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Say my name, Parker said, his name Calvin Washington, and
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You're changing the trash arguing.
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Ben.
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Can you get out the pictures.
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you don't even need ask to them. We're now that
di iPhone has that new feature? Are you kidding? Take
these people out?
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Hey, but you know what, Ben makes great chocolate chip cookies.
I mean really, Oh god, I took like four home.
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Hey.
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By the way, Alex, shout out to moms, you and
moms the pink joint. Br I don't know what that was. Mary, Yeah,
that was good. Shout out to uh to Patrick's mother.
Don't you dare put those next to each other?
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What are you doing? Don't do that? What are you doing?
You know that's my lady. Now, you know what, just
for that, you get the Rob Parker. You know what,
I'm not gonna wish you a merry Christmas. Hang up
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He is.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Yeah, Washington may be a trash talking Tuesday, even though
it felt like yesterday we was going at it. We
had a nice little Christmas Christmas lunch, Alex, we missed you.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I missed it. Traffic FaceTime, wash my hand, the hair
is flowing. Unbelievable, Eliza put the cameron.
Speaker 10 (03:46):
Alex, Elijah put on me, SUPERU. I have a bone
to pick with you. I mean, not a sponsor. You
o ex in my face again. Not only will you
not get to marry Christmas, you won't even get me
in that car.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Well wed and we missed you at lunch and we
went to our usual spot.
Speaker 6 (04:04):
Uh and uh, I think Kelvin passed out though, what
you what did you pass out there?
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Playlist for Christmas? Did you get your playlists? I'm sorry.
My favorite partner.
Speaker 11 (04:15):
Was the lunch was very racially charged, which was great.
Was it was for a minute, like half the conversation
was about being racially profile with the law enforcement.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Was great. Alex, you were lucky you missed out.
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Hey, since since the minority isn't here the minority on
this show, you guys.
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He's the token white guy. There you go.
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I'm we can tell him about him his people so funny.
That is like, we're like so opposite of radio. Yeah,
you know what I mean, You're so lucky. I would
have got shrimp to go.
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So there you go. Oh yeah, good point. We got
off easy. That's right, no meals to take uh so,
uh man, we got so much to do.
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Let me say, stress from work, money, the car, and family,
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Speaker 2 (05:41):
Course not on Christmas. Well Christmas, Elijah our social media
good you know what, I'm not gonna wish you a
merry Christmas.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
My goodness, gracious, yo, you gotta go tell that man
you're gonna wistle for merry Christmas.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Cause that was ridiculous. She was like, hey, baby, what's
wrong with you?
Speaker 9 (05:59):
You know?
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Down and out he was Christmas.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
I doubt he cares. He just always calls to get
under my skin.
Speaker 6 (06:07):
But anyway, talk about getting under somebody's skin, Rob Gee,
let's talk about Draymond Green and his stunny pulled last
night with the Warriors and.
Speaker 11 (06:15):
Steve Kerr shut up, Alex Yes, big hullabaloo up there
in the bay last night in a game that should
have been a positive because for the first time in
a hot second the Golden State Warriors got a good win.
Stephen Curry got went nuclear in the third quarter. They
end up don't be good team. They beat a playoff
Orlando Magic team by about twenty points going away.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
You took that right, say, we'll talk about later.
Speaker 11 (06:40):
But the big headline to come out of this game.
Early in the second half, during a timeout they were scuffling.
At that point, Steve Kerr and Draymond Green have a
little spat on the sideline. It culminates with Draymond Green
getting up and going to the locker room. He missed
about nine minutes of game at so he was in
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the back.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Of about fifteen or fifteen twenty minutes.
Speaker 11 (07:02):
So eventually comes back just before the start of the
fourth quarter, never takes off his warm ups, never gets
back into the game. Take a listen to both Steve
Kerr and Draymond after the game trying to explain away
what happened.
Speaker 8 (07:16):
We got into it obviously, and you know I took
the time out just because I thought we lost our
focus there a little bit and we had it out
a little bit, and you know, he made his decision
to go back to the locker room to cool off.
And that's all I'm going to say about it. It's everything.
Everything is private, and yeah, I got nothing further do.
Speaker 9 (07:36):
He didn't play the last twenty minutes. Would you have
gone back.
Speaker 8 (07:38):
To No, No, he wasn't. He wasn't going back yet.
Speaker 9 (07:40):
And was that a decision by him?
Speaker 8 (07:42):
Well, he left, he went back to the locker room.
Speaker 9 (07:45):
Tram on what happened? And why did you leave the bench?
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Timper spilled over, and.
Speaker 8 (07:53):
I just thought it was best that I got it.
Speaker 12 (07:55):
I don't think there was a situation where it was
going to get better, so it was just best to
remove myself.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
You know.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
That's it what caused the argument.
Speaker 12 (08:07):
Basketball, That's what we do. We played basketball. It's emotional game.
You know, people lose their emotions sometimes it happens. It
is what it is. You know, we've been at this
now for a long time. You know, sometimes you wait
people for a long time. There's a level of comfort
and happens we move forward.
Speaker 9 (08:29):
I mean, do you feel like this will linger at all.
Speaker 12 (08:32):
Now we move forward.
Speaker 6 (08:34):
You know what what, I'm glad he walked out on
Steve Kerr, and Steve Kerr deserves all of it, all
the smoke. He has created this monster in Draymond Green
and to have n't walked out on his teammates and
for it to be okay, and for I would have
told that, dude, you better not come back out here,
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even if you're in the game, you better stay there.
If you're going to walk away from your teammates when
you're trying to win a damn game.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
How dare Steve Kerr?
Speaker 6 (09:05):
Why does he continue to to coddle this guy?
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Steve curdle milk is what you should.
Speaker 6 (09:12):
Be called, because your methods of coaching is ridiculous. He
allowed him to suck a punch of guy, never even
gave him a suspension. Let Draymond talk about he walked
away from the team and there was no discipline, and
then they didn't want to suspend him because they wanted
to make sure he was there for the ring.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Ceremony so that he could get there.
Speaker 6 (09:32):
I would have said, you got suspended for ten games
and we're giving out the wings on opening night and
you won't get George that night.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
I don't understand it.
Speaker 6 (09:41):
How do the other players allow that, you're another player
on the team, You're gonna let this guy walk out?
Everybody has disagreement. You can't walk out on your teammates.
What kind of coach had Steve Kerr turned into to
allow this guy to do whatever he wants and then
come back Kelvin. Seriously, you play basketball, come back out
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for what you walked out on us.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
We're a team, went together, lose together. We can argue
you can't walk out. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 6 (10:18):
I don't understand Steve Kerr, but I'm glad Dre Mom
he's given you a ton of rope.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Use it make him look like the fool, because that's
what it looks like.
Speaker 6 (10:30):
Really, Steve Kerr has no control over the team.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
You can walk out, don't come back here, You.
Speaker 6 (10:37):
Don't come back and do you apologize to everybody on
this bench and this team and tell him it'll never
happen again. Come back out? Oh he wouldn't go back
in the game. And you know what tells you how
week Steve Kerr is you? What the reporter said, what
the reporter has them was that on yours.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
What I was when I heard that, I was like,
what hold on? What come? I would have went off
asked him that.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
But that shows, that shows the leeway and the articular
the excuses that have been built.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
All right, a couple of things.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
So you you touched on a lot of that, and
we disagree and argued all day yesterday starting off the
show here mostly agreeing on this. This has been something
that's been built up with this team for now ten fifteen, ten,
twelve years. They've allowed things with Draymond that have not
been allowed with any other teammate. And you just mentioned something,
you said, well, why would somebody else on the team
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should have been like, hey man, you can't be doing that.
That's the issue is that their best player, Steph is
not that kind of guy. So Draymond would have Draymond,
you get what I'm saying. If there was another Draymond,
Draymond would have Draymond greened it right then. But there's
nobody else who's built like that. And so Steve Kerr
has built and created where Draymond gets away with stuff
that nobody else could get with. Because if Draymond tried
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to get away with the stuff Draymond does, he would
have let him know, he would have check.
Speaker 6 (12:00):
I don't doubt for one second if Michael Jordan was
on that bench, you to grab him and said, where
are you going going?
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Where are you go?
Speaker 1 (12:07):
On opposite if you left, when you come back, No,
we're good, were good on you.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Get back.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
We don't need you. You didn't want to be a
part of this comeback, just win whatever. We don't need
you right now. So let me elaborate on a couple
other things. I think Steve Kerr is so much indoctrinated
with Phil Jackson's ideology and the way Phil Jackson coach.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Phil Jackson was so unique.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
He was telling Dennis Rodman, Hey, go blow steam off
in Vegas, and I think Steve Kerr adopted too much
of that. Where I know I got different personalities. I
gotta allow this guy to do that. I gotta let
this guy do that. I'm gonna give him leeway, I'm
gonna be hard on him, and I think he's trying
to do that too much. Draymond has been allowed to
do too much. From a league standpoint and from a
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warrior standpoint, you can't stop people in the chest. Punch
your own teammates, punch other people head like Rudy Gobert,
cuss people out, cuss Kevin Durant let out that so
much so that he leads a team like how much
more can the man get away with? And that's the
thing that blows me away, and Steve Kerr has to
have at a point where he puts his foot down
or that team who checks Draymond? Does anybody in the
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organization check Draymond? Does the bully ever get bullied? And
it reminds me of a scene in one of my
favorite movies, Rode to Perdition.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
No, don't anybody ever see Rode the Pradition.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
There's a scene where basically the head boss man his
son is just a terrible and competent gangster. Tom Hanks
is really the one who should be a son, but
he's not his biological son.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
The bad dude.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
The bad son goes off dustin wild stuff and even
hurts Tom Hanks's kids, shoot kills his family and everything.
And then basically Tom finally gets to him and he says, well,
why you let him do that? And he said, well,
ask my son, what do you want me to do?
And that's what Steve Currzy created where they look at
Draymond and go, well, I mean, that's our guy.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
What do you want us to do?
Speaker 1 (13:52):
No, somebody check him, because then he gets all philosophical
at the press conferences.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Oh man, well, just you know half, you're too old, Draymond.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
You've been doing this for too long, and at some
point you expect somebody from top down the Warriors to
check him, and it never happened.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
I just can't believe.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
I can't believe that somebody's supposed to have been punched the bully.
I'm talking in the NBA as a whole, we've said
that all somebody was supposed to have been chin checked him.
Somebody gets away with so much throughout this league, from
a league standpoint to the team organizationally within his own
locker room, checking his coach, and again guys get into
a coach and get into a place. Everybody's saying that
you can't just walk away because everybody said Draymond said this,
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We didn't air this part. He said, I walked away
so that it wouldn't get worse, like what you're gonna punch.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Steve Right, unbelievable, all right?
Speaker 6 (14:40):
Eight seven, seven ninety nine, on Fox eight seven, seven
nine nine, six sixty three sixty nine. How much blame
does Steve Kerr get for creating this Draymond Green Monster.
You've heard of the Green Monster in Boston. This is
the Draymond Green Monster in the Bay Area. Eight seven,
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eight seven seven ninety nine On Fox, Who's the blame?
Is Steve curta blame? Maybe you say he's just flat
out one hundred percent of Draymond for Draymond's antics. If
you didn't see he walked off the bench last night,
didn't play the rest of the second half. Who's the blame?
Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox. Who we got
all right, let's start with Ryan in California. You're in
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the odd couple Fox s Portrado. Yeah, what's up?
Speaker 8 (16:53):
Ryan?
Speaker 2 (16:53):
How are you?
Speaker 14 (16:54):
I'm doing fun? How you how you boys doing?
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Excellent?
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Man?
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Merry Christmas? Right, that's all good.
Speaker 14 (17:00):
Sarry Christmas to you too. A lot of blame to
go around with this one, honestly. Yeah, Dreamond deserves to
get any and all he ever brings on himself. So
Steve Kerr should absolutely have some assault here. But the
one voice that's not being talked to her right now
is Steph Curry's, like, I don't understand why we aren't
saying that he needs to step up.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
I don't know if you mentioned I don't know if
you heard me mention it.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
I said, Steph, I said, Steph, he needs to go, Yeah, Steph.
For him to be the leader of this team for
so long, he's got to do the uncomfortable conversation.
Speaker 6 (17:29):
And he's not going to do that wearing those comfortable
nurses shoes.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
That's the problem, guyse of Permanenta too, exactly. At some point, though, Rob,
you have to have the uncomfortable conversation, as I know
it hurts as weird.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
It's not my nature.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
But and I'm sure he shoots a text message here
and there, but I'm saying, you got to confront the
monster in front of everybody.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Easily said to dre Mond when he just please end up?
Were good? Go back.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Hey, we didn't need you tonight. Bro here, you left
us out here, We bunkered in. This is us, right,
here's us coming back in the game. We'll talk to
you tomorrow exactly. Go ahead right to take a shower.
This is us and that will be fair. And you
know what Draymond wiver. He would understand that later that night.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
And you don't even do that, is Steph Curry.
Speaker 11 (18:08):
And if you watch the post game, he even said
to the reporters, I understand why you guys are asking
some of these questions, but I feel like it's going
too negative. It should be a positive out here.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
No, no, not, my brother in Christ. Do you not
know what just happened? I mean, come on, like that
old nation, the idea that like is negative.
Speaker 6 (18:24):
Now your teammate walked off on you do what you think?
Speaker 2 (18:29):
What are we watching? Made up? Come on scenario? I mean,
that's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
That's what these same teammate who has a history of
doing these types of things, don't.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
That is what I give me. Always get mad we
talked about me, and stop breaking like it's us right.
Speaker 6 (18:42):
We wouldn't be asking about this if Draymond didn't walk
off from the team.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
And he didn't go throw up or use the restroom.
Speaker 8 (18:48):
Right.
Speaker 7 (18:48):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (18:48):
The only reason you could ever walk away from a
team like that diarrhea has to be.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
That's what I'm saying, Like something like that happens, okay, right.
Didn't everybody understand the audio?
Speaker 6 (18:59):
Oh no, I once was live audio rock to a
men's bathroom sound like they were.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Rob No, you can walk in here sounding.
Speaker 10 (19:12):
I'll just tell you this. I received Rob Parker's car
out of seventy eight. We know it's going down, all right,
bear cheek, all right, here we go.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Drew Drew in New Jersey, going Draymond on it, Drew
in New Jersey. You're in the odd couple of weeks
towards radio.
Speaker 8 (19:26):
What's up, Drew?
Speaker 15 (19:27):
Hey, God, I don't blame Steve Kerr. I blame the
NBA owners. I just feel like they've panned in to
this guy since he's been in the league. I mean
simple things like they I think the only sport that
got rid of the word owner and replaced it with governor.
I think that's pandering. I think every action that he's
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done has been pandering. And why are you surprised or
when he walks off the floor for the one time
someone tells him now, someone's always told him.
Speaker 6 (19:58):
Yes, yeah, but wait boy, wait minute, Steve Kerr runs
the team and and I'm not going to just say
it's just Steve Kerr is the coach. My god, Steve
Kerr played on one of the all time great teams.
Steve Kerr was a really good player, not a great player,
really good play, got some respect right in the league.
He made big shots, all that kind of stuff. Dude,
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it's the end of the world. You can't face Draymond Green. Really,
you're Steve Kerr. You're afraid of Draymond Green. I don't
get it. People are so afraid to face people and
say something to him when they're out of line. You're
the coach eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox Mark
in Sacramento.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
You're in the couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Mark,
what's going on?
Speaker 7 (20:46):
Gentlemen?
Speaker 16 (20:47):
Mister Washington, Rob all you guys have a happy happy holidays,
Mary Christmas and all that good.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Appreciate you. You know what, I'm not gonna wish you a
merry Christmas. Hang you up the Oh my.
Speaker 16 (20:58):
God, God, real quick on this one. Here's all right,
look at it, mister Washington.
Speaker 7 (21:04):
I'm with you.
Speaker 16 (21:05):
Uh, Steve Kerr go to state organization. The NBA has
allowed Draymond Green to get to this way. They should
have hammered him a long time ago about behavior, all
kinds of behavior. Things he's said, things he's done, especially
what he's done on the court. So I said, now
it's to the point, well he can't stop it. Now
there's two there's two people who can stop the referees
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start calling stuff and kick him out of games, which
they seem to be hesitant to. Well, in the end,
you know who's gonna stop it. He's gonna get dirty
and some players are gonna be gonna have a Kermit
Washington the moment on him and break his jaw because
they won't stop it. I don't want that to happen,
but this is out of control. Let somebody go this long.
Somebody's gonna stop it. Sooner or later, it's gonna be
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a referee by kicking him out these games an important games,
or it's gonna be a player. And if it was
a coach, I thought of an old school coach. If
that was Jerry Sloan, badass, Jerry Sloan, he would have followed.
Speaker 7 (22:00):
And drag his ass right back off of that bench.
Speaker 16 (22:02):
And if you had a teammate like Garry Bird, Larry
Bird would raise his state for doing that.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Yeah, And that's what that's what's and that's what's missing.
We appreciate the call, Mary, Christmas Mark to you and
the fam. Happy holidays. That's what's missing, is the whole
nine is Steph your best player. Ain't gonna say that,
and Steph coach Harley ever says anything. That's the issue.
He's been getting away with it for so long. All right,
appreciate it. On the way, we got Eve Salam. We'll
talk to NFL headlines with him right now. Steven Seger
getting you set on what's trending.
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E from Salimo X. What I mean?
Speaker 7 (23:06):
What's happening? Brothers? How y'all doing?
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Hodays Man?
Speaker 6 (23:09):
Before we get to the football, just the Draymond Green
you will talk about it. Steve Kurrz created this Green
Monster because I just eat from I don't get it.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
I don't get nobody.
Speaker 6 (23:21):
None of his teammates step up to him, sucker punching teammates,
walking out on the team. They allow him to come
back and sit on the bench. I'd have been like, dude,
take a shower and go home.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Not tonight, bro, We good on you tonight. Like what
am I missing?
Speaker 7 (23:36):
What happens is when you let bad behavior go unpunished.
This is what it manifested itself and too from Antonio Brown.
Remember he was the best receiver in the NFL. Remember that.
I mean, supreme talent, couldn't stop him, couldn't guard him,
catch everything, do everything you want, the art receiving like
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it was nothing. And then it became about him, became
his show. It no longer became about the team and
in them winning. It just became about me. And Draymond
is the ultimate team player he was, and now it's
a situation where he can't even control himself because the
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behavior has gone on checked for so long, essentially his
whole career. You can't put brake pads on it now,
it's already speeding downhill. They got four championships. Will we
eve going to discipline him now? I mean he thunder
punched Jordan Poole's head off, and you know what, and
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if someone didn't leak that, we would have never known.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
And they never suspended him.
Speaker 6 (24:48):
He remember he said, oh no, I took a lead
from the team and Ephraim he came back so we
could get his ring on ring night.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
So I'm like what.
Speaker 7 (25:00):
That? That? Uh? That it? So when you see it, remember
last year he made Steph Curry cry in the game.
Remember the first ye Remember the first two minutes of
the game, in the must win game, coming down the stretch,
Steph was trying to tell him to stop. Steve was
trying to tell him to stop. He did. Steph was
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literally crying because Draymond can't control himself. Got kicked out
of that game. They lose that game. Like when it
when when your behavior starts affecting winning and losing. It's time, man,
It's time. When they beat them when they won that
championship against the Celtics a couple of years ago, they
should have keep it Steph and everything else. We build
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them a round stuff. Everybody else got to go.
Speaker 6 (25:46):
No doubt. I want to say this. I'm glad the
Cols didn't make the playoffs. I'm glad that Philip Rivers
were wasn't able to win a game for them, for real,
because I just thought it was ridiculous that.
Speaker 7 (25:58):
He played well.
Speaker 6 (25:59):
The crony is yeah, but the bottom line is you
brought him in to win, and now the other kid
could have lost these two games too. That's all I'm
gonna say. If you win, then you got an argument,
you know what I mean? Like that then you got
an argument, and you're right.
Speaker 7 (26:11):
You're right. There are no consolation prizes.
Speaker 6 (26:14):
You did this to win, and you thought he gave
you the best chance to win, and you lost both games.
Should have won the Seattle game where you hold them
the field goals right, no touchdowns, and you don't win
that game. But anyway, where do you go. I don't
think he should play anymore. They're out of it right there,
out of the playoffs. Get this other kid, the backup guy,
and let him get some snaps. Are you wasting snaps
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on Philip Rivers going forward?
Speaker 7 (26:40):
It all depends on that they want to have him
back next year. Oh god, now this is real. So listen.
If they're if they like Daniel Jones right, if they're
comfortable with Daniel Jones and he's shown them enough to
where they're willing to make him their starting quarterback, then
you'd need a stop gap until he's back healthy. And
if you feel that Philip Rivers is that guy, then
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you let him finish playing out the last two weeks
of the season, and then you allow him to get
his body in a different shape than than Oval, and
and then you you bring him in and until Daniel
Jones is back up and ready to go. I mean
that would be for me, that would make the most sense.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
He looks horrible in the NFL uniform.
Speaker 7 (27:27):
Okay, his body is right now, is made of nothing
but skin and just just flesh and fat right now.
But you know, if he's been coaching high school football,
eating drinking coffee and eating bear claws, right, if you
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do bring him back, then he'll he'll get himself in
somewhat condition and I don't know what shape he'll be in,
but he'll be at least he being conditioned, and that'll
be a good stop gap to to uh, you know,
at least help you until Daniel Jones can come back.
If and then that's all about if Daniel Jones is
your guy, if you think he's your guy, moving forward.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Ivra salam our guests, I want to go to a
team that pays me to have this conversation.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Rob was right.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
The Lions are I mean six percent chance whatever it is,
they're not going to make the playoffs. But what you
said it before the seed this thought he did, even
though we talked to him about it. We argue a
million times. Let me ask you this bird's eye view
with this team. Do you look at it as injuries?
Do you look at it as Dan Campbell? Do you
look at it as offensive defensive coordinator? They needed just
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to some time to adjust. How do you go about
this offseason and next season? Are you optimistic like, hey,
as long as we're healthy, good or are you feeling pessimistic
next season?
Speaker 7 (28:43):
Well, I've said this and I've been you know, I
appreciate and I know what Dan Campbell has meant to
the culture of the Detroit Lions. He literally changed the
Detroit Lions into a contender and him for that. But
like most owners or most people who own companies who
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bring a CEO in, the first thing you have to
do is change the culture if they're underperforming. Right, So
when you change the culture, most business owners they understand
that changing the culture is one thing and then leveling
up raising the culture is a different thing.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
So his job might be done here is what you're saying.
Speaker 7 (29:34):
So what I'm saying is Dan Campbell changed the culture.
Now they need to raise and elevate the culture, and
that may be a different coach. And it's funny we
were talking about the Warriors, because that's exactly what that
group that bought the Warriors did they brought up? They
had Mark Jacks right who changed that culture. Those kids
were playing defense the whole nine A step that's young
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Steph played dre and base. So he got him to
a certain point and they needed a coach to come
in to elevate the coach.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Christ did the same thing.
Speaker 6 (30:07):
Pistons did the same thing with Rick Carlisle, a young
Rick Carlos, and they went and got Larry Brown and
they won a championship the next year, the next year.
Speaker 7 (30:17):
This is how it goes. And I look, I like
Dan Campbell. I like what he've done, but some of
the coaching decisions he's made, and that we're going forward,
we're tough and all that. Hey man, he toughed himself
out of a super Bowl two years ago. What were
we talking about?
Speaker 2 (30:30):
No doubt?
Speaker 6 (30:31):
Let me let's go here. One more thing from just
Caleb Williams. You know, I'm a believer. I even made
a song about him. Yes, yea and all that, But
I that throw the comeback, You're down by ten with
two h five to go, You know what I mean,
that's an incredible win against your division rival.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
They couldn't beat the Packers for whatever reason.
Speaker 6 (30:54):
Uh, you saw the people jumping around at chicag Have
you seen all these videos for people?
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Will Bond talked about it like this is the greatest
He said, that was the greatest thing if you take
out twenty three Jordans, the greatest thing in Chicago for
a very long time.
Speaker 7 (31:09):
Because Chicago Bears have never had an elite quarter wow,
which is crazy. They've never had an elite quarterback. They've
won super Bowls, they've done well, they've never had They've
never gotten that position. Correct. I love Jim McMahon, but
Jim McMahon was more character than than elite quarterback, right,
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And so they are on the cusp of finding that
they now possibly have their quarterback who is beyond talented
and can make any throw for the next fifteen twenty
years in Caleb Williams, if he continues to grow and
get better, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
It's only a second year. So he and this it
is associated with Ben Johnson.
Speaker 7 (31:51):
I agree, and look and they are they're buying for
the number one seed. I mean, you can't how can
you argue with that? Celebrate throw snowballs at each other.
All of that.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
That's we But there's so many videos.
Speaker 6 (32:05):
There was one I saw where the police would call
to this person's house and they have to ring and
the answering the door of the cops and he says, uh,
we have we got a call about a disturbance. He goes,
I'm sorry. We're Chicago Bears fans and cale just to
a game winning touchdown and we'll keep it down.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
They had gone, bro, and.
Speaker 6 (32:26):
They who weren't football fans and know what's going on,
was like just screaming and yelling going on next door.
Speaker 7 (32:32):
Yeah, like, I mean, look, enjoy it. Man. This is
what as a fan, This is what you want, right,
You want to be able to say, oh my god,
we solve the riddle. Just imagine what the Cleveland Browns
fans are going are going to think when they finally
get a quarterback or someone that they feel that they
can build around the next ten to fifteen years. Imagine
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how they're celebrating. So Chicago's right right along with that,
they've founded guy Ben Jonson is a tremendous coach, could
be on the short list of Coach of the Year.
And I think I think, uh, this is something that
they've solved. Now they can go address the other thing.
That's how you get better as a team once you
Once you solve the problem, you move to the next one.
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They keep having to solve the quarterback problem, but they
can never move to the next problem.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
All right, for man, we gotta cut it there. Appreciate
you as always, Brother Chris.
Speaker 7 (33:26):
Happy holidays, Brothers, Happy Holidays. On a quantica you guys,
enjoy yourself, Man, Rob, stay out the streets.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Man A right, I'm gonna do that. Christmas. You know what,
I'm not gonna wish you a merry Christmas.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Hang up, all right, I appreciate you, no doubt. All right,
on the way Shako City player today. Plus we got
some gifts to Christmas. We're doing next Questions Radio. I
hope it's a pizza.
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Speaker 6 (34:54):
Two and one last night ninety seven and ninety Here
we go for tonight. I got Minnesota my minus seven
and a half taking on the Knicks.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
That's the best bet.
Speaker 6 (35:04):
Thunder minus six and a half, thuring San Antonio, take
it on the Spurs. Now they got the Suns minus
three and a half hosting the Lakers without Luca again,
Suns minus three and a half, Thunder minus six and
a half and Minnesota minus seven and a half.
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to bet on. I'm telling you who I bet on.
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Speaker 2 (35:56):
All right, it's time for our whoa ball? Give you?
What's up? Alex? How are you merry? Christmas?
Speaker 8 (36:04):
My man?
Speaker 7 (36:05):
Go here?
Speaker 6 (36:06):
Ron?
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Thank you? Who did Rob? Thank you? Christmas?
Speaker 7 (36:12):
My man?
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Rob G? Where are your Christmas? Elijah? Come on over here,
rob G? There we go, all swapping out media. All right,
hold on uh this Alex?
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Yes and Elijah?
Speaker 2 (36:33):
All right, my man? Thank you brother you.
Speaker 6 (36:38):
That's right, thank you, appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Let me see that. That might be the best odd
couple one. I think let me see what I got
first before we get to talking. But you think let
me see yours.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Ah, yeah, you got me. Yeah, it's done. This is
fly shout out to everybody right now. Looking at YouTube.
That's why you need to be on YouTube. You can
see it.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Look at that. No, this is this is sweet. Rob.
Thank you very much, my brother. Thanks, You're welcome. You
all good. Small You know I can't fish with it.
I got you a medium.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Hey all right, quick, look at your cause I want
the hat. The hats. The hats are each one of y'all.
It makes sense hurry up. You ain't got a minute
left on the show. Yeah, so you know why, Okay,
I'll take that, you know, because you don't Homie, Yeah,
you the goat, and because you're black, we got the
black Cat.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
And of course I got the Mercedes. No, I gotta
get a Mercedes. I'm not saying you have one or not.
I'm just saying. And then and then each of you
got the you better run in there, dude. Yeah, we
gotta time. We got about forty thirty five forty seconds.
Speaker 7 (37:49):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
And then yeah, and there's some other stuff like that
you were traveling all the time that go with that,
and the Super Bowl. You have the Super Bowl saying
what you always trying to nice, Thank you, thank you,
my guy. May Christmas love you got yes, all the
best of you, and the Fams appreciate I'm gonna where
this rob with the people out in the streets.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
That's right, we appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
Uh yeah, shoot, but Mary Christmas is all I know.
We got a hold still resting two hours of the show.
But just Mary Christmas, everybody else shooting. We had our
card in here.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
We had a lunch first today.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Even though I yell at you, you're the best co
host I've ever had.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Where would I be without you? I Love you. In
the Washington Monday Christmas, What do you read You're getting
on me