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Chris Broussard and Rob Parker debate: if the 49ers were to win the Super Bowl this Sunday, would it push Brock Purdy into the elite tier of NFL quarterbacks? Merrill Hodge joins the show to talk the future of youth football in America. Plus, Shekel City!

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Speaker 5 (01:20):
What's happening? Mister Chris Broussard, how are you?

Speaker 3 (01:23):
I'm doing well? The voice your little horse.

Speaker 6 (01:26):
Yeah, I was out at a couple of parties last
night and a yeah, I shouldn't go in at the parties, no,
you know what I mean, just having a dialogue in
the conversation, so everybody was asking about you. Of course
I was at the Collins party, the Colin cow heard
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so I was there. Then I went to Shannon's party,
Shannon Sharp and that was.

Speaker 5 (01:54):
Cool too, and Jenny Taff was.

Speaker 6 (01:59):
There Chris as well, so I got to hang out
with n Town. It's great to see her and Shannon
and catch hold everybody. Ilse said hello, absolutely absolutely, so
it was good. I would say if I'm waiting it.
Colin had the best food, and Shannon's party had the
best ambiance.

Speaker 5 (02:17):
And A listers Okay, okay, good time.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
No sounds good? All right, Well, speaking of a listers,
Merril Hodge rib former running back in the NFL, now
in NFL an List. He'll be at the bottom of
this hour. And also the real A listers, the Odd
Couple crew, the super producer Rob g on the camera
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and of course DJ Alex Tysher aka Alex the Vegan
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man Steve the Seger and Elijah Sibuna and Saga put
tell on this social media. All right, rob, let's open
up with a super Bowl topic and a lot. We

(03:08):
talked a good amount yesterday about Patrick Mahomes and whether
or not you know he's better to compare him to
Joe Montana obviously his chase of Tom Brady and all
of that stuff. But let's look at Brock Purdy right now,
and he really has become, as far as opinions at

(03:31):
least of him, one of the more polarizing figures in
the National Football League. There are those that are comparing
him to Joe Montana and you know, great players. I've
compared him to Drew Brees or said, you know, he
reminds me of Drew Brees and one day, could you know,

(03:53):
we'll see if he could get to that level. And
then there are those that have said he's just, in
a negative sense, a game manager, a system quarterback. Put
any competent quarterback in San Francisco with Kyle Shanahan and
the Boys, you know, Christian McCaffrey and Deebo saying you

(04:14):
Samuel Brandon, Ayuk, George Kittle, on and on, and they
could do essentially what Perty's doing. So what I want
to ask is this, Rob If Rock Party goes out
on Sunday and beats Patrick mahone, you know, wins the game,

(04:35):
does that in your eyes make him elite? And how
do you think that will affect public opinion of him?

Speaker 6 (04:42):
No, Elite is not about a moment of season. It's
about being able to do it on a consistent basis.

Speaker 5 (04:50):
Chris, before you just reach elite status.

Speaker 6 (04:54):
Now, if you told me, I don't know if through
nine touchdowns and that was perfect, you know, or something
like that, that's some off the charts performance that we've
never seen. Maybe I'll revisit it. But if he plays
well and has two touchdowns and no picks and the

(05:14):
reason they won was because Patrick Mahomes threw three picks,
you know what I mean, and he just had a
pedestrian dat, does that make him a lead? No, that
doesn't make him a lead. I think the lead is
more about consistency. Let me see being involved. Maybe in

(05:36):
the MVP conversation he is, No, but year after year,
not just one year. To me, that doesn't qualify, not
one year. Because if he has an off year, he
can have an offer you this year. Some people thought
you remember we talked about it justin Herbert. They put
him ahead of Patrick Mahomes going into last season, right

(05:58):
remember that.

Speaker 5 (05:59):
We're like, yeah, like that would that would to me,
that was premature, Chris.

Speaker 6 (06:03):
That wasn't based off anything other than they like what
he looks like as far as quarterback size, arm strength, talent.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
But he hasn't been an elite quarterback.

Speaker 6 (06:14):
Not not to not to do that and that, And
that's all I'm saying is that it takes more, uh,
and it takes some longevity, and it takes some consistency
for people to put you in that ILK because I
don't think you're that many elite quarterbacks.

Speaker 5 (06:29):
I don't.

Speaker 6 (06:30):
There are a lot of good ones, but there are.
There aren't ten elite quarterbacks.

Speaker 5 (06:34):
It's just not the case.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
I tend to agree with you. I think the only
elite quarterbacks right now Mahomes I believe is on at
level by himself, but also as elite. I would say
Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson and Joe Burrow, you know, assuming
Burrows healthy, those are the elite quarterbacks in the league.

(06:59):
As far as I'm concerned, and I think Rob five
through twelve, it shifts. It shifts throughout the year and
over the years, like a lot of people would have
had Jalen Hurts at number five, if not higher than Lamar.

Speaker 6 (07:18):
But this past year it doesn't feel the same. It
doesn't feel the same and the same thing. I think
for six weeks during the season, Chris, you know you've
talked before, we've about Dak.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
He's on his way in route to elite. He had
a great year.

Speaker 6 (07:35):
But but but I just it just hasn't been consistent
enough for people to really look at Dak and go
he's just an elite quarterback and he's one of the
top five quarterbacks in the league.

Speaker 5 (07:44):
I don't do you can say that about that.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
This year he played like a top five quarterback. But
you're right, you wouldn't classify him as elite, especially after
what happened in the playoffs. And I think Rob, had
Dak had a nice play for us, would have felt like,
let's see a little more.

Speaker 5 (08:03):
I wouldn't want to see a second seaton.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
Maybe one more great year like this right Like I'll
get CJ. Stroud. He looks like he's going to be
elite but let's see him do it next year. He
comes back, next year Rob does essentially the same thing,
maybe even better. Then then you'll start viewing him as elite.
So I agree with you on Party. I think party.

(08:26):
In my view, Rob, I think he is in assuming
he doesn't go out there. The one thing he can't do,
Like if he doesn't win the game and beat Patrick
Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs, there's no shame in that.
Nobody's going to kill him for losing the Chiefs and Mahomes.
But if he goes out there and plays like he

(08:47):
did against Baltimore four picks, he's the reason they lose
the game. That's the one thing he can't do. He
can have a mediocre game and they just don't win.
He doesn't play great, but he can't go out there
and what the bed And I think Rob, if he

(09:09):
I think he is one of those guys that could
be in roots to becoming elite. Drew Breeze became in Lead,
wasn't elite in San Diego, then went to New Orleans
and the rest is history. Tom Brady. Rob Even after
Brady won three Super Bowls, people didn't consider him elite

(09:31):
here's dude as a game manager until he got Randy
Moss in O seven and started, you know, having incredible statistics.
So he grew into being elite. Joe Montana, to some degree,
grew into being the leite. He was behind Steve de
Berg for the first year and a half of his career.
So I think Brady could be in route to maybe

(09:53):
growing into be an elite. The one thing that would
potentially change my mind, and you throw it out but
with some outlandish numbers, and I'm not saying that as
an insult, but if he were to go out rob
and let's say, throw four touchdowns three hundred and eleven
yards and it's just cool, Yeah, party perty and it's

(10:15):
just picking the Chiefs apart and he's the reason they
win that game, that would make me wonder what he
might be there already, because that would be that's not
just doing it in a big moment. He's had a
great season. He's had a great season. He's had some
moments in the playoffs, and he's great drives. But if

(10:37):
he were to go out there on the biggest stage
and light it up, that would make you think. The
cautionary tale would be Nick Foles right right, because Nick
Foles had a great second season and then later on
had the great run when he replaced Carson Wentzon was good,

(10:58):
was great in the.

Speaker 5 (10:58):
Playoffs, and then they gave him as own team and
he did he.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
Always does right right, And that's one thing you could
say about Perty that hey, he had you know he
could handle the expectations, because that's that, to me, was
the problem with Foles. Rob He just whenever you expected
it from him, he just didn't deliver. And it was
some type of mental block maybe there. But okay, let's
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Speaker 6 (14:42):
So here we go, Chris, Let's do it. Victor in Mississippi.
You're on the I couple Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Victor?

Speaker 8 (14:51):
How could he be elite? Winning the Super Bowl?

Speaker 9 (14:55):
What would he have to do?

Speaker 5 (14:58):
What was your question?

Speaker 7 (15:00):
What did you say?

Speaker 3 (15:01):
Did you ask us a question?

Speaker 4 (15:02):
What in your opinion? Because you guys are the professionals,
and I love you guys, love the show.

Speaker 9 (15:09):
What would he have to do to?

Speaker 5 (15:12):
Nothing for me? Nothing for me?

Speaker 3 (15:16):
For me, I mean for me to I don't even
know if this would make me feel that way. But
he would have to have a tremendous game, three four touchdowns,
three hundred some midd yards and be the reason they
won a game. The game just pick not a game.
He's been that, but the game picked him apart, kind
of like he did against Dallas or Philadelphia. If he

(15:37):
does that in the Super Bowl against the Chiefs defense
that has been really good, not only the whole season
but especially in the playoffs, then that would make me
look twice and say, you know what, maybe I need
to reconsider. If he's already elite, I think he could
become that in the future. But a game like that
might make me say he already is there?

Speaker 1 (15:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (15:59):
What would you saying? Answer?

Speaker 6 (16:01):
Oh, go ahead, Robert, Yeah, No, mine is just like consistency.
It would just take time for me to get there. Uh,
he could have an outstand unless it's like historic, Chris.
It would have to be historic for me to even
consider that.

Speaker 5 (16:14):
That's all.

Speaker 6 (16:15):
Thanks for the call, appreciate you. Uh, let's go to
kJ in Louisiana. You're in the odd couple of Fox
Sports Radio.

Speaker 5 (16:23):
What's up?

Speaker 7 (16:23):
kJ?

Speaker 9 (16:24):
Hey, what's going on?

Speaker 10 (16:25):
Man?

Speaker 9 (16:26):
Love y'all show. I am a Niner fan, so I'm
from from Empire, Red River, Nina Empire, and so I
believe I kind of hate these conversations about giving him
that crown too soon, only his second year, so he
has the potential to get there, but you know, you
can't put him in the class of an elite. And

(16:47):
then what what are y'all using as the criteria? There
is no definite criteria because it moves from season to
season to add him to that category, you're right about
You're right about that.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
Everybody's in the doesn't move with my homes and Allen.
At this point, they've established themselves as elite, like Rob said,
they've been consistent, consistent. Right, he hasn't really even had
an opportunity to be consistent. He's been consistent for his
brief time.

Speaker 9 (17:16):
But you throw you throw a Dack and a Lamar
out there.

Speaker 4 (17:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (17:19):
True, you got one m.

Speaker 3 (17:20):
V an elite regular smart Lamar went.

Speaker 6 (17:26):
Lamar wins seventy of his games and no, no, but
he hasn't been elite in the playoffs. No, but we're
talking about when you start to look at somebody and
his body of work.

Speaker 5 (17:37):
And now we already said that you're gonna.

Speaker 7 (17:39):
Have two of dollar.

Speaker 5 (17:39):
You got two m v P Right, I mean that
that that's that's major. That that's major. All right, KK,
we appreciate you. Thank you.

Speaker 6 (17:47):
Uh Mason in Washington, you're on the odd couple of
Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 5 (17:52):
What's up, Mason?

Speaker 8 (17:54):
Hey, fellas, I'm with Rob. I don't think him winning
this bow woman to make him. I don't think he'll
ever be considered the league. As long as he's got
dudes at every position group, they're expected to win. So
when he when he does win, it's like they should
have win. It been favored in every single game.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
So hold on, if he does this and I'm not
even saying win the Super Let's say over for the
next Let's say they win this Super Bowl. Then the
next two years he plays as well as he did
this season, or maybe even a little better. But they
don't win the Super Bowl. They go to the conference championship, lose,
they go to a Super Bowl loose. You know that

(18:31):
type of thing. You don't think at that point he'd
be considered elite if if he gives you three years
of elite level play, which he.

Speaker 8 (18:39):
Has with these guys, not with these guys He's Mahons had.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
Travis hold On, Mahomes had Travis Kelcey, Tyreek Hill, Andy
Reid as his coach, and joined the team that was
already eleven and five when he took over. So I'm
just saying, like, why, like great teammates should not punish you.
Montana had Rice, Steve Young had Rice, and taroll Owens

(19:05):
not to mention Roger Craig and some like what quarterback
hasn't had elite Many haven't not Many who are elite
haven't had elite talent for their Super Bowl wins.

Speaker 8 (19:17):
You have a player, and you're right, it's not fair,
but that's the way I see it. That's that's the
way most of the guys I see it.

Speaker 3 (19:23):
Well, y'all need to reconsider.

Speaker 6 (19:25):
Yeah, I mean, it's just it's just it's it's who
Rock Party is, and it's going to stick with him,
Chris until people finally say, I can't push back anymore.

Speaker 5 (19:36):
There's too much evidence like this.

Speaker 3 (19:38):
And I get the patient approach. I'm just saying, if
he gives us three two, three more years of this, Rob,
I mean, what do we You know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (19:45):
No, I hasn't.

Speaker 6 (19:46):
I know what you're saying, but I'm saying, there's so
many people out there. Thanks Mason. Appreciated.

Speaker 5 (19:51):
Alex in Phoenix, you're on they couple of Fox Sports Radio.
What's up, Alex?

Speaker 4 (19:56):
What's up? Guys? Yeah, boiler alert. You have to have
good players to win super Bowls?

Speaker 7 (20:00):
Uh right?

Speaker 11 (20:01):
Right?

Speaker 4 (20:01):
When you look when you look at the last what
twenty five years, eight quarterbacks have won Super Bowls. So,
I mean, like, when when you get to this elite conversation,
all he's done is done what he was asked to
do of until this point, I've got an interesting comp
for him, not play style, nothing like that. He's in
this like Big Ben groove where he came. He went

(20:21):
to a great setup. Big Ben had drum bennets and
the best defense in the NFL. He completed like twelve
passes his first Super Bowl win, and people see him
as a leader, and he's a prob. He's a Hall
of Famer. That's kind of where you are with perty
because he doesn't do anything special, but he doesn't do
anything poorly. And when you need a third and eight conversion,
that's elite to extend the drive to win or to

(20:42):
assault the game away so the other team doesn't get
the ball.

Speaker 5 (20:44):
I don't. I don't think that that's the definition of
elite either. I don't.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
I think did you wonder big Ben elite?

Speaker 10 (20:51):
Rock?

Speaker 3 (20:53):
I mean he's gonna be a Hall of Fame? No,
I know, no, Wow, I do think big Ben was?

Speaker 5 (20:59):
Yeah, I'd say no.

Speaker 3 (21:00):
And he wasn't spectacular. He wasn't in and that's what
some of the other Hall of famers.

Speaker 5 (21:06):
But I mean, I don't even know big Ben has
how many m vps. I don't even know. Did he win.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
I don't know if he has any. I don't think
he has any.

Speaker 5 (21:15):
That's what I'm saying to you, Chris that's why.

Speaker 6 (21:17):
Yeah, I mean, I'm not saying I'm just saying that
that's a part of the when you talk about you.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
I think they're probably levels of elite. No, but he
would be on that lower level for sure.

Speaker 5 (21:29):
But you give me.

Speaker 6 (21:30):
I'm just saying, like when you thank you for the call,
when you have those kind of players, we gotta one more.

Speaker 7 (21:35):
Robert.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
Okay, all right, the couple of Chris or Rob, thank
you for the call. Some good ones there, Merril Hodges
around the corner. But first Steve the Sega with the update.

Speaker 10 (21:44):
Steve, Steve, Hello, gentlemen, were doing well better than your voice.

Speaker 6 (21:48):
I think.

Speaker 10 (21:49):
Thanks, I'm going to work on there, and yeah, come
through it. And figures you gonna go to Vegas to
do a radio show, some busy party and you barely
do the radio show. Sorry about that show, No, I
know what you mean, Like, you know it's loud at parties.

Speaker 5 (22:06):
You tell you know you're talking.

Speaker 10 (22:07):
I know exactly right you're talking about it.

Speaker 6 (22:09):
And I have one of those voices, Chus, you've had
that happen to you right when you get out at TV.

Speaker 3 (22:15):
It was yeah, it starts to Kyt on our show.
I missed the show because of it.

Speaker 5 (22:19):
Yeah, yeah, Well.

Speaker 10 (22:20):
The NFL Honors ceremonies later tonight in Vegas, about an
hour and a half away. Finalists for the NFL Awards
include for MVP, Lamar Jackson and Christian McCaffrey. Up for
Defensive Player of the Year, Miles Garrett, T. J. Watt
and others. Among the five finalists for Offensive Rookie of
the Year, Poka Nakua and c J. Stroud for Defensive
Rookie of the Year, Houston's Will Anderson and Philadelphia's Jalen

(22:42):
Carter among others.

Speaker 7 (22:44):
As for the.

Speaker 10 (22:44):
NBA Games, Golden State, with a record of twenty three
and twenty five, is underway and leading first quarter at
the Pacers twenty five to twenty two. Meanwhile, it's late
first quarter at Orlando and it's just fourteen ten magic
over the San Antonio Errors, who enter with five straight
losses and a ten and forty one record, And the

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New York Knicks are hosting Dallas. It starts in a
few minutes, but for the next Jalen Brunson out with
a springed ankle. Og Onnobi had elbow surgery. Among the
Lake games, Lakers are hosting Denver at ten pm Eastern time.
The Lakers today unveiled to Kobe Bryant's statue. The NBA
trade deadline was today. Dallas acquired PJ. Washington from Charlotte.

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Oklahoma City acquired Gordon Hayward for three players. Philadelphia picked
up Buddy Healed from the Pacers for two players and
three second rounders. Brooklyn got Dennis Shrewder from Toronto for
Spencer Dinwiddie, who was then waived. The Raptors acquired Kelly
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Milwaukee acquired Patrick Beverly from Philadelphia for Cameron Payne and

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a second rounder. And officially the league has given out
the list for All Star Saturday Night competitors. They include
Damian Lillard defending Champ back in the three point Contest,
along with Jalen Brunson, Tyree Halliburton, Trey Young and others.

Speaker 3 (24:01):
Back to you, all right, thank you, Steve. It's the
Eye Couple. Christ and Rob live from the tire rack
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and I'm glad to have him on the show. I
got some things to ask him of NFL analysts. Now Merrill, Hodge, Meryll,
welcome to the eye couple.

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Man o yo.

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I love the odd Couple's part.

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The Hey, Chris, you should see Merrill. I mean, my god,
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I see him waste up. He looks like back in
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Hey, he wants some of the NFL money rule.

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Don't hit me. I'm all in. Just don't hit me.

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Now, Meryl, tell us what you're you're you're here for
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can actually feel how I do feel stronger when I'm
doing my cardio. But here's where I did an accident,
which is typical of a SEE student.

Speaker 7 (25:48):
You don't do it on purpose, you do it all.

Speaker 11 (25:51):
I take a trip to Pebble Beach and Santa Barbara,
and then I had to go to Arizona and you to.
I was gone for like fourteen days. I trained while
I was gone. I lifted, I stretched, I didn't do
any cardio, and I did this. So I got home
and I started doing my cardio. I do a high
intense cardios my first day, and you could tell it.
I hadn't worked out for two weeks by my heart rate,
but my ability to breathe was easy, and I was like,

(26:12):
holy cow that. I was like, so, let's say somebody
isn't isn't doing any cardio. You could do this five days,
five minutes a day, twice a day, six days out
of the week, and you can improve your respiratory system
and your ability to breathe and oxygen flow. And if
that and that and that improvement will help you feel better,

(26:35):
think better, function better, And if that is the worst
thing that comes from it, that is a good thing.
And if it adds a little more to spark you
to invest in your health a little more and get
to add a little cardios and eat a little better,
then Chris.

Speaker 7 (26:49):
Can yeahs machine baby.

Speaker 11 (26:55):
So you can go to breathefit dot com if you
if you're interested in and it doesn't you don't have
to be somebody who's never done it. You can be
somebody who's really training good and you can enhance your program,
so it's benefit for everybody.

Speaker 5 (27:07):
Awesome. Yeah, that's good stuff.

Speaker 7 (27:08):
So thank you, Thank you guys.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
No, definitely, Well, what I wanted to ask you about, Meryl,
because I remember we had you on a few years ago,
and I'd even heard you interviewed on other shows, and
you wrote a book a few years ago right about
kind of if I hope this doesn't mis calculate what
you were saying, but kind of challenging the talk about

(27:32):
CTE or the damage that football does to you know,
people's brains and players and things like that. So one
I want to know again, tell us about the book
and your viewpoint, and I want to know kind of
where that's at, because you really you only hear the
other side. You really don't hear your side very much.

Speaker 7 (27:50):
Yeah, so we'll update the science.

Speaker 11 (27:53):
So really, all I'm telling you is what the science
tells you and the truth of the science. So in
the book I wrote, which is actually a little over
five years ago, Wow, there was no science to support
that playing football at any level at any time is
going to leave you with the possibility of a brain
disease or cognitive impairment. Okay, there's no scientific evidence to

(28:17):
back that. In fact, to update the science, they just
did a research was just done where they looked at
all of the research done over the last twenty years
from two thousand and three to twenty twenty three, and
there was a certain standard of science that was required
based on the papers they selected. Not one of Boston
University's papers were selected in this particular review for this

(28:40):
it's weakness in science. And I'll get to that and
why it is weak science and disgusting science. And they're
the ones that created this narrative too, by the way, Chris,
So this is where it all starts in those all
of the literature, so at every piece of literature that
has been done in twenty years was looked at, and
there's not one piece of evidence that said if playing

(29:01):
contact sports, contact football, you have a risk of having
some type of brand disease later in life.

Speaker 7 (29:07):
There's not one.

Speaker 11 (29:07):
And this was more poignant to the California bill when
they're trying to ban tap in football. There is no
reason to ban that based on a scientific aspect. Now
you go back to the people that created this. When
I first wrote this book, I couldn't share a lot
of things that I knew at the time because the
book wouldn't have ever been published, would have been.

Speaker 7 (29:29):
In legal arguments.

Speaker 11 (29:30):
Well, Boston University has been in the court of public opinion,
so they can say anything they want. People aren't going
to go read the scientific literature. They're not going to
verify if it's true or not true. They're just going
to spew what Boston University says their science says without
reading it, which is deplorable and harmful quite honestly to
people from a journalists perspective, if you don't do that,
because that's your responsibility to.

Speaker 7 (29:51):
Know that if you're going to share it.

Speaker 11 (29:53):
Well, they've been in a bunch of court cases, so
they now went into the court of law. They have
been exposed for changing medical records, adding to medical records
the scientists and the medical people of Boston University. And
that is court documents.

Speaker 7 (30:08):
That is not me saying it.

Speaker 11 (30:09):
That is in the public arena, that is based on depositions.
That is why their science is atrocious. There is no
Now that doesn't mean that concussions are okay or having
head trauma is okay, because it's not and there is
ways to repair and recover from that. What it's not
going to lead to is a brain disease because there's

(30:29):
no scientific evidence to support that.

Speaker 7 (30:31):
There's not a shred of evidence.

Speaker 11 (30:32):
In fact, the science that is coming out more and
more and more is stacking against that, which is a
critical step of science. Replication and duplication. You must continue
to look at the research it and do it over
and over again. And everything that's replicated and duplicated keeps
back to saying that there is not going to be
a brain disease later, Like now, the pattern of ct

(30:54):
does exist.

Speaker 7 (30:54):
Okay, that that does, but it's not it's in an
observation state.

Speaker 11 (30:59):
And more people that have that pattern that are in
the medical journal, and this is a scientific fact and
a medical fact, had.

Speaker 7 (31:05):
Never played football. More people in the.

Speaker 11 (31:07):
Medical journal have that pattern, never played football, never had
a head trauma, and never played a contact sport in
their life. Okay, now I can just say this is
just by the sampling or not that tells you that
football isn't even a part of the equation.

Speaker 5 (31:18):
But let me ask you this, and.

Speaker 6 (31:22):
There are for football players, a lot of football players
drop dead in their fifties, and there's a lot of
and I don't I.

Speaker 5 (31:28):
Don't have the exact numbers.

Speaker 6 (31:29):
So you're saying that football has nothing to do with
some of these people who have played and experienced things
later on in life.

Speaker 7 (31:38):
Are you saying, Okay, no, I'm saying that's what I'm playing.

Speaker 11 (31:41):
Football does not cause a brain disease or or the
pattern ct that that's not causing the CTE pattern.

Speaker 7 (31:48):
And then you're having a brain disease later in life.

Speaker 11 (31:50):
That's what I'm saying, Can you have some cognitive issues
from playing the football and having some impact. I'm a
living example of that. What ended my career was in
proper care. And it wasn't the concussion. It was improper care,
that physical trauma that ended my career. I went into
cardiac arrest. I laid intensive care for days. I had

(32:10):
to learn how to read again. The physical aspect of
what I experienced. I eventually recovered from. I did some treatment,
some protocols, actually self anointed stuff. Now we have protocols,
and we have treatment and care. I cannot repair that.
But the thing that put me over the edge, the
thing that drove that sat me on a couch and
brought dark days in my life, was the emotional trauma,

(32:35):
the loss, the no purpose, the no hope. I lost
my career, something I've done for twenty two years. Emotional
trauma is our bigger concern than the actual physical trauma.
Now they can have say similar symptoms, but think of
this when you think of I was just okay, I
mentioned the Pebble Beach trip.

Speaker 7 (32:53):
I'm going to trip with four people.

Speaker 11 (32:55):
Okay, these four guys that are there are all everyone
of them are going to have a knee replacement or
a hip replacement within the next year. One of their
sons died at age fifty three drug overdose, the other
one commits suicide at age thirty eight, and the other
one had his wife got dementia at age fifty nine.
If these were NFL players, and I gave you that

(33:18):
whole scenario, people would point out one thing football.

Speaker 7 (33:22):
They would say football caused it. That's what now.

Speaker 11 (33:25):
I'm not saying there's not wear and tear from playing
the game of football. I'm not saying it's okay to
have hit Trump. That's why we have protocols in place.
But there's incredible treatment. There's incredical rehab process that can
help you recover from that. The emotional trauma is the
bigger aspect of life and our concerns, and there's care
for that.

Speaker 6 (33:44):
Is so when you hear and we've heard some former
football players who will not allow their kids to play.
Even Brett Favre went on the record and said he
has daughters, so but he said if he had a
son there, yeah, he wouldn't let him play football.

Speaker 5 (33:59):
When you hear that, what do you make of that,
and that's what I'm just well, that's just am I right, Chris, Yeah,
I've heard it.

Speaker 7 (34:05):
That's all I've heard. That'll make sure I'm not Chris.

Speaker 11 (34:07):
I'm glad you brought all this up because these these
are topics that are going to keep keep evolving and
we need.

Speaker 5 (34:12):
To wait, we have to talk about it.

Speaker 7 (34:14):
You're here and we otherwise what would and we need
to share what the real facts are.

Speaker 11 (34:18):
So I'm just saying when you hear that, when I'm
going to say that, I don't know where they're getting
their information.

Speaker 7 (34:22):
Okay, are they hearing it from the media, Because I
go back this I have.

Speaker 11 (34:25):
I had a son too start playing age seven, played
all the way to a Division one scholarship to by
you played quarterback, you played. I coached thousands and thousands
of kids, hey, from ages eight to eighteen. I see
the ultimate value that sports, especially football, can help the resiliency,
all of the tools that you create for a young
man and young kids to give them tools for life's work,

(34:48):
and the value in that. And when I hear somebody
say they want their kids to play a contact sport,
I would just have to where did you get that information?
What are you basing your information on. I think a
parent has the responsibility to look at all the information.

Speaker 6 (35:00):
Some of those guys, I've asked that question and they say,
when I when I can't get up, or my body
or what I've been through physically, I don't want my children.

Speaker 7 (35:13):
To go through that.

Speaker 6 (35:14):
That's the answer that they give me. And so their
their their thing is not scientific or through a book.
It's the experience, and you can't it's hard to argue
with that if they've experienced I.

Speaker 7 (35:25):
Ever argue that.

Speaker 11 (35:26):
I argue that I would never argue another parents reasoning
for not doing But I have a lot of parents
come to me and go, well, you know I heard that.

Speaker 7 (35:35):
You know they're gonna get a brain.

Speaker 11 (35:36):
My kid if I play football, youth football, if you
have brain disease. Letter, Absolutely, that's not true. There's no
science to support that. I'll give you the scientific literature
to read it. I'm not going to change your mind
because I have no right to do that. I just
want to open your mind so that you have the
right information. If you're gonna rob your kid of something
they love, at least do it with all the information
before you robb them.

Speaker 3 (35:56):
Maro we gotta go, but in about fifteen seconds. I
know that's quick. If you can't, is the league Do
you have a voice with the league or anybody that's
promoting your viewpoint? Is the league hearing that or not?

Speaker 11 (36:11):
There's a yes and a note of that, Chris, here's
the look we saw. Everybody saw what happened to it. Okay,
this is still the biggest problem with head trauma is
improper care. We have protocols and tools in place, if
they're not executed properly. It comes down to failure of
using the proper protocols and tool that failed me, that
failed to it, and that's still the biggest problem.

Speaker 7 (36:30):
Listen, if we don't want to have head trauma, then
don't live in your home.

Speaker 11 (36:33):
Leading cause of head trauma tripping and falling, most dangerous
environment your home. Don't you kids walk into a shower,
don't let them go down the stairs. The case it's
if it does happen, what do you do and what
protocols put in place? Get them the right treatment, get
them the right care. Don't live in fear, lived by
what you trust.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
Great stuff, marri Well, quickly to name of your book
for those they might want.

Speaker 11 (36:52):
To get brainwashed, is brainwashed, and if the bad signs
behind foot, the bad signs behind seat in the plots
destroy football.

Speaker 5 (37:01):
Chris is brainwashed. He thinks Tom Brady is the go,
not that Joe Montana.

Speaker 11 (37:07):
Chris, I actually like you you're thinking. I don't think
anybody could trump Tom Brady.

Speaker 3 (37:11):
I knew, I knew Merril.

Speaker 4 (37:15):
The cheat.

Speaker 3 (37:19):
This finished this off air. But Merril has great stuff.
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Speaker 5 (38:23):
All right, here we go, a little Shekel City.

Speaker 6 (38:27):
You know what, best bet, I'm taking Denver minus two
and a half taking on the Lakers in Los Angeles.
They could put up all the statues, ninety statues with
Kobe today, I'm still gonna take.

Speaker 5 (38:38):
Denver in that game. I know it will be an
emotional moment in Los Angeles.

Speaker 6 (38:42):
Maybe they'll play off of the Kobe statue unveiling and
win a game over Denver.

Speaker 5 (38:46):
No, Denver minus three and a half.

Speaker 6 (38:50):
I'm taking the Pistons plus seven and a half on
the road, Chris in Portland, and.

Speaker 5 (38:56):
I'm taking the Suns minus four and a half.

Speaker 6 (38:58):
They're thirty and twenty one now against a Utah Jazz
sitting at five hundred. So there you go, all right,
Bick minus two and a half, Pistons plus seven and
a half, and the Sun's minus four and a half.

Speaker 5 (39:11):
Remember, I'm not telling you who to bet on. I'm
telling you who I bet on.

Speaker 3 (39:15):
Quickly, Rob, you mentioned the Kobe statues. They're gonna have three,
So Rob Gee, I saw the unveiling of the first one,
he's like pointing towards this guy. So they're gonna have
one in uniform number eight, one in number twenty four,
and one of him and his daughter Gianna.

Speaker 12 (39:33):
Yes, so the first one that they unveiled today is
actually the pose he had walking off the floor when
he scored eighty one points. So if you look at
that picture like Getty images, that you'll see if that's
the voter that they have. The other two will be created,
and they don't know what they're gonna be yet, and
those will be unveiled at a later date.

Speaker 3 (39:50):
But until I was wonder they only unveiled one, so
I thought they were already.

Speaker 6 (39:54):
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Speaker 3 (40:21):
All right, Rob g you were the huge Kobe and
Laker fan. How do you feel about the statues I'll
tell you what.

Speaker 12 (40:28):
What I like that, Vanessa Bryant said during the unveiling
is that he's the one who picked this post. So
if anyone has an issue with it, he said, tough blank.
So I really thought that was cool because there's so
many different iconic uh Kobe moments. You know that him
shaking his jersey.

Speaker 7 (40:44):
Look like him?

Speaker 3 (40:44):
It does?

Speaker 6 (40:45):
I mean, yeah, but there are some that are bad.
We've talked about it, Chris, like some like they they
missed the boat.

Speaker 12 (40:53):
There's a Ronaldo statue that looks terrible, the soccer star.

Speaker 5 (40:59):
This one looks good.

Speaker 3 (41:00):
And is it going to be across the street. Where
is it going to be?

Speaker 5 (41:04):
It's right under the yeah statue. Yep, yeah, okay, they
gonna statue. You can't even get in the building.

Speaker 7 (41:11):
It's so many.

Speaker 3 (41:13):
It is a ton of statues. How many it must be?
Now if with Kobe's three, that's gonna be ten eleven.
I was gonna say forty.

Speaker 5 (41:22):
Well, I I'm trying to get in the building.

Speaker 8 (41:24):
It is.

Speaker 3 (41:24):
It's a bit much, but hey, Kobe obviously deserves it
all right, two hours left.

Speaker 5 (41:29):
Keep it like a co
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