July 4, 2025 • 40 mins
In Hour 1 of The Odd Couple 🎙️, Rob Parker is joined by Martin Weiss, filling in for Kevin Washington. The duo kicks off the show by asking: How old is too old for athletes? They dive into the extended careers of LeBron James and other aging stars. Later, Fox Sports Radio contributor Alan Lee joins the show to discuss MLB and NBA free agency. Plus, Rob gives his picks of the night in another edition of Shekel City, and things heat up with a fun debate: hot dog or burger? All that and more in Hour 1! 🔥🎧
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Speaker 3 (02:15):
Mister Martin Weiss, how are you doing well? Working for
my financial independence? On this? Is that what you're doing?
I'm doing something? All right? July?
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Did you guys grill barbecue? Do anything for lunch or
just hanging out today for a nice walk?
Speaker 3 (02:35):
That's about it?
Speaker 5 (02:35):
Is that your fourth walk to the coffee shop, came
back home, read some stuff on the SPN, got ready
for work, all right, that's about it.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Very effestive. Fourth of July.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
Yes, you know what I'm doing and I'm going to
see a movie in a cemetery tonight.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
That's real nice is that when your fiance that's romantic
in the cemetery.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
Hollywood cemetery, they have these like basically outdoor movie showings,
and so she likes to go. Okay, So there is
it an old movie or something new relatively old? I
think it's I think it actually might be Top Gun,
the first Top gunka so new to.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
You but old to everybody else. I've seen Top Gun. Really, Yes,
that's surprising. It came out in the eighties, right, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (03:15):
I was.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
I went on a date and took somebody's They used
to be there. Used to be like dates when you
used to go to the movies or I don't know
if people do that anymore, but I actually I can
remember so many movies where you know that that back
in those days, you would go out to movies.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Now now you just watch The Golden Girls or Perry Mason.
There you go, either one.
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Shay right your school. And yes, indeed, so he's just
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But he's a writer and has a bright future in
the business. All right, Hey, Mark, let's do this start
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with the NBA. And I know this is July fourth,
and we do want you to get involved on the show.
And if you're driving around, I know a lot of
people having barbecues, hanging out with their families and whatnot,
but there are people in the car, sure, and we
would love to hear from you, so you know, when
that time comes, please join us. But I'm wondering about
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a shelf life for players. And Lebron's been in the
news of course, with the idea that he took his
money almost fifty three.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Million dollars, And then.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Rich Paul came out and said, he's about winning, and
he's gonna monitor the Lakers and what they're doing, and
this could be his last year with the Lakers and
he could go somewhere else if he wanted to continue
to play, especially if it looks like the Lakers are
going to, you know, build a team around Luca. But
my thing is, I'm starting to see a lot of
(05:40):
comments from people about, you know, Lebron fatigue. Can he
just retire now? You know, stuff like that, like a
big volume. And I thought to myself, is there a
shelf life? Can people get tired of players and players
get to play longer?
Speaker 3 (05:58):
You know, when you look at play like Larry Bird or.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Isaiah Thomas, you know those guys played thirteen years. They
didn't play a long time. Michael Jordan thirteen. Lebron's in
what is his twenty first season coming up? And Tom
Brady played twenty one or twenty two seasons?
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Like you start to look at that. Aaron Rodgers, I
believe is this twenty one coming up? This is twenty
right now?
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Twenty I mean, you know, people are now twenty where
guys played thirteen years, They're playing, you know, a third
of the time more than guys played in the past.
And I think that's where you wind up where people
start to take aim at you because you can stick
around too long and people get tired of you or
don't want to hear enough with the Lebron the stories.
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I know, people got tired of Tom Brady, no matter
how great he was.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
There were the detractors who wish.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
He would have retired, you know, and then every year
was like, he's gonna play again, He's gonna come back.
Remember that we had that with Brett Favre, the same
kind of thing, but it just got tiring. And I
feel that way with Aaron Rodgers. I think there are
a lot of people who would rather him just retire
and not play. And I think he will retire. I
do believe that after this season with Pittsburgh, so that'll
probably be the end of it.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
But where are you on.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Players having a shelf life and fans tired of Lebron.
Do you think most fans want to see Lebron continue
to play as long as he can, or would most
rather him bow out.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
I don't think that players have a shelf life in
terms of thereon, Like your shelf life is when you
can no longer compete at a high level. To me,
the thing that gets you with Lebron or a Brady
or a Rogers in that it's the dance of am
I playing this year? Am I coming back this year?
We got to improve the team build around me that
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general attitude, Like for Steph, like no one is saying
that Steph Curry is overstayed, is welcome? He's just as
old as these guys, Like no one is saying that
about stepf.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
How many years as he played? Has it been twenty?
Hasn't been Steph curse thirty six years old? So I mean,
he's right, but he's not. Lebron's forty going to be
forty one.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Right, right?
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Rogers put my point. But I think there.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Comes a time like Steph's not there yet, right If
he started at twenty two, He's got fourteen years, fifteen
years something like that, so he not.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
It's about how you act. It's about how you act,
and it's how you interact with the media. It's about
how you interact with your teammates, about how you interact
with everybody else the other Tim Duncan, I'm not exactly
sure how long his career was, but when it was
time for him to go and he and he retired,
nobody that year was like, man, if we don't Tim
Duncans just got to get out of the league.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
That wasn't the case.
Speaker 5 (08:44):
But like the idea that Lebron right now is kind
of being disingenuous, like you locked in for this fifty
one point three or whatever point six million dollars option
and now are playing basically the same playbook. It feels
at least it could be the same paybook that we've
seen several times throughout his career, and at a certain
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point in time there's an annoyance of dude. Sometimes only
the top of the guys at the top can do this,
and I'd say Lebron is no longer necessarily at the top.
But you also have to understand the market around you,
where if you're the Lakers, you're one hundred percent about
to build around Luca Dontons, who you just traded for,
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Like guys only twenty five years old, you had the
Anthony Davis Lebron era you traded away one of those pieces,
and just even if it wasn't Luca, if it wasn't
five times all NBA, if it wasn't a finals appearance
before twenty six years old, if it wasn't that you
broke up the pairing that you built to win championships
to bring in somebody else. Generally, you're gonna build around
(09:48):
the new piece unless you're unless you're just you know,
tanking to try to get a new draft pick.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
I think Lebron also hurts himself the longer he plays
and doesn't win. I do because you thought to look,
could the years piling up and you still have the
four championships and you start looking around and you say, well,
Steph has that you know, like it's not special, Like
if he plays twenty four or twenty five years, right,
I don't know. Could he play two more years but
he got twenty Yeah, but.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
That still doesn't take away to me the way he
was able to play at his prime.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Yeah, but it's not the same prime.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
And I'm gonna say this because people talk about his numbers.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Look at his plus minus. He was like one of
the worst players. So I get it.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
It's easier to score in the NBA than ever before.
So when you look at his numbers, they're inflated. They're
not like real numbers to me, because everybody can score
and you can't play defense against people, you can't touch people.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
So Lebron is able to score. I don't have that issue.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
But if you're looking at plus minus and what he
does on the last year, he was like one of
the worst players in the league, even in the playoffs.
I think he was minus fifty three when he was
on the court. So what is this real impact? Not
just looking at raw numbers you think he's the same
players he was ten years ago.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
No, but that's not what I said. I said, what's
happening right now doesn't invalidate ten years ago.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
I'm not validating any conference on lock. Well, he had
no other everybody else was on his team. Who was
it in the way.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
He was in the Eastern Conference finals for a decade
like he had the Eastern Conference on lock. That doesn't
change what's happening right now, doesn't change that to me,
at least, it doesn't invalidate that.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
To me, I'm not I didn't say validate anything. I'm
just saying I don't think he's the same player.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
He's not ten years old. That's not expecting him to
be the same.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
What people look at the numbers and they keep saying
twenty five and eight, you know, like Kelvin and I
argue all the top. Kelvin doesn't look at anything else
other than those numbers, and he says, oh, well, Lebron
is one of I think he said, one of the
top ten players in the league.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
I don't think he is.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
Well, he's definitely not one of the worst players in
the league. With what you said, he's not probably not
one of the top seven players in the league. I
can hear an argument for ten, But the idea where
he's like one of the worst players I can't get with.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
That's the issue is it's the fifty one million dollars.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
If Lebron was playing for fourteen million dollars the mid
level exception, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Yeah, I just I think Lebron probably should have bowed
out already. But I get it with the son, he
wanted to hang around for that and that was one
of his reasonings. And now as you go forward, it
just seems weird to me that you would want to
stick around and then you know, take all the money.
(12:30):
And I'm just saying he's entitled to whatever he wants,
But what is the motivation?
Speaker 3 (12:35):
What is he playing for?
Speaker 1 (12:36):
If you don't have a chance to win, and you're
that age and your idea is more than anything, you
were chasing this Michael Jordan ghost of trying to get
to six championships, That's what I don't understand.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
Well, he's playing for the fifty one million dollars that
would be enough to get me to lay them up
one more time to make all get them.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
But I'm talking about the playing without wouldn't you want
to have a chance to win at this age He's
a billionaire.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
I'm not pulling the money.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Anybody else I would tell you should always take the
money and play for it. But when you get to
this level, to me, it can't be just oh, I
want a fifty one million dollar payroll because payday.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Here's the other thing.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Nobody in the league is interested in Lebron James. Despite
his numbers, No one's at that at that figure.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
Yeah, that's the figure that's you said, despite his numbers,
The number that matters is the fifty one million.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
If Lebron that's kind of where it gets.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
To the all right, Rich Paul, you come up with
this statement, all right, rolled my eyes at this because
you could have opted out, and sure, nobody has massive
cap space. Nobody was gonna sign up for fifty one
million dollars. But there's plenty of mid level of mid
level exceptions out there, both taxpayer and non taxpayer, that
he could be on a different team right now if
he wanted to be.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Yeah, yeah, just it's a price tag. Absolutely, people would
have taken him for a decent price. But I see
where he I don't see him going anywhere. I don't
see how he could possibly be anywhere but the Lakers
because of that price tag.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
So do you think this just gut is this his
last year? I no, I don't just gut reaction. I'm
not no lean know anything. I don't think it's his
last year unless they go on like some magical run.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
If I put it like this, if he's not a Laker,
it's definitely not his last year. Okay, all right?
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven
nine nine.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Six sixty three sixty nine. Are you tired of Lebron?
Speaker 6 (14:37):
Like?
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Seriously? Athletes? Do you like it when they hang on
and play as long as they can. Are you from
that school, the old school of they gotta rip the
uniform off of me? Or do you think that there's
a time and you should know when it's time to
bow out? To get tired of the same stories, tired of
talking about somebody?
Speaker 3 (14:55):
You know?
Speaker 1 (14:55):
For two decades, we're still talking about the same guy.
And I remember when Tom Brady retire as far as
the media, it was great, like, can we move on
to somebody else now and talk about somebody else? It
had gotten to the point where it's absolutely ridiculous. I
feel the same here with Lebron. But all right, eight seven,
seven ninety nine on Fox, we want to hear from you.
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Where are you Lebron players? Sticking around too long? Should
they know when it's time to bounce out or not?
It is The Odd Couple on a Funky Flashback Friday,
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Speaker 5 (15:33):
Stick and stay unless you aren't tired of Lebron James,
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Speaker 1 (17:02):
All right, eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox talking
about players athletes with shelf lives. Brady, of course, was
around for a long time. Lebron has reached that point,
Aaron Rodgers, where are you should Lebron these guys just
bow out at some point? Or should they play until
they rip the uniform off? KC and Oregon? You're on
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the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
What's up? KC?
Speaker 8 (17:28):
Hey, sup, guys, thanks for working today. You guys are
keeping me entertained while he's right.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
My man, you dog gotta be here for UKC always.
Speaker 9 (17:36):
Well.
Speaker 8 (17:37):
I appreciate that, but not only am I tired of Lebron, Guys.
I'm kind of getting tired of Rob Pelink. It's time
he grows up there and maybe trade Lebron to Golden
State for Cominga or to Cleveland for Darius Garland. You
gotta start building around Luca or are you gonna wait
his prime years? It's just he's holding organization hostage.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
All right. I will say Rob Polinka has been riding
the wave well.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
But they have a new owner now, so that might change. God,
I switch up. I think that will switch up. He
didn't pay ten billion dollars to let somebody else, you know,
nobody pays that much money to keep thinking, keep.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Thinking the same. It doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Uh, Doug in Illinois, you're on the odd couple of
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
What's up, Doug?
Speaker 6 (18:22):
Hey, how you guys doing today?
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Doing great? Thanks for calling in on this fourth of July.
We appreciate you, hey man, thanks for being here.
Speaker 10 (18:30):
I listened to this show every single day. This is
right before I go to work, so I sit in
my car for an hour listening to you guys every
day going to work. So I appreciate you guys a
bunch man.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Thank you.
Speaker 9 (18:41):
Hey.
Speaker 6 (18:41):
I just wanted to.
Speaker 10 (18:42):
Put in a little bit with Lebron and I'll say
what I gotta.
Speaker 6 (18:46):
Say, then let you guys talk about it.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Okay.
Speaker 10 (18:47):
Do you guys think it has more to do with
his I think Lebron has a really large need for attention,
for that recognition, and I just think when he retires,
I don't know where he thinks he will will get that.
So I think there's a large part of that when
I look at it, where basketball is who he is
and he wants that attention. What do you guys think?
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Okay, I think there's always a piece of that when
you've had that kind of been on that kind of
platform and you know where you're going to get that
from anywhere else not at the same level.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
And I believe it's applied to drugs celebrities.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
It's it's a level of to me, your athlete mortality
is something that you have to come to terms with,
and especially Lebron. Yeah, to think about it, Lebron has
identified his entire life as not only a great basketball player,
but one of the best, the best player on his
team until what six months ago, you know what it
was seven months ago, Like when they traded for Luca.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
It happened. It happens in this business too.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
I mean, there are a lot of guys who just
will not retire because they grow that this is who
they are and they stick around and they there's so
many guys working in their seventies. It's just amazing, you
know what I mean, especially with social media. You can
be working in nobody paying you. Dre in Michigan. You're
on the odd couple. Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Drake?
Speaker 9 (20:09):
What's going on? Y' all right? How you I'm doing good?
Robert because I gotta call you Robert because you ain't
even asking my calls, lady.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Man, man, you know what you've baby been trying to
get through. We've just been busy, that's all, you know, how, But.
Speaker 9 (20:21):
Don't forget about the day once I'm about to lie down.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
I'm from mathachuonts come nah, stop it stopping?
Speaker 9 (20:29):
Hey, No, but look, I don't have a problem with Lebron, man, Dude,
that'd be like me telling you, man, you're sick, you
need to retire. No, you're still good at what you do.
You're still doing it at a high level.
Speaker 10 (20:39):
You dedicated most of.
Speaker 6 (20:40):
Your life to your craft.
Speaker 9 (20:41):
So who am I to push you out the door
to say?
Speaker 6 (20:43):
Oh, now, if he was doing ten.
Speaker 9 (20:45):
Two and two, Okay, Yeah, Lebron is trying to hang
it up, but you know, the man still producing second
NBA or NBA. How we gonna fought that. I think
the problem with Lebron is that he's always been the
system but now he's too old to be the system.
But he's still a very good player, so it's not
why he's doing the viz Carter was Kevin Willis or somebody.
You know, he's still balding I was in twenty five
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and whatever. He just don't impact the game.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
To say exactly, Drey, that's true. Thanks for the call.
Happy for I appreciate you. How about Cameron in LA.
You're in the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Cameron?
Speaker 11 (21:20):
Hey, good afternoon guys.
Speaker 9 (21:22):
Yeah, Joe, Happy fourth of July.
Speaker 6 (21:25):
Tou too, Thanks for having me on the show.
Speaker 11 (21:28):
I've been getting very frustrated with this like constant insistence
that like Lebron should hang it up, as though you know,
he's not still an incredible player, and as though it's
not like incredible to be in the presence of this
type of player.
Speaker 6 (21:43):
We're witnessing the.
Speaker 11 (21:44):
NBA's all time leading scorer, who was one of the
greatest young.
Speaker 6 (21:47):
Players ever, one of the greatest old players ever.
Speaker 11 (21:49):
I understand, you know, he's got an ego. I understand
he's been to his own detriment in terms of winning
sometimes with taking these contracts and stuff. You know, there
aren't like a lot of great criticisms of Lebron James,
but at the end of the day, he's one of the.
Speaker 10 (22:03):
Greatest basketball players ever.
Speaker 11 (22:04):
It's not the greatest, okay, and I think that it's
special to just like I don't know, I don't think
that we should be trying to shoot these all time.
Speaker 6 (22:12):
Great athletes out the door.
Speaker 11 (22:13):
You know, no one was mad when Tiger Woods came
back and won the Masters a few years ago.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
You know, yeah, but people are disappointed on what's happened
since then.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
But all I appreciate the call real quick.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Andrea, Massachusetts, you're on the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Thank you Dre for calling on fourth of July. What's up?
Speaker 6 (22:30):
How you doing?
Speaker 12 (22:31):
Happy forth to July. Thanks for taking a call. Shout
out to Dre in Michigan. Yes, so far of the
country you know got in and you know, gave this takes.
But I'm going to concur with the previous callers. But
Lebron most certainly does love the attention, and he's very
much embedded in the attention economy. Right he's making hundreds
of millions up there, billions of dollars right being in
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that attention capital of Los Angeles. So that's why I
think he's holding on it. It's twofold, wants to play
with his sons, he likes playing basketball. What are you
going to do sit on the beach and abvisa. It's
not the same. It's not the same energy. And also
his business interests are very much vested in what he's
going to do post basketball as a moving movie mogu,
getting into social justice, all those other type of things.
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So for he's staying for a number of different reasons.
I think it's just not it's not all about basketball
right now. He has these other interests that he's trying
to keep putting forward, and they're all accelerated by the
fact that.
Speaker 6 (23:26):
He's Lebron James on the Lakers.
Speaker 12 (23:27):
It's not going to be the same Michael Jordan can
make one hundreds of millions of dollars with his air Jordan's,
but we don't see him every day for the Chicago Books.
Speaker 6 (23:34):
You don't have that same impact.
Speaker 10 (23:36):
So he's aware of that.
Speaker 6 (23:37):
Happy forward.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Thanks taking the call, yep, thank you, dre appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (23:40):
In a minute, we'll have Alan Lee, Fox Sports Radio
contributor coming up. In just a second, But for now,
let's go ahead and kick it over to Steve Di sager.
No one is tired of Steve di Sager. I guarantee
that well.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
No vote has been taken.
Speaker 13 (23:52):
Let's start with the holiday scoreward in Major League Baseball,
end of one at Cleveland, the Guardians not only on
the board, but ending a drought at the flight. Jose
Ramirez not only got on base, he had a solo
homer for Cleveland in the first inning. They're up one
nothing on Detroit after one. Also among the evening games
in progress, the Rangers now have a two to nothing
lead at San Diego in the bottom of the fourth,
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Trevor Simeon with a two run double and Marcus Simeon.
And by the way, we have Angels at Blue Jays
scoreless bottom of the second. But a lot of finals
from today, including the game at Wrigley Field where the
Cubs hit eight home runs, a franchise record. My Michael
Bush had three of them, eleven to three. The final
Cubs over Saint Louis. Cardinals only had three hits in
the game at Seattle. Two more home runs from Cal Rawley,
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the All Star catcher with thirty five this year. Six nothing.
Mariners shut out Pittsburgh Minnesota on a solo homer bottom
of the ninth edge Tampa Bay four to three. Cincinnati
won nine to six at Philadelphia, while the Mets got
a home win against the Yankees six to five, so
the Mets second in the NL East, just a half
game behind Philadelphia. Jeff McNeil a key two run homer
in the seventh for the lead the loss to Luke
(24:57):
Weaver Aaron Judge with his thirty second home, but the
Yankees have lost five straight. Boston won the early game
eleven to two at Washington. Among the late games, the
Dodgers going for a fifth straight win, start up in
an hour and a half at home, starting the weekend
series against Houston.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
The w NBA is off.
Speaker 13 (25:14):
Caitlin Clark will miss a fifth straight game Saturday with
the groin injury. Carlos Alcarez advanced to the fourth round
at Wimbledon, and women's number one Arena Sablenka also won.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Back to You All Right, we are the odd Couple.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Fox Sports Radio on a funky Flashback Friday, Rob Parker,
Martin Weiss in for Kelvin Washington and now let's welcome
in Alan Lee, a Fox Sports radio contributor, played little
minor league baseball in his day. Alan, welcome to the
odd couple. What's happening, Hey.
Speaker 6 (25:48):
Not much fellas. You guys get some barbecue today, you
know your tummy's full.
Speaker 5 (25:53):
Not yet, that'll be that'll be Pels show for me. Yes,
But right now watching Detroit Tigers and Jose Ramirez, this barbecue,
the ball to the upper deck. They trailing the Guardians
one to nothing. But Tigers have been one of the
best teams, if not the best team in the American
League all regular season thus far up to this point.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Is this real or is this a bad division?
Speaker 6 (26:18):
You know, you have to really ask that question. I know,
before the season started, all the fan base kept saying,
you know what, not spending any money hawking this team
be any good.
Speaker 9 (26:27):
It's ridiculous.
Speaker 6 (26:27):
Look how far we got last year, and guys have
just been coming through off season long for the Tigers.
I mean, did you ever think that you would actually
see Hobby bay As at an All Star Game? Again?
Speaker 3 (26:39):
No? No that now.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
First of all, Byron Buxton should have been the starting
center fielder for the American League.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
But two things can be true.
Speaker 5 (26:48):
He shouldn't be the starting center fielder for the All
Star Game.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
But it's also remarkable that he could even be considered
to get the starting No, I get that, but you
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
The year Buston's having you notice all with the glove
and the bad I just got, like center the starting
center fielder for.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
The American League.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
If you had told me last if you to on
me two years ago, the Hovey Bayers would be the
starting centerfield at the All Star I would say they
had a triple A All Star You said, Toledo.
Speaker 6 (27:13):
Huh, sorry, it's been amazing. And you know, the Tigers
just have these guys with a lot of people around
the country. Probably you have no idea about Riley Green
is one of the best players in the game.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Made the All Star Game last year.
Speaker 6 (27:25):
Yeah, this guy just continues to just break man. He
is so good and rob you know this talking about
guys in the All Star Game, Labor Torres, did you
ever think that would happen?
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Yep?
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Free agent from the Yankees, and look at what he's doing.
He's having a really good season for the Tigers. He
probably needed Allen a change of scenery from the Bronx because, Uh,
he had his moments, but there was a lot of
bad moments for him as well, So I think that
that has worked out. Speaking of New York, I want
to switch over to the New York Metropolitans.
Speaker 6 (27:55):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
They beat the Yankees today six to five, but they've scuffled,
even with one who's obviously playing better. Now the numbers
don't feel as good. They're close, you know what I
mean to what he did with the Yankees, but it
doesn't feel the same Allen. So far, the Mets have
been disappointing to me.
Speaker 6 (28:13):
Well, you know, if it wasn't for Pete Alonzo, that
guy that almost got away in the off season because
he really kept him afloat for the longest time, he's
having a great season. Eighteen home runs, sixty eight rbives
was yesterday that in two eighty seven. I mean, he's
having quite a year, proven that you know, he's worth
every penny that they didn't want to give him. Really.
Speaker 11 (28:32):
You know.
Speaker 6 (28:32):
The Mets problem, though, Rob really is they got to
get that pitching staff healthy.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Yes, they got to get back.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
They were off to a great start and then the
injuries are piled up.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (28:43):
Singo seven and three on the season, got one point
four to seven ERA, and you know he's got a
hamstring string. Grippin Canning just is coming off with achilles surgery.
You know, Clay Holmes is the guy that's really kept
him a float also, and they're starting rotation.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Alan Lee Fox Sports Radio contrip.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
You're here on the Independence Day joining the odd couple,
and I'm Martin Weiston for Kevin Washington with Rob Parker.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
But talking about Juan Soto.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
Then when the Nationals moved to want Soto, they got
back James Wood, who had a hell of a week right,
intentionally walked four times then five for five last night, which.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
You should say, Martin, nobody had done that.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
They hadn't done that to anybody since Barry Bonds in
what two thousand and.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
Four, So over twenty one years Lebron's career.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
Uh so you got four for five, Yeah, four intentional walks,
five for five, hits his twenty third home run last
night and announces for the All Star home run derby.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Uh is this guy a star in the making?
Speaker 6 (29:41):
There's any doubt about that. I don't think there's any
team in the league that wants to really face this guy.
I mean, he killed the Padres when he went back there.
I think it was last week. And you talk about
that the gifts to keep on giving. You know what
the what Washington got for Soto, j Abrams, Tinthy Gore.
But James Wood is he's.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Got a nice w beautiful and he's another Aaron Judge six,
seven or eight, could have played basketball whatever and chose
baseball and homegrown.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
He's from Maryland, so.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Washington, there's no doubt made out with when it comes
to uh, James Wood, let's go to pitching, school ball
or Skiens.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
I know, school ball obviously school ball.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Now I'm being nice because Schooble won the Triple Crown
and pitching last year right in the American League, right
but but Skeens had an unbelievable rookie season.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Who's the better pitcher or long term verse? Right now? Yeah,
you know what I'm saying verse.
Speaker 6 (30:44):
Right now, I think there isn't a team is a
team in the league that would turn either one of
those guys away. Schemes is suffering from the fact that
the team that he plays for, right, there's no question
about that.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
They don't get any runs for him, right Yeah?
Speaker 6 (30:58):
In school ball, though, it's just on man ten and
two to one.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
R H.
Speaker 6 (31:04):
You know, you put sks what Schemes is for in
ten of this year, you put them on any other
team that you know has a decent lineup and he's
probably killing it as well. But when either one of
those guys' contract is up, oh man, I know.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
And they already said that Schemes doesn't want to talk
extension with the Tigers.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
You know, Scott Boris is we know what the pirates
and why would not Skemes? Uh school you see that
Schoogle says he's not interested in the extension right now?
Why would he? Why would he be? Especially twelve months
ago you were like, should we trade him? Yeah? I
don't think so.
Speaker 6 (31:40):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
But Kyton Kershaw earlier this week he battled it out.
It took him a couple of innings to get to
that third strike, to get to three thousand against.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
The last battery face.
Speaker 5 (31:50):
Listen, and it was going to be the last battery
face because Dave Roberts wanted to pull up before that.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
But he said, everybody bought this ticket.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Today and everybody, his whole family, all teammates, like they
were like, we've got to make the.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
Stack gave up five US. He was getting that third strikeout.
What's his legacy?
Speaker 6 (32:07):
You can see Dave though, yeah, you can see Dave
biting his tongue with Curse got that strikeout in the
last day. He knew I got to put him back
out there. Curse O is the first ballot of Hall
of Fame. But there's no question about it. I mean,
come on, you know people are gonna think of Curse
on some respect and go, well, you know it wasn't
great in the postseason. I don't want to hear that.
(32:28):
There's a number of people in the Hall of Fame
who did not put up great numbers in the postseason.
Got two hundred and sixteen wins. I mean that's a
measuring stick, a lifetime era, A two point five two.
You come on, three thousand strikeouts, not the first ballot
Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Oh no, no, there's no doubt. I mean he's going
to be a first ballot. It's just that when you
think about that, here's the issue, and you just said
it two point five to e RRA regular season, but
his era in the postseason is over four.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
And that's the part that people can't look. You know what,
I mean, when they looking at.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
A this guy was so great, probably the greatest picture
of this generation.
Speaker 6 (33:05):
You know, like, yeah, that question, but the fact that
he's four and oh this season is really shocking me.
I did not expect kurstart to be picking as well
as he had really so far this.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Season, no doubt. No, I'll tell you what he was.
Speaker 6 (33:18):
And Rob, I know you wanted to dog dog by Dodgers,
but I'll have you know you think they're having an
off year. You know what the record was last season
on July fourth, was that they were fifty three and
thirty five. Right now they're fifty six and thirty two.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Yeah, but the difference is this team started out eight
and oh this year, and you got to admit there
was just a patch where it doesn't feel as good
to me from the beginning. You noticed, Allen, when they
started the season, it didn't look like they were gonna
lose any games.
Speaker 6 (33:46):
Oh no, no, no question.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
But you know I'm not I'm just saying the way
that they looked. I mean, I know baseball, but I'm
sixty two and oh, how could they know?
Speaker 6 (33:54):
What?
Speaker 3 (33:54):
I mean?
Speaker 1 (33:54):
They were eight to o and people thought, my god,
this team is unbelievable and then they kind of hit
the But.
Speaker 6 (34:01):
But when you're moving guys around rob on a team,
it sometimes takes a while. You got Mookie in short,
you got Pies in either center or left field, and
he's really come on for them. You Putkale in right field,
and really Tao shouldn't be playing right field because he's
just not that quick enough to be out there. But
that's where he is. You got this whole situation at
second base with Kim and Edmund, you know, And now
(34:24):
I guess Roberts said that Tommy Edmond's gonna start taking
ground as a third base. He has hurt, so that's
going to allow him to get some more playing time.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
That's going to be interesting to see and kind of weird. No,
Mookie bets uh and probably in the All Star right,
he didn't get the.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
If you're the guy you want to worry about on.
Speaker 6 (34:42):
The Dodgers, Yeah, you're the guy you want to worry
about right now on the Dodgers, it's Mookie. Mookie is
not hitting well.
Speaker 5 (34:48):
I would expect him to have a second half, a
big second half. He was sick to start the year,
and the start that's sick.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
This was bad.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Yeah, I think lost yesterday he lost forty or whatever,
thirty pounds was a lost? All right, thanks ellerly appreciate.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
It, buddy, Thank you here man yep ella.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Fox Sports Radio contribute a little baseball talk all right.
Coming up next, we'll do a little Shekel City and
we'll talk about on this fourth of July what's better
a really good hot dog or a really good hamburger.
It is the odd Couple on a funky flashback Friday.
It is fourth of July. Rob Parker, Martin weiss In
for Kelvin Washington. And you know what you need to do,
(35:28):
stick and stay America.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
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Speaker 1 (35:45):
It is the odd couple Fox Sports Radio, Rob Parker,
Martin weiss In for Kelvin Washington on a funky flashback Friday.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
And you hear this.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Yes, we are live on fourth of July, and uh,
you know what it is.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
It's time for a little Shekel City. I'm beating the
yards again.
Speaker 5 (36:08):
That's my favorite. That's one of my favorite drops of
all the Filance. All right, here we go that and Jonas,
all right, here we go. Fourth of July. Some baseball
coming up. Take the Chicago White Sox minus one and
a half. They are in Colorado taking on the Colorado Rockies.
(36:37):
Take the Dodgers minus one and a half. They host the.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Houston Astros here in Los Angeles. And I'm also gonna
take on the road. I'm gonna take San Francisco. They're
playing in Sacramento taking on the A's, So I'm gonna
take the Giants minus one and a.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
Half as well.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
So again my best bet, I'm gonna take the Giants
over the age. That's the best bet. Minus one and
a half. Taking the Dodgers minus one and a half
against the Astros. And I'm gonna take the White Sox
minus one and a half in Denver taking on the Rockies.
(37:19):
And remember, Martin, I'm not telling you who to bet on.
I'm telling you who I bet on. All right, all right, Uh, it's.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
Fourth of July.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
You haven't had any barbecue or anything yet, but we're talking.
I want to ask you about the hot dog hamburger
debate because I love hamburgers, but there's nothing better than
a hot dog to me, a really good hot dog,
and I'm talking about one hundred percent beef, natural casing.
Do you know what that means? Natural casing? No phony
(37:52):
cony exactly. But when you bite it, it snaps. Have
you had a hot dog when you bite it has
a natural casing on it. It's not like a franc
that costs ten for a dollars ninety nine and very expensive.
That's what we I grew up at on New York
eating some bread hot dogs, which are by far the
(38:13):
best hot dogs ever made. They are so good. Where
are you on the hot dog hamburger debate?
Speaker 5 (38:20):
When you go down to the base model, the hot
dog is superior to the hamburger.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
However, as soon as you.
Speaker 5 (38:28):
Extend past the base your your regular backyard condiments, the
burger clears it by far. As soon as you add
any accoutrement, the burger by far.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
How Govin how about a red onion sauce and spicy
brown mustard in New York from the push carts where
we call them in New York dirty water hot dogs
because the guy with the stand he washes his hands
in the water, you know what I mean, And that's
why they call him dirty water dog.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
Do that nasty.
Speaker 5 (39:03):
Saying, that's what you are arguing against.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
But whatever flavor he has on his hands taste good
like dirty water hot that's what you're.
Speaker 5 (39:13):
Either a dirty water hot dog hot dog or a
double bacon cheeseburger. Well, yeah, I don't eat bacon. Thank you, shake,
don't please, don't disappoint.
Speaker 14 (39:27):
This is one of the only times I'll side with
you right now.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
Goodness.
Speaker 14 (39:30):
I usually can't side with you almost things, but I
signed with you here just because God, we got the
victory dog. You know what the victory dog is. It's
that bacon wrap hot dog with the peppers and the
mustard and the ketchup and the mayo and all that.
That's my go to. That's my go to. But that's pinks.
Speaker 5 (39:48):
That's that's a specialty hot dog.
Speaker 14 (39:52):
But you can say it's a specialty like hamburger. Literally,
that's the stuff that comes on a hamburger. No to
hamburger is a hamburger and like maybe some ketch up
in some mustard.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
That was what I said.
Speaker 5 (40:05):
You take it down to the base levels, hot dog clears,
but as soon as you start adding some extras.
Speaker 14 (40:09):
But I'm saying that when I add the bacon, and
I add the peppers, and I add everything else.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
To the hot, I take the hot. You know, Shay,
you're a big Dodger fan. What's the biggest thing out there?
The Dodger dog not a Dodger.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
Like Hamburger, Dodger. Hamburger's a Dodger dog.
Speaker 5 (40:24):
I'm the biggest issue with this is nobody's breaking Hamburgers
in half and dunking them in lemonade and trying to
swallow them down.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
That's where you lose a couple of hour number two
Burger clears. By the way,
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Speaker 3 (02:15):
Mister Martin Weiss, how are you doing well? Working for
my financial independence? On this? Is that what you're doing?
I'm doing something? All right? July?
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Did you guys grill barbecue? Do anything for lunch or
just hanging out today for a nice walk?
Speaker 3 (02:35):
That's about it?
Speaker 5 (02:35):
Is that your fourth walk to the coffee shop, came
back home, read some stuff on the SPN, got ready
for work, all right, that's about it.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Very effestive. Fourth of July.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
Yes, you know what I'm doing and I'm going to
see a movie in a cemetery tonight.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
That's real nice is that when your fiance that's romantic
in the cemetery.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
Hollywood cemetery, they have these like basically outdoor movie showings,
and so she likes to go. Okay, So there is
it an old movie or something new relatively old? I
think it's I think it actually might be Top Gun,
the first Top gunka so new to.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
You but old to everybody else. I've seen Top Gun. Really, Yes,
that's surprising. It came out in the eighties, right, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (03:15):
I was.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
I went on a date and took somebody's They used
to be there. Used to be like dates when you
used to go to the movies or I don't know
if people do that anymore, but I actually I can
remember so many movies where you know that that back
in those days, you would go out to movies.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Now now you just watch The Golden Girls or Perry Mason.
There you go, either one.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
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we wouldn't be able to do this fine radio program
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(04:25):
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But he's a writer and has a bright future in
the business. All right, Hey, Mark, let's do this start
(04:45):
with the NBA. And I know this is July fourth,
and we do want you to get involved on the show.
And if you're driving around, I know a lot of
people having barbecues, hanging out with their families and whatnot,
but there are people in the car, sure, and we
would love to hear from you, so you know, when
that time comes, please join us. But I'm wondering about
(05:06):
a shelf life for players. And Lebron's been in the
news of course, with the idea that he took his
money almost fifty three.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Million dollars, And then.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Rich Paul came out and said, he's about winning, and
he's gonna monitor the Lakers and what they're doing, and
this could be his last year with the Lakers and
he could go somewhere else if he wanted to continue
to play, especially if it looks like the Lakers are
going to, you know, build a team around Luca. But
my thing is, I'm starting to see a lot of
(05:40):
comments from people about, you know, Lebron fatigue. Can he
just retire now? You know, stuff like that, like a
big volume. And I thought to myself, is there a
shelf life? Can people get tired of players and players
get to play longer?
Speaker 3 (05:58):
You know, when you look at play like Larry Bird or.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Isaiah Thomas, you know those guys played thirteen years. They
didn't play a long time. Michael Jordan thirteen. Lebron's in
what is his twenty first season coming up? And Tom
Brady played twenty one or twenty two seasons?
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Like you start to look at that. Aaron Rodgers, I
believe is this twenty one coming up? This is twenty
right now?
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Twenty I mean, you know, people are now twenty where
guys played thirteen years, They're playing, you know, a third
of the time more than guys played in the past.
And I think that's where you wind up where people
start to take aim at you because you can stick
around too long and people get tired of you or
don't want to hear enough with the Lebron the stories.
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I know, people got tired of Tom Brady, no matter
how great he was.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
There were the detractors who wish.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
He would have retired, you know, and then every year
was like, he's gonna play again, He's gonna come back.
Remember that we had that with Brett Favre, the same
kind of thing, but it just got tiring. And I
feel that way with Aaron Rodgers. I think there are
a lot of people who would rather him just retire
and not play. And I think he will retire. I
do believe that after this season with Pittsburgh, so that'll
probably be the end of it.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
But where are you on.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Players having a shelf life and fans tired of Lebron.
Do you think most fans want to see Lebron continue
to play as long as he can, or would most
rather him bow out.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
I don't think that players have a shelf life in
terms of thereon, Like your shelf life is when you
can no longer compete at a high level. To me,
the thing that gets you with Lebron or a Brady
or a Rogers in that it's the dance of am
I playing this year? Am I coming back this year?
We got to improve the team build around me that
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general attitude, Like for Steph, like no one is saying
that Steph Curry is overstayed, is welcome? He's just as
old as these guys, Like no one is saying that
about stepf.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
How many years as he played? Has it been twenty?
Hasn't been Steph curse thirty six years old? So I mean,
he's right, but he's not. Lebron's forty going to be
forty one.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Right, right?
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Rogers put my point. But I think there.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Comes a time like Steph's not there yet, right If
he started at twenty two, He's got fourteen years, fifteen
years something like that, so he not.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
It's about how you act. It's about how you act,
and it's how you interact with the media. It's about
how you interact with your teammates, about how you interact
with everybody else the other Tim Duncan, I'm not exactly
sure how long his career was, but when it was
time for him to go and he and he retired,
nobody that year was like, man, if we don't Tim
Duncans just got to get out of the league.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
That wasn't the case.
Speaker 5 (08:44):
But like the idea that Lebron right now is kind
of being disingenuous, like you locked in for this fifty
one point three or whatever point six million dollars option
and now are playing basically the same playbook. It feels
at least it could be the same paybook that we've
seen several times throughout his career, and at a certain
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point in time there's an annoyance of dude. Sometimes only
the top of the guys at the top can do this,
and I'd say Lebron is no longer necessarily at the top.
But you also have to understand the market around you,
where if you're the Lakers, you're one hundred percent about
to build around Luca Dontons, who you just traded for,
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Like guys only twenty five years old, you had the
Anthony Davis Lebron era you traded away one of those pieces,
and just even if it wasn't Luca, if it wasn't
five times all NBA, if it wasn't a finals appearance
before twenty six years old, if it wasn't that you
broke up the pairing that you built to win championships
to bring in somebody else. Generally, you're gonna build around
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the new piece unless you're unless you're just you know,
tanking to try to get a new draft pick.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
I think Lebron also hurts himself the longer he plays
and doesn't win. I do because you thought to look,
could the years piling up and you still have the
four championships and you start looking around and you say, well,
Steph has that you know, like it's not special, Like
if he plays twenty four or twenty five years, right,
I don't know. Could he play two more years but
he got twenty Yeah, but.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
That still doesn't take away to me the way he
was able to play at his prime.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Yeah, but it's not the same prime.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
And I'm gonna say this because people talk about his numbers.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Look at his plus minus. He was like one of
the worst players. So I get it.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
It's easier to score in the NBA than ever before.
So when you look at his numbers, they're inflated. They're
not like real numbers to me, because everybody can score
and you can't play defense against people, you can't touch people.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
So Lebron is able to score. I don't have that issue.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
But if you're looking at plus minus and what he
does on the last year, he was like one of
the worst players in the league, even in the playoffs.
I think he was minus fifty three when he was
on the court. So what is this real impact? Not
just looking at raw numbers you think he's the same
players he was ten years ago.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
No, but that's not what I said. I said, what's
happening right now doesn't invalidate ten years ago.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
I'm not validating any conference on lock. Well, he had
no other everybody else was on his team. Who was
it in the way.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
He was in the Eastern Conference finals for a decade
like he had the Eastern Conference on lock. That doesn't
change what's happening right now, doesn't change that to me,
at least, it doesn't invalidate that.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
To me, I'm not I didn't say validate anything. I'm
just saying I don't think he's the same player.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
He's not ten years old. That's not expecting him to
be the same.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
What people look at the numbers and they keep saying
twenty five and eight, you know, like Kelvin and I
argue all the top. Kelvin doesn't look at anything else
other than those numbers, and he says, oh, well, Lebron
is one of I think he said, one of the
top ten players in the league.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
I don't think he is.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
Well, he's definitely not one of the worst players in
the league. With what you said, he's not probably not
one of the top seven players in the league. I
can hear an argument for ten, But the idea where
he's like one of the worst players I can't get with.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
That's the issue is it's the fifty one million dollars.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
If Lebron was playing for fourteen million dollars the mid
level exception, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Yeah, I just I think Lebron probably should have bowed
out already. But I get it with the son, he
wanted to hang around for that and that was one
of his reasonings. And now as you go forward, it
just seems weird to me that you would want to
stick around and then you know, take all the money.
(12:30):
And I'm just saying he's entitled to whatever he wants,
But what is the motivation?
Speaker 3 (12:35):
What is he playing for?
Speaker 1 (12:36):
If you don't have a chance to win, and you're
that age and your idea is more than anything, you
were chasing this Michael Jordan ghost of trying to get
to six championships, That's what I don't understand.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
Well, he's playing for the fifty one million dollars that
would be enough to get me to lay them up
one more time to make all get them.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
But I'm talking about the playing without wouldn't you want
to have a chance to win at this age He's
a billionaire.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
I'm not pulling the money.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Anybody else I would tell you should always take the
money and play for it. But when you get to
this level, to me, it can't be just oh, I
want a fifty one million dollar payroll because payday.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Here's the other thing.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Nobody in the league is interested in Lebron James. Despite
his numbers, No one's at that at that figure.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
Yeah, that's the figure that's you said, despite his numbers,
The number that matters is the fifty one million.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
If Lebron that's kind of where it gets.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
To the all right, Rich Paul, you come up with
this statement, all right, rolled my eyes at this because
you could have opted out, and sure, nobody has massive
cap space. Nobody was gonna sign up for fifty one
million dollars. But there's plenty of mid level of mid
level exceptions out there, both taxpayer and non taxpayer, that
he could be on a different team right now if
he wanted to be.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Yeah, yeah, just it's a price tag. Absolutely, people would
have taken him for a decent price. But I see
where he I don't see him going anywhere. I don't
see how he could possibly be anywhere but the Lakers
because of that price tag.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
So do you think this just gut is this his
last year? I no, I don't just gut reaction. I'm
not no lean know anything. I don't think it's his
last year unless they go on like some magical run.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
If I put it like this, if he's not a Laker,
it's definitely not his last year. Okay, all right?
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven
nine nine.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Six sixty three sixty nine. Are you tired of Lebron?
Speaker 6 (14:37):
Like?
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Seriously? Athletes? Do you like it when they hang on
and play as long as they can. Are you from
that school, the old school of they gotta rip the
uniform off of me? Or do you think that there's
a time and you should know when it's time to
bow out? To get tired of the same stories, tired of
talking about somebody?
Speaker 3 (14:55):
You know?
Speaker 1 (14:55):
For two decades, we're still talking about the same guy.
And I remember when Tom Brady retire as far as
the media, it was great, like, can we move on
to somebody else now and talk about somebody else? It
had gotten to the point where it's absolutely ridiculous. I
feel the same here with Lebron. But all right, eight seven,
seven ninety nine on Fox, we want to hear from you.
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Where are you Lebron players? Sticking around too long? Should
they know when it's time to bounce out or not?
It is The Odd Couple on a Funky Flashback Friday,
Rob Parker Martin Wei's in for Kelvin Washington right here
on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
Stick and stay unless you aren't tired of Lebron James,
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Speaker 1 (16:21):
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Rob Parker, Martin Weiss and for Kelvin Washington. And Yes,
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Speaker 1 (17:02):
All right, eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox talking
about players athletes with shelf lives. Brady, of course, was
around for a long time. Lebron has reached that point,
Aaron Rodgers, where are you should Lebron these guys just
bow out at some point? Or should they play until
they rip the uniform off? KC and Oregon? You're on
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the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
What's up? KC?
Speaker 8 (17:28):
Hey, sup, guys, thanks for working today. You guys are
keeping me entertained while he's right.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
My man, you dog gotta be here for UKC always.
Speaker 9 (17:36):
Well.
Speaker 8 (17:37):
I appreciate that, but not only am I tired of Lebron, Guys.
I'm kind of getting tired of Rob Pelink. It's time
he grows up there and maybe trade Lebron to Golden
State for Cominga or to Cleveland for Darius Garland. You
gotta start building around Luca or are you gonna wait
his prime years? It's just he's holding organization hostage.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
All right. I will say Rob Polinka has been riding
the wave well.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
But they have a new owner now, so that might change. God,
I switch up. I think that will switch up. He
didn't pay ten billion dollars to let somebody else, you know,
nobody pays that much money to keep thinking, keep.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Thinking the same. It doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Uh, Doug in Illinois, you're on the odd couple of
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
What's up, Doug?
Speaker 6 (18:22):
Hey, how you guys doing today?
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Doing great? Thanks for calling in on this fourth of July.
We appreciate you, hey man, thanks for being here.
Speaker 10 (18:30):
I listened to this show every single day. This is
right before I go to work, so I sit in
my car for an hour listening to you guys every
day going to work. So I appreciate you guys a
bunch man.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Thank you.
Speaker 9 (18:41):
Hey.
Speaker 6 (18:41):
I just wanted to.
Speaker 10 (18:42):
Put in a little bit with Lebron and I'll say
what I gotta.
Speaker 6 (18:46):
Say, then let you guys talk about it.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Okay.
Speaker 10 (18:47):
Do you guys think it has more to do with
his I think Lebron has a really large need for attention,
for that recognition, and I just think when he retires,
I don't know where he thinks he will will get that.
So I think there's a large part of that when
I look at it, where basketball is who he is
and he wants that attention. What do you guys think?
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Okay, I think there's always a piece of that when
you've had that kind of been on that kind of
platform and you know where you're going to get that
from anywhere else not at the same level.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
And I believe it's applied to drugs celebrities.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
It's it's a level of to me, your athlete mortality
is something that you have to come to terms with,
and especially Lebron. Yeah, to think about it, Lebron has
identified his entire life as not only a great basketball player,
but one of the best, the best player on his
team until what six months ago, you know what it
was seven months ago, Like when they traded for Luca.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
It happened. It happens in this business too.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
I mean, there are a lot of guys who just
will not retire because they grow that this is who
they are and they stick around and they there's so
many guys working in their seventies. It's just amazing, you
know what I mean, especially with social media. You can
be working in nobody paying you. Dre in Michigan. You're
on the odd couple. Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Drake?
Speaker 9 (20:09):
What's going on? Y' all right? How you I'm doing good?
Robert because I gotta call you Robert because you ain't
even asking my calls, lady.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Man, man, you know what you've baby been trying to
get through. We've just been busy, that's all, you know, how, But.
Speaker 9 (20:21):
Don't forget about the day once I'm about to lie down.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
I'm from mathachuonts come nah, stop it stopping?
Speaker 9 (20:29):
Hey, No, but look, I don't have a problem with Lebron, man, Dude,
that'd be like me telling you, man, you're sick, you
need to retire. No, you're still good at what you do.
You're still doing it at a high level.
Speaker 10 (20:39):
You dedicated most of.
Speaker 6 (20:40):
Your life to your craft.
Speaker 9 (20:41):
So who am I to push you out the door
to say?
Speaker 6 (20:43):
Oh, now, if he was doing ten.
Speaker 9 (20:45):
Two and two, Okay, Yeah, Lebron is trying to hang
it up, but you know, the man still producing second
NBA or NBA. How we gonna fought that. I think
the problem with Lebron is that he's always been the
system but now he's too old to be the system.
But he's still a very good player, so it's not
why he's doing the viz Carter was Kevin Willis or somebody.
You know, he's still balding I was in twenty five
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and whatever. He just don't impact the game.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
To say exactly, Drey, that's true. Thanks for the call.
Happy for I appreciate you. How about Cameron in LA.
You're in the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Cameron?
Speaker 11 (21:20):
Hey, good afternoon guys.
Speaker 9 (21:22):
Yeah, Joe, Happy fourth of July.
Speaker 6 (21:25):
Tou too, Thanks for having me on the show.
Speaker 11 (21:28):
I've been getting very frustrated with this like constant insistence
that like Lebron should hang it up, as though you know,
he's not still an incredible player, and as though it's
not like incredible to be in the presence of this
type of player.
Speaker 6 (21:43):
We're witnessing the.
Speaker 11 (21:44):
NBA's all time leading scorer, who was one of the
greatest young.
Speaker 6 (21:47):
Players ever, one of the greatest old players ever.
Speaker 11 (21:49):
I understand, you know, he's got an ego. I understand
he's been to his own detriment in terms of winning
sometimes with taking these contracts and stuff. You know, there
aren't like a lot of great criticisms of Lebron James,
but at the end of the day, he's one of the.
Speaker 10 (22:03):
Greatest basketball players ever.
Speaker 11 (22:04):
It's not the greatest, okay, and I think that it's
special to just like I don't know, I don't think
that we should be trying to shoot these all time.
Speaker 6 (22:12):
Great athletes out the door.
Speaker 11 (22:13):
You know, no one was mad when Tiger Woods came
back and won the Masters a few years ago.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
You know, yeah, but people are disappointed on what's happened
since then.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
But all I appreciate the call real quick.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Andrea, Massachusetts, you're on the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Thank you Dre for calling on fourth of July. What's up?
Speaker 6 (22:30):
How you doing?
Speaker 12 (22:31):
Happy forth to July. Thanks for taking a call. Shout
out to Dre in Michigan. Yes, so far of the
country you know got in and you know, gave this takes.
But I'm going to concur with the previous callers. But
Lebron most certainly does love the attention, and he's very
much embedded in the attention economy. Right he's making hundreds
of millions up there, billions of dollars right being in
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that attention capital of Los Angeles. So that's why I
think he's holding on it. It's twofold, wants to play
with his sons, he likes playing basketball. What are you
going to do sit on the beach and abvisa. It's
not the same. It's not the same energy. And also
his business interests are very much vested in what he's
going to do post basketball as a moving movie mogu,
getting into social justice, all those other type of things.
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So for he's staying for a number of different reasons.
I think it's just not it's not all about basketball
right now. He has these other interests that he's trying
to keep putting forward, and they're all accelerated by the
fact that.
Speaker 6 (23:26):
He's Lebron James on the Lakers.
Speaker 12 (23:27):
It's not going to be the same Michael Jordan can
make one hundreds of millions of dollars with his air Jordan's,
but we don't see him every day for the Chicago Books.
Speaker 6 (23:34):
You don't have that same impact.
Speaker 10 (23:36):
So he's aware of that.
Speaker 6 (23:37):
Happy forward.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Thanks taking the call, yep, thank you, dre appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (23:40):
In a minute, we'll have Alan Lee, Fox Sports Radio
contributor coming up. In just a second, But for now,
let's go ahead and kick it over to Steve Di sager.
No one is tired of Steve di Sager. I guarantee
that well.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
No vote has been taken.
Speaker 13 (23:52):
Let's start with the holiday scoreward in Major League Baseball,
end of one at Cleveland, the Guardians not only on
the board, but ending a drought at the flight. Jose
Ramirez not only got on base, he had a solo
homer for Cleveland in the first inning. They're up one
nothing on Detroit after one. Also among the evening games
in progress, the Rangers now have a two to nothing
lead at San Diego in the bottom of the fourth,
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Trevor Simeon with a two run double and Marcus Simeon.
And by the way, we have Angels at Blue Jays
scoreless bottom of the second. But a lot of finals
from today, including the game at Wrigley Field where the
Cubs hit eight home runs, a franchise record. My Michael
Bush had three of them, eleven to three. The final
Cubs over Saint Louis. Cardinals only had three hits in
the game at Seattle. Two more home runs from Cal Rawley,
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the All Star catcher with thirty five this year. Six nothing.
Mariners shut out Pittsburgh Minnesota on a solo homer bottom
of the ninth edge Tampa Bay four to three. Cincinnati
won nine to six at Philadelphia, while the Mets got
a home win against the Yankees six to five, so
the Mets second in the NL East, just a half
game behind Philadelphia. Jeff McNeil a key two run homer
in the seventh for the lead the loss to Luke
(24:57):
Weaver Aaron Judge with his thirty second home, but the
Yankees have lost five straight. Boston won the early game
eleven to two at Washington. Among the late games, the
Dodgers going for a fifth straight win, start up in
an hour and a half at home, starting the weekend
series against Houston.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
The w NBA is off.
Speaker 13 (25:14):
Caitlin Clark will miss a fifth straight game Saturday with
the groin injury. Carlos Alcarez advanced to the fourth round
at Wimbledon, and women's number one Arena Sablenka also won.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Back to You All Right, we are the odd Couple.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Fox Sports Radio on a funky Flashback Friday, Rob Parker,
Martin Weiss in for Kelvin Washington and now let's welcome
in Alan Lee, a Fox Sports radio contributor, played little
minor league baseball in his day. Alan, welcome to the
odd couple. What's happening, Hey.
Speaker 6 (25:48):
Not much fellas. You guys get some barbecue today, you
know your tummy's full.
Speaker 5 (25:53):
Not yet, that'll be that'll be Pels show for me. Yes,
But right now watching Detroit Tigers and Jose Ramirez, this barbecue,
the ball to the upper deck. They trailing the Guardians
one to nothing. But Tigers have been one of the
best teams, if not the best team in the American
League all regular season thus far up to this point.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Is this real or is this a bad division?
Speaker 6 (26:18):
You know, you have to really ask that question. I know,
before the season started, all the fan base kept saying,
you know what, not spending any money hawking this team
be any good.
Speaker 9 (26:27):
It's ridiculous.
Speaker 6 (26:27):
Look how far we got last year, and guys have
just been coming through off season long for the Tigers.
I mean, did you ever think that you would actually
see Hobby bay As at an All Star Game? Again?
Speaker 3 (26:39):
No? No that now.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
First of all, Byron Buxton should have been the starting
center fielder for the American League.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
But two things can be true.
Speaker 5 (26:48):
He shouldn't be the starting center fielder for the All
Star Game.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
But it's also remarkable that he could even be considered
to get the starting No, I get that, but you
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
The year Buston's having you notice all with the glove
and the bad I just got, like center the starting
center fielder for.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
The American League.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
If you had told me last if you to on
me two years ago, the Hovey Bayers would be the
starting centerfield at the All Star I would say they
had a triple A All Star You said, Toledo.
Speaker 6 (27:13):
Huh, sorry, it's been amazing. And you know, the Tigers
just have these guys with a lot of people around
the country. Probably you have no idea about Riley Green
is one of the best players in the game.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Made the All Star Game last year.
Speaker 6 (27:25):
Yeah, this guy just continues to just break man. He
is so good and rob you know this talking about
guys in the All Star Game, Labor Torres, did you
ever think that would happen?
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Yep?
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Free agent from the Yankees, and look at what he's doing.
He's having a really good season for the Tigers. He
probably needed Allen a change of scenery from the Bronx because, Uh,
he had his moments, but there was a lot of
bad moments for him as well, So I think that
that has worked out. Speaking of New York, I want
to switch over to the New York Metropolitans.
Speaker 6 (27:55):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
They beat the Yankees today six to five, but they've scuffled,
even with one who's obviously playing better. Now the numbers
don't feel as good. They're close, you know what I
mean to what he did with the Yankees, but it
doesn't feel the same Allen. So far, the Mets have
been disappointing to me.
Speaker 6 (28:13):
Well, you know, if it wasn't for Pete Alonzo, that
guy that almost got away in the off season because
he really kept him afloat for the longest time, he's
having a great season. Eighteen home runs, sixty eight rbives
was yesterday that in two eighty seven. I mean, he's
having quite a year, proven that you know, he's worth
every penny that they didn't want to give him. Really.
Speaker 11 (28:32):
You know.
Speaker 6 (28:32):
The Mets problem, though, Rob really is they got to
get that pitching staff healthy.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Yes, they got to get back.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
They were off to a great start and then the
injuries are piled up.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (28:43):
Singo seven and three on the season, got one point
four to seven ERA, and you know he's got a
hamstring string. Grippin Canning just is coming off with achilles surgery.
You know, Clay Holmes is the guy that's really kept
him a float also, and they're starting rotation.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Alan Lee Fox Sports Radio contrip.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
You're here on the Independence Day joining the odd couple,
and I'm Martin Weiston for Kevin Washington with Rob Parker.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
But talking about Juan Soto.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
Then when the Nationals moved to want Soto, they got
back James Wood, who had a hell of a week right,
intentionally walked four times then five for five last night, which.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
You should say, Martin, nobody had done that.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
They hadn't done that to anybody since Barry Bonds in
what two thousand and.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
Four, So over twenty one years Lebron's career.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
Uh so you got four for five, Yeah, four intentional walks,
five for five, hits his twenty third home run last
night and announces for the All Star home run derby.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Uh is this guy a star in the making?
Speaker 6 (29:41):
There's any doubt about that. I don't think there's any
team in the league that wants to really face this guy.
I mean, he killed the Padres when he went back there.
I think it was last week. And you talk about
that the gifts to keep on giving. You know what
the what Washington got for Soto, j Abrams, Tinthy Gore.
But James Wood is he's.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Got a nice w beautiful and he's another Aaron Judge six,
seven or eight, could have played basketball whatever and chose
baseball and homegrown.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
He's from Maryland, so.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Washington, there's no doubt made out with when it comes
to uh, James Wood, let's go to pitching, school ball
or Skiens.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
I know, school ball obviously school ball.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Now I'm being nice because Schooble won the Triple Crown
and pitching last year right in the American League, right
but but Skeens had an unbelievable rookie season.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Who's the better pitcher or long term verse? Right now? Yeah,
you know what I'm saying verse.
Speaker 6 (30:44):
Right now, I think there isn't a team is a
team in the league that would turn either one of
those guys away. Schemes is suffering from the fact that
the team that he plays for, right, there's no question
about that.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
They don't get any runs for him, right Yeah?
Speaker 6 (30:58):
In school ball, though, it's just on man ten and
two to one.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
R H.
Speaker 6 (31:04):
You know, you put sks what Schemes is for in
ten of this year, you put them on any other
team that you know has a decent lineup and he's
probably killing it as well. But when either one of
those guys' contract is up, oh man, I know.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
And they already said that Schemes doesn't want to talk
extension with the Tigers.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
You know, Scott Boris is we know what the pirates
and why would not Skemes? Uh school you see that
Schoogle says he's not interested in the extension right now?
Why would he? Why would he be? Especially twelve months
ago you were like, should we trade him? Yeah? I
don't think so.
Speaker 6 (31:40):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
But Kyton Kershaw earlier this week he battled it out.
It took him a couple of innings to get to
that third strike, to get to three thousand against.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
The last battery face.
Speaker 5 (31:50):
Listen, and it was going to be the last battery
face because Dave Roberts wanted to pull up before that.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
But he said, everybody bought this ticket.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Today and everybody, his whole family, all teammates, like they
were like, we've got to make the.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
Stack gave up five US. He was getting that third strikeout.
What's his legacy?
Speaker 6 (32:07):
You can see Dave though, yeah, you can see Dave
biting his tongue with Curse got that strikeout in the
last day. He knew I got to put him back
out there. Curse O is the first ballot of Hall
of Fame. But there's no question about it. I mean,
come on, you know people are gonna think of Curse
on some respect and go, well, you know it wasn't
great in the postseason. I don't want to hear that.
(32:28):
There's a number of people in the Hall of Fame
who did not put up great numbers in the postseason.
Got two hundred and sixteen wins. I mean that's a
measuring stick, a lifetime era, A two point five two.
You come on, three thousand strikeouts, not the first ballot
Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Oh no, no, there's no doubt. I mean he's going
to be a first ballot. It's just that when you
think about that, here's the issue, and you just said
it two point five to e RRA regular season, but
his era in the postseason is over four.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
And that's the part that people can't look. You know what,
I mean, when they looking at.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
A this guy was so great, probably the greatest picture
of this generation.
Speaker 6 (33:05):
You know, like, yeah, that question, but the fact that
he's four and oh this season is really shocking me.
I did not expect kurstart to be picking as well
as he had really so far this.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Season, no doubt. No, I'll tell you what he was.
Speaker 6 (33:18):
And Rob, I know you wanted to dog dog by Dodgers,
but I'll have you know you think they're having an
off year. You know what the record was last season
on July fourth, was that they were fifty three and
thirty five. Right now they're fifty six and thirty two.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Yeah, but the difference is this team started out eight
and oh this year, and you got to admit there
was just a patch where it doesn't feel as good
to me from the beginning. You noticed, Allen, when they
started the season, it didn't look like they were gonna
lose any games.
Speaker 6 (33:46):
Oh no, no, no question.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
But you know I'm not I'm just saying the way
that they looked. I mean, I know baseball, but I'm
sixty two and oh, how could they know?
Speaker 6 (33:54):
What?
Speaker 3 (33:54):
I mean?
Speaker 1 (33:54):
They were eight to o and people thought, my god,
this team is unbelievable and then they kind of hit
the But.
Speaker 6 (34:01):
But when you're moving guys around rob on a team,
it sometimes takes a while. You got Mookie in short,
you got Pies in either center or left field, and
he's really come on for them. You Putkale in right field,
and really Tao shouldn't be playing right field because he's
just not that quick enough to be out there. But
that's where he is. You got this whole situation at
second base with Kim and Edmund, you know, And now
(34:24):
I guess Roberts said that Tommy Edmond's gonna start taking
ground as a third base. He has hurt, so that's
going to allow him to get some more playing time.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
That's going to be interesting to see and kind of weird. No,
Mookie bets uh and probably in the All Star right,
he didn't get the.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
If you're the guy you want to worry about on.
Speaker 6 (34:42):
The Dodgers, Yeah, you're the guy you want to worry
about right now on the Dodgers, it's Mookie. Mookie is
not hitting well.
Speaker 5 (34:48):
I would expect him to have a second half, a
big second half. He was sick to start the year,
and the start that's sick.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
This was bad.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Yeah, I think lost yesterday he lost forty or whatever,
thirty pounds was a lost? All right, thanks ellerly appreciate.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
It, buddy, Thank you here man yep ella.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Fox Sports Radio contribute a little baseball talk all right.
Coming up next, we'll do a little Shekel City and
we'll talk about on this fourth of July what's better
a really good hot dog or a really good hamburger.
It is the odd Couple on a funky flashback Friday.
It is fourth of July. Rob Parker, Martin weiss In
for Kelvin Washington. And you know what you need to do,
(35:28):
stick and stay America.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in
the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio
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listen live.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
It is the odd couple Fox Sports Radio, Rob Parker,
Martin weiss In for Kelvin Washington on a funky flashback Friday.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
And you hear this.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Yes, we are live on fourth of July, and uh,
you know what it is.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
It's time for a little Shekel City. I'm beating the
yards again.
Speaker 5 (36:08):
That's my favorite. That's one of my favorite drops of
all the Filance. All right, here we go that and Jonas,
all right, here we go. Fourth of July. Some baseball
coming up. Take the Chicago White Sox minus one and
a half. They are in Colorado taking on the Colorado Rockies.
(36:37):
Take the Dodgers minus one and a half. They host the.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Houston Astros here in Los Angeles. And I'm also gonna
take on the road. I'm gonna take San Francisco. They're
playing in Sacramento taking on the A's, So I'm gonna
take the Giants minus one and a.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
Half as well.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
So again my best bet, I'm gonna take the Giants
over the age. That's the best bet. Minus one and
a half. Taking the Dodgers minus one and a half
against the Astros. And I'm gonna take the White Sox
minus one and a half in Denver taking on the Rockies.
(37:19):
And remember, Martin, I'm not telling you who to bet on.
I'm telling you who I bet on. All right, all right, Uh, it's.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
Fourth of July.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
You haven't had any barbecue or anything yet, but we're talking.
I want to ask you about the hot dog hamburger
debate because I love hamburgers, but there's nothing better than
a hot dog to me, a really good hot dog,
and I'm talking about one hundred percent beef, natural casing.
Do you know what that means? Natural casing? No phony
(37:52):
cony exactly. But when you bite it, it snaps. Have
you had a hot dog when you bite it has
a natural casing on it. It's not like a franc
that costs ten for a dollars ninety nine and very expensive.
That's what we I grew up at on New York
eating some bread hot dogs, which are by far the
(38:13):
best hot dogs ever made. They are so good. Where
are you on the hot dog hamburger debate?
Speaker 5 (38:20):
When you go down to the base model, the hot
dog is superior to the hamburger.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
However, as soon as you.
Speaker 5 (38:28):
Extend past the base your your regular backyard condiments, the
burger clears it by far. As soon as you add
any accoutrement, the burger by far.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
How Govin how about a red onion sauce and spicy
brown mustard in New York from the push carts where
we call them in New York dirty water hot dogs
because the guy with the stand he washes his hands
in the water, you know what I mean, And that's
why they call him dirty water dog.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
Do that nasty.
Speaker 5 (39:03):
Saying, that's what you are arguing against.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
But whatever flavor he has on his hands taste good
like dirty water hot that's what you're.
Speaker 5 (39:13):
Either a dirty water hot dog hot dog or a
double bacon cheeseburger. Well, yeah, I don't eat bacon. Thank you, shake,
don't please, don't disappoint.
Speaker 14 (39:27):
This is one of the only times I'll side with
you right now.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
Goodness.
Speaker 14 (39:30):
I usually can't side with you almost things, but I
signed with you here just because God, we got the
victory dog. You know what the victory dog is. It's
that bacon wrap hot dog with the peppers and the
mustard and the ketchup and the mayo and all that.
That's my go to. That's my go to. But that's pinks.
Speaker 5 (39:48):
That's that's a specialty hot dog.
Speaker 14 (39:52):
But you can say it's a specialty like hamburger. Literally,
that's the stuff that comes on a hamburger. No to
hamburger is a hamburger and like maybe some ketch up
in some mustard.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
That was what I said.
Speaker 5 (40:05):
You take it down to the base levels, hot dog clears,
but as soon as you start adding some extras.
Speaker 14 (40:09):
But I'm saying that when I add the bacon, and
I add the peppers, and I add everything else.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
To the hot, I take the hot. You know, Shay,
you're a big Dodger fan. What's the biggest thing out there?
The Dodger dog not a Dodger.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
Like Hamburger, Dodger. Hamburger's a Dodger dog.
Speaker 5 (40:24):
I'm the biggest issue with this is nobody's breaking Hamburgers
in half and dunking them in lemonade and trying to
swallow them down.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
That's where you lose a couple of hour number two
Burger clears. By the way,
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