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Speaker 3 (03:40):
All right.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
We are joined now by Charlie White Senior, four time
Super Bowl champion coach you already know that, and of
course Charlie White Senior on socials.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Charlie, how you doing.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
I'm doing wonderful. How are you guys doing good?
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Coach, good to hear from you doing great.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
I want to get it. I was gonna say, I
want to get into something. I just mentioned your Twitter
handle because you put out something. Let me jump in
the dolorey in and go back in time a little
bit here, Charlie and Ephraim, you put out something here, coach.
Let me say this before Senior Bowl Week starts. I
have watched every snap of Jackson Dark for the last
three years plus have seen his leadership and approach off
(04:19):
the field. By next Monday, he will be considered a
first round pick. It's easy to wait to make that call,
not necessary.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
You saw it early, you were a profit on this.
What did you see there?
Speaker 1 (04:34):
And obviously play old miss your son is a part
of that team there, that staff. What made you jump
out and say that so early and really jump the
gun and be ahead of a lot of people.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
Well, my son isn't just part of the staff. He's
the offensive coordinator and a quarterback coach. And then I
watched him for three years. And I watched this kid
from the day he got there to the day he left.
And you know, I think I have a clue when
it comes to quarterbacks in the NFL. I think I
have a clue. I mean, there's a lot of people
(05:04):
who know more than me, but I think I understand
what it takes from and I watched this kid on
and off the field. I'm not trying to act like
I had any really insight other than my first conversation
with him. My first conversation with him. I'm sitting in
the summertime his first year when he transferred from the
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USC I'm sitting in the back of the quarterback room.
I'm just watching. At the end, he comes up to
me and says, can I have a couple of minutes
with you? And I said yeah, sure. He goes, what's
the difference between a good quarterback and a great quarterback
in the NFL? And I said, look at I'm not
going to leave. I'll leave the football stuff to Lane
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and Charlie. I'll let them talk about that. But I'll
tell you what I witnessed from watching a young young
guy by name of Tommy Brady and watching how he
handled it from being a four team quarterback to a
second team quarterback, to a starting quarterback to a legendary quarterback.
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And I'll just tell you what I observed him do,
not what I told him to do, what I observed
him do, and apparently everything that everything that you know
in that conversation we had, he did it at Ole
mess and he's doing it again with the Giants. I mean,
I was up there last week. I spent the week
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with the Giants, you know, inside the building. I'm not
talking about watching. I was inside meeting rooms. I was
in the offensive meetings. I was in the quarterback meetings
and it's the same stuff all over again. And I
think that the kid has a legitimate chance of being
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the guy for the New York Giants. A legitimate chance.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
So with that, coach A from salam here. With that,
my question to you is.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
By the way, after and you were a really good player.
I thank you people. So people are listening right now
that don't realize you're a good player. You're a really
good player.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Okay, I appreciate that, coach.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
It's always good when you get the other coaches, you know,
let you know, because they watch they know everything.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
My uh, my question to you is uh saying that
about Jackson Dart and and what's going on? Do you
see when do you see him really taking over the
helm from Russell Wilson? And I'm gonna put you on
the spot right right right now, but just you've been
in the building, so what do you see and when
do you see him being able to step into that
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that lead position at starting quarterback for the Giants?
Speaker 5 (07:45):
Okay, I'm going to give you two answers to that. Okay, Okay,
the first answer, if you're if you're with the Giants,
you want Russell Wilson to play great. I mean, to
start up the year you wanted to play great. You know,
you want to go from an also ran to a
playoff caliber team in one year. Your defense is loaded, okay,
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and the biggest down trod down, trodden things on the
offense where the offensive line and the quarterback play. So
let mean, if they improve the offensive line in the
quarterback play, and the defense plays as a top five
type of defense, you know you've got a chance to
be a playoff caliber team. So from the Giants perspective
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and for any fan of the Giants, you want Russell
Wilson to do well. Now I'm obviously a Jackson Dart homer, okay,
but that doesn't mean that I'm rooting for Jackson Dark
to replace Russell Wilson until it's time. Well, let's be practical, Okay, Now,
let's be practical. You look at their schedule. I mean,
the first half of their schedule is brutal. Think about it.
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You go on a road against Washington, you go on
a road against Dallas, then you come home against Kansas
City and the Chargers. I mean, now, let me ask
you if I asked you on the road against Washington.
Who's the favorite?
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Commanders, Commanders, Yes.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
Who's the favorite on the road against Dallas?
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Dallas?
Speaker 5 (09:15):
Okay, they're coming home against the Chiefs. Who's Okay, Now,
I'm already giving you the first spot where this this
could happen. So if you start off the year, I mean,
you had a crummy year last year. If you start
up the year oh and three, and you got this
guy that the fans now are begging for him to
(09:37):
be in there, you you you can hear it now, right, yeah?
Oh three boo? We would we would? I mean you
could see that as the first point I got from
the Giant perspective. They hope that they're not playing them
at all, or playing them towards the end of the year.
But realistically, there are certain spots in the year that
(09:59):
make sense as early as Game four, could be as
late as Game fourteen, I mean, so it could be
somewhere along alone, somewhere along those lines. So you know, yeah,
you have to look at it from both aspects. The
aspect of okay, what would the Giants really want? As
much as I love Jackson Dark, the Giants fans and
(10:22):
the Giants organization should be rooted for Russell Wilson to
still have some juice left. That's what they should be
rooting for.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Absolutely, you know.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
So I mean it's a catch twenty two, you know.
I you know, I obviously am rooting for Jackson, but
I also because my affinity. I grew up a Giant fan.
I coached for the Giants. Davill was a was a
low level assistant under me with when I was in
New England. I mean, obviously I'm rooting for the rooting
for them to do well. Okay, So I have to
(10:52):
give you two answers, not one. I apologize for being evasive,
but I'm.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Also I get you.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
It made a lot of sense our guest four time
Super Bowl champion coach, we're talking about Jackson Dart. I
want to stay with quarterbacks, so it'd switch a little bit.
I want to go to the number one pick. A
couple of years back, Heisman winner and Caleb Williams. It's
to me, I was saying the other day Coach that
depending on how it's one of those confirmation biased things.
However you viewed Caleb Williams was exactly how you can
(11:20):
still view him coming out of that rookie campaign. Meaning
if you were optimistic about him, You thought he was great.
You said, look, he was doing this with bad coaching.
He guys roled. You know, that wasn't the greatest team.
Look what he's going to do now, Or you could
say I expected more. I thought it, you know, and
I wanted more from him. What he's supposed to be.
Where do you come out on Kayler Williams and now
with Ben Johnson, what are your expectations?
Speaker 5 (11:40):
Well, look at Caleb his junior year, Look at him
a senior year. I mean, his junior year, he's a
husband trumphy guy. His senior year, he's just ducking for cover.
I mean, so now I gets to Chicago, which was
a fire drill, as we all know. Now, I don't
know Ben Johnson personally, but I do know he's got
(12:03):
a great reputation on offense. So he's got to forget
about the opfensive coordinator, forget about everybody else. Just realized
that when Ben Johnson got hired from the by the Bears,
why did he get hired to make sure he got
the quarterback fixed. Okay, so if there's one player out
of the entire team, if there's one player that you
(12:27):
could expect a meteoric rise. It should be Caleb. And
you know I remember Caleb from when he was thinking
about transfering. You know, hey, his final two schools were
USC and Old Miss, And my kid was that Old Miss.
So I mean, I go all the way back there.
One of the reasons why Jackson Dart went from US
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to Ole Miss was Caleb went to USC.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
So you know, I know.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
From back then. But I have a lot of confidence
in Ben Johnson and his coaching ability. I have a
lot of confidence in Caleb's ability, and I think that
put the two of them together and you got a
chance of having a legitimate, positive, positive result.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Well, we're looking forward to see what actually happens to
be some some good football that that NFC North is
gonna be a tough division.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
That is. Coach, We appreciate your time. Thank you so much.
Appreciate your coach.
Speaker 5 (13:18):
You got it. Take care of a good one all
right now.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
He was breaking it down right there. Yeah, I love it,
you know you staying with the guy like that all day. Selfishly,
I know, you know, he was he had great. I
take more compliments too, you know, sometimes you just it's
so far. I want to be so far removed from playing,
you just forget. Like my kids have never seen me play,
(13:41):
so they're like, whatever, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
So it's good. It's good. You were good. It's good,
and we all need that from time to time.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Sometimes, you know what you're doing a heck of a
job here, just like you're doing rob g phenomenal job.
Robgie gets a lot. Robbie and Alyx get the most.
I even told our balls about them in the meeting
they were in while I was they were he.
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Was five feet away from the boss. By the way.
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I don't know if they can hear you, but they
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take care of them.
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Make sure you don't just let you know what show
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Steve not in, he's not.
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It's Look. She came to work to work. Yeah, she
just in there talking, just learning their lips.
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Everybody's doing a wonderful job here, Manzi, she's okay, she's
doing she's average, she's doing okay.
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I'll answer that on the other side. Wait a minute,
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Diaka but kelvin Washington E for Salam who is in
for Rob Parker on a worship Wednesday, Alex dropping some
heat writing I like this one. Darra fell on the
way in about six or seven minutes or so. We'll
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them nothing. All right, Rob g Alex, what was your question?
You asked me something crazy? My headphones weren't working, so
the question, if I was my headphones, DJ Alex, heishould said,
(16:18):
was since you speak so highly of us as a
duo ephrom, did you said that we are the best
in the business, that you told our.
Speaker 9 (16:25):
Boss Scott Shapiro about it during the meeting? Would it
be worth it to you to cut twenty thousand dollars
ten apiece for each of us off your annual salary
to keep us so we don't leave.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Where y'all going? Yeah, where y'all going? That's a did
the worst?
Speaker 4 (16:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Oh, Survivor is one of them by the phone, so yeah,
even watch how do this watch how to do this either. Okay,
so number one, Alex doesn't need money. I live off
the land, and money is what corrupted the world. Oh
Alexey Rob g I think your set based off some family.
I think you all right. Yeah he married money, Yeah,
(17:03):
he married he married money. He's okay, Yeah he's good.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
So y'all y'all good. So ultimately I think y'all are good.
Y'all good. You know what you take the twenty he's good. Now.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
If Rob Parker and even though he looked at me
and was like, dub, we gotta do it, man, we
gotta split it, you know what I mean? Then I'll
be like, all right, man, we gotta figure something out.
Or you could just give it to me and you know,
make me the yo. Got enough money what you're talking about.
I'm over your producer movie. First of all, I gave
you that money. I need to be I want to
be an investor in something. Okay, that's his conversation. We
(17:36):
can have all. I want to just give you that money. No, no, no, no,
I don't want to take money. I wouldn't want to
be in business. Yeah, then that's a different conversation, you too,
money over here. I'm actually shocked from din to hit
you with the y'all better do something else. We all
got choices. Choices, Hey, everybody harder in high school, guys.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Look at that. Everybody got choices. Hey man, tenth grade.
You know what, I will say, doubles. At least you're honest.
Speaker 9 (18:02):
Because Alex asked Rob Parker this exactly four years ago,
and Rob's like, yeah, yeah, of course. Of course, next
contract when it's up in about a year, we'll take
care of you.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Never been taking crickets, been four years crickets.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
I just took care of you, Roger. You did.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
We did easily get that. And that was we're gonna
talk about that. That was instantaneous. No, you know, my
favorite Rob Parker, and I'm pulling the curtain way back.
So this was you would have premptive.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Come on, Rogie.
Speaker 9 (18:31):
This was about a year ago. I remember asking someone
for a raise. Man, I think I need think more money.
He's like, yeah, yeah, you do. You're you're really good.
I think you deserve that. You know, shows a hit,
you should definitely ask for one. And I asked for
one and they're like, hey, company just don't got money
right now. We can't really give you a raise. I
tell Rob, and Rob had just told me the week before. Yeah,
I got a raise on my contract. He's like, well,
you know it is tough out there, rogie. Not everybody
(18:54):
got money.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Oh you almostling, junior. Oh man, he hit you with
the yes a little tight right now. You could have
came two weeks earlier. I might have had. I just
got what you were asking. Yeah right, they just gave
it to me. No, listen, you already know one thing
(19:16):
I like to do. I take you know, you look out.
You know I'm gonna take care of a person. You
look out for me. I take care of you. You
know that. And you two are so great. And I've
told you this that I believe when something big is coming.
And Eat from Salam has a massive new thing happening
where he's this venture takes off or the Kelvin TV
(19:39):
show spectrum.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
I'm not leaving anywhere now. Let me get in the spectrum.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
You know they be listening, like, and I need to
pull some people to make this big, massive thing happen.
You two know you're already on the list. I can't
be pulled. You can't pull me too, No, you too busy?
What you're talking about, I can make time for you.
You have forty two things. Hey, man, not to mention
your coaching and whatnot. I'm not coaching anymore. I'm just
(20:02):
a spectator, man, I'm just an uber driver. You will
and it doesn't matter. All this. We said all this
to say that, not if it matters, because we already
feel figured out what Alex is about to do. Oh yeah,
he's about to be on some reality TV game show
type stuff.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
And I can't believe you. How do you live in
the LA area and have never done that?
Speaker 1 (20:21):
You're anything You're told this is one of the you
know what, I'm gonna say this, and I know we
got Manti coming over here. Yeah, she's over there practice
in Oscar Dala Hoya ten times. Let's go to da Hoya,
she said the way she said, he was like what Oscar.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Like, huh?
Speaker 1 (20:40):
This is always both You're you're from southern southern southern California, right.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
But what blew me away coming here moving here was
how many people. And I think it's the.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
I don't want to say the downfall, but just being
here is just home, Like you don't even look at it.
Hollywood is just home because I've been blown away since
I've been here. How many people who are even in
this industry, in all different capacities, whether you're board, engineer,
extraordinary like Alex or on air, who don't explore every
opportunity here. That's that's why I have forty things that I.
Speaker 6 (21:15):
Like.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Alex has lived here. He's got the look.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
He looks like a ponytail, He's got abs, He's smart.
He's mad because if you say something about money, he
knows all the answers. If you bring them food, he knows.
He barely wants to sit next to Rob Jeekes. Rob,
he's taking an easy way out, and so you can
go away. You didn't audition for some show, never Spark show.
(21:39):
I used to host a show and NBC Spartan Ultimate
Team Channels. You totally are one of the persons on
the team there.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
That'd be fun. Could you do obstacle? Did you do
ninja word? I would love to be my manager.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Pick you got to pick one. I say survivor for
you something?
Speaker 3 (21:58):
What should I do?
Speaker 10 (22:00):
Could you really do ninja worry?
Speaker 3 (22:01):
That's what I mean like those It's not that you
can it's a one time the cat. It's about the
whole thing. Yeah, but like.
Speaker 10 (22:09):
The strength you need with your fingers to like it's
the edges of things.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
I've only been doing col stanks for the last four months,
so I would be pretty good.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Aroun Now here's my here's my thing, Alex. I think
Ninja Warrior. If I said Alex twenty twenty seven, you'd
be beyond like that. You'd be ready for that, whereas
Survivor you're ready for that now.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Yes, right, you get fast for two weeks, easy, fast.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Eat whatever, get your psych your mind up to understand
that the sun is really I know it's hot, but
it's not hot.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
If you don't believe this, it's not hot, like you
would totally be that. So we figured out your life.
Let's do it.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Yeah, your life was easy. Rob g Costco's calling. You
can be the front man there. I can't be pool.
You're gonna you're gonna film the all of this, yes,
and make it all work. This should be its own reality.
I'm well on YouTube now, so we are on YouTube.
Odd couple FSR. Make sure you look that up and
you can't pull me to stick out fast. You already
(23:01):
got that that fast. Maybe this is a calling. Never
mind I take it back, no survivor for you, Alex.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
All right, mate for trending.
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Speaker 1 (23:22):
You would have thought it was Lakers Warriors with like
matter of fact, no more like Lakers Celtics.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
But he's not playing. What is that doing too? If
you can hear the building, you can hear the wind
for sure. Listen. I like the sparks and everything they
got going.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
But if you went to see Kaitlin Clark and she's
not there, that's not gonna be it.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
All right, it is the couple.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Thank you, Manzi kelvin Washington, E from Salam who's in
for Rob Parker. On this worship Wednesday, we got Dan Rafael,
longtime boxing reporter Fight Freaks Unite on substack Dan Rafayel
one on AX.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Dan. What's up you doing? Man?
Speaker 4 (24:01):
Hey guys, I would bl I think we've got a
lot to talk about, don't we.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Oh, yes we do.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
We want to talk to you about so Shador Sanders
Yeah no, yeah, we uh about twelve hours ago?
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Maybe you know some quiet things.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Obviously you got Canelo and uh Bud coming up as well,
but man, boom, we get dropped with this one. You
got Jake Paul and Tank Davis getting ready to fight
in November.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
So let's just start right there.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
It's an exhibition, but Vegas I believe, has it at
uh minus one eighty for Tank.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Is this going to be a real fight? Is this
gonna be a money grab?
Speaker 8 (24:34):
What?
Speaker 3 (24:34):
What are we what are we getting here?
Speaker 4 (24:36):
Well, two things can be true at the same time. Yeah,
it's absolutely one hundred thousand percent of money grab. But
you know, these two guys supposedly are gonna come to fight.
It's an exhibition technically, but that doesn't mean that they're
It just won't go on their official records. Uh And
so I guess they'll be in there trying to win,
you know, quote unquote win. I guess they'll be judges.
If it does go the route ten rounds, I'm still
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u not sure. And that's not been described by the
people who are putting us on as what the weight
parameters will be. Because one of the reasons why weight
classes exist is for a reason because you know, there's
such a disparity between the two two guys. It's one
thing for a future Hall of Famer by Terrence Crawford,
a seasoned, veteran professional four division world champion, to move
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up two weight classes and take on at Canelo Alvarez,
who's also a four division world champion in future Hall
of Famer. From a skill level perspective, they're very similar
accomplishments and all that. The weight's obviously difference. It's a
totally different ballgame here. You have Tank Davis, you know,
a top level professional who's the one of the champions
in the lightweight division, weigh one hundred and thirty five pounds,
going to take on Jake Paul, who is not nearly
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that level of experience or or skill level, but he's
a two hundred pounds man. When he fought Mike Tyson
last fall, he bulked all the way up to two
hundred and twenty seven. So if you take them at
their normal fighting weight, two hundred for Jake Paul, one
thirty five for Tank Davis, you're talking about sixty five pounds.
I mean, even a guy who's sixty five pounds last
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with some skill, and Jake does have some skill, may
not be at the level of a Tank Davis or
a you know, a pound for pound elite, but that
that could be a problem for Tank Davi's not to mention,
by the way, Tank is like five foot five stands
then on a phone book right right. Jake Paul is
about you know, is about six feet tall. It's a
it's a much different viewpoint in terms of the height
of these two guys. Also, so Jake has all the
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physical attributes. And even though Tank's a great puncher out
one hundred and thirty five, I mean, you know, Jake
Paul's got a really good right hand when he punches,
and trust me, if he lands that on a thirty
five pounder, so it's going to you know, whatever he
ends up playing for the fight, it's going to be
a problem.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Let me ask you this is this fight good or
bad for boxing? We had a debate in an argument
earlier about what this means for the state of boxing.
In your opinion, Dan, is this good or bad for boxing?
Speaker 4 (26:56):
I mean, I don't think it's good or bad because
it's a one night stand. That's I look at it
disappointing from We'll put it like this. On the one hand,
it's disappointing I mean, I know what Jake's been doing,
and I've never been a Jake Paul Hayter or a
guy that like, you know, gave him Greek about. I
totally get what he's doing. You know, he wants to
try to build himself up as a boxer. But when
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you get these types of opportunities where you can put
on an event that's such a huge deal and you know,
make you know, crazy amounts of money, I mean, who
could blame him in terms of tank What disappoints me
and I'm not mad at the fight itself, but what
irritates me is that he comes off a fight that
took place back in March where he got a gift
from God to get away with a draw against Lamont
(27:37):
Roach in a fight that he either should have lost
the decision in or should have been disqualified because of
the antics that surrounded the knockdown that occurred that wasn't
called a knockdown, and he invoked his contractual right to
a rematch. He was like the so called A side.
He had the right to a rematch in the event
of a loss or a draw. He exercised that right
to the rematch, and I feel like he's going back
(27:59):
on his word to Lamont roach and he's taking a
money grab against Jake Paul at an exhibition before he
goes and cleans up the mess against the guy that
he left, you know and hanging at the altar for
the last several months. So if that was out of
the way, if he had got the clean win, or
that was not an issue he didn't exercise the rematch,
you know whatever, I would be a little more understanding
(28:20):
from the Tank side of this particular fight. He is
Dan thanks to the question. Though it's good and dad,
but in the end, boxing is boxing. You know, you
can't kill it and then we'll never die.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Dan Rafael our guest here, longtime boxing reporter, Fight freaks,
you unite on substack. Let's go to actual boxing, not
entertainment as he was referring to earlier. When we have
Canelo and Terrence, but Crawford September thirteenth, that's gonna be
the one a lot of people are watching. Earlier I
described it as that's the Phantom Rose Royce and the
Jake Paul and Tank Davis is more like the christ
(28:51):
or three hundred. Let's with this with this fight, how
can it be the thing that the CPR to the
fight game. Can it be the thing that brings it
back to life. Maybe we get at least two out
of it, Maybe we get a trilogy out of it.
Can this be what boxing needed to kind of give
it life again?
Speaker 4 (29:09):
I mean, I don't know about that. I don't know
if I'm going to ever think about this fight in
terms of a trilogy or even a rematch for that matter.
But it's it is two as I and mention earlier
to you know, all time great fighters, two Hall of
Fame level guys, two pounds for pound caliber fighters going
up against each other. It's really about Karence Crawford, who
sort of willed this fight into being had his eye
(29:31):
on Canelo. Really didn't see a big money fighter, a
big name for himself in the well nothing left Formerly
at welter where he became the undisputed champion. He did
have the one fight a Jumorman away where he won
a titles and even though that's a very talented weight class,
there wasn't that big star name. And Crawford is understandably
and he knows this. Everybody knows the same with Canelo.
You know, they're in the twilights of their career. They're
(29:51):
near the end, and so they're making a big event
out of it. So I can't say it's gonna, you know,
bring the boxing game back to life. It's really you know,
it has a lot of problems in the the United
States in a way, it's very healthy in other parts
of the world. But the saving grace both between this
fight between Canelo and Crawford as well as the Jake
Paul and Tank Davis event, is that at least if
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you have mild interest or huge interest for that matter,
it's not going to cost you crazy amounts of money
to buy a pay per view, Like you know, the
prices of pay per view have gone up so dramatically
now it's normal to be like eighty bucks. It wouldn't
have surprised me if they had a Canelo Crawford caliber
fight if they charge one hundred bucks for it, like
did did years ago for packing out against Mayweather. So
the good thing is that those two events are both
(30:33):
on Netflix, and if you just subscribe, like you know,
hundreds of millions of people around the world, do it
just part of your subscription, the same way you're watching
whatever movie you're interested or whatever original series you're interested
or whatever documentary. It just part of the package. So
that's a that's a good thing. So if let's say
Tank and Paul turns out to be an absolute train wreck,
at least you don't walk away from your screen all
(30:56):
annoyed because it just costs you eighty bucks.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
That's true. That's a good point.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Let me ask you this as we as you mentioned
Canelo and and Crawford in the twilight of their careers,
what's next? Who's the up and coming uh and any
weight class in boxing to kind of usher this thing
into into the new era of boxing? Is there anyone
we should be looking out for and anyone we should
(31:20):
be paying attention to to really you know, put the
mantle of boxing on their shoulder.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
Well, there are certainly a number of uh, you know,
top level contenders and other title holders who are not
in the twilight of their career who could be considered
like in the primes of their career or making good
fights and just off the top. I had to think
about like a light heavyweight named David Benavidius, He's got
a good fight coming up in November, defending one of
his belts in Saudi Arabia, but on the zone here
(31:46):
in the United States against Antony Yard, he got the
outstanding Shakhor Stevenson, who has one of the titles at
lightweight that's looking to fight that the Big Games coming up.
A really spectacular performance just a few weeks ago. Uh.
And so from that standpoint, there are those young guys
we just saw, and if you want somebody even younger
that's really on the rise, like almost meteorically. Just this
past Saturday, you have a heavyweight from England named Moses E. Tama,
(32:09):
who's twenty years old, who's a south paw with tremendous
punching power, who took a big step up in his
competition level. He's only twelve and oer going into the fight,
only twenty five rounds as a professional, and he took
on a very battle tested former title challenger, longtime contender
in Dyllian White, who was much older, and everybody figured
he's gonna win the fight, but he just did him
(32:29):
in one round. I mean, it was just a devastation.
So keep your keep your thought process. When you hear
about like an upcoming fighter, upcoming heavyweight, about Moses t. Toama,
they're talking about maybe even possibly in his next fight,
perhaps to fight after of matching him with Alexander Usak,
who is the undisputed heavyweight champion. He is a really
superb prospect. A lot of people, I don't think this
(32:51):
is fair, but a lot of people talk about him
in the same vein as they talked about like the
twenty twenty one year old Mike Tyson. So definitely got
to keep an.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Eye on a whole lot right there, twenty twenty one
year old Tyson. All Right, Dan, we appreciate your time
as always, Thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
Brother.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
Okay, guys, my pleasure.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
Thanks Dan.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
All right, Ephram, one's gotta go, and uh this one
is a uh boy band edition.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
I'll explain when we come back.
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after the end of the show. All right, it is
time now for one's Gotta Go.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
Five of crowds that want to blend hair Ton even
number figure it out.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
All right, it's time for one's Gotta Go.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
But Robzie, actually you sat up because based on how
you got to this, it was the conversation about the
Backstreet Boys.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Backstree Boys.
Speaker 9 (34:28):
There'sphere residency ended Monty, but you know they added more tickets.
Speaker 10 (34:32):
Yeah, I was part of the seventy nine thousand people
in the queue trying to get together next.
Speaker 9 (34:36):
Now, some of the prices I've already been announced because
they're already available for resale for the New Year's week.
The average price of a ticket get it is about
seven hundred fifty bucks. However, if you want some prime
seeds dead center in like the middle mezzanine level, you
might as well buy a Honda Civix seventeen thousand dollars
for box seats to go see the Backstreet Boys. And
(34:59):
that's the impetus of it, this conversation. One's gotta go
the boy band edition.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
All right, So here we go. This is how we're
gonna do this. There's a bunch that you could consider.
There was almost too many, but we're gonna narrow it.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Down to these.
Speaker 10 (35:12):
Let's see which ones you got.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
All right, New Kids on the Block, Backstreet Boys and
Sync Boys to Men.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
New addition, Mmm, do you need me to read them again?
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Yes, New Kids on the Block, Backstreet Boys and Sync
Boys to Men.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
New edition. Who would like to start?
Speaker 10 (35:42):
This is easy?
Speaker 3 (35:42):
Let's start with Rob Parker.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Ain't here and get it still easy, ladies, First Kids.
Speaker 10 (35:49):
On the Blocks, gotta go? Wow, thank you so much
to you. I I don't think I have a single
song of theirs on my phone.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Yeah, okay, hey, hey hey does it?
Speaker 10 (36:10):
Does it hit a spot for me? All the other
ones hit a spot?
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Hold on all right? Hold up, hold up, you gotta
drop all right? Who you got Alex for you too?
Speaker 3 (36:19):
Oh yeah, same thing.
Speaker 6 (36:20):
I want to pick a band that I was born,
you know, like before they were making.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
The Kids on the Block.
Speaker 6 (36:25):
Yeah, like dude, step by Step is their biggest song.
They barely have eighty million plays on it and the
entirety it's been up since the nineties. Like that's pretty
insane to me. I just never cared for them. I
never go to listen to them. And other than like
step but Step, I know how to walk. I appreciate you,
you know, okay?
Speaker 3 (36:42):
Uh Ephraim or Rob G? Go ahead, Rob G.
Speaker 9 (36:45):
Well, we're not gonna do is disrespect odd couple friends
of the show, Donny Walbert who gets on the block.
We're not gonna do that. So we're doing yes you are.
That's it's disrespectful. The one that's got to go is
obviously the Battery Boys because they are the second tier
of that team with the men and Sync because it
a Sync did a residient this year. If you're paying
seventeen grand for Backer, you're playing he's thirty and.
Speaker 10 (37:07):
He wasn't a real boy band. That's why they can't
do this.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
What do you mean they're a real boy.
Speaker 10 (37:11):
It was justin Timberlake and everybody.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Else and friends San Chaz, he was the more talented one.
Speaker 10 (37:20):
Can't even remember his name. The fact that the Backstree
Boys are still together and they're still on tour.
Speaker 9 (37:24):
No, they're they're together because they need money.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
He no new kids on the block, gotta go wow,
right there. I don't.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
I didn't want to say this one either, New Kids
on the Block because I like that they actually had
some gangster them. Them dudes was from Boston, ball like
Boston like yeah, like, but no, they hang him tough.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
Now we never get it.
Speaker 9 (37:47):
Donnie on the show again.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
Come on, he's a great career.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
He's been a great actor, right Donnie his lovely wife.
I can't be family. But uh yeah, new kid. We're
gonna have to get some new some newer kids on
the block. Let me tell you who wasn't going nowhere.
New addition, No, I wasn't going nowhere. One of the
greatest group because if it is in love, I feel
this way, why does she Every member of that group
(38:14):
had solo platinum album and we don't get poison. We
don't get every single member of that group were successful
series movie or whatever.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
It was great. That was actually great.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
I give you credit, and boys to men the talent
is better than everybody on the window and sing. The
only reason why they made it was God. That's the
only reason. God