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All right, So we've been having our Aaron Rodgers conversation
because he's pretty much got everybody waiting to find out
what's what and where he decides to go. Rob g
a couple of teams obviously waiting to see what he's
gonna do. Even have the owner of the Steelers having
some thoughts on Aaron Rodgers holding them hostage.
Speaker 5 (01:44):
Yeah, So it was actually the former GM Doug Whaley,
and he does some local raid every once in a
while in San Diego on ninety seven point three, and
of course they had NFL hotbed of course. So but
you know, naturally when Aaron Rodgers' name is a vail,
he's going to come up a conversation. So the very
first question they asked him was about Aaron Rodgers and
(02:07):
this rumor that the Pittsburgh Steelers are having an open
invitation airs. Hey, if you want to come back and
if you want to play football again, here's the number
we're going to offer you come play for us. As
far as we know, Aaron Rodgers is still not closer decision.
But here's what Wayley said about what's going on with
Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers.
Speaker 6 (02:26):
If I'm Omar Kahn and I'm the Pittsburgh Steelers. One
you shouldn't be surprised, and two you have to sit
down and really think about do we want to sign
up for this? Because he's set on the table in
the president early it's all about Aaron Rodgers and it
has nothing to do with.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
The Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 6 (02:44):
He's going to hold the whole franchise hostage on waiting
for him to make a decision. But that's part for
the course when you deal with a guy like Aaron Rodgers.
So you have to make sure you really want this
not only in your locker room, but to be the
face of your French It's not gonna be the Pittsburgh
Steelers anymore. It's gonna be Aaron Rodgers Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
He was passionate about that, He had all the thoughts.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
So look, man, one thing I don't want to do
if I'm a franchise I don't want to be left
on red by Aaron Rodgers. I don't want to be
left just oh, thank you, I heard you. But I'll
get back to you. And there are reports that it
could be matter of a week. There's reports that it
could be a matter of four weeks before the team's
hear back from him. And if your organization, to me,
(03:32):
you have mismanaged your quarterback situation if you are this
late in the game and you don't have a quarterback,
and b you're waiting around for Aaron Rodgers, who has
one of the all time greats, but at this point
in time, I don't believe is a great option for
your franchise trying to move forward.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
So I look at it as like when you watch.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Those movies back in the eighties, all those John Hughes films,
and it's like a prim day, right, You're waiting around.
He's gonna ask me, He's gonna ask me. I know
he's gonna ask me. He's gonna ask me, and you
mess around, You're gonna be going to prom by yourself
or what's your best friend and making like it's a
gallantines thing like you meant to do it when you
really were waiting on that guy to ask you. And
Aaron Rodgers holding these teams hostage is kind of crazy
(04:11):
to me because I can't believe this is the guy
that's holding them hostage at this place in his career
nine years ago. Makes all the sense in the world,
not even maybe two three years ago with the Jets.
Even then it kind of made sense. You get why
the Jets would do that. But at this current datey,
especially with the Steelers, it's like, all right, you're supposed
to be the Pittsburgh Steelers and you are being held hostage,
(04:31):
don't know what you're doing. Your Plan B allegedly and
they called it a distant Plan B is Russell Wilson.
What if he messed around the side with the Giants,
And now, what are you gonna do if Aaron Rodgers
decides to do something else to retire, or if Minnesota
last minute comes in, Now you're stuck. So I just
believe they mismanaged their quarterback situations. And I ain't on
him waiting on him being left on red by Aaron
Rodgers and again they're gonna mess around and go to
(04:53):
prom by hisself.
Speaker 7 (04:55):
I think it's the biggest non story. He's a free agent.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
He's able to mull over offers by different teams and
try to figure out what he wants to do. There's
no timetable. The season doesn't start next week. I mean,
this is free agency. He doesn't have to sign or
pick a team right away. This is a period that
he has a time to look it over figure out
what's the best fit for him. This is gonna be
(05:18):
his last stop, so this makes sense to me. And
for all the people say he's terrible, washed up, how
is he holding a franchise hostage?
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Then if he's no good.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
There are at least two teams for sure, maybe three
who are interested.
Speaker 7 (05:33):
That's because there are no quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
I don't know what league you guys are looking at
and keep acting like, oh, there's just a pluthor of
quarterbacks out there and they can just pick people. There's nobody,
there's nobody. There's nobody out there, And that's why he's
going to have.
Speaker 7 (05:51):
The attention of a couple of teams.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
And they hope if they were so held ben Elm
or not waiting, they could have all rescinded their offers
and said, well, thank you, but no, thank you. Did
anybody do that? No, because they don't have a quarterback.
It's called free agency. What they're mad because he's trying
to make a decision. I've never even heard anything like this.
(06:16):
He has to make a snap decision for who the
season starts in six months for who is the training camp. Yeah,
right after the draft in April. I don't so it's
not today. So if it's of Monday, is at the
end of the world. I'm serious.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Well, I'm held hostage.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
No, if you don't want the guy, tell them thank you,
but no, thanks for pulling back our offer.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
That's all the stealers have to do.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
So they're obviously fine that Aaron Rodgers told them, let
me think about it, let me make my decision. I
want to see what's the best fit for me. They
obviously know what's going on and that he's gonna make
a decision, and that's why they're waiting. Otherwise they would
have just, hey, Russell Wilson, come back, don't go to Cleveland,
We'll just sign you.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
They could have done that.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
They don't want to do that, and that is why
I believe they mismanaged their quarterback situation. Now you're in
a situation where you're banking on him when he could
ultimately say I retire, I'm going to the Giants. Hey,
you know what, Minnesota, they actually just offered me something.
I'm gonna go up there. I'm gonna teach his kids.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Yeah, but they don't want to be in the They
still want to be in the lottery. That's why they
haven't pulled it that. It's not mismanaging. You have a
chance to get a quarterback. And if you think, you
think you have all the other stuff that goes with it.
So so he's got a chance. You have a chance.
You have the running game, you have the defense, you
got all these other things. You just got uh some
(07:42):
dynamic wide receivers, like like you want to you want
to win a playoff game. You want to make another run.
And there are quarterbacks out there. And if you watch
him closely and just stop with the record, if you
watched them, because we talk about it all the time,
he played better later on in the season.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
He did, but that was the thing when you watched him,
he wasn't making the winning plays. He wasn't making the
winning drives. And nobody say he sucks. Aaron Rodgers is
still talented. Nobody says that. I'm saying. If you're the Steelers,
you're supposed to be in a position where you have
your guy.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
You had ever won a playoff game, that's the point
you've been mismanaging.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
But that's what I'm saying. Rob they've been mismanaging is
for so long that now they're betting. They're pleading and
begging a forty one two forty two during the season
year old to be their answer.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
And I'm saying, you've missmanager.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
So where is this is the position one of the
premier franchises.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Oh okay, the Vikings have mismanaged to is that what
they've done. They won fourteen games, but they still aren't
saying for sure that JJ's going.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
To be there.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
They're trying to get the cherry on top. They're just
trying to have their cake and eat it too. We
have our guy and JJ that we just sent Sam
Donald away and to maybe have a veteran backup or they're.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Not trying to couple.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
If he goes to Minnesota, he's not going anywhere to
be anybody's back.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Well, then they are just mulling around. They don't have
too much, you know, to play with. You think he's
gonna be the backup to JJ McCarthy. Maybe he won't,
but that's my point.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
They know they have the only way JJ would plays
if he got hurt, Aaron Rodgers got hurt. He's not
going there to be a bad guy. But they know
you got, Yes, you got. You could sit there. Aaron
Rodgers sat for three years and he's going to the
Hall of Fame. You can sit. It ain't the end
of the world if you don't play right away. And
I'm sure that they get but if we have a
chance to get Aaron Rodgers for a year or two
(09:35):
and you can learn from this guy and see what
he does, how he prepares, whatever it is.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
And that just makes no sense for me, Minnesota, absolutely
no sense. You literally had your guy who got to
watch for a year because he couldn't play because he
was injured, and you're never gonna get to start the
clock starting until it starts. So he's already had his year.
He waited around, he watched, he watched, really.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Waited for three years too, and now and last day
they gave him two hundred million dollars.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
No, no, no, I'm not a post awaiting when it makes sense.
Aaron Rodgers sat behind Brett Favre Jordan left set behind
Aaron Rodgers, Prime Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
But they still they sat behind, They sat behind future
Hall of famers.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
It's not right, That's what I'm saying. So I'm not
who would he be sitting behind now a forty something.
You're on Aaron Rodgers. Nah, I'm straight bruh. We're gonna
start this thing off the JJ McCarthy run. This is
the era of J J McCarthy, so makes zero sense
for them to go there. You might toss around.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
You totally disagree. I just when you have a chance
to what Rob, what do you mean to do? What?
Speaker 7 (10:37):
They won fourteen games last year with Sam Donald?
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Aaron? He absolutely is.
Speaker 7 (10:45):
That's why they That's why they walked away from him.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
No, he's not.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
He's better than Aaron Rodgers, better than He's not top
ten quarterbacks, better than Aaron Rodgers, Sam Donald.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
That's why they They banished him to Seattle on a
team with no offensive line.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
Did that because they have JJ McCarthy's guy, they.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Or they wouldn't be interested in Aaron Rodgers. Come on, man,
you're not even making sense. What do you mean you
have JJ McCarthy. Why are you interested in Aaron Rodgers?
Do I need multiple quarterbacks on the team? No, I'm
asking you, he's not the backup quarterback. Would you stop
saying that? Because not going to Minnesota? Dude tossing around? Hey,
let's just talk to him. Let's just see what's going
(11:24):
on there they are doing. Roger, you'll go to Minnesota
to be JJ McCarthy's backup.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Do you even hear yourself? I'm saying, the Vikings are
doing their due diligence. We have our guy, the future,
flat out. That's not no dispute. Not a single person
disputes that.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
We know that.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
And they're just kicking the tires and see what else
around because for them it's a win win. We got
our guy. JJ is a future, flat out, and that's
what they're doing. So to me, not even makes sense
at this point. Move forward and the JJ era and
the Steelers again put themselves in a situation where now
they're relying and waiting on him because God knows what
they'll do if he decides to retire or if he's
(12:00):
tis goes to the Giants or something like that. The
Steelers with that, does Russell Wilson want to be seconds?
Oops are bad? Russ were was playing with you man?
Can you come on back?
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Like? How does that work? He don't have a job.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
I mean, what what choice does he have? He doesn't
have a job. If they said you're gonna come back
and be the starting quarterback. He's gonna say no.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
He might jo I'm saying, he might wait around to
see what the Browns do, wait around and see what
the Giants do. He might not want to go back
to that situation.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
You ain't want me. You want to go get him.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
As soon as somebody offers you the job. I'm telling
you at that age, in this situation, you're gonna take it.
If they say we want you to be the starting
quarterback next year. We looked around, we think you still
are the best options. Will that tell Aaron Rodgers to
take it? They just asked him, and it come be
our stage.
Speaker 7 (12:43):
And he's taking his time, all right?
Speaker 1 (12:44):
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Out here, all right, we're talking about how many conversations
by Aaron Rodgers and are these teams mismanaging it or
Rayreon Rodgers well within his right to wait while he
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We got Kate in Reno, Nevada. You're on the odd
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Speaker 3 (15:51):
What's up, Kate?
Speaker 5 (15:52):
Hey?
Speaker 9 (15:52):
How are we doing today?
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Doing good?
Speaker 5 (15:55):
Good?
Speaker 9 (15:55):
Hey?
Speaker 10 (15:56):
I just said a reminder on my phone to call
back on Tuesday. As that take about Donald's being a
better quarterback than Aaron Rodgers, cow, that's wild wild.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Okay, make sure you make sure you what I said now, Okay,
not all time.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
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that on.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
A ridiculous Sam Darnald, I guarantee you I'm not alone.
Speaker 10 (16:19):
I'm coming at you, brother, So listen. My take is,
if you don't want to get held hostage by a quarterback,
you get your ducks.
Speaker 9 (16:26):
In the row before that time comes.
Speaker 10 (16:29):
You look at the Packers the way that they always
drafted a quarterback before they needed one. The Steelers are
just you're just late to the ball man, and they're.
Speaker 9 (16:36):
Never bad enough to draft that high end quarter right.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
You don't have to be bad, Okay, there's plenty of
people who've been drafted later, most of the Lamar Jackson, uh,
Patrick Mahomes. You can find someone later. Russell Wilson when
he was in his prime. All k, yeah, hey, sound
like he was a gray. They mismanaged the quarterback. That's
literally the point.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
And agree with you at all.
Speaker 7 (17:02):
Nick in New York. You're on the couple of Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 11 (17:06):
Hey, yeah, you guys doing Love the show. Uh, this
is kind of weird for the Steelers to be doing.
But Aaron Rodgers is kind of holding them hostage because
what are they gonna do. They're like the only team
that really does not have a quarterback at the moment,
Fields is out Russell Wilson's going around, who is next
up there? So Aaron Rodgers goes, nowhere, what do they do?
(17:27):
He really is holding them hostage?
Speaker 3 (17:29):
It all right, I admit it.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
That's the point. They mismanaged the situation. That's my point.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Now, no, it just he's a free agent. You got
to go after free agent. How did they miss manage it?
If they decided, okay, this is what I'm trying to get. Okay,
So they decided that they didn't want the two guys
that they had. Now you got to go through free agency,
and if they zeroed in on Aaron Rodgers, as we're
going to make a push for Aaron Rodgers. Free agency
(17:58):
just started two days ago. A lot of people signed,
but yes, not everybody signed. So they decide, we want
in on Aaron Rodgers. Here's the parameters, here's the money.
Whatever we want to hear from you when you're ready
to make your decision.
Speaker 7 (18:12):
How is that mismagging that?
Speaker 4 (18:14):
Sure, because if you're doing all this rand Rogers to
this point his career, then you've already mismanaged the situation.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Okay, then that's different and that's your situation and the
Steelers is just different and they had nothing to do
with mismanagement.
Speaker 7 (18:25):
You just don't value him. If you're not mismanagement.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
I'm saying value your quarterback situation relies on the one
guy who's forty something years old.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
That's not mismanagement.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
That's different because they have a different value than you know,
because they they could have signed somebody and traded them,
they had other options.
Speaker 7 (18:44):
They but they they're looking at him, and you're.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Right, that's their prerogative. You're right, that's their guy. I
will completely disagree with the moves they are making.
Speaker 7 (18:52):
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Speaker 12 (18:56):
Sure, yeah, I'll go from another's mother to kill me
and my brother's behind the boy. Look, Rob Man, I
thought Leo set you straight yesterday, our g Kelvin. It
is one hundred percent right today. Man, Look we know
the blueprint. We saw this happen with the New York
Jets outstanding defense. All they needed Aaron Rodgers to come
(19:16):
in and pull his MVP magic on what happened embarrassing
two years in a row, once for injury and once
because they let that man run the team.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Kill me.
Speaker 9 (19:24):
You are one hundred percent right man.
Speaker 10 (19:25):
The Steelers are one hundred percent mismanaging this.
Speaker 12 (19:27):
And when you battling with the New York Giants for
the starting.
Speaker 10 (19:30):
Quarterbacks on the wall, you are much sugar.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
And Rob Leo, how is it if he goes to
the Minnesota Vikings. I want you to call back, okay,
the team that was fourteen and two last year, fourteen
and three?
Speaker 7 (19:42):
Rod all right, called back?
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Call back, Sean, because then you are and you better apologize.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
All right?
Speaker 3 (19:50):
You know what? I everything good?
Speaker 12 (19:53):
No?
Speaker 3 (19:53):
All right? Peace? What's up him? Later?
Speaker 4 (19:56):
Even if they even if you were to side with them,
to me, they're fine with that because it goes to
what we were saying earlier.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
If they choose to have. You would say that they
mismanaged it. No, because they literally have their future.
Speaker 7 (20:06):
No, but they still have co they're in the running
to get them.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
I would not get them, but they already have their guys.
There's three teams.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Your evaluation is fine, and I respect your opinion, But
three teams in the NFL have a different evaluation of
Aaron Rodd.
Speaker 7 (20:23):
That's my only point to you.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
You have a different evaluation, and you're saying that the
three teams that are looking for a quarterback to stabilize.
We talked about it. The Giants need to win. The
coaching GM needs to save their job. So you will
take a flyer on a guy who's won before.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
That's a bad situation to be in. Man.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
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Speaker 3 (21:22):
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Speaker 9 (21:23):
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Speaker 3 (21:25):
What's so good? And Gary?
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Just curious if the ball comes and bounces, you know,
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Speaker 7 (21:39):
Up a three if you're covering the game in Boston?
I just want to know.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
But my goodness, gracious, Gary, clean, look right, okay, all
right enough. At one point in the second half last night,
they were like four for twenty six from three, and
I'm just like, really, I get it.
Speaker 7 (22:00):
They make a lot of threes. They won the championship.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
It worked for them, But my goodness, gracious, that's hard
to watch.
Speaker 9 (22:07):
Carry Yeah, I mean, some people have an issue with it.
It's their style of ball. Their style is if you
get a good, clean look, take it. And they took
sixty three last night. They missed forty three, which is
probably most more than many, probably twenty five or thirty
(22:28):
almost thirty. NBA teams take per game they missed. So
it's just one of those games that the shots didn't
go down and they look at it, they say, hey,
they only lost by six, so if two or three
of those shots go down, they're probably winning.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Or maybe if ten of those shots or Tuesday win.
How about that.
Speaker 9 (22:49):
Yeah, I mean, you would think they attacked the rimy
think they fretting the line. You would think they take bit.
You know, Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown are both very
very good players from the mid range. They they're good
jump shooters inside the arc. You would think that they
would work that in, but they don't. But it's worked
(23:09):
for them, So you can call it ugly. And a
lot of us old schoolers, you know, are used to
you know guys you know in the post getting getting
the work done, getting to the freak throw line, or
were used to hakeem on the spin move and the dunks,
and we're used to a certain amount of post game
and paint game that we just don't see anymore.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Well, say that for me.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
You said, it works for them and this is kind
of their blueprint and what they've become is this just
for them getting to the playoffs at this point, let's
just get to the playoffs. Let's just get to the finals,
because they've been to the playoffs so many times, Eastern
Conference finals now of course winning titles. Are they the
best team that you see, maybe don't look at the record, obviously, Okay,
see obviously the Cleveland Cavaliers are they just like the best.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Team and it just might as well put them in
the finals.
Speaker 9 (23:56):
I wouldn't say, I don't think so at this point.
I think that the two teams they've faith they've lost
to in the last couple of weeks, Cleveland Oklahoma City.
Neither of them are afraid of the Celtics, and both
of them have means to beat the Celtics. The Cavaliers
have the two bigs in the middle and Allen and Mowgli.
The Celtics have still not learned how to stop or
(24:18):
it contained Donovan Mitchell, and then they got the shifty
and crafty Darius Garland who can just get to the
rim you know when he wants. And the same with
Oklahoma City in terms of just the thunder are just
so deep. They bringing guys out there that you know,
they've had all these years of draft picks and all
these guys that never really heard of, and they played
(24:38):
so well together as a team, even out without Jalen
Williams last night. So I think the Celtics at this
point are the third best team, but obviously they're the
defending champs. Will they flip the switch to become a
juggernaut in the playoffs? We'll see. I mean, they've got
to get healthy, they got to get Christats or Zingis back,
and I think they're a different team team with him
(25:01):
in that lineup, and they are the team, you know,
close to the team that people think they are in
that could the pe.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Gary.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Let's go to the NBA MVP and where are you?
I mean, we know what SGA has done leading the
league in scoring, but but man, Nicola Jokic has been
unbelievable in that thirty twenty twenty game. It's gonna be
(25:29):
hard for anybody who takes a look at his season,
you know, averaging a triple double, but not to think
about that game as something that you had never seen before.
Speaker 7 (25:39):
Where are you on the MVP and where the race is?
Speaker 9 (25:43):
Yeah, I'm probably leaning toward SGA. Just the leader of
a team that's got the best record of the second
best record in the league. They lead the West file.
I think eleven games there getting it doone winning wise,
I mean, he scored how many games of a consecutive
point twenty point games? He's unstoppable, he can get to
(26:03):
the he freaked the line when he wants. I mean,
he's crafty. I just think I think there's a little
voter fatigue for for Yokick, and that's not fair that that.
Speaker 7 (26:13):
Every time I hear that, I think it's ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
And I'm gonna say this. They gave they gave. They
gave Brett Fair three.
Speaker 7 (26:19):
NFL MVPs in a row.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
I mean, like since win I just Barry Bond, Mary Bond,
you cover baseball, won seven National League MVPs because he
was the best player.
Speaker 7 (26:31):
I mean, I I think that voters who do that, they.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Do an injustice, uh to to the players. I think
next last year shouldn't matter what happened.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
I just shouldn't.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
I think that they job Lamar Jackson out of an
m v P for what reason.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
I have no idea.
Speaker 9 (26:50):
I agree Rob, but I do think it's gonna be
voter m VP, especially since Oklahoma City is fulfilling all
their expectations. They're they're the best team by fall in
the Western Conference and in the NBA along with Cleveland.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
But see Gary.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
My pushback thoughays Russell Westbrook won an MVP, was a
sixth seed, Nobody, nobody looked and said, well, he's the
succeeed he did something nobody had ever done and in
fifty years or whatever it was with the Big O
and the triple averaging a triple double.
Speaker 9 (27:19):
So I agree, I'll go with what your your close
friend Vinny Goodwill said. I think voters in that year
fell in love with the word ten or starting with
the letter to number ten, the letter ten, number ten
and the triple double just mesmerized people because it had
not been done since the Big All. And I think,
and I think people Westbrook in as much as he
(27:42):
has his critics, if you watch that guy play in
the motor that he plays with and the fiercest that
he plays with, I think it's just a it was
an admiration and kind of like a tip of the
cap for Westbrook that year that hey, man, like you
literally carry this team, carrying it without Kate, with KD
kind of bailing on you and going to Golden State.
(28:05):
You're the guy who's carrying his team. You're doing everything,
You're rebounding, you're running the floor. You don't have any
friends on the floor. I mean, he's one of those
guys that doesn't like any of his opponents, which is
which is something we're cheering for because now these guys
are signing each other.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Oh buddies, Yeah, go after random regularation so ridiculous.
Speaker 9 (28:26):
Wearing each other's shoes on the floor's like, goodness, Gary.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
I think uh do just to put a button on
that Westbrook conversation. I also think that's because it was
the first time it happened in fifty years. Now he's
Russ himself had another couple of seasons of triple doubles.
Now you got Jokic, it's less, it's still incredible. I
think people have become used to where's Russell the first time?
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Joka?
Speaker 7 (28:47):
This is these numbers are better than any of his MVP.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
But the same thing with Lamar, like.
Speaker 9 (28:53):
This is what prob of a little surprise that you
are because we all know, us old schoolers that the
assist is a a little different now than it was
in the eighties and nineties. I saw one play where
Jo handed the ball off behind the three point line
of Michael Porter Junior, who dribbled through three guys and
win a dunks and jokes got the assistant.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
Well, that's that's home cooking.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
You remember when John Stockton played if he passed if
cal malone, if he passed call malone, the salt and
pepper sit in the pregame, he got two assists.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
You already know that, Gary real quick for us. We
talked about this a little bit earlier. Just your thoughts,
you know, obviously covering Boston, covering teams up on the
East Coast, the Knicks. Right now, Tims, you got Tims,
You got Michael Bridges coming out talking, hey man, can
I get a break?
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Can we get some rest? Right now?
Speaker 4 (29:45):
And again, this is coming from a kid who played
over twenty four hundred straight games, So he's not a
kid who wants to load management.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
And I'm saying I need to break. This is Tim's downfall.
We've heard this before. What do you thought? What are
your thoughts on Tims? And Tim's kind of pushing back.
Speaker 9 (29:58):
Yeah, I mean I think this is who Tims is.
I mean, I think we all knew he took this job.
He's gonna run the guys into the Browns. So by
the time the playoffs come, the Nicks are gonna be tired.
I think that's the biggest, biggest fear. Because he trusts
five or six guys in that team. He's gonna play
him thirty five forty minutes. He's gonna play them extensive
(30:18):
minutes in a road game in Portland or a road
game at Charlotte, and those guys are gonna get tired.
And I just think we all kind of knew this
is Tims is not doing something that we haven't seen before.
This is what what a Chris Ross said, The Tiger
went Tiger. I mean, this is Tims being Tims. I
(30:40):
just think this is who he is. This is why
he hasn't been unable to lead a team to the final,
and he's only gotten to a certain level is because
one he doesn't trust some of his players. He doesn't
put that that faith and is deep into his bench.
And that's why other coaches are more successful, because you've
got to trust these guys. This is not the old days.
You can't play everybody forty two minutes a game, So
(31:02):
they gonna come back be ready to play a back
to back. This is a different This is a low
management here. We all know that.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
Yeah, Gary Man, We appreciate you, Gary washing right there,
Buddy Club National NBA writer again, g Washburn Globe on X,
Thank you Man, appreciate you.
Speaker 9 (31:17):
Thanks God. Yep.
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It is shop talk Here on the od couple of
Fox Sports Radio SI, when we talk about something happening
outside of the world of sports. This week's topic comes
to us from the world of aviation. I know Rob
Parkerd about this one because he loves a good deal.
Southwest Airlines is given the big middle finger to all
their loyal travelers by getting rid of the first two
(32:51):
bags fly free.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
That ain't gonna happen no more.
Speaker 5 (32:53):
They already didn't have first class they you know, so
you're already only flying coach. Now getting rid of the
one of the things that people went to them the
most for the free bags flying and they're gonna be
adding something called the basic fare, which I didn't even
know they had a lower tier from just hey want
to get away to get whatever seat that you show
(33:14):
up in.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
It is what it is.
Speaker 5 (33:15):
They're gonna have an even cheaper version of That's here's
the question, guys, do you number one, have a problem
with this, and number two as a bigger question when
brands step out of their comfort zone, whether it's Southwest
no longer wanting to be the budget airline, when it's
Taco Ball adding Chicken Wings, you had a problem with it.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Go ahead, Rob, Well, of course, I've never been a
big Southwest guy. It always felt like I was, you know,
flying on a bus because there's no seats and all that.
And the one thing that's great is the no bag
And for people who are looking to save money, that's huge.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
A lot of places charge you.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Forty five, fifty sixty maybe at the gate ninety one
hundred if you don't check, you know, and you try
to bring a bag on. So you talk about two
bags at four let's just say forty bucks. That's eighty
each way. That's a big about a lot of money.
And now you don't have like the greatest seating situation.
(34:19):
The flights are you gotta stop everywhere. There's not a
lot of direct flights. There's a lot of things wrong
with that. I think that they just hurt themselves big time.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
You know what's interesting about this when you look at
some of the brands and companies that are having massive success.
You know it's the actual and then they literally have
done massive business surveys and studies on this. You know
what the number one thing is customer service going over
and beyond. You know why everybody goes to Chick fil A,
Chick Away sandwiches are good and the fries, it's because
(34:48):
you know they're gonna get it right. They're gonna be polite.
Hey cant get Honeybuster Chick fil A and Barbecue. They're
not gonna be stingy as seventy cents. They're gonna throw
you how many you want. They just shooting them in there,
like Steph Curry. They don't care, right. They will chase
you down Rob Geef, you walk away, sir, your ice tea,
They will chase you down Ventura like they don't play.
(35:09):
And so what's interesting to me is how these brands
don't get that that customer service, not penny pinching, going beyond.
You create loyal customers, and people will come and they'll spend.
And if your in and out prices have to go
up just a little bit, you're okay with that because
they've been good to you for so long. They mastered
what they do again, another place with amazing customer service.
(35:30):
You've never left in and out mad, and if they
do mess it up to one out of one thousand times,
they'll take care of you. So I said that to say,
I'm blown away that these brands and companies don't get
that we don't mind paying a little bit more. If
the customer service is grade. You taking care of us,
you're doing right by us. Penny pinching and trying to
find ways to make a buck charging for water and everything.
That's just crazy, man, I don't get it.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
Monty.
Speaker 5 (35:53):
I'm with you, guys.
Speaker 13 (35:54):
I'm not a fan of Southwest because I don't like
the like go fight for your seat, but I would
always still fly because they weren't charging me for bags.
Speaker 7 (36:02):
So I was like, okay, cool now with this.
Speaker 13 (36:05):
Change, and I know they're supposed to go to a
signed seating, but I just flew Southwest and they don't
have that yet, so you still it's a free for
all still, And now with the now that you're gonna
charge me, it's just gonna be like, oh well, now
I'm gonna look at other airlines for sure, When before
I wouldn't. I would just go straight Southwest and just
book it.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
That's it's a huge saving.
Speaker 5 (36:23):
Savings and it makes a big difference.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
It does everybody got it's already expensive.
Speaker 13 (36:27):
Flying, Yes, you know absolutely.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Rob G.
Speaker 7 (36:31):
Yeah, I'm with you, guys.
Speaker 5 (36:32):
I think people need to understand with any business, is
you get in where you fit in. Like if I
want to fly in a really not air amorist or
something like that, like I'm gonna get the cocoon service.
If I just want to get from A to B
Southwest Spirit Frontier, like that's where you live, that's where
you make your money.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
And I always go back to Costco. My dream is
to own a Costco one day forever.
Speaker 9 (36:52):
Reason.
Speaker 5 (36:52):
One of the things that their CEO said years ago
before he left, said, hey, we have been having dollars
fifty hot dog and drinks since the eighties. We're losing
money at this point, but brand loyalty. If the next
person who comes in from me and and changes the
price and goes to three dollars or whatever it is
to break even, I will come back from the day
(37:13):
and I will fight you. That's what he said, because
that kind of stuff matters to people, to customers.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
If you're so spending so much money exactly, and then
I could get a cheap lunch, you know what I
mean on that day to not go in and I
don't feel like That's like you go to Vegas and
it used to be like there's always they don't used
to charge you for parking and stuff because they want
you to spend the money in the casino and not feel.
Speaker 7 (37:35):
Like exactly right right.
Speaker 13 (37:37):
I don't know how marketing people at Southwest weren't just like, hey,
let's just raise up prices by ten dollars, not tell
them and that'll cover.
Speaker 7 (37:44):
Like exactly, you could have done it quietly been.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
Here then everybody else.
Speaker 7 (37:50):
I don't get that, Alex, where are you on on
the charge it.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
For the bags?
Speaker 8 (37:57):
Simon Ci Some of us have to train the next
upcoming town of the world, So I will say this
flying is already sketchy. I don't like being in a
sardine can with people I'll never meet again, smelling their
own or listening to their children that I didn't birth.
So to know that I have to pay more or
less to fly with these people is disgusting.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
I know you're not so you're not flying fly No,
I hate flying.
Speaker 7 (38:14):
Flying, fourteen hours to Australia, overall water.
Speaker 8 (38:18):
I'll take a boat.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
Okay, I'll chance.
Speaker 5 (38:19):
It knowing him people I don't know, and I'm ever
meet again.
Speaker 4 (38:23):
Knowing him, like, oh no, we'll just do a canoe.
It's awesome, Like you just stop in the MILLI yo,
I'm to pack sandwich kayak. I'll pack sandwiches.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
You know.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
I make these amazing almonds, almond butter sandwiches. It's amazing.
We'll get there three bucks, who cares? Or workout. I'll
just paddleboard the whole thing.
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Speaker 4 (01:25):
All right, So we've been having our Aaron Rodgers conversation
because he's pretty much got everybody waiting to find out
what's what and where he decides to go. Rob g
a couple of teams obviously waiting to see what he's
gonna do. Even have the owner of the Steelers having
some thoughts on Aaron Rodgers holding them hostage.
Speaker 5 (01:44):
Yeah, So it was actually the former GM Doug Whaley,
and he does some local raid every once in a
while in San Diego on ninety seven point three, and
of course they had NFL hotbed of course. So but
you know, naturally when Aaron Rodgers' name is a vail,
he's going to come up a conversation. So the very
first question they asked him was about Aaron Rodgers and
(02:07):
this rumor that the Pittsburgh Steelers are having an open
invitation airs. Hey, if you want to come back and
if you want to play football again, here's the number
we're going to offer you come play for us. As
far as we know, Aaron Rodgers is still not closer decision.
But here's what Wayley said about what's going on with
Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers.
Speaker 6 (02:26):
If I'm Omar Kahn and I'm the Pittsburgh Steelers. One
you shouldn't be surprised, and two you have to sit
down and really think about do we want to sign
up for this? Because he's set on the table in
the president early it's all about Aaron Rodgers and it
has nothing to do with.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
The Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 6 (02:44):
He's going to hold the whole franchise hostage on waiting
for him to make a decision. But that's part for
the course when you deal with a guy like Aaron Rodgers.
So you have to make sure you really want this
not only in your locker room, but to be the
face of your French It's not gonna be the Pittsburgh
Steelers anymore. It's gonna be Aaron Rodgers Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
He was passionate about that, He had all the thoughts.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
So look, man, one thing I don't want to do
if I'm a franchise I don't want to be left
on red by Aaron Rodgers. I don't want to be
left just oh, thank you, I heard you. But I'll
get back to you. And there are reports that it
could be matter of a week. There's reports that it
could be a matter of four weeks before the team's
hear back from him. And if your organization, to me,
(03:32):
you have mismanaged your quarterback situation if you are this
late in the game and you don't have a quarterback,
and b you're waiting around for Aaron Rodgers, who has
one of the all time greats, but at this point
in time, I don't believe is a great option for
your franchise trying to move forward.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
So I look at it as like when you watch.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Those movies back in the eighties, all those John Hughes films,
and it's like a prim day, right, You're waiting around.
He's gonna ask me, He's gonna ask me. I know
he's gonna ask me. He's gonna ask me, and you
mess around, You're gonna be going to prom by yourself
or what's your best friend and making like it's a
gallantines thing like you meant to do it when you
really were waiting on that guy to ask you. And
Aaron Rodgers holding these teams hostage is kind of crazy
(04:11):
to me because I can't believe this is the guy
that's holding them hostage at this place in his career
nine years ago. Makes all the sense in the world,
not even maybe two three years ago with the Jets.
Even then it kind of made sense. You get why
the Jets would do that. But at this current datey,
especially with the Steelers, it's like, all right, you're supposed
to be the Pittsburgh Steelers and you are being held hostage,
(04:31):
don't know what you're doing. Your Plan B allegedly and
they called it a distant Plan B is Russell Wilson.
What if he messed around the side with the Giants,
And now, what are you gonna do if Aaron Rodgers
decides to do something else to retire, or if Minnesota
last minute comes in, Now you're stuck. So I just
believe they mismanaged their quarterback situations. And I ain't on
him waiting on him being left on red by Aaron
Rodgers and again they're gonna mess around and go to
(04:53):
prom by hisself.
Speaker 7 (04:55):
I think it's the biggest non story. He's a free agent.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
He's able to mull over offers by different teams and
try to figure out what he wants to do. There's
no timetable. The season doesn't start next week. I mean,
this is free agency. He doesn't have to sign or
pick a team right away. This is a period that
he has a time to look it over figure out
what's the best fit for him. This is gonna be
(05:18):
his last stop, so this makes sense to me. And
for all the people say he's terrible, washed up, how
is he holding a franchise hostage?
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Then if he's no good.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
There are at least two teams for sure, maybe three
who are interested.
Speaker 7 (05:33):
That's because there are no quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
I don't know what league you guys are looking at
and keep acting like, oh, there's just a pluthor of
quarterbacks out there and they can just pick people. There's nobody,
there's nobody. There's nobody out there, And that's why he's
going to have.
Speaker 7 (05:51):
The attention of a couple of teams.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
And they hope if they were so held ben Elm
or not waiting, they could have all rescinded their offers
and said, well, thank you, but no, thank you. Did
anybody do that? No, because they don't have a quarterback.
It's called free agency. What they're mad because he's trying
to make a decision. I've never even heard anything like this.
(06:16):
He has to make a snap decision for who the
season starts in six months for who is the training camp. Yeah,
right after the draft in April. I don't so it's
not today. So if it's of Monday, is at the
end of the world. I'm serious.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Well, I'm held hostage.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
No, if you don't want the guy, tell them thank you,
but no, thanks for pulling back our offer.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
That's all the stealers have to do.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
So they're obviously fine that Aaron Rodgers told them, let
me think about it, let me make my decision. I
want to see what's the best fit for me. They
obviously know what's going on and that he's gonna make
a decision, and that's why they're waiting. Otherwise they would
have just, hey, Russell Wilson, come back, don't go to Cleveland,
We'll just sign you.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
They could have done that.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
They don't want to do that, and that is why
I believe they mismanaged their quarterback situation. Now you're in
a situation where you're banking on him when he could
ultimately say I retire, I'm going to the Giants. Hey,
you know what, Minnesota, they actually just offered me something.
I'm gonna go up there. I'm gonna teach his kids.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Yeah, but they don't want to be in the They
still want to be in the lottery. That's why they
haven't pulled it that. It's not mismanaging. You have a
chance to get a quarterback. And if you think, you
think you have all the other stuff that goes with it.
So so he's got a chance. You have a chance.
You have the running game, you have the defense, you
got all these other things. You just got uh some
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dynamic wide receivers, like like you want to you want
to win a playoff game. You want to make another run.
And there are quarterbacks out there. And if you watch
him closely and just stop with the record, if you
watched them, because we talk about it all the time,
he played better later on in the season.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
He did, but that was the thing when you watched him,
he wasn't making the winning plays. He wasn't making the
winning drives. And nobody say he sucks. Aaron Rodgers is
still talented. Nobody says that. I'm saying. If you're the Steelers,
you're supposed to be in a position where you have
your guy.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
You had ever won a playoff game, that's the point
you've been mismanaging.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
But that's what I'm saying. Rob they've been mismanaging is
for so long that now they're betting. They're pleading and
begging a forty one two forty two during the season
year old to be their answer.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
And I'm saying, you've missmanager.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
So where is this is the position one of the
premier franchises.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Oh okay, the Vikings have mismanaged to is that what
they've done. They won fourteen games, but they still aren't
saying for sure that JJ's going.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
To be there.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
They're trying to get the cherry on top. They're just
trying to have their cake and eat it too. We
have our guy and JJ that we just sent Sam
Donald away and to maybe have a veteran backup or they're.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Not trying to couple.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
If he goes to Minnesota, he's not going anywhere to
be anybody's back.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Well, then they are just mulling around. They don't have
too much, you know, to play with. You think he's
gonna be the backup to JJ McCarthy. Maybe he won't,
but that's my point.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
They know they have the only way JJ would plays
if he got hurt, Aaron Rodgers got hurt. He's not
going there to be a bad guy. But they know
you got, Yes, you got. You could sit there. Aaron
Rodgers sat for three years and he's going to the
Hall of Fame. You can sit. It ain't the end
of the world if you don't play right away. And
I'm sure that they get but if we have a
chance to get Aaron Rodgers for a year or two
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and you can learn from this guy and see what
he does, how he prepares, whatever it is.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
And that just makes no sense for me, Minnesota, absolutely
no sense. You literally had your guy who got to
watch for a year because he couldn't play because he
was injured, and you're never gonna get to start the
clock starting until it starts. So he's already had his year.
He waited around, he watched, he watched, really.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Waited for three years too, and now and last day
they gave him two hundred million dollars.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
No, no, no, I'm not a post awaiting when it makes sense.
Aaron Rodgers sat behind Brett Favre Jordan left set behind
Aaron Rodgers, Prime Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
But they still they sat behind, They sat behind future
Hall of famers.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
It's not right, That's what I'm saying. So I'm not
who would he be sitting behind now a forty something.
You're on Aaron Rodgers. Nah, I'm straight bruh. We're gonna
start this thing off the JJ McCarthy run. This is
the era of J J McCarthy, so makes zero sense
for them to go there. You might toss around.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
You totally disagree. I just when you have a chance
to what Rob, what do you mean to do? What?
Speaker 7 (10:37):
They won fourteen games last year with Sam Donald?
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Aaron? He absolutely is.
Speaker 7 (10:45):
That's why they That's why they walked away from him.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
No, he's not.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
He's better than Aaron Rodgers, better than He's not top
ten quarterbacks, better than Aaron Rodgers, Sam Donald.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
That's why they They banished him to Seattle on a
team with no offensive line.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
Did that because they have JJ McCarthy's guy, they.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Or they wouldn't be interested in Aaron Rodgers. Come on, man,
you're not even making sense. What do you mean you
have JJ McCarthy. Why are you interested in Aaron Rodgers?
Do I need multiple quarterbacks on the team? No, I'm
asking you, he's not the backup quarterback. Would you stop
saying that? Because not going to Minnesota? Dude tossing around? Hey,
let's just talk to him. Let's just see what's going
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on there they are doing. Roger, you'll go to Minnesota
to be JJ McCarthy's backup.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Do you even hear yourself? I'm saying, the Vikings are
doing their due diligence. We have our guy, the future,
flat out. That's not no dispute. Not a single person
disputes that.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
We know that.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
And they're just kicking the tires and see what else
around because for them it's a win win. We got
our guy. JJ is a future, flat out, and that's
what they're doing. So to me, not even makes sense
at this point. Move forward and the JJ era and
the Steelers again put themselves in a situation where now
they're relying and waiting on him because God knows what
they'll do if he decides to retire or if he's
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tis goes to the Giants or something like that. The
Steelers with that, does Russell Wilson want to be seconds?
Oops are bad? Russ were was playing with you man?
Can you come on back?
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Like? How does that work? He don't have a job.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
I mean, what what choice does he have? He doesn't
have a job. If they said you're gonna come back
and be the starting quarterback. He's gonna say no.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
He might jo I'm saying, he might wait around to
see what the Browns do, wait around and see what
the Giants do. He might not want to go back
to that situation.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
You ain't want me. You want to go get him.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
As soon as somebody offers you the job. I'm telling
you at that age, in this situation, you're gonna take it.
If they say we want you to be the starting
quarterback next year. We looked around, we think you still
are the best options. Will that tell Aaron Rodgers to
take it? They just asked him, and it come be
our stage.
Speaker 7 (12:43):
And he's taking his time, all right?
Speaker 1 (12:44):
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Rayreon Rodgers well within his right to wait while he
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We got Kate in Reno, Nevada. You're on the odd
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Speaker 3 (15:51):
What's up, Kate?
Speaker 5 (15:52):
Hey?
Speaker 9 (15:52):
How are we doing today?
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Doing good?
Speaker 5 (15:55):
Good?
Speaker 9 (15:55):
Hey?
Speaker 10 (15:56):
I just said a reminder on my phone to call
back on Tuesday. As that take about Donald's being a
better quarterback than Aaron Rodgers, cow, that's wild wild.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Okay, make sure you make sure you what I said now, Okay,
not all time.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Don't know me like that, Kate, make sure you put
that on.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
A ridiculous Sam Darnald, I guarantee you I'm not alone.
Speaker 10 (16:19):
I'm coming at you, brother, So listen. My take is,
if you don't want to get held hostage by a quarterback,
you get your ducks.
Speaker 9 (16:26):
In the row before that time comes.
Speaker 10 (16:29):
You look at the Packers the way that they always
drafted a quarterback before they needed one. The Steelers are
just you're just late to the ball man, and they're.
Speaker 9 (16:36):
Never bad enough to draft that high end quarter right.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
You don't have to be bad, Okay, there's plenty of
people who've been drafted later, most of the Lamar Jackson, uh,
Patrick Mahomes. You can find someone later. Russell Wilson when
he was in his prime. All k, yeah, hey, sound
like he was a gray. They mismanaged the quarterback. That's
literally the point.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
And agree with you at all.
Speaker 7 (17:02):
Nick in New York. You're on the couple of Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 11 (17:06):
Hey, yeah, you guys doing Love the show. Uh, this
is kind of weird for the Steelers to be doing.
But Aaron Rodgers is kind of holding them hostage because
what are they gonna do. They're like the only team
that really does not have a quarterback at the moment,
Fields is out Russell Wilson's going around, who is next
up there? So Aaron Rodgers goes, nowhere, what do they do?
(17:27):
He really is holding them hostage?
Speaker 3 (17:29):
It all right, I admit it.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
That's the point. They mismanaged the situation. That's my point.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Now, no, it just he's a free agent. You got
to go after free agent. How did they miss manage it?
If they decided, okay, this is what I'm trying to get. Okay,
So they decided that they didn't want the two guys
that they had. Now you got to go through free agency,
and if they zeroed in on Aaron Rodgers, as we're
going to make a push for Aaron Rodgers. Free agency
(17:58):
just started two days ago. A lot of people signed,
but yes, not everybody signed. So they decide, we want
in on Aaron Rodgers. Here's the parameters, here's the money.
Whatever we want to hear from you when you're ready
to make your decision.
Speaker 7 (18:12):
How is that mismagging that?
Speaker 4 (18:14):
Sure, because if you're doing all this rand Rogers to
this point his career, then you've already mismanaged the situation.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Okay, then that's different and that's your situation and the
Steelers is just different and they had nothing to do
with mismanagement.
Speaker 7 (18:25):
You just don't value him. If you're not mismanagement.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
I'm saying value your quarterback situation relies on the one
guy who's forty something years old.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
That's not mismanagement.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
That's different because they have a different value than you know,
because they they could have signed somebody and traded them,
they had other options.
Speaker 7 (18:44):
They but they they're looking at him, and you're.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Right, that's their prerogative. You're right, that's their guy. I
will completely disagree with the moves they are making.
Speaker 7 (18:52):
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Speaker 12 (18:56):
Sure, yeah, I'll go from another's mother to kill me
and my brother's behind the boy. Look, Rob Man, I
thought Leo set you straight yesterday, our g Kelvin. It
is one hundred percent right today. Man, Look we know
the blueprint. We saw this happen with the New York
Jets outstanding defense. All they needed Aaron Rodgers to come
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in and pull his MVP magic on what happened embarrassing
two years in a row, once for injury and once
because they let that man run the team.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Kill me.
Speaker 9 (19:24):
You are one hundred percent right man.
Speaker 10 (19:25):
The Steelers are one hundred percent mismanaging this.
Speaker 12 (19:27):
And when you battling with the New York Giants for
the starting.
Speaker 10 (19:30):
Quarterbacks on the wall, you are much sugar.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
And Rob Leo, how is it if he goes to
the Minnesota Vikings. I want you to call back, okay,
the team that was fourteen and two last year, fourteen
and three?
Speaker 7 (19:42):
Rod all right, called back?
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Call back, Sean, because then you are and you better apologize.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
All right?
Speaker 3 (19:50):
You know what? I everything good?
Speaker 12 (19:53):
No?
Speaker 3 (19:53):
All right? Peace? What's up him? Later?
Speaker 4 (19:56):
Even if they even if you were to side with them,
to me, they're fine with that because it goes to
what we were saying earlier.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
If they choose to have. You would say that they
mismanaged it. No, because they literally have their future.
Speaker 7 (20:06):
No, but they still have co they're in the running
to get them.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
I would not get them, but they already have their guys.
There's three teams.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Your evaluation is fine, and I respect your opinion, But
three teams in the NFL have a different evaluation of
Aaron Rodd.
Speaker 7 (20:23):
That's my only point to you.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
You have a different evaluation, and you're saying that the
three teams that are looking for a quarterback to stabilize.
We talked about it. The Giants need to win. The
coaching GM needs to save their job. So you will
take a flyer on a guy who's won before.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
That's a bad situation to be in. Man.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
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Speaker 3 (21:20):
Give him a follow there, Gary, what's up?
Speaker 4 (21:22):
Man?
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Gary?
Speaker 9 (21:23):
Hey, guys, how's it going out there?
Speaker 3 (21:25):
What's so good? And Gary?
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Just curious if the ball comes and bounces, you know,
to the writer's table, you know, do you automatically put.
Speaker 7 (21:39):
Up a three if you're covering the game in Boston?
I just want to know.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
But my goodness, gracious, Gary, clean, look right, okay, all
right enough. At one point in the second half last night,
they were like four for twenty six from three, and
I'm just like, really, I get it.
Speaker 7 (22:00):
They make a lot of threes. They won the championship.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
It worked for them, But my goodness, gracious, that's hard
to watch.
Speaker 9 (22:07):
Carry Yeah, I mean, some people have an issue with it.
It's their style of ball. Their style is if you
get a good, clean look, take it. And they took
sixty three last night. They missed forty three, which is
probably most more than many, probably twenty five or thirty
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almost thirty. NBA teams take per game they missed. So
it's just one of those games that the shots didn't
go down and they look at it, they say, hey,
they only lost by six, so if two or three
of those shots go down, they're probably winning.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Or maybe if ten of those shots or Tuesday win.
How about that.
Speaker 9 (22:49):
Yeah, I mean, you would think they attacked the rimy
think they fretting the line. You would think they take bit.
You know, Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown are both very
very good players from the mid range. They they're good
jump shooters inside the arc. You would think that they
would work that in, but they don't. But it's worked
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for them, So you can call it ugly. And a
lot of us old schoolers, you know, are used to
you know guys you know in the post getting getting
the work done, getting to the freak throw line, or
were used to hakeem on the spin move and the dunks,
and we're used to a certain amount of post game
and paint game that we just don't see anymore.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Well, say that for me.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
You said, it works for them and this is kind
of their blueprint and what they've become is this just
for them getting to the playoffs at this point, let's
just get to the playoffs. Let's just get to the finals,
because they've been to the playoffs so many times, Eastern
Conference finals now of course winning titles. Are they the
best team that you see, maybe don't look at the record, obviously, Okay,
see obviously the Cleveland Cavaliers are they just like the best.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Team and it just might as well put them in
the finals.
Speaker 9 (23:56):
I wouldn't say, I don't think so at this point.
I think that the two teams they've faith they've lost
to in the last couple of weeks, Cleveland Oklahoma City.
Neither of them are afraid of the Celtics, and both
of them have means to beat the Celtics. The Cavaliers
have the two bigs in the middle and Allen and Mowgli.
The Celtics have still not learned how to stop or
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it contained Donovan Mitchell, and then they got the shifty
and crafty Darius Garland who can just get to the
rim you know when he wants. And the same with
Oklahoma City in terms of just the thunder are just
so deep. They bringing guys out there that you know,
they've had all these years of draft picks and all
these guys that never really heard of, and they played
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so well together as a team, even out without Jalen
Williams last night. So I think the Celtics at this
point are the third best team, but obviously they're the
defending champs. Will they flip the switch to become a
juggernaut in the playoffs? We'll see. I mean, they've got
to get healthy, they got to get Christats or Zingis back,
and I think they're a different team team with him
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in that lineup, and they are the team, you know,
close to the team that people think they are in
that could the pe.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Gary.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Let's go to the NBA MVP and where are you?
I mean, we know what SGA has done leading the
league in scoring, but but man, Nicola Jokic has been
unbelievable in that thirty twenty twenty game. It's gonna be
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hard for anybody who takes a look at his season,
you know, averaging a triple double, but not to think
about that game as something that you had never seen before.
Speaker 7 (25:39):
Where are you on the MVP and where the race is?
Speaker 9 (25:43):
Yeah, I'm probably leaning toward SGA. Just the leader of
a team that's got the best record of the second
best record in the league. They lead the West file.
I think eleven games there getting it doone winning wise,
I mean, he scored how many games of a consecutive
point twenty point games? He's unstoppable, he can get to
(26:03):
the he freaked the line when he wants. I mean,
he's crafty. I just think I think there's a little
voter fatigue for for Yokick, and that's not fair that that.
Speaker 7 (26:13):
Every time I hear that, I think it's ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
And I'm gonna say this. They gave they gave. They
gave Brett Fair three.
Speaker 7 (26:19):
NFL MVPs in a row.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
I mean, like since win I just Barry Bond, Mary Bond,
you cover baseball, won seven National League MVPs because he
was the best player.
Speaker 7 (26:31):
I mean, I I think that voters who do that, they.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Do an injustice, uh to to the players. I think
next last year shouldn't matter what happened.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
I just shouldn't.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
I think that they job Lamar Jackson out of an
m v P for what reason.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
I have no idea.
Speaker 9 (26:50):
I agree Rob, but I do think it's gonna be
voter m VP, especially since Oklahoma City is fulfilling all
their expectations. They're they're the best team by fall in
the Western Conference and in the NBA along with Cleveland.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
But see Gary.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
My pushback thoughays Russell Westbrook won an MVP, was a
sixth seed, Nobody, nobody looked and said, well, he's the
succeeed he did something nobody had ever done and in
fifty years or whatever it was with the Big O
and the triple averaging a triple double.
Speaker 9 (27:19):
So I agree, I'll go with what your your close
friend Vinny Goodwill said. I think voters in that year
fell in love with the word ten or starting with
the letter to number ten, the letter ten, number ten
and the triple double just mesmerized people because it had
not been done since the Big All. And I think,
and I think people Westbrook in as much as he
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has his critics, if you watch that guy play in
the motor that he plays with and the fiercest that
he plays with, I think it's just a it was
an admiration and kind of like a tip of the
cap for Westbrook that year that hey, man, like you
literally carry this team, carrying it without Kate, with KD
kind of bailing on you and going to Golden State.
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You're the guy who's carrying his team. You're doing everything,
You're rebounding, you're running the floor. You don't have any
friends on the floor. I mean, he's one of those
guys that doesn't like any of his opponents, which is
which is something we're cheering for because now these guys
are signing each other.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Oh buddies, Yeah, go after random regularation so ridiculous.
Speaker 9 (28:26):
Wearing each other's shoes on the floor's like, goodness, Gary.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
I think uh do just to put a button on
that Westbrook conversation. I also think that's because it was
the first time it happened in fifty years. Now he's
Russ himself had another couple of seasons of triple doubles.
Now you got Jokic, it's less, it's still incredible. I
think people have become used to where's Russell the first time?
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Joka?
Speaker 7 (28:47):
This is these numbers are better than any of his MVP.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
But the same thing with Lamar, like.
Speaker 9 (28:53):
This is what prob of a little surprise that you
are because we all know, us old schoolers that the
assist is a a little different now than it was
in the eighties and nineties. I saw one play where
Jo handed the ball off behind the three point line
of Michael Porter Junior, who dribbled through three guys and
win a dunks and jokes got the assistant.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
Well, that's that's home cooking.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
You remember when John Stockton played if he passed if
cal malone, if he passed call malone, the salt and
pepper sit in the pregame, he got two assists.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
You already know that, Gary real quick for us. We
talked about this a little bit earlier. Just your thoughts,
you know, obviously covering Boston, covering teams up on the
East Coast, the Knicks. Right now, Tims, you got Tims,
You got Michael Bridges coming out talking, hey man, can
I get a break?
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Can we get some rest? Right now?
Speaker 4 (29:45):
And again, this is coming from a kid who played
over twenty four hundred straight games, So he's not a
kid who wants to load management.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
And I'm saying I need to break. This is Tim's downfall.
We've heard this before. What do you thought? What are
your thoughts on Tims? And Tim's kind of pushing back.
Speaker 9 (29:58):
Yeah, I mean I think this is who Tims is.
I mean, I think we all knew he took this job.
He's gonna run the guys into the Browns. So by
the time the playoffs come, the Nicks are gonna be tired.
I think that's the biggest, biggest fear. Because he trusts
five or six guys in that team. He's gonna play
him thirty five forty minutes. He's gonna play them extensive
(30:18):
minutes in a road game in Portland or a road
game at Charlotte, and those guys are gonna get tired.
And I just think we all kind of knew this
is Tims is not doing something that we haven't seen before.
This is what what a Chris Ross said, The Tiger
went Tiger. I mean, this is Tims being Tims. I
(30:40):
just think this is who he is. This is why
he hasn't been unable to lead a team to the final,
and he's only gotten to a certain level is because
one he doesn't trust some of his players. He doesn't
put that that faith and is deep into his bench.
And that's why other coaches are more successful, because you've
got to trust these guys. This is not the old days.
You can't play everybody forty two minutes a game, So
(31:02):
they gonna come back be ready to play a back
to back. This is a different This is a low
management here. We all know that.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
Yeah, Gary Man, We appreciate you, Gary washing right there,
Buddy Club National NBA writer again, g Washburn Globe on X,
Thank you Man, appreciate you.
Speaker 9 (31:17):
Thanks God. Yep.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
Shop Talk, Well, see what Rob G's cooked up for
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That's dangerous. Man chair starting to take people out.
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Okay, Manzi, it is the OCABA Rob Parker Kelvin, Washington
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Ain't nobody ain't nip being a bump shop?
Speaker 5 (32:22):
You know that.
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Ain't nobody you talking about whoever, whatever whatever you want
to in the boshup?
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Why you no wit shop talk?
Speaker 3 (32:30):
That's right?
Speaker 5 (32:30):
It is shop talk Here on the od couple of
Fox Sports Radio SI, when we talk about something happening
outside of the world of sports. This week's topic comes
to us from the world of aviation. I know Rob
Parkerd about this one because he loves a good deal.
Southwest Airlines is given the big middle finger to all
their loyal travelers by getting rid of the first two
(32:51):
bags fly free.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
That ain't gonna happen no more.
Speaker 5 (32:53):
They already didn't have first class they you know, so
you're already only flying coach. Now getting rid of the
one of the things that people went to them the
most for the free bags flying and they're gonna be
adding something called the basic fare, which I didn't even
know they had a lower tier from just hey want
to get away to get whatever seat that you show
(33:14):
up in.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
It is what it is.
Speaker 5 (33:15):
They're gonna have an even cheaper version of That's here's
the question, guys, do you number one, have a problem
with this, and number two as a bigger question when
brands step out of their comfort zone, whether it's Southwest
no longer wanting to be the budget airline, when it's
Taco Ball adding Chicken Wings, you had a problem with it.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Go ahead, Rob, Well, of course, I've never been a
big Southwest guy. It always felt like I was, you know,
flying on a bus because there's no seats and all that.
And the one thing that's great is the no bag
And for people who are looking to save money, that's huge.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
A lot of places charge you.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Forty five, fifty sixty maybe at the gate ninety one
hundred if you don't check, you know, and you try
to bring a bag on. So you talk about two
bags at four let's just say forty bucks. That's eighty
each way. That's a big about a lot of money.
And now you don't have like the greatest seating situation.
(34:19):
The flights are you gotta stop everywhere. There's not a
lot of direct flights. There's a lot of things wrong
with that. I think that they just hurt themselves big time.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
You know what's interesting about this when you look at
some of the brands and companies that are having massive success.
You know it's the actual and then they literally have
done massive business surveys and studies on this. You know
what the number one thing is customer service going over
and beyond. You know why everybody goes to Chick fil A,
Chick Away sandwiches are good and the fries, it's because
(34:48):
you know they're gonna get it right. They're gonna be polite.
Hey cant get Honeybuster Chick fil A and Barbecue. They're
not gonna be stingy as seventy cents. They're gonna throw
you how many you want. They just shooting them in there,
like Steph Curry. They don't care, right. They will chase
you down Rob Geef, you walk away, sir, your ice tea,
They will chase you down Ventura like they don't play.
(35:09):
And so what's interesting to me is how these brands
don't get that that customer service, not penny pinching, going beyond.
You create loyal customers, and people will come and they'll spend.
And if your in and out prices have to go
up just a little bit, you're okay with that because
they've been good to you for so long. They mastered
what they do again, another place with amazing customer service.
(35:30):
You've never left in and out mad, and if they
do mess it up to one out of one thousand times,
they'll take care of you. So I said that to say,
I'm blown away that these brands and companies don't get
that we don't mind paying a little bit more. If
the customer service is grade. You taking care of us,
you're doing right by us. Penny pinching and trying to
find ways to make a buck charging for water and everything.
That's just crazy, man, I don't get it.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
Monty.
Speaker 5 (35:53):
I'm with you, guys.
Speaker 13 (35:54):
I'm not a fan of Southwest because I don't like
the like go fight for your seat, but I would
always still fly because they weren't charging me for bags.
Speaker 7 (36:02):
So I was like, okay, cool now with this.
Speaker 13 (36:05):
Change, and I know they're supposed to go to a
signed seating, but I just flew Southwest and they don't
have that yet, so you still it's a free for
all still, And now with the now that you're gonna
charge me, it's just gonna be like, oh well, now
I'm gonna look at other airlines for sure, When before
I wouldn't. I would just go straight Southwest and just
book it.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
That's it's a huge saving.
Speaker 5 (36:23):
Savings and it makes a big difference.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
It does everybody got it's already expensive.
Speaker 13 (36:27):
Flying, Yes, you know absolutely.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Rob G.
Speaker 7 (36:31):
Yeah, I'm with you, guys.
Speaker 5 (36:32):
I think people need to understand with any business, is
you get in where you fit in. Like if I
want to fly in a really not air amorist or
something like that, like I'm gonna get the cocoon service.
If I just want to get from A to B
Southwest Spirit Frontier, like that's where you live, that's where
you make your money.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
And I always go back to Costco. My dream is
to own a Costco one day forever.
Speaker 9 (36:52):
Reason.
Speaker 5 (36:52):
One of the things that their CEO said years ago
before he left, said, hey, we have been having dollars
fifty hot dog and drinks since the eighties. We're losing
money at this point, but brand loyalty. If the next
person who comes in from me and and changes the
price and goes to three dollars or whatever it is
to break even, I will come back from the day
(37:13):
and I will fight you. That's what he said, because
that kind of stuff matters to people, to customers.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
If you're so spending so much money exactly, and then
I could get a cheap lunch, you know what I
mean on that day to not go in and I
don't feel like That's like you go to Vegas and
it used to be like there's always they don't used
to charge you for parking and stuff because they want
you to spend the money in the casino and not feel.
Speaker 7 (37:35):
Like exactly right right.
Speaker 13 (37:37):
I don't know how marketing people at Southwest weren't just like, hey,
let's just raise up prices by ten dollars, not tell
them and that'll cover.
Speaker 7 (37:44):
Like exactly, you could have done it quietly been.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
Here then everybody else.
Speaker 7 (37:50):
I don't get that, Alex, where are you on on
the charge it.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
For the bags?
Speaker 8 (37:57):
Simon Ci Some of us have to train the next
upcoming town of the world, So I will say this
flying is already sketchy. I don't like being in a
sardine can with people I'll never meet again, smelling their
own or listening to their children that I didn't birth.
So to know that I have to pay more or
less to fly with these people is disgusting.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
I know you're not so you're not flying fly No,
I hate flying.
Speaker 7 (38:14):
Flying, fourteen hours to Australia, overall water.
Speaker 8 (38:18):
I'll take a boat.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
Okay, I'll chance.
Speaker 5 (38:19):
It knowing him people I don't know, and I'm ever
meet again.
Speaker 4 (38:23):
Knowing him, like, oh no, we'll just do a canoe.
It's awesome, Like you just stop in the MILLI yo,
I'm to pack sandwich kayak. I'll pack sandwiches.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
You know.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
I make these amazing almonds, almond butter sandwiches. It's amazing.
We'll get there three bucks, who cares? Or workout. I'll
just paddleboard the whole thing.
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