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October 10, 2025 35 mins

Rob and Kelvin take Brian Daboll to task for being more worried about his own job security than the health of Jaxson Dart, and debate whether the Cleveland Browns are mishandling Shedeur Sanders. Plus, former NFL quarterback and FOX Sports Radio NFL analyst Shaun King swings by to discuss all the biggest headlines around the league.

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(02:21):
Matthew Stafford is the best quarterback in the NFL. He's
still trying to sell me that. I'm just feel bad
for you.

Speaker 4 (02:28):
Really were taking it back by that?

Speaker 1 (02:29):
Yeah, I mean, and I don't think he texted me
last week because it wasn't good enough, but he did
the week before. Anyway.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
All right, Rob g let's go here.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
We do have there's some little news about what happened
last night in the game with Giants coach, Brian's day
ball and what's happening. Sure, set the table one more time.
Don't use that. It's derogatory.

Speaker 5 (02:55):
That's what I'm here for, to setting the table. No,
no said cut the lawn. I'll do something like that.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
That would be wash caution.

Speaker 5 (03:06):
So if you watch the game, you saw late in
the third quarter that Jackson Dart took a shot and
he had to get taken to the blue medical tent
to be evaluated for a concussion. What you may or
may not have seen during the broadcast, though, was that
Brian Daball, head coach of the Giants, followed Dart into
the blue tent because he wanted to see what was
going on and he had a big fourth down call

(03:26):
coming up and he wanted to know if he's gonna
have his quarterback or not. Later, he was seen getting
real we'll say, animated with the team doctor about what's
going on with Jackson Dart. Ultimately, Dart was clear to
return to play. He ended up missing two plays later.
What they say was coincidental. I don't know what that's
supposed to mean. But as a result of the whole ordeal,

(03:46):
the NFL and the PA are both investigating the situation
determine whether or not Brian Dable and the New York
Giants violated the concussion protocol. In fact, things got so
bad that the Giants owner John Marra had to come
out and say that he's talked to coaching day Ball
and that while he agrees with Daball that he wasn't

(04:08):
trying to influence the doctor to allow him to get
dark to play him going into ten. Number one is
inappropriate a number two. It was just a bad look
for all parties involved.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
And I'm with the owner. I'm serious.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
It was a bad look and he gave coaches a
bad name. And he's the worst kind of coach because
while their job is to try to win the game,
and I get all that and play, the only thing
that matters more than winning the game is the health
of the players. And this exchange is angry exchange with

(04:42):
the doctor, as if that was going to oh okay,
oh coacho, What am I thinking put the kid back
in without me checking him or or whatever.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
Kelvin, That's not what this is about.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
That's why there's protocol, and that's why I've always had
a problem with doctors being team doctors in pay by
the team. They should be independent paid by the National
Football League, do you do you know what I'm saying,
so that they don't have to fear like, oh, the
coach is gonna, I can't get the players on the
field fast enough for whatever. So they're gonna next year,

(05:15):
they're gonna let me go and go get somebody out exactly.
And and and I think when you're getting paid by somebody,
you feel compelled.

Speaker 3 (05:24):
And and the that was that was grandstanding.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
Who was that for?

Speaker 3 (05:29):
That was for the cameras.

Speaker 4 (05:30):
I want my guy.

Speaker 3 (05:32):
Hey, Doc, he wasn't doing the bugs, bunny, what's up?

Speaker 6 (05:36):
Doc?

Speaker 1 (05:38):
He was actually like trying to intimidate the doctor.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
No, I'm gonna do the correct protocol.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
I'm going to see if this kid is okay before
we put them back out there. It looked bad.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
It was not.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
A good look for Brian Dabo.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
And thank god the Player Association with you know I
always have an issue with, is looking into it along
with the NFL.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
And if they talked to him and find out.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Or the doctor says, yeah, he was yelling at me
telling me to get him back out there on the
all circle he says, or whatever he needs to be
fine because that that's a bad look and they should
send that video to all the coaches with an email
this will not be tolerated.

Speaker 4 (06:23):
He got over he got over zealous rob a couple
of ways.

Speaker 7 (06:28):
One if he just went in the tent and ultimately
did realize I shouldn't have. But I was just saying, baby,
all right, you're good in there? Okay, baby, you know,
like yeah, just checking it. We could all go, hey,
you shouldn't be in there, but we can understand. You
can't double up and compound that we're having a whole
mental breakdown on the sideline going off on the doctor
like what was that?

Speaker 4 (06:47):
The doctor's looking like what did I be wrong? Like? Right, man?
And why are you yelling at me?

Speaker 7 (06:54):
And the funniest part is I laughed because I said, dang,
is Russell Wilson this bad?

Speaker 4 (06:59):
That you're gonna crazy on the dock for a couple
of plays.

Speaker 7 (07:02):
You can't say you can't do a drive, you can't
do one quarter where you know, hey, hold it down.
Let's make sure our guy Jackson Dart is okay. And
he took it too far again. I understand the human
nature that you know the element that makes you want
to go check on your guy while you're not supposed to.
I think we can at least understand that, Hey, go
check it until you are right.

Speaker 4 (07:21):
You okay, You're good. I can understand that. But to
have a whole breakdown on the sideline was a bad
look for him because it just didn't make sense, especially
knowing what the league is trying to at least do
when it comes to concussions. And keep in mind, one
of the unfortunate faces of this is Tua and I
think there's you know, we're all more aware of it
because we've seen quarterbacks get hit a lot as specifically

(07:43):
too over the last two three years. He's got to
become the poster child for this.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
And Dawna is reckless. I'm running in the defenders.

Speaker 4 (07:51):
Like sticking his head into That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
Like, he's reckless and he's not gonna have a long
career if he keeps doing that.

Speaker 7 (07:57):
He's gotta go calm it down. He's got to go
talk to Jayden Daniels was great at sliding. Russell Wilson
is great. Actually, he should be asking him his teammate.
Russell Wilson played baseball. He knows how to slide.

Speaker 4 (08:09):
Absolutely, he's great slide and getting out of the way.

Speaker 7 (08:11):
So he's gonna have to because he he is scatterable,
buy into the buy any means necessary, running into you know,
running into anybody playing three years exactly, and it won't last.
And if Jackson Dart is as good as he thinks
he is, and what is going to mean to this
team with fans day ball and everybody hopes that he is,

(08:32):
They're gonna need him and he's gonna have to check
that at the door. I love the athleticism. I love
that he runs, and that's what the modern quarterback is.
In fact, I was telling Rob g I think Jared
Goff is gonna be like the last of the Mohicans,
as they say, the last person to kind of your
traditional drop back quarterback, because if you look around the league,
everybody runs at least a little bit, So Jared Goff's

(08:54):
like the last. I ain't running nowhere, I'm just throwing
the ball and Jackson Dart is that. I like that
he ran for sixty something yards I believe it was,
and obviously got a touchdown running, but he's got to
be more careful. But as far as Dave ball. Yeah,
he's probably gonna end up getting some similance of a.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
Fine from where he deserves a fine, whether.

Speaker 7 (09:11):
It be the team, he's gonna get a fine because
you can't again, Rob, you can't compound it, you can't go.

Speaker 4 (09:17):
Into booth, and you can't have a whole.

Speaker 7 (09:19):
He went crazy on the doc and I was weirded
out by that, Like, why are you mad at the doctor?

Speaker 1 (09:24):
I've been watching the NFL, I'm seriously since I was
a kid, and obviously covering it since nineteen eighty seven.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
I've never seen a coach go after a doctor. That
was so weird, have you no? And you know what
that was, I've never seen it.

Speaker 7 (09:38):
That was we're rolling. My guy's playing good. We got
a chance to you know, we got them on the rope. Now,
how to heat my guy out there? And he ignored
he ignored the protocol, which again, dude, he might be
right back out there. Take it easy, relax and if
he's as good as you think he is, and he's

(09:59):
what you all hope it will be, you're gonna wint
up for eight to twelve years, So take it easy
on this particular game. But he got caught, so caught
up in trying to win the singular game that he
almost could have potentially messed around and lost the battle.

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Speaker 7 (10:31):
Well, you gotta just take it. You don't ask, then
you ask for permission later. Oh forgiveness?

Speaker 1 (10:35):
I mean, oh yeah, no, very very nice. H eight
seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven nine
nine six sixty three sixty nine. Yeah, this was unusual,
and I don't know. I get your point. You're rolling,
you don't want anything to change, but it just felt
like there was some grand standing.

Speaker 4 (10:54):
No, he went on the side of the sideline.

Speaker 7 (10:56):
Part again, I'd be willing to give Hi mulligan to
the tent rob.

Speaker 4 (11:00):
You know, you're just your natural human.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
Is what he was like, jowing at the doctor like
that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (11:04):
That part was like, Okay, what's going on there? The
doctor didn't tackle him. The doctor they like, what did
I do? I'm sitting here just doing my job. That
part was weird. That part was please, please, please please
please put my guy in please please, I need him.
We're winning, we're winning, we're winning. We don't win a
lot of games. I need help give my guy back
in there.

Speaker 4 (11:19):
Please please. That's what that was.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
Yeah, that was just not a good look.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
And I'm not surprised, and it'll be interesting to see,
but I'm sure they'll be an email to all coaches.
I'm convinced that they're gonna get a video, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 4 (11:33):
The league get video, they get players get video and
hits and whatnot. The video is gonna come out, and it.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
Just says that this is not what the protocol.

Speaker 7 (11:41):
Oh real quick, Rob, I want to throw this at
you because you had mentioned it.

Speaker 4 (11:44):
One of the things that they did have in there.

Speaker 7 (11:46):
They do the only persons allowed in the ten is
the player, the team doctor, and an independent.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
Okay, so there you go.

Speaker 4 (11:51):
So they do have it, and I wanted I meant
to tell you that.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
He so he doesn't. He's not he can't even go
into ten.

Speaker 4 (11:57):
It's correct, that's where the whole thing that's.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
Oh no, he's got he's got a fine, then come yeah,
you can't come.

Speaker 7 (12:02):
You can't come in the ten the only three people
are allowed, the player of the team, doctor in an
an independent doctor. And then and then the sideline, you know,
melt down too. So I think those two things, some
type of fifty twenty five thousand dollars fine is gonna
come down.

Speaker 4 (12:15):
No doubt, not even that much. Maybe it's fifteen.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
Eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven, seven
nine nine six sixty three sixty nine. Did you have
a problem with Brian Daybol's actions last night? Do you
think he was more worried about his own job security
than the health of Jackson Dart Well, you know, winning
that game, You know what I mean. We'll continue that

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And what is the owner going to talk about that for?
But he knows.

Speaker 4 (13:48):
Here's the irony though.

Speaker 7 (13:49):
He had to talk about it because he's actually on
the committee that oversees that kind of stuff. So him
being on the committee, he almost had no choice but
to you know, oh shoot, let me let me speak
up about this because again I'm a part of that.
And again this is a national Thursday night standalone everybody's
watching game. Whether it will become a topic of conversation,

(14:12):
like what is Brian day Ball going crazy in the
sideline for whatever, not an offensive code coordinator or defensive
coordinator or one of the players or something where he's
you know, mad about a play called mad a guy
missed a tackle, yelling at a guy in a suit.

Speaker 4 (14:24):
It's kind of like, uh, what are we doing?

Speaker 1 (14:27):
Yeah, that was and that's why I felt like there
was some showmanship there, you know, like it just didn't
make sense.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
Once you went into the.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
Tent, You're already violated what you're supposed to and now
you're going to chew the doctor's yeo off.

Speaker 9 (14:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (14:42):
They they're gonna be an interesting team, the Giants, I
mean Dave Ball aside Jackson darr As we mentioned, he's
gonna have to learn. Dude, he's now high school where
we see that all the time, the tim Tebows of
the world, and uh, you know guys just running people
over and all that. This is a different You gotta
protect your body while making plays while getting third downs,

(15:03):
and they did a great job of that. They were
eleven or sixteen on third down efficiency. That's amazing right there,
you got twenty five first downs. But part of that
is we need to just get out of bounce part
of that is we need you to slide. Part of
that is just you know, knowing that you're valuable to
us and protecting yourself let alone. Obviously the powers that
be trying to protect quarterbacks. You gotta protect yourself. And

(15:24):
Scataboo is too kind of doing the whole grunk thing.
I'm crazy parents telling stories about he used to run
running the telephone poles with his older brothers, you know,
pads on and it's like, all right, I get it,
but again, you want to play this.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
Trying to make some narrow way you're trying to make,
you know what, like you know, tough goud crazy.

Speaker 5 (15:42):
Their video of him from last season at Arizona State
headbutting a brick wall before a game just silly.

Speaker 7 (15:47):
Yeah all right, bro, we get different. Yeah, okay, and
you're gonna be We're gonna have a thirty for thirty about.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
You too, right about how long it did not last?

Speaker 5 (15:56):
Ye?

Speaker 1 (15:57):
Rob, do you got to watching football for a long time?
Just should thought on Barden day ball? What did you
think when you saw it?

Speaker 6 (16:03):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (16:03):
Live?

Speaker 5 (16:04):
Oh, I definitely think he's worried about his joshuas more
than anything else, right like that, that's the only thought
that went through my mind.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
Because can't be about the player, No, not at all.

Speaker 5 (16:14):
I mean you saw him take a big hit, and
you've seen him take hits throughout his playing career as
brief it has been. Even back in the preseason he
got knocked out of a game for a concussion evaluation,
like the way the third one, Yeah, the way Jackson
Dark plays, he's gonna take shots and like somebody in
the back said that he uh was like the white
justin field and now I can't unsee.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
It, like the way he So that means he's not
gonna win any games either.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
He's already won too big, I'm sorry, too big.

Speaker 9 (16:42):
Though.

Speaker 7 (16:42):
It means he'll go forward too and then they'll not
play like, oh, let's go to Jameis Winston.

Speaker 5 (16:46):
No, but he puts his body on the line like
he's Cam Newton size and he's not. And so that's
something he really got. Cam Newton was a big man
man we saw. I don't think people really realize how
big Cam Newton is.

Speaker 7 (17:00):
There's a handful of people that everybody knows you're big
guy till you're next to him. One of mine was
and you were there, Rops so you probably obviously were
next to Calvin Johnson.

Speaker 4 (17:10):
We all know he's a bigger receiver.

Speaker 7 (17:12):
When you stood next to n He's not the biggest
as far as muscle mass or anything, but just the
average dB is five eleven is, you know, maybe six foot.
He is gigantic. I was like, who is jumping in
and hanging around and trying to tackle this guy?

Speaker 5 (17:26):
Those little dbs, you know, But that's what made Camp
so jarring. Is like the last time we saw him
in the Super Bowl, I saw him dapping up. I
want to say it was Chado Jo Sinko at the
radio row. You know, Chad's a good dude. Chad is
maybe five eleven six.

Speaker 4 (17:43):
No, no, he's probably six to two.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
He is not that tall.

Speaker 4 (17:46):
Chad.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
Well, if he is, he's slight, like he's a thin guy.

Speaker 5 (17:50):
And to see him next to a quarterback who makes
him look like he's a high school football player is crazy.

Speaker 4 (17:58):
Now you gotta be looking at what they listen him
because you guys.

Speaker 5 (18:00):
Like, once you divorce your your your your brain from
the fact that Cam's a quarterback and not a tight
end and not a d N like he is just
a massive human being.

Speaker 7 (18:11):
They let's chat at six to one, so maybe you're
maybe six and a half. You know what I mean,
because you know they always give you a little extra,
So maybe I wish they.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
Give me a little extra. I'm six, I'm talking about height.
What are you talking about? I'm just making out what
you're talking about height? Weren't you talking about?

Speaker 7 (18:27):
Make sure it's rob Listen, I'll be having PTSD with you.

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I never know where this is going alet.

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You know I'm keeping it clean. I'm I'm a company man.
I'm trying to do it right. You won't even swing
to somebody, that's right, I won't even swing.

Speaker 7 (18:40):
Yeah, I do need you to swing on somebody, cause
you may be mad with a couple of our conversations
over the last year.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
Well, let's fight me and you. We gotta fight. Do
we have to fight once?

Speaker 7 (18:49):
Well, I don't want to fight you, but I mean,
but I'm gonna need you to fight somebody. Somebody throws
a drink on you. I want you to say, I
was gonna open my mouth. No, I need you to
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Okay, No, it's an it's a fourteen dollars drink. I'm
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Speaker 4 (19:55):
What's up? Short?

Speaker 1 (19:59):
What's happening? Can he hear?

Speaker 2 (20:02):
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Got it?

Speaker 9 (20:04):
Fellers?

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There we go. What's up? Man?

Speaker 9 (20:08):
Hey, I'm just trying. I'm just trying to figure out, man,
why they want coach Jaleing hurts up man, that's.

Speaker 4 (20:13):
All we'll talk about it. Go there, What's what's the issue?

Speaker 9 (20:17):
Continuity? For as talented as he is mentally and from
a composer standpoint, he's never got to go in the
year two with a coordinator?

Speaker 1 (20:29):
Yup, there you go. They keep they keep changing coordinators, and.

Speaker 9 (20:34):
Because he's not a normal talented quarterback, it takes the
coordinators they hire an entire year to figure out what
he does well, what he doesn't do well. So you
always see him in your want of a system, even
though he's experienced. They won a championship, got to another
super Bowl, so he's never taken that next step. And
I just feel bad for him because I wish he

(20:55):
had a more stable environment so he could develop and grow.

Speaker 3 (20:59):
That's a great take.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
That sounds like you play quarterback in the NFL. I
love it.

Speaker 9 (21:04):
I appreciate you, Rob.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
You know, sometimes me and you butt heads, but I
love that take.

Speaker 4 (21:08):
Right there, Hey Rob, it's still early. We got another
six seven minutes.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
Let me ask you this, Sean uh Brian day Ball
looked like he was grand standing, going at it with
the doctor.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
What was that all about?

Speaker 1 (21:22):
Like the player's health should be number one, not trying
to pressure the doctor to put the kid back in.

Speaker 3 (21:29):
What'd you make of that?

Speaker 9 (21:32):
I don't think it was that funny pressure. I think
it was real love. You gotta think where Dave Ball
was here, heard that Daniel Jones, so he didn't draft
for whatever reason, Daniel never fit what he was trying
to do. They went out and paid Russe Wilson big money.
If it wasn't a Jackson Dark day, boll probably would

(21:53):
be if not already fired, getting fired somewhere before midpoint
of the season. Then you get a angel donor in
Jackson Dark obviously have a great relationship. Jackson fits exactly
what da Bo does because this is the thing people
are overlooking. Daveo excelled with who Josh Allen. Jackson Dark's

(22:15):
game is a lot like Josh Allen's game, and so
he finally has a quarterback that fits what he wants
to do. I think he was more concerned than anything else.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
Yeah, but you're not supposed to go into ten. He
did that, and then what's the extra sauce with the doctor?

Speaker 9 (22:30):
Is all I'm saying, Well, I get it, but it's
like if you've ever been in love the something happens
with the person you love. Whether it's your wife, your girlfriend,
your mother, your child. It might be some godlines you're
supposed to bye bye. But if you think that person
you love is at harm's way, you kind of get
emotional in that moment.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
If you put two twenties on the nightstand, you're in
love with him or not.

Speaker 3 (22:53):
I'm just asking, well, I mean.

Speaker 9 (22:55):
There is what station live in. I get in trouble
from places, I'll make the night's love it?

Speaker 4 (23:02):
Dang Rob, That was sounded like some nineteen seventy two prices.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
Right, well, Hey, I once went to Montreal, Canada to
a strip club and it was five dollars a day
in to us. You know what I mean with the
exchange rate, it was unbelievable.

Speaker 9 (23:18):
I may, I may or may not have been an
establishment that people label as a strip club. But out
of all the things in America with a pricing has
gotten outrages that should be number one on the list.

Speaker 3 (23:28):
No, no, no, no, no no, it's number two.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
Number one is one hundred dollars haircut?

Speaker 4 (23:34):
Am I right?

Speaker 3 (23:34):
Kelvin or seventy?

Speaker 9 (23:36):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (23:36):
Hey, y'all listen, how much did your haircut?

Speaker 1 (23:38):
Sean I mean, it's seventy five dollars for a haircut.

Speaker 9 (23:42):
Now, So I've got a rule, and I've got a
barber that takes care of me, and he charges me
twenty five dollars.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
Oh my god, are you seriously?

Speaker 4 (23:51):
Is he eighty eight years old?

Speaker 6 (23:53):
No?

Speaker 9 (23:53):
No, here's what I want barbers to understand out there.
I pay him fifty. If he charged me forty, wouldn't
give them a kill.

Speaker 3 (24:01):
People are getting one hundred dollars doing, Am I right? Kelvin?

Speaker 1 (24:04):
People are paying one hundred dollars for.

Speaker 9 (24:08):
Here's what I'm saying. If you give me fair work
for what you're paid to do, I will take care
of you. I would send people to you. If you
try to take advantage of me, that would be the
one and only time you ever cut my hair. And
I won't tip you.

Speaker 4 (24:22):
No, that's real.

Speaker 7 (24:23):
And the worst part about it to both of your
points is, you know, you know, especially if it's somebody new,
new barber maybe going somewhere and they're like, oh, yeah, man,
what do you do? And then you mentioned anything about
what we do for a living, they kind of that
probably yeah, how much ill are you?

Speaker 9 (24:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (24:38):
Usually I'll do about four that if you know, do
about eighty. But I'm gonna do seventy five for you? What? Yeah,
they got carried away with that? All right? Rob? You
I one or you want me to go? Go ahead?
I'm looking at Sean Sean King. I guess too.

Speaker 7 (24:52):
By the way, a couple Robin Kevin on a funcky
flashback Friday.

Speaker 4 (24:56):
I want to go to what the Browns are doing.
We'll have a little bit longer conversation on that. But
just what do you make of this?

Speaker 6 (25:03):
Is?

Speaker 4 (25:03):
This? Is this normal? My issue? Was you just normally
say who the backup is playing? And simple?

Speaker 7 (25:09):
No matter who it is, is just the normal. Hey,
here's our starter, here's a backup. Why was this so different?

Speaker 9 (25:15):
Because the Browns are one of the dysfunctional organizations in sports,
and I pride myself on knowing how to develop, build
and run football programs.

Speaker 3 (25:27):
Hey, the ownership one nothing Mariners. I want to get
that in one nothing Mariners.

Speaker 9 (25:32):
Okay, Yeah, nobody cares about baseball rock.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
But you got what's a playoff game? All right?

Speaker 9 (25:39):
Hey, what the brown should do is hire me to
be the GMS. Okay, because here's how I would have
operated it different. There was no reason to waste the
off season if you're gonna draft two quarterbacks cause kindy picket.
I mean, you see Sam Donne and you see Beackham Mayfield.

(25:59):
That's not normal, right, normally when the guy has washed
up multiple times in different places. And I know he
wasn't a full time start in Philly, but he was
overdrafted coming out. He's not going to turn into something
he never was. No matter what happened with Joe Flacko,
that wasn't going to solve your problem. The entire offseason.
Should have been getting Dylan Gabriel and should do a

(26:21):
standards reps. And I said this on the show that
I'm doing Cleveland called an Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show Jay Crawford,
by the way, Rob hosts the show.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
Oh yeah, we have Jay one.

Speaker 9 (26:34):
As Jay what I said? And they thought it was ludicrous.
I said, I would have told our fan base and
the public, we're gonna alternate starts between Dylan and Shador
because we want to give both of them in their
opportunity to go out and put information lunacy.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
What what you what you're not understanding is that the
general manager and the coach have jobs and that is
not that sounds good, like let's just play along and
let's let's like see what happens or whatever. People have
paid big money for tickets, sponsorships.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
No, nobody's going for that, Sewan. That sounds like a
minor league.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
If you're if you're running a football team in New Haven, Connecticut,
people have spent money and and they've won three games
last year, and you think you have job security, GM
or coach, Please that that's not gonna work.

Speaker 9 (27:27):
Here's what you're showing your age. There was a point
in the National Football League where they would have said
the same thing about a person saying, Who're gonna play
the majority of our offense from the shotgun position. But yeah,
football is evolved now, now that's normal.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
Just give me another example where they tell a fan
base buy tickets and we're going to see who's good
or who's bad and alternate. Nobody then pick a quarterback.
You're supposed to be the one to evaluate and make
the right decision. If one guy doesn't play well, then
you play the other guy in. That's that's the way
football and sports has always been.

Speaker 9 (28:04):
So this is where I distanced myself from you. From
an elite expert standpoint, I know how to evolve in pivot.
We have a deficiency.

Speaker 4 (28:17):
It's we have it.

Speaker 9 (28:17):
We don't have a franchise quarterback. We chose not somebody else.
We chose to draft two rookie quarterbacks. We like both
of them. Heyton Manning through twenty eight interceptions in his
rookie year. If he did that now, people would call
him a bus We have a guy in Dylan Gable,
and the guy should do it. Sayingas we like both
of them, we're going to see through the course of

(28:40):
this year, do we have a franchise quarterback in one
of these young men. We're asking you all, as our
fan base, to be patient with us, because if you're
patient this year, guess what it might guarantee the next decade.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
How About if they're both bad. How about if they're
both bad and you realize neither one is gonna be good?

Speaker 3 (28:56):
You got de Sean Watson there, Come on, man on
that that that makes no sense.

Speaker 9 (29:01):
I'm sorry, Rob, listen, I'm against let me talk something
cutting me off, then I know that I need to
take a quarterback and next year's draft. By playing Joe
Flatco and cheaping those guys off the field, I get
to the end of the season, and I still don't know.
That's where it makes sense. You gotta find out.

Speaker 7 (29:23):
Well, you've been saying what I've been saying around Joe Flacco,
Russell Wilson, running out these repeats and recycles.

Speaker 4 (29:29):
I never understand it.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
That told you why did God? Youre trying to hold
onto their jobs.

Speaker 4 (29:33):
That's and then the where and where is Joe Flacco
a whole different team? He star?

Speaker 7 (29:39):
Russell Willis is still starting in the NFL. He's starting
because Joe he's still starting. Somebody trading, he's just starting.
He's just starting.

Speaker 4 (29:50):
Wilson making Dave Bo Brian Dabo so bad he losing
it against.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
Nothing that that don't even make sense. You're talking about, Well,
where's him now? He where's flat? He's a starter in
the NFL because somebody still believes that.

Speaker 7 (30:02):
Come on, that better, you're he's starting for Browning for
the bagels. We'll talk more about on the other side.

Speaker 9 (30:09):
Can I make a macro point right quick?

Speaker 1 (30:12):
Because you got thirty seconds? Thirty seconds? Come on, we're
way behind me.

Speaker 9 (30:16):
Let me let me hurry up there. It's better to
not have a quarterback, get to have somebody that's not
the quarterback playing quarterback for you.

Speaker 4 (30:26):
There you have it, all right, Sean.

Speaker 9 (30:28):
Arizona about Tyler Murray's contract in the Miami about to us.

Speaker 4 (30:33):
No, I get it, I get it. We appreciate you,
Sean Matt, thank.

Speaker 9 (30:36):
You all right. Love y'all go man and forget the Tigers.

Speaker 5 (30:40):
There you go.

Speaker 4 (30:43):
And I knew y'all was gonna get it. I told
you it was too early.

Speaker 7 (30:45):
Y'all acting a kumbaya And we got more on this
the Shador Big quarterback number two for the Browns. On
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Speaker 4 (31:49):
I just I genuine.

Speaker 7 (31:51):
You can put your door, you can put Joe Montana,
you can put anybody. To me, I just thought it
was really strange, rob because sometimes you know, you can
make something a big deal by trying to like not
making a deal, meaning if they just comeing, hey, what's up.
All right, so we're gonna start Dalan Gabriel Shodor it's
gonna be our number two, or Zappie's gonna.

Speaker 4 (32:11):
Be a number two. You and I would talk about
it for a day, so everybody and then we move on.

Speaker 7 (32:15):
Every single Sunday somebody comes in with a quarterback and
a backup. It's been happening for eons, not a big deal.
And to me, they made it weird, always just trying
to say we want to put him in the right
this is what but this.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
Gives you more reason on why you don't want to
should door Sanders seriously because you're right, Normally it shouldn't
be a big deal, Okay, but because of the way
people have all been out there, how many Eric Dickerson,
Now there was a conspiracy, the league said, don't draft him,
all this other stuff, right, there were other people all

(32:48):
you know, they're trying to put him in his place.
Oh they're doing this to him, They're doing that to him,
all this other stuff, rather than maybe they don't think
that as highly a him as other people, all the
people that they have in their quarterback room. I just like, so,
so no matter what you do this, somebody's going to
criticize you, thinking that you're trying to hold him down

(33:10):
or do something other than what you normally do. I
just I think that I think that's why nobody wanted
Tim Tebow once they realized he wanted to starting quarterback.

Speaker 3 (33:20):
Once they realize so I think he can't play.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
But no, on once they realized That's what I said,
Once they realize he can't, he can't be a starting quarterback,
nobody wanted him as a backup.

Speaker 4 (33:32):
I think the difference, Well, I'll start let me say this,
So I think.

Speaker 7 (33:37):
The way in which they're handling it continues to prove
that this is a unique situation.

Speaker 4 (33:42):
Meaning if they just went, oh, hey, this is our guy.

Speaker 7 (33:44):
He ain't good enough right now, he's a backup, then
we all go, oh, okay, well, dang, I guess he
ain't good enough or he is. He's the backup. He's
not starting, Becau, Dylan Gabriel is our guy. We picked
him third. But the way they're making it, oh, we
just want to put him in the right position, Like
they're talking like he's a starter. We want to we
want to draw up the right offense and make sure
he's in the best possible position. Dude, it's a backup

(34:04):
right now. Jack Goff, Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen. They getting
ready to go to the game and they're gonna have
the game plans for the starters Matt Stafford and Justin
Herbert and so on and so forth. Nobody's like, Oh,
we're just trying to make sure it's the perfect scenario
and the right thing and it's the right time for
back It's really really, really really strange, and another example
of when.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
You go I just think that I just think that
people have gotten into their feelings when it comes to
Shador if you're a fanboy or you're a fan of
him or whatever it is. And I just think, I
just the Browns haven't had success. They've won three they
won three games last year. I just I disagree with
you totally that the Browns are doing something that's that's

(34:46):
underhanded or like like they like they can't figure it
out or whatever.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
If they really believe he could save their season and
win games, I believe he would be playing.

Speaker 4 (34:56):
I just I do.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
I don't understand what you game by putting somebody else in.
If you really believe that you lucked out in the
fifth round and you got your quarterback of the future,
I don't you practice.

Speaker 3 (35:09):
More than you play. They've watched this kid prepare and practice.

Speaker 4 (35:13):
I don't. I don't believe it.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
I just don't.

Speaker 7 (35:16):
So my whole issue is being what we were just
talking about with Sean. I never understood, and you disagree,
but I never understood that Joe Flacco like they got
exactly what you do.

Speaker 4 (35:24):
Understand.

Speaker 7 (35:25):
I don't want a game. He threw what six interceptions?
I mean, he looked terrible, and I just didn't understand.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
That's why he has a job, a starting job in
the NFL, because you look terrible.

Speaker 7 (35:34):
Right, He is terrible, and browning is worse. That wasn't
a brownie. Was not the measuring stick. Hey I'm slightly
better than browning. That wasn't a measuring stick. Both bad
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