June 4, 2024 • 38 mins
Chris and Rob take the Chicago Tribune to task for their latest column on Caitlin Clark and it’s thinly-veiled racism and tell us why LeBron James is wrong when he says that Kyrie Irving is the most ‘gifted’ player in NBA history. Plus, NBA champion and FOX Sports Radio NBA analyst Antonio Daniels swings by to discuss Kristaps Porzingis’ impact on the Boston Celtics, how the Celtics can try to defend Luka Doncic and Kyrie Irving, the Los Angeles Lakers’ peculiar decision to hire JJ Redick as their next head coach and much more! Finally, the Odd Couple Callers bring the heat in this week’s edition of Trash Talk.
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to do your thing. Rob Parker, who you're trashing.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
I'm not trashing anyone today.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
You just feel too good I feel too good, I
feel epic, I feel Chris Yuphorick.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
It was that kind of day for real.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
You don't have that many days in your life, maybe
my wedding day.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Rob G is trashing you now?
Speaker 5 (01:44):
No, rob G, because I went soft A Is that
what you're saying?
Speaker 6 (01:47):
Right?
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Exactly? Rob Are you kidding me? This is your bit.
Speaker 7 (01:50):
We created an entire segment around you being I'm writing
I'm ripping, and now you have an opportunity to rip anybody,
and you're like, no.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
It just feels too good today. I just can't do it.
I just can't do it, rob G. You know I've
been through it, right, I've been through it.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Well, I can't respect that.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Let's it's okay you trashing anybody who's trashing, trashing the
Chicago Tribune. Okay, they wrote an editorial. I'm gonna let
Rob G summarize it and then get into my thoughts.
Came out yesterday editorial.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
It's it's an editorial that came out and people the.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Entire editorial board, the sports column or anything like that.
Speaker 7 (02:35):
So rather than just summarize it, I'm going to read
two small.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Paragraphs and let you guys be the judge. But this
is the gist of the story in this Chicrgo Tribune.
Speaker 7 (02:43):
The foul committed by Chicago sky guard Kennedy Carter was egregious.
Outside of a sporting contest, it would have been seen
as an assault. Even within a sporting context.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
It was bad.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
They had later.
Speaker 7 (02:57):
Really there's more, Chris, I want you to hear this
last part. She has to compete, how with Kaitlyn Clark
on her own merits. But basketball has rules, and if
the WNBA choose her up and spits her out because
it is too afraid of being called racist to protect
her from a racially tinged animosity, or indeed from fouls
such as the one Carter committed, it will have done
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a huge disservice to its own game, now at a
major inflection point. Thanks in no small measure too. Yes,
Caitlyn Clark.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
I'm trashing the Chicago Tribune.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
That's week week.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
It would have been assault away from a basketball court.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
How much wouldn't be in a saul? What what fouls?
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Rob wouldn't be an assault away from a basketball I'm
assuming that they've never seen in a Chicago Blackhawks game.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Quiz.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Assault happens every ten.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Seconds, say football.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Watch the Bears lately right now, they're getting assaulted.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
They're not doing much as salty.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
But I mean, really, come on, man, and I mean
I'm sorry Rob. There's been a lot of talk from
people saying that Caitlyn Clark is getting all this attention,
or at least a lot of it because she's white,
because it's racism.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
I haven't seen it that way.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
I have said, Look, Diana Torazzi was white, is white,
Brianna Stewart is white, Sue Bird, Sabrina your NESCo. A
lot of WNBA stars or college stars have been white
in female basketball, and.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
None of them were championed like Caitlyn Clark.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
None of them captured the imagination of the public like
Caitlin Clark.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
So I think it's the way she plays, like Steph.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Curry, coind of logo, threes, great ball handling, great passing, vision,
all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
But there have been some instances of racism.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
One of them was when Iowa was invited to the
White House even though they lost. Tell us you, I mean, what,
all of a sudden, the first time you're gonna invite
the runner up to the White House. It just happens
to be a virtually all white team led by a
white star.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
I think that was some racism.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
And I think this column, which Rob, if you read
the whole thing, is written like Caitlyn Clark is some
princess who finds herself lost in a jungle, and oh my,
you better protect her these wild things out there that
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are going after That's how it read. Shame on the
Chicago Tribune. That was ridiculous, And to me that was
racist because there's an angel race getting hammered too foul
physically and and all that stuff, and I haven't seen
them right about her.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
I think, like, it's not just the physical.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
I mean, she's getting physical play, but some of that's
just you a rookie.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
And she's not the only one.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
We're focusing on her because of her stardom, but a
lot of them are getting that.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
But I just think that was ridiculous what the Chicago
Tribune did.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
Yeah, it just it just sounds way way off base.
Speaker 8 (06:30):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
It sounds like.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
They're overdoing it, Chris and trying to, uh say, leave
her alone, let her do whatever she wants, let her shoot,
leave her open, leave her leave her open.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
What are you doing? I mean, who are the other.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
Basketball players who were saying that they should be like
the w NBA is making a mistake.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
They should be like the w w EE.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Yeah, they should just.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
Just allow allow her to win the championship and move
out of the way and all that. You really, come on, man,
come on, and the same thing. If it's a foul,
crystal call it. If it ain't a foul, play on
It's so simple, so simple.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
I think some of the Tribune was because you read
the column, they were somewhat reacting. In my feeling, Rob
G you read it too, You let me know if
you agree. I think they were somewhat reacting to Whoopee
Goldberg and Sonny Houston on the View, who were basically
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defending Kennedy Carter's chop block on Caitlyn Clark and that
was bad. Like I'm like, look, sometimes like that was wrong.
Black people aren't perfect. We do things wrong. Sometimes that
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was wrong. And for Whoopy Goldberg and Sonny Hostin to
act like, oh, that's just part of the game. It
wasn't a basketball play. I'm not saying you gotta make
Kennedy Clark out to be some bad person. I'm not
saying that we've seen players do this type of thing,
but don't defend it.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
It was it was a dirty play.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
You can admit it was a dirty play and still
have your views on you think Caitlyn Clark's getting favorable
treatment because you white or whatever, But you can't defend
stuff that's just indefensible. And the league came back the
next day and said it was a flagrant one. It
was like, if you want to get back at Caitlyn Clark,
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who you know, threw an elbows.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
I saw it. I thought it was indecisive if I
saw the right video.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
But if you say she threw an elbow at Carter,
you want to get her back, get her back in
the during the game, and it still might be called
a foul. It still might be called a flagrant. But
if she goes to the whole foulerr hard something like that.
But this you can't defend Rob. It's like Karl Malone
when he hammered Isaiah Thommas.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
I I can't defend it.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
It was a dirty play, and so I think the
Tribune was responding to that.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Both of them, moron, both of them Maron.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
And this thing Rob has become really polarizing where it's
like people putting politics in this and taking you know,
almost like their political views are informing their view of this.
Call it like you see it. Kennedy Carter's shot shot
was dirty. We're not castigating her going forward. It was
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just a dirty play in that instance. And the Chicago
Tribune's column was definitely racist.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
To me, ridiculous. It just it just didn't make any sense.
Speaker 5 (09:53):
And to use the word assault, really, yes, did they
pull her hair? Did they hit her head on the
thank you?
Speaker 4 (10:00):
Concrete? Chris? Assault?
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Pumped?
Speaker 5 (10:03):
Isn't that a little a little excessive to call that
behavior assault? Was there a baseball bat on.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
The court, Chris? That I didn't see?
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Thank you?
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Was there a jump kick in the back where she
wasn't looking? You know? Like no, like I'm stopping stop.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
I mean, do you know when Draymond Green some of
the things he's done, and I know that's the obviously
he's black, But I'm just saying, like we've seen him
do worse on the court.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Rob, I don't know, is it somewhat sexist?
Speaker 1 (10:36):
It's saying that women shouldn't, you know, have hard fouls
and physical play.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
I just they they are wrong for that. It'll be interesting.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
I know it came out yesterday, so be interesting to
see what kind of responses they get from that. But Rob, again,
that was not a column by a in the sports section, right,
that was the editorial board of the paper.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Wow, I thought it was ridiculous. Sounds ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
All right, Well, Rob.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Lebron says something about Kyrie Irving that just didn't and
it was strange, And we'll get to that next a couple.
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his podcast with JJ Redick. Rob g all right, so
here's what he said about Kyrie obviously is about to
start the NBA Finals with the Dallas Mavericks.
Speaker 10 (12:48):
I will call Kyrie the Wizard all the time. There
was nothing on the basketball floor that Kyrie could do.
And sitting here watching it, I'm like, I'm playing like
so happy and so proud and to watch him and
continue his growth or whatever the case may be. And
(13:08):
at the same time I'm so mad at the same
time that I am not his running mate anymore. He's
the most gifted player the NBA has ever seen. He
has the best gifts I've ever seen any NBA player.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
I think Lebron misspoke Rob, like I think obviously Lebron
is a savant when it comes to the game. I
think he meant most skilled because kai gifts I think
of as height.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
That's just a gift. A gift is.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Something just given to you that you didn't really have
anything to do with. You just happen to be six
feet eight inches tall as a gift. Blazing speed, Alan Iverson,
dear Fox, that's a gift. I mean you can do
things to hone it, obviously, but dude, Alan Iverson was
(14:06):
just gifted with blazing speed and quickness. Hops viz Carter,
John Moran, Anthony Edward just gifted.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
That's a gift. They just were gifted with the hops.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Kyrie Irving is obviously a great athlete, but relatively speaking,
NBA point guard, two guard, whatever you want to call him,
I mean, he ain't the quickest by any stretch of
the imagination. He's not the strongest naturally, He's not jumping
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out of the gym.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
You know.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
I haven't seen any real, like incredibly incredible highlight dunks
from Kyrie. I think, like Kyrie, what makes him awesome
are skills that he worked at. He had to go
out and get through hard work, go out and purchase
if you will, through incredibly hard work and his handle
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that ain't a gift he just I mean, yeah, I
hand eye coordination and all that stuff, but his ability
to dribble that basketball the way he.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Does is from hard work. His jump shot hard work.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
And so I think I'm gonna assume Lebron misspoke and
use the wrong word.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Rob Lebron is more gifted than Kyrie just I mean
the size.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
The size, and the.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Speed, athleticism and his side. I mean, I would you
agree with me or what?
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (15:42):
I think that in his attempt at hyperbole and to
pay him homage. And even though even in the comment
it's basically you know, he's interjected in that about you know,
he's not my running mate, and you know, and I'm
like all that, you know, it's just a way of
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putting yourself in this.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
So you you feel like Lebron is like trying to
insert himself into Kyrie's glory.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
Yes, a little bit, Yeah, I just you know, I
got that. But it's just a hyperbole of you know,
wanting to say something glowing about him and getting carried away.
And we see that often, Chris, So it's not totally
shocking to me.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
But I'm with you on gifts compared to skill.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
And you could talk about Kyrie's dribbling that's a skill, right, yes, Yes,
his shot making ability that's a skill.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
When you're six foot eight and two hundred and forty.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
Pounds and don't have an ounce of fat on you,
that's a gift.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Right now, you're you're right on the mic, I mean
right there are.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
I mean we could name.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Dozens and it's not a slight to Kyrie because he's
obviously gifted in some way. You know, he doesn't you
have to be gifted with a certain level of athleticism
or size to play at this level in terms of basketball,
and he obviously is athletic. I'm just saying, compared to
the NBA players he's going against, he is not the
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quickest guard we've seen, by any stretch of the imagination.
He is not the strongest guard we've seen or the
highest jumping guard. So, I mean, rob it just you
could go we could go on for an hour naming
players who are maybe more gifted than Kyrie, but no,
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he Now Chauncey Billups said a few years ago, Rob
that Kyrie. I don't know if he said maybe.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Or is the most skilled player in NBA history.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
A few others have echoed that in the past few years,
and that's fair, you know, I mean, I I they're
certainly an argument there.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
He's in the discussion when you just.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Talk about footwork, handles, being able to score every level, offensively,
finishing ability. I mean, Kyrie is I've always said, or
you know, for a long time now, that he's the
best ball handler in NBA history. But like I said,
I gotta believe that.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Lebron meant skilled.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
But I'm interested in your take that Lebron's trying to
get a little shine.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
No, I'm just.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
I mean, he does have Anthony Davis, but it ain't
like the cupboards bear in that.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
But oh what could have been?
Speaker 4 (18:49):
You know what I mean? Like that was what it was,
I would have won, We would have won a lot more.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
What could have been if if this guy wouldn't have
abandoned me.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
I will say it just felt like he was to
get some shine, That's all.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
I will say this. I do know this from just
talking to people.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
From what I'm told, Kyrie like this kind of I mean,
obviously he's happy as a lark with Luca, but Rob
like his you know it's probably done now, but I
mean that talk, you know, over the past few years
about him wanting to play with Lebron and have a
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reconciliation on from what I'm told, that is real, Like
he understands that he made a mistake in leaving Lebron
and who knows what could have been had those two
stayed together.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
So I think it's a mutual love and respect there.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
It's unfortunate Rob and I mean I think it's mainly
on Kyrie. It's unfortunate that they couldn't. You know, Kyrie
you know, wasn't happy there, and one is to kind
of seek out and do his own thing. But look
he's gotten with Luca, and Luca is an all time
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upper echel in, all time great and a sability wise.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
We'll see if he wins rings to justify that claim.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
But.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
You know, he's in a great situation, right.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
I mean, what wouldn't it be interesting if they went
on a little tear. I mean, I'm not saying three straight,
but you know, win a couple championships Luke and.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Kyrie, that would be interesting.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
Yeah, I just think that would be real hard with
where the NBA is, the parody and then all the
good teams out west.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
It just sounds like a lot.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Now, well, it's gonna be interesting.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Does the parody remain or will a team emerge like
an all time great team emerge.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
To win a few championships. That's what That's what I'm
excited about.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
I think winby I mean, you know, I think Sky's
the limit with him, but it's probably a couple of
years away before he really is in the mix of
winning big. But yeah, it's gonna be interesting to see.
And if they could do that, that would really be
an interesting storyline, and Lebron might be involved in that
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storyline if that were to happen. All right, we got
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Speaker 3 (21:56):
How you How are you?
Speaker 8 (21:58):
I am awesome?
Speaker 11 (21:59):
True?
Speaker 8 (22:00):
How are you? Guys?
Speaker 3 (22:01):
We are great too, man, we are great.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Obviously we're all waiting for these NBA Finals to start
on Thursday, So I don't know if we've got from you.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Who is your pick and.
Speaker 8 (22:13):
Why I'm taking Boston? I'm taking bath who The reason
I'm taking Boston is because Boston has been the best
team in the league all year record wise, and you know,
I feel like with all this time off, people are
poking holes in the Boston Celtiics, like this is a
what sixty four win team?
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Yep, But you don't.
Speaker 8 (22:34):
Win sixty four You don't win sixty four games by accident.
You win sixty four games because you're really good offensively
and you're really good defensively. And I feel like the
health of Christousworthy and gets getting him back completely changed
to the equation. There's not another team in this league
that can do what Boston can do as far as
their top eight guys all being legitimate three point three.
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They don't have one guy and are their top eight
that you can say we'll live with that guy shooting
three we'll live with that guy, you know, we'll help
them with Jason Tatum and leave this guy open. They
don't have that guy. I know. Kyrie and Luca right
now are Rowland and Dallas. To me was the most
dangerous teams coming into the playoffs in the Western Conference.
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But I cannot bet against the Boston Celtics.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Let me ask you this.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
I'm with you today, Antonio. I'm with you on the Celtics.
It's just they're easy to pick at. They're not pretty.
They a lot of threes they have when they have
bad games. You know, when they have bad games, they're
really bad, you know what I mean. And people just
don't think much of them. But I'm with you.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
All they do is win.
Speaker 8 (23:42):
Right, Like, My thing about Boston is they are in
a win or lose situation. Like it's like people are
mad at them for Jimmy Butler and Terry Rose he're
not playing. People are mad at them for Jared Allen
and Donovan Mitchell not playing. People are mad at them
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for Teres Halliburton not playing. Like, you can't control who's
in front of you. You can't control It's not like
they can say, all right, well, you know what let's
hold on, Let's wait a minute, let's wait till everybody's
healthy and make man, you beat it who's in front
of you. And they've only lost two games so far
in this playoffs, and people are still picking holes at
the Boston Celtic. Well, but didn't win by this much
(24:26):
or they don't.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Anxiety what they're picking holes And I'm one of them.
I'm picking holes in the fact that they had to
be gifted game.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
One against Indiana.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
They have to make a shot, Chris would have been gifted.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
You still got to make sure gifted that they didn't
Indiana not calling didn't I finished, Indiana not calling the
time out, Indiana making bowl headed turnovers.
Speaker 8 (24:51):
For a mans A question about that? The man two
question about that? Why do we blame the opponent for
Indiana making the mistakes.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Because they were unforced some of them, but some of
them were unforced. No giving him.
Speaker 8 (25:10):
It's different. It's different that game.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
One that Indiana had in the bag. If they don't
make mistakes, they win game one. Now, I didn't think
they were gonna win the series.
Speaker 11 (25:20):
Chris.
Speaker 8 (25:21):
I cannot agree with you more. I cannot agree with
you more. But why are we holding that against Boston because.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
I'm like Indiana was not that good of a team,
especially when they lost Tyres Halliburton and still had chances.
They're but the Benion game three had chances to win.
I'm just saying Boston a close game here or there
is fine. Three of those four games Indiana had late leads,
(25:49):
good teams wins.
Speaker 8 (25:51):
Okay, So this is what I was saying about Boston.
I've had two issues with Boston all year. I'm talking
about since training camp started. I had two concernsal bossis
one of them. One of them was their lack of depth,
because you don't know what you're going to get out
of Peyton Britchers. You don't know what you're going to
get out of Sam.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Hauser right right, They're just shoot her.
Speaker 8 (26:10):
I Corford's a.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Little bit older.
Speaker 8 (26:11):
He's a little bit older, okay. And the other thing
is their lack of execution in the last four minutes
of a game. They become very ISO fencered.
Speaker 12 (26:21):
That worries me.
Speaker 8 (26:23):
I'm not picking holes at them. This is something that
I said before this team went out and went sixty
four and eighteen. That part worries me. It becomes a
year turn my turn offense. The best version of the
boss of Celtics and the last five minutes of a
game is when you're allowing Drew Holiday and Derek White
to initiate your offense. Nah, that could be a problematic.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
I agree with you wholeheartedly. Let me ask you this
Porzingis was.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
I don't know if you heard the clip, but today
he was asked, you know how healthy is he?
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Can't he run without paying?
Speaker 1 (26:54):
He paused literally for eight to ten seconds and was
kind of smiling lion, and they.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Say yes, and it was clear he's not one hundred percent.
I don't know where he's at. But do you think
they need porzingi Is.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
To be, you know, his typical twenty and eight twenty
and nine type Porzingo for.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Them to win?
Speaker 8 (27:16):
No, I don't. I don't think he needs to be.
I think he needs to be a pretty good version
of himself. I do think because the thing that makes
him different, the reason that he got the nickname Unicorn,
is because there aren't very many guys in this league
that are seven for four that can stress the floor
like he can. So just the threat of having him
out there is going to create driving lanes and opportunities
(27:39):
for everybody else. Now, my concern with Christus Worzini is
is is he mentally strong enough to go back in
Dallas and play? Well, That's what I would need more
than anything else. Is he mentally strong enough? I'm not
even concern with it physical. It's physical will be fine,
because I felt like in the Indiana series, if that
series would have went longer, he was going to play
(27:59):
in that series. But the fact that they distarted of
Indiana four games all right, Now he had all that
time off. Now he has all this time off. I
am not concerned with them physically. I'm more concerned with
them physically, I mean mentally and how guys respond to
going back into an environment where they're not liked.
Speaker 13 (28:18):
Well.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
On that note, what about Kyrie.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Now, Kyrie hasn't played as well statistically against Boston. Boston
yeh yeah, So what are your thoughts on him returning there?
Speaker 8 (28:29):
My thing is, I don't I don't know what's because
like if you look at the the Oklahoma City series
and then you look at the Minnesota series, it almost
looks like two completely different versions of Kyrie Irving. Yes,
you know what I mean. In the in the absolutely
even though Minnesota was a better defensive team than Dallas is.
I mean, be Ben Oklahoma City is. So it's it's
(28:53):
I don't know what to expect out of Kyrie. I
don't know. I know historically he hasn't been great when
he's gone back to Boston, and I'm interested because I
feel like Boston has the best defensive back court in
the league. And I know, like to me, when you
looked and you're breaking down this series, I'm looking at
Minnesota's height and lists versus Boston's defensive versatility. And we
(29:19):
all know that this league is about nothing but matchups.
And you saw Kyrie and Luca. They hunted, They hunted
and got the match ups that they wanted, whether it
was Mike Conley, whether it's Rudy Gobert, rather it's Tar
Anthony Towns, they hunted. The Boston Celtics don't have a
whole lot of guys that you can hunt like you
could the Minnesota Timberwolves.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
N that's fair.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
Let me you hear in the news the buzz about
JJ Reddick and the Lakers.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
Do you expect this to happen?
Speaker 5 (29:46):
It's just been out there so long, it doesn't seem
like this is just a rumor that it just seems
like it's just inevitable that it is.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
Going to happen.
Speaker 8 (29:56):
Agreed. Yeah, And I mean and for me, I'm happy
for us. I'm honestly, I'm happy for him. I know
you'll get a lot of dislike from other players because
it's always viewed as different when certain players just seem
to skip the line, you know where they just kind
of skip right to the front man. Listen, My issue
(30:18):
is not with JJ Reddick. My issue was with the Lakers.
And why do you hire a rookie head coach in
a championship er bus situation?
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Yeah, well I agree with that.
Speaker 8 (30:31):
Yeah, it in turn out well for Adrian Griffin. Itn't
turn out well for Darvin Ham. You know, in a
championship or bus situation, it always seems better to hire
a coach that has some cachet with him, that comes
in through that door with respect. Doc Rivers and Adrian Griffin.
Even though Doc Rivers is less successful than Adrian Griffin was,
it seems like he has a better hold of that
(30:53):
locker room than Adrian Griffin did. Why Because Doc Rivers
has a championship behind his name, He has a resume behind.
I'm not saying it's fair. I'm just saying that this
seems to be reality.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Yeah, Nah, let me ask you this before you go.
Because Reddick played against a lot of these guys.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
You know, you look at a lot of.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
The players who were pretty good players, you know, kind
of average players, maybe a little better Reddick, Steve Kerk,
Phil Jackson, pat Riley.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
But they coached years late, you know what I mean,
players that were after them that they didn't really play against.
Does that factor in?
Speaker 1 (31:28):
I mean, guys that win against Reddick that knew, you know,
they might hunt him on defense and things like that.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Can that be a factor at all in the locker room?
Speaker 11 (31:36):
I don't know, man like, because the thing is, like
you can say some of.
Speaker 8 (31:40):
That forever guys that have played like I don't know
how to how JJ Redick will be received in that
locker room because he is fresh off the floor, like
he had to never retired that long. You know, Look,
this is my this upcoming year will be my sixth
year of the Color Analyst in New Orleans. JJ Redick
was there, you know, when I started as a cut around,
(32:02):
J Reddick was playing there. So how he'll be received
in the locker room. Who knows, who knows? I just
wish him all the best. I do, I honestly do.
I wish him all the best.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Look, all right, that's our man, Antonio Daniels. Last thing
I'll say to you, Antonio Matt Fickson.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
Six oo okay, were we also picked the Timber Second's
gonna be a good I did, I did.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
It's gonna be a good series. I think, uh, I
think on paper it really looks like a great series.
Speaker 11 (32:34):
I will say that I'm with you there, I am
right with you there.
Speaker 8 (32:36):
I couldn't agree with you more.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
All right, thank you brother? All right, fellas yup, appreciate
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Lets you kick a field goal man?
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All right, all right, let's get off. Let's do it.
Fred and New Orleans join the couple. Fox Sports Radio.
Who you trashing? Fred?
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Go do it?
Speaker 8 (33:58):
Yes.
Speaker 12 (33:59):
The problem is with her is not that she's white
and the black players that are treating her bad. The
problem is with her is the media made it a
white black thing, and they where she played at in Idaho.
All the treatments she got and all the attentions she
got in Iowa. That's what made everybody mad. And then
(34:22):
the White House went and invited the losing team to
the White House, like, yeah, the bride's gonna feel that
because now she got all the special attention and she
got all these read necks back in her, and everybody's
against that, you know, and most of the people to
back her do fly rubber fags, so little off from
(34:43):
other people.
Speaker 5 (34:45):
All right, there you go, right there he is. How
about truck or Don in Boston. You're on the odd
couple of Fox Sports. Wait, who you trashing Trucker Don?
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Yes, sir, yes, thank.
Speaker 6 (34:58):
You for taking MI all yes sir?
Speaker 8 (35:02):
Before all right, trash.
Speaker 6 (35:03):
I got to congratulate you guys, Rob night Shop setting
up that network. That's awesome, Chris, congratulations for having a
woman good enough to put up with you for all
these years.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
You ain't twenty nine years is that long time?
Speaker 3 (35:18):
That's more in half my life, No more doubt.
Speaker 6 (35:25):
But and I want to trash the Chicago Paper because
that just because you got words in your head doesn't
mean you have to say them.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
You know that.
Speaker 6 (35:35):
That's just flat out stupidity for them to just come out.
And it makes Caitlin Clark look bad, to be honest
with you, It makes it look like this.
Speaker 8 (35:47):
Is her fault. It's not.
Speaker 6 (35:48):
It's nothing to blame.
Speaker 8 (35:50):
She's a rookie.
Speaker 12 (35:51):
She's getting a rookie treatment, and she's going to.
Speaker 6 (35:53):
Work her way through it, just like every other rookie
in the league. And before I go, can I do
one more thing?
Speaker 4 (35:59):
Yep?
Speaker 6 (36:00):
My son two and a half years ago. I called
you congratulating him to get getting promoted to chief in
the Navy. Well, tomorrow he gets promoted to senior.
Speaker 8 (36:09):
Chiefs in the Wow.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Congratulations, So as well.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
Lose it, all right?
Speaker 3 (36:20):
What's his name?
Speaker 11 (36:22):
Chris?
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Chris? All right, congratulat, congratulations to your son and to you.
Speaker 5 (36:27):
That's awesome, no doubt you. Yep, stay well, be careful
on the road. Seawan and Sacramento. You're in the odd
couple of Fox Sports, right, who was your trash and Sean?
Speaker 14 (36:38):
Yeah, O, my uncles from another mother, my brother behind
the board.
Speaker 8 (36:41):
And look, I'm gonna take a page out of trucker
Don's book. I'm gonna thread a.
Speaker 14 (36:44):
Little a little positivity on this trash talking Tuesday. Mizle
Tom Chris twenty nine years doing that, big man, you
are a model I that I only hope to keep
it going that long.
Speaker 13 (36:57):
And misel to the big homie man the new spour
Rap Radio. I want to trash anybody in Detroit who
hasn't already torn up their ticket and gone over to
the brand new station twelve seventy am where the home
of the pit Bulls. Lindsey Hunter and Montez Allen our
old man, Martin Wis and Jay are gamble holding it down,
and I think I'm forgetting somebody rob.
Speaker 8 (37:18):
Who else is on that station?
Speaker 5 (37:20):
Well, uh, bj yeah and the odd couple there you
go exactly.
Speaker 13 (37:25):
So if you're in Detroit and you're still listening to
the old Waves, get on twelve seventy.
Speaker 8 (37:30):
Af and that's all I got.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
All right, man, we appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
Thank Sean.
Speaker 5 (37:36):
How about Kevin and Culver City. You're on the odd
couple of Fox Sports Radio? Who you trashing?
Speaker 3 (37:40):
Gab, God is good.
Speaker 11 (37:43):
I gotta get this saying I gotta trash for Leeah,
Boston and Indiana City. Look, I played football, I got
I got held out a couple of plays because I
pushed the player because I have a teenagers back. Now, look,
I'm not asking you to push her or throw a punch,
but you gotta get in her face to let no.
You can't do that to us, our player. And the
way Angel Reefs is celebrating.
Speaker 8 (38:03):
You gotta go. Kareem off do it.
Speaker 11 (38:04):
Jabar against the Celtics and Larry Bird in nineteen eighty
four and say hey, we're here and this is our
star and it's not gonna have it on our court. Rob,
do me a favor. Talk to your boy Bill Lambier
and just have just haven't talked to a Leah Boston.
He coaching in the WNBA and the w This is ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
That's Matt Barnes. That was his take. I agree with it.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Just you know, you gotta protect your players, your teammates,
your team. So all right, we got an hour left
on the trash talking Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
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talking Tuesday. So you will be able to trash anyone
or anything in the world of sports in about thirty
five to forty minutes. So you can start calling in
about thirty five minutes. You get thirty to forty seconds
to do your thing. Rob Parker, who you're trashing.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
I'm not trashing anyone today.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
You just feel too good I feel too good, I
feel epic, I feel Chris Yuphorick.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
It was that kind of day for real.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
You don't have that many days in your life, maybe
my wedding day.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Rob G is trashing you now?
Speaker 5 (01:44):
No, rob G, because I went soft A Is that
what you're saying?
Speaker 6 (01:47):
Right?
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Exactly? Rob Are you kidding me? This is your bit.
Speaker 7 (01:50):
We created an entire segment around you being I'm writing
I'm ripping, and now you have an opportunity to rip anybody,
and you're like, no.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
It just feels too good today. I just can't do it.
I just can't do it, rob G. You know I've
been through it, right, I've been through it.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Well, I can't respect that.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Let's it's okay you trashing anybody who's trashing, trashing the
Chicago Tribune. Okay, they wrote an editorial. I'm gonna let
Rob G summarize it and then get into my thoughts.
Came out yesterday editorial.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
It's it's an editorial that came out and people the.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Entire editorial board, the sports column or anything like that.
Speaker 7 (02:35):
So rather than just summarize it, I'm going to read
two small.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Paragraphs and let you guys be the judge. But this
is the gist of the story in this Chicrgo Tribune.
Speaker 7 (02:43):
The foul committed by Chicago sky guard Kennedy Carter was egregious.
Outside of a sporting contest, it would have been seen
as an assault. Even within a sporting context.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
It was bad.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
They had later.
Speaker 7 (02:57):
Really there's more, Chris, I want you to hear this
last part. She has to compete, how with Kaitlyn Clark
on her own merits. But basketball has rules, and if
the WNBA choose her up and spits her out because
it is too afraid of being called racist to protect
her from a racially tinged animosity, or indeed from fouls
such as the one Carter committed, it will have done
(03:18):
a huge disservice to its own game, now at a
major inflection point. Thanks in no small measure too. Yes,
Caitlyn Clark.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
I'm trashing the Chicago Tribune.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
That's week week.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
It would have been assault away from a basketball court.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
How much wouldn't be in a saul? What what fouls?
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Rob wouldn't be an assault away from a basketball I'm
assuming that they've never seen in a Chicago Blackhawks game.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Quiz.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Assault happens every ten.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Seconds, say football.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Watch the Bears lately right now, they're getting assaulted.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
They're not doing much as salty.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
But I mean, really, come on, man, and I mean
I'm sorry Rob. There's been a lot of talk from
people saying that Caitlyn Clark is getting all this attention,
or at least a lot of it because she's white,
because it's racism.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
I haven't seen it that way.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
I have said, Look, Diana Torazzi was white, is white,
Brianna Stewart is white, Sue Bird, Sabrina your NESCo. A
lot of WNBA stars or college stars have been white
in female basketball, and.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
None of them were championed like Caitlyn Clark.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
None of them captured the imagination of the public like
Caitlin Clark.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
So I think it's the way she plays, like Steph.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Curry, coind of logo, threes, great ball handling, great passing, vision,
all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
But there have been some instances of racism.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
One of them was when Iowa was invited to the
White House even though they lost. Tell us you, I mean, what,
all of a sudden, the first time you're gonna invite
the runner up to the White House. It just happens
to be a virtually all white team led by a
white star.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
I think that was some racism.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
And I think this column, which Rob, if you read
the whole thing, is written like Caitlyn Clark is some
princess who finds herself lost in a jungle, and oh my,
you better protect her these wild things out there that
(05:47):
are going after That's how it read. Shame on the
Chicago Tribune. That was ridiculous, And to me that was
racist because there's an angel race getting hammered too foul
physically and and all that stuff, and I haven't seen
them right about her.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
I think, like, it's not just the physical.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
I mean, she's getting physical play, but some of that's
just you a rookie.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
And she's not the only one.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
We're focusing on her because of her stardom, but a
lot of them are getting that.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
But I just think that was ridiculous what the Chicago
Tribune did.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
Yeah, it just it just sounds way way off base.
Speaker 8 (06:30):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
It sounds like.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
They're overdoing it, Chris and trying to, uh say, leave
her alone, let her do whatever she wants, let her shoot,
leave her open, leave her leave her open.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
What are you doing? I mean, who are the other.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
Basketball players who were saying that they should be like
the w NBA is making a mistake.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
They should be like the w w EE.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Yeah, they should just.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
Just allow allow her to win the championship and move
out of the way and all that. You really, come on, man,
come on, and the same thing. If it's a foul,
crystal call it. If it ain't a foul, play on
It's so simple, so simple.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
I think some of the Tribune was because you read
the column, they were somewhat reacting. In my feeling, Rob
G you read it too, You let me know if
you agree. I think they were somewhat reacting to Whoopee
Goldberg and Sonny Houston on the View, who were basically
(07:34):
defending Kennedy Carter's chop block on Caitlyn Clark and that
was bad. Like I'm like, look, sometimes like that was wrong.
Black people aren't perfect. We do things wrong. Sometimes that
(07:57):
was wrong. And for Whoopy Goldberg and Sonny Hostin to
act like, oh, that's just part of the game. It
wasn't a basketball play. I'm not saying you gotta make
Kennedy Clark out to be some bad person. I'm not
saying that we've seen players do this type of thing,
but don't defend it.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
It was it was a dirty play.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
You can admit it was a dirty play and still
have your views on you think Caitlyn Clark's getting favorable
treatment because you white or whatever, But you can't defend
stuff that's just indefensible. And the league came back the
next day and said it was a flagrant one. It
was like, if you want to get back at Caitlyn Clark,
(08:36):
who you know, threw an elbows.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
I saw it. I thought it was indecisive if I
saw the right video.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
But if you say she threw an elbow at Carter,
you want to get her back, get her back in
the during the game, and it still might be called
a foul. It still might be called a flagrant. But
if she goes to the whole foulerr hard something like that.
But this you can't defend Rob. It's like Karl Malone
when he hammered Isaiah Thommas.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
I I can't defend it.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
It was a dirty play, and so I think the
Tribune was responding to that.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Both of them, moron, both of them Maron.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
And this thing Rob has become really polarizing where it's
like people putting politics in this and taking you know,
almost like their political views are informing their view of this.
Call it like you see it. Kennedy Carter's shot shot
was dirty. We're not castigating her going forward. It was
(09:41):
just a dirty play in that instance. And the Chicago
Tribune's column was definitely racist.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
To me, ridiculous. It just it just didn't make any sense.
Speaker 5 (09:53):
And to use the word assault, really, yes, did they
pull her hair? Did they hit her head on the
thank you?
Speaker 4 (10:00):
Concrete? Chris? Assault?
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Pumped?
Speaker 5 (10:03):
Isn't that a little a little excessive to call that
behavior assault? Was there a baseball bat on.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
The court, Chris? That I didn't see?
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Thank you?
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Was there a jump kick in the back where she
wasn't looking? You know? Like no, like I'm stopping stop.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
I mean, do you know when Draymond Green some of
the things he's done, and I know that's the obviously
he's black, But I'm just saying, like we've seen him
do worse on the court.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Rob, I don't know, is it somewhat sexist?
Speaker 1 (10:36):
It's saying that women shouldn't, you know, have hard fouls
and physical play.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
I just they they are wrong for that. It'll be interesting.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
I know it came out yesterday, so be interesting to
see what kind of responses they get from that. But Rob, again,
that was not a column by a in the sports section, right,
that was the editorial board of the paper.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Wow, I thought it was ridiculous. Sounds ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
All right, Well, Rob.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Lebron says something about Kyrie Irving that just didn't and
it was strange, And we'll get to that next a couple.
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his podcast with JJ Redick. Rob g all right, so
here's what he said about Kyrie obviously is about to
start the NBA Finals with the Dallas Mavericks.
Speaker 10 (12:48):
I will call Kyrie the Wizard all the time. There
was nothing on the basketball floor that Kyrie could do.
And sitting here watching it, I'm like, I'm playing like
so happy and so proud and to watch him and
continue his growth or whatever the case may be. And
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at the same time I'm so mad at the same
time that I am not his running mate anymore. He's
the most gifted player the NBA has ever seen. He
has the best gifts I've ever seen any NBA player.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
I think Lebron misspoke Rob, like I think obviously Lebron
is a savant when it comes to the game. I
think he meant most skilled because kai gifts I think
of as height.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
That's just a gift. A gift is.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Something just given to you that you didn't really have
anything to do with. You just happen to be six
feet eight inches tall as a gift. Blazing speed, Alan Iverson,
dear Fox, that's a gift. I mean you can do
things to hone it, obviously, but dude, Alan Iverson was
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just gifted with blazing speed and quickness. Hops viz Carter,
John Moran, Anthony Edward just gifted.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
That's a gift. They just were gifted with the hops.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Kyrie Irving is obviously a great athlete, but relatively speaking,
NBA point guard, two guard, whatever you want to call him,
I mean, he ain't the quickest by any stretch of
the imagination. He's not the strongest naturally, He's not jumping
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out of the gym.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
You know.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
I haven't seen any real, like incredibly incredible highlight dunks
from Kyrie. I think, like Kyrie, what makes him awesome
are skills that he worked at. He had to go
out and get through hard work, go out and purchase
if you will, through incredibly hard work and his handle
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that ain't a gift he just I mean, yeah, I
hand eye coordination and all that stuff, but his ability
to dribble that basketball the way he.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Does is from hard work. His jump shot hard work.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
And so I think I'm gonna assume Lebron misspoke and
use the wrong word.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Rob Lebron is more gifted than Kyrie just I mean
the size.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
The size, and the.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Speed, athleticism and his side. I mean, I would you
agree with me or what?
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (15:42):
I think that in his attempt at hyperbole and to
pay him homage. And even though even in the comment
it's basically you know, he's interjected in that about you know,
he's not my running mate, and you know, and I'm
like all that, you know, it's just a way of
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putting yourself in this.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
So you you feel like Lebron is like trying to
insert himself into Kyrie's glory.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
Yes, a little bit, Yeah, I just you know, I
got that. But it's just a hyperbole of you know,
wanting to say something glowing about him and getting carried away.
And we see that often, Chris, So it's not totally
shocking to me.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
But I'm with you on gifts compared to skill.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
And you could talk about Kyrie's dribbling that's a skill, right, yes, Yes,
his shot making ability that's a skill.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
When you're six foot eight and two hundred and forty.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
Pounds and don't have an ounce of fat on you,
that's a gift.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Right now, you're you're right on the mic, I mean
right there are.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
I mean we could name.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Dozens and it's not a slight to Kyrie because he's
obviously gifted in some way. You know, he doesn't you
have to be gifted with a certain level of athleticism
or size to play at this level in terms of basketball,
and he obviously is athletic. I'm just saying, compared to
the NBA players he's going against, he is not the
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quickest guard we've seen, by any stretch of the imagination.
He is not the strongest guard we've seen or the
highest jumping guard. So, I mean, rob it just you
could go we could go on for an hour naming
players who are maybe more gifted than Kyrie, but no,
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he Now Chauncey Billups said a few years ago, Rob
that Kyrie. I don't know if he said maybe.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Or is the most skilled player in NBA history.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
A few others have echoed that in the past few years,
and that's fair, you know, I mean, I I they're
certainly an argument there.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
He's in the discussion when you just.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Talk about footwork, handles, being able to score every level, offensively,
finishing ability. I mean, Kyrie is I've always said, or
you know, for a long time now, that he's the
best ball handler in NBA history. But like I said,
I gotta believe that.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Lebron meant skilled.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
But I'm interested in your take that Lebron's trying to
get a little shine.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
No, I'm just.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
I mean, he does have Anthony Davis, but it ain't
like the cupboards bear in that.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
But oh what could have been?
Speaker 4 (18:49):
You know what I mean? Like that was what it was,
I would have won, We would have won a lot more.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
What could have been if if this guy wouldn't have
abandoned me.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
I will say it just felt like he was to
get some shine, That's all.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
I will say this. I do know this from just
talking to people.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
From what I'm told, Kyrie like this kind of I mean,
obviously he's happy as a lark with Luca, but Rob
like his you know it's probably done now, but I
mean that talk, you know, over the past few years
about him wanting to play with Lebron and have a
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reconciliation on from what I'm told, that is real, Like
he understands that he made a mistake in leaving Lebron
and who knows what could have been had those two
stayed together.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
So I think it's a mutual love and respect there.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
It's unfortunate Rob and I mean I think it's mainly
on Kyrie. It's unfortunate that they couldn't. You know, Kyrie
you know, wasn't happy there, and one is to kind
of seek out and do his own thing. But look
he's gotten with Luca, and Luca is an all time
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upper echel in, all time great and a sability wise.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
We'll see if he wins rings to justify that claim.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
But.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
You know, he's in a great situation, right.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
I mean, what wouldn't it be interesting if they went
on a little tear. I mean, I'm not saying three straight,
but you know, win a couple championships Luke and.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Kyrie, that would be interesting.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
Yeah, I just think that would be real hard with
where the NBA is, the parody and then all the
good teams out west.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
It just sounds like a lot.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Now, well, it's gonna be interesting.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Does the parody remain or will a team emerge like
an all time great team emerge.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
To win a few championships. That's what That's what I'm
excited about.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
I think winby I mean, you know, I think Sky's
the limit with him, but it's probably a couple of
years away before he really is in the mix of
winning big. But yeah, it's gonna be interesting to see.
And if they could do that, that would really be
an interesting storyline, and Lebron might be involved in that
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storyline if that were to happen. All right, we got
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Speaker 3 (21:56):
How you How are you?
Speaker 8 (21:58):
I am awesome?
Speaker 11 (21:59):
True?
Speaker 8 (22:00):
How are you? Guys?
Speaker 3 (22:01):
We are great too, man, we are great.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Obviously we're all waiting for these NBA Finals to start
on Thursday, So I don't know if we've got from you.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Who is your pick and.
Speaker 8 (22:13):
Why I'm taking Boston? I'm taking bath who The reason
I'm taking Boston is because Boston has been the best
team in the league all year record wise, and you know,
I feel like with all this time off, people are
poking holes in the Boston Celtiics, like this is a
what sixty four win team?
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Yep, But you don't.
Speaker 8 (22:34):
Win sixty four You don't win sixty four games by accident.
You win sixty four games because you're really good offensively
and you're really good defensively. And I feel like the
health of Christousworthy and gets getting him back completely changed
to the equation. There's not another team in this league
that can do what Boston can do as far as
their top eight guys all being legitimate three point three.
(22:56):
They don't have one guy and are their top eight
that you can say we'll live with that guy shooting
three we'll live with that guy, you know, we'll help
them with Jason Tatum and leave this guy open. They
don't have that guy. I know. Kyrie and Luca right
now are Rowland and Dallas. To me was the most
dangerous teams coming into the playoffs in the Western Conference.
(23:19):
But I cannot bet against the Boston Celtics.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Let me ask you this.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
I'm with you today, Antonio. I'm with you on the Celtics.
It's just they're easy to pick at. They're not pretty.
They a lot of threes they have when they have
bad games. You know, when they have bad games, they're
really bad, you know what I mean. And people just
don't think much of them. But I'm with you.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
All they do is win.
Speaker 8 (23:42):
Right, Like, My thing about Boston is they are in
a win or lose situation. Like it's like people are
mad at them for Jimmy Butler and Terry Rose he're
not playing. People are mad at them for Jared Allen
and Donovan Mitchell not playing. People are mad at them
(24:03):
for Teres Halliburton not playing. Like, you can't control who's
in front of you. You can't control It's not like
they can say, all right, well, you know what let's
hold on, Let's wait a minute, let's wait till everybody's
healthy and make man, you beat it who's in front
of you. And they've only lost two games so far
in this playoffs, and people are still picking holes at
the Boston Celtic. Well, but didn't win by this much
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or they don't.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Anxiety what they're picking holes And I'm one of them.
I'm picking holes in the fact that they had to
be gifted game.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
One against Indiana.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
They have to make a shot, Chris would have been gifted.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
You still got to make sure gifted that they didn't
Indiana not calling didn't I finished, Indiana not calling the
time out, Indiana making bowl headed turnovers.
Speaker 8 (24:51):
For a mans A question about that? The man two
question about that? Why do we blame the opponent for
Indiana making the mistakes.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Because they were unforced some of them, but some of
them were unforced. No giving him.
Speaker 8 (25:10):
It's different. It's different that game.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
One that Indiana had in the bag. If they don't
make mistakes, they win game one. Now, I didn't think
they were gonna win the series.
Speaker 11 (25:20):
Chris.
Speaker 8 (25:21):
I cannot agree with you more. I cannot agree with
you more. But why are we holding that against Boston because.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
I'm like Indiana was not that good of a team,
especially when they lost Tyres Halliburton and still had chances.
They're but the Benion game three had chances to win.
I'm just saying Boston a close game here or there
is fine. Three of those four games Indiana had late leads,
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good teams wins.
Speaker 8 (25:51):
Okay, So this is what I was saying about Boston.
I've had two issues with Boston all year. I'm talking
about since training camp started. I had two concernsal bossis
one of them. One of them was their lack of depth,
because you don't know what you're going to get out
of Peyton Britchers. You don't know what you're going to
get out of Sam.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Hauser right right, They're just shoot her.
Speaker 8 (26:10):
I Corford's a.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Little bit older.
Speaker 8 (26:11):
He's a little bit older, okay. And the other thing
is their lack of execution in the last four minutes
of a game. They become very ISO fencered.
Speaker 12 (26:21):
That worries me.
Speaker 8 (26:23):
I'm not picking holes at them. This is something that
I said before this team went out and went sixty
four and eighteen. That part worries me. It becomes a
year turn my turn offense. The best version of the
boss of Celtics and the last five minutes of a
game is when you're allowing Drew Holiday and Derek White
to initiate your offense. Nah, that could be a problematic.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
I agree with you wholeheartedly. Let me ask you this
Porzingis was.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
I don't know if you heard the clip, but today
he was asked, you know how healthy is he?
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Can't he run without paying?
Speaker 1 (26:54):
He paused literally for eight to ten seconds and was
kind of smiling lion, and they.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Say yes, and it was clear he's not one hundred percent.
I don't know where he's at. But do you think
they need porzingi Is.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
To be, you know, his typical twenty and eight twenty
and nine type Porzingo for.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Them to win?
Speaker 8 (27:16):
No, I don't. I don't think he needs to be.
I think he needs to be a pretty good version
of himself. I do think because the thing that makes
him different, the reason that he got the nickname Unicorn,
is because there aren't very many guys in this league
that are seven for four that can stress the floor
like he can. So just the threat of having him
out there is going to create driving lanes and opportunities
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for everybody else. Now, my concern with Christus Worzini is
is is he mentally strong enough to go back in
Dallas and play? Well, That's what I would need more
than anything else. Is he mentally strong enough? I'm not
even concern with it physical. It's physical will be fine,
because I felt like in the Indiana series, if that
series would have went longer, he was going to play
(27:59):
in that series. But the fact that they distarted of
Indiana four games all right, Now he had all that
time off. Now he has all this time off. I
am not concerned with them physically. I'm more concerned with
them physically, I mean mentally and how guys respond to
going back into an environment where they're not liked.
Speaker 13 (28:18):
Well.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
On that note, what about Kyrie.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Now, Kyrie hasn't played as well statistically against Boston. Boston
yeh yeah, So what are your thoughts on him returning there?
Speaker 8 (28:29):
My thing is, I don't I don't know what's because
like if you look at the the Oklahoma City series
and then you look at the Minnesota series, it almost
looks like two completely different versions of Kyrie Irving. Yes,
you know what I mean. In the in the absolutely
even though Minnesota was a better defensive team than Dallas is.
I mean, be Ben Oklahoma City is. So it's it's
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I don't know what to expect out of Kyrie. I
don't know. I know historically he hasn't been great when
he's gone back to Boston, and I'm interested because I
feel like Boston has the best defensive back court in
the league. And I know, like to me, when you
looked and you're breaking down this series, I'm looking at
Minnesota's height and lists versus Boston's defensive versatility. And we
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all know that this league is about nothing but matchups.
And you saw Kyrie and Luca. They hunted, They hunted
and got the match ups that they wanted, whether it
was Mike Conley, whether it's Rudy Gobert, rather it's Tar
Anthony Towns, they hunted. The Boston Celtics don't have a
whole lot of guys that you can hunt like you
could the Minnesota Timberwolves.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
N that's fair.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
Let me you hear in the news the buzz about
JJ Reddick and the Lakers.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
Do you expect this to happen?
Speaker 5 (29:46):
It's just been out there so long, it doesn't seem
like this is just a rumor that it just seems
like it's just inevitable that it is.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
Going to happen.
Speaker 8 (29:56):
Agreed. Yeah, And I mean and for me, I'm happy
for us. I'm honestly, I'm happy for him. I know
you'll get a lot of dislike from other players because
it's always viewed as different when certain players just seem
to skip the line, you know where they just kind
of skip right to the front man. Listen, My issue
(30:18):
is not with JJ Reddick. My issue was with the Lakers.
And why do you hire a rookie head coach in
a championship er bus situation?
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Yeah, well I agree with that.
Speaker 8 (30:31):
Yeah, it in turn out well for Adrian Griffin. Itn't
turn out well for Darvin Ham. You know, in a
championship or bus situation, it always seems better to hire
a coach that has some cachet with him, that comes
in through that door with respect. Doc Rivers and Adrian Griffin.
Even though Doc Rivers is less successful than Adrian Griffin was,
it seems like he has a better hold of that
(30:53):
locker room than Adrian Griffin did. Why Because Doc Rivers
has a championship behind his name, He has a resume behind.
I'm not saying it's fair. I'm just saying that this
seems to be reality.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Yeah, Nah, let me ask you this before you go.
Because Reddick played against a lot of these guys.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
You know, you look at a lot of.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
The players who were pretty good players, you know, kind
of average players, maybe a little better Reddick, Steve Kerk,
Phil Jackson, pat Riley.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
But they coached years late, you know what I mean,
players that were after them that they didn't really play against.
Does that factor in?
Speaker 1 (31:28):
I mean, guys that win against Reddick that knew, you know,
they might hunt him on defense and things like that.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Can that be a factor at all in the locker room?
Speaker 11 (31:36):
I don't know, man like, because the thing is, like
you can say some of.
Speaker 8 (31:40):
That forever guys that have played like I don't know
how to how JJ Redick will be received in that
locker room because he is fresh off the floor, like
he had to never retired that long. You know, Look,
this is my this upcoming year will be my sixth
year of the Color Analyst in New Orleans. JJ Redick
was there, you know, when I started as a cut around,
(32:02):
J Reddick was playing there. So how he'll be received
in the locker room. Who knows, who knows? I just
wish him all the best. I do, I honestly do.
I wish him all the best.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Look, all right, that's our man, Antonio Daniels. Last thing
I'll say to you, Antonio Matt Fickson.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
Six oo okay, were we also picked the Timber Second's
gonna be a good I did, I did.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
It's gonna be a good series. I think, uh, I
think on paper it really looks like a great series.
Speaker 11 (32:34):
I will say that I'm with you there, I am
right with you there.
Speaker 8 (32:36):
I couldn't agree with you more.
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All right, thank you brother? All right, fellas yup, appreciate
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Fred and New Orleans join the couple. Fox Sports Radio.
Who you trashing? Fred?
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Go do it?
Speaker 8 (33:58):
Yes.
Speaker 12 (33:59):
The problem is with her is not that she's white
and the black players that are treating her bad. The
problem is with her is the media made it a
white black thing, and they where she played at in Idaho.
All the treatments she got and all the attentions she
got in Iowa. That's what made everybody mad. And then
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the White House went and invited the losing team to
the White House, like, yeah, the bride's gonna feel that
because now she got all the special attention and she
got all these read necks back in her, and everybody's
against that, you know, and most of the people to
back her do fly rubber fags, so little off from
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other people.
Speaker 5 (34:45):
All right, there you go, right there he is. How
about truck or Don in Boston. You're on the odd
couple of Fox Sports. Wait, who you trashing Trucker Don?
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Yes, sir, yes, thank.
Speaker 6 (34:58):
You for taking MI all yes sir?
Speaker 8 (35:02):
Before all right, trash.
Speaker 6 (35:03):
I got to congratulate you guys, Rob night Shop setting
up that network. That's awesome, Chris, congratulations for having a
woman good enough to put up with you for all
these years.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
You ain't twenty nine years is that long time?
Speaker 3 (35:18):
That's more in half my life, No more doubt.
Speaker 6 (35:25):
But and I want to trash the Chicago Paper because
that just because you got words in your head doesn't
mean you have to say them.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
You know that.
Speaker 6 (35:35):
That's just flat out stupidity for them to just come out.
And it makes Caitlin Clark look bad, to be honest
with you, It makes it look like this.
Speaker 8 (35:47):
Is her fault. It's not.
Speaker 6 (35:48):
It's nothing to blame.
Speaker 8 (35:50):
She's a rookie.
Speaker 12 (35:51):
She's getting a rookie treatment, and she's going to.
Speaker 6 (35:53):
Work her way through it, just like every other rookie
in the league. And before I go, can I do
one more thing?
Speaker 4 (35:59):
Yep?
Speaker 6 (36:00):
My son two and a half years ago. I called
you congratulating him to get getting promoted to chief in
the Navy. Well, tomorrow he gets promoted to senior.
Speaker 8 (36:09):
Chiefs in the Wow.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Congratulations, So as well.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
Lose it, all right?
Speaker 3 (36:20):
What's his name?
Speaker 11 (36:22):
Chris?
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Chris? All right, congratulat, congratulations to your son and to you.
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That's awesome, no doubt you. Yep, stay well, be careful
on the road. Seawan and Sacramento. You're in the odd
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Speaker 14 (36:38):
Yeah, O, my uncles from another mother, my brother behind
the board.
Speaker 8 (36:41):
And look, I'm gonna take a page out of trucker
Don's book. I'm gonna thread a.
Speaker 14 (36:44):
Little a little positivity on this trash talking Tuesday. Mizle
Tom Chris twenty nine years doing that, big man, you
are a model I that I only hope to keep
it going that long.
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Rap Radio. I want to trash anybody in Detroit who
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and I think I'm forgetting somebody rob.
Speaker 8 (37:18):
Who else is on that station?
Speaker 5 (37:20):
Well, uh, bj yeah and the odd couple there you
go exactly.
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So if you're in Detroit and you're still listening to
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Af and that's all I got.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
All right, man, we appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
Thank Sean.
Speaker 5 (37:36):
How about Kevin and Culver City. You're on the odd
couple of Fox Sports Radio? Who you trashing?
Speaker 3 (37:40):
Gab, God is good.
Speaker 11 (37:43):
I gotta get this saying I gotta trash for Leeah,
Boston and Indiana City. Look, I played football, I got
I got held out a couple of plays because I
pushed the player because I have a teenagers back. Now, look,
I'm not asking you to push her or throw a punch,
but you gotta get in her face to let no.
You can't do that to us, our player. And the
way Angel Reefs is celebrating.
Speaker 8 (38:03):
You gotta go. Kareem off do it.
Speaker 11 (38:04):
Jabar against the Celtics and Larry Bird in nineteen eighty
four and say hey, we're here and this is our
star and it's not gonna have it on our court. Rob,
do me a favor. Talk to your boy Bill Lambier
and just have just haven't talked to a Leah Boston.
He coaching in the WNBA and the w This is ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
That's Matt Barnes. That was his take. I agree with it.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Just you know, you gotta protect your players, your teammates,
your team. So all right, we got an hour left
on the trash talking Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
Keep it locked. A couple
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