August 27, 2025 • 41 mins
Kelvin Washington & Rob Guerra discuss why there is a thought that Bears QB Caleb Williams could get benched somewhere this season if he under performs. Plus, the guys claim the Josh Allen can't get rid of his Superman identity entirely and much more!
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as we got some big games coming up over the
weekend as well. All right, let's let's talk about this one. Uh,
(02:36):
the Bears have been If the Browns have dominated, the
Cowboys have dominated, I would argue maybe the Bears have
been the third biggest story in Ken Brown's medalist for sure. Yeah,
they're the bronze medalists. Hey, they still meddled, and that
is because Ben Johnson, first time head coach over there,
and obviously Kayler william former Heisman winner second year this year,
folks want to see more from him. Uh, let's just
talk about the way we are right now. Rober, you
I have you break it down the latest with the potential.
(02:58):
You gotta report that. Don't be scared. Don't be scared.
It's not crazy for there to be a situation where
Caleb might get benched.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Yeah, which is crazy because the person who said it
is not a guy like me, who's, you know, watching
from afar. It's not a guy like you was watching
from Afar. It is a guy who's in the building
every single day. Bears Beat reporter Dan Wheeder or The Athletic,
did an interview in Chicago on Monday, and he was
talking about the situation with the team, more specifically as
it relates to the Ben Johnson Caleb Williams marriage, which
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publicly from the outside looking in doesn't seem great, you know,
but we're not there every day, we don't know for sure.
During the conversation, Wheeter said something that really blew people's minds.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
And here's what he said. Quote, I don't think this
head coach.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Is just gonna sit around on his hands and go,
you know, we're just gonna give Caleb forever to meet
and reach the checkpoints we've set out for him. And
so because you now have a QB two Entyson bagent
that everyone in the building believes in and continues to
show significant progress from where he was too plus years
ago when he walked into the building. That conversation talking
about going from Williams to Beijing isn't one that Chicago
(04:09):
should be scared of the idea Again, to summarize the
idea is what are he's saying?
Speaker 1 (04:16):
The idea that.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
The Bears could have a quarterback controversy in year one
of the Ben Johnson era.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Don't be scared. Don't be scared your thoughts all right?
So here here's why I want to break this down.
You have a coach and Ben Johnson who is a
first timer in the NFL, which stands for a couple
of things, will come the No Fun League but also
known as the not for Long League, stensibly for coaches.
(04:46):
And Ben Johnson's coming to a situation where he inherits
a Heisman Trophy winner who everybody said he is the
next thing since Andrew Luck and the talent is there
clearly to the tune of a Heisman, but also we've
just been able to see make some throws. He's able
to run. You're like, man, the talent is there. We
have to work on the intangibles and the other things.
But I think this is why this is either gonna
work or could be violatile, because if you got the
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guy and Ben Johnson, who can extract the most from Caleb,
who can expect the most from of Caleb, who can say, yeah,
I know you can do all that the sandlot backyard football,
You've got that. You've been able to do that since
probably Pop Warner all the way up the high school
to college and now the pros. That doesn't work like
that now. The issue is you pair the two improvisation
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making stuff happen, superman kind of guy with a system timing,
precision guy. So they either got to find a way
to meet leaning towards the middle, maybe a little bit
more towards Ben Johnson, or it's just not gonna work
because this is what Ben Johnson had been dealing with.
You know what Jared Goff's completion percentage was last year
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what was it seventy two oh gur wow for the season,
not a game, not a division, not a player, seventy
two point four before that, sixty seven sixty five, sixty seven,
sixty seven cix. So my point is he's used to
and more important than just the completion percentage, it's the timing.
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It's the precision. And you know what the beauty of
knowing your weaknesses are. You know what you can and
can't do right. Jared Goff knows if this play doesn't work.
He's got that old school Peyton manning. What is that member?
Peyton would just fall before you can even hit me.
Hi boom one two. He's not dropped. You're not even
gonna sack me. No, canna put your hands on me
next play, yep. Jared Goff is built like that precision timing.
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Who's open accuracy? Okay, get it out, but let's move
us go. And that was how that offense ran. Ben
Johnson ran a top five offense for his entire time
with the Lions, number one last year in offense. So
what I'm saying is he's used to a certain way,
and I think there's a level of frustration, and he's
also used to a guy in Jared Goff who had
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been what cast off. Yeah, you gotas to a super Bowl,
but it wasn't you, it was us. We're good enough
without you. Go get out of here, go to Detroit.
Some people will call the depths of Hell an NFL. Right,
And he had a bounce back, no, i'mna prove you
wrong attitude already a veteran something to prove. And again
now he has a different type of skill set than Caleb,
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and I think Ben Johnson. He looks at the backup
and he says, I mean, I don't want to go there,
but that's more what I'm used to. If this is
weird science, shout up to the movie in the eighties,
and I'm building something, it looks a little bit more
like that because that's what I'm used to. That's what
I can work with. And I have to break twenty
three year old habits with you, of you being able
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to do what you do to the tune of a heisman,
so you think it's the right way to do it, yep.
And I have to try to break that. And I
think he's frustrated with them not breaking the huddle fast enough.
We know that. I think he's frustrated with how bad
they looked his last preseason game and he's like, dude,
this is our third game. We're down seventeen to nothing
before we got to Reswisch the start off exactly, this
is our third game. I think he's frustrated with the inaccuracy.
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We talk about it and had hoop shorts and T
shirts and you're going five to seventeen. And I think
there's a level of him that says, also the reason
I brought up the NFL not for long. I'm not
gonna sit up here and we go four and thirteen,
five and twelve and don't look good, and everybody's blaming
it on me. And it looks bad because I'm not
a former number one pick in the highsch where I
(08:26):
might get another year or two. We got to wake
it work. That was our pick. They might let me
go quick. We know that you can be successful and
get you and me coach of the Year in sports
and get fired the next season.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
It's happened, you can win the Super Bowl two years
later out of a jolt, exactly.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
So I think he is just why he's just saying, look, man,
get it right. And for him to say it publicly.
I don't want to make the same as he said,
long as we're heading right for the directions and not
making the same mistakes twice. I think he's doing some
trying to do some zen Master, Phil Jackson, Jedi Mintrie. Hey, Caleb,
get it right, brother, because I got a guy like
just got a deal two year, ten mil, which is
(09:03):
a good amount for a backup. Yeah, especially a back
up who is not like James Winston. You can get it.
We're used to that. He's been here for a long time.
Jacobe Weresett, those kind of guys. He's not that. So
I just understand it, and I think their styles they're
gonna have to find a way to meet in the middle.
Leaning more towards Ben Johnson. Otherwise, I could just see
him saying, man, I can't deal with this the more
(09:24):
remedial issues. Yeah, no, I'm with you, and it's well documented.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
You can check my Twitter out at to producer RG
that I am not a big Caleb Williams fan.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
I just don't believe.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
That his style of football necessarily translate to most NFL teams.
Are their exceptions obviously, Patrick Mahomes, you know, had at
a quarterback coach or a head coach, excuse me, and
Andny Reid who was willing to let him do the
backyard stuff, but then he'd reel them in.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Right.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
But for the most part, if you look at a
lot of these most successful coaches, Sean McVay, Ben Johnson,
is Won, Kyle Shanahan, they're the type where it's like, no,
my system, run my system.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Trust me.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
It's like novacane, give it time. It's gonna work. As
long as you do what I tell you to do,
we're gonna be successful. And that's not necessarily the way
that Caleb Williams plays. Even with that said, I'm with
you in the sense that if this goes sideways, I
don't believe it's gonna be because of him. It's gonna
be because, as you mentioned Ben Johnson again, it's only
(10:21):
the preseason, it's only the off season, it's only training camp.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Whatever.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
He has shown himself to be a little bit short tempered,
he has shown himself to be a little bit on
edge all the time. He has shown himself so far
at least, to be unable to kind of connect to
these guys as professionals, as personal guy, as personal men
and women, you know on the staff. He is like
(10:47):
a lot of guys are. Historically, I was a play designer,
a play call. I'm in my little cave drawing up
some really cool stuff, and I'm great with the x's
and o's. I necessarily have to worry about the timeouts,
and I have to worry about the media. I'd have
to worry about all the things that come along with
being a head football coach in the NFL. And because
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of that, as you mentioned, he wants things done a
certain way, and what he wants is not at all
what Kayler Williams does well. We mentioned the athletic quarterback
tiers that came out a few weeks ago and one
of the reasons why, or as the biggest reason why
Kayla Williams was consistently in Tier three despite being viewed
(11:28):
as a generational prospect. Here are the quotes in terms
of processing, ability to get in the ball out of
his hands.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
It was the worst we played against. Here's another one.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Processing to me was alarming watching the tape, so I
could totally see a scenario where, because we've already seen
it this offseason in preseason in training camp, Ben Johnson
throws his offense off the field. Ben Johnson says, Luther Burning,
you cannot work in with the first and second team
because you didn't do this right, So I'm gonna punish
you in this regard. I could see a scenario just
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looking at their schedule the first five games of the year.
They got Vikings, Lions, Cowboys, Raiders, Commanders, depending how you
feel about them, there is a scenario where they start
off one in five, two, and four, And I could
totally see a situation where Cayleb Williams is in a
game and he's going nine for twenty one, or he's
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you know, twelve for thirty or whatever it is. He's
having one of those games that young quarterbacks have all
the time. It's not normally a cause for concern. It
just happens. But maybe he's you know, zero touchdowns, two
interceptions or no touchdowns, one pick, he lost the fumble,
he's been sacked a couple of times.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Whatever it is.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Right, he's holding the ball too long. They're down big.
The coach says, hey, it's not your day, Caleb. Don't
worry about it. We don't want you to get hurt.
Let's throw in Tyson bagent real quick, let him finish
this one Offens will live to fight another day. And
then Tyson, beagent running the system that Ben Johnson knows
and loves, comes in and leads him to a quick
scoring drive. So instead of losing thirty one nothing, they
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lose thirty one to ten whatever it is. And then
next thing you know, we got a quarterback controversy because
Ben Johnson didn't necessarily shut it down by saying, hey,
Caleb's our guy or man, it was great to see
Tyson out there. He looked really good, he looked really comfortable.
And again it's not necessarily Caleb's fault because he's young
and he's supposed to go through this kind of stuff.
(13:23):
But the way Ben Johnson's wired, man, I could totally
see a scenario where this ends, not ends, but there's
some rough fatches there at Chicago.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Here's where I will give some caution to Ben Johnson. Though.
This reminds me a little bit of the JJ Reddick
guys who are so high strong, and I watch so
much film. You don't understand, don't you see it? Like
calm down? You know why Phil Jackson was great because
he said, hey, Dennis Robin, go to Vegas in the
middle of the season. Right, blow off some steam, that's
what you mean? Oh you mean just just tonight? No, no, no,
(13:52):
miss games. Who does that? Right? You look at Ben Johnson,
where'd he come from? Detroit? Dan Campbell more of the
overarching coach, Right, I'm the whole, like the ski I'm
not into xs and os. I'm the just modern managing
the temperament of the team, the personalities. We kind of have,
my ethos, my vibe, my aura that sometimes is a
(14:14):
head coach. Head coach isn't always just you know, we're
gonna do it. This might win in and high strung something.
You look at Sean McVay, he's high strong a bit,
but he's also very much a player's coach. He's probably
I would imagine if we sat him right here, and
I've heard him talk about it, just living in la
a lot. He's had to learn that.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
That balance of Mike Tomlin is one of those guys
who you look at who he's had on his team
and the fact that he was able to keep him
together get to the playoffs every year. A great balance
of Big Ben, Antonio Brown, Levan Bell, I'm the same roster.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
A great balance of expectations and holding you to a
high standard, but also play, hey, what's going on? Man,
how's everything? So Ben Johnson Well will have to learn
that it ain't always about me just proving my point
and who's right and wrong. And I'm gonna say this
in the media, especially when you don't have that equity, right,
Mike tom It can do it. He Mike Tomlin at
this point, right, Andy Reid, and he's Andy Reid. You
(15:05):
do have to earn that. And especially in the time
where they're like, uh, Janna Jackson, what have you done
for me?
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Like?
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Who? I mean, that'saw what you're doing with Detroit, But
who are you? Ain't doing nothing here?
Speaker 3 (15:13):
It's like when you're throwing guys out of practice the
first day, like what's what's the next step?
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Right? And exactly? And I think you're trying to set
a tone, but it's like, I don't know what your
tone setting is, right? Who are you that Bill Belichick
could do that and we all would know what that meant. Yep,
I don't know your standing. I don't know what you're
going to do. So is Bill Belichick came there with
Super Bowl rings already in New England, he did as
we were watching right now, told you they got the
thirty for thirty going all right, so it will be
(15:42):
very interesting to see this play out. But I think Kaylee,
they're they're in a position where if Caleb can just
start to improve in those things because he has a
mastermind at it. But also Ben Johnson's gonna have to
practice patience more than he probably had to do the
last four or five years with Jared goff In, a
pro and a veteran who had a lot to prove
coming from you know, being kind of outcast from the
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Rams who wanted to bounce back and you know, prove
them wrong. So there was that, all right. Josh Allen
had some thoughts on how he can improve. Do we
agree with those changes? We'll tell you it's theacable Rob
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so let's go ahead and get to this. Josh Allen
has been very vocal and very honest kind of about
(18:10):
everything in his playing career. By the way, you have
a guy, you know, maybe early on the career, kind
of like, you know, I'm indifferent. Maybe you don't like that.
He's hard to not like. Yeah you're Mike. Oh yeah,
he's kind of hard to not like. Man, he just
I like him. I liked him. I like what he's about.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
It's been the off season Josh Allen before this, Taylor Swift, how.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Dare they out do this? With popularity and an engagement
in marriage and he won the MVP. Everything was looking good.
He gets married. Yeah, he's on hard knocks yep, and
he's just no. It was. But then Taylor Travis like, oh,
let's outdo them. Taylor was like, no doubt, let's make
a song about it. Boo. But real quick, just to
get in this for a few minutes here, he said,
my game is gonna have to evolve. Take less punishment.
(18:51):
He talks about it. This was to Albert Breer, of course,
Monday Morning Quarterback, and he just talked about some things.
He said, I he didn't take too many hits. He
loved out his game to ball, and I think last
year was a step in the right direction. I'm not
saying I didn't take any but during the offseason, this
is the best I've ever felt any season because I
(19:11):
didn't take any hits, as just being smarter sliding, getting
out of bounds and throwing the ball away a little
bit quicker and not taking these extra one or two
hits going on. Blah blah blah blah blah. You start
to look at some things about him. Rob g I'm
gonna get down to these numbers real quick. And had
to have playoff games, and four of them with Mahomes.
He has eleven total touchdowns to Mahomes's twelve, so right
(19:31):
there the same He's got thirteen hundred yards to essentially
thirteen hundred yards, so they're all about to say they've
both had one turnover. However, Mahomes has outscored them one
thirty nine to one thirteen. And the most important number
Buffalo is ohing four oh and four Jim Kelly somewhere
like I'm owing four in the Super Bowl. Be least
I got there right. And where I'm going with this
is that sounds good, and I do believe there's true
(19:53):
to that, and I would have say I agree to
that to an extent that you have to improve, you
have to be smarter. You're our key to success, and
you want to have a long career and be able
to play an elongated career and win some games. But ultimately,
this is where I disagree with them, or I won't
say I disagree, but the hyper focus should be on
we gotta win. God gifted you six' six sixty, seven run, fast,
(20:16):
strong jump over. Everybody you're just the natural. Ability you
had none to. Do god was, like here you, go.
Bruh then you do your, part you work, hard you
put on the. Time in the film. Room you're great
with your, Team they love, You the city love, you
got everything you, Need your coaches love. You You're you're,
Dependable you're. There and to, me, man you gotta do
what you gotta do to. Win and if if you
(20:38):
gotta go Full John, elway jump in the end, zone
get spun around like a helicopter to get that end
zone and, win then that's what you, do because dang,
It i'd rather play all out making using my unique,
ability my god given talent that makes me special and
separates me from other guys to try to. Win and
if a dang, it IF i only played twelve thirteen,
season BUT i won one or Two Super bowls by
(21:02):
being WHAT i beat bam and being great at making
it happen by all means in any, cost, well dang,
it that's what it. Is IF i don't play eighteen
nineteen years and, WOW i won a couple of MVPs
AND i went to A Super bowl, one BUT i
never won. It bump all That i'm doing whatever it.
Takes SO i hear him in, theory AND i do.
Believe you do get, smarter and you do become more,
practical and you do become wiser you. Do Russell wilson
(21:23):
become a baseball, slider you, know and you make Sure
i'm not saying take unnecessary hits all the. Time but
what makes you Greatest you can do what others. Can you're, bigger, stronger,
faster and that's what makes you. Unique and if the
goal is to win because you're in a, division, MAN
i mean not the division conference With Patrick mahomes And
Lamar jackson And Justin herbert maybe he gets. THERE. Cj
(21:46):
stroud maybe gets. There Bo nicks might start getting. There
Joe purl already been to A Super. Bowl, man you
gotta do whatever it takes to get there because it's
not guaranteed you will Rob. Gi so if it means
going all out and just whatever it takes for a
handful of, seasons but, dang AND i won. One i'm team.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
That, YEAH i think you're spot. On and what's funny
about this not, Funny but what's interesting about this article
Is Albert brier mentions two large quarterbacks who played a
similar style To Josh allen early, on number one Being Cam,
newton one of them being a Big Ben, roethlisberger and
he mentioned how Hey cam was basically washed out of
the league by age twenty eight to twenty, nine like
it was. Over his body had broken, down his shoulder
(22:22):
was messed. Up it is what it, is and How
Ben roethlisberger re engineered his game at age thirty When
Todd haley arrived and from that point was no longer
running the, ball was no longer even taking. Sacks he
was just kind of throwing the ball. Away lest we forget,
Though Cam newton only made The Super bowls during that
short time because he was playing Like, superman. Right he
had to put a team on his back offensively to
get them to that. Level And Ben, roethlisberger even though
(22:44):
he played another what was that nine years he had
all his success before twenty, twelve Before Todd haley changed,
anything was when they were actually winning and getting to
The Super bowl and winning a couple of. Them and
so Until Josh allen actually gets over that, hump he's
got to do whatever he can by any means necessary
to get that first.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Ring forget all, That i'm going all out and. Again, okay,
yeah year fourteen, fifteen to your, point we won. One
let me try, it, okay because at the end of the,
day man If Cam newton mess around would have won that,
one that changes everything. Exactly Super bowl, winner say he
was THE mvp in That now he's a regular SEASON
mvp Super BOWL. Mvp that would have been in the same.
Season so that would have been crazy had he won
That Super, bowl and that changes how we look at
(23:23):
you change the trajector. Exactly SO i get him an,
OVERALL i think we both agree that it makes. Sense i'm.
Not i'm. Not we're not mad at, that but, listen
you gotta find a way to get to the Super.
Bowl and you got a lot of great quarterbacks in your.
Conference all. Right on the, way AS i, mentioned, man
we Have Michael. Fabiano we'll go talk to Him Sports
illustrated senior fantasy. Analysts maybe he can find me a
(23:43):
league to Get Monty belanos right now is gonna get
you set on on's. Trending, yeah but oh, WELL i
can't do. It it's trademarked by, You Bill. Belichick all, right.
Speaker 6 (23:56):
Guys we'll start in THE nfl, today the big news
was That chiefs Wide Rashi rice has been suspended for
the first six games of the regular season for violating
the League's personal conduct. Policy jaguars receiver and Cornerback Travis,
hunter who has been dealing with an upper body injury
since About October august, fourteenth didn't play in the final
two preseason, games is. Healthy the team announced that he
(24:18):
is going to play in their season opener Against carolina
On september. Seventh, Also Travis hunter has announced that he
is a.
Speaker 7 (24:26):
Daddy he is a new. FATHER a video that.
Speaker 6 (24:30):
He posted on his YouTube channel about three minutes long
shows the.
Speaker 7 (24:34):
Journey With. Leanne yeah, sure.
Speaker 6 (24:38):
Yes, Leanne and it's about three minutes, long and it's
from the beginning all the way to the, end and
he is now a new father to. Him, Congrats yeah
To Travis. Hunter welcome to your club.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Day he started off early twenty.
Speaker 7 (24:54):
THREE i think she's twenty. TWO i think he's twenty.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Three over undred three and a. Half oh, yeah he's
getting of.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
Kids oh, yeah oh, Yeah oh my, gosh a minimum
three minimum.
Speaker 6 (25:04):
Three, yeah probably probably took a. Graduate congratulations To Travis.
Hunter we'll check in on baseball right. Now it's been
back and, forth guys between The twins and The Blue.
Jays minnesota is backup six to five right, now bottom
of the fourth, Inning mets have added another run against The.
Phillies it's four zero now In New. York bottom of
the sixth. Inning The orioles have taken the lead from
The Red sox to. One top of the eighth with
(25:25):
The brewers edging The diamondbacks at home one. Zero top
of the fourth. Inning The cardinals have a one zero
lead over The pirates at. Home it's the bottom of
the fourth inning and you can catch all the action
ON fs. One The rangers have taken the lead from The.
Angels it's three to, one and they also have the bases.
Loaded it's the bottom of the first inning and they've
got one out to go at. Home went out in
the first inning to Go astros up on The rockies one.
Speaker 7 (25:46):
Zero right, now top of the second.
Speaker 6 (25:47):
Inning at THE Us open, today on the women's, Side
americans and four Seed Jess, pagoula number one Seed.
Speaker 7 (25:53):
No seven Seed.
Speaker 6 (25:54):
Aminavarro they both won their second round match in straight.
Sets on the men's, Side american four Seed Taylor, fritz
seven Seed Novak djokovic and seventeen Seed Francis.
Speaker 7 (26:03):
Tiaffo they're also moving on to the third. Round back
to you, guys.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
All, RIGHT monti thank. You we are the odd couple
Rob gs and For, Roby I'm Kevin washington on a Worship,
WEDNESDAY ak AND. E stiff back joints not. Cooperating some
days your body is just like. No and all those, days,
thankfully luckily there is a. Leave it was just one.
Pill the lead provides up to twelve hours of paying
release so you can keep. Moving use as directing joining
us now as. Promise Michael Fabiano Sports Illustrated Senior fantasy
(26:30):
Analyst Michael Underscore fabiano on Ex michael with, up, brother
how you. Doing i'm good.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Man it is the busy time of the year, here
so getting geared up for many fantasy drafts because this
is like the last week until the regular. Season obviously
we kick off the week from tomorrow and there are
going to be a lot of drafts going.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
On well hopefully there will be, mine Because i'm not
in the league right, now AND i DECIDED i want
to be in one this. YEAR i took a couple
of years off after like sixteen years st SO i,
SAID i want to you, KNOW i got three. Kids
let me just you, know, FOCUS i want to be. Back,
so by the, way before we get out of, This.
Michael let me know if you know somebody who has
a lead they. NEEDED i mean gonna be joining up in.
There i'll pay you. That it can be paying. League
(27:12):
i'll put some money. IN i don't. Care let's do
it all. Right let's get to the obvious news of.
Today monzi just started it, There Rashid. Rice six games
for fantasy owners of maybe, him fantasy owners of Maybe
Patrick mahomes or just you, know or anything around the.
Chiefs what are you, expecting how this impacted and just
how to handle?
Speaker 4 (27:29):
It, WELL i, mean clearly that hurts his. Value you
miss in the first six. Games the good news is
that we kind of know, now right because there had
been a report that he was going to be allowed
to play the first four or five weeks and then
there would be a mid season suspension. Whatever and then
some reports came out so that that was not. True
welcome to social. Media so now we know he's going
(27:49):
to be gone for six. Games and while it makes
him less, ATTRACTIVE i don't think you should avoid him all,
together because once he comes, back you're looking at a
player who could be a wide receiver one in. FANTASY i, mean,
clearly was the number one wide receiver last year before
he went Down With Patrick. Mahomes they had a great
connection together in the. Interim Xavier're worthy is going to
be a fine wide. Receiver. Two he's going to be
(28:11):
a top fifty, pick no doubt about. That for six,
weeks he's going to be. Fantastic he may want to
try and sell high on him at that point Once
Rashe rice comes, Back but just Because rice is, suspended
don't avoid. Him i'm not telling you to draft him
as your wide receiver. Too But i'm always the type
of fantasy manager that thinks IF i can get a
discounted a, guy and, No i'm not going to have
him for the first six. Weeks fantasy football championships are
(28:31):
not one in the first six. Weeks they're one at
the end of the, season in the second half of the,
season in the stretch. Run AND i Think Rashie rice
could be a league winner for. You so he falls
in my. RANKINGS i, mean that's kind of, Obvious but
he's not a Guy i'm. Avoiding in, Fact i'm kind
of trying to get the discount on. Him i'll stash
him and then once he comes, back hopefully rock and.
Roll i've got a wide receiver, One michael.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Sticking with Those.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Chiefs is it fair to say that the days Of
Patrick mahoons being a no doubt about him locked IN
qb one are officially.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Over.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
Yeah so he's still A qb one in, fantasy which
means that he's a top, ten top twelve, quarterback but
he's no longer a guy that you just said it
and forget, it Like Josh allen said it and forget,
It Jalen, Hurts Lamar, Jackson Jayden, daniels Like Joe. Burrow
they're not coming out of your. Lineup But i've been
beating the drum On Patrick mahomes not being that great
(29:22):
of a fantasy quarterback really for the last couple of.
Years and two years ago we didn't expect, it and
a lot of, people, oh it was one, year he'll bounce.
Back he. Didn't and so now it's to the point
where all right now he has no Where she writes
for six weeks And Travis kelce or SHALL i Say
Taylor swift fiance thirty five going on thirty. Six he's
(29:45):
certainly lost a little. Bit maybe this is not the,
season and a lot of people Think mahomes will bomce
back this. YEAR i just don't see, it especially With
reis being suspended for six. Weeks The chiefs are still
winning like they're going To Super, bowls And mahomes is
not putting up five THOUS i was in fifty touchdown.
Passes they don't need to do. That so is the.
TOP i have them ranked as my sixth best. Quarterback
(30:08):
but that also approves to you that you can kind of.
WAIT i, mean IF i am in the ninth round
And Kyler murray is, there, Boom i'm. Happy IF i
can get back in the ninth or tenth, Round, Boom i'm.
HAPPY i Love drake may this season IF i can
get him as a, backup, Absolutely Caleb. Williams the same
kind of thing every. Year no matter, what you will
find quarterbacks like Bo nicks And Bigger mayfield last, year
(30:30):
just two examples who legit like our double digit round
Picks Hugo bananas and end up in the top.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Twelve he Is Michael, Fabiano Sports Illustrated Senior fantasy analyst
joining the act couple me Kelvin, Washington rob g who
was in For. ROPPY i want to go to the
running backs a little. Bit by the, way it was really, Cool,
michael to see the resurgence of running. Backs you, know
it's all over running backs don't, matter blah. Blah you
can get him by committee and just see what, guys
(30:56):
even guys Like Dus jacobs and obviously Sa kwan And Derek.
Henry just see guys bounce back and have these really good. Years,
hey running backs MATTER. Nfl BUT i said, that to,
say is there going to be a regression at all
With saquan is maybe The. Eagles do they go a
little more aerial or do you expect them to be
as dominant as he was last?
Speaker 4 (31:12):
YEAR i, Don't and in, fact where he's getting, DRAFTED
i don't want. Him and Say Quon barkley is a
fantastic running. Back, OKAY i have not seen And i've
been doing this for over twenty five, YEARS i have
not seen a running back face more negative running back
trends going into a season in, say Quad, barkley here's
(31:33):
WHAT i. Mean have you guys heard of the curse
of three SEVENTY i haven't heard of.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
It, no what's?
Speaker 4 (31:37):
That, Okay so when a running back has three hundred
and seventy more touches in the single season more likely than.
Not statistically and, historically the numbers go. Down if you
look at historical data on running backs who have four
hundred carries between the regular season and the, playoffs the following,
year the stats go. Down if you look at the
running backs who rushed for two thousand yards in a single,
(31:57):
season every single running back has seen the decline of
at least ninety nine fantasy points the following. Year and
that Was Eric. Dickerson and if you guys out there
don't know Who Eric dickerson, is go watch film on.
Him he's freaking. Awesome one of the greatest running backs
in the history of the national football.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Team and we'll tell you about it, Too, michael he
will get already and tell YOU i was that. Guy.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
LISTEN i Know, eric AND i used to love watching
him when he was when he was a. Player and,
then if you're, superstitious bark was on The madden. Cover
so and that's kind of like the fourth, like all,
right you know, whatever, fast you'll stop being an. Idiot
but historically, speaking he is destined to. Regress and So
i'm seeing him drafted in the top. FIVE i don't want.
(32:37):
Him i've seen people draft them number one. OVERALL i
don't want him. There IF i am on the board
at eight nine and he's still, THERE i might think about.
It but people may, think, well that's. Crazy he's not
going to be on the board. Exactly but you have
to think outside the. Box in THE nfl And fantasy.
Football last, year we LOVE. Cj. Shroud The texans got
all these weapons and he's going to be, great and he's.
(32:58):
Stunk and you know whether it was the offensive line
or hammer or mix of. Both there are so many
weird things that happened in THE. Nfl, okay how many
of you guys out, THERE i thought Bo nix woul
Outscore Patrick mahomes And fantasy last. Year i'll wait for
you to raise your, hands because nobody's raising their, hand.
Right you have to think outside the. Box you can't
draft last year's best team and the sick one's. Awesome,
(33:18):
listen don't get me, wrong the guy's. Phenomenal i'm so
happy that he got out Of New york and he
won a championship In. Philadelphia But i'm looking at historical data,
here AND i love the history of The National Football
league who pertains to fantasy, football and it all bodes
very poorly For Saquon duplicating what he did this past,
season that's a lot of work that he. Had.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Guys, YEAH i have no doubt about.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
It last, month for, me we have a mutual, Friend Jason.
Smith he comes on after us you're on this, show.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
And like a brother to. ME i adore, him even
though he rooted for some really bad.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
Teams speaking of, that There's New York, Jets No Aaron
rodgers Incomes Justin. Fields is there any scenario where the
switch From rogers To fields actually helps the fantasy outlook
for guys Like Breese, Hall Garrett wilson.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
At, Quarterback, yes Because Justin, fields no matter how bad
a ball he, throws can still be a top ten
or top twelve fantasy quarterback because he can run with the,
Football and that's a huge difference when you're talking about
reality and. Fantasy Justin fields was a top ten quarterback
In chicago even though it's completion percentage was like. Sixty
(34:22):
SO i think it helps the Situated fields ends up
being the, Starter and if you look at the numbers last,
YEAR i know he was inconsistent In, pittsburgh but in
the six games that he, started he was on pace
based on his per game average to score More prince
Than Jalen. Hurst i'm not. Kidding go ahead and do the.
Math go and do the. Math SO i know he's
(34:42):
not a good, passer but a couple of years ago
In chicago not being a good, PASSER Dj moore was
a wide receiver. Six Garrett wilson And Justin fields know
each other From Ohio. State Garrett wilson is the only
dude on That jets team that has any kind of
reliable pass catching chops and you know the name name
wide receiver, two three and. Four, okay like they're just
(35:05):
they're just not. Great so he's going to get a
ton of. Targets they're going to run the ball a.
TON i am worried About bristol. Though brisol has been
dropping in drafts because in the preseason we Saw Braylon
allen get. Burned we saw HIS Aa davis get. Burned
we've Heard Aaron glenn come out and, say you, know
all three of these guys are going to get. USED
i Think priests is the most talented of the, three,
obviously but you also have to keep in mind a
(35:26):
few years ago when he was the running back two
his last three games of the, year he averaged thirty
three points per. Game he got targeted a. TON i
think it Was Trevor simeon who took over for The
jets because they were done With Zach. Wilson All Trevor
simeon did was dump the ball down To brisall as a,
receiver and that was what really pushed him over the
edge to be a running back. Too before that three game,
(35:47):
stretch he was averaging like fourteen points a, game which is,
good but it's not, elite and So breshall to me
should be a back END rb, one high END rb.
Two but there's risk there because Again Braylen allen Is
Isaiah davis there Erin glenn comes From. Detroit detroit like
to run two running. Backs they don't have two great
running backs In New york like they did In. Detroit
(36:07):
but they also don't have any pass catchers beyond like you,
Know Garrett, WILSON i, Mean Mason. Taylor maybe you, know
can end up being something there for The, Jets BUT
i think The jets will have a couple of valuable fantasy.
ASSETS i don't know that they'll have any you, know
quote unquote elite fantasy. Assets And, jason if you're listening or,
(36:27):
Not i'm, SORRY.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
I forget forget.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Him.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Man Hey, michael we're up against.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
It.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Man thank you so. Much we appreciate you as. Always,
Brother thank you for your. Time thank. You have a great,
night no. Doubt all, right one's got to go in
honor Of travis And, taylor it's going to be on
hour to. Them i'll tell you what it. Is it's the.
Couple Fox Sports.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
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Speaker 1 (36:58):
Raise your, Father rest up our. Dads come, On, Manzi,
actually don't do, It monzi right, now right, now we
don't have. Time don't act like you was at A
dodger game and it was all. Exhaustic stop. It it's
the ocople Kelvin, Washington rob g And ferrope on a Worship,
wednesday And i'm gonna get straight to it right. Now
it's time for one's gotta. Go all, Right so in
honor Of Travis kelce getting on that, knee Looking taylor
(37:21):
in his face and saying me me at the author
and yo white. Dress and she said yes And i'm
gonna do it and wrote a song about. It all,
right we only have a few minutes. Here let's get to.
It the ones gotta go this. Edition Patrick, moncey, uh
Miss Mary. Mack ROB g myself is proposing to a. Woman.
Monti the song's.
Speaker 7 (37:41):
Over my, Goodness i'm still singing.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
It proposing to a? Woman, ways and what's to do?
It are you? Righty here we go an. Airplane you
know you've seen that where it's Like, sarah will you marry?
Me on the banner on the? Plane, okay write them,
down banner on the. PLANE a? Game you had A dodger,
Game please for your attention to section. Five ROB g
wants to. Know and then you go like that that's
(38:03):
one family or friends of been like all hanging out
and family friends and, bam you just get under. Knee
everybody screaming a mall like you're just you know how
they drop down like a flash mob at the. Mall
you're sitting in the mall and they just. Dropping everybody
looks and everybody staring like an impromptu random place like,
that and lastly, work akaa her, job like you just
(38:25):
you pull she at, work you're just surprised you pull.
Up one's gotta.
Speaker 7 (38:29):
GO a lot of them gotta.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Go that's the real that's the real. Answer. One but don't,
really but only one has to. Go so, manti if you,
Ready patrick or Miss Mary, mack whoever's, Right, patrick you're
ready to go, Ahead i'm. Ready IF i have to pick,
one it's the mall. One come, on that's. Random, Nah
i'm out on the mall. One i'm gonna add in the.
Mall WHAT i mean is you're like a random. Place
(38:51):
you get What i'm, saying, like how do you out
in public on?
Speaker 7 (38:54):
That but you're out at? Dinner you're out at? Here
maybe that kind of a THING i did one you Know.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Disney you see it At disney because in front of the,
castle always do that in front of the. CASTLE i
think she'd be going to, like oh, le why we
over the? Castles is really just something you walk. Through
so here go, ahead man running a long.
Speaker 7 (39:12):
TIME a lot of them have to.
Speaker 6 (39:13):
Go BUT i think for me at a, GAME i
can't be at, work and.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
Okay it be A laker. Game, MAN i can't.
Speaker 6 (39:20):
Be at The clipper game cheering for the beard and
the claw and then you're going down on one.
Speaker 7 (39:25):
KNEE i ain't got time for. THAT i am.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
PAYING i.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
Can't we're in the middle of a comeback right. NOW
i can't forever think she was the. CURSE i should
have never got engaged right.
Speaker 6 (39:34):
To the, playoffs like in my ye stadium getting here in.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Judge no all, right no so no, game we got
no mall and just kind of out in. Public, Mary
i'm not gonna.
Speaker 7 (39:41):
Lie i'll be damn you do it on the plane, though.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
Well, no not on the. Plane remember it's the banner
you're sitting, there the banner on the, plane the banner
on the, plane like the plan is to narrow in.
THERE i don't. KNOW i hate all of them, though
but no on my. Job don't do it on my.
Job He's god. Forbid not at the. Job i'll be
looking like a bum. Here why would you propose blanket
on and?
Speaker 3 (40:03):
Sweatpants rob g big. FACTS a lot of them got to,
go you, know like you guys, said the airplane batterer
got to.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
Go, really the airplane batter because it's like this. Cheesy
it's eighties no.
Speaker 6 (40:15):
More it is, cheesy but you can get away with,
it like ebody has to see.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
It everybody's gonna see.
Speaker 6 (40:22):
It you just like that's not for, you that's not
that's not for, me somebody, else somebody.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
ELSE i think the one that has to go Is
believe it or not a game as, Well, yeah BECAUSE
i think that's just too much, Press Like i'm, sure,
yeah and then you made the whole. Thing we're on
the Jumbo tron and just and and and just and
and you lose the intimacy of the moment you. People,
yeah and it's just too many and maybe you wanted
(40:45):
to tell people. Later now it's all over social udn't
Even Bleacher reports got it That Fox sports got it.
Up so, YEAH i think that what happened to, me you, know,
yeah like you're proposing everybody. Else so all, right, well
congrats To travis And, taylor AND i might put this
one on socials and see what people say as. WELL
i might have to do
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Speaker 3 (00:37):
He can tell you how bad of it is. An
idea is to have a new fantasy league a week
before the season starts.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Don't do me like that. That's a terrible idea. What's
your point. It's gonna be like three people. It's gonna
you and your daughter, and I'm gonna find somebody, find somebody. Listen.
Matter of fact, miss Mary mac turning music down right now,
let music listen, y'all. If you have a fantasy league
and you have enough people and they're serious and they
(01:03):
really want to be in it. Hit your boy up,
kateub live on.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Suit socials, an't join kW the right randomness people?
Speaker 1 (01:10):
How many are you in? Though? Patrick? I don't want
you to join. If I'm like your six Lee, I
feel like as a relationship, I don't want to be
not my segs. I'm only in two. I can go
for three. Okay, all right, all right, you got one.
I got one as long as I'm not commissioner because
I'm commissioning to see that's what happened. I was the
commissioner for thirteen fourteen years, rob g and I got
tired of it and yeah, yeah I had a kid,
(01:32):
Yeah you had another one, Yeah, I had another one
in the twenty twenties, Rob, She nobody has three kids
in the twenty twenties. What am I doing? Miss Mary Mac?
Three kids in the twenty twenty is like six in
the eighties. Keep that energy away from me to the eighties.
You're young. You might get up there. And then I
had another job the way her jarge is dropping. And
then I had another job, and so I had to
(01:53):
fall back for a few years, come out two or
three years. So now I'm like, you know what I
want to get my fantasy back on. My wife said
what I say, hold on, baby, I'm in and so, uh,
you don't expect me to part taking any of that
weird stuff. No, no, no, my mam will joined Kelvin. I swear,
I swear my mam will joined now. No, so not
to your mom. We are. We're forming our own relationship
without we do.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
So.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Yeah, kitub live hit you boy if you if you
got a league, I might be interested in enjoying it.
I don't want to get back. I got to hit
the other station up to the Spectrum News one. I
got to talk to them too. I got a few
days to make this happen all right on the other side,
So we got one's got to go to the bottom
of the hour. Looking forward to that and then next
hour our Jay Young Fox Sports national college football analysts,
as we got some big games coming up over the
weekend as well. All right, let's let's talk about this one. Uh,
(02:36):
the Bears have been If the Browns have dominated, the
Cowboys have dominated, I would argue maybe the Bears have
been the third biggest story in Ken Brown's medalist for sure. Yeah,
they're the bronze medalists. Hey, they still meddled, and that
is because Ben Johnson, first time head coach over there,
and obviously Kayler william former Heisman winner second year this year,
folks want to see more from him. Uh, let's just
talk about the way we are right now. Rober, you
I have you break it down the latest with the potential.
(02:58):
You gotta report that. Don't be scared. Don't be scared.
It's not crazy for there to be a situation where
Caleb might get benched.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Yeah, which is crazy because the person who said it
is not a guy like me, who's, you know, watching
from afar. It's not a guy like you was watching
from Afar. It is a guy who's in the building
every single day. Bears Beat reporter Dan Wheeder or The Athletic,
did an interview in Chicago on Monday, and he was
talking about the situation with the team, more specifically as
it relates to the Ben Johnson Caleb Williams marriage, which
(03:30):
publicly from the outside looking in doesn't seem great, you know,
but we're not there every day, we don't know for sure.
During the conversation, Wheeter said something that really blew people's minds.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
And here's what he said. Quote, I don't think this
head coach.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Is just gonna sit around on his hands and go,
you know, we're just gonna give Caleb forever to meet
and reach the checkpoints we've set out for him. And
so because you now have a QB two Entyson bagent
that everyone in the building believes in and continues to
show significant progress from where he was too plus years
ago when he walked into the building. That conversation talking
about going from Williams to Beijing isn't one that Chicago
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should be scared of the idea Again, to summarize the
idea is what are he's saying?
Speaker 1 (04:16):
The idea that.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
The Bears could have a quarterback controversy in year one
of the Ben Johnson era.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Don't be scared. Don't be scared your thoughts all right?
So here here's why I want to break this down.
You have a coach and Ben Johnson who is a
first timer in the NFL, which stands for a couple
of things, will come the No Fun League but also
known as the not for Long League, stensibly for coaches.
(04:46):
And Ben Johnson's coming to a situation where he inherits
a Heisman Trophy winner who everybody said he is the
next thing since Andrew Luck and the talent is there
clearly to the tune of a Heisman, but also we've
just been able to see make some throws. He's able
to run. You're like, man, the talent is there. We
have to work on the intangibles and the other things.
But I think this is why this is either gonna
work or could be violatile, because if you got the
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guy and Ben Johnson, who can extract the most from Caleb,
who can expect the most from of Caleb, who can say, yeah,
I know you can do all that the sandlot backyard football,
You've got that. You've been able to do that since
probably Pop Warner all the way up the high school
to college and now the pros. That doesn't work like
that now. The issue is you pair the two improvisation
(05:32):
making stuff happen, superman kind of guy with a system timing,
precision guy. So they either got to find a way
to meet leaning towards the middle, maybe a little bit
more towards Ben Johnson, or it's just not gonna work
because this is what Ben Johnson had been dealing with.
You know what Jared Goff's completion percentage was last year
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what was it seventy two oh gur wow for the season,
not a game, not a division, not a player, seventy
two point four before that, sixty seven sixty five, sixty seven,
sixty seven cix. So my point is he's used to
and more important than just the completion percentage, it's the timing.
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It's the precision. And you know what the beauty of
knowing your weaknesses are. You know what you can and
can't do right. Jared Goff knows if this play doesn't work.
He's got that old school Peyton manning. What is that member?
Peyton would just fall before you can even hit me.
Hi boom one two. He's not dropped. You're not even
gonna sack me. No, canna put your hands on me
next play, yep. Jared Goff is built like that precision timing.
(06:38):
Who's open accuracy? Okay, get it out, but let's move
us go. And that was how that offense ran. Ben
Johnson ran a top five offense for his entire time
with the Lions, number one last year in offense. So
what I'm saying is he's used to a certain way,
and I think there's a level of frustration, and he's
also used to a guy in Jared Goff who had
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been what cast off. Yeah, you gotas to a super Bowl,
but it wasn't you, it was us. We're good enough
without you. Go get out of here, go to Detroit.
Some people will call the depths of Hell an NFL. Right,
And he had a bounce back, no, i'mna prove you
wrong attitude already a veteran something to prove. And again
now he has a different type of skill set than Caleb,
(07:23):
and I think Ben Johnson. He looks at the backup
and he says, I mean, I don't want to go there,
but that's more what I'm used to. If this is
weird science, shout up to the movie in the eighties,
and I'm building something, it looks a little bit more
like that because that's what I'm used to. That's what
I can work with. And I have to break twenty
three year old habits with you, of you being able
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to do what you do to the tune of a heisman,
so you think it's the right way to do it, yep.
And I have to try to break that. And I
think he's frustrated with them not breaking the huddle fast enough.
We know that. I think he's frustrated with how bad
they looked his last preseason game and he's like, dude,
this is our third game. We're down seventeen to nothing
before we got to Reswisch the start off exactly, this
is our third game. I think he's frustrated with the inaccuracy.
(08:06):
We talk about it and had hoop shorts and T
shirts and you're going five to seventeen. And I think
there's a level of him that says, also the reason
I brought up the NFL not for long. I'm not
gonna sit up here and we go four and thirteen,
five and twelve and don't look good, and everybody's blaming
it on me. And it looks bad because I'm not
a former number one pick in the highsch where I
(08:26):
might get another year or two. We got to wake
it work. That was our pick. They might let me
go quick. We know that you can be successful and
get you and me coach of the Year in sports
and get fired the next season.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
It's happened, you can win the Super Bowl two years
later out of a jolt, exactly.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
So I think he is just why he's just saying, look, man,
get it right. And for him to say it publicly.
I don't want to make the same as he said,
long as we're heading right for the directions and not
making the same mistakes twice. I think he's doing some
trying to do some zen Master, Phil Jackson, Jedi Mintrie. Hey, Caleb,
get it right, brother, because I got a guy like
just got a deal two year, ten mil, which is
(09:03):
a good amount for a backup. Yeah, especially a back
up who is not like James Winston. You can get it.
We're used to that. He's been here for a long time.
Jacobe Weresett, those kind of guys. He's not that. So
I just understand it, and I think their styles they're
gonna have to find a way to meet in the middle.
Leaning more towards Ben Johnson. Otherwise, I could just see
him saying, man, I can't deal with this the more
(09:24):
remedial issues. Yeah, no, I'm with you, and it's well documented.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
You can check my Twitter out at to producer RG
that I am not a big Caleb Williams fan.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
I just don't believe.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
That his style of football necessarily translate to most NFL teams.
Are their exceptions obviously, Patrick Mahomes, you know, had at
a quarterback coach or a head coach, excuse me, and
Andny Reid who was willing to let him do the
backyard stuff, but then he'd reel them in.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Right.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
But for the most part, if you look at a
lot of these most successful coaches, Sean McVay, Ben Johnson,
is Won, Kyle Shanahan, they're the type where it's like, no,
my system, run my system.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Trust me.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
It's like novacane, give it time. It's gonna work. As
long as you do what I tell you to do,
we're gonna be successful. And that's not necessarily the way
that Caleb Williams plays. Even with that said, I'm with
you in the sense that if this goes sideways, I
don't believe it's gonna be because of him. It's gonna
be because, as you mentioned Ben Johnson again, it's only
(10:21):
the preseason, it's only the off season, it's only training camp.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Whatever.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
He has shown himself to be a little bit short tempered,
he has shown himself to be a little bit on
edge all the time. He has shown himself so far
at least, to be unable to kind of connect to
these guys as professionals, as personal guy, as personal men
and women, you know on the staff. He is like
(10:47):
a lot of guys are. Historically, I was a play designer,
a play call. I'm in my little cave drawing up
some really cool stuff, and I'm great with the x's
and o's. I necessarily have to worry about the timeouts,
and I have to worry about the media. I'd have
to worry about all the things that come along with
being a head football coach in the NFL. And because
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of that, as you mentioned, he wants things done a
certain way, and what he wants is not at all
what Kayler Williams does well. We mentioned the athletic quarterback
tiers that came out a few weeks ago and one
of the reasons why, or as the biggest reason why
Kayla Williams was consistently in Tier three despite being viewed
(11:28):
as a generational prospect. Here are the quotes in terms
of processing, ability to get in the ball out of
his hands.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
It was the worst we played against. Here's another one.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Processing to me was alarming watching the tape, so I
could totally see a scenario where, because we've already seen
it this offseason in preseason in training camp, Ben Johnson
throws his offense off the field. Ben Johnson says, Luther Burning,
you cannot work in with the first and second team
because you didn't do this right, So I'm gonna punish
you in this regard. I could see a scenario just
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looking at their schedule the first five games of the year.
They got Vikings, Lions, Cowboys, Raiders, Commanders, depending how you
feel about them, there is a scenario where they start
off one in five, two, and four, And I could
totally see a situation where Cayleb Williams is in a
game and he's going nine for twenty one, or he's
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you know, twelve for thirty or whatever it is. He's
having one of those games that young quarterbacks have all
the time. It's not normally a cause for concern. It
just happens. But maybe he's you know, zero touchdowns, two
interceptions or no touchdowns, one pick, he lost the fumble,
he's been sacked a couple of times.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Whatever it is.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Right, he's holding the ball too long. They're down big.
The coach says, hey, it's not your day, Caleb. Don't
worry about it. We don't want you to get hurt.
Let's throw in Tyson bagent real quick, let him finish
this one Offens will live to fight another day. And
then Tyson, beagent running the system that Ben Johnson knows
and loves, comes in and leads him to a quick
scoring drive. So instead of losing thirty one nothing, they
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lose thirty one to ten whatever it is. And then
next thing you know, we got a quarterback controversy because
Ben Johnson didn't necessarily shut it down by saying, hey,
Caleb's our guy or man, it was great to see
Tyson out there. He looked really good, he looked really comfortable.
And again it's not necessarily Caleb's fault because he's young
and he's supposed to go through this kind of stuff.
(13:23):
But the way Ben Johnson's wired, man, I could totally
see a scenario where this ends, not ends, but there's
some rough fatches there at Chicago.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Here's where I will give some caution to Ben Johnson. Though.
This reminds me a little bit of the JJ Reddick
guys who are so high strong, and I watch so
much film. You don't understand, don't you see it? Like
calm down? You know why Phil Jackson was great because
he said, hey, Dennis Robin, go to Vegas in the
middle of the season. Right, blow off some steam, that's
what you mean? Oh you mean just just tonight? No, no, no,
(13:52):
miss games. Who does that? Right? You look at Ben Johnson,
where'd he come from? Detroit? Dan Campbell more of the
overarching coach, Right, I'm the whole, like the ski I'm
not into xs and os. I'm the just modern managing
the temperament of the team, the personalities. We kind of have,
my ethos, my vibe, my aura that sometimes is a
(14:14):
head coach. Head coach isn't always just you know, we're
gonna do it. This might win in and high strung something.
You look at Sean McVay, he's high strong a bit,
but he's also very much a player's coach. He's probably
I would imagine if we sat him right here, and
I've heard him talk about it, just living in la
a lot. He's had to learn that.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
That balance of Mike Tomlin is one of those guys
who you look at who he's had on his team
and the fact that he was able to keep him
together get to the playoffs every year. A great balance
of Big Ben, Antonio Brown, Levan Bell, I'm the same roster.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
A great balance of expectations and holding you to a
high standard, but also play, hey, what's going on? Man,
how's everything? So Ben Johnson Well will have to learn
that it ain't always about me just proving my point
and who's right and wrong. And I'm gonna say this
in the media, especially when you don't have that equity, right,
Mike tom It can do it. He Mike Tomlin at
this point, right, Andy Reid, and he's Andy Reid. You
(15:05):
do have to earn that. And especially in the time
where they're like, uh, Janna Jackson, what have you done
for me?
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Like?
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Who? I mean, that'saw what you're doing with Detroit, But
who are you? Ain't doing nothing here?
Speaker 3 (15:13):
It's like when you're throwing guys out of practice the
first day, like what's what's the next step?
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Right? And exactly? And I think you're trying to set
a tone, but it's like, I don't know what your
tone setting is, right? Who are you that Bill Belichick
could do that and we all would know what that meant. Yep,
I don't know your standing. I don't know what you're
going to do. So is Bill Belichick came there with
Super Bowl rings already in New England, he did as
we were watching right now, told you they got the
thirty for thirty going all right, so it will be
(15:42):
very interesting to see this play out. But I think Kaylee,
they're they're in a position where if Caleb can just
start to improve in those things because he has a
mastermind at it. But also Ben Johnson's gonna have to
practice patience more than he probably had to do the
last four or five years with Jared goff In, a
pro and a veteran who had a lot to prove
coming from you know, being kind of outcast from the
(16:03):
Rams who wanted to bounce back and you know, prove
them wrong. So there was that, all right. Josh Allen
had some thoughts on how he can improve. Do we
agree with those changes? We'll tell you it's theacable Rob
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so let's go ahead and get to this. Josh Allen
has been very vocal and very honest kind of about
(18:10):
everything in his playing career. By the way, you have
a guy, you know, maybe early on the career, kind
of like, you know, I'm indifferent. Maybe you don't like that.
He's hard to not like. Yeah you're Mike. Oh yeah,
he's kind of hard to not like. Man, he just
I like him. I liked him. I like what he's about.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
It's been the off season Josh Allen before this, Taylor Swift, how.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Dare they out do this? With popularity and an engagement
in marriage and he won the MVP. Everything was looking good.
He gets married. Yeah, he's on hard knocks yep, and
he's just no. It was. But then Taylor Travis like, oh,
let's outdo them. Taylor was like, no doubt, let's make
a song about it. Boo. But real quick, just to
get in this for a few minutes here, he said,
my game is gonna have to evolve. Take less punishment.
(18:51):
He talks about it. This was to Albert Breer, of course,
Monday Morning Quarterback, and he just talked about some things.
He said, I he didn't take too many hits. He
loved out his game to ball, and I think last
year was a step in the right direction. I'm not
saying I didn't take any but during the offseason, this
is the best I've ever felt any season because I
(19:11):
didn't take any hits, as just being smarter sliding, getting
out of bounds and throwing the ball away a little
bit quicker and not taking these extra one or two
hits going on. Blah blah blah blah blah. You start
to look at some things about him. Rob g I'm
gonna get down to these numbers real quick. And had
to have playoff games, and four of them with Mahomes.
He has eleven total touchdowns to Mahomes's twelve, so right
(19:31):
there the same He's got thirteen hundred yards to essentially
thirteen hundred yards, so they're all about to say they've
both had one turnover. However, Mahomes has outscored them one
thirty nine to one thirteen. And the most important number
Buffalo is ohing four oh and four Jim Kelly somewhere
like I'm owing four in the Super Bowl. Be least
I got there right. And where I'm going with this
is that sounds good, and I do believe there's true
(19:53):
to that, and I would have say I agree to
that to an extent that you have to improve, you
have to be smarter. You're our key to success, and
you want to have a long career and be able
to play an elongated career and win some games. But ultimately,
this is where I disagree with them, or I won't
say I disagree, but the hyper focus should be on
we gotta win. God gifted you six' six sixty, seven run, fast,
(20:16):
strong jump over. Everybody you're just the natural. Ability you
had none to. Do god was, like here you, go.
Bruh then you do your, part you work, hard you
put on the. Time in the film. Room you're great
with your, Team they love, You the city love, you
got everything you, Need your coaches love. You You're you're,
Dependable you're. There and to, me, man you gotta do
what you gotta do to. Win and if if you
(20:38):
gotta go Full John, elway jump in the end, zone
get spun around like a helicopter to get that end
zone and, win then that's what you, do because dang,
It i'd rather play all out making using my unique,
ability my god given talent that makes me special and
separates me from other guys to try to. Win and
if a dang, it IF i only played twelve thirteen,
season BUT i won one or Two Super bowls by
(21:02):
being WHAT i beat bam and being great at making
it happen by all means in any, cost, well dang,
it that's what it. Is IF i don't play eighteen
nineteen years and, WOW i won a couple of MVPs
AND i went to A Super bowl, one BUT i
never won. It bump all That i'm doing whatever it.
Takes SO i hear him in, theory AND i do.
Believe you do get, smarter and you do become more,
practical and you do become wiser you. Do Russell wilson
(21:23):
become a baseball, slider you, know and you make Sure
i'm not saying take unnecessary hits all the. Time but
what makes you Greatest you can do what others. Can you're, bigger, stronger,
faster and that's what makes you. Unique and if the
goal is to win because you're in a, division, MAN
i mean not the division conference With Patrick mahomes And
Lamar jackson And Justin herbert maybe he gets. THERE. Cj
(21:46):
stroud maybe gets. There Bo nicks might start getting. There
Joe purl already been to A Super. Bowl, man you
gotta do whatever it takes to get there because it's
not guaranteed you will Rob. Gi so if it means
going all out and just whatever it takes for a
handful of, seasons but, dang AND i won. One i'm team.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
That, YEAH i think you're spot. On and what's funny
about this not, Funny but what's interesting about this article
Is Albert brier mentions two large quarterbacks who played a
similar style To Josh allen early, on number one Being Cam,
newton one of them being a Big Ben, roethlisberger and
he mentioned how Hey cam was basically washed out of
the league by age twenty eight to twenty, nine like
it was. Over his body had broken, down his shoulder
(22:22):
was messed. Up it is what it, is and How
Ben roethlisberger re engineered his game at age thirty When
Todd haley arrived and from that point was no longer
running the, ball was no longer even taking. Sacks he
was just kind of throwing the ball. Away lest we forget,
Though Cam newton only made The Super bowls during that
short time because he was playing Like, superman. Right he
had to put a team on his back offensively to
get them to that. Level And Ben, roethlisberger even though
(22:44):
he played another what was that nine years he had
all his success before twenty, twelve Before Todd haley changed,
anything was when they were actually winning and getting to
The Super bowl and winning a couple of. Them and
so Until Josh allen actually gets over that, hump he's
got to do whatever he can by any means necessary
to get that first.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Ring forget all, That i'm going all out and. Again, okay,
yeah year fourteen, fifteen to your, point we won. One
let me try, it, okay because at the end of the,
day man If Cam newton mess around would have won that,
one that changes everything. Exactly Super bowl, winner say he
was THE mvp in That now he's a regular SEASON
mvp Super BOWL. Mvp that would have been in the same.
Season so that would have been crazy had he won
That Super, bowl and that changes how we look at
(23:23):
you change the trajector. Exactly SO i get him an,
OVERALL i think we both agree that it makes. Sense i'm.
Not i'm. Not we're not mad at, that but, listen
you gotta find a way to get to the Super.
Bowl and you got a lot of great quarterbacks in your.
Conference all. Right on the, way AS i, mentioned, man
we Have Michael. Fabiano we'll go talk to Him Sports
illustrated senior fantasy. Analysts maybe he can find me a
(23:43):
league to Get Monty belanos right now is gonna get
you set on on's. Trending, yeah but oh, WELL i
can't do. It it's trademarked by, You Bill. Belichick all, right.
Speaker 6 (23:56):
Guys we'll start in THE nfl, today the big news
was That chiefs Wide Rashi rice has been suspended for
the first six games of the regular season for violating
the League's personal conduct. Policy jaguars receiver and Cornerback Travis,
hunter who has been dealing with an upper body injury
since About October august, fourteenth didn't play in the final
two preseason, games is. Healthy the team announced that he
(24:18):
is going to play in their season opener Against carolina
On september. Seventh, Also Travis hunter has announced that he
is a.
Speaker 7 (24:26):
Daddy he is a new. FATHER a video that.
Speaker 6 (24:30):
He posted on his YouTube channel about three minutes long
shows the.
Speaker 7 (24:34):
Journey With. Leanne yeah, sure.
Speaker 6 (24:38):
Yes, Leanne and it's about three minutes, long and it's
from the beginning all the way to the, end and
he is now a new father to. Him, Congrats yeah
To Travis. Hunter welcome to your club.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Day he started off early twenty.
Speaker 7 (24:54):
THREE i think she's twenty. TWO i think he's twenty.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Three over undred three and a. Half oh, yeah he's
getting of.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
Kids oh, yeah oh, Yeah oh my, gosh a minimum
three minimum.
Speaker 6 (25:04):
Three, yeah probably probably took a. Graduate congratulations To Travis.
Hunter we'll check in on baseball right. Now it's been
back and, forth guys between The twins and The Blue.
Jays minnesota is backup six to five right, now bottom
of the fourth, Inning mets have added another run against The.
Phillies it's four zero now In New. York bottom of
the sixth. Inning The orioles have taken the lead from
The Red sox to. One top of the eighth with
(25:25):
The brewers edging The diamondbacks at home one. Zero top
of the fourth. Inning The cardinals have a one zero
lead over The pirates at. Home it's the bottom of
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ON fs. One The rangers have taken the lead from The.
Angels it's three to, one and they also have the bases.
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got one out to go at. Home went out in
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Speaker 7 (25:46):
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Tiaffo they're also moving on to the third. Round back
to you, guys.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
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Rob gs and For, Roby I'm Kevin washington on a Worship,
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Analyst Michael Underscore fabiano on Ex michael with, up, brother
how you. Doing i'm good.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Man it is the busy time of the year, here
so getting geared up for many fantasy drafts because this
is like the last week until the regular. Season obviously
we kick off the week from tomorrow and there are
going to be a lot of drafts going.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
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in the league right, now AND i DECIDED i want
to be in one this. YEAR i took a couple
of years off after like sixteen years st SO i,
SAID i want to you, KNOW i got three. Kids
let me just you, know, FOCUS i want to be. Back,
so by the, way before we get out of, This.
Michael let me know if you know somebody who has
a lead they. NEEDED i mean gonna be joining up in.
There i'll pay you. That it can be paying. League
(27:12):
i'll put some money. IN i don't. Care let's do
it all. Right let's get to the obvious news of.
Today monzi just started it, There Rashid. Rice six games
for fantasy owners of maybe, him fantasy owners of Maybe
Patrick mahomes or just you, know or anything around the.
Chiefs what are you, expecting how this impacted and just
how to handle?
Speaker 4 (27:29):
It, WELL i, mean clearly that hurts his. Value you
miss in the first six. Games the good news is
that we kind of know, now right because there had
been a report that he was going to be allowed
to play the first four or five weeks and then
there would be a mid season suspension. Whatever and then
some reports came out so that that was not. True
welcome to social. Media so now we know he's going
(27:49):
to be gone for six. Games and while it makes
him less, ATTRACTIVE i don't think you should avoid him all,
together because once he comes, back you're looking at a
player who could be a wide receiver one in. FANTASY i, mean,
clearly was the number one wide receiver last year before
he went Down With Patrick. Mahomes they had a great
connection together in the. Interim Xavier're worthy is going to
be a fine wide. Receiver. Two he's going to be
(28:11):
a top fifty, pick no doubt about. That for six,
weeks he's going to be. Fantastic he may want to
try and sell high on him at that point Once
Rashe rice comes, Back but just Because rice is, suspended
don't avoid. Him i'm not telling you to draft him
as your wide receiver. Too But i'm always the type
of fantasy manager that thinks IF i can get a
discounted a, guy and, No i'm not going to have
him for the first six. Weeks fantasy football championships are
(28:31):
not one in the first six. Weeks they're one at
the end of the, season in the second half of the,
season in the stretch. Run AND i Think Rashie rice
could be a league winner for. You so he falls
in my. RANKINGS i, mean that's kind of, Obvious but
he's not a Guy i'm. Avoiding in, Fact i'm kind
of trying to get the discount on. Him i'll stash
him and then once he comes, back hopefully rock and.
Roll i've got a wide receiver, One michael.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Sticking with Those.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Chiefs is it fair to say that the days Of
Patrick mahoons being a no doubt about him locked IN
qb one are officially.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Over.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
Yeah so he's still A qb one in, fantasy which
means that he's a top, ten top twelve, quarterback but
he's no longer a guy that you just said it
and forget, it Like Josh allen said it and forget,
It Jalen, Hurts Lamar, Jackson Jayden, daniels Like Joe. Burrow
they're not coming out of your. Lineup But i've been
beating the drum On Patrick mahomes not being that great
(29:22):
of a fantasy quarterback really for the last couple of.
Years and two years ago we didn't expect, it and
a lot of, people, oh it was one, year he'll bounce.
Back he. Didn't and so now it's to the point
where all right now he has no Where she writes
for six weeks And Travis kelce or SHALL i Say
Taylor swift fiance thirty five going on thirty. Six he's
(29:45):
certainly lost a little. Bit maybe this is not the,
season and a lot of people Think mahomes will bomce
back this. YEAR i just don't see, it especially With
reis being suspended for six. Weeks The chiefs are still
winning like they're going To Super, bowls And mahomes is
not putting up five THOUS i was in fifty touchdown.
Passes they don't need to do. That so is the.
TOP i have them ranked as my sixth best. Quarterback
(30:08):
but that also approves to you that you can kind of.
WAIT i, mean IF i am in the ninth round
And Kyler murray is, there, Boom i'm. Happy IF i
can get back in the ninth or tenth, Round, Boom i'm.
HAPPY i Love drake may this season IF i can
get him as a, backup, Absolutely Caleb. Williams the same
kind of thing every. Year no matter, what you will
find quarterbacks like Bo nicks And Bigger mayfield last, year
(30:30):
just two examples who legit like our double digit round
Picks Hugo bananas and end up in the top.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Twelve he Is Michael, Fabiano Sports Illustrated Senior fantasy analyst
joining the act couple me Kelvin, Washington rob g who
was in For. ROPPY i want to go to the
running backs a little. Bit by the, way it was really, Cool,
michael to see the resurgence of running. Backs you, know
it's all over running backs don't, matter blah. Blah you
can get him by committee and just see what, guys
(30:56):
even guys Like Dus jacobs and obviously Sa kwan And Derek.
Henry just see guys bounce back and have these really good. Years,
hey running backs MATTER. Nfl BUT i said, that to,
say is there going to be a regression at all
With saquan is maybe The. Eagles do they go a
little more aerial or do you expect them to be
as dominant as he was last?
Speaker 4 (31:12):
YEAR i, Don't and in, fact where he's getting, DRAFTED
i don't want. Him and Say Quon barkley is a
fantastic running. Back, OKAY i have not seen And i've
been doing this for over twenty five, YEARS i have
not seen a running back face more negative running back
trends going into a season in, say Quad, barkley here's
(31:33):
WHAT i. Mean have you guys heard of the curse
of three SEVENTY i haven't heard of.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
It, no what's?
Speaker 4 (31:37):
That, Okay so when a running back has three hundred
and seventy more touches in the single season more likely than.
Not statistically and, historically the numbers go. Down if you
look at historical data on running backs who have four
hundred carries between the regular season and the, playoffs the following,
year the stats go. Down if you look at the
running backs who rushed for two thousand yards in a single,
(31:57):
season every single running back has seen the decline of
at least ninety nine fantasy points the following. Year and
that Was Eric. Dickerson and if you guys out there
don't know Who Eric dickerson, is go watch film on.
Him he's freaking. Awesome one of the greatest running backs
in the history of the national football.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Team and we'll tell you about it, Too, michael he
will get already and tell YOU i was that. Guy.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
LISTEN i Know, eric AND i used to love watching
him when he was when he was a. Player and,
then if you're, superstitious bark was on The madden. Cover
so and that's kind of like the fourth, like all,
right you know, whatever, fast you'll stop being an. Idiot
but historically, speaking he is destined to. Regress and So
i'm seeing him drafted in the top. FIVE i don't want.
(32:37):
Him i've seen people draft them number one. OVERALL i
don't want him. There IF i am on the board
at eight nine and he's still, THERE i might think about.
It but people may, think, well that's. Crazy he's not
going to be on the board. Exactly but you have
to think outside the. Box in THE nfl And fantasy.
Football last, year we LOVE. Cj. Shroud The texans got
all these weapons and he's going to be, great and he's.
(32:58):
Stunk and you know whether it was the offensive line
or hammer or mix of. Both there are so many
weird things that happened in THE. Nfl, okay how many
of you guys out, THERE i thought Bo nix woul
Outscore Patrick mahomes And fantasy last. Year i'll wait for
you to raise your, hands because nobody's raising their, hand.
Right you have to think outside the. Box you can't
draft last year's best team and the sick one's. Awesome,
(33:18):
listen don't get me, wrong the guy's. Phenomenal i'm so
happy that he got out Of New york and he
won a championship In. Philadelphia But i'm looking at historical data,
here AND i love the history of The National Football
league who pertains to fantasy, football and it all bodes
very poorly For Saquon duplicating what he did this past,
season that's a lot of work that he. Had.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Guys, YEAH i have no doubt about.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
It last, month for, me we have a mutual, Friend Jason.
Smith he comes on after us you're on this, show.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
And like a brother to. ME i adore, him even
though he rooted for some really bad.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
Teams speaking of, that There's New York, Jets No Aaron
rodgers Incomes Justin. Fields is there any scenario where the
switch From rogers To fields actually helps the fantasy outlook
for guys Like Breese, Hall Garrett wilson.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
At, Quarterback, yes Because Justin, fields no matter how bad
a ball he, throws can still be a top ten
or top twelve fantasy quarterback because he can run with the,
Football and that's a huge difference when you're talking about
reality and. Fantasy Justin fields was a top ten quarterback
In chicago even though it's completion percentage was like. Sixty
(34:22):
SO i think it helps the Situated fields ends up
being the, Starter and if you look at the numbers last,
YEAR i know he was inconsistent In, pittsburgh but in
the six games that he, started he was on pace
based on his per game average to score More prince
Than Jalen. Hurst i'm not. Kidding go ahead and do the.
Math go and do the. Math SO i know he's
(34:42):
not a good, passer but a couple of years ago
In chicago not being a good, PASSER Dj moore was
a wide receiver. Six Garrett wilson And Justin fields know
each other From Ohio. State Garrett wilson is the only
dude on That jets team that has any kind of
reliable pass catching chops and you know the name name
wide receiver, two three and. Four, okay like they're just
(35:05):
they're just not. Great so he's going to get a
ton of. Targets they're going to run the ball a.
TON i am worried About bristol. Though brisol has been
dropping in drafts because in the preseason we Saw Braylon
allen get. Burned we saw HIS Aa davis get. Burned
we've Heard Aaron glenn come out and, say you, know
all three of these guys are going to get. USED
i Think priests is the most talented of the, three,
obviously but you also have to keep in mind a
(35:26):
few years ago when he was the running back two
his last three games of the, year he averaged thirty
three points per. Game he got targeted a. TON i
think it Was Trevor simeon who took over for The
jets because they were done With Zach. Wilson All Trevor
simeon did was dump the ball down To brisall as a,
receiver and that was what really pushed him over the
edge to be a running back. Too before that three game,
(35:47):
stretch he was averaging like fourteen points a, game which is,
good but it's not, elite and So breshall to me
should be a back END rb, one high END rb.
Two but there's risk there because Again Braylen allen Is
Isaiah davis there Erin glenn comes From. Detroit detroit like
to run two running. Backs they don't have two great
running backs In New york like they did In. Detroit
(36:07):
but they also don't have any pass catchers beyond like you,
Know Garrett, WILSON i, Mean Mason. Taylor maybe you, know
can end up being something there for The, Jets BUT
i think The jets will have a couple of valuable fantasy.
ASSETS i don't know that they'll have any you, know
quote unquote elite fantasy. Assets And, jason if you're listening or,
(36:27):
Not i'm, SORRY.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
I forget forget.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Him.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Man Hey, michael we're up against.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
It.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Man thank you so. Much we appreciate you as. Always,
Brother thank you for your. Time thank. You have a great,
night no. Doubt all, right one's got to go in
honor Of travis And, taylor it's going to be on
hour to. Them i'll tell you what it. Is it's the.
Couple Fox Sports.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
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Speaker 1 (36:58):
Raise your, Father rest up our. Dads come, On, Manzi,
actually don't do, It monzi right, now right, now we
don't have. Time don't act like you was at A
dodger game and it was all. Exhaustic stop. It it's
the ocople Kelvin, Washington rob g And ferrope on a Worship,
wednesday And i'm gonna get straight to it right. Now
it's time for one's gotta. Go all, Right so in
honor Of Travis kelce getting on that, knee Looking taylor
(37:21):
in his face and saying me me at the author
and yo white. Dress and she said yes And i'm
gonna do it and wrote a song about. It all,
right we only have a few minutes. Here let's get to.
It the ones gotta go this. Edition Patrick, moncey, uh
Miss Mary. Mack ROB g myself is proposing to a. Woman.
Monti the song's.
Speaker 7 (37:41):
Over my, Goodness i'm still singing.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
It proposing to a? Woman, ways and what's to do?
It are you? Righty here we go an. Airplane you
know you've seen that where it's Like, sarah will you marry?
Me on the banner on the? Plane, okay write them,
down banner on the. PLANE a? Game you had A dodger,
Game please for your attention to section. Five ROB g
wants to. Know and then you go like that that's
(38:03):
one family or friends of been like all hanging out
and family friends and, bam you just get under. Knee
everybody screaming a mall like you're just you know how
they drop down like a flash mob at the. Mall
you're sitting in the mall and they just. Dropping everybody
looks and everybody staring like an impromptu random place like,
that and lastly, work akaa her, job like you just
(38:25):
you pull she at, work you're just surprised you pull.
Up one's gotta.
Speaker 7 (38:29):
GO a lot of them gotta.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Go that's the real that's the real. Answer. One but don't,
really but only one has to. Go so, manti if you,
Ready patrick or Miss Mary, mack whoever's, Right, patrick you're
ready to go, Ahead i'm. Ready IF i have to pick,
one it's the mall. One come, on that's. Random, Nah
i'm out on the mall. One i'm gonna add in the.
Mall WHAT i mean is you're like a random. Place
(38:51):
you get What i'm, saying, like how do you out
in public on?
Speaker 7 (38:54):
That but you're out at? Dinner you're out at? Here
maybe that kind of a THING i did one you Know.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Disney you see it At disney because in front of the,
castle always do that in front of the. CASTLE i
think she'd be going to, like oh, le why we
over the? Castles is really just something you walk. Through
so here go, ahead man running a long.
Speaker 7 (39:12):
TIME a lot of them have to.
Speaker 6 (39:13):
Go BUT i think for me at a, GAME i
can't be at, work and.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
Okay it be A laker. Game, MAN i can't.
Speaker 6 (39:20):
Be at The clipper game cheering for the beard and
the claw and then you're going down on one.
Speaker 7 (39:25):
KNEE i ain't got time for. THAT i am.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
PAYING i.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
Can't we're in the middle of a comeback right. NOW
i can't forever think she was the. CURSE i should
have never got engaged right.
Speaker 6 (39:34):
To the, playoffs like in my ye stadium getting here in.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Judge no all, right no so no, game we got
no mall and just kind of out in. Public, Mary
i'm not gonna.
Speaker 7 (39:41):
Lie i'll be damn you do it on the plane, though.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
Well, no not on the. Plane remember it's the banner
you're sitting, there the banner on the, plane the banner
on the, plane like the plan is to narrow in.
THERE i don't. KNOW i hate all of them, though
but no on my. Job don't do it on my.
Job He's god. Forbid not at the. Job i'll be
looking like a bum. Here why would you propose blanket
on and?
Speaker 3 (40:03):
Sweatpants rob g big. FACTS a lot of them got to,
go you, know like you guys, said the airplane batterer
got to.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
Go, really the airplane batter because it's like this. Cheesy
it's eighties no.
Speaker 6 (40:15):
More it is, cheesy but you can get away with,
it like ebody has to see.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
It everybody's gonna see.
Speaker 6 (40:22):
It you just like that's not for, you that's not
that's not for, me somebody, else somebody.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
ELSE i think the one that has to go Is
believe it or not a game as, Well, yeah BECAUSE
i think that's just too much, Press Like i'm, sure,
yeah and then you made the whole. Thing we're on
the Jumbo tron and just and and and just and
and you lose the intimacy of the moment you. People,
yeah and it's just too many and maybe you wanted
(40:45):
to tell people. Later now it's all over social udn't
Even Bleacher reports got it That Fox sports got it.
Up so, YEAH i think that what happened to, me you, know,
yeah like you're proposing everybody. Else so all, right, well
congrats To travis And, taylor AND i might put this
one on socials and see what people say as. WELL
i might have to do
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