November 23, 2022 • 37 mins
Chris and Rob debate whether or not the impending College Football Playoff expansion will water down mega-rivalries like Ohio State vs. Michigan, tell us why Aaron Rodgers having a broken thumb is a good reason (but not an excuse) for his poor play this season, and explain why Patrick Beverley's shove in the back of Deandre Ayton wasn't all that shocking.
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Oh definitely, yeah, and that's at the bottom of the hour,
so you definitely want to keep it locked for that.
But for now, we're gonna go to some college football
because Rob, huge game. Huge game this weekend. Can't wait
to watch it. Ohio State and Michigan. I mean, and Rob,
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it's always a big game, right, always a huge game.
But this year, Man, both teams undefeated, Ohio State ranked
number two, Michigan ranked number three, and whoever loses is
going to likely almost certainly be out of the college
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football Playoff as far as the top four that qualified.
So this is all the marbles, and it was an
interesting story written in sports illustrated by Michael Rosenberg. Yeah,
he wrote at the Free Press. I know Mike very well,
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and he wrote Rob that the twelve team expansion which
will kick in as soon as twenty twenty four. When
that happens, it'll be a bad thing because this game
between Ohio State and Michigan, for instance, which Saturday, means everything, right,
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I mean, in addition to the great rivalry, in addition
to the Big Ten title, which you know teams have
conference championship games too, but in addition to the VIC
ten title, and it also of course has going to
the College Football Playoff on the line. Of course, once
that expands the twelve teams. In a situation like this,
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both of the teams would still know that they're likely
to make the playoff or almost or going to make
the playoff, so it takes a little bit away from
the game, and he thinks it would take a ton
away from the game, and that's one reason he doesn't
want to see or he's not happy about the twelve
team playoff. Where are you add on this? I know
you didn't really like it. I totally agree with him,
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because if this new a format was in place, Chris,
this game wouldn't matter. They would both be going no
matter what, and that's not what you don't want to have.
I think Mike could spot on on this that as
time goes on and so many teams getting involved, it
will take away from these kind of matchups where you
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know one team has a chance to advance and the
other team is out, and so they could play this
game and not even care about it, arrest people and like, oh,
we're gonna make it anyway, like we're gonna be in
the playoff. Why should we waste our better players or
put our guys out there in a game that doesn't matter.
Can you imagine? I think that's whenever you open up
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a playoff where too many people. You know, what we've
seen in the NBA now with the playing and whatnot,
it's not about Chris. It's not about getting the for
the top seed anymore. Where it's just about, okay, let's
get to the playoffs. Who want to get in, We'll
take some days off. It's okay. You know the other night.
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The other night the Warriors rested like four starters and
all that. You know, like those are the kind of
things you start to look at it and go because
they know that it doesn't matter. It's about getting in
the playoffs and being healthy. And that could happen in
college football, and that's the part that is disappointing if
it does happen. I completely disagree. I mean, you know this, right,
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you worked in Michigan. You think there's gonna be a
day Ohio State Michigan doesn't matter. That game is always
going to matter. It is a rivalry of the highest order,
regardless of whether or not it's for that. Obviously, it
means more if it's for the national championship or a
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right to play for the national championship. But this game
will always mean something. Coaches have been fired with great
records because they couldn't beat the rival next door, and
so this game will always matter. And now I agree,
it's just undeniable that the regular season will be a
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bit watered down a bit, it will still be great,
It'll still be exciting. And college football is full of
great rivalries. We got Alabama Auburn coming up obviously a right,
like you're gonna have tons of rivalries in the SEC
and these other great conferences. That's not going away. It
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just won't be sudden death. It won't be do or die.
It won't be if you lose, your season's over. Still
will be a big deal. And here's what I say,
Rob because you and I have talked about it before
when we grew up, and it was a mythical national champion, right,
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they didn't have a championship game. They had what about
six major bowls, six or seven major bowls played on
New Year's Day, And when you will watch all of them,
and the top teams will be in all of them,
and it would literally be like how bad did you
beat the other team by? That could make you the
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national champion? Like it was just you know you're gonna
watch it, and whoever wins most impressively as far as
beating a high ranking team could move up big time
in the polls. And now rob Let's face it, none
of these bowl games matter. The only postseason college football
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games that matter are the playoff games, the final four,
and then the championship period. I don't care about any
of the other ones, and I don't think most people,
you know, I mean, obviously you got some college football
guys that just watch everything, but most fans only look
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at the championship. And so what I'm saying is expanding
to twelve teams, now, all of those games are going
to matter. That first round playoff game with the top
twelve teams, those six games or however they do it.
But if it's six, or if it's four, you know,
because teams get buys, whatever, it's gonna matter. Then the
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next round is gonna matter. And then you know, you
get to all the way through the championship. I think
it's gonna be great. It's gonna be a playoff. Totally
disagree with you, because when they have four teams now,
most of the games of blowouts, they're not even they're
not even competitive. I think some years, but some who
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did Michigan play last year, Alabama's seventh in the country
this year, Michigananson's Michigan last year, Chris Work, They he
didn't even belong on the field. I can't remember rob
who play. That's not the that's so are we supposed
to do? No, but we've seen plenty of lopsided games
with four teams. Not you're gonna put twelve teams and
maybe another eighth that really don't belong there doesn't mean
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that Abama, it doesn't mean they're gonna they would give
a team a good game. Tennessee's number ten. They were
number one a few weeks ago. Like, I mean, you
don't know TCU who would everything? No, No, I'm talking
about from always verse, what we've seen from so you
think there's only two good teams in the country. But
all I know is from what we've seen in the
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past in the four teams, there's been a lot of
lopsided in blowouts. And that's all I'm worried about is
that those games won't matter. And maybe, Chris, you might
be right, maybe they are exciting. But if they're what
we've got a sample of and they're bad, it's going
to be interesting to see how people feel about them
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and whether or not people are like, oh, I'll wait
till the final four because they're not This is not
that good or not that compelling because they let a
number twelve team that really doesn't belong in the college
playoff and they got rolled by forty. That's all I'm saying.
Oh what, Look, I think that will happen sometimes. Um,
but then there'll be got times when they're closed games.
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Then there'll be times where there's upsets. I mean that's
just the state of college football. And no matter what,
you run that risk, you know. I mean, maybe they
somehow it's got to get more balanced out, maybe nil
doesn't whatever, But I'm just saying, like that risk is
always there. Well, all I know is this, Rob. The
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bowl games to me are to you? Are the ball
games relevant other than the final four? It did you?
I mean really no, because they made them irrelevant. Went
to college football playoffs, so they made it so they're
going to make But I'm talking about more relevant games. No,
But I'm talking about the Michigan ohiuse that. You said, Well,
it'll be it'll always be relevant, always matter. Not if
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Jim Harbar decided I'm gonna make it anyway, I'm not
gonna start my quarterback or I'm not gonna start some
of my top players, and I don't care if we
win or not, because I'm trying to win a national championship.
Beating Ohio status in the top twelve, beating ohiuse state
doesn't matter. They're still gonna I'm saying, if you they're
two and three, they're gonna make it, whether they lose
that game or not. When you got twelve teams coming in,
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I don't We don't see that in the NFL for
the most part. I mean, teams play every weekend. The NBA.
You brought that up. The NBA. The playoffs aren't one
did that. It was the low management that individuals, coaches,
Popovich and individual players started to do. Yeah, but I'm
talking about what ruined that. I'm talking about now twenty
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of the thirty teams make it. I'm just saying it.
It's it took off some of these than when it
just had the pendant when there's the winner of the
American League versus the winner of the National I get that.
I get that it evolved, but you don't want to
make it where people feel like the regular season doesn't matter.
And you could do that in college football. If you
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get to the final two games and you say to yourself,
we're in even if we lose our last two we're in.
It doesn't matter all. We play in the final game
of the year. And you don't want to you don't
want to jeopardize trying. You're saying, I want to win
a championship. I don't think anybody would be mad at
Jim Harball if he protected his players in a meaningless
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game and said it's okay, we'll just play and if
it's about getting into the tournament, that's what I'm and
that could happen. That's all. What that would do is
postpone a big game. There would still be big games
down there. I don't think that will happen. I don't
want that to happen, obviously, but I think all that
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would do would say, Okay, the big game isn't Ohio
State Michigan this week. In two weeks, it's Michigan Penn
State in the first round of the playoff. That would
be a huge game. So you still would get big games.
And like I said, in baseball, I mean, rob they've
really expanded the baseball player. Do you not like it? No?
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I mean that's a prime example, and that regular season,
because they play so many games that more than any
other regular season is like, man, do I really need
to watch this game on Tuesday night in July? But
it still is what it is. Are great. I don't
like it from the from the college football standpoint because
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I just the history so far, Chris. It might turn around,
it might change, but the history of the college football
playoffs are a lot of lopsided games. I don't have
the numbers in front of me, but I know the
rob a lot of there've been more blow outside. But
that's just I mean, that's not a format issue. Let's
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say the fact that one or two teams have been
dominant old on a second, because I know Rob G
looked it up because we had something from here. I mean, no,
we did it, We talked about it before. Sixteen games
in the playoffs so far, only three of them have
been decided by less than ten points. Average margin of
victory across the sixteen games is nineteen point points per game. Right,
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But again, that's not a format issue. That's a college
football issue. Regardless of the format. You've had a couple
of dominant teams. So even if you still have a
couple bull of dominant teams, you're still going to have
some good competitive games through those buy those twelve teams
that are in the playoff. It might not be the
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two best ones best teams, but some of those games
will be competitive and they'll be meaningful, all right, eight
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seven ninety nine on Fox aight seven seven nine nine
six sixty three sixty nine. I love the twelve team
expansion in college football playoffs. Rob hates it. Thinks of
the ruined games like Ohio State Michigan, which is Saturday.
What are your thoughts? All right, let's kick it off, Chris.
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We got a couple of people want to chime in
Clint in Oklahoma City. You're on the odd couple of
Fox Sports Radio. What of Clint? How are you all
doingat How are you? I'm doing well, doing well. I
was just calling about the expansion of the twelve to
the twelve teams, and one thing y'all didn't touch on
was how expanding the twelve teams can create more parody
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in recruiting because before, with the same four teams hitting
in every year, they kind of monopolized the recruit because
they get to kind of say that they're the only
ones that matter because they're the only ones getting in
the playoffs. And when you expand the twelve team, you
get it. Now it's it's possible. I think that in
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the new name image likeness rules, Rob could I mean,
we'll see it. May may not, but it's certainly a possibility. Yeah.
I've always wondered, Rob, why if I'm like the best
running back in the country and I get it, I'm confident,
but Alabama's got the best running backs from the last
two previous years. Why wouldn't I go somewhere else? Because
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you always wanted to play at Alabama or you want
to be on a national championship team. I know what
you're saying. You know it makes sense, but you go
to house state and start right, But it doesn't always
work like that. Maybe you're from you know, Alabama, you're
always dreamed of it, and you know there's a lot
of that Thomas in the Bay Area. You're on the
odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. What up, Thomas? Hey,
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what's going on? Fellas? Thanks for taking my call. Yes,
I just want to say, when you look at the
top four and you look at the next four, the LSUS,
the Alabama's, the Clemsons, the USCS, they can give TCU
in Michigan Ohio State to run for their money. I
believe so. Yeah, I mean the Big ten hasn't the
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Big ten hasn't been able to hang his you know,
in the last ten years. Right. But with the n
IL deal, you could probably get more kids going to
other schools because, like you said, they don't have to
sit behind two or three starters. They can get paid
and start right away at these other top schools too. Yeah,
but what about the four rob g justus gave out
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the numbers on how bad and lopsided these games have been.
When you had just the top four schools. That's that's
the concern for me, right, And it's a trickle down effect.
I remember one year Notre Dame got waxed by Alabama
and people were saying, oh, Oregon should have been in
there that year, and that's why they expanded it. Well,
now why not expand a little more and get nationwide
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attention instead of just these two SEC schools, a big
ten in a big twelve. Because this if you had
Alabama at number seven against say Michigan at three, I mean,
you can't tell me Alabama, right, don't have a shot
like that's gonna be a big game and a good game.
So it might be that might get blowed out. You
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never know, Thanks Thomas, appreciate it. They might get blowed out.
Who Michigan, Uh? Alabama? I mean the big team. You
think the Big King got two of the best three
teams in the country. We'll see, you know, they never
do well in the vote in the postseason. Let's go
to Keith in Alabama. You're on the odd couple of
Fox Sports Radio. What up, Keith? Hey, how are you
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guys doing? I kind of wanted to piggyback on what
Clint said and Chris actually responded a little bit with
my point with the name, image and likeness and with
the transfer portal. If you don't expand the college playoff now,
I think you're gonna funnel those competitive running backs that
went to uh, you know, Georgia Tech instead of Georgia
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By their second or third year, you're gonna funnel them
in to the only four teams that keep getting into
the playoffs. But if you start now and expand the playoff,
you'll expand where all of this talent goes through recruiting,
but also through the transfer portal. So Keith, if the
games aren't competitive, what would be like? They haven't been
competitive to this point. I don't know what would change
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by adding more teams in. But do you care whether
the games are competitive or not? I know I'm in Alabama,
but I didn't grow up around here, and I'm not
loyal to any one particular team. I don't think that
college football is that competitive from top to bottom anyway. Okay, right,
that's the good thing. But I do think that if
you spread out the opportunity, you will eventually spread out
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the talent and it'll be more competitive. I mean, look
at look how it is now. Just with the transfer portal,
you guys are talking about the top ten could all
play each other and some of those games for coin
flips with three or four rankings in between them, right, age,
appreciate that. Can we squeeze in Marcus, Oklahoma City? You're
in the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. What up, Marcus? Hey,
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how's it going? Thanks for taking my call, guys, appreciate you.
I just wanted to go on what Rob said. He said,
you know, with what we've seen in the four team playoffs,
there have been blowouts, but what about what we haven't seen?
You know, the Scott Frost team was the Central Florida
not getting a chance to being a smaller school not
to participate in it. Also, in addition to that, I
think even a better example, I'm from Oklahoma watching OU
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play in the Big twelve the TCU team twenty fourteen,
when you know twelve and one played Old Miss and
beat them forty two to three at the end of
the year in a bowl game. And the same year
that Old Miss beat Alabama be an A and N
team that was good that year. So the things that
we haven't seen, you know, team playoffs will expand on
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that and maybe we'll get to see some of those
teams that haven't got a shot to get to play.
Even if some of them are blowouts, It'll just give
them more opportunity. I'll did Cincinnati. We saw we saw
Cincinnati get a shot the small school, so I'm not
buying that. And they got blowed out Cincinnati. Everybody wants
that game started with life. They didn't belong. Why was
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the college football problem? Regardless of the structure. I think
this structure gives it a better chance of some competitive
postseason games. But all right, we are carry Rows will
not be able to join us. He'll join Rob on Friday.
What do you mean Rob, like I'm working by myself?
Is that it robbing Martin? Right Martin? No? No, Martin's
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Allen Lee. Yeah. Uh So we will get to Aaron
Rodgers Rob the broken thumb. Maybe that's an explanation for
what has gone on this year with him. We'll get
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They said, you'll be doing it with Martin Weiss tomorrow. Uh,
the I a couple of Thanksgiving days. So what is
your dinner? What type of Thanksgiving dinner you're gonna have?
Probably a little turkey, which I'll get from the supermarket.
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They make turkey for a single people who nobody's cooking before,
and I'll have h don't make it sound so sad. No,
it's not sad. It's all good. You know, if I
was around with my family, you know what I mean,
i'd be there. But you'll eat after the show. Yeah,
I'll eat after all, eat after the show. Um, and
then uh sweet potato Chris, Probably a baked sweet potato,
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maybe some college greens and then maybe a little uh
sweet potato pie for dessert. That'll be dinner with mart No,
I'll just have dinner, okay, Yeah, all right? Well are
you cooking? Are you guys at your house for my wife? Yeah,
we're at my house. We got we gotta lot your
wife cooking. How many people cooking? I think it'll be
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eleven told on my wife's cooking. And I want to
shout out my wife, Crystal, doctor Crystal Bruce already's our birthday. Wow,
happy day, sweetheart. Yes, um thirty nine once again? Right right,
well we'll go with that. Yeah, we'll go with that.
Crystal will love me Chris after I say that. Um.
But yeah, so it's my wife and my two daughters
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are here now you know, my parents live with me exactly,
so that's beautiful to be able to share Thanksgiving with them.
It is. And my brother and his wife and two
daughters are coming. Oh wow, so y'all both have two daughters?
No boys? Huh yeah yeahs family name and jeopardy. Well,
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I mean I have a cousin. Yeah, I have a
first cousin who is who's Brusso yeah, so it's not them.
He has his little son. Oh so you're good. But yeah,
yeah we're hanging in because again four granddaughters. Our family
was about to go by the wayside because of me.
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Yeah no, no, no, my no. My my nephew is
a Parker. So my nephew has two boys now, so
it's so good. Yeah wow yeah yeah, so you didn't
have children obviously, but your brother has a son. Yes, okay,
the one you went to do by with, yes, dub,
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So yeah, there it is. But but you know what
I mean, Like sometimes in the family you think about that.
And that's why I was thinking in your family because
with four girls, no boys, you know that name, I
know the Bussard name from your bloodlines. You know what,
you got a cousin with a boy, so that then
you go, you're good. Yeah, my father told me and
my brother how to make boys because he had two boys. Right,
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and what happened right the right It didn't work, but
was only that easy did lead to the right right,
all right, right, quickly, we don't have to be too
long on this Aaron Rodgers thing, but do you I mean,
I'm gonna be honest because I said earlier in the
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week Monday, I guess right that he was no longer
elite or no. They played Thursday, right Thursday, so I
said Friday he was no longer elite. Obviously hasn't had
a great year, and let's just keep it real. He wasn't.
His play has been consistently mediocre all year before the
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broken thumb, after the broken thumb. But I will be honest, Um,
I can't sit here and act like this. The thumb
may not be a big factor. Um, I don't know
that I don't want to make any excuse, but it
certainly could be an explanation. And so it does change
a little bit the way I feel. We knew he
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had a thumb injury, he hadn't disclosed it it was
broken until yesterday. But I will admit Rob that that
might be a legit amit reason for him struggling at
least over the last several weeks. And and maybe he'll
come back if he's healthy next year, it might be
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a different story for it. Yeah, I think that that's
fair only from this damnpoint. The one thing that he
always had, Chris, was the accuracy, and his accuracy has
been off. You got to that, and I think that's
the part where you look and now it makes sense.
That's why I brought up was it Mike Keller from Wisconsin? Yes,
Mike Keller when he when he talked about it, and
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you know, it wasn't public public knowledge, but obviously there
was something that he knew a little bit right and
said about he didn't think he was a lad anymore, right,
But but I'm just saying, I'm just talking about that.
He brought that up, the thumb, and it makes sense
because I saw him miss some throws. That a shock
he's missing. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, that's shocking for him. Yeah,
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So I think that that is uh. I think if
you you know, discount that, there's no way you can
totally disc doesn't mean no, I mean to be I'm
gonna be honest Robe. He deserves and look, he's gonna
be thirty nine in a week or two, a couple
of weeks, so he might very well be just on
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the backside of his career, right, not as good. But
I do think in fairness, he's been so great that
he deserves kind of the benefit of the doubt just
because he had what he's been. He's been one of
the best we've ever seen. And it's definitely possible as
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Greg Jenny said that the thumb is a big part
of the reason he struggled. Yeah, and so I think
it just makes sense and puts in the perspective like
why he's been so off, That's all it does. I mean, right,
we don't know that full answer. It might be age,
it might be the thumb, it might be the receivers
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to some degree, but you know, we'll see, Rob. Did
you see he also brought up retirement that he don't
know if you'll retire after this season or after three seasons.
I don't think he needs to be talking about it
right now. Yeah, but I just think when you when
it's such a blanket of at the end of this
year or three years, and basically he didn't say anything,
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you know what, I'm like, no, no, but I don't
even know why you say it period, you know what
I mean? Just Hey, my contract's got three years left
on this. Oh, we'll see you know. But all right,
it is the Eye couple, Chris and Rob. Pat Bev
is at it. Rob. The enforcer role is not dead.
We'll get into that. And it's this the NHL on
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the NBA, And that's all I want to know. You
covered the NBA when it was the NHL. It's still around,
Pat Bev bringing it back. All right, it's the eye couple,
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of our three hour show. Did you see Patrick Beverley
last night? Yes, shoved DeAndre Ayton in the back after
Aighton fouled Austin Reid and actually Devin Booker I believe
fouled him and Aton stood over Reeves and then Patrick
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Beverley didn't like that, Patrick ewing, that was yeah, that
was That was a little love scene. And I don't
matter I did anything happen. It was just part of
the game, right, But that was a ferocious dunk. And
then he made it worse by just stepping on you
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pretty much. Um. But Patrick Beverley was ejected, and rightly
so in my opinion, and I think he will be
suspended and should be for a game rob Um. Ok, yeah,
I mean somebody was asking earlier three or four game
like nothing for that. He didn't swing on the guy.
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I mean, you getdn't like a push, but he didn't
swing on him. I don't like it. He went too far,
because rob when someone's you know, not in their back,
his turns you and they are not expecting it. They're
not bracing for a push or anything that can hurt somebody.
We saw nicolea Yoaks. I mean he rammed into Mark
Keith Morris. I think it was last year and Morris
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was out for a while. Obviously yokes a lot bigger
than Beverly. But hope thankfully Aton didn't get hurt. I
remember last year Patrick Beverley in the playoffs or two
years ago pushed well, I don't know if it was
two years ago. Last year when he pushed Chris Paul
in the back during the time out and Devin Booker
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I thought hit it on the head when he said
Pat Babs got to stop pushing people in the back,
push him in the chest or something like you know
what I mean, like, why are you always pushing them
in the back, Because little guys. That's what they do
in a situation of you're going after somebody bigger. So
he's not swinging on the gaul. Was his eye? I
saw that one too, pushing the back. Yeah, but you
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know what, Chris, Yeah, probably be like you said, one
game suspension. But this is who he is. He's been
doing this his whole career. Like it's not out of character.
This is who he is out at all. And I'm
not saying that justifies anything, but this is he's always
had a chip on his shoulder. He's had to fight
and claw his way to make an NBA career. Why
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there you go, there, there you go. That's so so
you're not overly like, oh my god, I can't believe
that Pat Bev did that. No, right, no, And look
like I said, he was ejected. Rightly, he should be suspended.
But there is a level and he took it too far,
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but there's a level on which you like it in
that you're standing up for a teammate. And he said,
I'm a foxhole guy. I wouldn't say I don't love
what he did. I don't hate it either, thankfully, Like
I said, Ayton wasn't hurt and he stood up for
a teammate, you know, And it's fine. I mean, I
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get it right, years ago this wouldn't have been anything,
and not that we want to go back to when
there were literal fights on the floor. But I'm just saying, um,
you know, I don't I'm not like appalled at what
Patrick Beverley did, Like you said, three to four games
sounds written that would be ridiculous if he if he
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came up and punched him Chris from behind to the face.
We're talking about something else, right, right, I mean, it's
just like I think people get carried away, like remember
Draymond made an interesting point during the finals, rob or
it might have I think it was a playoff. I
don't know if it's a playoffs or the finals, but
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he did say there wasn't a situation where he had
like stood over an opponent and nobody from the other
team kind of came and gotten his face or pushed
him away or yo, you can't be you know what
I mean, right, And he Draymond said that was a
turning point. I don't remember if it was Memphis or
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if it was actually the finals with Boston. And remember
he stood over Jalen Brown, Rob G, do you remember that.
I think he stood over Jalen Brown. Jalen talked about
Jalen tried to pull down his shorts or something right,
and I think he said when nobody's you know, kind
of came and checked me. That was a turning point
in the series. And so there's a mental game at work, Rob, No,
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there's no doubt about it. And I think that you
gotta have that and being tough, Chris, you know that
basketball is about that. You could intimidate other guys. They
could be talented, but if you intimidate them, you could
change the game. We've seen it all the time, and
that's what to your point, Like Pat Bev has a
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value in this league. Obviously he's getting older, his skills
are diminishing, but never the most skilled guy in the
first place. But he's a hound, he's a pest and
if he can get the opponent thinking about him, worried
about him, bothered by him, that's what he wants to do.
And he's that guy, Chris the classic. He's the guy
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that if he's on your team, you love him, and
when he's not on your team, you hate his gun.
And he probably even gets on your nerves, a little
bit on your type, but still, but you're right in
the game when he's getting in the hand of the opponent.
You like that. You know, Um, the history ontics are
a little over the top, but that's okay. Um, Look,
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suspend him for a game. Let him know that can't
be done. He knows that. He even said after the game.
But move on. Let's not act like you know it
was the malice in the palace, that was not that?
My god? Right, all right? Next hour, Rob, we got
a special edition of Tischert's Tower of Trips because I
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I can't wait for that, and I know neither can
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Oh definitely, yeah, and that's at the bottom of the hour,
so you definitely want to keep it locked for that.
But for now, we're gonna go to some college football
because Rob, huge game. Huge game this weekend. Can't wait
to watch it. Ohio State and Michigan. I mean, and Rob,
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it's always a big game, right, always a huge game.
But this year, Man, both teams undefeated, Ohio State ranked
number two, Michigan ranked number three, and whoever loses is
going to likely almost certainly be out of the college
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football Playoff as far as the top four that qualified.
So this is all the marbles, and it was an
interesting story written in sports illustrated by Michael Rosenberg. Yeah,
he wrote at the Free Press. I know Mike very well,
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and he wrote Rob that the twelve team expansion which
will kick in as soon as twenty twenty four. When
that happens, it'll be a bad thing because this game
between Ohio State and Michigan, for instance, which Saturday, means everything, right,
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I mean, in addition to the great rivalry, in addition
to the Big Ten title, which you know teams have
conference championship games too, but in addition to the VIC
ten title, and it also of course has going to
the College Football Playoff on the line. Of course, once
that expands the twelve teams. In a situation like this,
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both of the teams would still know that they're likely
to make the playoff or almost or going to make
the playoff, so it takes a little bit away from
the game, and he thinks it would take a ton
away from the game, and that's one reason he doesn't
want to see or he's not happy about the twelve
team playoff. Where are you add on this? I know
you didn't really like it. I totally agree with him,
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because if this new a format was in place, Chris,
this game wouldn't matter. They would both be going no
matter what, and that's not what you don't want to have.
I think Mike could spot on on this that as
time goes on and so many teams getting involved, it
will take away from these kind of matchups where you
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know one team has a chance to advance and the
other team is out, and so they could play this
game and not even care about it, arrest people and like, oh,
we're gonna make it anyway, like we're gonna be in
the playoff. Why should we waste our better players or
put our guys out there in a game that doesn't matter.
Can you imagine? I think that's whenever you open up
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a playoff where too many people. You know, what we've
seen in the NBA now with the playing and whatnot,
it's not about Chris. It's not about getting the for
the top seed anymore. Where it's just about, okay, let's
get to the playoffs. Who want to get in, We'll
take some days off. It's okay. You know the other night.
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The other night the Warriors rested like four starters and
all that. You know, like those are the kind of
things you start to look at it and go because
they know that it doesn't matter. It's about getting in
the playoffs and being healthy. And that could happen in
college football, and that's the part that is disappointing if
it does happen. I completely disagree. I mean, you know this, right,
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you worked in Michigan. You think there's gonna be a
day Ohio State Michigan doesn't matter. That game is always
going to matter. It is a rivalry of the highest order,
regardless of whether or not it's for that. Obviously, it
means more if it's for the national championship or a
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right to play for the national championship. But this game
will always mean something. Coaches have been fired with great
records because they couldn't beat the rival next door, and
so this game will always matter. And now I agree,
it's just undeniable that the regular season will be a
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bit watered down a bit, it will still be great,
It'll still be exciting. And college football is full of
great rivalries. We got Alabama Auburn coming up obviously a right,
like you're gonna have tons of rivalries in the SEC
and these other great conferences. That's not going away. It
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just won't be sudden death. It won't be do or die.
It won't be if you lose, your season's over. Still
will be a big deal. And here's what I say,
Rob because you and I have talked about it before
when we grew up, and it was a mythical national champion, right,
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they didn't have a championship game. They had what about
six major bowls, six or seven major bowls played on
New Year's Day, And when you will watch all of them,
and the top teams will be in all of them,
and it would literally be like how bad did you
beat the other team by? That could make you the
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national champion? Like it was just you know you're gonna
watch it, and whoever wins most impressively as far as
beating a high ranking team could move up big time
in the polls. And now rob Let's face it, none
of these bowl games matter. The only postseason college football
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games that matter are the playoff games, the final four,
and then the championship period. I don't care about any
of the other ones, and I don't think most people,
you know, I mean, obviously you got some college football
guys that just watch everything, but most fans only look
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at the championship. And so what I'm saying is expanding
to twelve teams, now, all of those games are going
to matter. That first round playoff game with the top
twelve teams, those six games or however they do it.
But if it's six, or if it's four, you know,
because teams get buys, whatever, it's gonna matter. Then the
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next round is gonna matter. And then you know, you
get to all the way through the championship. I think
it's gonna be great. It's gonna be a playoff. Totally
disagree with you, because when they have four teams now,
most of the games of blowouts, they're not even they're
not even competitive. I think some years, but some who
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did Michigan play last year, Alabama's seventh in the country
this year, Michigananson's Michigan last year, Chris Work, They he
didn't even belong on the field. I can't remember rob
who play. That's not the that's so are we supposed
to do? No, but we've seen plenty of lopsided games
with four teams. Not you're gonna put twelve teams and
maybe another eighth that really don't belong there doesn't mean
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that Abama, it doesn't mean they're gonna they would give
a team a good game. Tennessee's number ten. They were
number one a few weeks ago. Like, I mean, you
don't know TCU who would everything? No, No, I'm talking
about from always verse, what we've seen from so you
think there's only two good teams in the country. But
all I know is from what we've seen in the
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past in the four teams, there's been a lot of
lopsided in blowouts. And that's all I'm worried about is
that those games won't matter. And maybe, Chris, you might
be right, maybe they are exciting. But if they're what
we've got a sample of and they're bad, it's going
to be interesting to see how people feel about them
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and whether or not people are like, oh, I'll wait
till the final four because they're not This is not
that good or not that compelling because they let a
number twelve team that really doesn't belong in the college
playoff and they got rolled by forty. That's all I'm saying.
Oh what, Look, I think that will happen sometimes. Um,
but then there'll be got times when they're closed games.
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Then there'll be times where there's upsets. I mean that's
just the state of college football. And no matter what,
you run that risk, you know. I mean, maybe they
somehow it's got to get more balanced out, maybe nil
doesn't whatever, But I'm just saying, like that risk is
always there. Well, all I know is this, Rob. The
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bowl games to me are to you? Are the ball
games relevant other than the final four? It did you?
I mean really no, because they made them irrelevant. Went
to college football playoffs, so they made it so they're
going to make But I'm talking about more relevant games. No,
But I'm talking about the Michigan ohiuse that. You said, Well,
it'll be it'll always be relevant, always matter. Not if
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Jim Harbar decided I'm gonna make it anyway, I'm not
gonna start my quarterback or I'm not gonna start some
of my top players, and I don't care if we
win or not, because I'm trying to win a national championship.
Beating Ohio status in the top twelve, beating ohiuse state
doesn't matter. They're still gonna I'm saying, if you they're
two and three, they're gonna make it, whether they lose
that game or not. When you got twelve teams coming in,
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I don't We don't see that in the NFL for
the most part. I mean, teams play every weekend. The NBA.
You brought that up. The NBA. The playoffs aren't one
did that. It was the low management that individuals, coaches,
Popovich and individual players started to do. Yeah, but I'm
talking about what ruined that. I'm talking about now twenty
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of the thirty teams make it. I'm just saying it.
It's it took off some of these than when it
just had the pendant when there's the winner of the
American League versus the winner of the National I get that.
I get that it evolved, but you don't want to
make it where people feel like the regular season doesn't matter.
And you could do that in college football. If you
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get to the final two games and you say to yourself,
we're in even if we lose our last two we're in.
It doesn't matter all. We play in the final game
of the year. And you don't want to you don't
want to jeopardize trying. You're saying, I want to win
a championship. I don't think anybody would be mad at
Jim Harball if he protected his players in a meaningless
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game and said it's okay, we'll just play and if
it's about getting into the tournament, that's what I'm and
that could happen. That's all. What that would do is
postpone a big game. There would still be big games
down there. I don't think that will happen. I don't
want that to happen, obviously, but I think all that
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would do would say, Okay, the big game isn't Ohio
State Michigan this week. In two weeks, it's Michigan Penn
State in the first round of the playoff. That would
be a huge game. So you still would get big games.
And like I said, in baseball, I mean, rob they've
really expanded the baseball player. Do you not like it? No?
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I mean that's a prime example, and that regular season,
because they play so many games that more than any
other regular season is like, man, do I really need
to watch this game on Tuesday night in July? But
it still is what it is. Are great. I don't
like it from the from the college football standpoint because
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I just the history so far, Chris. It might turn around,
it might change, but the history of the college football
playoffs are a lot of lopsided games. I don't have
the numbers in front of me, but I know the
rob a lot of there've been more blow outside. But
that's just I mean, that's not a format issue. Let's
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say the fact that one or two teams have been
dominant old on a second, because I know Rob G
looked it up because we had something from here. I mean, no,
we did it, We talked about it before. Sixteen games
in the playoffs so far, only three of them have
been decided by less than ten points. Average margin of
victory across the sixteen games is nineteen point points per game. Right,
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But again, that's not a format issue. That's a college
football issue. Regardless of the format. You've had a couple
of dominant teams. So even if you still have a
couple bull of dominant teams, you're still going to have
some good competitive games through those buy those twelve teams
that are in the playoff. It might not be the
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two best ones best teams, but some of those games
will be competitive and they'll be meaningful, all right, eight
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seven ninety nine on Fox aight seven seven nine nine
six sixty three sixty nine. I love the twelve team
expansion in college football playoffs. Rob hates it. Thinks of
the ruined games like Ohio State Michigan, which is Saturday.
What are your thoughts? All right, let's kick it off, Chris.
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We got a couple of people want to chime in
Clint in Oklahoma City. You're on the odd couple of
Fox Sports Radio. What of Clint? How are you all
doingat How are you? I'm doing well, doing well. I
was just calling about the expansion of the twelve to
the twelve teams, and one thing y'all didn't touch on
was how expanding the twelve teams can create more parody
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in recruiting because before, with the same four teams hitting
in every year, they kind of monopolized the recruit because
they get to kind of say that they're the only
ones that matter because they're the only ones getting in
the playoffs. And when you expand the twelve team, you
get it. Now it's it's possible. I think that in
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the new name image likeness rules, Rob could I mean,
we'll see it. May may not, but it's certainly a possibility. Yeah.
I've always wondered, Rob, why if I'm like the best
running back in the country and I get it, I'm confident,
but Alabama's got the best running backs from the last
two previous years. Why wouldn't I go somewhere else? Because
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you always wanted to play at Alabama or you want
to be on a national championship team. I know what
you're saying. You know it makes sense, but you go
to house state and start right, But it doesn't always
work like that. Maybe you're from you know, Alabama, you're
always dreamed of it, and you know there's a lot
of that Thomas in the Bay Area. You're on the
odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. What up, Thomas? Hey,
(17:49):
what's going on? Fellas? Thanks for taking my call. Yes,
I just want to say, when you look at the
top four and you look at the next four, the LSUS,
the Alabama's, the Clemsons, the USCS, they can give TCU
in Michigan Ohio State to run for their money. I
believe so. Yeah, I mean the Big ten hasn't the
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Big ten hasn't been able to hang his you know,
in the last ten years. Right. But with the n
IL deal, you could probably get more kids going to
other schools because, like you said, they don't have to
sit behind two or three starters. They can get paid
and start right away at these other top schools too. Yeah,
but what about the four rob g justus gave out
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the numbers on how bad and lopsided these games have been.
When you had just the top four schools. That's that's
the concern for me, right, And it's a trickle down effect.
I remember one year Notre Dame got waxed by Alabama
and people were saying, oh, Oregon should have been in
there that year, and that's why they expanded it. Well,
now why not expand a little more and get nationwide
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attention instead of just these two SEC schools, a big
ten in a big twelve. Because this if you had
Alabama at number seven against say Michigan at three, I mean,
you can't tell me Alabama, right, don't have a shot
like that's gonna be a big game and a good game.
So it might be that might get blowed out. You
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never know, Thanks Thomas, appreciate it. They might get blowed out.
Who Michigan, Uh? Alabama? I mean the big team. You
think the Big King got two of the best three
teams in the country. We'll see, you know, they never
do well in the vote in the postseason. Let's go
to Keith in Alabama. You're on the odd couple of
Fox Sports Radio. What up, Keith? Hey, how are you
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guys doing? I kind of wanted to piggyback on what
Clint said and Chris actually responded a little bit with
my point with the name, image and likeness and with
the transfer portal. If you don't expand the college playoff now,
I think you're gonna funnel those competitive running backs that
went to uh, you know, Georgia Tech instead of Georgia
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By their second or third year, you're gonna funnel them
in to the only four teams that keep getting into
the playoffs. But if you start now and expand the playoff,
you'll expand where all of this talent goes through recruiting,
but also through the transfer portal. So Keith, if the
games aren't competitive, what would be like? They haven't been
competitive to this point. I don't know what would change
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by adding more teams in. But do you care whether
the games are competitive or not? I know I'm in Alabama,
but I didn't grow up around here, and I'm not
loyal to any one particular team. I don't think that
college football is that competitive from top to bottom anyway. Okay, right,
that's the good thing. But I do think that if
you spread out the opportunity, you will eventually spread out
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the talent and it'll be more competitive. I mean, look
at look how it is now. Just with the transfer portal,
you guys are talking about the top ten could all
play each other and some of those games for coin
flips with three or four rankings in between them, right, age,
appreciate that. Can we squeeze in Marcus, Oklahoma City? You're
in the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. What up, Marcus? Hey,
(21:06):
how's it going? Thanks for taking my call, guys, appreciate you.
I just wanted to go on what Rob said. He said,
you know, with what we've seen in the four team playoffs,
there have been blowouts, but what about what we haven't seen?
You know, the Scott Frost team was the Central Florida
not getting a chance to being a smaller school not
to participate in it. Also, in addition to that, I
think even a better example, I'm from Oklahoma watching OU
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play in the Big twelve the TCU team twenty fourteen,
when you know twelve and one played Old Miss and
beat them forty two to three at the end of
the year in a bowl game. And the same year
that Old Miss beat Alabama be an A and N
team that was good that year. So the things that
we haven't seen, you know, team playoffs will expand on
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that and maybe we'll get to see some of those
teams that haven't got a shot to get to play.
Even if some of them are blowouts, It'll just give
them more opportunity. I'll did Cincinnati. We saw we saw
Cincinnati get a shot the small school, so I'm not
buying that. And they got blowed out Cincinnati. Everybody wants
that game started with life. They didn't belong. Why was
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the college football problem? Regardless of the structure. I think
this structure gives it a better chance of some competitive
postseason games. But all right, we are carry Rows will
not be able to join us. He'll join Rob on Friday.
What do you mean Rob, like I'm working by myself?
Is that it robbing Martin? Right Martin? No? No, Martin's
(22:32):
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They said, you'll be doing it with Martin Weiss tomorrow. Uh,
the I a couple of Thanksgiving days. So what is
your dinner? What type of Thanksgiving dinner you're gonna have?
Probably a little turkey, which I'll get from the supermarket.
(23:15):
They make turkey for a single people who nobody's cooking before,
and I'll have h don't make it sound so sad. No,
it's not sad. It's all good. You know, if I
was around with my family, you know what I mean,
i'd be there. But you'll eat after the show. Yeah,
I'll eat after all, eat after the show. Um, and
then uh sweet potato Chris, Probably a baked sweet potato,
(23:37):
maybe some college greens and then maybe a little uh
sweet potato pie for dessert. That'll be dinner with mart No,
I'll just have dinner, okay, Yeah, all right? Well are
you cooking? Are you guys at your house for my wife? Yeah,
we're at my house. We got we gotta lot your
wife cooking. How many people cooking? I think it'll be
(23:59):
eleven told on my wife's cooking. And I want to
shout out my wife, Crystal, doctor Crystal Bruce already's our birthday. Wow,
happy day, sweetheart. Yes, um thirty nine once again? Right right,
well we'll go with that. Yeah, we'll go with that.
Crystal will love me Chris after I say that. Um.
But yeah, so it's my wife and my two daughters
(24:21):
are here now you know, my parents live with me exactly,
so that's beautiful to be able to share Thanksgiving with them.
It is. And my brother and his wife and two
daughters are coming. Oh wow, so y'all both have two daughters?
No boys? Huh yeah yeahs family name and jeopardy. Well,
(24:42):
I mean I have a cousin. Yeah, I have a
first cousin who is who's Brusso yeah, so it's not them.
He has his little son. Oh so you're good. But yeah,
yeah we're hanging in because again four granddaughters. Our family
was about to go by the wayside because of me.
(25:03):
Yeah no, no, no, my no. My my nephew is
a Parker. So my nephew has two boys now, so
it's so good. Yeah wow yeah yeah, so you didn't
have children obviously, but your brother has a son. Yes, okay,
the one you went to do by with, yes, dub,
(25:23):
So yeah, there it is. But but you know what
I mean, Like sometimes in the family you think about that.
And that's why I was thinking in your family because
with four girls, no boys, you know that name, I
know the Bussard name from your bloodlines. You know what,
you got a cousin with a boy, so that then
you go, you're good. Yeah, my father told me and
my brother how to make boys because he had two boys. Right,
(25:44):
and what happened right the right It didn't work, but
was only that easy did lead to the right right,
all right, right, quickly, we don't have to be too
long on this Aaron Rodgers thing, but do you I mean,
I'm gonna be honest because I said earlier in the
(26:06):
week Monday, I guess right that he was no longer
elite or no. They played Thursday, right Thursday, so I
said Friday he was no longer elite. Obviously hasn't had
a great year, and let's just keep it real. He wasn't.
His play has been consistently mediocre all year before the
(26:27):
broken thumb, after the broken thumb. But I will be honest, Um,
I can't sit here and act like this. The thumb
may not be a big factor. Um, I don't know
that I don't want to make any excuse, but it
certainly could be an explanation. And so it does change
a little bit the way I feel. We knew he
(26:49):
had a thumb injury, he hadn't disclosed it it was
broken until yesterday. But I will admit Rob that that
might be a legit amit reason for him struggling at
least over the last several weeks. And and maybe he'll
come back if he's healthy next year, it might be
(27:09):
a different story for it. Yeah, I think that that's
fair only from this damnpoint. The one thing that he
always had, Chris, was the accuracy, and his accuracy has
been off. You got to that, and I think that's
the part where you look and now it makes sense.
That's why I brought up was it Mike Keller from Wisconsin? Yes,
Mike Keller when he when he talked about it, and
(27:31):
you know, it wasn't public public knowledge, but obviously there
was something that he knew a little bit right and
said about he didn't think he was a lad anymore, right,
But but I'm just saying, I'm just talking about that.
He brought that up, the thumb, and it makes sense
because I saw him miss some throws. That a shock
he's missing. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, that's shocking for him. Yeah,
(27:52):
So I think that that is uh. I think if
you you know, discount that, there's no way you can
totally disc doesn't mean no, I mean to be I'm
gonna be honest Robe. He deserves and look, he's gonna
be thirty nine in a week or two, a couple
of weeks, so he might very well be just on
(28:13):
the backside of his career, right, not as good. But
I do think in fairness, he's been so great that
he deserves kind of the benefit of the doubt just
because he had what he's been. He's been one of
the best we've ever seen. And it's definitely possible as
(28:33):
Greg Jenny said that the thumb is a big part
of the reason he struggled. Yeah, and so I think
it just makes sense and puts in the perspective like
why he's been so off, That's all it does. I mean, right,
we don't know that full answer. It might be age,
it might be the thumb, it might be the receivers
(28:54):
to some degree, but you know, we'll see, Rob. Did
you see he also brought up retirement that he don't
know if you'll retire after this season or after three seasons.
I don't think he needs to be talking about it
right now. Yeah, but I just think when you when
it's such a blanket of at the end of this
year or three years, and basically he didn't say anything,
(29:14):
you know what, I'm like, no, no, but I don't
even know why you say it period, you know what
I mean? Just Hey, my contract's got three years left
on this. Oh, we'll see you know. But all right,
it is the Eye couple, Chris and Rob. Pat Bev
is at it. Rob. The enforcer role is not dead.
We'll get into that. And it's this the NHL on
(29:34):
the NBA, And that's all I want to know. You
covered the NBA when it was the NHL. It's still around,
Pat Bev bringing it back. All right, it's the eye couple,
Chris and Rod. We will get into that next. Fox
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couple of Christ and Rob. Wrapping up hour number two
(30:46):
of our three hour show. Did you see Patrick Beverley
last night? Yes, shoved DeAndre Ayton in the back after
Aighton fouled Austin Reid and actually Devin Booker I believe
fouled him and Aton stood over Reeves and then Patrick
(31:06):
Beverley didn't like that, Patrick ewing, that was yeah, that
was That was a little love scene. And I don't
matter I did anything happen. It was just part of
the game, right, But that was a ferocious dunk. And
then he made it worse by just stepping on you
(31:28):
pretty much. Um. But Patrick Beverley was ejected, and rightly
so in my opinion, and I think he will be
suspended and should be for a game rob Um. Ok, yeah,
I mean somebody was asking earlier three or four game
like nothing for that. He didn't swing on the guy.
(31:49):
I mean, you getdn't like a push, but he didn't
swing on him. I don't like it. He went too far,
because rob when someone's you know, not in their back,
his turns you and they are not expecting it. They're
not bracing for a push or anything that can hurt somebody.
We saw nicolea Yoaks. I mean he rammed into Mark
Keith Morris. I think it was last year and Morris
(32:11):
was out for a while. Obviously yokes a lot bigger
than Beverly. But hope thankfully Aton didn't get hurt. I
remember last year Patrick Beverley in the playoffs or two
years ago pushed well, I don't know if it was
two years ago. Last year when he pushed Chris Paul
in the back during the time out and Devin Booker
(32:35):
I thought hit it on the head when he said
Pat Babs got to stop pushing people in the back,
push him in the chest or something like you know
what I mean, like, why are you always pushing them
in the back, Because little guys. That's what they do
in a situation of you're going after somebody bigger. So
he's not swinging on the gaul. Was his eye? I
saw that one too, pushing the back. Yeah, but you
(32:57):
know what, Chris, Yeah, probably be like you said, one
game suspension. But this is who he is. He's been
doing this his whole career. Like it's not out of character.
This is who he is out at all. And I'm
not saying that justifies anything, but this is he's always
had a chip on his shoulder. He's had to fight
and claw his way to make an NBA career. Why
(33:19):
there you go, there, there you go. That's so so
you're not overly like, oh my god, I can't believe
that Pat Bev did that. No, right, no, And look
like I said, he was ejected. Rightly, he should be suspended.
But there is a level and he took it too far,
(33:41):
but there's a level on which you like it in
that you're standing up for a teammate. And he said,
I'm a foxhole guy. I wouldn't say I don't love
what he did. I don't hate it either, thankfully, Like
I said, Ayton wasn't hurt and he stood up for
a teammate, you know, And it's fine. I mean, I
(34:03):
get it right, years ago this wouldn't have been anything,
and not that we want to go back to when
there were literal fights on the floor. But I'm just saying, um,
you know, I don't I'm not like appalled at what
Patrick Beverley did, Like you said, three to four games
sounds written that would be ridiculous if he if he
(34:24):
came up and punched him Chris from behind to the face.
We're talking about something else, right, right, I mean, it's
just like I think people get carried away, like remember
Draymond made an interesting point during the finals, rob or
it might have I think it was a playoff. I
don't know if it's a playoffs or the finals, but
(34:46):
he did say there wasn't a situation where he had
like stood over an opponent and nobody from the other
team kind of came and gotten his face or pushed
him away or yo, you can't be you know what
I mean, right, And he Draymond said that was a
turning point. I don't remember if it was Memphis or
(35:06):
if it was actually the finals with Boston. And remember
he stood over Jalen Brown, Rob G, do you remember that.
I think he stood over Jalen Brown. Jalen talked about
Jalen tried to pull down his shorts or something right,
and I think he said when nobody's you know, kind
of came and checked me. That was a turning point
in the series. And so there's a mental game at work, Rob, No,
(35:29):
there's no doubt about it. And I think that you
gotta have that and being tough, Chris, you know that
basketball is about that. You could intimidate other guys. They
could be talented, but if you intimidate them, you could
change the game. We've seen it all the time, and
that's what to your point, Like Pat Bev has a
(35:51):
value in this league. Obviously he's getting older, his skills
are diminishing, but never the most skilled guy in the
first place. But he's a hound, he's a pest and
if he can get the opponent thinking about him, worried
about him, bothered by him, that's what he wants to do.
And he's that guy, Chris the classic. He's the guy
(36:15):
that if he's on your team, you love him, and
when he's not on your team, you hate his gun.
And he probably even gets on your nerves, a little
bit on your type, but still, but you're right in
the game when he's getting in the hand of the opponent.
You like that. You know, Um, the history ontics are
a little over the top, but that's okay. Um, Look,
(36:38):
suspend him for a game. Let him know that can't
be done. He knows that. He even said after the game.
But move on. Let's not act like you know it
was the malice in the palace, that was not that?
My god? Right, all right? Next hour, Rob, we got
a special edition of Tischert's Tower of Trips because I
(37:01):
won't be here tomorrow on Thursday when it's normally one.
I can't wait for that, and I know neither can
the listeners. So keep it locked the eye couple. When
you got I'm ready to go right Fox Sports Radio,
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