October 23, 2025 • 36 mins
Rob and Kelvin debate whether Chauncey Billups’ involvement in the illegal poker and sports gambling scandals should be enough to get him kicked out of the Pro Basketball Hall of Fame, and tell us if LeBron James’ bad attitude on the sideline during the Los Angeles Lakers season opener had anything to do with his name being linked to the NBA gambling scandal. Plus, SEC Tea podcast host Cierra Clark swings by to talk a little SEC football in this week’s edition of College Kids.
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So a lot to get to here in our number two,
rob G, we got the players involved in this, right,
(01:45):
Rosier and Jones.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
Right.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Okay, so we got those, but I think the bigger
one was Chauncey Billups.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Today, right. I mean that was the.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Current NBA coach who coached the night before's and handcuffs
and the next morning, and the allegations are really bad
about him, rob G.
Speaker 6 (02:06):
Yeah, not just the current NBA coach, because I you know,
some people don't even know he coached the Cheryl Blazers.
They know him as mister big shot NBA champion Detroiteam
Chauncys Pillups Phillips. Chauncey Billups easily the biggest name associated
with all of this stuff. And let's get a quick
refresher course on what's being alleged here involving Chauncey Billups.
(02:28):
Number one, the one that he is listed in by name,
involves an alleged poker scheme where they were rigging games
with shuffle machines X ray glasses of mark cards as
a way to get millions of dollars from what people
they do.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
We'p both shaking our heads, right, I mean.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
It sounds like some Ocean thirteen stuff.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Sounded like a movie script.
Speaker 6 (02:50):
And if you're on Twitter and you saw what these
X ray marked cards things, you're like, it can't be
that easy. Apparently it was. So that's number one. Number
two in this is one that people have inferred and
figured out on their own. In the Terry rose Year indictment,
Billups is not listed by name, but there is a
(03:11):
person described in the indictment that is a former professional
player who played from ninety seven to two thousand and fourteen.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
What would that be right?
Speaker 6 (03:20):
And that he is a current NBA coach, that he
is currently residing in Oregon, and uh, you know, we'll
see who that is at a later.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Exactly what is Jeopardy mustpost say? Who is Shazi Billips?
Speaker 5 (03:36):
Exactly? And y'all clues.
Speaker 6 (03:39):
In that portion of the Terry Roseier allegations, it mentions
a person in Oregon who was relaying information to betters
that his team was tanking, that X, Y and Z
players would not be playing later this week, so if
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you wanted to bet against us, now will be the
time to do it. This was all, of course before
then your reports from a public so this was insider information.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Unbelievable, unbelievable, and I gotta say this, Yeah, that is
just damaging, all of it, and even the bilking of
people with the phony poker games and rigged and all that.
If all of this is true, I don't know how
you come back from this from the standpoint of being
involved in basketball, the way people feel about you despite
(04:35):
what you did on the field, you know what I mean.
And he earned all of that. He was a hell
of a player. I covered all that with the pistols.
He was tremendous. I mean, the MVP of the finals.
They beat Shaq and Kobe and for future Hall of
famers call him alone, Gary Payton. I mean all of that.
And in twenty twenty four, this past a lot, right,
(04:57):
this past year, right, yeah, he was inducted into the
Basketball Hall of Fame in Springfield, Massachusetts. Kelvin, I don't
know how you could do anything. And obviously we say
if convicted, so let's.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Leave that there.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
These are all allegations. No one's saying he's guilty and
should be thrown under the jail any of that.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
But he would have.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
To come out of the Hall of Fame if these
allegations are proved or he's convicted of these allegations. I
don't know if any other way how he could be
involved or how you could honor him in this situation.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
That pains me to say.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
You mentioned that two thousand and three when he got there,
was it two that ten year runner give or take
he had. I was there, like you said, I used
to work at WDFN, this station. There I was, you know,
just getting into my career and.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
I was there a games.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Yeah, I'm going in the game, setting up the you know,
the booth for our radio got the Rod Parker and
Kelvin Washington in the future. You know, I can just
sit there and learn and watch. And I got to
be around the game and the team and dude that
that that run meant so much to me, and he
became one of my all time favorite players, as you mentioned,
because he was great, he made all the big shots.
That team was so fun and me same was real
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because he made big shot without a doubt, and he
meant so much to the City and that team. You
were there, so it paid me when I saw that
this morning anchoring the news my phone and it sees
his face, of all the faces, just didn't feel like
that would be the face you would see.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
No, I'll be honest, you were there. There's nothing.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
You didn't hear anything about chounces except good dude, this that,
and again this is all alleged.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
We don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
We hope not, but as things are right now, to answer,
to go back to the point of the conversation, you
absolutely have to take somebody out the Hall of Fame
because if this were just rigged poker games, as bad
as that is, that's separate from the NBA. That is
why we have federal investigators, criminal investigators, state you know investigators,
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all these different type of investigators and police officers who
can handle that. That is separate from the NBA, especially
considered you know, he's no longer a player, obviously he's
a coach.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
But you could say that's nothing to do with us, because.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
People get pulled over, people have other domestic violence, people
have substance abuse that people have personal live issues.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
I agree to a certain extent, I don't think you
could look at him the same way of cheating people
out of money, knowing that the games were rigged.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
And I know, I.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
Know what I'm saying is, I know, I.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Don't think that's pull you out to pull you out
that could have been kept you from getting in.
Speaker 5 (07:49):
I'm not gonna use that as pull you out. I'm
pulling you out.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
I don't know how I feel good about Chauncey Billups
at all if I know that he was a part
of the mob and the mafia and they had rig games.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
To build people out of money. I'm just being I'm.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
No, no, I get your morale. I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
What I'm saying is the NBA I have to go, like,
where do I draw the line. That's nothing to do
with me, meaning the entity.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
Of the NBA.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
But according to that all right, So uh no, I
don't want to get into hypotheticals, but somebody could do.
But there's something heinous, and because it wasn't done during
because of basketball, you still would be okay with it.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
He should stay.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
What I'm saying is because if he presents a challenge
to where I draw the line, like someone who's in
the Hall of Fame right now, I only like you said,
I only want to use a name player X is
in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
Come to find out.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
He beat his wife pretty bad and had come to
find out does it regularly?
Speaker 5 (08:47):
Do you go and then now pull him out?
Speaker 1 (08:49):
You get what I mean that it becomes a slippery
slope when someone does something criminal and where do you
pull The reason why I would pull I would pull
him out is because this had something to do with
the NBA if this what is alleged actually happened, because
you are telling guys, hey, I ain't playing him to night.
Hey we're tanking. Hey, you might want to put some
money on us. We're gonna look bad tonight. Now, that
(09:09):
directly affects the integrity of the game, the trust of
the gang, just as directing my business and our fans
that I'm pulling you out.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
But there's also but also in contracts as a professional athlete,
there are moral clauses in there that have nothing to
do with basketball. Moral clauses on how That's why I
fire you, on how you on how you hand represent yourself.
Speaker 5 (09:34):
Yes, and I will admire you for that. Rob, I'm
with you.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
I will say in your contract states this you did
X you're fired again, pulling you out of the Hall
of Fame because a very slippery slope.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
If it becomes to me, it's not it's not slippery
slope if you're convicted of this and you look at
where the because it's a big scope and I get it.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
You know there's there's two different charges.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
Here, right Because you're saying saying.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
That you would be cool with Chauncey if he just
built people out of millions of dollars with the mafia.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
You're saying you're cool with that. Interesting not me. I'm
saying no, No, I'm asking you.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
You're not absolutely not cool, But I'm no, I think
he should.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
But you're saying you wouldn't take him out of the
Hall of Fame if it was just that charge, is correct?
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Ken, If I'm Commissioner Washing, I disagree because what I'm saying,
I would be disappointed. I wouldn't book him for events
blah blah blah blah blah. But it becomes a slippery slope.
Rob This person beat his wife, this person was selling dope,
This person frauded people out of money because he was
with Enron, you know what I mean. He was with
Nron and he frauded people. People, somebody killed themselves because
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they lost all their savings, and like, where do I
draw the line when it becomes things that are away
from the game, Because if people.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Draw the line as the behavior where you do not
hold yourself to a certain standard, so you're gonna.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
Go a lot of well, I'm not mad at you.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
I hear that I would pull people out if they're convicted,
like like they couldn't pull O. J. Simpton because he
was acquitted. Whether you agree or not, he was acquitted, Okay.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
Said he was found guilty of the civils. You get
what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
So it becomes But that's why I'm saying, I wouldn't
want to have to become the judge, jury, and the
executioner on every criminal thing that someone's convicted, because I
have thousands of people in my Hall of Fame, which
you picked the league, and every year someone du y
car crash killed somebody.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
This person, I just.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Don't know that.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
I mean you say that, but I don't know if
it's that many people that you're making the case that
they have all these other skeletons and they're still in
the fame. I'm just saying I would have to You
would have to give me some examples, because I'm not
saying that there's nobody and I'm not. I'm talking about
like they're there, Uh just got into the Hall of
(11:56):
Fame or whatever they were in the Hall of Fame.
There were a lot and they do something where they
get arrested. As as an NBA coach, you're you're you
just coached the game the night before, get it? You
get you get arrested.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
Yeah, Lawrence Taylor, you and I both agree.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
You could make a case he's the greatest football not
just defensively period. Brother had a while pass ain't nobody,
ain't no secrets. Something comes up? Now he back out
on the street, Michael Irvin, wild pass. Things happen? Do
I pull him out? Because of the White House? You remember
the White House is something you know he done went
(12:35):
back to the White House.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
Rob Well.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
You know again this is all hypothetical, just using example
to rob Do I then pull them out?
Speaker 5 (12:43):
You get what I'm saying? Like it it becomes difficult.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
I think you have to look at the offense. What's happened. Uh,
if you're convicted of a crime, if you're sent to prison,
I think you have every right if it's he said,
she said, and it's resolved and there's no criminal, you know,
time or whatever, Kelvin, then you have a better argument.
You mean to tell me in handcuffs that Chauncey billups
(13:08):
coach one night and the next night he was in handcuffs,
and now he gets convicted. We're just talking about hypothetical, right,
And you still think that him being in the Hall
of Fame is cool.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
I don't know if that's cool anymore. I'm not cool
and I'm not happy.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
But I don't want to just start a slippery slope
where again I'm now becoming judging every single thing.
Speaker 5 (13:29):
I'd rather that's what That's what you do.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
When you put people in the Hall of Fame, you judge.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
But I've already put them in. You judge them so
but right, But now, Rob, I judge you to get in.
Now I'm judging you. You got in at twenty five,
thirty five forty five. Now I'm judging for the next
thirty five, forty five fifty.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
You know, the whole life.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
Yes, yes, you are yes, you are yes.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Because if somebody, somebody did a somebody did a heinous crime, Kelvin,
you wouldn't have this argument. You wouldn't and I could
give you a horror example, and you wouldn't have this feeling.
You wouldn't be like, oh, well, well we put him
in and I know he just did this and he's
going to jail for for thirty years and it was
(14:10):
really an awful thing that happened, but we already put
him in.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Really really, I'm just I'm because now it's too subjective.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
What's the line you say this? Someone else says that you.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Say this, Well, I say, if you got a duy
and you hit somebody, that should be it becomes too subjective.
What is the line that you would then draw? He
beat his wife? Well, I mean, I guess it's not
a big deal. It was only one time. Well, other
people like, oh that's domestic vit you get what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
This man killed dogs?
Speaker 1 (14:41):
No, well it's just dogs that were he even was
he put in jail and conyess it dogs?
Speaker 4 (14:47):
No, I'm talking about it.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
I'm saying. If I'm saying if I was, that it has.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
To be to me of that ilk like a conviction
that would just say that became.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Allegation and you can become convicted, and there's a li
a lot of things that will become slippery slopes if
you open that can of worms.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
To the other side of that.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
With Chauncey, if it is alleged that he was, you know,
telling people out the games and don't bet. Put the
bet here, don't I'm not playing him. We're taking here
then now I'm pulling you.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Out eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven
seven nine nine six sixty three sixty nine. If the
allegations are true, should Chauncey Billups be removed from the
Hall of Fame. We'll continue that conversation next with you.
This will be interesting to hear from people. I really
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the middle of all this drama. And I think Rob
and I, I think only you and I Rob could
find a way to take what we're discussing, that this
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whole NBA and the gambling and all that, and still
find a way to make it the Eye Couple version
of it, where somehow we made it. I believe Chauncey
billups the two parter. If it's just the running the
poker games and all that and all that bad stuff,
that's criminal, that's for the police and FBI to handle.
I think you stay in the Hall of fame if
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it's player involvement, I'm not playing him and this guy
we're taking that pulls you out of the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 5 (17:55):
You feel he's out either way.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
I just think that there's an integrity thing on both sides,
Like like it's hard to prop up somebody who did
either one of those things, like like the one you're
poo pooing about the mob and ripping off.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
What I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
I'm saying is go to prison. That is not the
that's not the hard understand.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
But but to me that that that is that's awful
to me to do that to somebody and then to prison.
Josh in Texas, You're in the couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
What's up, Josh? Is this seven? Nothing already?
Speaker 5 (18:32):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (18:32):
The vikings on was that the first pass of the game?
Speaker 5 (18:35):
Oh my god, was it?
Speaker 4 (18:38):
No, not the first but.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
It was an interception, uh by the Vikings Okay, go ahead, Gosh, Josh.
Speaker 8 (18:47):
So I would have to say, I think.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Your phone is under I don't know what what Josh,
we can't hear you.
Speaker 9 (19:01):
Okay, ahead, Okay, perfect, Sorry about that.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
I was saying.
Speaker 8 (19:08):
I agree with Kelvin.
Speaker 9 (19:09):
I think that since it's not NBA related, Persave, that
you can keep him in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 8 (19:14):
And if it was Indian related, then I think I
would have no problem with him being removed from the.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Hall of Fame.
Speaker 9 (19:20):
And I'm a kick from Fort Michigan, you know, Charlson
billis is like one of my heroes.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Okay, it sounds like a one O was fine. That's
just fine, all right, appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
Jay in Georgia, you're in the odd couple of Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
What's up, Jake?
Speaker 6 (19:33):
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Speaker 1 (19:33):
Guys?
Speaker 5 (19:34):
How a y'all doing? Yeah?
Speaker 9 (19:37):
First of all towns of businesses of corderline, Hall of
Famer anyway, so it becomes the goes. I don't mean
nobody else missed it, but I think in this instant
you got to kick him out of the Hall of
Fame because he's messing up there. Take of the game, Rob,
Like you said, out of time, you walk in any
MLB club house, he got a big sign to say
no gambling, no bit in this that.
Speaker 8 (20:00):
The third So if he did that, he got no
choice but to go.
Speaker 9 (20:03):
But the problem is you turned on the TV. It
is working for the NBA on ESPN oh presented by
Draft Well both ways.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Hey, that's why at the start of the show, Jay,
I don't know if you heard it, but that's why
I blame the commissioner in the league for making gambling
normalized and where people if you ride up to the
arena there it is right.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
Kelvin it's everywhere.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
It's right there, everywhere the star star Lebron is talking
about draft Kings.
Speaker 5 (20:39):
I mean, it's everywhere.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Sean in Sacramento. You're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio.
What's up, Sean.
Speaker 8 (20:47):
Yeah, I'll go from another brother cousin, kill me and
my brother behind the board, whatever I see real quick, man.
They didn't take oj out the Hall of Fame. They
got a bunch of questionable dudes in the Baseball Hall
of Fame. I just don't think you could put a
guy in to Kelvin's point and then take him out
after the fact, unless it's something extremely glaring, like he
was actually.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Betting on the game.
Speaker 8 (21:08):
And per the investigative reporter on the Dan Patrick Show
this morning, all the allegations s them prior to him
become a coach, becoming a coach for the Portland Trailblazers,
and it really no, no, no.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
No, that's not what's in the rob g Reddit and
and that was right from March twenty three. He was
a coach.
Speaker 8 (21:30):
Okay, okay, But my other point is.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
That that's huge. That's huge.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
That's huge.
Speaker 8 (21:35):
That that is huge.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
That is and that's the difference to me, that's different
than the than the poker game.
Speaker 8 (21:40):
To me, right, And we gotta we gotta figure out
what's what's what and see what actually happens with him.
But if he is charged with something that happens to
the game, I agree with pulling him out. But if
it's just a poker game, and what I think is
happening was he was baiting X players, current players to
join those poker games on behalf of the mob and
raking in millions for them.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
He was using the NBA to build people.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Why don't you guys see that it was the idea
of playing with a former NBA player. He used his
status as a player to get people to play in
these poker games for thousands of thousands.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
Of dollars kelvin so that he could build them.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
He wasn't Chauncey Billups nobody, a regular citizen.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
He used his status and.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
His name to glore unsuspecting people and victims.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
That's why it's heinous, and I'm why that's my thing.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
Though.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
You can't un bee Chauncey Billups no meaning he's Chauncey Billups.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
If he goes and gets a dui.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
That's what the first time, they're gonna say, no, they're
gonna say NBA Hall of Famer killed woman.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
In a dui incident.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
No, us he used his name and the idea that
he played in the league to lore people that that's
that's the part that I don't think.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
I hear you, I hear you. We just disagree, we disagree,
all right.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
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Speaker 5 (23:32):
They swear they know college ball takes the A.
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Are there?
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Take sophomore or graduation worth it? Robin Calvin rug aside,
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Right as college kids here on the Acaba Fox Sports
rados every week talk a little college football. This week
it's the SEC with none other than the host of
the SECT podcast, Sierra Clarks Here, how are you hello?
Speaker 10 (23:58):
Thank you guys for having me.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
Yes, Sierah, how are you.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Let's go good good.
Speaker 6 (24:05):
All right, Sierra's got three very hot takes related mostly
to SEC football, So let's get to it. Take number one.
Let's get started here, Sierra. As you guys know some
big firings around college football, including Florida head coach Billy Napier.
That was a tough scene there for the people in Gainesville,
and Sierra is one of those people who's like, you
know what, guys, let's be honest, pulling the trigger too
(24:27):
early when it comes to firing coaches. Sierra tell us, why, well,
the touch.
Speaker 10 (24:32):
On the point you made about Florida. I do think
that firing was justified. It was a long time coming.
But on the other side of the spectrum I really
met was the James Franklin situation at Penn State when
he was fired. He was there a really long time,
but he just had two really bad games this year
with his quarterback being hurt and losing to Ecla and
(24:53):
losing to Northwestern. But the thing is they mostly fired
him because he could not win the big games. The
only beat Ohio State once during his career. So my
thing is, Okay, you let him go, who are you
going to replace him with? And it's just like a round,
It's a merry go round of misery. That seems what
Auburn has now they can't seem to find the right guy.
So just like, Okay, one bad year isn't the end of.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
The world, Sierra, you are not graduating college?
Speaker 9 (25:20):
Back to school?
Speaker 3 (25:22):
I'm sorry, yeah, that back well, the whole notion that
you could be lousy at your job and you don't
know who else to will who will you hire? That
shouldn't be reason you keep your job. At some point
you need to win. If not, we'll get somebody else.
That's all I mean you. James Franklin was there for years.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
How long was he coach?
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Ten years at Penn State?
Speaker 5 (25:42):
Years?
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Twelve years? I'm sorry I short changed him. He was
there plenty of times. His record was awful, Sierra, and
they had to move on.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
Because he couldn't win the big games.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
Seierra, this is your most sophomore take all the time.
This was the easy one. Listen, I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
If this would have been a bad year, you can't
never lose it beat Michigan or Ohio State. Right, you can't.
You can't always lose it in you can't be one
in twenty one against top ten teams under my watch?
Speaker 5 (26:12):
What are we doing here? Absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
They gave him all the chances, all the resources off too.
I got a two hundred million dollar new place on building.
I needed to have some bigger wins, some college football
wins up in here. It was time to go. He'll
get a great job somewhere else and maybe he can
prove himself.
Speaker 6 (26:26):
Then all right, take number two college kids, Sierra Clark
with the Yon couples.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
Sierra is getting a head handed toward us.
Speaker 6 (26:33):
Yeah, Sierra says, Now, one thing about nil, it's leveling
the playing field here in the SEC. Sierra, explain yourself, Well,
of course you have.
Speaker 10 (26:43):
Your Georgia's and Alabamas that have been dominant over the years,
but now there's more teams in the middle of the
packs that are rising up. I mean, if a team
like Ole Miss beats Oklahoma this week and I think
they're in the College Football Playoff, and then we see
that College Game Day is going to Vanderbilt take on
mis Zoo and all of the program, PEP Strong and
il programs. They recruit from all over the place using
(27:04):
the transfer portal, and it's made those middle of the
pack teams headed.
Speaker 8 (27:08):
Toward the top.
Speaker 10 (27:09):
And it would not shock me if those middle of
the pack teams made the college football playoffs.
Speaker 5 (27:14):
Absolutely, you're graduating, Congrau.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Go ahead, pitch your little tassel to the other side,
Tosha Kapaniir, you're graduating because look, at the end of
the day, you talk about the SEC, but even if
you look at the Big Ten, look at the team
like Indiana out of the blue. Indiana is a powerhouse
right beating any and everybody.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
They look great.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
You talk about old miss and Lane kiffing out there
doing this thing. I mean, the fact of the matter
is these teams are getting good quickly, and with the
transfer portal as well, you're able to reshape and retool quickly.
And now it is becoming you have a chance to
compete where you did in otherwise for some of these
more middling teams in the SEC. So I believe I
agree with you that it's going to be more competitive
(27:57):
ever than ever. And to just sit up there and
dominate for ten to twelve years, I don't see that happening.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
Sierra is sophomore.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Sierra, Okay, they won a couple of games something, it's
the same teams and the only reason why maybe they're
gonna be in a college football playoff because now they
let twelve teams in or they're gonna let twenty in.
So sure, some of these other schools will finally get in,
but it's the same schools.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
Let me see some of these middling schools.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
Let me see Indiana win a national championship, and then
I'll feel different about it.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
Until then, no, I'm not buying it.
Speaker 6 (28:34):
Last one College Kids Sierra Clark Hoach of the have
CCT podcast, sitting in with the couple talking little college football.
Last one, Sierra says Texas A and m at LSU
must win for head coach Brian Kelly. Go Tigers, Sierra
tell us, why.
Speaker 10 (28:52):
Yeah, this is absolutely a must win for Brian Kelly.
He's been there for a few years now, and we
know for some spooky stuff that goes down in Baton Ruge, Louisiana,
especially during the night games. LSU's only lost one night
game since Brian Kelly got there, and that was last
year against Alabama and Stans are just tired of not
being back in the place so they were in twenty
nineteen with Joe Burrow. LSU right now five and two
(29:14):
headed towards almost the bottom half of the SEC. So
this is just a must win game. And Texas A
and M is not an easy team to beat. The
ranked number three in the nation, have a great quarterback
who's mobile and Marcel Reid. So I think that if
LSC loses this game, because you cannot lose at home
in Baton, Ruge is one of the those electric places
to play. If they lose, I think coach Kelly is
going to be on the hot seat.
Speaker 5 (29:35):
If it's all me, then yes, you're graduating. I always
say congratulations.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
He's right on that list of guys who are always
like right there where you kind of feel like you
could even say Franklin. Maybe not to that degree. He's
wonted some big games, but where you always want more.
There's always left to be desired, and I can agree
that if he starts to falter some more of this season,
that you start warming up that seat. I ain't saying
his buns are all the way toasty, but they get
the heat is on a little bit making him twisting
(30:01):
shot and be a little uncomfortable.
Speaker 5 (30:03):
So I agree with you. You graduated.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
Finally you graduated.
Speaker 5 (30:09):
Congratulations, Sier.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
I think you finally nailed one. All right, It's okay,
it was a rough week, but this one you nailed.
Congratulations mazle top.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
How's that?
Speaker 5 (30:20):
Thank you?
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Yeah, that James Franklin went here. She would have hated
to be. She would have hated to be on our
show that day he got fired. We let him have it,
we be.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
We poured barbecue sauce on his back.
Speaker 5 (30:32):
I'm just saying, we let him have it.
Speaker 10 (30:34):
There.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
See our great stuff as always, thank you, Thank you one,
no doubt as always pretty good stuff there, all right.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
See we got a nice job.
Speaker 5 (30:43):
Oh yeah, man, I completely agree.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
Grin.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
It's a good way to get some college football in
as well.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
So we got the all the investigation and the rest
that happened in the NBA, and it had me thinking
about something. We had a conversation about the face of
the NBA, but it was about something else that now
I'm wondering if that's why he may have had a
disposition he did on the bench.
Speaker 5 (31:04):
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Speaker 5 (32:06):
Rob, I want to throw this at you. We were talking.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Yesterday, I believe it was within the last couple of
days about Lebron's disposition during the game on the court
where he's usually Gregarias.
Speaker 5 (32:21):
Even if he's not.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Playing, he's locked in he's coaching, he's high five and teammates.
Speaker 5 (32:26):
You know he is. He's been that same way his
whole career.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
And now that we hear his name is not an
investigation and that he's being investigated, but that you know,
Damon Jones knew that Lebron wasn't gonna play in a
certain game and allegedly spread information about that. I'm wondering now, Rob,
looking back, if Lebron had any inkling, like in the
next twenty four hours this is about to drop.
Speaker 5 (32:50):
No, you don't think so.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
Don't think so. I don't think anybody.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
You don't think he No, I don't nah, I think
I mean, that's obviously your opinion.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
What to connect it.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
No, he's connected that Chauncey Billups was going to be
arrested this morning at UH and UH.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
Terry Rogier he knew that.
Speaker 6 (33:10):
Well.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Terry Rogiers, a lawyer, talked about how they had been
in with back and forth and that they knew they knew.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
That there was an investigation, but they didn't know they
was going to be arrested.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Right because they talked about how it's some similar to
what we talked about, how they made it as if
he was a person adv inenter is not a suspect,
and so that's why he's upset. I feel like to investigate.
I gotta snoop around, right, I gotta ask questions, I
gotta pull you, I gotta make calls. I gotta do this.
I got it.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
But that doesn't mean that he knows when exactly they're
going to arrest somebody. So, yeah, you might know that
this investigation going on. The cops Usually when they do
these things, it's a surprise. They don't announce, oh, yeah, tomorrow,
we're going to Chauncey Billups's house to arrest him. No,
if they wanted to do that, they could have called
Chauncey bills attorney and said, I.
Speaker 5 (33:58):
Didn't say Chauncey, I ain't say nothing.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
What are you saying?
Speaker 5 (34:01):
You're talking about Damon Jones. I'm wondering, Yeah, if Lebron,
but no.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
Damn Jones knew that he was going to get arrested today.
Speaker 5 (34:07):
I'm wondering it.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
So because I'm listening, I'm going back to specifically.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
I think that Lebron James having a frown face was
not about Damon Jones being arrested.
Speaker 5 (34:18):
I'm just this is me, This is this is me wondering.
I'm listening.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
We already talked about it that you know, the initial
reaction Jones, Well, not Damon Jones.
Speaker 5 (34:27):
I don't think he cared.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Not.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
I'm sure their friends, I'm clearly we know that. But
I meant more so.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
I meant more so my name being linked to something
like this, I'm not what.
Speaker 4 (34:35):
Just the idea that Damon Jones, yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Just because he that Damon Jones knew that Lebron was
gonna play. Now Lebron knowing I'm the biggest name in
the whole. You know, I could be the I could
become a thing because of this, I could be.
Speaker 5 (34:48):
What did Lebron know? Did he tell him something?
Speaker 9 (34:50):
Well?
Speaker 5 (34:50):
Why didn't he play that game? And I'm wondering.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
This is me just speculating when I when I yesterday,
I'm like, man, he's being a bad teammate, which is unusual.
Speaker 5 (34:59):
What's going on?
Speaker 4 (35:00):
We've seen him?
Speaker 5 (35:01):
Is he pouting?
Speaker 3 (35:02):
Because for an act like it and all of his
body language, we've seen it before.
Speaker 5 (35:08):
We've seen it. I don't know how many times you
watch games.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Many times he's walked off the court without even wapping
up anybody or or saying.
Speaker 5 (35:16):
When he's sitting on the side of the you know,
not playing.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
That's the first time you ever saw him look like that.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Pout yesterday, absolutely for an entire game, not like a
minute at the game if they were up twenty and
they got blue out or something. That was the first
time I've seen him a whole game be not coaching
up somebody, not in the huddle, not cracking a joke,
not eating peanuts.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
It's also the first season that started in the NBA
where he wasn't the focal point.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
And that was my point yesterday and it was now
I'm wondering, let me have.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
My aluming him had on ahead.
Speaker 5 (35:47):
You know, I'm sitting here like they didn't even know
something was about to drop.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
I'm just saying, Rob, people be connected, people be having
some insight. Hey look, I'm just trying to tell you
your boy had to go down.
Speaker 5 (36:00):
You ain't heard it from me. Your boy were about
to do a raid. You ain't never know. People to
get tipped off about stuff happening that happen, and a
couple with all the mother.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
I just think that sometimes people look into stuff and
try to add more. Lebron is not the center of
anything other than Damon Jones told people that he wasn't
going to play. If I'm Lebron, how this doesn't affect me.
They didn't say Lebron did this or gave out an
information to the mob. If you told me that he
was named in it, then maybe I would feel different.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
I mean, his name coming up in a massive investigation
with the NBA.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
Were you in the base? I see his name in
any headlines ahead and people absolutely use his face headlt
So don't know what you were reading. I didn't see it.
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So a lot to get to here in our number two,
rob G, we got the players involved in this, right,
(01:45):
Rosier and Jones.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
Right.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Okay, so we got those, but I think the bigger
one was Chauncey Billups.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Today, right. I mean that was the.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Current NBA coach who coached the night before's and handcuffs
and the next morning, and the allegations are really bad
about him, rob G.
Speaker 6 (02:06):
Yeah, not just the current NBA coach, because I you know,
some people don't even know he coached the Cheryl Blazers.
They know him as mister big shot NBA champion Detroiteam
Chauncys Pillups Phillips. Chauncey Billups easily the biggest name associated
with all of this stuff. And let's get a quick
refresher course on what's being alleged here involving Chauncey Billups.
(02:28):
Number one, the one that he is listed in by name,
involves an alleged poker scheme where they were rigging games
with shuffle machines X ray glasses of mark cards as
a way to get millions of dollars from what people
they do.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
We'p both shaking our heads, right, I mean.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
It sounds like some Ocean thirteen stuff.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Sounded like a movie script.
Speaker 6 (02:50):
And if you're on Twitter and you saw what these
X ray marked cards things, you're like, it can't be
that easy. Apparently it was. So that's number one. Number
two in this is one that people have inferred and
figured out on their own. In the Terry rose Year indictment,
Billups is not listed by name, but there is a
(03:11):
person described in the indictment that is a former professional
player who played from ninety seven to two thousand and fourteen.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
What would that be right?
Speaker 6 (03:20):
And that he is a current NBA coach, that he
is currently residing in Oregon, and uh, you know, we'll
see who that is at a later.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Exactly what is Jeopardy mustpost say? Who is Shazi Billips?
Speaker 5 (03:36):
Exactly? And y'all clues.
Speaker 6 (03:39):
In that portion of the Terry Roseier allegations, it mentions
a person in Oregon who was relaying information to betters
that his team was tanking, that X, Y and Z
players would not be playing later this week, so if
(03:59):
you wanted to bet against us, now will be the
time to do it. This was all, of course before
then your reports from a public so this was insider information.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Unbelievable, unbelievable, and I gotta say this, Yeah, that is
just damaging, all of it, and even the bilking of
people with the phony poker games and rigged and all that.
If all of this is true, I don't know how
you come back from this from the standpoint of being
involved in basketball, the way people feel about you despite
(04:35):
what you did on the field, you know what I mean.
And he earned all of that. He was a hell
of a player. I covered all that with the pistols.
He was tremendous. I mean, the MVP of the finals.
They beat Shaq and Kobe and for future Hall of
famers call him alone, Gary Payton. I mean all of that.
And in twenty twenty four, this past a lot, right,
(04:57):
this past year, right, yeah, he was inducted into the
Basketball Hall of Fame in Springfield, Massachusetts. Kelvin, I don't
know how you could do anything. And obviously we say
if convicted, so let's.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Leave that there.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
These are all allegations. No one's saying he's guilty and
should be thrown under the jail any of that.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
But he would have.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
To come out of the Hall of Fame if these
allegations are proved or he's convicted of these allegations. I
don't know if any other way how he could be
involved or how you could honor him in this situation.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
That pains me to say.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
You mentioned that two thousand and three when he got there,
was it two that ten year runner give or take
he had. I was there, like you said, I used
to work at WDFN, this station. There I was, you know,
just getting into my career and.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
I was there a games.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Yeah, I'm going in the game, setting up the you know,
the booth for our radio got the Rod Parker and
Kelvin Washington in the future. You know, I can just
sit there and learn and watch. And I got to
be around the game and the team and dude that
that that run meant so much to me, and he
became one of my all time favorite players, as you mentioned,
because he was great, he made all the big shots.
That team was so fun and me same was real
(06:25):
because he made big shot without a doubt, and he
meant so much to the City and that team. You
were there, so it paid me when I saw that
this morning anchoring the news my phone and it sees
his face, of all the faces, just didn't feel like
that would be the face you would see.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
No, I'll be honest, you were there. There's nothing.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
You didn't hear anything about chounces except good dude, this that,
and again this is all alleged.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
We don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
We hope not, but as things are right now, to answer,
to go back to the point of the conversation, you
absolutely have to take somebody out the Hall of Fame
because if this were just rigged poker games, as bad
as that is, that's separate from the NBA. That is
why we have federal investigators, criminal investigators, state you know investigators,
(07:11):
all these different type of investigators and police officers who
can handle that. That is separate from the NBA, especially
considered you know, he's no longer a player, obviously he's
a coach.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
But you could say that's nothing to do with us, because.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
People get pulled over, people have other domestic violence, people
have substance abuse that people have personal live issues.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
I agree to a certain extent, I don't think you
could look at him the same way of cheating people
out of money, knowing that the games were rigged.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
And I know, I.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
Know what I'm saying is, I know, I.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Don't think that's pull you out to pull you out
that could have been kept you from getting in.
Speaker 5 (07:49):
I'm not gonna use that as pull you out. I'm
pulling you out.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
I don't know how I feel good about Chauncey Billups
at all if I know that he was a part
of the mob and the mafia and they had rig games.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
To build people out of money. I'm just being I'm.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
No, no, I get your morale. I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
What I'm saying is the NBA I have to go, like,
where do I draw the line. That's nothing to do
with me, meaning the entity.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
Of the NBA.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
But according to that all right, So uh no, I
don't want to get into hypotheticals, but somebody could do.
But there's something heinous, and because it wasn't done during
because of basketball, you still would be okay with it.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
He should stay.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
What I'm saying is because if he presents a challenge
to where I draw the line, like someone who's in
the Hall of Fame right now, I only like you said,
I only want to use a name player X is
in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
Come to find out.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
He beat his wife pretty bad and had come to
find out does it regularly?
Speaker 5 (08:47):
Do you go and then now pull him out?
Speaker 1 (08:49):
You get what I mean that it becomes a slippery
slope when someone does something criminal and where do you
pull The reason why I would pull I would pull
him out is because this had something to do with
the NBA if this what is alleged actually happened, because
you are telling guys, hey, I ain't playing him to night.
Hey we're tanking. Hey, you might want to put some
money on us. We're gonna look bad tonight. Now, that
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directly affects the integrity of the game, the trust of
the gang, just as directing my business and our fans
that I'm pulling you out.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
But there's also but also in contracts as a professional athlete,
there are moral clauses in there that have nothing to
do with basketball. Moral clauses on how That's why I
fire you, on how you on how you hand represent yourself.
Speaker 5 (09:34):
Yes, and I will admire you for that. Rob, I'm
with you.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
I will say in your contract states this you did
X you're fired again, pulling you out of the Hall
of Fame because a very slippery slope.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
If it becomes to me, it's not it's not slippery
slope if you're convicted of this and you look at
where the because it's a big scope and I get it.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
You know there's there's two different charges.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
Here, right Because you're saying saying.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
That you would be cool with Chauncey if he just
built people out of millions of dollars with the mafia.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
You're saying you're cool with that. Interesting not me. I'm
saying no, No, I'm asking you.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
You're not absolutely not cool, But I'm no, I think
he should.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
But you're saying you wouldn't take him out of the
Hall of Fame if it was just that charge, is correct?
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Ken, If I'm Commissioner Washing, I disagree because what I'm saying,
I would be disappointed. I wouldn't book him for events
blah blah blah blah blah. But it becomes a slippery slope.
Rob This person beat his wife, this person was selling dope,
This person frauded people out of money because he was
with Enron, you know what I mean. He was with
Nron and he frauded people. People, somebody killed themselves because
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they lost all their savings, and like, where do I
draw the line when it becomes things that are away
from the game, Because if people.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Draw the line as the behavior where you do not
hold yourself to a certain standard, so you're gonna.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
Go a lot of well, I'm not mad at you.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
I hear that I would pull people out if they're convicted,
like like they couldn't pull O. J. Simpton because he
was acquitted. Whether you agree or not, he was acquitted, Okay.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
Said he was found guilty of the civils. You get
what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
So it becomes But that's why I'm saying, I wouldn't
want to have to become the judge, jury, and the
executioner on every criminal thing that someone's convicted, because I
have thousands of people in my Hall of Fame, which
you picked the league, and every year someone du y
car crash killed somebody.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
This person, I just.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Don't know that.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
I mean you say that, but I don't know if
it's that many people that you're making the case that
they have all these other skeletons and they're still in
the fame. I'm just saying I would have to You
would have to give me some examples, because I'm not
saying that there's nobody and I'm not. I'm talking about
like they're there, Uh just got into the Hall of
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Fame or whatever they were in the Hall of Fame.
There were a lot and they do something where they
get arrested. As as an NBA coach, you're you're you
just coached the game the night before, get it? You
get you get arrested.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
Yeah, Lawrence Taylor, you and I both agree.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
You could make a case he's the greatest football not
just defensively period. Brother had a while pass ain't nobody,
ain't no secrets. Something comes up? Now he back out
on the street, Michael Irvin, wild pass. Things happen? Do
I pull him out? Because of the White House? You remember
the White House is something you know he done went
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back to the White House.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
Rob Well.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
You know again this is all hypothetical, just using example
to rob Do I then pull them out?
Speaker 5 (12:43):
You get what I'm saying? Like it it becomes difficult.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
I think you have to look at the offense. What's happened. Uh,
if you're convicted of a crime, if you're sent to prison,
I think you have every right if it's he said,
she said, and it's resolved and there's no criminal, you know,
time or whatever, Kelvin, then you have a better argument.
You mean to tell me in handcuffs that Chauncey billups
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coach one night and the next night he was in handcuffs,
and now he gets convicted. We're just talking about hypothetical, right,
And you still think that him being in the Hall
of Fame is cool.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
I don't know if that's cool anymore. I'm not cool
and I'm not happy.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
But I don't want to just start a slippery slope
where again I'm now becoming judging every single thing.
Speaker 5 (13:29):
I'd rather that's what That's what you do.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
When you put people in the Hall of Fame, you judge.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
But I've already put them in. You judge them so
but right, But now, Rob, I judge you to get in.
Now I'm judging you. You got in at twenty five,
thirty five forty five. Now I'm judging for the next
thirty five, forty five fifty.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
You know, the whole life.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
Yes, yes, you are yes, you are yes.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Because if somebody, somebody did a somebody did a heinous crime, Kelvin,
you wouldn't have this argument. You wouldn't and I could
give you a horror example, and you wouldn't have this feeling.
You wouldn't be like, oh, well, well we put him
in and I know he just did this and he's
going to jail for for thirty years and it was
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really an awful thing that happened, but we already put
him in.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Really really, I'm just I'm because now it's too subjective.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
What's the line you say this? Someone else says that you.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Say this, Well, I say, if you got a duy
and you hit somebody, that should be it becomes too subjective.
What is the line that you would then draw? He
beat his wife? Well, I mean, I guess it's not
a big deal. It was only one time. Well, other
people like, oh that's domestic vit you get what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
This man killed dogs?
Speaker 1 (14:41):
No, well it's just dogs that were he even was
he put in jail and conyess it dogs?
Speaker 4 (14:47):
No, I'm talking about it.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
I'm saying. If I'm saying if I was, that it has.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
To be to me of that ilk like a conviction
that would just say that became.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Allegation and you can become convicted, and there's a li
a lot of things that will become slippery slopes if
you open that can of worms.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
To the other side of that.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
With Chauncey, if it is alleged that he was, you know,
telling people out the games and don't bet. Put the
bet here, don't I'm not playing him. We're taking here
then now I'm pulling you.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Out eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven
seven nine nine six sixty three sixty nine. If the
allegations are true, should Chauncey Billups be removed from the
Hall of Fame. We'll continue that conversation next with you.
This will be interesting to hear from people. I really
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Rob, I'm getting ready to put on a white blazer,
no shirt chest here hanging out, go chain, hanging out.
Give my Miami vice on. We got college kids with
see Air Clark coming up in a minute, host of
the sec TE podcast. We'll talk some college football in
the middle of all this drama. And I think Rob
and I, I think only you and I Rob could
find a way to take what we're discussing, that this
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whole NBA and the gambling and all that, and still
find a way to make it the Eye Couple version
of it, where somehow we made it. I believe Chauncey
billups the two parter. If it's just the running the
poker games and all that and all that bad stuff,
that's criminal, that's for the police and FBI to handle.
I think you stay in the Hall of fame if
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it's player involvement, I'm not playing him and this guy
we're taking that pulls you out of the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 5 (17:55):
You feel he's out either way.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
I just think that there's an integrity thing on both sides,
Like like it's hard to prop up somebody who did
either one of those things, like like the one you're
poo pooing about the mob and ripping off.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
What I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
I'm saying is go to prison. That is not the
that's not the hard understand.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
But but to me that that that is that's awful
to me to do that to somebody and then to prison.
Josh in Texas, You're in the couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
What's up, Josh? Is this seven? Nothing already?
Speaker 5 (18:32):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (18:32):
The vikings on was that the first pass of the game?
Speaker 5 (18:35):
Oh my god, was it?
Speaker 4 (18:38):
No, not the first but.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
It was an interception, uh by the Vikings Okay, go ahead, Gosh, Josh.
Speaker 8 (18:47):
So I would have to say, I think.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Your phone is under I don't know what what Josh,
we can't hear you.
Speaker 9 (19:01):
Okay, ahead, Okay, perfect, Sorry about that.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
I was saying.
Speaker 8 (19:08):
I agree with Kelvin.
Speaker 9 (19:09):
I think that since it's not NBA related, Persave, that
you can keep him in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 8 (19:14):
And if it was Indian related, then I think I
would have no problem with him being removed from the.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Hall of Fame.
Speaker 9 (19:20):
And I'm a kick from Fort Michigan, you know, Charlson
billis is like one of my heroes.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Okay, it sounds like a one O was fine. That's
just fine, all right, appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
Jay in Georgia, you're in the odd couple of Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
What's up, Jake?
Speaker 6 (19:33):
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Speaker 1 (19:33):
Guys?
Speaker 5 (19:34):
How a y'all doing? Yeah?
Speaker 9 (19:37):
First of all towns of businesses of corderline, Hall of
Famer anyway, so it becomes the goes. I don't mean
nobody else missed it, but I think in this instant
you got to kick him out of the Hall of
Fame because he's messing up there. Take of the game, Rob,
Like you said, out of time, you walk in any
MLB club house, he got a big sign to say
no gambling, no bit in this that.
Speaker 8 (20:00):
The third So if he did that, he got no
choice but to go.
Speaker 9 (20:03):
But the problem is you turned on the TV. It
is working for the NBA on ESPN oh presented by
Draft Well both ways.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Hey, that's why at the start of the show, Jay,
I don't know if you heard it, but that's why
I blame the commissioner in the league for making gambling
normalized and where people if you ride up to the
arena there it is right.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
Kelvin it's everywhere.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
It's right there, everywhere the star star Lebron is talking
about draft Kings.
Speaker 5 (20:39):
I mean, it's everywhere.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Sean in Sacramento. You're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio.
What's up, Sean.
Speaker 8 (20:47):
Yeah, I'll go from another brother cousin, kill me and
my brother behind the board, whatever I see real quick, man.
They didn't take oj out the Hall of Fame. They
got a bunch of questionable dudes in the Baseball Hall
of Fame. I just don't think you could put a
guy in to Kelvin's point and then take him out
after the fact, unless it's something extremely glaring, like he
was actually.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Betting on the game.
Speaker 8 (21:08):
And per the investigative reporter on the Dan Patrick Show
this morning, all the allegations s them prior to him
become a coach, becoming a coach for the Portland Trailblazers,
and it really no, no, no.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
No, that's not what's in the rob g Reddit and
and that was right from March twenty three. He was
a coach.
Speaker 8 (21:30):
Okay, okay, But my other point is.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
That that's huge. That's huge.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
That's huge.
Speaker 8 (21:35):
That that is huge.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
That is and that's the difference to me, that's different
than the than the poker game.
Speaker 8 (21:40):
To me, right, And we gotta we gotta figure out
what's what's what and see what actually happens with him.
But if he is charged with something that happens to
the game, I agree with pulling him out. But if
it's just a poker game, and what I think is
happening was he was baiting X players, current players to
join those poker games on behalf of the mob and
raking in millions for them.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
He was using the NBA to build people.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Why don't you guys see that it was the idea
of playing with a former NBA player. He used his
status as a player to get people to play in
these poker games for thousands of thousands.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
Of dollars kelvin so that he could build them.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
He wasn't Chauncey Billups nobody, a regular citizen.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
He used his status and.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
His name to glore unsuspecting people and victims.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
That's why it's heinous, and I'm why that's my thing.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
Though.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
You can't un bee Chauncey Billups no meaning he's Chauncey Billups.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
If he goes and gets a dui.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
That's what the first time, they're gonna say, no, they're
gonna say NBA Hall of Famer killed woman.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
In a dui incident.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
No, us he used his name and the idea that
he played in the league to lore people that that's
that's the part that I don't think.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
I hear you, I hear you. We just disagree, we disagree,
all right.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
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Speaker 5 (23:32):
They swear they know college ball takes the A.
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Are there?
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Right as college kids here on the Acaba Fox Sports
rados every week talk a little college football. This week
it's the SEC with none other than the host of
the SECT podcast, Sierra Clarks Here, how are you hello?
Speaker 10 (23:58):
Thank you guys for having me.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
Yes, Sierah, how are you.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Let's go good good.
Speaker 6 (24:05):
All right, Sierra's got three very hot takes related mostly
to SEC football, So let's get to it. Take number one.
Let's get started here, Sierra. As you guys know some
big firings around college football, including Florida head coach Billy Napier.
That was a tough scene there for the people in Gainesville,
and Sierra is one of those people who's like, you
know what, guys, let's be honest, pulling the trigger too
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early when it comes to firing coaches. Sierra tell us, why, well,
the touch.
Speaker 10 (24:32):
On the point you made about Florida. I do think
that firing was justified. It was a long time coming.
But on the other side of the spectrum I really
met was the James Franklin situation at Penn State when
he was fired. He was there a really long time,
but he just had two really bad games this year
with his quarterback being hurt and losing to Ecla and
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losing to Northwestern. But the thing is they mostly fired
him because he could not win the big games. The
only beat Ohio State once during his career. So my
thing is, Okay, you let him go, who are you
going to replace him with? And it's just like a round,
It's a merry go round of misery. That seems what
Auburn has now they can't seem to find the right guy.
So just like, Okay, one bad year isn't the end of.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
The world, Sierra, you are not graduating college?
Speaker 9 (25:20):
Back to school?
Speaker 3 (25:22):
I'm sorry, yeah, that back well, the whole notion that
you could be lousy at your job and you don't
know who else to will who will you hire? That
shouldn't be reason you keep your job. At some point
you need to win. If not, we'll get somebody else.
That's all I mean you. James Franklin was there for years.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
How long was he coach?
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Ten years at Penn State?
Speaker 5 (25:42):
Years?
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Twelve years? I'm sorry I short changed him. He was
there plenty of times. His record was awful, Sierra, and
they had to move on.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
Because he couldn't win the big games.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
Seierra, this is your most sophomore take all the time.
This was the easy one. Listen, I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
If this would have been a bad year, you can't
never lose it beat Michigan or Ohio State. Right, you can't.
You can't always lose it in you can't be one
in twenty one against top ten teams under my watch?
Speaker 5 (26:12):
What are we doing here? Absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
They gave him all the chances, all the resources off too.
I got a two hundred million dollar new place on building.
I needed to have some bigger wins, some college football
wins up in here. It was time to go. He'll
get a great job somewhere else and maybe he can
prove himself.
Speaker 6 (26:26):
Then all right, take number two college kids, Sierra Clark
with the Yon couples.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
Sierra is getting a head handed toward us.
Speaker 6 (26:33):
Yeah, Sierra says, Now, one thing about nil, it's leveling
the playing field here in the SEC. Sierra, explain yourself, Well,
of course you have.
Speaker 10 (26:43):
Your Georgia's and Alabamas that have been dominant over the years,
but now there's more teams in the middle of the
packs that are rising up. I mean, if a team
like Ole Miss beats Oklahoma this week and I think
they're in the College Football Playoff, and then we see
that College Game Day is going to Vanderbilt take on
mis Zoo and all of the program, PEP Strong and
il programs. They recruit from all over the place using
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the transfer portal, and it's made those middle of the
pack teams headed.
Speaker 8 (27:08):
Toward the top.
Speaker 10 (27:09):
And it would not shock me if those middle of
the pack teams made the college football playoffs.
Speaker 5 (27:14):
Absolutely, you're graduating, Congrau.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Go ahead, pitch your little tassel to the other side,
Tosha Kapaniir, you're graduating because look, at the end of
the day, you talk about the SEC, but even if
you look at the Big Ten, look at the team
like Indiana out of the blue. Indiana is a powerhouse
right beating any and everybody.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
They look great.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
You talk about old miss and Lane kiffing out there
doing this thing. I mean, the fact of the matter
is these teams are getting good quickly, and with the
transfer portal as well, you're able to reshape and retool quickly.
And now it is becoming you have a chance to
compete where you did in otherwise for some of these
more middling teams in the SEC. So I believe I
agree with you that it's going to be more competitive
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ever than ever. And to just sit up there and
dominate for ten to twelve years, I don't see that happening.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
Sierra is sophomore.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Sierra, Okay, they won a couple of games something, it's
the same teams and the only reason why maybe they're
gonna be in a college football playoff because now they
let twelve teams in or they're gonna let twenty in.
So sure, some of these other schools will finally get in,
but it's the same schools.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
Let me see some of these middling schools.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
Let me see Indiana win a national championship, and then
I'll feel different about it.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
Until then, no, I'm not buying it.
Speaker 6 (28:34):
Last one College Kids Sierra Clark Hoach of the have
CCT podcast, sitting in with the couple talking little college football.
Last one, Sierra says Texas A and m at LSU
must win for head coach Brian Kelly. Go Tigers, Sierra
tell us, why.
Speaker 10 (28:52):
Yeah, this is absolutely a must win for Brian Kelly.
He's been there for a few years now, and we
know for some spooky stuff that goes down in Baton Ruge, Louisiana,
especially during the night games. LSU's only lost one night
game since Brian Kelly got there, and that was last
year against Alabama and Stans are just tired of not
being back in the place so they were in twenty
nineteen with Joe Burrow. LSU right now five and two
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headed towards almost the bottom half of the SEC. So
this is just a must win game. And Texas A
and M is not an easy team to beat. The
ranked number three in the nation, have a great quarterback
who's mobile and Marcel Reid. So I think that if
LSC loses this game, because you cannot lose at home
in Baton, Ruge is one of the those electric places
to play. If they lose, I think coach Kelly is
going to be on the hot seat.
Speaker 5 (29:35):
If it's all me, then yes, you're graduating. I always
say congratulations.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
He's right on that list of guys who are always
like right there where you kind of feel like you
could even say Franklin. Maybe not to that degree. He's
wonted some big games, but where you always want more.
There's always left to be desired, and I can agree
that if he starts to falter some more of this season,
that you start warming up that seat. I ain't saying
his buns are all the way toasty, but they get
the heat is on a little bit making him twisting
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shot and be a little uncomfortable.
Speaker 5 (30:03):
So I agree with you. You graduated.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
Finally you graduated.
Speaker 5 (30:09):
Congratulations, Sier.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
I think you finally nailed one. All right, It's okay,
it was a rough week, but this one you nailed.
Congratulations mazle top.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
How's that?
Speaker 5 (30:20):
Thank you?
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Yeah, that James Franklin went here. She would have hated
to be. She would have hated to be on our
show that day he got fired. We let him have it,
we be.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
We poured barbecue sauce on his back.
Speaker 5 (30:32):
I'm just saying, we let him have it.
Speaker 10 (30:34):
There.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
See our great stuff as always, thank you, Thank you one,
no doubt as always pretty good stuff there, all right.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
See we got a nice job.
Speaker 5 (30:43):
Oh yeah, man, I completely agree.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
Grin.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
It's a good way to get some college football in
as well.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
So we got the all the investigation and the rest
that happened in the NBA, and it had me thinking
about something. We had a conversation about the face of
the NBA, but it was about something else that now
I'm wondering if that's why he may have had a
disposition he did on the bench.
Speaker 5 (31:04):
We'll tell you what we're talking about.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
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Rob, I want to throw this at you. We were talking.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Yesterday, I believe it was within the last couple of
days about Lebron's disposition during the game on the court
where he's usually Gregarias.
Speaker 5 (32:21):
Even if he's not.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Playing, he's locked in he's coaching, he's high five and teammates.
Speaker 5 (32:26):
You know he is. He's been that same way his
whole career.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
And now that we hear his name is not an
investigation and that he's being investigated, but that you know,
Damon Jones knew that Lebron wasn't gonna play in a
certain game and allegedly spread information about that. I'm wondering now, Rob,
looking back, if Lebron had any inkling, like in the
next twenty four hours this is about to drop.
Speaker 5 (32:50):
No, you don't think so.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
Don't think so. I don't think anybody.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
You don't think he No, I don't nah, I think
I mean, that's obviously your opinion.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
What to connect it.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
No, he's connected that Chauncey Billups was going to be
arrested this morning at UH and UH.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
Terry Rogier he knew that.
Speaker 6 (33:10):
Well.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Terry Rogiers, a lawyer, talked about how they had been
in with back and forth and that they knew they knew.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
That there was an investigation, but they didn't know they
was going to be arrested.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Right because they talked about how it's some similar to
what we talked about, how they made it as if
he was a person adv inenter is not a suspect,
and so that's why he's upset. I feel like to investigate.
I gotta snoop around, right, I gotta ask questions, I
gotta pull you, I gotta make calls. I gotta do this.
I got it.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
But that doesn't mean that he knows when exactly they're
going to arrest somebody. So, yeah, you might know that
this investigation going on. The cops Usually when they do
these things, it's a surprise. They don't announce, oh, yeah, tomorrow,
we're going to Chauncey Billups's house to arrest him. No,
if they wanted to do that, they could have called
Chauncey bills attorney and said, I.
Speaker 5 (33:58):
Didn't say Chauncey, I ain't say nothing.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
What are you saying?
Speaker 5 (34:01):
You're talking about Damon Jones. I'm wondering, Yeah, if Lebron,
but no.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
Damn Jones knew that he was going to get arrested today.
Speaker 5 (34:07):
I'm wondering it.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
So because I'm listening, I'm going back to specifically.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
I think that Lebron James having a frown face was
not about Damon Jones being arrested.
Speaker 5 (34:18):
I'm just this is me, This is this is me wondering.
I'm listening.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
We already talked about it that you know, the initial
reaction Jones, Well, not Damon Jones.
Speaker 5 (34:27):
I don't think he cared.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Not.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
I'm sure their friends, I'm clearly we know that. But
I meant more so.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
I meant more so my name being linked to something
like this, I'm not what.
Speaker 4 (34:35):
Just the idea that Damon Jones, yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Just because he that Damon Jones knew that Lebron was
gonna play. Now Lebron knowing I'm the biggest name in
the whole. You know, I could be the I could
become a thing because of this, I could be.
Speaker 5 (34:48):
What did Lebron know? Did he tell him something?
Speaker 9 (34:50):
Well?
Speaker 5 (34:50):
Why didn't he play that game? And I'm wondering.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
This is me just speculating when I when I yesterday,
I'm like, man, he's being a bad teammate, which is unusual.
Speaker 5 (34:59):
What's going on?
Speaker 4 (35:00):
We've seen him?
Speaker 5 (35:01):
Is he pouting?
Speaker 3 (35:02):
Because for an act like it and all of his
body language, we've seen it before.
Speaker 5 (35:08):
We've seen it. I don't know how many times you
watch games.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Many times he's walked off the court without even wapping
up anybody or or saying.
Speaker 5 (35:16):
When he's sitting on the side of the you know,
not playing.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
That's the first time you ever saw him look like that.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Pout yesterday, absolutely for an entire game, not like a
minute at the game if they were up twenty and
they got blue out or something. That was the first
time I've seen him a whole game be not coaching
up somebody, not in the huddle, not cracking a joke,
not eating peanuts.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
It's also the first season that started in the NBA
where he wasn't the focal point.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
And that was my point yesterday and it was now
I'm wondering, let me have.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
My aluming him had on ahead.
Speaker 5 (35:47):
You know, I'm sitting here like they didn't even know
something was about to drop.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
I'm just saying, Rob, people be connected, people be having
some insight. Hey look, I'm just trying to tell you
your boy had to go down.
Speaker 5 (36:00):
You ain't heard it from me. Your boy were about
to do a raid. You ain't never know. People to
get tipped off about stuff happening that happen, and a
couple with all the mother.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
I just think that sometimes people look into stuff and
try to add more. Lebron is not the center of
anything other than Damon Jones told people that he wasn't
going to play. If I'm Lebron, how this doesn't affect me.
They didn't say Lebron did this or gave out an
information to the mob. If you told me that he
was named in it, then maybe I would feel different.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
I mean, his name coming up in a massive investigation
with the NBA.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
Were you in the base? I see his name in
any headlines ahead and people absolutely use his face headlt
So don't know what you were reading. I didn't see it.
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