December 25, 2025 • 40 mins
🎙️ Hour 2 of The Odd Couple!
Rob Parker and Andy Furman, filling in for Kelvin Washington, bring you a special Christmas Day edition of The Odd Couple! In Hour 2, the guys kick things off by discussing James Nnaji, the 31st overall pick in the 2023 NBA Draft, committing to Baylor. Next, Rob asks the question: should QB Joe Burrow stay in Cincinnati? Finally, Shay asks the crew, "What was the best Christmas or Hanukkah gift you received this year?" in a new edition of Shop Talk! All that and more in Hour 2! 🔥🎧
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:25):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Welcome in our number two on a Christmas night, A
very special night here on the Odd Couple. Rob Parker,
Andy Furman in for Kelvin Washington, the Cincinnati radio legend.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Indeed, my good friend.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Always great to mix it up with Andy and Uh,
we don't have the YouTube going live today it is
Christmas night, but normally it is on up every night
on the YouTube channel. Andy is doing really well subscribing
watching us on YouTube, listening to.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Us on the radio.
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subscribe to the program.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Also, we got a little shop talk.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
We're gonna get into best Christmas Hanukah gifts this year.
I'm gonna say this Alex and Andy and Shaye, this
is how you know the gift you got is awesome.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Tell me why, because.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
I'm wearing it. I'm wearing it right now. My friends
Karen and Gary Jordan, I went to college with them.
In fact, they were at Southern Connecticut when they dedicated
to press box. I've been We've been friends, Andy for
forty years, you know. And the thing that's strange or
weird or different is that I knew Karen and individually,
(02:01):
and I knew Gary separately, and then they got together
like very seldom. You're usually friends with one or the other,
you know what I mean, and you become friends with
their partner or their you know, they've been married for
a long time. But I know them separately, and we
all went to a party they met, and that's and
then they wound up going to college, graduating and all that.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
And stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
But they bought me this Eddie Bauer ten vess puffy vesque,
not too big though, you know, for California, Andy beautiful.
If you go on social media on either my Twitter,
Rob Parker, MLB bro or Instagram the same, you'll be
able to see it.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
And Alex, you saw it as soon as I walked in.
What'd you say?
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Beautiful fits you perfectly color coordination's great.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
You know I love brown.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Yeah, I just couldn't believe you actually just got it.
That's how you know it meant something.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Put it on immediately, I'm like, oh, this is too
nice looking, Andy. So you know that when you get
a gift that you really like, you normally don't let
it sit around. You're like, oh, no, I'm using it.
And Alex, you got to, Well, you got something from
your sister, didn't you today.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
Yeah, she got me one of those like very viral
fun knives that people use in the outdoors world. They're
like a big, almost kind of like small butcher looking
knife and they've used it on these really cool flat rocks.
My sister knew I talked about that like a long
time ago, so she got it for me. Ainsley went outside,
set up my juicing machine and use it the entire time.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
And that and that's another one.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
You knew that know, this is something I really want
to use and I really like so uh yeah, And
we'll get into that later on in the hour. We'll
talk about the best Honukah gift you got, Andy and
Christmas gifts Shay and Alex, and we'll do more of
that coming up.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Later on in the hour, but first we want to.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
Go to college me for one second, because this is
on my mind now and I'm gonna figure out because
all those things I lose.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Trade the Tenton's thought.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
You were talking about the situation with Charles Barkley kind
of calling the NBA guys the NFL got pigs, right, right?
I love Why is Charles Barkley the only guy with
a pair of hanging downs to attack the NFL. Why
aren't the other owners saying anything? Why aren't players saying it?
I don't get why is the only Charles I love him.
I love Charles Barkley because he fears no one. He
fears no one.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
And I like, here's how relevant and powerful that Charles
Barkley is.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
And I've known him.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
I covered him, you know, Andy, back in the days
when I was an NBA reporter, back in the Daily
News in New York back in the eighties. Okay, so
I've been around Charles for a long time now. I
didn't cover him every day, but I covered the NBA
during enough time. And my point is this, when you know,
like the players don't like Charles, that's all you need
to know, because at first they used to get on us. Andy, Oh, well,
(04:33):
you guys didn't play. You don't know whatever, Your opinion
doesn't matter. Then when Charles came out and doing his thing,
they hate him, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
So basically they just don't want to be criticized. But
Charles doesn't care.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
And the idea that the players don't like Charles Barkley
tells you all you need to know how good, strong
and powerful he is.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Okay, let's go through the owner's Then why don't the
owners say anything? I don't get it.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
They're not gonna say anything. What are you gonna say?
But I just I hear them. I mean, the NFL
is all over the place, and all they.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Keep doing is they want they would want to be
on and people don't understand this. The only reason they're
doing it is if they lump all the games together
on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
There's only but so much money you.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Get every time you break a game off and make
it a national game. Andy, they gotta pay a ton
of money. That's why. That's the only reason. That's why
they have Thursday Night Football, That's why they on Netflix
and all these other plays because they pay premium to
be the only game. They don't care about CBS, right
or Fox. They don't because those are regional games. Those
(05:39):
are regional. You're only seeing them in particular areas. These
are national games, and that's what they want. But anyway,
let's go here, Shay, college basketball, Andy, this is up
your alley. You know, Cincinnati is a great college basketball town.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Used to be. Okay, used to be. But this this
story is interesting.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
A lot of people I've seen on social media, they
got their panties in a bunch ovid this, But Jay
tell us what's going on?
Speaker 6 (06:02):
So yeah, this is going over to Baylor. Former NBA
draft pick James Nausey is reported to have joined the
Bears after playing in Europe for a little bit. Former
Detroit Pistons second round pick, he he he was picked
at thirty one and he'll be playing the second half
of the season with the Bears. He's actually granted four
(06:23):
years of eligibility by the NCAA and the Nigerian twenty
one year old big man was selected thirty first over
on the twenty twenty three NBA draft and.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
His rights were moved to Charlotte.
Speaker 6 (06:37):
Despite being drafted, he never signed a standard NBA contract,
but in twenty twenty four, his rights were moved once again,
this time to the New York Knicks as part of
the three team Karling Anthony Towns trade. Now he's just
kind of just been stagnant, and now he will be
playing for the Baylor Bears in the second half of
the season.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
What do you guys think?
Speaker 6 (06:56):
Is this all right? Did the NCAA do the right
thing for him? Is this something that you could see
happening a lot more?
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Rob Let me know, I'm gonna say this, Andy, I
have no issue with it. The NCAA was so bad, Andy,
you remember this in the old days, if you even
put your name in to the NBA draft, you remember
your eligibility was stripped from you, even if you didn't
get drafted, even if you didn't sign with an agents
(07:25):
exactly how and then guys wouldn't get picked or whatever.
They wouldn't let him come back to school. This kid
has not played one minute of NBA basketball. He either
he hasn't, so why wouldn't he be able to come
back and go back to college and finish and play
college basketball. I think this is straight and right, and
(07:49):
the NCAA gets so many things wrong.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Andy. I think They're right on this.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
If that kid had played one minute for the Pistons
or the Knicks or Charlotte or whoever he was with, then
obviously he can't go and.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Play college I'll play college basketball.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Look at all these older players now playing college football
got eligibility.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
They're twenty eight years old, twenty six years old, right,
you know, it's an interesting situation. I'll tell you why.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
Because the fact that he'd never played, he never sun
a contract with the NBA says he never became a
court professional. However, less summery played in the summer League
for the Knicks, whatever that means. But obviously he had
to get paid, so he was a coote professional. The
problem being, and you're gonna go back in time, if
this was fifteen twenty years ago, he wouldn't be able
to play in college. The reason why he can play,
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more than any other reason, not because he didn't sign
a contract. Because right now the NCAA is afraid of lawsuits.
Everybody's sueing everybody else. That's the only reason he's gonna
be able to play for Baylor. I gotta believe that.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Yeah, I think that if he hasn't played, when you
look up when you look up the NBA and people
who have played in the league, his name's not on
the list.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
He didn't play a real game, Andy.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Well, does summer league? Does that count?
Speaker 3 (09:04):
No? No, no, it doesn't count. It doesn't. He didn't get paid.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
I don't know what the standard is or what the
because he never signed a contract, so I don't know
exactly if he was really considered a professional athlete. There's
a loophole because he didn't sign an NBA contract or
playing a game. I think he still has his status.
I don't have an issue with this.
Speaker 5 (09:27):
I know a lot of people I don't really care,
and I'll be honest you, I have more of a
problem of when the NBA was signing kids out of
high school that I.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Think is worse. I really do. But Andy, I'll disagree
with you, and I'm gonna tell you why.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
No other place on earth would you punish a prodigy.
If you had a fourteen year old kid who was
a concert pianist and she could play in Carnegie Hall,
not one person would stand in her way and say,
what are.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
You doing here? But that's you. I agree. Let me
give you another one on the call.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Okay, kids graduate college, Andy at fifteen, sixteen years old,
because you're brilliant. You don't say you got to stay
in middle school or whatever because you're fourteen.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
You're a genius, you've done all the work. You don't
stay there. You know what you're doing.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
You graduate college at fifteen, Go look it up. There's
plenty of people. Nobody stops a prodigy. And that's my point.
If you're a prodigy Lebron James or somebody, and you're
able to play even though you're young, you should be
able to play. Nobody stopped McCauley Coughland. What was his name,
(10:35):
what's his last name?
Speaker 4 (10:36):
Cally Cookland Right, McAuley, cochin Culkin.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Thank you, you're welcome.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Please, you're welcome.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Anybody stop him from going to make home alone? Andy,
He not an adult. But there's a big difference. Well
what is it.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
The difference is you're comparing mental prowess against physical ability.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
No, I'm talking about No.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
You would not take a high school kid and put
him in the NFL, even if he wasn't prodigy because prodigity,
because he he can't play physically with a twenty five
year old guy, Candy, Andy physically.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
I disagree, and I'm gonna tell you why. First of all,
it has to be on an individual basis. And I
don't know if you've seen some of these twenty nineteen twenty.
When I met Lebron James in high school, he looked
like a man to me, and now he was in
high school. I'll never forget I met him at the
Palace of Auburn Hills. Behind it was just me, Lebron
James and world Wide West, nobody else. I was standing
(11:32):
face to face with him and I could not believe
he was in high school. Okay, how his size and everything.
There are exceptions to the rule, most but that's not
the onners of the kids. That's the onus of the team.
If he's not ready or not physical, then yes, Andy,
don't draft him.
Speaker 5 (11:48):
All these told tell you why. I remember seeing Dave
Newmark in high school. He went to Lincoln High School
in Brooklyn. He was seven feet tall, and he kind
of fizzled out in the NBA. So so it goes
both ways.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Right, Yeah, I'm not saying that that just because you're
I'm saying no one should be denied an opportunity to work.
This is me If someone is willing to pay you.
I don't care who it is. If somebody says, I
know you're sixteen or I know that. Look at all
the guys who get hurt in the NFL. Those are
grown men. They still get hurt. It has nothing to
(12:22):
do with that. Then, So the grown men go and
they get hurt. You're gonna get hurt in the NFL
because of the nature of the game. It's part of
the business exactly. The only reason that they keep the
kids out is so that the colleges can make money
off of them, and it has nothing to do with
their well being. And you don't believe that for one second.
Speaker 5 (12:39):
I still believe it's college freshman, no matter how talented
he may be.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
I'm not talking about talent, but physical. There are guys
who are unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
They're on guys you've seen nothing far between the few
and far between.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
That's a prodigy. That's why I said a prodigy. Okay,
all right, okay, you see.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
What I'm saying. It's got to be a lot. We
don't see it often, but the NFL.
Speaker 5 (12:57):
You cannot go there until you have at least three
years a college, right, Isn't that the rule all that.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
But that's that's the made up rule that they have.
I mean that right.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
I mean you could go play golf at fourteen, you know,
it's just all made up. You can go to Minor
League Baseball and all that. The only thing they did Lincoln.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
Has it right is the MSL because they got fourteen
year old kids playing in.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Major League Soccer. Of course LS.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
I'm sorry, right, And there's no reason not to if
they're talented in that way, all right? Eight seven to
seven ninety nine on Fox, We do want to hear
about the James Naji just Baylor?
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Is this crazy? Is this my sugar? Nat Andy?
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Is this eleven?
Speaker 1 (13:33):
He's big? Is this crazy? Because he did play in
the summer League. Did the NCAA finally get it right?
I think they did? And he doesn't think they got
it right. We want to hear from you. Eight seven
seven ninety nine on Fox. It is the odd couple
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Fox Sports Radio, Rob Parker Andy Furman, the Cincinnati radio legend.
(13:56):
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for me.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
But you know what you need to do, stick and stay.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
That's by chance you're McAuley Culkin's agent in the US
of air.
Speaker 7 (14:15):
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Speaker 3 (15:45):
Don't forget Shop Talks coming up.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
A lot to get to in this final I mean,
in this second hour of the program. If you want
to jump in on this, do it. Eight seven, seven
ninety nine on Fox, we're talking about James Nasee, who
never was drafted in the NFL NBA, I should say,
but never played Andy and is going to play for
(16:10):
bailor they gave him four years of eligibility because he
did not play in a real NBA game. Are you
on the side of the NCAA and you agree with
this I do?
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Or are you against this saying that No, Andy's against it.
I'm for it because he's a pro.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
It's not about the NBA. He's a pro he played
in Turkey. He's a pro. Well, the NBA can signed
play is from Turkey. They're pros, right, he is a pro.
He got paid to play. Do you remember Andrew Gaye
who played for was that Michigan State? What's cool was
he with the twenty six year old made all those threes?
(16:46):
Remember that he came from Australia, Andrew Gays look it up.
I'm just saying he played in Australia. Like they don't
recognize the same as being in an NBA. He was
twenty six years off.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
I remember.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
But anyway, where are you falling on this? Eight seven,
seven ninety nine on Fox? Let's do it, Mark and Sacramento.
You're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio. I knew
my man would call on Christmas. Merry Christmas to you.
Speaker 9 (17:09):
And yours Mark, welcome mister fulman. And of course I
was going to call you. You know, we got a thing
going since you had this show. What's going on?
Speaker 10 (17:17):
Nine years now?
Speaker 9 (17:17):
Eight nine years.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Yep, eight plus years, unbelievable yep going on.
Speaker 9 (17:22):
So yeah, so, so Marry Christmas.
Speaker 10 (17:24):
Rob.
Speaker 9 (17:24):
You know I had to do it. First of all,
I want to say, I want to say Christmas belongs
to the NBA. I don't care what the NFL does.
They're trying to go seven days week that they can
because it's so greedy, so they're just going to over
securi the svies. Eventually, I had to say that about that.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
That's what happens. Do you remember Andy, who wants to
be a millionaire? You remember that that show with Regis?
Speaker 3 (17:44):
It was hot? Yes, and what did the ABC do?
They put it on three nights a week and killed.
Speaker 5 (17:49):
The christ Let's is more. They pitched, but less is more.
They killed the self all that. Yep, they killed the show.
Speaker 9 (17:56):
And this is football. How much can the body take
up Tuesday, Thursday, Friday.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Look at all the injuries, Mark, look at all the
injuries and still't forget.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
They're gonna go to eighteen games soon too?
Speaker 10 (18:09):
Yeah that too.
Speaker 9 (18:10):
They just they want another penny. He's got the so
greedy man. They can't help it any pen they can find.
So I had to say that about those greedy suckers.
And as far as the kid going back, I think
it's time he finally got something right, Andy, I'm sorry.
I hate the NCAA rules. There's been one hundred years
of them taking it better your kids. Yes, don't give
(18:30):
me this professional stuff either. Everything's the professional now they
can't use their name. I don't want to hear that
pro stuff anymore.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
Well, you know what, you kind of hit on something there,
because if you go to college nil and they're getting
the paycheck, I thincuse you're considered.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
The pro then too.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
There you go right right.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
They're saying they still have amateur status despite money. That's
why I think they can't keep this kid out. Andy
they what makes the pro? What makes it pro? Tell
me what?
Speaker 3 (18:55):
No, you gotta play.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
You gotta play the professional league, I think is the
only once you get there.
Speaker 9 (19:00):
Yeah, they have to play. The other thing is that
you know the think about the word code. You'll have
to try that for a while. But look what they've
done now. Then I'll pay the athletes. And that was
the original amateurs. But that those guys get paid yep,
crazy guys get paid now. So I mean we need
to look at this. The stupid rude that you say,
hold it on because they've had these kids for one hundred.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Years using them unbelievable.
Speaker 10 (19:24):
I'm thinking of UCAA.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
I am no, I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
March thank you, Mark, appreciate it. Merry Christmas to you
and yours. Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Is to deal with these people? What are they drinking?
Speaker 1 (19:37):
I don't get it, don't worry about it, and you
don't lost eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox. Geez,
Dick and Dayton, you're on the odd couple of Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
What's up, Dick, This is my guy, This is my guy.
Different dates we're doing, Dick, Mary, Chrisndy.
Speaker 10 (19:53):
I just wanted to tell you last week I saw
Joe Burrow looked pretty darn good and they got two
more games that I'm thinking maybe they could end up
seven and ten. But Joe Burrow last week where I talked, played.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
Pretty well touchdowns foot touchdowns against the bad team, and
they're not going to the playoffs. So I think, I
hate to, you know, blow up your bubble, but that's
the way it is.
Speaker 10 (20:14):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think the Browns myself, they
need to get Sepharnski out, we get a new coordinator
because they're just losing too many games, too many games. Guys.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
All right, thank you, Dick and Dayton. We appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox if you want
to jump in uh to me, I think I think
it's uh. With the way the nil is andy and
the money, I think it's impossible for them to keep
this kid out.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
They're paying, right, but I still think the NCAA is
afraid of a lawsuit. That's what it's about. They're right,
but I know they're paying people.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
I know that.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
So so that was you're telling me that if a
kid is a sophomore in college getting nil money and
he's good enough skill wise to play in the NBA,
goes to the NBA, plays the NBA, and then.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Decides like no, no, no, he wasn't playing enough. Could
you go back?
Speaker 5 (21:08):
No? I mean, really, once you sign up this kid,
the kid he signed, he played pro in Turkey, He's
going back.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
He didn't go to bail it.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
He didn't sign a professional contract in the United States.
I'm telling the United States. Okay, So the United States then, okay.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
That's the only jurisdiction you have, like right, like I
would think, I'm telling you look it up, Shay Andrew Gaze.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
I don't know where he played. I wanted.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
I don't know why I want to say, did he
play a Seaton Hall of Michigan State. He was a
three point specialist at Andrew Gaze and he was from Australia.
I want to say he was twenty six years old
playing college basketball something like that, and I think he
played you know, maybe you know, Australian basketball. But he
didn't have any he didn't eat up his college eligibility,
(21:50):
like there was some loophole if I remember correctly. But anyway, Uh,
it's so much. We could still get into that, but
we're going to talk about your guy Joe Burrow, who
doesn't sound happy being in Cincinnati. I don't know what's
going on with him. And I want to get your
take on Joe Burrow and the frustrations and just the
(22:11):
way he sounds. He doesn't sound happy. We'll do that
much more before let's get you caught up USC. Chris
is in. He's got your sports update.
Speaker 11 (22:22):
All right, guys, We've got the Broncos on the board
against the Kansas City Chiefs. Kansas City, Kansas very soon
three nothing. Denver started with a field goal. This is
the first time now the Chiefs have touched the ball.
Chris Ola Dokun under center for the Chiefs, as Gardner,
Minshew and Patrick Mahomes are both out. Earlier in the NFL,
(22:45):
we saw the Lions go down to the Vikings twenty
three to ten the finals score. This eliminates the Lions
from playoff contention and also clinches a playoff berth.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Can I say the Green Bay Packers, I'm sorry about that. Sorry, Chris,
It's whatever. This season's a wash. They took you. Guys
were talking about injuries earlier.
Speaker 11 (23:02):
We're not talking enough about how much of a rotating
door the offensive line was. There maybe one starter from
last year on that line here today. It's kind of
a mess across the entire board. They've got a lot
to fix up this offseason. The Cowboys defeated the Commanders
with a thirty to twenty three victory and Tomahawks stakes
(23:22):
to share between Dak Prescott and his wide receiver after
that on hard court, Currently, with four minutes to go
in the first quarter, Houston Rockets with a twenty five
sixteen lead on the Los Angeles Lakers. Earlier, Mavericks were
defeated by the Warriors one twenty six one sixteen, Cooper
Flag with a twenty seven point game, Steph Currey with
(23:44):
twenty three points, and earlier the Knicks power pass. The
Cavaliers won twenty six one twenty four. Some late NFL
injury news, the Ravens have listed Lamar Jackson as doubtful
for Sunday's game against the Green Bay Packers.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Playing video games. Hey, you know what, it doesn't It
doesn't matter anymore now because.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
A video game tournament. He's in a tournament he sports,
he sports.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Robin Andy backs all right, thank you so much, Chris,
appreciate it. It is the odd couple on a Christmas night,
a TV theme song Thursday. Obviously we're playing Christmas music,
not TV themes. And we appreciate everybody being here on
this Christmas night. And he always a pleasure to work
with the legendary broadcast or miss thank Andy Furman. Yes
(24:31):
you know that, Uh but uh you're perfect to have
in here to talk about Joe Burrow and the Bengals.
And just he just doesn't sound Andy. I want to
read too much into it. You tell me you're there.
You hear way more of the sound bites and the
interviews and whatnot. He just doesn't sound happy.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
You know why, because he has cut the disease, which
is he's been bengalized he's been bengalized. Carson Palmer was bengalized,
all right, Joe Burrow is a modern day Dan Marino.
Tasted the Super Bowl once, never tasted it again, and
it was great.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Put up numbers.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
He's a I'd say Dan Marino is the godfather of
the forward pass. Passed for five thousand yards with the Dolphins,
a Hall of Fame, a great player, and Joe Burrow
is a great player.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
But you got a team. Listen to this.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
This year, the Bengals scored thirty four against the Bills
and lost. The Bengals scored forty two against the Bears
and lost. The Bengals scored thirty eight against the Jets
and lost. That doesn't make any sense. Think about that.
You put up over thirty points and lose to something wrong.
And his defense is terrible. That defense couldn't win games
if they played twelve on eleven.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
All Right.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
I'm not here to get anybody's panties in a bunch,
but I'm gonna.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Ask you this question.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Yeah, Joe Burrow is partly to blame as well, and
I'm gonna tell you why the way because he went
and told the ownership to go sign two wide receivers
and not linemen to protect him. I just like, I
get you want weapons. As a quarterback, Andy, you gotta
have people to protect you on that offensive line, Like
(26:08):
like like what, yes, no.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
I'm with you. You know what I can't have. You
gotta have both of the receivers both. You're right.
Speaker 5 (26:16):
I agree that they got Higgins and Chase and he
kind of pushed for them publicly, and I can't believe
that Mike Brown kind of took that the heart and
followed that. However, I think that they were afraid not
to do it for fear of fan backlash.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
That's why they were signed, and Burrow was the I
to push it did.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
You're right, but.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Don't you go hit to him and say, Joe, Joe,
I get it. If we do this, we won't have
money for anybody to protect you or to add defensive
pieces that we need. I told you about last year
nine touchdowns and two games against uh the Ravens. They
lost both games. That like, like, I get it. You
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want your receivers, you want your weapons, put up your numbers.
It's about winning and the sports are a short menu.
I say it a thousand times, wins and losses that's
the only thing that matters putting up big numbers, having
these two receivers, you're paying a ton of money.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
I'm just saying.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
I think he's partly the blame because he went public, and.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
I agree, And you know what, he's been very quiet lately,
and I think it may have been a good thing.
When they got shut out against the Baltimore Ravens two
weeks ago. I think it was on Thanksgiving Eve, and honestly,
he didn't say anything.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
He was a man.
Speaker 5 (27:31):
He came to the news conference after that and he
said it was my worst game as a pro. He'd
never been shut out before as a Bengal. And I
think the public realized that it's not just the defense.
You know, he's part of the problem too. And look,
he can't win by himself. And we've seen that last
year and everybody said, wellh the Bengals this year, they're
losing because Ji Wilt said, no, he wasn't hurt last year.
(27:52):
And then they made the playoffs. Did it be the
third straight year not going to the playoffs? Which is embarrassing.
It's embarrassing, it really is.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
When you have a quarterback of that ilk and you
notice and You've covered the NFL for a long time, dude,
you can't waste years. You look up one.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Day, he's twenty nine. Let me come on, go.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Back to Aaron Rodgers in Green Bay. They never Andy
his whole career. They never drafted a skilled position player
for Aaron Rodgers. Seriously, remember that defenses in the playoffs
gave up forty points.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Whatever.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
They went from winning a Super Bowl should have won
maybe two or three to never even getting back to
a super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (28:31):
Think about that. But let me ask you this. That
shows me at least how great Tom Brady was. How
many great school players did New England really have on? Yeah,
but Randy Moris right, who But.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
I'll get if you pull a curtain back and you
told me that they didn't cheat, maybe I'll buy in today.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
There's a lot of stuff they're winning.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
All I'm just saying, like, if if I had a
Hall of Fame vote, I'm not voting for Tom Brady
or Bill Belichick.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
They cheated or Gronk cheat it.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
I don't think you can achieve for that length of time.
I really they didn't achieve for that length of time.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
The first three the first three Super Bowls were about
Adam Venitari. Tom Brady wasn't Tom Brady. You know that Adam.
It was Adam Venitarian defense. But you still got to
get it down on the field. I mean, you're telling
me they're sort of scattering reports and they as the
cameras up there. I get it, But you still got
to perform on the field. You still got to do andy.
If you know what people are doing, that's half the
It's baseball. If the picture yelled out to you, If
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the picture yelled out to you, I'm throwing the fastball
right over the plate. You got a great shot. I'm
not saying you're gonna connect every single time. Look, you
know when.
Speaker 5 (29:35):
University knew what the Oregan was gonna do and they
couldn't beat Oregon.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
To all they didn't belong to. I agree. So I
don't know what are you? All right?
Speaker 1 (29:43):
So just give me your thoughts on what's gonna happen
they am. Is he gonna wind up staying there? They're
gonna get this thing fixed? Does he want to be
traded move on somewhere?
Speaker 3 (29:51):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
We're gonna say he wants to be here's an Ohio guy.
He wants to stay here. He likes it here. Uh
you know, I would think that eventually they keep on losing.
I mean, he's gonna wint out. That's what Corston Palmer did,
and he forced the hand of the Bengals and they
got rid of him. I mean he went to Arizona.
So I'd like to see him stay. I think that
they can win with him. But you know what, you
(30:15):
can win with a quarterback, not the elk of Joe
Burrow if you have great players on both sides of
the ball, and they don't. They do not book great
players at both sides of the ball. So maybe if
they could trade Joe Burrow for like six draft picks
or something like that. I don't know, what do you
do at twenty nine years of age? You know the
clock is ticking.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Really yeah, No, it's a dilemma you gotta have. We
talked about it earlier in the show. You got to
have a quarterback to win in the league, and I agree,
you got to have the other pieces. Don't get me wrong,
I understand, Like you look at the Houston Texans. They
got a chance to go to the Super Bowl because
of what their defense is. Super Bowl ready, Am I right?
They got it unbelieve it's Denver, Denver. That's the reason
(30:57):
they're winning. That defense is unbelievable. So New England to
some extent too. Defense is very very important, no doubt
about it. But without a quarterback, I don't I just
don't think you're you have a shot. And you know
that there's twenty teams in the NFL need a quarterback.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
Twenty I agree, you know, and part of the problem
of the offense to started with the ball. There are
two great receivers, no doubt, Higgins have chased a tremendous
Now they finally got this kid, Chase, who's a decent runner,
and he's done well the last several games.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
But before they had him, they couldn't run out the clock.
It's so important to have a running game.
Speaker 5 (31:32):
I know that position is kind of like, you know,
like the dinosaur's gone away. There's no more fullbacks in
the league. But the running back is such an important position,
especially when the weather gets cold, because you can't pass,
you can't see. You got to use the running game
to eat up the clock and keep the defense off
the field.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
And the Bengals don't do that. They're starting now, no
doubt about it.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Are Andy appreciated coming up a little Shop Talk to
Christmas edition of Shop Shay. We got that all ready
to go. The best Christmas or Honkkah gifts you got
this year, We'll do that and much more. It is
the Odd Couple, Rob Parker, Andy Furman and for Kelvin
Washington on this.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
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Speaker 4 (32:17):
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all right, Hey, Shae, Alex jump in with us, Chris
(33:35):
usc Chris jump in uh and the best. We want
to go around and have everybody tell us. We're gonna
start with you, Andy, the best Christmas or kanaka gift
that you got this year?
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Yes, this year? And am I right? Honakhah?
Speaker 1 (33:50):
You get one every gifts night, hey gifts?
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Right?
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Yes, but I did get it very See.
Speaker 5 (33:56):
My wife knows that I'm a little bit of an
odd ball, and she likes to get me gifts that
are kind of like off the beaten track, not in
the main highway, right. And she knows that I love
two things I really love in life besides her and
my kids, pizza and ice cream. That's why I am okay.
And in Cincinnati, we're very lucky because we have Greater's
ice cream.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
As you know, great.
Speaker 5 (34:17):
Ice cream nice, absolutely, so I love Greatest, I love
Greatest Double chocolate ship.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
I love it.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
Okay, she got me a heated ice cream scoop. Think
about that. So you get those little pints, and what
I used to do is put them in the microwave
because they're like frozen solid. Put them in there for
like forty forty five seconds, gonna melt a little bit
and scoop out the ice cream. Now I have this
self heating scoop. Put it right in there. I can
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scoop out my ice cream. How do you like that?
Speaker 3 (34:45):
That's pretty nice? I like that, Yes, very nice, very easy. Alex.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
Can I have a second to think about it?
Speaker 3 (34:54):
A little guy?
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Hell, come on, you know why he didn't get any gifts.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
That's why I did. Andy, Did I get a gift
of you being here today?
Speaker 3 (35:01):
Oh right? What about USC Chris.
Speaker 11 (35:05):
It's been a really busy year for me, so I
don't have too much. My mom did send me along
some very nice stuff. I've been kind of just working
my bartending games. So I got a knew uh, a
new measurer and one of those things that you can
like save sparkling wine keep the carbonation in it. So
that's always very good.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Yeah, I like that because I'm a guy.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
I like to drink champagne and stuff like that, so
you know, after you open the bottle, you want to
be able to preserve it for maybe another night or two,
right if you.
Speaker 11 (35:32):
Can't, Oh yeah, especially especially prosecco stuff too, like just
to save you only need a little bit prosecco if
you're doing apparol sprits or something, so you just need
to put it back and just use it for later.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Shay, what about you this year?
Speaker 6 (35:46):
Usually I don't really get good Christmas guits, but my
mom kind of surprised me this year, which was surprising.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
I got AirPod Force. Was really excited for those for
a while.
Speaker 6 (35:55):
Yeah, I haven't had hadphones for a very long time,
and like using these random wired ones that I got
at airport randomly for free airpot fours.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
Really needed to do. Okay, Alice, you need more time.
I got this. So my.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Older sister Marianne, and she has two grandkids, two grand boys, sons,
they all got me the bowls noise canceling headphones. You know,
I travel a lot and the ones that I had
are about six seven years old. The cushion in the
ears are like padded down and one day, you know,
(36:35):
I was over at their house in New York when
I was in December, and I remember her looking like,
I have my headphones on the bed or something, and
I remember her looking like really hard at them, and
I tooked to me and I was like, what are
you looking at? You know what I mean, because I
was like like that, and she had noticed that they
were kind of worn down. So when I opened that
box today, I was pleasantly surprised, because A I wanted
(37:00):
a new pair and B I needed a new pair,
so it answered both things. And those are expensive. Those
are better than any of the other headphones.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
Andy. When I get on a plane, you know, I
fly a lot, I love to be able to cancel
everything out and just hear.
Speaker 4 (37:13):
To meuts and everybody's shouting your name. So you want
to she sent personally or.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Were they sent to you?
Speaker 3 (37:18):
No, she said them she bought them, I guess, and
then you know, put them in a package and sent them.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
Well, I did mention the ninth of my sister already
got me, which was really dope. But if I have
to do a different one, I would say that I
got a very sentimental gift for my mom this year.
And she actually went out of her way to get
a very special bracelet made that was engraved with her
that said I love you my son, Always remember And
it was really cute because my mom, you know, we
start to take for granted a lot of the things
we get in life, and especially people. And if you
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put in perspective, rob and like say, like, you only
get seventy two years to live, right, it's only seventy
two Christmases you can spend with somebody, and when you
put that in perspective, it's very short. And as you
get older and time passes, we start to really much
value the things we least valued. And so it was
really cool nice to know my mom went out of
her way to get something just to say, you know,
remember me no matter where you go in life.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
You know what that is beautiful? Because did you tear
up a little bit? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (38:08):
I held it together for myself. But then she also
got my sister one and she put these really cute
cards in it. And then when I read my sister's
card and she talked about she was a little girl
in this, and then it's like that's when I kind
of tipped over.
Speaker 5 (38:18):
Those things are nice and I mean, you'll never take
it off. You'll never take that off.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
You can't.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
And you're right, Alex, Like I tweeted something earlier and
I'll stand by it. Life is about people, not things.
And that's why you like for your mom to give
you something to remind you of her or whatever. That's
what it's about. It really is. Life is about people, Andy, U.
Things are nice, but spend time with people. You don't
(38:46):
know how much time you have.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
Call people. I'm telling you, I'm I'm if you haven't
talked to You're the best at that. I try to
keep in touch, Andy, I do, don't. You're great.
Speaker 5 (38:58):
I will tell you this next chriss on getting you
a bracelet with my name on it, that I love you.
Speaker 4 (39:03):
Really, I would love one from you, Andy, not you
you got one are ready for your mom?
Speaker 9 (39:08):
Right?
Speaker 4 (39:09):
But you know what's what's crazy is uh, you want
to be able to spend time with people if you can.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
So every time when I go to different cities or whatever, Like,
people see me at games all the time and I'm
with six or eight people and you go, my god,
you know, or I'm having lunch with ten people.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
Andy.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
When I go to Cincinnati, Oh, it's a crowd it's
a crowd. We've had lunch with right ten twelve people.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
Andy Wan wonderful, it really is. It is.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
And we all get to get together and go out
to eat and reminisce.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
And I just try to keep a touch through the
mail I send.
Speaker 4 (39:46):
I send stuff all the time. I know, I get stuff.
You know what's by a time.
Speaker 5 (39:49):
Man.
Speaker 4 (39:49):
You used to write us letters, but I haven't seen
those lately.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
I still do, but I guess you're off the list.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
Oh my, you know what I do want to say.
I've got nothing to say to you, really, yeah, you know, No,
that's fine. You know I just didn't work on your
show a long time ago that I have sent Chris
all the time. Now I know your favorite.
Speaker 5 (40:05):
I don't have favorites. I just if this, if it
hits me, I send it out, all right, that's it.
First of all, I don't send it to you. I'll
tell you why. I can't spell your name, all right.
Your name is like a freaking I chart. Really, I
can't spell your last name all right.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
Last of the program coming
Speaker 4 (40:20):
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Andy Furman in for Kelvin Washington, the Cincinnati radio legend.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Indeed, my good friend.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
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Speaker 3 (01:15):
Also, we got a little shop talk.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
We're gonna get into best Christmas Hanukah gifts this year.
I'm gonna say this Alex and Andy and Shaye, this
is how you know the gift you got is awesome.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Tell me why, because.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
I'm wearing it. I'm wearing it right now. My friends
Karen and Gary Jordan, I went to college with them.
In fact, they were at Southern Connecticut when they dedicated
to press box. I've been We've been friends, Andy for
forty years, you know. And the thing that's strange or
weird or different is that I knew Karen and individually,
(02:01):
and I knew Gary separately, and then they got together
like very seldom. You're usually friends with one or the other,
you know what I mean, and you become friends with
their partner or their you know, they've been married for
a long time. But I know them separately, and we
all went to a party they met, and that's and
then they wound up going to college, graduating and all that.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
And stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
But they bought me this Eddie Bauer ten vess puffy vesque,
not too big though, you know, for California, Andy beautiful.
If you go on social media on either my Twitter,
Rob Parker, MLB bro or Instagram the same, you'll be
able to see it.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
And Alex, you saw it as soon as I walked in.
What'd you say?
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Beautiful fits you perfectly color coordination's great.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
You know I love brown.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Yeah, I just couldn't believe you actually just got it.
That's how you know it meant something.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Put it on immediately, I'm like, oh, this is too
nice looking, Andy. So you know that when you get
a gift that you really like, you normally don't let
it sit around. You're like, oh, no, I'm using it.
And Alex, you got to, Well, you got something from
your sister, didn't you today.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
Yeah, she got me one of those like very viral
fun knives that people use in the outdoors world. They're
like a big, almost kind of like small butcher looking
knife and they've used it on these really cool flat rocks.
My sister knew I talked about that like a long
time ago, so she got it for me. Ainsley went outside,
set up my juicing machine and use it the entire time.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
And that and that's another one.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
You knew that know, this is something I really want
to use and I really like so uh yeah, And
we'll get into that later on in the hour. We'll
talk about the best Honukah gift you got, Andy and
Christmas gifts Shay and Alex, and we'll do more of
that coming up.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Later on in the hour, but first we want to.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
Go to college me for one second, because this is
on my mind now and I'm gonna figure out because
all those things I lose.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Trade the Tenton's thought.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
You were talking about the situation with Charles Barkley kind
of calling the NBA guys the NFL got pigs, right, right?
I love Why is Charles Barkley the only guy with
a pair of hanging downs to attack the NFL. Why
aren't the other owners saying anything? Why aren't players saying it?
I don't get why is the only Charles I love him.
I love Charles Barkley because he fears no one. He
fears no one.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
And I like, here's how relevant and powerful that Charles
Barkley is.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
And I've known him.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
I covered him, you know, Andy, back in the days
when I was an NBA reporter, back in the Daily
News in New York back in the eighties. Okay, so
I've been around Charles for a long time now. I
didn't cover him every day, but I covered the NBA
during enough time. And my point is this, when you know,
like the players don't like Charles, that's all you need
to know, because at first they used to get on us. Andy, Oh, well,
(04:33):
you guys didn't play. You don't know whatever, Your opinion
doesn't matter. Then when Charles came out and doing his thing,
they hate him, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
So basically they just don't want to be criticized. But
Charles doesn't care.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
And the idea that the players don't like Charles Barkley
tells you all you need to know how good, strong
and powerful he is.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Okay, let's go through the owner's Then why don't the
owners say anything? I don't get it.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
They're not gonna say anything. What are you gonna say?
But I just I hear them. I mean, the NFL
is all over the place, and all they.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Keep doing is they want they would want to be
on and people don't understand this. The only reason they're
doing it is if they lump all the games together
on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
There's only but so much money you.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Get every time you break a game off and make
it a national game. Andy, they gotta pay a ton
of money. That's why. That's the only reason. That's why
they have Thursday Night Football, That's why they on Netflix
and all these other plays because they pay premium to
be the only game. They don't care about CBS, right
or Fox. They don't because those are regional games. Those
(05:39):
are regional. You're only seeing them in particular areas. These
are national games, and that's what they want. But anyway,
let's go here, Shay, college basketball, Andy, this is up
your alley. You know, Cincinnati is a great college basketball town.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Used to be. Okay, used to be. But this this
story is interesting.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
A lot of people I've seen on social media, they
got their panties in a bunch ovid this, But Jay
tell us what's going on?
Speaker 6 (06:02):
So yeah, this is going over to Baylor. Former NBA
draft pick James Nausey is reported to have joined the
Bears after playing in Europe for a little bit. Former
Detroit Pistons second round pick, he he he was picked
at thirty one and he'll be playing the second half
of the season with the Bears. He's actually granted four
(06:23):
years of eligibility by the NCAA and the Nigerian twenty
one year old big man was selected thirty first over
on the twenty twenty three NBA draft and.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
His rights were moved to Charlotte.
Speaker 6 (06:37):
Despite being drafted, he never signed a standard NBA contract,
but in twenty twenty four, his rights were moved once again,
this time to the New York Knicks as part of
the three team Karling Anthony Towns trade. Now he's just
kind of just been stagnant, and now he will be
playing for the Baylor Bears in the second half of
the season.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
What do you guys think?
Speaker 6 (06:56):
Is this all right? Did the NCAA do the right
thing for him? Is this something that you could see
happening a lot more?
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Rob Let me know, I'm gonna say this, Andy, I
have no issue with it. The NCAA was so bad, Andy,
you remember this in the old days, if you even
put your name in to the NBA draft, you remember
your eligibility was stripped from you, even if you didn't
get drafted, even if you didn't sign with an agents
(07:25):
exactly how and then guys wouldn't get picked or whatever.
They wouldn't let him come back to school. This kid
has not played one minute of NBA basketball. He either
he hasn't, so why wouldn't he be able to come
back and go back to college and finish and play
college basketball. I think this is straight and right, and
(07:49):
the NCAA gets so many things wrong.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Andy. I think They're right on this.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
If that kid had played one minute for the Pistons
or the Knicks or Charlotte or whoever he was with, then
obviously he can't go and.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Play college I'll play college basketball.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Look at all these older players now playing college football
got eligibility.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
They're twenty eight years old, twenty six years old, right,
you know, it's an interesting situation. I'll tell you why.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
Because the fact that he'd never played, he never sun
a contract with the NBA says he never became a
court professional. However, less summery played in the summer League
for the Knicks, whatever that means. But obviously he had
to get paid, so he was a coote professional. The
problem being, and you're gonna go back in time, if
this was fifteen twenty years ago, he wouldn't be able
to play in college. The reason why he can play,
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more than any other reason, not because he didn't sign
a contract. Because right now the NCAA is afraid of lawsuits.
Everybody's sueing everybody else. That's the only reason he's gonna
be able to play for Baylor. I gotta believe that.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Yeah, I think that if he hasn't played, when you
look up when you look up the NBA and people
who have played in the league, his name's not on
the list.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
He didn't play a real game, Andy.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Well, does summer league? Does that count?
Speaker 3 (09:04):
No? No, no, it doesn't count. It doesn't. He didn't get paid.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
I don't know what the standard is or what the
because he never signed a contract, so I don't know
exactly if he was really considered a professional athlete. There's
a loophole because he didn't sign an NBA contract or
playing a game. I think he still has his status.
I don't have an issue with this.
Speaker 5 (09:27):
I know a lot of people I don't really care,
and I'll be honest you, I have more of a
problem of when the NBA was signing kids out of
high school that I.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Think is worse. I really do. But Andy, I'll disagree
with you, and I'm gonna tell you why.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
No other place on earth would you punish a prodigy.
If you had a fourteen year old kid who was
a concert pianist and she could play in Carnegie Hall,
not one person would stand in her way and say,
what are.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
You doing here? But that's you. I agree. Let me
give you another one on the call.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Okay, kids graduate college, Andy at fifteen, sixteen years old,
because you're brilliant. You don't say you got to stay
in middle school or whatever because you're fourteen.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
You're a genius, you've done all the work. You don't
stay there. You know what you're doing.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
You graduate college at fifteen, Go look it up. There's
plenty of people. Nobody stops a prodigy. And that's my point.
If you're a prodigy Lebron James or somebody, and you're
able to play even though you're young, you should be
able to play. Nobody stopped McCauley Coughland. What was his name,
(10:35):
what's his last name?
Speaker 4 (10:36):
Cally Cookland Right, McAuley, cochin Culkin.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Thank you, you're welcome.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Please, you're welcome.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Anybody stop him from going to make home alone? Andy,
He not an adult. But there's a big difference. Well
what is it.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
The difference is you're comparing mental prowess against physical ability.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
No, I'm talking about No.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
You would not take a high school kid and put
him in the NFL, even if he wasn't prodigy because prodigity,
because he he can't play physically with a twenty five
year old guy, Candy, Andy physically.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
I disagree, and I'm gonna tell you why. First of all,
it has to be on an individual basis. And I
don't know if you've seen some of these twenty nineteen twenty.
When I met Lebron James in high school, he looked
like a man to me, and now he was in
high school. I'll never forget I met him at the
Palace of Auburn Hills. Behind it was just me, Lebron
James and world Wide West, nobody else. I was standing
(11:32):
face to face with him and I could not believe
he was in high school. Okay, how his size and everything.
There are exceptions to the rule, most but that's not
the onners of the kids. That's the onus of the team.
If he's not ready or not physical, then yes, Andy,
don't draft him.
Speaker 5 (11:48):
All these told tell you why. I remember seeing Dave
Newmark in high school. He went to Lincoln High School
in Brooklyn. He was seven feet tall, and he kind
of fizzled out in the NBA. So so it goes
both ways.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Right, Yeah, I'm not saying that that just because you're
I'm saying no one should be denied an opportunity to work.
This is me If someone is willing to pay you.
I don't care who it is. If somebody says, I
know you're sixteen or I know that. Look at all
the guys who get hurt in the NFL. Those are
grown men. They still get hurt. It has nothing to
(12:22):
do with that. Then, So the grown men go and
they get hurt. You're gonna get hurt in the NFL
because of the nature of the game. It's part of
the business exactly. The only reason that they keep the
kids out is so that the colleges can make money
off of them, and it has nothing to do with
their well being. And you don't believe that for one second.
Speaker 5 (12:39):
I still believe it's college freshman, no matter how talented
he may be.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
I'm not talking about talent, but physical. There are guys
who are unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
They're on guys you've seen nothing far between the few
and far between.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
That's a prodigy. That's why I said a prodigy. Okay,
all right, okay, you see.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
What I'm saying. It's got to be a lot. We
don't see it often, but the NFL.
Speaker 5 (12:57):
You cannot go there until you have at least three
years a college, right, Isn't that the rule all that.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
But that's that's the made up rule that they have.
I mean that right.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
I mean you could go play golf at fourteen, you know,
it's just all made up. You can go to Minor
League Baseball and all that. The only thing they did Lincoln.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
Has it right is the MSL because they got fourteen
year old kids playing in.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Major League Soccer. Of course LS.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
I'm sorry, right, And there's no reason not to if
they're talented in that way, all right? Eight seven to
seven ninety nine on Fox, We do want to hear
about the James Naji just Baylor?
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Is this crazy? Is this my sugar? Nat Andy?
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Is this eleven?
Speaker 1 (13:33):
He's big? Is this crazy? Because he did play in
the summer League. Did the NCAA finally get it right?
I think they did? And he doesn't think they got
it right. We want to hear from you. Eight seven
seven ninety nine on Fox. It is the odd couple
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Speaker 1 (15:48):
A lot to get to in this final I mean,
in this second hour of the program. If you want
to jump in on this, do it. Eight seven, seven
ninety nine on Fox, we're talking about James Nasee, who
never was drafted in the NFL NBA, I should say,
but never played Andy and is going to play for
(16:10):
bailor they gave him four years of eligibility because he
did not play in a real NBA game. Are you
on the side of the NCAA and you agree with
this I do?
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Or are you against this saying that No, Andy's against it.
I'm for it because he's a pro.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
It's not about the NBA. He's a pro he played
in Turkey. He's a pro. Well, the NBA can signed
play is from Turkey. They're pros, right, he is a pro.
He got paid to play. Do you remember Andrew Gaye
who played for was that Michigan State? What's cool was
he with the twenty six year old made all those threes?
(16:46):
Remember that he came from Australia, Andrew Gays look it up.
I'm just saying he played in Australia. Like they don't
recognize the same as being in an NBA. He was
twenty six years off.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
I remember.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
But anyway, where are you falling on this? Eight seven,
seven ninety nine on Fox? Let's do it, Mark and Sacramento.
You're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio. I knew
my man would call on Christmas. Merry Christmas to you.
Speaker 9 (17:09):
And yours Mark, welcome mister fulman. And of course I
was going to call you. You know, we got a thing
going since you had this show. What's going on?
Speaker 10 (17:17):
Nine years now?
Speaker 9 (17:17):
Eight nine years.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Yep, eight plus years, unbelievable yep going on.
Speaker 9 (17:22):
So yeah, so, so Marry Christmas.
Speaker 10 (17:24):
Rob.
Speaker 9 (17:24):
You know I had to do it. First of all,
I want to say, I want to say Christmas belongs
to the NBA. I don't care what the NFL does.
They're trying to go seven days week that they can
because it's so greedy, so they're just going to over
securi the svies. Eventually, I had to say that about that.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
That's what happens. Do you remember Andy, who wants to
be a millionaire? You remember that that show with Regis?
Speaker 3 (17:44):
It was hot? Yes, and what did the ABC do?
They put it on three nights a week and killed.
Speaker 5 (17:49):
The christ Let's is more. They pitched, but less is more.
They killed the self all that. Yep, they killed the show.
Speaker 9 (17:56):
And this is football. How much can the body take
up Tuesday, Thursday, Friday.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Look at all the injuries, Mark, look at all the
injuries and still't forget.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
They're gonna go to eighteen games soon too?
Speaker 10 (18:09):
Yeah that too.
Speaker 9 (18:10):
They just they want another penny. He's got the so
greedy man. They can't help it any pen they can find.
So I had to say that about those greedy suckers.
And as far as the kid going back, I think
it's time he finally got something right, Andy, I'm sorry.
I hate the NCAA rules. There's been one hundred years
of them taking it better your kids. Yes, don't give
(18:30):
me this professional stuff either. Everything's the professional now they
can't use their name. I don't want to hear that
pro stuff anymore.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
Well, you know what, you kind of hit on something there,
because if you go to college nil and they're getting
the paycheck, I thincuse you're considered.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
The pro then too.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
There you go right right.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
They're saying they still have amateur status despite money. That's
why I think they can't keep this kid out. Andy
they what makes the pro? What makes it pro? Tell
me what?
Speaker 3 (18:55):
No, you gotta play.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
You gotta play the professional league, I think is the
only once you get there.
Speaker 9 (19:00):
Yeah, they have to play. The other thing is that
you know the think about the word code. You'll have
to try that for a while. But look what they've
done now. Then I'll pay the athletes. And that was
the original amateurs. But that those guys get paid yep,
crazy guys get paid now. So I mean we need
to look at this. The stupid rude that you say,
hold it on because they've had these kids for one hundred.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Years using them unbelievable.
Speaker 10 (19:24):
I'm thinking of UCAA.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
I am no, I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
March thank you, Mark, appreciate it. Merry Christmas to you
and yours. Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Is to deal with these people? What are they drinking?
Speaker 1 (19:37):
I don't get it, don't worry about it, and you
don't lost eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox. Geez,
Dick and Dayton, you're on the odd couple of Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
What's up, Dick, This is my guy, This is my guy.
Different dates we're doing, Dick, Mary, Chrisndy.
Speaker 10 (19:53):
I just wanted to tell you last week I saw
Joe Burrow looked pretty darn good and they got two
more games that I'm thinking maybe they could end up
seven and ten. But Joe Burrow last week where I talked, played.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
Pretty well touchdowns foot touchdowns against the bad team, and
they're not going to the playoffs. So I think, I
hate to, you know, blow up your bubble, but that's
the way it is.
Speaker 10 (20:14):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think the Browns myself, they
need to get Sepharnski out, we get a new coordinator
because they're just losing too many games, too many games. Guys.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
All right, thank you, Dick and Dayton. We appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox if you want
to jump in uh to me, I think I think
it's uh. With the way the nil is andy and
the money, I think it's impossible for them to keep
this kid out.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
They're paying, right, but I still think the NCAA is
afraid of a lawsuit. That's what it's about. They're right,
but I know they're paying people.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
I know that.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
So so that was you're telling me that if a
kid is a sophomore in college getting nil money and
he's good enough skill wise to play in the NBA,
goes to the NBA, plays the NBA, and then.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Decides like no, no, no, he wasn't playing enough. Could
you go back?
Speaker 5 (21:08):
No? I mean, really, once you sign up this kid,
the kid he signed, he played pro in Turkey, He's
going back.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
He didn't go to bail it.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
He didn't sign a professional contract in the United States.
I'm telling the United States. Okay, So the United States then, okay.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
That's the only jurisdiction you have, like right, like I
would think, I'm telling you look it up, Shay Andrew Gaze.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
I don't know where he played. I wanted.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
I don't know why I want to say, did he
play a Seaton Hall of Michigan State. He was a
three point specialist at Andrew Gaze and he was from Australia.
I want to say he was twenty six years old
playing college basketball something like that, and I think he
played you know, maybe you know, Australian basketball. But he
didn't have any he didn't eat up his college eligibility,
(21:50):
like there was some loophole if I remember correctly. But anyway, Uh,
it's so much. We could still get into that, but
we're going to talk about your guy Joe Burrow, who
doesn't sound happy being in Cincinnati. I don't know what's
going on with him. And I want to get your
take on Joe Burrow and the frustrations and just the
(22:11):
way he sounds. He doesn't sound happy. We'll do that
much more before let's get you caught up USC. Chris
is in. He's got your sports update.
Speaker 11 (22:22):
All right, guys, We've got the Broncos on the board
against the Kansas City Chiefs. Kansas City, Kansas very soon
three nothing. Denver started with a field goal. This is
the first time now the Chiefs have touched the ball.
Chris Ola Dokun under center for the Chiefs, as Gardner,
Minshew and Patrick Mahomes are both out. Earlier in the NFL,
(22:45):
we saw the Lions go down to the Vikings twenty
three to ten the finals score. This eliminates the Lions
from playoff contention and also clinches a playoff berth.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Can I say the Green Bay Packers, I'm sorry about that. Sorry, Chris,
It's whatever. This season's a wash. They took you. Guys
were talking about injuries earlier.
Speaker 11 (23:02):
We're not talking enough about how much of a rotating
door the offensive line was. There maybe one starter from
last year on that line here today. It's kind of
a mess across the entire board. They've got a lot
to fix up this offseason. The Cowboys defeated the Commanders
with a thirty to twenty three victory and Tomahawks stakes
(23:22):
to share between Dak Prescott and his wide receiver after
that on hard court, Currently, with four minutes to go
in the first quarter, Houston Rockets with a twenty five
sixteen lead on the Los Angeles Lakers. Earlier, Mavericks were
defeated by the Warriors one twenty six one sixteen, Cooper
Flag with a twenty seven point game, Steph Currey with
(23:44):
twenty three points, and earlier the Knicks power pass. The
Cavaliers won twenty six one twenty four. Some late NFL
injury news, the Ravens have listed Lamar Jackson as doubtful
for Sunday's game against the Green Bay Packers.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Playing video games. Hey, you know what, it doesn't It
doesn't matter anymore now because.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
A video game tournament. He's in a tournament he sports,
he sports.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Robin Andy backs all right, thank you so much, Chris,
appreciate it. It is the odd couple on a Christmas night,
a TV theme song Thursday. Obviously we're playing Christmas music,
not TV themes. And we appreciate everybody being here on
this Christmas night. And he always a pleasure to work
with the legendary broadcast or miss thank Andy Furman. Yes
(24:31):
you know that, Uh but uh you're perfect to have
in here to talk about Joe Burrow and the Bengals.
And just he just doesn't sound Andy. I want to
read too much into it. You tell me you're there.
You hear way more of the sound bites and the
interviews and whatnot. He just doesn't sound happy.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
You know why, because he has cut the disease, which
is he's been bengalized he's been bengalized. Carson Palmer was bengalized,
all right, Joe Burrow is a modern day Dan Marino.
Tasted the Super Bowl once, never tasted it again, and
it was great.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Put up numbers.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
He's a I'd say Dan Marino is the godfather of
the forward pass. Passed for five thousand yards with the Dolphins,
a Hall of Fame, a great player, and Joe Burrow
is a great player.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
But you got a team. Listen to this.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
This year, the Bengals scored thirty four against the Bills
and lost. The Bengals scored forty two against the Bears
and lost. The Bengals scored thirty eight against the Jets
and lost. That doesn't make any sense. Think about that.
You put up over thirty points and lose to something wrong.
And his defense is terrible. That defense couldn't win games
if they played twelve on eleven.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
All Right.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
I'm not here to get anybody's panties in a bunch,
but I'm gonna.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Ask you this question.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Yeah, Joe Burrow is partly to blame as well, and
I'm gonna tell you why the way because he went
and told the ownership to go sign two wide receivers
and not linemen to protect him. I just like, I
get you want weapons. As a quarterback, Andy, you gotta
have people to protect you on that offensive line, Like
(26:08):
like like what, yes, no.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
I'm with you. You know what I can't have. You
gotta have both of the receivers both. You're right.
Speaker 5 (26:16):
I agree that they got Higgins and Chase and he
kind of pushed for them publicly, and I can't believe
that Mike Brown kind of took that the heart and
followed that. However, I think that they were afraid not
to do it for fear of fan backlash.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
That's why they were signed, and Burrow was the I
to push it did.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
You're right, but.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Don't you go hit to him and say, Joe, Joe,
I get it. If we do this, we won't have
money for anybody to protect you or to add defensive
pieces that we need. I told you about last year
nine touchdowns and two games against uh the Ravens. They
lost both games. That like, like, I get it. You
(26:56):
want your receivers, you want your weapons, put up your numbers.
It's about winning and the sports are a short menu.
I say it a thousand times, wins and losses that's
the only thing that matters putting up big numbers, having
these two receivers, you're paying a ton of money.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
I'm just saying.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
I think he's partly the blame because he went public, and.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
I agree, And you know what, he's been very quiet lately,
and I think it may have been a good thing.
When they got shut out against the Baltimore Ravens two
weeks ago. I think it was on Thanksgiving Eve, and honestly,
he didn't say anything.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
He was a man.
Speaker 5 (27:31):
He came to the news conference after that and he
said it was my worst game as a pro. He'd
never been shut out before as a Bengal. And I
think the public realized that it's not just the defense.
You know, he's part of the problem too. And look,
he can't win by himself. And we've seen that last
year and everybody said, wellh the Bengals this year, they're
losing because Ji Wilt said, no, he wasn't hurt last year.
(27:52):
And then they made the playoffs. Did it be the
third straight year not going to the playoffs? Which is embarrassing.
It's embarrassing, it really is.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
When you have a quarterback of that ilk and you
notice and You've covered the NFL for a long time, dude,
you can't waste years. You look up one.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Day, he's twenty nine. Let me come on, go.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Back to Aaron Rodgers in Green Bay. They never Andy
his whole career. They never drafted a skilled position player
for Aaron Rodgers. Seriously, remember that defenses in the playoffs
gave up forty points.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Whatever.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
They went from winning a Super Bowl should have won
maybe two or three to never even getting back to
a super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (28:31):
Think about that. But let me ask you this. That
shows me at least how great Tom Brady was. How
many great school players did New England really have on? Yeah,
but Randy Moris right, who But.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
I'll get if you pull a curtain back and you
told me that they didn't cheat, maybe I'll buy in today.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
There's a lot of stuff they're winning.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
All I'm just saying, like, if if I had a
Hall of Fame vote, I'm not voting for Tom Brady
or Bill Belichick.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
They cheated or Gronk cheat it.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
I don't think you can achieve for that length of time.
I really they didn't achieve for that length of time.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
The first three the first three Super Bowls were about
Adam Venitari. Tom Brady wasn't Tom Brady. You know that Adam.
It was Adam Venitarian defense. But you still got to
get it down on the field. I mean, you're telling
me they're sort of scattering reports and they as the
cameras up there. I get it, But you still got
to perform on the field. You still got to do andy.
If you know what people are doing, that's half the
It's baseball. If the picture yelled out to you, If
(29:26):
the picture yelled out to you, I'm throwing the fastball
right over the plate. You got a great shot. I'm
not saying you're gonna connect every single time. Look, you
know when.
Speaker 5 (29:35):
University knew what the Oregan was gonna do and they
couldn't beat Oregon.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
To all they didn't belong to. I agree. So I
don't know what are you? All right?
Speaker 1 (29:43):
So just give me your thoughts on what's gonna happen
they am. Is he gonna wind up staying there? They're
gonna get this thing fixed? Does he want to be
traded move on somewhere?
Speaker 3 (29:51):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
We're gonna say he wants to be here's an Ohio guy.
He wants to stay here. He likes it here. Uh
you know, I would think that eventually they keep on losing.
I mean, he's gonna wint out. That's what Corston Palmer did,
and he forced the hand of the Bengals and they
got rid of him. I mean he went to Arizona.
So I'd like to see him stay. I think that
they can win with him. But you know what, you
(30:15):
can win with a quarterback, not the elk of Joe
Burrow if you have great players on both sides of
the ball, and they don't. They do not book great
players at both sides of the ball. So maybe if
they could trade Joe Burrow for like six draft picks
or something like that. I don't know, what do you
do at twenty nine years of age? You know the
clock is ticking.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Really yeah, No, it's a dilemma you gotta have. We
talked about it earlier in the show. You got to
have a quarterback to win in the league, and I agree,
you got to have the other pieces. Don't get me wrong,
I understand, Like you look at the Houston Texans. They
got a chance to go to the Super Bowl because
of what their defense is. Super Bowl ready, Am I right?
They got it unbelieve it's Denver, Denver. That's the reason
(30:57):
they're winning. That defense is unbelievable. So New England to
some extent too. Defense is very very important, no doubt
about it. But without a quarterback, I don't I just
don't think you're you have a shot. And you know
that there's twenty teams in the NFL need a quarterback.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
Twenty I agree, you know, and part of the problem
of the offense to started with the ball. There are
two great receivers, no doubt, Higgins have chased a tremendous
Now they finally got this kid, Chase, who's a decent runner,
and he's done well the last several games.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
But before they had him, they couldn't run out the clock.
It's so important to have a running game.
Speaker 5 (31:32):
I know that position is kind of like, you know,
like the dinosaur's gone away. There's no more fullbacks in
the league. But the running back is such an important position,
especially when the weather gets cold, because you can't pass,
you can't see. You got to use the running game
to eat up the clock and keep the defense off
the field.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
And the Bengals don't do that. They're starting now, no
doubt about it.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Are Andy appreciated coming up a little Shop Talk to
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this year, We'll do that and much more. It is
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Speaker 3 (32:46):
Give me the money shot.
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Shade's working on it as we speak.
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all right, Hey, Shae, Alex jump in with us, Chris
(33:35):
usc Chris jump in uh and the best. We want
to go around and have everybody tell us. We're gonna
start with you, Andy, the best Christmas or kanaka gift
that you got this year?
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Yes, this year? And am I right? Honakhah?
Speaker 1 (33:50):
You get one every gifts night, hey gifts?
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Right?
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Yes, but I did get it very See.
Speaker 5 (33:56):
My wife knows that I'm a little bit of an
odd ball, and she likes to get me gifts that
are kind of like off the beaten track, not in
the main highway, right. And she knows that I love
two things I really love in life besides her and
my kids, pizza and ice cream. That's why I am okay.
And in Cincinnati, we're very lucky because we have Greater's
ice cream.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
As you know, great.
Speaker 5 (34:17):
Ice cream nice, absolutely, so I love Greatest, I love
Greatest Double chocolate ship.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
I love it.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
Okay, she got me a heated ice cream scoop. Think
about that. So you get those little pints, and what
I used to do is put them in the microwave
because they're like frozen solid. Put them in there for
like forty forty five seconds, gonna melt a little bit
and scoop out the ice cream. Now I have this
self heating scoop. Put it right in there. I can
(34:43):
scoop out my ice cream. How do you like that?
Speaker 3 (34:45):
That's pretty nice? I like that, Yes, very nice, very easy. Alex.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
Can I have a second to think about it?
Speaker 3 (34:54):
A little guy?
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Hell, come on, you know why he didn't get any gifts.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
That's why I did. Andy, Did I get a gift
of you being here today?
Speaker 3 (35:01):
Oh right? What about USC Chris.
Speaker 11 (35:05):
It's been a really busy year for me, so I
don't have too much. My mom did send me along
some very nice stuff. I've been kind of just working
my bartending games. So I got a knew uh, a
new measurer and one of those things that you can
like save sparkling wine keep the carbonation in it. So
that's always very good.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Yeah, I like that because I'm a guy.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
I like to drink champagne and stuff like that, so
you know, after you open the bottle, you want to
be able to preserve it for maybe another night or two,
right if you.
Speaker 11 (35:32):
Can't, Oh yeah, especially especially prosecco stuff too, like just
to save you only need a little bit prosecco if
you're doing apparol sprits or something, so you just need
to put it back and just use it for later.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Shay, what about you this year?
Speaker 6 (35:46):
Usually I don't really get good Christmas guits, but my
mom kind of surprised me this year, which was surprising.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
I got AirPod Force. Was really excited for those for
a while.
Speaker 6 (35:55):
Yeah, I haven't had hadphones for a very long time,
and like using these random wired ones that I got
at airport randomly for free airpot fours.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
Really needed to do. Okay, Alice, you need more time.
I got this. So my.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Older sister Marianne, and she has two grandkids, two grand boys, sons,
they all got me the bowls noise canceling headphones. You know,
I travel a lot and the ones that I had
are about six seven years old. The cushion in the
ears are like padded down and one day, you know,
(36:35):
I was over at their house in New York when
I was in December, and I remember her looking like,
I have my headphones on the bed or something, and
I remember her looking like really hard at them, and
I tooked to me and I was like, what are
you looking at? You know what I mean, because I
was like like that, and she had noticed that they
were kind of worn down. So when I opened that
box today, I was pleasantly surprised, because A I wanted
(37:00):
a new pair and B I needed a new pair,
so it answered both things. And those are expensive. Those
are better than any of the other headphones.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
Andy. When I get on a plane, you know, I
fly a lot, I love to be able to cancel
everything out and just hear.
Speaker 4 (37:13):
To meuts and everybody's shouting your name. So you want
to she sent personally or.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Were they sent to you?
Speaker 3 (37:18):
No, she said them she bought them, I guess, and
then you know, put them in a package and sent them.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
Well, I did mention the ninth of my sister already
got me, which was really dope. But if I have
to do a different one, I would say that I
got a very sentimental gift for my mom this year.
And she actually went out of her way to get
a very special bracelet made that was engraved with her
that said I love you my son, Always remember And
it was really cute because my mom, you know, we
start to take for granted a lot of the things
we get in life, and especially people. And if you
(37:45):
put in perspective, rob and like say, like, you only
get seventy two years to live, right, it's only seventy
two Christmases you can spend with somebody, and when you
put that in perspective, it's very short. And as you
get older and time passes, we start to really much
value the things we least valued. And so it was
really cool nice to know my mom went out of
her way to get something just to say, you know,
remember me no matter where you go in life.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
You know what that is beautiful? Because did you tear
up a little bit? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (38:08):
I held it together for myself. But then she also
got my sister one and she put these really cute
cards in it. And then when I read my sister's
card and she talked about she was a little girl
in this, and then it's like that's when I kind
of tipped over.
Speaker 5 (38:18):
Those things are nice and I mean, you'll never take
it off. You'll never take that off.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
You can't.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
And you're right, Alex, Like I tweeted something earlier and
I'll stand by it. Life is about people, not things.
And that's why you like for your mom to give
you something to remind you of her or whatever. That's
what it's about. It really is. Life is about people, Andy, U.
Things are nice, but spend time with people. You don't
(38:46):
know how much time you have.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
Call people. I'm telling you, I'm I'm if you haven't
talked to You're the best at that. I try to
keep in touch, Andy, I do, don't. You're great.
Speaker 5 (38:58):
I will tell you this next chriss on getting you
a bracelet with my name on it, that I love you.
Speaker 4 (39:03):
Really, I would love one from you, Andy, not you
you got one are ready for your mom?
Speaker 9 (39:08):
Right?
Speaker 4 (39:09):
But you know what's what's crazy is uh, you want
to be able to spend time with people if you can.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
So every time when I go to different cities or whatever, Like,
people see me at games all the time and I'm
with six or eight people and you go, my god,
you know, or I'm having lunch with ten people.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
Andy.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
When I go to Cincinnati, Oh, it's a crowd it's
a crowd. We've had lunch with right ten twelve people.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
Andy Wan wonderful, it really is. It is.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
And we all get to get together and go out
to eat and reminisce.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
And I just try to keep a touch through the
mail I send.
Speaker 4 (39:46):
I send stuff all the time. I know, I get stuff.
You know what's by a time.
Speaker 5 (39:49):
Man.
Speaker 4 (39:49):
You used to write us letters, but I haven't seen
those lately.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
I still do, but I guess you're off the list.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
Oh my, you know what I do want to say.
I've got nothing to say to you, really, yeah, you know, No,
that's fine. You know I just didn't work on your
show a long time ago that I have sent Chris
all the time. Now I know your favorite.
Speaker 5 (40:05):
I don't have favorites. I just if this, if it
hits me, I send it out, all right, that's it.
First of all, I don't send it to you. I'll
tell you why. I can't spell your name, all right.
Your name is like a freaking I chart. Really, I
can't spell your last name all right.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
Last of the program coming
Speaker 4 (40:20):
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