December 20, 2024 • 38 mins
Rob and Kelvin explain why JJ Redick is dead wrong when he says media outlets like Inside the NBA are to blame for the NBA’s dwindling TV ratings and tell us why Michael Vick should be applauded for turning his life around after the dog fighting incident all those years ago. Plus, former NFL quarterback and FOX Sports Radio NFL analyst Shaun King swings by to discuss all the biggest college football and NFL headlines.
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Speaker 1 (01:10):
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Speaker 4 (01:16):
It's right, Kevin. You know the NBA continues to be
a hot topic.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Yeah, I mean, listen you have.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
It's funny how when these things become a thing, Rob,
they kind of make their way around, you know, the rounds,
and everybody's having these conversations, including Lebron recently, who is
talked about. He believes the three point ball has been
a massive reason why the game has become unwatchable to
so many. You and I have talked about the ratings
(01:47):
down twenty percent year of a year, forty eight percent
the last twelve years.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
That's all hitty number.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
Since crazy forty eight is crazy, I mean half you
would just think now again, I believe they are multiple facts,
but JJ Reddick believes another one of those things would
be all the folks like you and I, but especially
it seems as if he's talking about inside the NBA
UH and their criticism of the game.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Here's what JJ had to say. I don't think we
as we I was part of it. We as the
sort of.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
National partners have done a good job of storytelling, of
celebrating the game. If I'm a casual fan and you
tell me every time I turn on the television.
Speaker 6 (02:30):
That the product sucks, well I'm not going to watch
the product.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
It's simple for there, Can I start?
Speaker 4 (02:38):
Yeah, go ahead, Because I think JJ Reddick is full
of cocky, full of thank you he's full of poppy
because he's full of it because they're giving us way
too much credit.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Okay, the inside the NBA.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
The reason actually why it's so popular and why it's
done so well.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
For a long time is because they are honest. You
know what people don't watch.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
People don't watch your local postgame shows where it's raw,
raw home team.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
That's what people don't watch.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Where I'm gonna watch my team get blown out and
you're gonna tell me a story about how they were
in the game for the first three minutes and how
they can build off of that next week, next game
or whatever. That's not what people want to hear. That's
not the reason. It has nothing to do with Charles Barkley,
Shaquille O'Neill, Kenny Smith zero.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
The reason people aren't watching is the quality of the game.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
And I respect Charles Barkley and those guys and TNT
for being honest with the fans. It is a nationally
acclaimed show.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Everyone's tried to copy it.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
What they can't copy is the authenticity of the comments
about what's going on in front of you you're watching.
They have not always been bashing the product, have they able.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
The last few years. Yes they have, and rightfully.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
So they're talking about why the ratings are down like
this because the product stinks. Don't give the messenger all
this credit. That old Charles Barkley says, the game's unwatchable,
so let me turn it off. I'm not watching it, really, really, Kelvin, really,
(04:29):
come on, man, that is a cop out. That's too easy,
and that's not what fans want. I don't I can't
wait to hear from the listeners because I don't believe
that people just want to hear the good stuff.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
They want you to be honest. That's what we do
on this radio show.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
You could hate me, dislike me, or be mad at me,
but you know I'm gonna give you an honest take, Kelvin.
That's what people want. They don't want everything. Oh Rosie
go Look, I'm not.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
I'm not.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
I'm not trying to like brag about what we do here,
but we try to keep it one hundred like seriously,
people don't want to waste their time when you're pulling
their chain. I just think to blame and I know
Jason McIntyre was the one who originally dropped this on
Colin's show, and it got picked up rob G I
think went viral or whatever, and now people people are
(05:25):
now you know, piggybacking off of it. But I think
he's wrong. I think what's different from all the other shows,
which I agree, state run NFL network, State run. I've
been at the MLB network for a few years now, Kelvin.
Not one time have I been told don't.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Be negative or don't don't say this, don't say that.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
I'm being straight up, not once because if that, if
I got that message, then I don't need to be
on Okay, I'm gonna be honest, this bad whatever. As
matter of fact, I can remember or one of the
executives saying the reason that they wanted me was because
everybody else was milk toast.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
That.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
Yeah, well you ain't milk toast. Now you might be
peanut butter with peanut butter and jelly.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
With some milk. I gotta have the milk you got
out of milk.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
With your milk tost Listen, man, JJ, Actually for a
sharp shooter, he missed on this one for a sharp shooter,
he missed here, here's why you you touched on a
few points. I've been watching that show for twenty something
plus years, as have you, and you know what they do, they.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Will absolutely highlight.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
In fact, Charles Barkley, I can do an impression of
you know, he's fantastic. Somebody or some team is always fantastic,
Like there's always somebody he's loving or praising, or you
know they're loving you know your kitch. You know they're
singing his praises Bert man Burt like they're they're loving players.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
They're big up. That's not it.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
But Charles Barkley one of his points is his his
sticking point has been you can't just shoot threes expect
to win all the time.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
To his credit, he's been saying that all the time.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
Now you could argue, obviously the Celtics won and they
shoot more threes than anybody. But I think what people
are missing, Rob, the Celtics are prolific at it.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
They have great shooters. Everybody can't do it.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
Wait, you the Warriors had the literal We called them
the splash Brothers for eight reasons.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Not anymore. Man, they've tanked. Dude.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
We can have a whole conversation on Steph Curry with
two points. In fact, Rob j we might have missed
the headline that might have been mister.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
But wayman know him and Dreymond no field goals.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
Yeah, that's crazy, especially he said, listen you. One thing
I think we ain't the odd couple on is Steph
begetting some passes that I'd be like, hold on now.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Yes, he he ain't forty two years old.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
Steph gets some passes by people historically, even seven eight
years ago. Oh well, n Lebron or Kobe, let somebody
come back three to one, y'all would never let them
live it down.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
No, and you know what, no team nobody, I say,
he's the author of the three one choke. Nobody in
NBA history has ever come back from three you know
what I mean, choked down a three to one lead.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
That's just yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
Yeah, he's step Is. He's amazing. I think he is
one of the all time greats. But he definitely gets
some passes. But back to the whole thing, JJ sharp
shooter is missing here a couple of things. It isn't
as simply as just to say, oh, they're shooting too
many threes.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
There are multiple factors.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
Absolutely, the style of play, the threes are a part
of it.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
But also Rob you know what, I loved you.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
Always talk about when you were covering teams in Detroit,
there was an identity in the late eighties, and then
that and then that run that.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Every team played different lead you you did well.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
There you go. You had some teams that had an identity.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
The Pistons Detroit basketball that was a defensive grind unit.
Everybody is no man greater than the team. That was
how they played.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Let me give you one real quick before I forget.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Yeah, pat Riley, he went from showtime with the Lakers,
he went to New York. Right, They couldn't like, couldn't
run showtime there. They didn't have the talent to do that.
What did Pat Rock slowed the ball down defense?
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Yes, and that's what I'm saying. So, yes, No, you're right.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
So my whole, my whole point is like, there's we've
lost the identity of teams. There's no villains. There's no
good teams. Uh, there's no You needed that. The Warriors
when they were great. Whether you liked them or loved
him or hate it, you watched, you were invested. I
want them to lose. The Yankees, you want them to win,
You want them to lose. Don't nobody hate the Timberwolves.
Not nobody really love or hate the Nuggets, like all right, cool,
(09:33):
hit a good. Nobody really loves or hating Celtics, like
yeah good, you know whatever, And we need more of that.
And part of the reason for that, this is another thing.
I think it's sleeping right up under there. Nobody talking
about a bubbling under the surface.
Speaker 7 (09:47):
Rob.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
When we were covering this stuff, when I was growing
up watching this stuff, you saw teams loaded. You had
Jalen Rose, Juwan Howard, Chris Webber for two.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Three four years.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
You saw those Kansas Kentucky duke teams North Carolina for years, rivalries,
they hated each other, they're beefed out in college that
segued into the NBA. You knew them, you we invested.
That's that guy I root for or I hate or something.
Many these dudes are coming in at the six months
of college, same haircut. Don't nobody know them, Rob, And
they're just bubbling around and bouncing around for three or
(10:21):
four years. So they become good players, but you don't
have any rooting interests. You didn't even know them. So
like when they were in college for years, you got
to know the players and the teams and the beef
that it carried into the NBA. Magic Johnson Larryberg was
a rivalry that carried into the NBA.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
You knew about ever.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Seeing anything like that, and I was, you know when
I watched that, and what you know, the number will
never be surpassed.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
It was the ultimate Oh no.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
No, that I mean that's literally you You literally can't
because our killing habits have changed. So I don't think
it's a simple ast the media is all your fault,
or they shoot too many things. I think a multitude
of things. Last point too, and I'm big on this one. Slowly,
but surely, load management took a toll on people because
(11:08):
it slowly suggested to the fan, oh, well then this
game doesn't matter. Oh I'm just because if it doesn't
matter to you, not that you're really injured, but you're like,
just better if he doesn't play, it's just give him
a rest. And that slowly, over last ten fifteen years,
Rob has people being like, oh, this season doesn't matter
to the postseason. Oh let me get you know, bring
(11:29):
me around the postseason comes. And that you add that
in with Yes, I do believe streaming has changed games,
where like it used.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
To just be you know, NBA on NBC or yeah,
but I hear you.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
But the streaming thing, I just not for those numbers
to be that far off, not that drastic. I agree
with that, I can't style of play. But also, what
you're gonna talk about is nullifying the regular season. So
when you put in play with the play in twenty
of the thirty teams are eligible to get into the playoffs,
you've made the regular season almost nonexistent to be able
(12:04):
to knock ten teams off. That you're playing eighty two
games to eliminate ten teams, Like you know, how you
make the games matter and urgent is if you make
those games like less teams make the playoffs instead of
sixteen of the thirty.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Now you're making it.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
We're only ten teams now the season matters, and I
gotta watch the games. I gotta see if my team
can even get into the playoffs. You don't feel that way?
Me and you both could go through the schedule or
look at the standings and figure out the ten teams
that won't make the playoffs this year, like before the
season start.
Speaker 5 (12:39):
Right, No, that's real, but I yeah, So there's a
handful of things I think once they get and listen.
To be honest, there's just a changing of the guard too,
you know what I mean. We're losing the steps getting older,
Kds getting Lebron's getting older, Kobe God bless the Dead
is gone.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Like, we're losing the guys. So we need some of
these you.
Speaker 5 (12:57):
Young stars to become villain, some to be hero. We
need those same villains and heroes to clash for a
few years. So there's rivalries.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Dude.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
We just grew up watching the Knicks and the Pacers
go at it, Like don't we just Miami and the Knicks,
Miami and the Pistons, Bulls, Lakers and the Spurs.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Like we don't have that.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
And I know everybody keeps saying parody, we keep having
different champions.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
That's not that great.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
I wanted Lebron and the Cavs every year going up
against the Warriors.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
That's when it was. It was a highlight.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
It was scored. I mean, it was the best talent
we were all in. So there's multiple factors. But JJ
just putting on the media that, ain't it.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
We want to hear from you eight seven, seven ninety
nine on Fox. Do you agree with JJ Reddick that
inside the NBA is hurting the league and what's the
biggest reason for the NBA's waitings to climb.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
We really want to hear from you.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
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Rob and I having a conversation about the issues in
the NBA. What is the reason why, folks? Maybe you're
(15:00):
tuning out? JJ Reddick says the media for his blasting
the game. You got Lebron talking about the threes. Maybe
you have a different opinion. Eight seven, seven ninety nine
on Fox eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox what
say you?
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Who we got?
Speaker 4 (15:13):
And before you the game barely started in a Notre
Dame with a ninety eight yard touchdown.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
There you go to, oh, well, there you have it.
It's there, it is.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
That's what you guys wanted. So here we go. We'll
see all right. Tom in Orlando, you're on the odd
couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
What's up, Tom?
Speaker 7 (15:29):
Hey, what's up?
Speaker 6 (15:30):
Guys? In regards to this whole NBA ratings thing, this
is quite ironic.
Speaker 8 (15:35):
You have.
Speaker 6 (15:36):
JJ Reddick was a player in the league for close
to fifteen years, became a media personality with ESPN. Now
he's the first year coach of the Lakers, saying that
the media is a cause to the ratings, that ratings
declined to me. This is this is pretty clear. It's
a style of play. Thank you, this play everybody, everybody
(15:59):
play the exact same style. All you see is everybody
ducking up a bunch of threes. I mean, look at
the other night, what was it. I mean it was
great for the score. Forty eight May three is a
long game with the Dallas Gold State game. But the
style of play is awful. You don't see there is
no more Look, there is no more play in the
(16:19):
low post. There is no more mid range shots. What
you have is basically everybody doing exactly the same thing.
And to me, as a person who's been watching the
NBA for close to fifty years, thought in the glory
days of the nineteen eighties with Burton Magic, Michael Jordan
going through to Michael Jordan errors and the other thing.
(16:41):
The ironic thing is this whole load management thing. Who
created that one? Greg Popovich? Yeah, him with him managing
Tim Duncan.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
Yeah, Hey, Tom, let me ask you this real quick, Tom,
let me ask you this real quick.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
I saw on Twitter people were.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
Responding and most of the same stuff you talked about,
they said, But the one thing I saw there that
interests me, And they said no American talent, no new
American talent. We know the last six five or six
MVPs have gone to form born players. Does that bother you?
(17:23):
Just curious, Tom, want your honest opinion. Does that bother you?
Speaker 6 (17:28):
It doesn't bother me about the fact that the MVPs.
But what it does bother a fact of me is
basically the quote unquote European game, which is these highly
skilled I supposedly highly skilled players who can basically you
have seven foot guys who can shoot threes and thinks right.
(17:51):
They can handle the ball, they can to have a handle,
they can pass the ball, they can do all these things.
But what are they also very soft? Defensively? Yep, be muscled.
They can basically be muscled all over the place. There
is no more defense than the NBA that's been legislated out.
I got that part because you know they get the
legislative hand checking out to including pro the.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
Scoring and you know, no doubt Tom, Thank you, man,
I just want to get your input on that.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
Eight seven seven ninety nine On Fox Tony in DC,
You're on the odd couple of files.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
What's up, Tony?
Speaker 8 (18:25):
Well, what's up?
Speaker 6 (18:26):
Fellas?
Speaker 8 (18:27):
Look man, Lebron's got a lot of nerve to complain
about anything. This is the dude that ushered in the
Lase Fair All Star Game. This is the guy that
is overstaying his welcome, so to speak. There's a lot
of young talent in this league ready to take the mantle.
The league will not slow down for anybody. Okay, and
(18:49):
for JJ Red to sit here and with his condescending solf,
we're fans, we have eyes. This is just like watching
It's like ground Hawks day. Every game, just thirty forty
threes before halftime. You got guys shooting that shouldn't be shooting,
like you.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
Don't know what you're watching, Like, oh no, it's just
because Charles Barkley said something, and so you're following along.
You know basketball, you've been watching basketball. You don't like
the style of playing.
Speaker 8 (19:18):
No, And I think that when I think and Lebron's
great and everything, but I think that it's a lot
of Lebron fatigue going on or ready to move on
from him. Okay, it's time for Anthony Davis, Shay Gilders joker.
I don't care about the form players and the MVPs
and all that. I just want to see these young
(19:38):
guys finally get their chance. Jason tatums the kids in
or Land Pollo.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
On Final Quick. Yeah he could go.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
But the point was going to be the challenge with
that is everybody says that it's time to move on. Well,
first of all, one thing, Kareem played till he was
dagn their fifty uh, Kobe played until he was old,
attacked like guys do that.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Jordan came back was in his forty. No, nobody's been
playing like Lebron like like no, but I mean literally
guys have played to their late thirty four. That's not
the thing. My thing is, we can't. You don't get
the Lebron fatigue. You know, I'm a.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
Massive fan, but I get the Lebron fitty. But what
I'm saying is it's the other young guy. You can't
just say they're not star. Jason Tatum doesn't have. It's
not that he's not a talented player. Nothing about him
screams superstar popularity wise, Q rating wise. And so these
young guys have to have that it factor as well.
We can't just be like I'm ready for Sga. Well
(20:32):
Sga is a really freaking good player. None about him
is polarizing. Nothing about him is like we're missing that.
That's why Steph you know Rates and Katie Rady. These
guys are not only great, but they had something to
say or they were doing different, unique things, and so
we can't just I'm ready for Lebron and Lee. Okay,
Well when Lebron leaves, Steph Lee is Ktie Lee. We
(20:54):
gonna need these guys to not just be good basketball players,
they have to be statesmen.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
That but the league isn't going anywhere great, No it is,
but I'm saying, you give it.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
I mean, like Joki is a great player, nothing about
him is a great statesman or.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Ye, but that doesn't mean that somebody else won't come along.
I'm hoping. I mean they will. Michael Jordan left the league.
It didn't collapse.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
I'm just saying, like, like Lebron, he's been there a
long time.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
He's about to be gone. I'm just like, I'm agree
with it. He's about to be gone.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
But the idea that like dude, most there have plenty
of old players who great player who played a very
long time. I need some of these young dudes become
superstars and that the league if they have to highlight
him some more. All right, we got Sean King in
just the second here talks in football, but right now,
what's trending.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
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Speaker 5 (21:47):
It's The Odd Couple, Robin I kelvin Washington, hanging out
with you on a funky flashback Friday. Right now, As
it always says, on a Friday, our man, Sean King
joins the show. Former NFL quarterback Fox Sports Radio NFO analysts.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
You can get out him on Real shot, kig on
Twitter shot. What's up?
Speaker 8 (22:02):
Bro?
Speaker 7 (22:03):
What's up? What's up? Fellas man?
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Happy Friday to you?
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Hey, hey real I wondered, did you have a Notre
Dame covering this seven and a half or do you
have Indiana covering it?
Speaker 7 (22:16):
I took Indiana plus the seven and a half.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (22:19):
If I could redo my bet, if I can redo
my bet right now based on what Rourke it looks
like so far, would change.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Wow? Are you ready to bail out already? Sharp?
Speaker 7 (22:31):
Well, here's the difficult thing with these quarterbacks because the
transfer portal. This is a kid that's played in the
think the Mac thinks with a MAC school, and so
he comes to Indiana. You just don't know how they're
gonna handle these big stages. Hopefully he settles down, but
I don't like the way he looks early in this game.
Speaker 5 (22:48):
All right, Well, shoot, we can keep talking about that,
or we can switch to the NFL a little bit. Uh, Sean,
We'll go to the NFL looking forward to some of
these weekend games, but I want to go through some
some of the stories, uh.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
That are happening in NFL.
Speaker 5 (23:01):
Right now, let's go to what we've been talking about
really on this show throughout the week. Is Josh Allen
and you have Lamar Jackson battling It seems as it's
just them too. Maybe you got say Kwan as well
in the mix, battling it out.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
For the MVP.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
Josh Allen, I feel as if it's a lock for
him just because of all the two or three different
things that are in his favor, especially one beating the record.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Is it a lock for Josh Allen in your opinion?
Speaker 5 (23:24):
Or can Lamar make a push even though he has
the better stats.
Speaker 7 (23:28):
Well, I'm just enjoying all of them. I'm not a
guy that has the hate on Michael Jordan to big
up Lebron. I hate on Lebron to big up Michael Jordan. Like,
I just like greatness and we're.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Like he was talking to you, Rob. I feel like
he was screaming at you, Rob when he.
Speaker 7 (23:40):
Said that you saw that's a blimbal. I'm just enjoying it.
I mean, I think John's is gonna win simply because
they lost Gabe Davis and Stefan Diggs and they're better
because of the way he's playing. I mean, he's really
not doing this with like a bunch of light top
echelon skill guys, So I mean it's impressive. I mean,
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Lamar's doing this thing too. We'll see tomorrow. Lamar's Nelson
Aguilar's out, I think with Shan Bateman's out, so they
just cut Deontae Johnson, So Lamar's got another stage tomorrow.
But I mean, I still think sat Kawhan Barkley is
the best playing football this year, but I doubt if
he can win it over the two quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Yeah, I just don't. I don't see that either, even
though he's had some season.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
We know this has turned into excuse me, turned into
a quarterback basically award. I still think that Lamar has
a shot in this because his numbers are better, and
as you go on these last three games, he didn't
win it last year, shown until that Christmas Day game
in San Francisco last year where he blew out the
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forty nine ers, and I think that is what pushed
him over the edge last year.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Would you agree up with that that that was the game?
Speaker 7 (24:49):
Absolutely? And that's why I didn't say on equivocally that
Allen Josh's won it. I mean, Lamar's playing tomorrow against
what the Steelers, and I think he bounces right back
on Christmas Day against it was that the Texas or
the Chiefs, the Texas Texans, right, I mean, he's got
two primetime games. If Josh Stubbs is told and Lamar
does something amazing, then it's not out of the question
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he can win. I just think the storyline coming into
the season was before they ever played the game, we
were gonna see is Josh Allen really the real deal?
Because step Finnie got traded to the Texans, gave Davids
left and free agency to go to the Jags, and
they didn't really replace them. Even though they drafted the
young receiver from Florida State, he didn't come in with
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the same accolades as you know, Malik Neighbors and some
of those guys. By the way, remember I told you
before the draft Brian Thomas was the best rookie receiver
in this class. I think that's a great call on me.
But I didn't come down. We'll see, all right.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
No, I love how you. You got to remind us
every now and again. Remind us it's called proof of performance.
I'm all about it.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Yeah, with that, and no issue with that. You got to.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
Ask you about the Lions with all the injuries and whatnot,
and and obviously Dan Gamble.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
And all the other craziness.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
I just think for them to have to overcome so
many injuries, it just doesn't look like they're gonna.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Get there this year.
Speaker 7 (26:09):
First of all, they're a great story, and I think
it's a great test for a former player that just
has a different mentality at times than the traditional guys
who come up through coaching. What he can do to
an organization. I mean, this was a more bound like
this was a cat fish organization of them all. I
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mean that Detroit was awful before he got there, and
I mean he's changed the narrative. That city's behind him.
I do think he's gonna be his own worst enemy.
I think some of his decisions, you know, whether it
go for it, whether the kick field goals is gonna
come up and bite them. But I just love the story.
Can to overcome the injuries we'll see. I think them
having home field is going to be very important. I
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don't know a lot of it.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
Yeah, but they might not even get home field. The
Vikings are tied with them, they might not. That's the
whole thing. Can you imagine you go, you win eleven
straight games, you're twelve and two, and you not even
locking you haven't even locked up home field.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
That's amazing to me.
Speaker 7 (27:05):
Yeah, that these next week are reporting for a lot
of teams, Kansas City as good as they've been. If
they go want and two down the stretch and Buffalo
wins out, you know, Buffalo gets on field. So why
the NFL is king. There's a bunch of teams that
are still in it. Hell, the Bengals can still make
the playoffs. So I mean that's why the NFL is great.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Yeh, Sean King our guest, and Sean, let me ask
you this. I'm looking at. Uh, there's a half we.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
Kind of know the office, right you can say the Bills,
the Chiefs, the Lions. There's like four or five teams.
We all know what we talk about, the Eagles. Is
there a team you're looking at right now? You let
you says the Ravens to the Ravens to my bad,
make sure I get you, make sure I get your
guy up in there.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Is there a team you're looking at?
Speaker 5 (27:44):
Maybe it's the Chargers, off of incredible nights, comeback.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Win for them. A couple of crazy that is there.
Speaker 5 (27:50):
You know the Steelers are obviously, there are the Rams
if they get in, there are Commanders. Is there another
group of teams they're saying, hey, don't sleep on them.
The Buccaneers can be another one.
Speaker 7 (28:00):
Yeah, it's one in the AFC, it's one in the NFC.
You mentioned it's all started NFC Tampa Bay. They're gonna
get Chris Godwin back here at some point. And you know,
people forget they went to Detroit last year and you
know played them, you know, play for play. I think
the bust of Dangers come to playoffs. But I also
think Pittsburgh when George Pickens gets back and TJ Watts healthy,
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Pittsburgh is extremely dangerous. I think with Russell Wilson and
his experience and the way they play defense and the
quality they got on that sideline with Mike Tomlin, I
think Pittsburgh and Tampa would be the two teams and
both conferences that I think are dangerous once the playoffs start.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
Where you on the Chargers, Kelvin miss mentioned it, I'm
not a big I look at their record. They've mostly
beaten bad teams. Last night was an a different example.
I think they've beaten two teams over five hundred. Do
you buy into the Chargers or not.
Speaker 7 (28:54):
I think it's a great job by Harvard and year
one of kind of stabilizing the organization to Stalley, you know,
and his decision making. Tried to tell him down, but
they got to get some guys around Herbert. I mean
they let all their their Jaunston Eckler, Keenan Allen, Mike Williams,
they all left. They didn't really replace him. I mean,
you forget they drafted Quentin Johnson. It was before Haulball,
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but they took him over a Zay Flowers and Jordan Addison.
So they gotta get some better pass catchers. I think
this all season will be big for them. I think
there'll be more dangerous next year than this year.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
Yeah, they're definitely missing off, and they got a guy
who can throw that thing at Justin Herbert, but you
can tell at times he's like, well, who y'all want
me to throw it to.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
The Eagles?
Speaker 8 (29:36):
Hey?
Speaker 7 (29:37):
Yeah, okay? Watching the Chargers, guys, you gotta have like
the full lineup sit next to you because if God
catch a body on, who is that?
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Oh? Yeah, it's right, It's not only that. Hey what
about what about the crowd? What was it ninety ten? Uh? Denver?
I mean they got it. They got Chargers having a problem.
Speaker 7 (29:53):
Yea, the city of San Diego needs to do better.
There's no reason that Chargers shall be in l A again.
They will still be in San Diego with their own
fan base. They'll competing with too much in LA. They're like,
what the sixth professional team there? Right as far as
like Priority Trump know.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Anything about LA, it's a Dodgers Lakers town period.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
Just that's the problem with it. The money is the money.
You gonna make money regardless.
Speaker 7 (30:19):
Yeah, right, and the San Diego is to step, they
should have stepped. They gotta get a stadium there. I
want the charge to go back to San Diego. I
think that just from a fan support standpoint, they got
a better shot there of being significant than they do
in LA.
Speaker 5 (30:32):
Yeah, that's kind of like everybody wants to put a
team back in Seattle on the NBA, Like he's just
one of those fan bases. You want them to have something.
But yeah, these organizations, Sean, they make way too much
money in LA. That's why they don't mind losing and
being third, fifth, sixth place. That money they still can't
it still cashes in, It still goes into the bank. Sean, Man,
we appreciate it as always. You give us your couple,
give us your picks for this week.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
You got some picks.
Speaker 7 (30:55):
I don't have anything this week. I think the college
football playoffs is gonna play the form after the night.
I really think the favorites are gonna hold up. I
will say this about Tennessee. Ohio State is gonna come
down to three plays. Tennessee is going house and wide
receivers running open if their young quarterback Meeko can hit them,
Tennessee will win that game. He's been inconsistent throwing the
ball down the field. That'll determine the outcome. I think
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Penn State's gonna roll SMU tomorrow. But again I'm picking.
I've got money on Board State and Arizona State to
win the national title. I'm back in two underdogs to
win this thing.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Now, you know that ain't happenings, Sean. You just you
got all those you got all those kids. Why are
you taking away there? This scholarship did college far? What
are you doing?
Speaker 8 (31:35):
Row? Rob?
Speaker 7 (31:36):
I want chaos. Little Fingers said it best in Game
of Thrones. Chaos is a ladder. I'm going Boise State
and Arizona State, one of those two to win it all.
Speaker 5 (31:45):
All right, well listen, I mean Boise State they mad,
they they run, they're running back getting win the highs
when they mad about it. So we'll see Sean Man,
thank you so much. We appreciate you, brother.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
I have a great weekend.
Speaker 5 (31:55):
Merry Christmas to us family, Mary, Christmas to your brother
as well. Hey you know what, Rob, there's sometimes this
is what we do, right there's we got to get
at somebody. We gotta get out a player or a team, organization,
even the league. At times, sometimes you gotta just show
somebody some love for an amazing story. And there is
one that was in the Sporting News today. Want to
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Speaker 1 (32:44):
One comes on.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
I see you month Ore. You are definitely you are
healed and back to normal. You look TV ready, where
I look like I'm sick. You know, I still like
a little rough. I'm going to the barber in the morning.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Yeah, I'm going to bor I'm going to barn tomorrow
as well.
Speaker 5 (33:02):
But I did do TV today, and honestly, I was
telling Rob g I didn't think I was gonna be
able to make it. I was kind of like, I
don't know I had you know how it goes when
you already scheduled an interview, and it was one of
those you gotta do it, you gotta be their type situations.
So I couldn't keep pushing these folks off. So I
was like, let me just go in. And I felt
better than I thought I would. So, Plus I got
a day or so ahead of you too, as far
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as it's so, they had two day and a half ago. Dude,
I was who but yeah, feeling better. I do need
to get some food though, I need to get some
some something healthy, Rob YouTube man, hopefully you ain't been
eating walk.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
The first night that I came down with it. For dinner,
I had a steak, baked potato and corn, and you
know what, normally you lose your appetite.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
You know what I mean? Like, yeah, it was the opposite.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
I had a full meal and I had my taste
budgs er intact. So I was like, Okay, I could
deal with this. I just feel like a little bit
of a fall. I'm not today like today that's better,
but that that's all I was really feeling.
Speaker 5 (34:05):
Yeah, No, I get it, man, it is you know,
this is a season and everybody's sick too, dude. Everybody's
just different jobs of seeing people online posting, you know,
the little timeline on social media.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
I'm down, I'm not feeling well. I'm sick as a dog.
Speaker 5 (34:17):
And so it's funny because living in LA, we always
associate like having a cold with cold weather, right and
you with it in La to do with it has
nothing to do and you're like, why iver cold even
though it's seventy eight degrees out. It's like, dude, it's
just germs. It's just when they're spreading. It's it's just
when the viruses are going around. So uh, that is that.
(34:38):
But hey, I wanted to throw this at you.
Speaker 7 (34:40):
Man.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
You and I have been doing this for a while now,
a few months now, and everybody else you've been you know,
we've been talking about.
Speaker 5 (34:46):
Sports for years and years, and sometimes you just get
a cool story or a story of redemption where you're like, man,
you know what, I'm glad this is working out for somebody,
plain and simple, and that for me is Mike who
It was announced today that he is going to be
the new head coach at North Fall Stake, which is
a historically black college near his home in Virginia where
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he's from.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
I got a number of friends who graduated from Norfolk State.
Speaker 5 (35:13):
Nice, nice, nice, nice, and he it was unanimous by
their board there and all the leaders there. And I
just remember this story, you know, ten twelve years ago,
where this thing was headed, where his life was literally
in prison, not in jail, not in it. Gotta go
do thirty days sit out in the county jail, two
(35:34):
years in prison, NFL one hundred million dollars strip from you.
Who knows if your wife's gonna stay with you, your kids,
do they love you, they hate you?
Speaker 1 (35:45):
You know, just going through it personal turmoil.
Speaker 5 (35:49):
And for him to find a way to sit in
that cell, take a hard look at himself, take accountability,
which is hard for all the humanity to do it.
It takes a really strong person to do that, and
then say let me fix it, let me better myself,
let me improve the situation.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
And you know this from.
Speaker 5 (36:09):
Being around people in the league, being around people in
the business. Everyone says he has been the model of contrition,
the model of redemption that goes from pet that goes
from the NFL folks to everything comes back gets under
Andy Reid.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Because I like Peter bread too.
Speaker 5 (36:27):
Okay, yeah, yeah, it is delicious. By the way, the
little hummus with it. You know what I'm saying. I
like my little red pepper hummus too. And in the league, says,
I mean, he comes back, becomes offensive, a comeback player
of the Year under Andy Reid, gets a great deal
in the NFL, makes some money back. Next thing you do,
he's working with Fox, you know, talking about the game.
He loves, you know, has been a spokesperson for Community
(36:49):
and Tea and then pet.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
And now he's doing this.
Speaker 5 (36:51):
I almost don't even care if he you know, he
may suck as a coach for two years.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (36:55):
But just to see this story in his bounce back, man,
it's been awesome for me because will not you and
I per se.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
But like you know, we come on to be bashing athlete.
He hain'te this. He should have never did that. Terrible,
that's you. I don't be bashing anybody. I just tell
the truth. Yeah right right. I don't look at it. No,
I'm not looking at his bashing people.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
I really don't. I don't whether people acknowledge it or not.
I don't If someone's great, I got I'll tell you
you're great, and I have no issues doing that, and
if you don't play up to par, to have no
issues doing that either. But I get your point on
Michael Vick, but I think he had a long history
of redemption already. I mean, you just talked about him,
Comeback Player of the Year, a new contract, he worked
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for Fox, He's been on the Men and gotten a
lot of jobs and opportunities and rob g you know
this because he comes.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
On with us at the Super Bowls or whatever, and
the time that.
Speaker 4 (37:47):
I've been around him, I think he's just the nicest
guy in the world. And it doesn't I'm not trying
to get any points or doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
I'm just telling you, like, no, he really is way
to you or whatever. I'm telling you. He's one of
the nicest people I've ever met. He's just a nice guy.
I'm not sure you should.
Speaker 5 (38:07):
Be in a place where, By the way, if you
say somebody's a nice guy, you gotta like justify it.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
And like you know what I mean, Like that's that
people always think that you know, you're try.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Crazy say nice things about Michael Parsons. Next Fox Sports
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Speaker 4 (01:16):
It's right, Kevin. You know the NBA continues to be
a hot topic.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Yeah, I mean, listen you have.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
It's funny how when these things become a thing, Rob,
they kind of make their way around, you know, the rounds,
and everybody's having these conversations, including Lebron recently, who is
talked about. He believes the three point ball has been
a massive reason why the game has become unwatchable to
so many. You and I have talked about the ratings
(01:47):
down twenty percent year of a year, forty eight percent
the last twelve years.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
That's all hitty number.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
Since crazy forty eight is crazy, I mean half you
would just think now again, I believe they are multiple facts,
but JJ Reddick believes another one of those things would
be all the folks like you and I, but especially
it seems as if he's talking about inside the NBA
UH and their criticism of the game.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Here's what JJ had to say. I don't think we
as we I was part of it. We as the
sort of.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
National partners have done a good job of storytelling, of
celebrating the game. If I'm a casual fan and you
tell me every time I turn on the television.
Speaker 6 (02:30):
That the product sucks, well I'm not going to watch
the product.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
It's simple for there, Can I start?
Speaker 4 (02:38):
Yeah, go ahead, Because I think JJ Reddick is full
of cocky, full of thank you he's full of poppy
because he's full of it because they're giving us way
too much credit.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Okay, the inside the NBA.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
The reason actually why it's so popular and why it's
done so well.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
For a long time is because they are honest. You
know what people don't watch.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
People don't watch your local postgame shows where it's raw,
raw home team.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
That's what people don't watch.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Where I'm gonna watch my team get blown out and
you're gonna tell me a story about how they were
in the game for the first three minutes and how
they can build off of that next week, next game
or whatever. That's not what people want to hear. That's
not the reason. It has nothing to do with Charles Barkley,
Shaquille O'Neill, Kenny Smith zero.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
The reason people aren't watching is the quality of the game.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
And I respect Charles Barkley and those guys and TNT
for being honest with the fans. It is a nationally
acclaimed show.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Everyone's tried to copy it.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
What they can't copy is the authenticity of the comments
about what's going on in front of you you're watching.
They have not always been bashing the product, have they able.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
The last few years. Yes they have, and rightfully.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
So they're talking about why the ratings are down like
this because the product stinks. Don't give the messenger all
this credit. That old Charles Barkley says, the game's unwatchable,
so let me turn it off. I'm not watching it, really, really, Kelvin, really,
(04:29):
come on, man, that is a cop out. That's too easy,
and that's not what fans want. I don't I can't
wait to hear from the listeners because I don't believe
that people just want to hear the good stuff.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
They want you to be honest. That's what we do
on this radio show.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
You could hate me, dislike me, or be mad at me,
but you know I'm gonna give you an honest take, Kelvin.
That's what people want. They don't want everything. Oh Rosie
go Look, I'm not.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
I'm not.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
I'm not trying to like brag about what we do here,
but we try to keep it one hundred like seriously,
people don't want to waste their time when you're pulling
their chain. I just think to blame and I know
Jason McIntyre was the one who originally dropped this on
Colin's show, and it got picked up rob G I
think went viral or whatever, and now people people are
(05:25):
now you know, piggybacking off of it. But I think
he's wrong. I think what's different from all the other shows,
which I agree, state run NFL network, State run. I've
been at the MLB network for a few years now, Kelvin.
Not one time have I been told don't.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Be negative or don't don't say this, don't say that.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
I'm being straight up, not once because if that, if
I got that message, then I don't need to be
on Okay, I'm gonna be honest, this bad whatever. As
matter of fact, I can remember or one of the
executives saying the reason that they wanted me was because
everybody else was milk toast.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
That.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
Yeah, well you ain't milk toast. Now you might be
peanut butter with peanut butter and jelly.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
With some milk. I gotta have the milk you got
out of milk.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
With your milk tost Listen, man, JJ, Actually for a
sharp shooter, he missed on this one for a sharp shooter,
he missed here, here's why you you touched on a
few points. I've been watching that show for twenty something
plus years, as have you, and you know what they do, they.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Will absolutely highlight.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
In fact, Charles Barkley, I can do an impression of
you know, he's fantastic. Somebody or some team is always fantastic,
Like there's always somebody he's loving or praising, or you
know they're loving you know your kitch. You know they're
singing his praises Bert man Burt like they're they're loving players.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
They're big up. That's not it.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
But Charles Barkley one of his points is his his
sticking point has been you can't just shoot threes expect
to win all the time.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
To his credit, he's been saying that all the time.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
Now you could argue, obviously the Celtics won and they
shoot more threes than anybody. But I think what people
are missing, Rob, the Celtics are prolific at it.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
They have great shooters. Everybody can't do it.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
Wait, you the Warriors had the literal We called them
the splash Brothers for eight reasons.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Not anymore. Man, they've tanked. Dude.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
We can have a whole conversation on Steph Curry with
two points. In fact, Rob j we might have missed
the headline that might have been mister.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
But wayman know him and Dreymond no field goals.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
Yeah, that's crazy, especially he said, listen you. One thing
I think we ain't the odd couple on is Steph
begetting some passes that I'd be like, hold on now.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Yes, he he ain't forty two years old.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
Steph gets some passes by people historically, even seven eight
years ago. Oh well, n Lebron or Kobe, let somebody
come back three to one, y'all would never let them
live it down.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
No, and you know what, no team nobody, I say,
he's the author of the three one choke. Nobody in
NBA history has ever come back from three you know
what I mean, choked down a three to one lead.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
That's just yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
Yeah, he's step Is. He's amazing. I think he is
one of the all time greats. But he definitely gets
some passes. But back to the whole thing, JJ sharp
shooter is missing here a couple of things. It isn't
as simply as just to say, oh, they're shooting too
many threes.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
There are multiple factors.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
Absolutely, the style of play, the threes are a part
of it.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
But also Rob you know what, I loved you.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
Always talk about when you were covering teams in Detroit,
there was an identity in the late eighties, and then
that and then that run that.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Every team played different lead you you did well.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
There you go. You had some teams that had an identity.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
The Pistons Detroit basketball that was a defensive grind unit.
Everybody is no man greater than the team. That was
how they played.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Let me give you one real quick before I forget.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Yeah, pat Riley, he went from showtime with the Lakers,
he went to New York. Right, They couldn't like, couldn't
run showtime there. They didn't have the talent to do that.
What did Pat Rock slowed the ball down defense?
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Yes, and that's what I'm saying. So, yes, No, you're right.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
So my whole, my whole point is like, there's we've
lost the identity of teams. There's no villains. There's no
good teams. Uh, there's no You needed that. The Warriors
when they were great. Whether you liked them or loved
him or hate it, you watched, you were invested. I
want them to lose. The Yankees, you want them to win,
You want them to lose. Don't nobody hate the Timberwolves.
Not nobody really love or hate the Nuggets, like all right, cool,
(09:33):
hit a good. Nobody really loves or hating Celtics, like
yeah good, you know whatever, And we need more of that.
And part of the reason for that, this is another thing.
I think it's sleeping right up under there. Nobody talking
about a bubbling under the surface.
Speaker 7 (09:47):
Rob.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
When we were covering this stuff, when I was growing
up watching this stuff, you saw teams loaded. You had
Jalen Rose, Juwan Howard, Chris Webber for two.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Three four years.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
You saw those Kansas Kentucky duke teams North Carolina for years, rivalries,
they hated each other, they're beefed out in college that
segued into the NBA. You knew them, you we invested.
That's that guy I root for or I hate or something.
Many these dudes are coming in at the six months
of college, same haircut. Don't nobody know them, Rob, And
they're just bubbling around and bouncing around for three or
(10:21):
four years. So they become good players, but you don't
have any rooting interests. You didn't even know them. So
like when they were in college for years, you got
to know the players and the teams and the beef
that it carried into the NBA. Magic Johnson Larryberg was
a rivalry that carried into the NBA.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
You knew about ever.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Seeing anything like that, and I was, you know when
I watched that, and what you know, the number will
never be surpassed.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
It was the ultimate Oh no.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
No, that I mean that's literally you You literally can't
because our killing habits have changed. So I don't think
it's a simple ast the media is all your fault,
or they shoot too many things. I think a multitude
of things. Last point too, and I'm big on this one. Slowly,
but surely, load management took a toll on people because
(11:08):
it slowly suggested to the fan, oh, well then this
game doesn't matter. Oh I'm just because if it doesn't
matter to you, not that you're really injured, but you're like,
just better if he doesn't play, it's just give him
a rest. And that slowly, over last ten fifteen years,
Rob has people being like, oh, this season doesn't matter
to the postseason. Oh let me get you know, bring
(11:29):
me around the postseason comes. And that you add that
in with Yes, I do believe streaming has changed games,
where like it used.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
To just be you know, NBA on NBC or yeah,
but I hear you.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
But the streaming thing, I just not for those numbers
to be that far off, not that drastic. I agree
with that, I can't style of play. But also, what
you're gonna talk about is nullifying the regular season. So
when you put in play with the play in twenty
of the thirty teams are eligible to get into the playoffs,
you've made the regular season almost nonexistent to be able
(12:04):
to knock ten teams off. That you're playing eighty two
games to eliminate ten teams, Like you know, how you
make the games matter and urgent is if you make
those games like less teams make the playoffs instead of
sixteen of the thirty.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Now you're making it.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
We're only ten teams now the season matters, and I
gotta watch the games. I gotta see if my team
can even get into the playoffs. You don't feel that way?
Me and you both could go through the schedule or
look at the standings and figure out the ten teams
that won't make the playoffs this year, like before the
season start.
Speaker 5 (12:39):
Right, No, that's real, but I yeah, So there's a
handful of things I think once they get and listen.
To be honest, there's just a changing of the guard too,
you know what I mean. We're losing the steps getting older,
Kds getting Lebron's getting older, Kobe God bless the Dead
is gone.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Like, we're losing the guys. So we need some of
these you.
Speaker 5 (12:57):
Young stars to become villain, some to be hero. We
need those same villains and heroes to clash for a
few years. So there's rivalries.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Dude.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
We just grew up watching the Knicks and the Pacers
go at it, Like don't we just Miami and the Knicks,
Miami and the Pistons, Bulls, Lakers and the Spurs.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Like we don't have that.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
And I know everybody keeps saying parody, we keep having
different champions.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
That's not that great.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
I wanted Lebron and the Cavs every year going up
against the Warriors.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
That's when it was. It was a highlight.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
It was scored. I mean, it was the best talent
we were all in. So there's multiple factors. But JJ
just putting on the media that, ain't it.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
We want to hear from you eight seven, seven ninety
nine on Fox. Do you agree with JJ Reddick that
inside the NBA is hurting the league and what's the
biggest reason for the NBA's waitings to climb.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
We really want to hear from you.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
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Rob and I having a conversation about the issues in
the NBA. What is the reason why, folks? Maybe you're
(15:00):
tuning out? JJ Reddick says the media for his blasting
the game. You got Lebron talking about the threes. Maybe
you have a different opinion. Eight seven, seven ninety nine
on Fox eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox what
say you?
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Who we got?
Speaker 4 (15:13):
And before you the game barely started in a Notre
Dame with a ninety eight yard touchdown.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
There you go to, oh, well, there you have it.
It's there, it is.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
That's what you guys wanted. So here we go. We'll
see all right. Tom in Orlando, you're on the odd
couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
What's up, Tom?
Speaker 7 (15:29):
Hey, what's up?
Speaker 6 (15:30):
Guys? In regards to this whole NBA ratings thing, this
is quite ironic.
Speaker 8 (15:35):
You have.
Speaker 6 (15:36):
JJ Reddick was a player in the league for close
to fifteen years, became a media personality with ESPN. Now
he's the first year coach of the Lakers, saying that
the media is a cause to the ratings, that ratings
declined to me. This is this is pretty clear. It's
a style of play. Thank you, this play everybody, everybody
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play the exact same style. All you see is everybody
ducking up a bunch of threes. I mean, look at
the other night, what was it. I mean it was
great for the score. Forty eight May three is a
long game with the Dallas Gold State game. But the
style of play is awful. You don't see there is
no more Look, there is no more play in the
(16:19):
low post. There is no more mid range shots. What
you have is basically everybody doing exactly the same thing.
And to me, as a person who's been watching the
NBA for close to fifty years, thought in the glory
days of the nineteen eighties with Burton Magic, Michael Jordan
going through to Michael Jordan errors and the other thing.
(16:41):
The ironic thing is this whole load management thing. Who
created that one? Greg Popovich? Yeah, him with him managing
Tim Duncan.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
Yeah, Hey, Tom, let me ask you this real quick, Tom,
let me ask you this real quick.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
I saw on Twitter people were.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
Responding and most of the same stuff you talked about,
they said, But the one thing I saw there that
interests me, And they said no American talent, no new
American talent. We know the last six five or six
MVPs have gone to form born players. Does that bother you?
(17:23):
Just curious, Tom, want your honest opinion. Does that bother you?
Speaker 6 (17:28):
It doesn't bother me about the fact that the MVPs.
But what it does bother a fact of me is
basically the quote unquote European game, which is these highly
skilled I supposedly highly skilled players who can basically you
have seven foot guys who can shoot threes and thinks right.
(17:51):
They can handle the ball, they can to have a handle,
they can pass the ball, they can do all these things.
But what are they also very soft? Defensively? Yep, be muscled.
They can basically be muscled all over the place. There
is no more defense than the NBA that's been legislated out.
I got that part because you know they get the
legislative hand checking out to including pro the.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
Scoring and you know, no doubt Tom, Thank you, man,
I just want to get your input on that.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
Eight seven seven ninety nine On Fox Tony in DC,
You're on the odd couple of files.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
What's up, Tony?
Speaker 8 (18:25):
Well, what's up?
Speaker 6 (18:26):
Fellas?
Speaker 8 (18:27):
Look man, Lebron's got a lot of nerve to complain
about anything. This is the dude that ushered in the
Lase Fair All Star Game. This is the guy that
is overstaying his welcome, so to speak. There's a lot
of young talent in this league ready to take the mantle.
The league will not slow down for anybody. Okay, and
(18:49):
for JJ Red to sit here and with his condescending solf,
we're fans, we have eyes. This is just like watching
It's like ground Hawks day. Every game, just thirty forty
threes before halftime. You got guys shooting that shouldn't be shooting,
like you.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
Don't know what you're watching, Like, oh no, it's just
because Charles Barkley said something, and so you're following along.
You know basketball, you've been watching basketball. You don't like
the style of playing.
Speaker 8 (19:18):
No, And I think that when I think and Lebron's
great and everything, but I think that it's a lot
of Lebron fatigue going on or ready to move on
from him. Okay, it's time for Anthony Davis, Shay Gilders joker.
I don't care about the form players and the MVPs
and all that. I just want to see these young
(19:38):
guys finally get their chance. Jason tatums the kids in
or Land Pollo.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
On Final Quick. Yeah he could go.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
But the point was going to be the challenge with
that is everybody says that it's time to move on. Well,
first of all, one thing, Kareem played till he was
dagn their fifty uh, Kobe played until he was old,
attacked like guys do that.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Jordan came back was in his forty. No, nobody's been
playing like Lebron like like no, but I mean literally
guys have played to their late thirty four. That's not
the thing. My thing is, we can't. You don't get
the Lebron fatigue. You know, I'm a.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
Massive fan, but I get the Lebron fitty. But what
I'm saying is it's the other young guy. You can't
just say they're not star. Jason Tatum doesn't have. It's
not that he's not a talented player. Nothing about him
screams superstar popularity wise, Q rating wise. And so these
young guys have to have that it factor as well.
We can't just be like I'm ready for Sga. Well
(20:32):
Sga is a really freaking good player. None about him
is polarizing. Nothing about him is like we're missing that.
That's why Steph you know Rates and Katie Rady. These
guys are not only great, but they had something to
say or they were doing different, unique things, and so
we can't just I'm ready for Lebron and Lee. Okay,
Well when Lebron leaves, Steph Lee is Ktie Lee. We
(20:54):
gonna need these guys to not just be good basketball players,
they have to be statesmen.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
That but the league isn't going anywhere great, No it is,
but I'm saying, you give it.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
I mean, like Joki is a great player, nothing about
him is a great statesman or.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Ye, but that doesn't mean that somebody else won't come along.
I'm hoping. I mean they will. Michael Jordan left the league.
It didn't collapse.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
I'm just saying, like, like Lebron, he's been there a
long time.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
He's about to be gone. I'm just like, I'm agree
with it. He's about to be gone.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
But the idea that like dude, most there have plenty
of old players who great player who played a very
long time. I need some of these young dudes become
superstars and that the league if they have to highlight
him some more. All right, we got Sean King in
just the second here talks in football, but right now,
what's trending.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
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Speaker 5 (21:47):
It's The Odd Couple, Robin I kelvin Washington, hanging out
with you on a funky flashback Friday. Right now, As
it always says, on a Friday, our man, Sean King
joins the show. Former NFL quarterback Fox Sports Radio NFO analysts.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
You can get out him on Real shot, kig on
Twitter shot. What's up?
Speaker 8 (22:02):
Bro?
Speaker 7 (22:03):
What's up? What's up? Fellas man?
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Happy Friday to you?
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Hey, hey real I wondered, did you have a Notre
Dame covering this seven and a half or do you
have Indiana covering it?
Speaker 7 (22:16):
I took Indiana plus the seven and a half.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (22:19):
If I could redo my bet, if I can redo
my bet right now based on what Rourke it looks
like so far, would change.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Wow? Are you ready to bail out already? Sharp?
Speaker 7 (22:31):
Well, here's the difficult thing with these quarterbacks because the
transfer portal. This is a kid that's played in the
think the Mac thinks with a MAC school, and so
he comes to Indiana. You just don't know how they're
gonna handle these big stages. Hopefully he settles down, but
I don't like the way he looks early in this game.
Speaker 5 (22:48):
All right, Well, shoot, we can keep talking about that,
or we can switch to the NFL a little bit. Uh, Sean,
We'll go to the NFL looking forward to some of
these weekend games, but I want to go through some
some of the stories, uh.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
That are happening in NFL.
Speaker 5 (23:01):
Right now, let's go to what we've been talking about
really on this show throughout the week. Is Josh Allen
and you have Lamar Jackson battling It seems as it's
just them too. Maybe you got say Kwan as well
in the mix, battling it out.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
For the MVP.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
Josh Allen, I feel as if it's a lock for
him just because of all the two or three different
things that are in his favor, especially one beating the record.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Is it a lock for Josh Allen in your opinion?
Speaker 5 (23:24):
Or can Lamar make a push even though he has
the better stats.
Speaker 7 (23:28):
Well, I'm just enjoying all of them. I'm not a
guy that has the hate on Michael Jordan to big
up Lebron. I hate on Lebron to big up Michael Jordan. Like,
I just like greatness and we're.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Like he was talking to you, Rob. I feel like
he was screaming at you, Rob when he.
Speaker 7 (23:40):
Said that you saw that's a blimbal. I'm just enjoying it.
I mean, I think John's is gonna win simply because
they lost Gabe Davis and Stefan Diggs and they're better
because of the way he's playing. I mean, he's really
not doing this with like a bunch of light top
echelon skill guys, So I mean it's impressive. I mean,
(24:00):
Lamar's doing this thing too. We'll see tomorrow. Lamar's Nelson
Aguilar's out, I think with Shan Bateman's out, so they
just cut Deontae Johnson, So Lamar's got another stage tomorrow.
But I mean, I still think sat Kawhan Barkley is
the best playing football this year, but I doubt if
he can win it over the two quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Yeah, I just don't. I don't see that either, even
though he's had some season.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
We know this has turned into excuse me, turned into
a quarterback basically award. I still think that Lamar has
a shot in this because his numbers are better, and
as you go on these last three games, he didn't
win it last year, shown until that Christmas Day game
in San Francisco last year where he blew out the
(24:42):
forty nine ers, and I think that is what pushed
him over the edge last year.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Would you agree up with that that that was the game?
Speaker 7 (24:49):
Absolutely? And that's why I didn't say on equivocally that
Allen Josh's won it. I mean, Lamar's playing tomorrow against
what the Steelers, and I think he bounces right back
on Christmas Day against it was that the Texas or
the Chiefs, the Texas Texans, right, I mean, he's got
two primetime games. If Josh Stubbs is told and Lamar
does something amazing, then it's not out of the question
(25:10):
he can win. I just think the storyline coming into
the season was before they ever played the game, we
were gonna see is Josh Allen really the real deal?
Because step Finnie got traded to the Texans, gave Davids
left and free agency to go to the Jags, and
they didn't really replace them. Even though they drafted the
young receiver from Florida State, he didn't come in with
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the same accolades as you know, Malik Neighbors and some
of those guys. By the way, remember I told you
before the draft Brian Thomas was the best rookie receiver
in this class. I think that's a great call on me.
But I didn't come down. We'll see, all right.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
No, I love how you. You got to remind us
every now and again. Remind us it's called proof of performance.
I'm all about it.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Yeah, with that, and no issue with that. You got to.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
Ask you about the Lions with all the injuries and whatnot,
and and obviously Dan Gamble.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
And all the other craziness.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
I just think for them to have to overcome so
many injuries, it just doesn't look like they're gonna.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Get there this year.
Speaker 7 (26:09):
First of all, they're a great story, and I think
it's a great test for a former player that just
has a different mentality at times than the traditional guys
who come up through coaching. What he can do to
an organization. I mean, this was a more bound like
this was a cat fish organization of them all. I
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mean that Detroit was awful before he got there, and
I mean he's changed the narrative. That city's behind him.
I do think he's gonna be his own worst enemy.
I think some of his decisions, you know, whether it
go for it, whether the kick field goals is gonna
come up and bite them. But I just love the story.
Can to overcome the injuries we'll see. I think them
having home field is going to be very important. I
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don't know a lot of it.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
Yeah, but they might not even get home field. The
Vikings are tied with them, they might not. That's the
whole thing. Can you imagine you go, you win eleven
straight games, you're twelve and two, and you not even
locking you haven't even locked up home field.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
That's amazing to me.
Speaker 7 (27:05):
Yeah, that these next week are reporting for a lot
of teams, Kansas City as good as they've been. If
they go want and two down the stretch and Buffalo
wins out, you know, Buffalo gets on field. So why
the NFL is king. There's a bunch of teams that
are still in it. Hell, the Bengals can still make
the playoffs. So I mean that's why the NFL is great.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Yeh, Sean King our guest, and Sean, let me ask
you this. I'm looking at. Uh, there's a half we.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
Kind of know the office, right you can say the Bills,
the Chiefs, the Lions. There's like four or five teams.
We all know what we talk about, the Eagles. Is
there a team you're looking at right now? You let
you says the Ravens to the Ravens to my bad,
make sure I get you, make sure I get your
guy up in there.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Is there a team you're looking at?
Speaker 5 (27:44):
Maybe it's the Chargers, off of incredible nights, comeback.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Win for them. A couple of crazy that is there.
Speaker 5 (27:50):
You know the Steelers are obviously, there are the Rams
if they get in, there are Commanders. Is there another
group of teams they're saying, hey, don't sleep on them.
The Buccaneers can be another one.
Speaker 7 (28:00):
Yeah, it's one in the AFC, it's one in the NFC.
You mentioned it's all started NFC Tampa Bay. They're gonna
get Chris Godwin back here at some point. And you know,
people forget they went to Detroit last year and you
know played them, you know, play for play. I think
the bust of Dangers come to playoffs. But I also
think Pittsburgh when George Pickens gets back and TJ Watts healthy,
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Pittsburgh is extremely dangerous. I think with Russell Wilson and
his experience and the way they play defense and the
quality they got on that sideline with Mike Tomlin, I
think Pittsburgh and Tampa would be the two teams and
both conferences that I think are dangerous once the playoffs start.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
Where you on the Chargers, Kelvin miss mentioned it, I'm
not a big I look at their record. They've mostly
beaten bad teams. Last night was an a different example.
I think they've beaten two teams over five hundred. Do
you buy into the Chargers or not.
Speaker 7 (28:54):
I think it's a great job by Harvard and year
one of kind of stabilizing the organization to Stalley, you know,
and his decision making. Tried to tell him down, but
they got to get some guys around Herbert. I mean
they let all their their Jaunston Eckler, Keenan Allen, Mike Williams,
they all left. They didn't really replace him. I mean,
you forget they drafted Quentin Johnson. It was before Haulball,
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but they took him over a Zay Flowers and Jordan Addison.
So they gotta get some better pass catchers. I think
this all season will be big for them. I think
there'll be more dangerous next year than this year.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
Yeah, they're definitely missing off, and they got a guy
who can throw that thing at Justin Herbert, but you
can tell at times he's like, well, who y'all want
me to throw it to.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
The Eagles?
Speaker 8 (29:36):
Hey?
Speaker 7 (29:37):
Yeah, okay? Watching the Chargers, guys, you gotta have like
the full lineup sit next to you because if God
catch a body on, who is that?
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Oh? Yeah, it's right, It's not only that. Hey what
about what about the crowd? What was it ninety ten? Uh? Denver?
I mean they got it. They got Chargers having a problem.
Speaker 7 (29:53):
Yea, the city of San Diego needs to do better.
There's no reason that Chargers shall be in l A again.
They will still be in San Diego with their own
fan base. They'll competing with too much in LA. They're like,
what the sixth professional team there? Right as far as
like Priority Trump know.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Anything about LA, it's a Dodgers Lakers town period.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
Just that's the problem with it. The money is the money.
You gonna make money regardless.
Speaker 7 (30:19):
Yeah, right, and the San Diego is to step, they
should have stepped. They gotta get a stadium there. I
want the charge to go back to San Diego. I
think that just from a fan support standpoint, they got
a better shot there of being significant than they do
in LA.
Speaker 5 (30:32):
Yeah, that's kind of like everybody wants to put a
team back in Seattle on the NBA, Like he's just
one of those fan bases. You want them to have something.
But yeah, these organizations, Sean, they make way too much
money in LA. That's why they don't mind losing and
being third, fifth, sixth place. That money they still can't
it still cashes in, It still goes into the bank. Sean, Man,
we appreciate it as always. You give us your couple,
give us your picks for this week.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
You got some picks.
Speaker 7 (30:55):
I don't have anything this week. I think the college
football playoffs is gonna play the form after the night.
I really think the favorites are gonna hold up. I
will say this about Tennessee. Ohio State is gonna come
down to three plays. Tennessee is going house and wide
receivers running open if their young quarterback Meeko can hit them,
Tennessee will win that game. He's been inconsistent throwing the
ball down the field. That'll determine the outcome. I think
(31:16):
Penn State's gonna roll SMU tomorrow. But again I'm picking.
I've got money on Board State and Arizona State to
win the national title. I'm back in two underdogs to
win this thing.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Now, you know that ain't happenings, Sean. You just you
got all those you got all those kids. Why are
you taking away there? This scholarship did college far? What
are you doing?
Speaker 8 (31:35):
Row? Rob?
Speaker 7 (31:36):
I want chaos. Little Fingers said it best in Game
of Thrones. Chaos is a ladder. I'm going Boise State
and Arizona State, one of those two to win it all.
Speaker 5 (31:45):
All right, well listen, I mean Boise State they mad,
they they run, they're running back getting win the highs
when they mad about it. So we'll see Sean Man,
thank you so much. We appreciate you, brother.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
I have a great weekend.
Speaker 5 (31:55):
Merry Christmas to us family, Mary, Christmas to your brother
as well. Hey you know what, Rob, there's sometimes this
is what we do, right there's we got to get
at somebody. We gotta get out a player or a team, organization,
even the league. At times, sometimes you gotta just show
somebody some love for an amazing story. And there is
one that was in the Sporting News today. Want to
(32:16):
talk about that. It is The Odd Couple. Fox Sports Radio,
kelvin Washington, Rob Parker on a funky flashback Friday.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Happy Holidays for you all. It's the Hot Couple.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
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This song always get you a little smile out of you, Rob,
you always get a little happy when this.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
One comes on.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
I see you month Ore. You are definitely you are
healed and back to normal. You look TV ready, where
I look like I'm sick. You know, I still like
a little rough. I'm going to the barber in the morning.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Yeah, I'm going to bor I'm going to barn tomorrow
as well.
Speaker 5 (33:02):
But I did do TV today, and honestly, I was
telling Rob g I didn't think I was gonna be
able to make it. I was kind of like, I
don't know I had you know how it goes when
you already scheduled an interview, and it was one of
those you gotta do it, you gotta be their type situations.
So I couldn't keep pushing these folks off. So I
was like, let me just go in. And I felt
better than I thought I would. So, Plus I got
a day or so ahead of you too, as far
(33:22):
as it's so, they had two day and a half ago. Dude,
I was who but yeah, feeling better. I do need
to get some food though, I need to get some
some something healthy, Rob YouTube man, hopefully you ain't been
eating walk.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
The first night that I came down with it. For dinner,
I had a steak, baked potato and corn, and you
know what, normally you lose your appetite.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
You know what I mean? Like, yeah, it was the opposite.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
I had a full meal and I had my taste
budgs er intact. So I was like, Okay, I could
deal with this. I just feel like a little bit
of a fall. I'm not today like today that's better,
but that that's all I was really feeling.
Speaker 5 (34:05):
Yeah, No, I get it, man, it is you know,
this is a season and everybody's sick too, dude. Everybody's
just different jobs of seeing people online posting, you know,
the little timeline on social media.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
I'm down, I'm not feeling well. I'm sick as a dog.
Speaker 5 (34:17):
And so it's funny because living in LA, we always
associate like having a cold with cold weather, right and
you with it in La to do with it has
nothing to do and you're like, why iver cold even
though it's seventy eight degrees out. It's like, dude, it's
just germs. It's just when they're spreading. It's it's just
when the viruses are going around. So uh, that is that.
(34:38):
But hey, I wanted to throw this at you.
Speaker 7 (34:40):
Man.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
You and I have been doing this for a while now,
a few months now, and everybody else you've been you know,
we've been talking about.
Speaker 5 (34:46):
Sports for years and years, and sometimes you just get
a cool story or a story of redemption where you're like, man,
you know what, I'm glad this is working out for somebody,
plain and simple, and that for me is Mike who
It was announced today that he is going to be
the new head coach at North Fall Stake, which is
a historically black college near his home in Virginia where
(35:09):
he's from.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
I got a number of friends who graduated from Norfolk State.
Speaker 5 (35:13):
Nice, nice, nice, nice, and he it was unanimous by
their board there and all the leaders there. And I
just remember this story, you know, ten twelve years ago,
where this thing was headed, where his life was literally
in prison, not in jail, not in it. Gotta go
do thirty days sit out in the county jail, two
(35:34):
years in prison, NFL one hundred million dollars strip from you.
Who knows if your wife's gonna stay with you, your kids,
do they love you, they hate you?
Speaker 1 (35:45):
You know, just going through it personal turmoil.
Speaker 5 (35:49):
And for him to find a way to sit in
that cell, take a hard look at himself, take accountability,
which is hard for all the humanity to do it.
It takes a really strong person to do that, and
then say let me fix it, let me better myself,
let me improve the situation.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
And you know this from.
Speaker 5 (36:09):
Being around people in the league, being around people in
the business. Everyone says he has been the model of contrition,
the model of redemption that goes from pet that goes
from the NFL folks to everything comes back gets under
Andy Reid.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Because I like Peter bread too.
Speaker 5 (36:27):
Okay, yeah, yeah, it is delicious. By the way, the
little hummus with it. You know what I'm saying. I
like my little red pepper hummus too. And in the league, says,
I mean, he comes back, becomes offensive, a comeback player
of the Year under Andy Reid, gets a great deal
in the NFL, makes some money back. Next thing you do,
he's working with Fox, you know, talking about the game.
He loves, you know, has been a spokesperson for Community
(36:49):
and Tea and then pet.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
And now he's doing this.
Speaker 5 (36:51):
I almost don't even care if he you know, he
may suck as a coach for two years.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (36:55):
But just to see this story in his bounce back, man,
it's been awesome for me because will not you and
I per se.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
But like you know, we come on to be bashing athlete.
He hain'te this. He should have never did that. Terrible,
that's you. I don't be bashing anybody. I just tell
the truth. Yeah right right. I don't look at it. No,
I'm not looking at his bashing people.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
I really don't. I don't whether people acknowledge it or not.
I don't If someone's great, I got I'll tell you
you're great, and I have no issues doing that, and
if you don't play up to par, to have no
issues doing that either. But I get your point on
Michael Vick, but I think he had a long history
of redemption already. I mean, you just talked about him,
Comeback Player of the Year, a new contract, he worked
(37:36):
for Fox, He's been on the Men and gotten a
lot of jobs and opportunities and rob g you know
this because he comes.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
On with us at the Super Bowls or whatever, and
the time that.
Speaker 4 (37:47):
I've been around him, I think he's just the nicest
guy in the world. And it doesn't I'm not trying
to get any points or doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
I'm just telling you, like, no, he really is way
to you or whatever. I'm telling you. He's one of
the nicest people I've ever met. He's just a nice guy.
I'm not sure you should.
Speaker 5 (38:07):
Be in a place where, By the way, if you
say somebody's a nice guy, you gotta like justify it.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
And like you know what I mean, Like that's that
people always think that you know, you're try.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Crazy say nice things about Michael Parsons. Next Fox Sports
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