August 15, 2025 • 40 mins
Rob and Kelvin explain why they'd never hire disgraced former-NFL head coach Jon Gruden to run a college football program, and tell us the real reason why the Cleveland Browns are still open to the idea of bringing Deshaun Watson back. Plus, FOX Sports Radio NFL insider Adam Caplan swings by to discuss the Browns' ongoing quarterback battle, the likelihood that the Cincinnati Bengals wind up missing the playoffs for a second consecutive season, his optimism level around Caleb Williams now that he's got so many new faces around him in Chicago, and much more!
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for that. Uh so we'll do that and much more
coming up. What do you have before we get to
the top. What do you have going this weekend with
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the family?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Anything?
Speaker 4 (01:44):
For three hundred subscribers. I just looked at our page.
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Speaker 3 (01:57):
I'm just saying it, just saying we're just giving facts, feelings,
just fact.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Just all facts with a cover sheet too.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
What is the facts?
Speaker 4 (02:04):
What is the big facts? No? No, no plans?
Speaker 1 (02:06):
This weekend, man, kind of back to it, you know,
feeling feeling good and get a haircut, wash you know,
you know.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Obviously we both were gone.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
You're back gone again, So kind of take care of
some errands and run around things that I wouldn't haven't
been able to do.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Throughout the week. So looking forward to that.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Man a little chill, you know, and Big Mike try
to maybe low key, don't tell nobody, maybe swing.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Some golf clubs this weekend.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Wow, Okay, that'll be fun out there and doing that.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Yes, And I'm gonna be going to do a little
vaca and I'll be back. And one thing I just
wanted to mention briefly and just so not this week,
the far.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
And we're I'm going to go to Hawaii by myself and
just reset.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
And I think I told you I'm going to unplugged,
basically plug my phone in the charge it no phone,
no social media or anything for three days.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
And you can do it. I want to read.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Yes, I'm gonna read, listen to music, get massages on
the beach. Maybe they'll put an apple in my mouth
like I'm a pig. I'll be eating like crazy. Alex,
what do you think am I going to be able
to do this? Reset? Because you know, Alex is happy
that I'm doing this because he thinks I'm I overdo it.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
It's true. So do you think I'll be able to
swing it?
Speaker 4 (03:21):
I think everything is kept to social media. I don't
buy that one why.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
But if I'm off my phone, I'm not going to
go on social media.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
No, I don't think you're going to post, but I
think you're going to be a lurker, Alex.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
You know how people always say no.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
No, that's just Lebron.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
That's why I had no argument there.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
Yeah, he's an egotistical maniac.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
He has to announce every time. Hey, yo, I'm about
to go zero dark thirty. You don't have to do it,
just just just do it. At this point, my gosh,
you never.
Speaker 5 (03:50):
Knows risk we've ever had on social media is this one.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
It's not simple.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Just so you know what, Alright, I'm doing a social
media clin They okay, we got it, Lebron, thank you.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
It's just like it's just like the guys and you
guys know this who really are are fighters, who are
real fighters. They don't announce that I'm gonna punch you
in the face, right, they walk up to you and punch.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
You in the face.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Dude, you ain't now.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
I'm gonna punch you in the face.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
You come ahead, keep keeping I'm gonna put other guys
who are serious and about it.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
They come up to you and they punch you in
the face.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Am I right, Calvert man, you ain't never I remember
we were kind of getting into it back in the
younger days. You know, these guys wanted a little smoke
and and a friend that's just say disappears and we're like,
where is our friend at dode We see him, he's
already walking towards him, no words, gun on the side
of him, taking his watch off, taking the thing off,
and there's no words. There was no I'm gonna do this.
(04:49):
He didn't even tell us. Rob just disappear and socks.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Somebody like, I'm just so right, but that those are fighters,
Those are guys who are I'm not gonna tell you.
I'm not gonna try to scare you into backing down.
I'm gonna hit you and then you'll hit me and
we'll have a fight.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
And that's how no doubt for so.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
Uh, well, enjoying the weekend whatever you get into. Brother.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Yes, So John Gruden we already talked about the other.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Day about uh the judge allowed this to go to
be a case not arbitration, So that was a victory
for John Gruden and all that.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
But Kelvin, you can set this up about.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
So he wants he wants to coach again exactly. So
he's been you know, he's with Barstool now. So he's
been running around, you know, talking right around, going out
these places, talking about the game with football. And he's
been this in different universities, and now he gets he's, uh,
he's hanging out where in the SEC and he basically
pulls up on Georgia and you know, Georgia has been
(05:50):
has been Georgia for the last decade or so, been
running at a really great football organization. And he basically goes
there essentially says, look, I'm gonna be real with y'all.
I'm here because I want to watch it, I want
to be around it, and ultimately I want to coach again.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
I ain't gonna BSU. I'm here for that.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
I love it and I want to coach and it'll
be awesome to coach in the SEC. Which leads us
to the conversation of will he coach one more thing?
Before we started, you got a lot of athletic directors,
some who anonymously have said that they had told CBS
Sports that they believe it's gonna be a challenge for
him to go to some big schools, but they do
believe he can get some of the schools outside of
(06:24):
the power Forward that might be able to you know,
take that that calculator risk look at.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Like that, like Cortina has to go to small route first.
I own on some small schools, right.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
And he had a prostitution thing going on at his
university and they act like it didn't happen, you know
what I mean, Like ultimately, and then he wound up
at Saint John's, who are just desperate to turn their
program around.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
We know we can coach. He's just not the character
for kids.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
And I'm gonna say the same thing about John Gruden
anybody who sits there and says.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Well, he deserves a second jail. All that.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
I want you to really go back and reread the
stuff that he was writing. And homophobic, racist against women,
against gay people, just vile and awful stuff. And when
people stand up and go, I know, John Grooen, that's
(07:22):
not weird, but you don't hear that really.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
So when nobody was looking, because he thought.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Those emails nobody would ever see except for his friends.
When nobody's looking, that's who you really are. When nobody's looking.
That's the scary part. She's chucky. He's cheesing everybody, and
he's the football coach, and let me tell you about
quarterbacking and come on, kid and get on the board
(07:51):
and all that.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Behind closed doors. The stuff I dare you.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
I don't dare you, I triple dare you to read
that stuff and act like that's okay.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
And he made one, he's made one slip up and
no he did not.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
This dude from reading that is a sick individual in
my opinion, because I just I could never hear me
Kelvin ever imagine saying that, and let alone writing it
and sending it to other people.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
I couldn't go read it. Go read it.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
If you think we're making a big deal. I wish.
I asked Rob G today, could I say the words?
I can't do it, okay, but you get.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
I'm going to when you when you're I'm gonna allude
to some of the words you're talking, but you.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
If you read them, and if we were to say
the words and.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Read them over and over so that you could see
what this guy is about in his head, it's disgusting
and he wants to go be with college kids.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Oh God, This is what's disappointing about the Gruden and stuff.
I think it is an American way. We want to
build you up, break you down, and give you a
chance to be built up again. I think America wants
to give you second chances. You made mistakes. I made mistakes.
He they she everybody makes mistakes. The difference with this
one is a couple of things. Number One, you if
you go through anybody's text their emails, eventually you might
(09:23):
find something that was all right, you probably shouldn't have
said that, or ooh, that wasn't a good one. What
you're not gonna find is the full gambit of everything.
That's my issue with this.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
Rob.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Somebody might have said a joke that between their friends
and email about something okay, and you can be like, yo,
I apologize for that. Me and my friends I got
carried away.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
That was wrong. We all can understand that.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Because if you go through and parts do everyone's emails,
text message, you're gonna find something you didn't like or
was inappropriate.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
This was the full gambit.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
He wasn't just sexist, like oh man, women this women
shouldn't because it was a lot of it was about
women shouldn't be referees, okay, and then you go all right, Hey,
that was sexist me. I went through some counseling. I
can get better. We are all right, you know. He
he knocked out gays, women, blacks, calling other people names,
talk about dmor Smith, who was the I used to
run the NFLPA. He talked about Drea Goodell called him
(10:12):
the F word. Roger Goodell called him the F word.
And we don't mean the four letter word, if you
know what we're talking about. And I'm glad you led
to that, because that was going to be an example
of something. If this were nineteen eighty eight, nineteen ninety two,
people used to say that word in a way and
it didn't even mean it in a homophobic word. They
just were using like you know, if somebody did something,
you're being goy or something else. Then you realize you mature, Rob,
(10:35):
you grow, and you say, you know, I shouldn't say that.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
I don't know the last time I said.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
That word, Rob, Thank you. I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
I mean, I mean even in my text messages, even
th like like I don't even.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Know the last like I'll tell you this, I've never
written that in my text message.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
That's what I'm saying, like it's just so for him
to fill that free with it. And again, if that's
just one word and he was just me and my
guy guys, it's that he knocked out every category. He
was like, who else can I offend? Let me think,
Let me think, let me think, let me see, let me.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Talk about black people and their enormous lips.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Their enormous lips there Michelin tires sized lips he talked about,
I mean and called you know, Goodell the F word,
called him a clueless anti football P word. I mean,
he knocked out the talking about here's another one. How
they he talking about Goodell and the NFL shouldn't have
forced Jeff Fisher to have to draft that Q word.
(11:32):
I don't even know we can say it in this context?
Speaker 4 (11:34):
Uh you know? Uhi, Michael Sam. So like that's my issue.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
We all need forgiveness, we all need grace, we all
can learn from our mistakes and improve. But when he's
that old, that age, that flagrantly saying this about multable
groups including his I guess boss and Goodell, it's like,
come on, man, and you tie that to colleges where
what are colleges of kids from wear rop all over
(12:02):
the world.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
You don't even know, and you don't know different sexualities,
do you know?
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Do you know?
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Right?
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Like that, like that's what you're harboring. You don't know,
like that whole football macho thing. You don't know who's who.
You don't know that in the locker room, you don't
know who's.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Talking about Michael Sam.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
He might go down to Michael Sam's if you will,
you know, thank you, there might be eight Michael Sam's
in your locker room and they just I'm in public
with it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
And we keep finding that out.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
More and more guys come out afterwards and say I
didn't want to talk about it.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
Then yeah, you know, I'm gay.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
I hate it then or I this that or one
other couple of the teammates knew but I didn't tell.
Every point is I'm not saying he can't go off
and run an amazing insurance company, car dealership. Hey, he
wants to just start his own John Gruten barstool spin off.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Go do that.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
That's why he deserves to be a barstool, just right.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
But the idea that I have to bring him into
a university with all of that baggage.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
Bruh.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
You know how you go to an airport, you're getting ready
to go down a flight. Here soon you bring a
blag or two. The brother bought ten twelve things a
baggage and that.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
And if he brought it to Spirit by the way
that they would charge him, they'd be out of dollars.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
They wouldn't they would never have to charge any of
us again. In most baggs he's he has. So that's
my whole point, Rob, I walk in forgiveness. I want
to give everybody a second chance, and I want.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
You but this you could have a second chance. You
could work. Get what he is. He's got a job
in football. He's doing something. I don't want him around kids.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
I don't want him around university, which is about trying
to help spear the minds of young That's.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
What I'm talking about. I could have a job. I'm
with you.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
People deserve second chances. But to be a leading kid.
That's why I was against the whole Rick Patino thing.
To act like you don't know prostitutions going on in
your basketball dorm and uh, your your basketball grat assistant
making thirty five thousand dollars is footing the bill for
the prostitution.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Really really, it's like, come on, man, and over time
you leave somewhere, Rob, there's it's not in his program, right,
There's always something. So yeah, John Gruden, man, like I said,
you can't. He knocked out everything. He was like what
offends people?
Speaker 4 (14:11):
What? What a groups? Can I fin?
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Give me the whole and he just took an offensive
spray gun and knocked them all out at once, like
got lee, John.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Well, we want to get as many people in on
this because I want to see where you are on
the John Gruden eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox
eight seven seven nine nine six sixty three sixty nine.
If you ran a college program, would you consider hiring
John Gruden to be your next head coach?
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Is very simple, yay or nay?
Speaker 3 (14:37):
And why we'll continue this conversation next with you. It
is the Odd Couple on a funky Flashback Friday, Rob
Parker kelvin Washington, and you know what you need to do, stick.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
And stay because unfortunately for Gruden, we can all read
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My daughter started a second day today. Ridicul that's ridiculous.
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Speaker 2 (15:58):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Can they wait till after Labor Day like they do
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check them out. Adam kaplan about seven minutes away, Robin,
I want to take some calls eight seven, seven ninety
nine on Fox.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
I think you just go ahead.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
I want to go.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
I'm sorry, Yeah, I'm going to say the reports I
want to get. I knew when that song first played
that that was something I never heard and reacted like that.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
I called my sister in the room, Robin, and said, Robin,
listen to this like that like that? Yeah, And we
looked it at the boom box, you know, looked at
it together as a song was playing, and I was like,
what is this like that?
Speaker 2 (16:59):
That's that's what it was. I'll never forget that.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Day took the world by storm, obviously and changed the
game in history and music. Hasn't been the same when
you talk about having of hip hop and how commercial
and blew up it did after that, Adam Kaplan in
a few minutes as well. All right, Rob and I
talking about John Grud and look I said it, Rob,
America loves to build you up, break you down, build
you up, give you.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Off for second chances and forgiveness.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
But Daggie de.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Kate knock out everybody and knock out every group and
disrespect everybody. And they want to go coach universities where
you're gonna get a multitude of people who may be
different esthen cit in these different faith, different sexuality, different this,
different eco economic backgrounds and everything. You can't do that
to everybody. So good luck with barstools. You got a
bunch of money for the NFL. You'll be fine. John Grud,
(17:46):
I think you echoed the same sentiment. It's eight seven,
seven ninety nine on Fox.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
Who we got Let's.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Start with Eric in Texas. You're on the odd couple
of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
What's up? Eric?
Speaker 8 (17:55):
What up? What Kevin?
Speaker 4 (17:57):
You guys doing?
Speaker 5 (17:57):
Man?
Speaker 4 (17:57):
What's up? It was good?
Speaker 8 (18:00):
Look, I'm with y'all, oney and ten percent. Don Rude
should not.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Get a head coach and job.
Speaker 6 (18:05):
Really, it's a privilege to be a head coach, to
lead men, to lead adult men.
Speaker 8 (18:10):
Right, Like, that's a privilege and an honor.
Speaker 9 (18:12):
He lost that privilege and honor.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
And I'll say this too, I don't feel sorry for
him at all, because you know, the even if that
Charlo is going public now and he thinks the NFL.
Speaker 9 (18:21):
Colluded to to get him, you.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
Know, fourth them out basically, Okay, so what you still
set all those heinous right right, I'm with you.
Speaker 8 (18:30):
I don't feel sorry for you, Like, what is this like?
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Right? Did it?
Speaker 3 (18:35):
The NFL didn't make up the emails, right and then
plant them on you?
Speaker 2 (18:39):
You wrote these.
Speaker 8 (18:41):
They weren't even looking for him, they were looking at Washington.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
It's his fault, like he got I.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Don't feel sorry for John Gruden at all. I don't
lose at one ounce of sleep over John Green is
his fault.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
And I'm honestly surprised he's even getting.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Like talking engagements with teams, Like I'm honestly surprised he
didn't even back in that realm mind. Well, because a
lot you got to remember, it's very ancestral. A lot
of them have gotten jobs from John and their this's
a fraternity and the good will not turn up. Yep,
they will not turn their back because they might be
in the hot water and need help and it's bad.
(19:13):
That's what happens, Tim, Chili, Tim in Atlanta, you're in
the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
That's right. What's up, Chili?
Speaker 9 (19:21):
Well whatever, I but Kelvin, one quick thing. You know,
you guys are talking the first You know, there's guys
that have to get ready and those guys that stay ready.
Those are the stay ready ones you gotta watch out for.
But when you talk about the fighting part, uh oh yeah,
well yeah, Two quick things about John Gulden. First of all,
like I know he's saying there's other people and everything.
(19:44):
I hear people like stephen A and c oh second chance.
But my thing is this and this just could be me.
But like I could wonder about you, but once I know,
I can never forget. It will always be there in
my head. Once you show me who you are, I
don't care what you go through is always going to
be there. The thought will always be in my head.
(20:05):
So he can go through this thing. And like you said, Kelvin,
he insulted everybody he could find. It's like he went
and dug up people that he could find to insult.
So no, and then number two, my dand ones told
me too, He says, son, don't let your talent take
you where your character won't allow you to stay. John
Gruden had the talent, he just doesn't have the character
(20:26):
to stay in those times.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
There you go, man, how about Steve and Kentucky. You're
on the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Steve?
Speaker 8 (20:35):
Steve jell is always great to hear you, and I
agree with what you said. I just have one small
thing that might put the monkey in the ranch alumni.
It's alumni that may think like him, that would pressure
with money.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
No doubt, Steve, no doubt about it, No doubt about it, Steve.
And that's why these things happen. And that's why he's
very public. He thinks somebody will give him a chance
and they probably agree with some of the stuff that
he said and don't see anything wrong with it. And
and we'll blame other people for his downfall as a
football coach. And the other thing. So, Steve, you're you're
(21:14):
spot on. And here's the other thing. Not like he
other than winning that championship. But he took over Tony
Dungeon's team. Go look at his record and how good
of a coach he was he won that good.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Yeah, he's not that good Bie Belichick asking for get
your or or Bill Walsh or something like that, or
you know this is he's slightly I mean, listen, he's
still hanging off of hanging up on that un that
same championship team. Yeah, that one championship that we all
questioned if it was donee or not. So uh yeah,
we're on the same page with that, all right. We
got Adam kaplan in just a moment here right now,
(21:46):
Steve Saga, gonna get you six team trainding. Hey, Steve
that this is Steve the second, not the other.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
Steve just called me.
Speaker 10 (21:52):
Milwaukee's won twelve in a row. They were down eight
to one at Cincinnati in the second inning. It's now
eight eight in the top.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Of the fifth.
Speaker 10 (21:59):
The Brewer starting pitcher Tonight young All Star Jacob Mazerowski
off the il to start Tonight last in an inning
and a third.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
But it's a tie.
Speaker 10 (22:07):
Game in the fifth because Christian Yelich Brewers DH is
already three to three, four RBIs and a solo homer.
Philly still tied two two at Washington top of the seventh.
Rangers up three to nothing at Toronto in the top
of the fifth, with Jacob de Gram on the mound,
Marlin's lead one nothing at Boston top of the sixth
inning the Mariners.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
Cal Rawley is hitt his.
Speaker 10 (22:27):
Forty sixth home run of the season, but at the
end of four the Mets are leading the Mariners six
to four. Two home runs for Francisco Lindor. Juan Soto
has hit his thirtieth of the year. Tigers at Twins
in a rain delay at the start. Yankees are leading
three to nothing after the top of the first at
Saint Louis Jazz chishom a two run homer RBI ground
(22:48):
out for Aaron Judge is eighty ninth RBI among the
late games. In an hour and a half, the Dodgers,
who've lost four in a row, have Clayton Kershaw six
and two on the mound against San Diego's Wandy Peralta,
who's five and one. Padre pitcher Michael King is on
the injured list with knee inflammation. The Padres have won
five in a row they've taken over first in the
NL West, a game ahead of the Dodgers, and LA
(23:10):
third baseman Max Munsey goes on the injured list with
a strained oblique. There are a couple of NFL exhibitions tonight.
One in progress minute till halftime. It's Tennessee six' three
At Atlanta. Titans only scoring came on a pick six
Against Easton, stick who's played the first half at quarterback
for The, falcons and Cam ward did start for The
(23:30):
titans two of, seven passing forty two, yards most of
that on the first. Throw the late game will have
The chiefs at The seahawks back to.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
You all, right here Is, Steve thank, You, steve appreciate.
You It' seia.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Couple Robin kelvin on a Funky Flashback, friday joined by our,
Guy Adam, Kaplan Fox Sports, RADIO Nfl Insider, KAPLIN nfl
ON X Adam.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Man what's, Up Happy? Friday what's?
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Happened and how are?
Speaker 5 (23:53):
You and, Yeah i'm just rolling. THROUGH i got one
more week of a little tour next week and we'll
get ready for the regular.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Season all, Right let's just go To cleveland and start
there AND i go ahead, Man, SORRY i, know, yes
The cleveland situation and the, injuries and Now Deshaun watson
might be in the mix as. Well look he might.
Play you, know there's a lot of stuff going. On
(24:19):
what do you make of?
Speaker 5 (24:20):
This, Yeah, watson this is highly unlikely he'll be. Ready but,
look the problem Is Kenny, pickett he's real. CLOSE i
don't get the sense he'll be ready for. Tomorrow it'll
Be Tyler. Huntley, uh Probably Dylan. Gabriel Joe flack was
not expected to. Play Shured dore is a long ways.
Away even before the oblique, injury he wasn't even close
to being. Ready despite what other people. Thought being with
The browns this, WEEK i mean they liked that he
(24:42):
started to progress a little. Bit the tape was okay last.
Week did some good. Things some things he's got to work.
On but, look this is a long term project For
Shuder sanders that that's the way they look at. It
they're not going to rush. It barring something highly. Unforeseen
flacka will Start week. One Dylan gabriel is a, kid you,
know he's the third rounder out Of. ARGUON i saw
the senior. Ball they want to take a bigger look.
(25:04):
At but you know they do it. Technically and by the,
way they technically have six quarterbacks on their fifty three men.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Roster now let me ask you. This, okay they're not
keeping FOR i still Think shador will be.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
Cut, NO i don't think.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
So who are you? Cutting who are you?
Speaker 5 (25:19):
Cunning watson won't play the, Season he'll be on Introvers, okay.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
So we Got, watson but they have four.
Speaker 5 (25:23):
Guys, right they'll, move they'll, move they'll leave. Picket, yeah
they'll they'll look the. Move you're gonna Keep you're.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Gonna keep two rookie quarterbacks with the old guy with
the chance that you.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
Could he's just, saying, RIGHT i hear you that that
doesn't make sense to keep. Two, YEAH i hear. You
they may be forced to. Keep they may be forced
to keep. Four now that the question is can they
Get Dylan gabriel ready to be the? Backup it's probably
a long. SHOT i don't see them Cutting. SANDERS i
just don't based on kind of What i've, heard you,
(25:54):
know was with The browns two days this week With
eagles and joint. PRACTICES i can You, pickett look at
If santors Or gabriel could have been more advanced That
pickett certainly would. Be they'd Move picket still could be.
Moved but then the problem, is you make a good.
Point the two young kids aren't ready yet to be
the backup right. Around that's what's. Scary watson was stop
playing the. Season that's What i'm.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
SAYING i Think Kenny pickett has a slot because you
got an old quarterback in flat, though you know WHAT i,
mean he could get hurt in week one and now
What and if you're the coach IN, gm you want
your season to go down and flame with two young,
quarterbacks you know WHAT i?
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Mean who want? Ready that doesn't make sense to. Me
and by the, way their hope.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
Was, okay their hope was That Dylan gabriel would have
been ready to be the. Backup he's. Naughty he just
got back from. Injury that's been the. Problem picket's been,
Hurt gabriel's been. Hurt should or just got already wasn't
ready yet, Anyway so, yeah it's more. Quarterbacks no teams
weren't four quarterbacks on the roster until we got To.
Cleveland but you know, what they feel good about a
bunch of Things Cedria. Tillman you guys a little bit over,
(26:57):
fifty probably remember his, Dad Cedria tillman junior or. Senior
excuse me for The broncos picking In. Shanahan they feel,
good they're gonna get quinche On, judkins who's not gonna
be charged with anything off the. Field he's gonna be back.
Soon osana's rookie contract show he'll be their starting running.
Back Mason graham their first round pick out Of, michigan
d Tackle Carson schweshinger their middle line background of, Course Miles. Garrett,
(27:20):
Guys i've covered these joint practices or practices really for
twenty one. Years with my twenty seven years Of carl's.
Business he probably put one of the best Shows i've
ever seen for a defensive. End was he just trementded The, eagles,
who by the, way have arguably the NFL's best offensive.
Line he's unbelievable this.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Week, YEAH i, mean he's a grown, man and that's
why he obviously is. Paid Adam kaplan our guest, couple
Rob In, kelvin, right that's why he got out of.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
Money let's go speaking of, money let's just stay. There
what's going? On In Cincinnati.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Bengals Tray hendrickson is there seems like maybe they're echine
closer to.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
Something this is.
Speaker 5 (27:51):
Something's going to get done before the end of the
by the time week one. Starts i'll give you an, example,
guys how things can.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Change so four years, AGO.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
Tj watt had a hold him, right he didn't get
his contract The, steelers and they don't like doing. This
they actually signed him to an extension leaving up they
sign him on THAT i Think friday Or saturday before
their first. Game, okay that could happen. Here they're going
to get something. Done they know they have.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
To The.
Speaker 5 (28:19):
Bengals there was a lot of criticism around the league
for them deciding to change courts WITH T higgins and
they decided to sign him make him the highest paid
number two receiver for The national Foot league already Having
Jamar chase the highest paid receiver The NATIONAL Footb league
at the. Time, that, guys that was. Surprising that was not.
Smart now they're a team that they. Got they don't
(28:40):
know who they are identity. Wise, defensive they're not very.
Good at some weeks they were not. Competitive that's why
they Fired Lou. Anabroumo their their defensive. Coordinator Al, golden
the Former miami head coach And temple head coach the
new defense. Coordinator they're open for better.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Results.
Speaker 5 (28:55):
Guys they are team that's going to have to score
like thirty five forty points a game to win based
on what they. Got not very good in the. Secondary
IT'S i don't quite understand their team, building rob to
be honest with. That it's just just not the way to.
Go it doesn't make any. Sense last, Year kelvin AND
i talk about this all the. Time Adam Joe burrow
threw nine touchdowns against The ravens last year and lost both.
(29:19):
Games and they're going out signing, receivers you know WHAT i?
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Mean it makes no sense to. Me where is the?
Speaker 5 (29:24):
Defense and plus their offensive lines are very. Good so
here's what's happened here on. Defense let them expand this
a little bit to give some. Context so they have
the late sign Of Schamar stewart right their first round,
pick which was, embarrassing but they got it. Done Miles,
murphy who was the first rounder From clemson three years,
ago is not pan.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Out he's been a.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
Disappointment Sam, hubbard who starred tops A Trey henderson suddenly
retires in the. Spring that came out of. Nowhere they
were not expecting that now before he's. Thirty, so, yeah
they got. Problems. Guys this is not a very good
defense to begin. With begel fans deserved. Better they have
not done a good enough job of team. Bill that's
the term that for an officer's. Used it's typically you
(30:03):
have a, philosophy you have a franchise Quarter Joe burrow to,
me is ahead Of if we were doing quarterback, Rankings
i'd Ranking i'd rank him ahead Of. Mahomes but what
are you doing to protect the guy They've they also
have not done a good job on their offensive.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Line speaking of quarterbacks justin, fields what are you expecting from?
Him because the reports out Of jets camp were not
good early.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
On that's What i'm.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
Told, yeah it's it's you, know it's it's a guy
who's never really developed In. Chicago he had a couple
of different quarterback, coaches a couple of different, coordinators, right
and you know the coaching there the last couple of,
years they Don't they didn't develop, him they didn't coach him.
Hard he needs discipline the way he, plays he's got
a first time play.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Caller can he delivered the ball consistently the?
Speaker 4 (30:47):
Arm?
Speaker 2 (30:48):
YEAH i, look, guys here's the problem with this.
Speaker 5 (30:52):
Guy you make a commitment basically on contract, structure it's.
Hard it's gonna be hard to move him after if
he's thanks the, season which is entirely, possible or being very.
Inconsistent they're not happy with him by contract. Structure, right
they guaranteed ten million of his twenty million dollars sally
for next. Season they're already paying him this season twenty,
million which it's not a lot for a starting. Quarterback
(31:16):
but they're committing thirty million over two. Years it's fully.
Guaranteed not. Smart they should have Got they should have
paid in all year, one not nothing in the year.
TWO i just don't like the way that they addressed.
This and you, know they could have hedged their. Bet
there's nothing wrong with drafting a quarterback in addition to
getting fields here where they knew he's going to be
a starter, anyway they didn't draft.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
Anyone that was a.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Mistake they should have drafted a quarterback this.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Season he Is Adam.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Kaplan our guests on the couple a couple more off
squeeze in at least one more for me, Here.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
Bob, adam let me stay with.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Quarterbacks the heis have Been trophy, winner number one, pig
best Since andrew blah blah.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
Blah here we are With Caleb. WILLIAMS i think he is,
well most people think as.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Well he's immensely. Talented but you're hearing more and. More
you're hearing about the processing struggling with it looks. Bad
but first first, yeah first team getting pulled off of
the field five for.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
Seventeen with, fans there's like a fan.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Fest how are you throwing the interceptions and basketball shorts
AND t?
Speaker 5 (32:11):
Shirts what's going on With? Caleb, yeah it's this offense
is kind of complicated With Ben. Johnson, Uh but the
good thing is he's such a great quarterback. Developer he does,
guys which he does what's called coaching. Hard you're not
gonna have to wait long to see if it's gonna
work With Caleb willmas At Ben. Johnson Ben johnson won't
put up with heat the problem with last year With.
(32:33):
Chicago i'm not gonna throw any coaches specifically under the.
Bus i'll just tell you the coach was poor last.
Season they fired the offensive coordator last. Season that all
bunch of coaching, changes And SE's Matty ebrifletes did a
terrible job in terms of developing that. QUARTERBACK i know
he's a defensive, guy but he didn't surround him with
guys who've developed quarterbacks well. Enough and he's behind man
and this is kind of. Ugly, now you're right With
(32:56):
Caleb wyams being very. Talented he really, Is but the
problem is he ran a different offense in college on
AT usc on A Cliff kingsbury, this so he's got
a long way to go. Here they're very talented offense.
Guys they've completely revamped their, interior their offensive, line three new.
Starters it's not going to be the offensive lines. Problem
(33:16):
it's Where Caleb williams. Goes and he's he is behind right,
now he's He's they got three weeks to get him.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Ready, okay here's my hot, take last one for. Me
lions do not make the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
Easy, benny do you know what's?
Speaker 5 (33:29):
Funny you know it's. Funny, WELL i don't know about.
THAT i don't have them winning that. DIVISION i have
TO i vote in two. POLLS i don't have him
winning that. Division to shock you, Here i'm probably gonna
go With Minnesota. Wow, yeah, yeah and unbelievable, defensively, no, offensively.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
And they have.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
Weapons they run the, football they do a lot of
stuff and if the Quarterback adam doesn't turn the ball
over you know WHAT i, mean and.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
That don't run and.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Way, yes they run it really. Well but but let
me ask you about The. Lions you know you changed two.
Coordinators that's a big. Deal they're banged. Up they got
some injuries And Jared golf turned Into Jared tennis when
it met at.
Speaker 5 (34:10):
Most, Hey i'm a tennis, player Say i'm just saying
like that scares.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Me he's, yeah, well here's.
Speaker 5 (34:17):
Okay he did employe in that playoff game and gets washing,
them but they put you too much on. Him the
problem with them is. Defensively you've got a first time
play caller And Kelvin. SHEPPARD i know he's a smart.
Guy they like. Him he's the linebackers, coach but he's
never called plays. Before you've got a secondary which could
cover anyone late in the. SEASON i don't. KNOW i
worry about their. Secondary their past rush is my number one.
(34:39):
Problem hutchinson had coming off a major. Injury he looks
good from What i'm, told but they lack a second
and a third pass. Rusher they have a lot of. Problems, Guys,
brob you AND i have seen it the same. Way
we're probably in the minority on this, one But i'm
not doing. It, Yeah i'm gonna Be i'm gonna put
my my uh my neck on the line with this.
One i'm Gonna i'm gonna Pick, minnesota which is not
gonna be a popular pick to be by the.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
Odds make.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
NO i agree that express How adam And rob this,
IS i Will. Rob we already have wings on. It
it'll be the easiest Wings i've ever. Bet, adam you
want to join in on his?
Speaker 4 (35:08):
Wing.
Speaker 5 (35:09):
Bet i'm a, vegan SO i don't bet, wings BUT
i bet you, Also.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
Well you go a little hey buffalo, chicken we.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Say, Tan, yeah you got.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
It, yeah you guys are give me some toful wings or.
Speaker 5 (35:21):
Something you guys toft have you?
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Been how long have you been a?
Speaker 5 (35:25):
Vegan So i'm down forty. Five, rob we haven't seen
each other in ten. Years so when you WHEN i
left The, men WHEN i LEFT, DESPN i was two.
Fifty i'm about two o. Seven, wow. Congrats, yeah, MAN
i had to get my feel good as in. Shape,
YEAH i do BECAUSE i played tennis four days a,
week so stay in. SHAPE i had to man. It
as you get, Older rob AND i are close to
the same.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Age i'm, yes you know, it you got. It you
got to do.
Speaker 5 (35:46):
It, Yes icato AND i took responsibility and, UH i
took the slow route to lose weight and try TO
i called. IT i don't wouldn't didn't want to do
the get rich that you did the right to four.
Years it took me four years to do. IT i
did it, slow eight to ten pounds a, year AND
i was a way to.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Go, no that's a good N. G he just took
a shout of ron because you are gess on O
zempig taking the. Needle you know my wife's on. Something,
YEAH I.
Speaker 5 (36:11):
U i used to lose it app, too WHICH i need,
accountability which which helped.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
Us.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Well, right all, right my man always adam easy, money
GET i can't wait to get my toeful wings or.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
Whatever.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Talk, well we'll review.
Speaker 5 (36:24):
This by quarters every time we're on. Together, OKAY i
know we're gonna be on a. Lot so we're gonna by, quarter,
Guys we're gonna see where we're at with.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
This all, Right so wings coming by.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
WAY i love.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
IT i got to come up in my. Mouth you
guys talking about fake chicken.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
Wings, yeah, Well i'll get real ones from you and
vegan from. Him all, right thank, You. Adam, well we
got to hit this one To. Rob uh The.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Browns, listen we just talked about it a moment. Ago
The browns are. Browning we'll. Explain it's The couple Of
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got to talk about this new information about RETIRED nfl
players and it was a big time poll that was,
done a survey. Done we really haven't seen one of
this magnitude that had been done away from THE. Nfl
So rob AND i have get on that a little bit.
Later and, Also George reister Aka, wrongster it's gonna join
us the.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
Next hour as. Well. Rob that's our, Guy George reister.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
Looking you, know he loves that. Name, Anyway he's wrong a.
Lot it's just you can't. Help But george be right
and we'll call you by your correct.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
Name, Yep so we'll do that as. Well.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Rob couple minutes before we got to break again here real,
quick we were talking To Adam kaplan just About Deshaun
watson And i'll just throw my little two cent on.
THAT i, think first of, All browns have way too many.
Quarterbacks The brown still owe him ninety two million. Dollars
so that's.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Why that's. What if they really wanted him to be,
gone they.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
Could have just, said we don't care about your, rehab
and we just, yeah we made a.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
Mistake they want too much.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Money so as soon as he's, healthy he's going to
play quarterback for.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Them he.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
Is he is absolutely gonna get at least a. Chance
but what makes it interesting is this dude was A
mvp candidate two three years. Ago people were calling him super.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Years, ago more than nice three ago.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
Three but, yeah but now he when you look at
the numbers of what he was doing last, Year rob
was actually embarrassing what he was doing because you would, say,
man if you're, him you'd, say, man IF i just
got a, Shot i'm telling you he was never.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
Back he was he was never, Back like that's the
thing that's. Crazy Never he had a couple of like
a couple, games BUT i mean.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
Back he was never.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Back one in five in the six starts that he,
got he never threw over two hundred passing. Yards his
QB R rop was like some of our listeners, age
it was twenty, Two like that's.
Speaker 4 (39:41):
Crazy it was like the girls who like twenty.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
Two the only player with the fifteen points of him
was another player who lost the job in the first.
Speaker 4 (39:50):
Year will left too said twenty. Two, okay all, right
that twice is the ones you like the. More all,
Right so maybe you're split the. Middle you'll be like
Will levis's. Kilbr there you go To, alice we're, good
get the, cough, go well we got. There you know
you got.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
That so he was just awful rob when he got his.
Chance that's the THING i think that was scary to,
me was you, know if you're, thinking if you're, Man
i'm just clamoring to get, back give me my. Shot,
well when he got his, shot he looked. Awful he's
at the WORST qb and got in THE.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
QBR i, Agree but he's going to get a shot
back in there because they owe him all.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
That MONEY i ain't GETTING i. Ain't you ain't cut
Them illitch making ninety two million dollars.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
Right otherwise you would have just cut him and just
said we're gonna spread out the loss over five years
whatever it, is right and just move.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
On but they haven't done, That so that tells.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
You so he's gonna get a shot all the reports
are that he looks, great doing great things in and
out the building ninety two million.
Speaker 4 (40:46):
Dollars you dang all. Right he might get another shot
at some. Point
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forget coming up adam kaplan coming up at the bottom
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for that. Uh so we'll do that and much more
coming up. What do you have before we get to
the top. What do you have going this weekend with
(01:43):
the family?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Anything?
Speaker 4 (01:44):
For three hundred subscribers. I just looked at our page.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Okay, yeah, so we got we're moving on up, move
and on up. Yeah, and I think we have any
uh any rivals by the way out there that.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
I'm just saying it, just saying we're just giving facts, feelings,
just fact.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Just all facts with a cover sheet too.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
What is the facts?
Speaker 4 (02:04):
What is the big facts? No? No, no plans?
Speaker 1 (02:06):
This weekend, man, kind of back to it, you know,
feeling feeling good and get a haircut, wash you know,
you know.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Obviously we both were gone.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
You're back gone again, So kind of take care of
some errands and run around things that I wouldn't haven't
been able to do.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Throughout the week. So looking forward to that.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Man a little chill, you know, and Big Mike try
to maybe low key, don't tell nobody, maybe swing.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Some golf clubs this weekend.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Wow, Okay, that'll be fun out there and doing that.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Yes, And I'm gonna be going to do a little
vaca and I'll be back. And one thing I just
wanted to mention briefly and just so not this week,
the far.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
And we're I'm going to go to Hawaii by myself and
just reset.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
And I think I told you I'm going to unplugged,
basically plug my phone in the charge it no phone,
no social media or anything for three days.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
And you can do it. I want to read.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Yes, I'm gonna read, listen to music, get massages on
the beach. Maybe they'll put an apple in my mouth
like I'm a pig. I'll be eating like crazy. Alex,
what do you think am I going to be able
to do this? Reset? Because you know, Alex is happy
that I'm doing this because he thinks I'm I overdo it.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
It's true. So do you think I'll be able to
swing it?
Speaker 4 (03:21):
I think everything is kept to social media. I don't
buy that one why.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
But if I'm off my phone, I'm not going to
go on social media.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
No, I don't think you're going to post, but I
think you're going to be a lurker, Alex.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
You know how people always say no.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
No, that's just Lebron.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
That's why I had no argument there.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
Yeah, he's an egotistical maniac.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
He has to announce every time. Hey, yo, I'm about
to go zero dark thirty. You don't have to do it,
just just just do it. At this point, my gosh,
you never.
Speaker 5 (03:50):
Knows risk we've ever had on social media is this one.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
It's not simple.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Just so you know what, Alright, I'm doing a social
media clin They okay, we got it, Lebron, thank you.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
It's just like it's just like the guys and you
guys know this who really are are fighters, who are
real fighters. They don't announce that I'm gonna punch you
in the face, right, they walk up to you and punch.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
You in the face.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Dude, you ain't now.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
I'm gonna punch you in the face.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
You come ahead, keep keeping I'm gonna put other guys
who are serious and about it.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
They come up to you and they punch you in
the face.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Am I right, Calvert man, you ain't never I remember
we were kind of getting into it back in the
younger days. You know, these guys wanted a little smoke
and and a friend that's just say disappears and we're like,
where is our friend at dode We see him, he's
already walking towards him, no words, gun on the side
of him, taking his watch off, taking the thing off,
and there's no words. There was no I'm gonna do this.
(04:49):
He didn't even tell us. Rob just disappear and socks.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Somebody like, I'm just so right, but that those are fighters,
Those are guys who are I'm not gonna tell you.
I'm not gonna try to scare you into backing down.
I'm gonna hit you and then you'll hit me and
we'll have a fight.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
And that's how no doubt for so.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
Uh, well, enjoying the weekend whatever you get into. Brother.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Yes, So John Gruden we already talked about the other.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Day about uh the judge allowed this to go to
be a case not arbitration, So that was a victory
for John Gruden and all that.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
But Kelvin, you can set this up about.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
So he wants he wants to coach again exactly. So
he's been you know, he's with Barstool now. So he's
been running around, you know, talking right around, going out
these places, talking about the game with football. And he's
been this in different universities, and now he gets he's, uh,
he's hanging out where in the SEC and he basically
pulls up on Georgia and you know, Georgia has been
(05:50):
has been Georgia for the last decade or so, been
running at a really great football organization. And he basically goes
there essentially says, look, I'm gonna be real with y'all.
I'm here because I want to watch it, I want
to be around it, and ultimately I want to coach again.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
I ain't gonna BSU. I'm here for that.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
I love it and I want to coach and it'll
be awesome to coach in the SEC. Which leads us
to the conversation of will he coach one more thing?
Before we started, you got a lot of athletic directors,
some who anonymously have said that they had told CBS
Sports that they believe it's gonna be a challenge for
him to go to some big schools, but they do
believe he can get some of the schools outside of
(06:24):
the power Forward that might be able to you know,
take that that calculator risk look at.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Like that, like Cortina has to go to small route first.
I own on some small schools, right.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
And he had a prostitution thing going on at his
university and they act like it didn't happen, you know
what I mean, Like ultimately, and then he wound up
at Saint John's, who are just desperate to turn their
program around.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
We know we can coach. He's just not the character
for kids.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
And I'm gonna say the same thing about John Gruden
anybody who sits there and says.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Well, he deserves a second jail. All that.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
I want you to really go back and reread the
stuff that he was writing. And homophobic, racist against women,
against gay people, just vile and awful stuff. And when
people stand up and go, I know, John Grooen, that's
(07:22):
not weird, but you don't hear that really.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
So when nobody was looking, because he thought.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Those emails nobody would ever see except for his friends.
When nobody's looking, that's who you really are. When nobody's looking.
That's the scary part. She's chucky. He's cheesing everybody, and
he's the football coach, and let me tell you about
quarterbacking and come on, kid and get on the board
(07:51):
and all that.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Behind closed doors. The stuff I dare you.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
I don't dare you, I triple dare you to read
that stuff and act like that's okay.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
And he made one, he's made one slip up and
no he did not.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
This dude from reading that is a sick individual in
my opinion, because I just I could never hear me
Kelvin ever imagine saying that, and let alone writing it
and sending it to other people.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
I couldn't go read it. Go read it.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
If you think we're making a big deal. I wish.
I asked Rob G today, could I say the words?
I can't do it, okay, but you get.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
I'm going to when you when you're I'm gonna allude
to some of the words you're talking, but you.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
If you read them, and if we were to say
the words and.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Read them over and over so that you could see
what this guy is about in his head, it's disgusting
and he wants to go be with college kids.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Oh God, This is what's disappointing about the Gruden and stuff.
I think it is an American way. We want to
build you up, break you down, and give you a
chance to be built up again. I think America wants
to give you second chances. You made mistakes. I made mistakes.
He they she everybody makes mistakes. The difference with this
one is a couple of things. Number One, you if
you go through anybody's text their emails, eventually you might
(09:23):
find something that was all right, you probably shouldn't have
said that, or ooh, that wasn't a good one. What
you're not gonna find is the full gambit of everything.
That's my issue with this.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
Rob.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Somebody might have said a joke that between their friends
and email about something okay, and you can be like, yo,
I apologize for that. Me and my friends I got
carried away.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
That was wrong. We all can understand that.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Because if you go through and parts do everyone's emails,
text message, you're gonna find something you didn't like or
was inappropriate.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
This was the full gambit.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
He wasn't just sexist, like oh man, women this women
shouldn't because it was a lot of it was about
women shouldn't be referees, okay, and then you go all right, Hey,
that was sexist me. I went through some counseling. I
can get better. We are all right, you know. He
he knocked out gays, women, blacks, calling other people names,
talk about dmor Smith, who was the I used to
run the NFLPA. He talked about Drea Goodell called him
(10:12):
the F word. Roger Goodell called him the F word.
And we don't mean the four letter word, if you
know what we're talking about. And I'm glad you led
to that, because that was going to be an example
of something. If this were nineteen eighty eight, nineteen ninety two,
people used to say that word in a way and
it didn't even mean it in a homophobic word. They
just were using like you know, if somebody did something,
you're being goy or something else. Then you realize you mature, Rob,
(10:35):
you grow, and you say, you know, I shouldn't say that.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
I don't know the last time I said.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
That word, Rob, Thank you. I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
I mean, I mean even in my text messages, even
th like like I don't even.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Know the last like I'll tell you this, I've never
written that in my text message.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
That's what I'm saying, like it's just so for him
to fill that free with it. And again, if that's
just one word and he was just me and my
guy guys, it's that he knocked out every category. He
was like, who else can I offend? Let me think,
Let me think, let me think, let me see, let me.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Talk about black people and their enormous lips.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Their enormous lips there Michelin tires sized lips he talked about,
I mean and called you know, Goodell the F word,
called him a clueless anti football P word. I mean,
he knocked out the talking about here's another one. How
they he talking about Goodell and the NFL shouldn't have
forced Jeff Fisher to have to draft that Q word.
(11:32):
I don't even know we can say it in this context?
Speaker 4 (11:34):
Uh you know? Uhi, Michael Sam. So like that's my issue.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
We all need forgiveness, we all need grace, we all
can learn from our mistakes and improve. But when he's
that old, that age, that flagrantly saying this about multable
groups including his I guess boss and Goodell, it's like,
come on, man, and you tie that to colleges where
what are colleges of kids from wear rop all over
(12:02):
the world.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
You don't even know, and you don't know different sexualities,
do you know?
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Do you know?
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Right?
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Like that, like that's what you're harboring. You don't know,
like that whole football macho thing. You don't know who's who.
You don't know that in the locker room, you don't
know who's.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Talking about Michael Sam.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
He might go down to Michael Sam's if you will,
you know, thank you, there might be eight Michael Sam's
in your locker room and they just I'm in public
with it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
And we keep finding that out.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
More and more guys come out afterwards and say I
didn't want to talk about it.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
Then yeah, you know, I'm gay.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
I hate it then or I this that or one
other couple of the teammates knew but I didn't tell.
Every point is I'm not saying he can't go off
and run an amazing insurance company, car dealership. Hey, he
wants to just start his own John Gruten barstool spin off.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Go do that.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
That's why he deserves to be a barstool, just right.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
But the idea that I have to bring him into
a university with all of that baggage.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
Bruh.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
You know how you go to an airport, you're getting ready
to go down a flight. Here soon you bring a
blag or two. The brother bought ten twelve things a
baggage and that.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
And if he brought it to Spirit by the way
that they would charge him, they'd be out of dollars.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
They wouldn't they would never have to charge any of
us again. In most baggs he's he has. So that's
my whole point, Rob, I walk in forgiveness. I want
to give everybody a second chance, and I want.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
You but this you could have a second chance. You
could work. Get what he is. He's got a job
in football. He's doing something. I don't want him around kids.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
I don't want him around university, which is about trying
to help spear the minds of young That's.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
What I'm talking about. I could have a job. I'm
with you.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
People deserve second chances. But to be a leading kid.
That's why I was against the whole Rick Patino thing.
To act like you don't know prostitutions going on in
your basketball dorm and uh, your your basketball grat assistant
making thirty five thousand dollars is footing the bill for
the prostitution.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Really really, it's like, come on, man, and over time
you leave somewhere, Rob, there's it's not in his program, right,
There's always something. So yeah, John Gruden, man, like I said,
you can't. He knocked out everything. He was like what
offends people?
Speaker 4 (14:11):
What? What a groups? Can I fin?
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Give me the whole and he just took an offensive
spray gun and knocked them all out at once, like
got lee, John.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Well, we want to get as many people in on
this because I want to see where you are on
the John Gruden eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox
eight seven seven nine nine six sixty three sixty nine.
If you ran a college program, would you consider hiring
John Gruden to be your next head coach?
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Is very simple, yay or nay?
Speaker 3 (14:37):
And why we'll continue this conversation next with you. It
is the Odd Couple on a funky Flashback Friday, Rob
Parker kelvin Washington, and you know what you need to do, stick.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
And stay because unfortunately for Gruden, we can all read
emails on our phones in the US AVA we sure can.
Speaker 6 (14:58):
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Right here, it's the odd couple, Rob Parker Kevin Washington
on a fucking flashback Friday, like this song right here?
Do your summer plans. I know kids are back in school.
My daughter started a second day today. Ridicul that's ridiculous.
It's getting carried away rock. Can I enjoy summer?
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Can they wait till after Labor Day like they do
in New York. You don't go to school till after
Labor day?
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Und All the sense to me like what are we
doing here? So I would completely agree. However, do you
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check them out. Adam kaplan about seven minutes away, Robin,
I want to take some calls eight seven, seven ninety
nine on Fox.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
I think you just go ahead.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
I want to go.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
I'm sorry, Yeah, I'm going to say the reports I
want to get. I knew when that song first played
that that was something I never heard and reacted like that.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
I called my sister in the room, Robin, and said, Robin,
listen to this like that like that? Yeah, And we
looked it at the boom box, you know, looked at
it together as a song was playing, and I was like,
what is this like that?
Speaker 2 (16:59):
That's that's what it was. I'll never forget that.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Day took the world by storm, obviously and changed the
game in history and music. Hasn't been the same when
you talk about having of hip hop and how commercial
and blew up it did after that, Adam Kaplan in
a few minutes as well. All right, Rob and I
talking about John Grud and look I said it, Rob,
America loves to build you up, break you down, build
you up, give you.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Off for second chances and forgiveness.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
But Daggie de.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Kate knock out everybody and knock out every group and
disrespect everybody. And they want to go coach universities where
you're gonna get a multitude of people who may be
different esthen cit in these different faith, different sexuality, different this,
different eco economic backgrounds and everything. You can't do that
to everybody. So good luck with barstools. You got a
bunch of money for the NFL. You'll be fine. John Grud,
(17:46):
I think you echoed the same sentiment. It's eight seven,
seven ninety nine on Fox.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
Who we got Let's.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Start with Eric in Texas. You're on the odd couple
of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
What's up? Eric?
Speaker 8 (17:55):
What up? What Kevin?
Speaker 4 (17:57):
You guys doing?
Speaker 5 (17:57):
Man?
Speaker 4 (17:57):
What's up? It was good?
Speaker 8 (18:00):
Look, I'm with y'all, oney and ten percent. Don Rude
should not.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Get a head coach and job.
Speaker 6 (18:05):
Really, it's a privilege to be a head coach, to
lead men, to lead adult men.
Speaker 8 (18:10):
Right, Like, that's a privilege and an honor.
Speaker 9 (18:12):
He lost that privilege and honor.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
And I'll say this too, I don't feel sorry for
him at all, because you know, the even if that
Charlo is going public now and he thinks the NFL.
Speaker 9 (18:21):
Colluded to to get him, you.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
Know, fourth them out basically, Okay, so what you still
set all those heinous right right, I'm with you.
Speaker 8 (18:30):
I don't feel sorry for you, Like, what is this like?
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Right? Did it?
Speaker 3 (18:35):
The NFL didn't make up the emails, right and then
plant them on you?
Speaker 2 (18:39):
You wrote these.
Speaker 8 (18:41):
They weren't even looking for him, they were looking at Washington.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
It's his fault, like he got I.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Don't feel sorry for John Gruden at all. I don't
lose at one ounce of sleep over John Green is
his fault.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
And I'm honestly surprised he's even getting.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Like talking engagements with teams, Like I'm honestly surprised he
didn't even back in that realm mind. Well, because a
lot you got to remember, it's very ancestral. A lot
of them have gotten jobs from John and their this's
a fraternity and the good will not turn up. Yep,
they will not turn their back because they might be
in the hot water and need help and it's bad.
(19:13):
That's what happens, Tim, Chili, Tim in Atlanta, you're in
the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
That's right. What's up, Chili?
Speaker 9 (19:21):
Well whatever, I but Kelvin, one quick thing. You know,
you guys are talking the first You know, there's guys
that have to get ready and those guys that stay ready.
Those are the stay ready ones you gotta watch out for.
But when you talk about the fighting part, uh oh yeah,
well yeah, Two quick things about John Gulden. First of all,
like I know he's saying there's other people and everything.
(19:44):
I hear people like stephen A and c oh second chance.
But my thing is this and this just could be me.
But like I could wonder about you, but once I know,
I can never forget. It will always be there in
my head. Once you show me who you are, I
don't care what you go through is always going to
be there. The thought will always be in my head.
(20:05):
So he can go through this thing. And like you said, Kelvin,
he insulted everybody he could find. It's like he went
and dug up people that he could find to insult.
So no, and then number two, my dand ones told
me too, He says, son, don't let your talent take
you where your character won't allow you to stay. John
Gruden had the talent, he just doesn't have the character
(20:26):
to stay in those times.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
There you go, man, how about Steve and Kentucky. You're
on the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Steve?
Speaker 8 (20:35):
Steve jell is always great to hear you, and I
agree with what you said. I just have one small
thing that might put the monkey in the ranch alumni.
It's alumni that may think like him, that would pressure
with money.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
No doubt, Steve, no doubt about it, No doubt about it, Steve.
And that's why these things happen. And that's why he's
very public. He thinks somebody will give him a chance
and they probably agree with some of the stuff that
he said and don't see anything wrong with it. And
and we'll blame other people for his downfall as a
football coach. And the other thing. So, Steve, you're you're
(21:14):
spot on. And here's the other thing. Not like he
other than winning that championship. But he took over Tony
Dungeon's team. Go look at his record and how good
of a coach he was he won that good.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Yeah, he's not that good Bie Belichick asking for get
your or or Bill Walsh or something like that, or
you know this is he's slightly I mean, listen, he's
still hanging off of hanging up on that un that
same championship team. Yeah, that one championship that we all
questioned if it was donee or not. So uh yeah,
we're on the same page with that, all right. We
got Adam kaplan in just a moment here right now,
(21:46):
Steve Saga, gonna get you six team trainding. Hey, Steve
that this is Steve the second, not the other.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
Steve just called me.
Speaker 10 (21:52):
Milwaukee's won twelve in a row. They were down eight
to one at Cincinnati in the second inning. It's now
eight eight in the top.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Of the fifth.
Speaker 10 (21:59):
The Brewer starting pitcher Tonight young All Star Jacob Mazerowski
off the il to start Tonight last in an inning
and a third.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
But it's a tie.
Speaker 10 (22:07):
Game in the fifth because Christian Yelich Brewers DH is
already three to three, four RBIs and a solo homer.
Philly still tied two two at Washington top of the seventh.
Rangers up three to nothing at Toronto in the top
of the fifth, with Jacob de Gram on the mound,
Marlin's lead one nothing at Boston top of the sixth
inning the Mariners.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
Cal Rawley is hitt his.
Speaker 10 (22:27):
Forty sixth home run of the season, but at the
end of four the Mets are leading the Mariners six
to four. Two home runs for Francisco Lindor. Juan Soto
has hit his thirtieth of the year. Tigers at Twins
in a rain delay at the start. Yankees are leading
three to nothing after the top of the first at
Saint Louis Jazz chishom a two run homer RBI ground
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out for Aaron Judge is eighty ninth RBI among the
late games. In an hour and a half, the Dodgers,
who've lost four in a row, have Clayton Kershaw six
and two on the mound against San Diego's Wandy Peralta,
who's five and one. Padre pitcher Michael King is on
the injured list with knee inflammation. The Padres have won
five in a row they've taken over first in the
NL West, a game ahead of the Dodgers, and LA
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third baseman Max Munsey goes on the injured list with
a strained oblique. There are a couple of NFL exhibitions tonight.
One in progress minute till halftime. It's Tennessee six' three
At Atlanta. Titans only scoring came on a pick six
Against Easton, stick who's played the first half at quarterback
for The, falcons and Cam ward did start for The
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titans two of, seven passing forty two, yards most of
that on the first. Throw the late game will have
The chiefs at The seahawks back to.
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You all, right here Is, Steve thank, You, steve appreciate.
You It' seia.
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Couple Robin kelvin on a Funky Flashback, friday joined by our,
Guy Adam, Kaplan Fox Sports, RADIO Nfl Insider, KAPLIN nfl
ON X Adam.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Man what's, Up Happy? Friday what's?
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Happened and how are?
Speaker 5 (23:53):
You and, Yeah i'm just rolling. THROUGH i got one
more week of a little tour next week and we'll
get ready for the regular.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Season all, Right let's just go To cleveland and start
there AND i go ahead, Man, SORRY i, know, yes
The cleveland situation and the, injuries and Now Deshaun watson
might be in the mix as. Well look he might.
Play you, know there's a lot of stuff going. On
(24:19):
what do you make of?
Speaker 5 (24:20):
This, Yeah, watson this is highly unlikely he'll be. Ready but,
look the problem Is Kenny, pickett he's real. CLOSE i
don't get the sense he'll be ready for. Tomorrow it'll
Be Tyler. Huntley, uh Probably Dylan. Gabriel Joe flack was
not expected to. Play Shured dore is a long ways.
Away even before the oblique, injury he wasn't even close
to being. Ready despite what other people. Thought being with
The browns this, WEEK i mean they liked that he
(24:42):
started to progress a little. Bit the tape was okay last.
Week did some good. Things some things he's got to work.
On but, look this is a long term project For
Shuder sanders that that's the way they look at. It
they're not going to rush. It barring something highly. Unforeseen
flacka will Start week. One Dylan gabriel is a, kid you,
know he's the third rounder out Of. ARGUON i saw
the senior. Ball they want to take a bigger look.
(25:04):
At but you know they do it. Technically and by the,
way they technically have six quarterbacks on their fifty three men.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Roster now let me ask you. This, okay they're not
keeping FOR i still Think shador will be.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
Cut, NO i don't think.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
So who are you? Cutting who are you?
Speaker 5 (25:19):
Cunning watson won't play the, Season he'll be on Introvers, okay.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
So we Got, watson but they have four.
Speaker 5 (25:23):
Guys, right they'll, move they'll, move they'll leave. Picket, yeah
they'll they'll look the. Move you're gonna Keep you're.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Gonna keep two rookie quarterbacks with the old guy with
the chance that you.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
Could he's just, saying, RIGHT i hear you that that
doesn't make sense to keep. Two, YEAH i hear. You
they may be forced to. Keep they may be forced
to keep. Four now that the question is can they
Get Dylan gabriel ready to be the? Backup it's probably
a long. SHOT i don't see them Cutting. SANDERS i
just don't based on kind of What i've, heard you,
(25:54):
know was with The browns two days this week With
eagles and joint. PRACTICES i can You, pickett look at
If santors Or gabriel could have been more advanced That
pickett certainly would. Be they'd Move picket still could be.
Moved but then the problem, is you make a good.
Point the two young kids aren't ready yet to be
the backup right. Around that's what's. Scary watson was stop
playing the. Season that's What i'm.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
SAYING i Think Kenny pickett has a slot because you
got an old quarterback in flat, though you know WHAT i,
mean he could get hurt in week one and now
What and if you're the coach IN, gm you want
your season to go down and flame with two young,
quarterbacks you know WHAT i?
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Mean who want? Ready that doesn't make sense to. Me
and by the, way their hope.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
Was, okay their hope was That Dylan gabriel would have
been ready to be the. Backup he's. Naughty he just
got back from. Injury that's been the. Problem picket's been,
Hurt gabriel's been. Hurt should or just got already wasn't
ready yet, Anyway so, yeah it's more. Quarterbacks no teams
weren't four quarterbacks on the roster until we got To.
Cleveland but you know, what they feel good about a
bunch of Things Cedria. Tillman you guys a little bit over,
(26:57):
fifty probably remember his, Dad Cedria tillman junior or. Senior
excuse me for The broncos picking In. Shanahan they feel,
good they're gonna get quinche On, judkins who's not gonna
be charged with anything off the. Field he's gonna be back.
Soon osana's rookie contract show he'll be their starting running.
Back Mason graham their first round pick out Of, michigan
d Tackle Carson schweshinger their middle line background of, Course Miles. Garrett,
(27:20):
Guys i've covered these joint practices or practices really for
twenty one. Years with my twenty seven years Of carl's.
Business he probably put one of the best Shows i've
ever seen for a defensive. End was he just trementded The, eagles,
who by the, way have arguably the NFL's best offensive.
Line he's unbelievable this.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Week, YEAH i, mean he's a grown, man and that's
why he obviously is. Paid Adam kaplan our guest, couple
Rob In, kelvin, right that's why he got out of.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
Money let's go speaking of, money let's just stay. There
what's going? On In Cincinnati.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Bengals Tray hendrickson is there seems like maybe they're echine
closer to.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
Something this is.
Speaker 5 (27:51):
Something's going to get done before the end of the
by the time week one. Starts i'll give you an, example,
guys how things can.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Change so four years, AGO.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
Tj watt had a hold him, right he didn't get
his contract The, steelers and they don't like doing. This
they actually signed him to an extension leaving up they
sign him on THAT i Think friday Or saturday before
their first. Game, okay that could happen. Here they're going
to get something. Done they know they have.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
To The.
Speaker 5 (28:19):
Bengals there was a lot of criticism around the league
for them deciding to change courts WITH T higgins and
they decided to sign him make him the highest paid
number two receiver for The national Foot league already Having
Jamar chase the highest paid receiver The NATIONAL Footb league
at the. Time, that, guys that was. Surprising that was not.
Smart now they're a team that they. Got they don't
(28:40):
know who they are identity. Wise, defensive they're not very.
Good at some weeks they were not. Competitive that's why
they Fired Lou. Anabroumo their their defensive. Coordinator Al, golden
the Former miami head coach And temple head coach the
new defense. Coordinator they're open for better.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Results.
Speaker 5 (28:55):
Guys they are team that's going to have to score
like thirty five forty points a game to win based
on what they. Got not very good in the. Secondary
IT'S i don't quite understand their team, building rob to
be honest with. That it's just just not the way to.
Go it doesn't make any. Sense last, Year kelvin AND
i talk about this all the. Time Adam Joe burrow
threw nine touchdowns against The ravens last year and lost both.
(29:19):
Games and they're going out signing, receivers you know WHAT i?
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Mean it makes no sense to. Me where is the?
Speaker 5 (29:24):
Defense and plus their offensive lines are very. Good so
here's what's happened here on. Defense let them expand this
a little bit to give some. Context so they have
the late sign Of Schamar stewart right their first round,
pick which was, embarrassing but they got it. Done Miles,
murphy who was the first rounder From clemson three years,
ago is not pan.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Out he's been a.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
Disappointment Sam, hubbard who starred tops A Trey henderson suddenly
retires in the. Spring that came out of. Nowhere they
were not expecting that now before he's. Thirty, so, yeah
they got. Problems. Guys this is not a very good
defense to begin. With begel fans deserved. Better they have
not done a good enough job of team. Bill that's
the term that for an officer's. Used it's typically you
(30:03):
have a, philosophy you have a franchise Quarter Joe burrow to,
me is ahead Of if we were doing quarterback, Rankings
i'd Ranking i'd rank him ahead Of. Mahomes but what
are you doing to protect the guy They've they also
have not done a good job on their offensive.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Line speaking of quarterbacks justin, fields what are you expecting from?
Him because the reports out Of jets camp were not
good early.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
On that's What i'm.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
Told, yeah it's it's you, know it's it's a guy
who's never really developed In. Chicago he had a couple
of different quarterback, coaches a couple of different, coordinators, right
and you know the coaching there the last couple of,
years they Don't they didn't develop, him they didn't coach him.
Hard he needs discipline the way he, plays he's got
a first time play.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Caller can he delivered the ball consistently the?
Speaker 4 (30:47):
Arm?
Speaker 2 (30:48):
YEAH i, look, guys here's the problem with this.
Speaker 5 (30:52):
Guy you make a commitment basically on contract, structure it's.
Hard it's gonna be hard to move him after if
he's thanks the, season which is entirely, possible or being very.
Inconsistent they're not happy with him by contract. Structure, right
they guaranteed ten million of his twenty million dollars sally
for next. Season they're already paying him this season twenty,
million which it's not a lot for a starting. Quarterback
(31:16):
but they're committing thirty million over two. Years it's fully.
Guaranteed not. Smart they should have Got they should have
paid in all year, one not nothing in the year.
TWO i just don't like the way that they addressed.
This and you, know they could have hedged their. Bet
there's nothing wrong with drafting a quarterback in addition to
getting fields here where they knew he's going to be
a starter, anyway they didn't draft.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
Anyone that was a.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Mistake they should have drafted a quarterback this.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Season he Is Adam.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Kaplan our guests on the couple a couple more off
squeeze in at least one more for me, Here.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
Bob, adam let me stay with.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Quarterbacks the heis have Been trophy, winner number one, pig
best Since andrew blah blah.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
Blah here we are With Caleb. WILLIAMS i think he is,
well most people think as.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Well he's immensely. Talented but you're hearing more and. More
you're hearing about the processing struggling with it looks. Bad
but first first, yeah first team getting pulled off of
the field five for.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
Seventeen with, fans there's like a fan.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Fest how are you throwing the interceptions and basketball shorts
AND t?
Speaker 5 (32:11):
Shirts what's going on With? Caleb, yeah it's this offense
is kind of complicated With Ben. Johnson, Uh but the
good thing is he's such a great quarterback. Developer he does,
guys which he does what's called coaching. Hard you're not
gonna have to wait long to see if it's gonna
work With Caleb willmas At Ben. Johnson Ben johnson won't
put up with heat the problem with last year With.
(32:33):
Chicago i'm not gonna throw any coaches specifically under the.
Bus i'll just tell you the coach was poor last.
Season they fired the offensive coordator last. Season that all
bunch of coaching, changes And SE's Matty ebrifletes did a
terrible job in terms of developing that. QUARTERBACK i know
he's a defensive, guy but he didn't surround him with
guys who've developed quarterbacks well. Enough and he's behind man
and this is kind of. Ugly, now you're right With
(32:56):
Caleb wyams being very. Talented he really, Is but the
problem is he ran a different offense in college on
AT usc on A Cliff kingsbury, this so he's got
a long way to go. Here they're very talented offense.
Guys they've completely revamped their, interior their offensive, line three new.
Starters it's not going to be the offensive lines. Problem
(33:16):
it's Where Caleb williams. Goes and he's he is behind right,
now he's He's they got three weeks to get him.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Ready, okay here's my hot, take last one for. Me
lions do not make the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
Easy, benny do you know what's?
Speaker 5 (33:29):
Funny you know it's. Funny, WELL i don't know about.
THAT i don't have them winning that. DIVISION i have
TO i vote in two. POLLS i don't have him
winning that. Division to shock you, Here i'm probably gonna
go With Minnesota. Wow, yeah, yeah and unbelievable, defensively, no, offensively.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
And they have.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
Weapons they run the, football they do a lot of
stuff and if the Quarterback adam doesn't turn the ball
over you know WHAT i, mean and.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
That don't run and.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Way, yes they run it really. Well but but let
me ask you about The. Lions you know you changed two.
Coordinators that's a big. Deal they're banged. Up they got
some injuries And Jared golf turned Into Jared tennis when
it met at.
Speaker 5 (34:10):
Most, Hey i'm a tennis, player Say i'm just saying
like that scares.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Me he's, yeah, well here's.
Speaker 5 (34:17):
Okay he did employe in that playoff game and gets washing,
them but they put you too much on. Him the
problem with them is. Defensively you've got a first time
play caller And Kelvin. SHEPPARD i know he's a smart.
Guy they like. Him he's the linebackers, coach but he's
never called plays. Before you've got a secondary which could
cover anyone late in the. SEASON i don't. KNOW i
worry about their. Secondary their past rush is my number one.
(34:39):
Problem hutchinson had coming off a major. Injury he looks
good from What i'm, told but they lack a second
and a third pass. Rusher they have a lot of. Problems, Guys,
brob you AND i have seen it the same. Way
we're probably in the minority on this, one But i'm
not doing. It, Yeah i'm gonna Be i'm gonna put
my my uh my neck on the line with this.
One i'm Gonna i'm gonna Pick, minnesota which is not
gonna be a popular pick to be by the.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
Odds make.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
NO i agree that express How adam And rob this,
IS i Will. Rob we already have wings on. It
it'll be the easiest Wings i've ever. Bet, adam you
want to join in on his?
Speaker 4 (35:08):
Wing.
Speaker 5 (35:09):
Bet i'm a, vegan SO i don't bet, wings BUT
i bet you, Also.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
Well you go a little hey buffalo, chicken we.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Say, Tan, yeah you got.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
It, yeah you guys are give me some toful wings or.
Speaker 5 (35:21):
Something you guys toft have you?
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Been how long have you been a?
Speaker 5 (35:25):
Vegan So i'm down forty. Five, rob we haven't seen
each other in ten. Years so when you WHEN i
left The, men WHEN i LEFT, DESPN i was two.
Fifty i'm about two o. Seven, wow. Congrats, yeah, MAN
i had to get my feel good as in. Shape,
YEAH i do BECAUSE i played tennis four days a,
week so stay in. SHAPE i had to man. It
as you get, Older rob AND i are close to
the same.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Age i'm, yes you know, it you got. It you
got to do.
Speaker 5 (35:46):
It, Yes icato AND i took responsibility and, UH i
took the slow route to lose weight and try TO
i called. IT i don't wouldn't didn't want to do
the get rich that you did the right to four.
Years it took me four years to do. IT i
did it, slow eight to ten pounds a, year AND
i was a way to.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Go, no that's a good N. G he just took
a shout of ron because you are gess on O
zempig taking the. Needle you know my wife's on. Something,
YEAH I.
Speaker 5 (36:11):
U i used to lose it app, too WHICH i need,
accountability which which helped.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
Us.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Well, right all, right my man always adam easy, money
GET i can't wait to get my toeful wings or.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
Whatever.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Talk, well we'll review.
Speaker 5 (36:24):
This by quarters every time we're on. Together, OKAY i
know we're gonna be on a. Lot so we're gonna by, quarter,
Guys we're gonna see where we're at with.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
This all, Right so wings coming by.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
WAY i love.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
IT i got to come up in my. Mouth you
guys talking about fake chicken.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
Wings, yeah, Well i'll get real ones from you and
vegan from. Him all, right thank, You. Adam, well we
got to hit this one To. Rob uh The.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Browns, listen we just talked about it a moment. Ago
The browns are. Browning we'll. Explain it's The couple Of
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(37:52):
got to talk about this new information about RETIRED nfl
players and it was a big time poll that was,
done a survey. Done we really haven't seen one of
this magnitude that had been done away from THE. Nfl
So rob AND i have get on that a little bit.
Later and, Also George reister Aka, wrongster it's gonna join
us the.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
Next hour as. Well. Rob that's our, Guy George reister.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
Looking you, know he loves that. Name, Anyway he's wrong a.
Lot it's just you can't. Help But george be right
and we'll call you by your correct.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
Name, Yep so we'll do that as. Well.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Rob couple minutes before we got to break again here real,
quick we were talking To Adam kaplan just About Deshaun
watson And i'll just throw my little two cent on.
THAT i, think first of, All browns have way too many.
Quarterbacks The brown still owe him ninety two million. Dollars
so that's.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Why that's. What if they really wanted him to be,
gone they.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
Could have just, said we don't care about your, rehab
and we just, yeah we made a.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
Mistake they want too much.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Money so as soon as he's, healthy he's going to
play quarterback for.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Them he.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
Is he is absolutely gonna get at least a. Chance
but what makes it interesting is this dude was A
mvp candidate two three years. Ago people were calling him super.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Years, ago more than nice three ago.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
Three but, yeah but now he when you look at
the numbers of what he was doing last, Year rob
was actually embarrassing what he was doing because you would, say,
man if you're, him you'd, say, man IF i just
got a, Shot i'm telling you he was never.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
Back he was he was never, Back like that's the
thing that's. Crazy Never he had a couple of like
a couple, games BUT i mean.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
Back he was never.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Back one in five in the six starts that he,
got he never threw over two hundred passing. Yards his
QB R rop was like some of our listeners, age
it was twenty, Two like that's.
Speaker 4 (39:41):
Crazy it was like the girls who like twenty.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
Two the only player with the fifteen points of him
was another player who lost the job in the first.
Speaker 4 (39:50):
Year will left too said twenty. Two, okay all, right
that twice is the ones you like the. More all,
Right so maybe you're split the. Middle you'll be like
Will levis's. Kilbr there you go To, alice we're, good
get the, cough, go well we got. There you know
you got.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
That so he was just awful rob when he got his.
Chance that's the THING i think that was scary to,
me was you, know if you're, thinking if you're, Man
i'm just clamoring to get, back give me my. Shot,
well when he got his, shot he looked. Awful he's
at the WORST qb and got in THE.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
QBR i, Agree but he's going to get a shot
back in there because they owe him all.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
That MONEY i ain't GETTING i. Ain't you ain't cut
Them illitch making ninety two million dollars.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
Right otherwise you would have just cut him and just
said we're gonna spread out the loss over five years
whatever it, is right and just move.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
On but they haven't done, That so that tells.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
You so he's gonna get a shot all the reports
are that he looks, great doing great things in and
out the building ninety two million.
Speaker 4 (40:46):
Dollars you dang all. Right he might get another shot
at some. Point
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