November 20, 2025 • 39 mins
Rob and Kelvin debate whether Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson is the greatest dual-threat quarterback in NFL history. Plus, SEC Tea podcast host Cierra Clark swings by for a little college football conversation in this week’s edition of College Kids. Finally, the Odd Couple Crew discusses whether Thanksgiving is really the worst major American holiday in this week’s edition of Shop Talk.
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and we got a little shop talk. Is Thanksgiving the
worst major holiday of the year.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Yeah, Rob g wants some smoke today.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Huh, I guess so. So we got all of that
coming up in our number two. And don't forget a
Thursday Night Football. I don't know, I don't I'll just.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Are you Are you talking about Buffalo.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Bills and the Texans? Like I don't want to be
a kill joy, but I just are you hyped?
Speaker 4 (01:41):
There is a reason you glad you asked me because
you lead us to our topic here. The reason I
think anyone will be hyped today is specifically Josh Allen.
Josh Allen spectacular raining MVP. Last week did some stuff
that no one else does at the rate he's doing it.
Three touchdowns through the air, three touchdowns on the ground.
It's just been He's spectacular. So if anyone's excited, it's
(02:03):
because he's in it. The Texans are great defensively, but yeah,
you know, don't necessarily bring a bunch of I expect
the gain to be close because of their defense.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
But leading to our topic, there's a discussion that is.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Josh Allen the greatest running and passing the dual threat
quarterback ever and he enters tonight rob Thursday Night Football
tied with Cam Newton for the most regular season rushing
touchdowns by a quarterback in NFL history. He had They
both have seventy five, so one more he's gonna break
the record, And then of course you start to look
at the stuff that he's been able to do. He
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has ten rushing touchdowns so far this season, trailing only
Jonathan Taylor, who's a running back. In Green Bay's Josh
Jacob who's a running back, So he's doing stuff at
a rate as if he's a running back when you're
talking getting any the inzon, so the question becomes is
he the greatest dual threat quarterback ever? And the answer
(02:57):
is yes, and it's ju literally because of what I
just mentioned there. If you're asking me who's the most exciting,
effortless video game looking.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
That is Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
If you're just talking about a guy who can get
the yards because he's a Lamar has way more yards
to him. When you're talking about just total yards rushing,
Lamar Jackson is ahead of him in that ring. But
when you're talking about excitement, I think of Michael Vick,
I think of Lamar Jackson as I mentioned, But productivity
as far as getting your running but in the end zone,
that is Josh Allen jumping over people, running people over
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and then still have the ability to turn around three
throw three touchdowns, Josh Allen has become that simply edging
out Lamar in a sense of productivity in the end zone.
As far as aesthetically, that's still Lamar for me. Like
as far as just pure when I watch this person play,
I go, okay, this is just he looks like he's
playing against college players of the high school players. Lamar
still has that. But as far as getting it done
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on the productivity side, specifically with the running in the
end zone, Lamar just edges him out. Josh just edges
him out for me, and the stuff that both of
them have done, by the way the ages they are
is crazy.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
It's not like they're at the end of their career.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
They're gonna set records so far ahead of everybody. When
it comes to Lamar with the rushing yards, when it
comes to Josh Allen with the touchdowns for a quarterback, Henna,
he's on a trajectory at the end of the twenty
twenty eight season to have triple digit rushing touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
That's insane. So that's where I am. He's the greatest one.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
You're talking about getting the job done in the end zone,
whether it be passing, whether it be running.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Where are you I have a feeling you're more Lamar.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Yeah, I don't think it's close, and you're just putting
up The issue I have is to think it's just
about numbers, Okay, And it's not just about numbers, because
that's a style of play that the Bills have decided
they want to go with with Josh Allen, and unlike that.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Everybody could criticize.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Lamar when he was running the ball in and he
obviously decided that he didn't have to do that anymore, right,
have to give up his body and wind up getting hurt.
And I'll give you a couple of examples on why
Josh Allen isn't the best dual threat. It's Lamar Jackson
and it's not even close. John Stockton has is the
(05:14):
all time assist leader. Nobody thinks he's the better passor
than Magic Johnson. No zero, even though he has more assists. Right,
he's done it better than that. Oh, he got all
the assists. Nobody thinks he's better passor than Magic Johnson.
Another one, Tom Brady. Tom Brady has all the stats,
all the stuff you want. You talk to anybody in
(05:36):
the NFL and take away the Super Bowls because that's
what puts him on everybody's list, and say who's the
best quarterback? Skill, arm, strained, accuracy, all that. Tom Brady
is not the best quarterback. He's the most accomplished quarterback.
(05:56):
He would you agree with that he's not the best quarterback,
but you Aaron Rodgers, right, you could pick five guys
easily ahead of Tom Brady. He's the most accomplished because
when you put the winning and all those stats, then
you could say, yeah, tom Brady for people want to
say he's their goat or whatever it is, but it
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doesn't make him the best quarterback. And the same thing
with Josh Allen. I don't think he's I don't think
there's an ounce he that there's If I stack those
two guys up together, I would take Lamar ten out
of ten out as being a dual threat. Lamar's throwing
the football and where he is with the passing game
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and trying to stop that. Dude, I'm not talking about
just from the one yard line or instead of getting
it's off to the full back or the running back
or whatever, going in yourself rather than giving it to
somebody else. And that's what he does and a lot
of times you can still run in for more than
a yard or two out.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
But that's the play that they call the style of play.
So I'm I'm not. I don't.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
I don't believe he's better than Lamar as far as
a dual threat.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
I think the difference for me again is a couple
of things.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
One, his ability is size like that always makes it
where he can just run guys over and get up
like it was nothing and still again go right back
to the airing it out and neb Also again, Lamar
has thirty four touchdowns and again we talked about seventy five,
so he has less than half of Josh Allen when
it talks to just getting an enzone, and that to
(07:27):
me is just a small hair on my chinny chin
chin separator. You know, I think Lamar Jackson's the best
player when everything.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
How do you think he's the best player.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
If you say that Josh Allen is the best dual
threat quarterback in the history of the NFL, how can
Lamar be better than him?
Speaker 3 (07:44):
I tell you what, please, because that makes no sense
to me. I tell you why.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Because Lamar's speed alone, that portion of it makes them different.
But I'm talking about for me, Josh Allen getting Indian
zone throwing in the enzone.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
That's but I'm telling you for me, so Lamar.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
But if he's the best dual threat quarterback, ever, how
could he not be better than Lamar?
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Great?
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Yeh, is he the greatest dual threat quarterback? So if
he's the greatest dual threat quarterback, he's not better than Lamar?
Speaker 4 (08:15):
How No, because m Lamar's passing ability right now, because
of the way he plays, he's getting We already talk
about it his winning percentage, right we talk about the
way Lamar, his style of play, his winning I think
he's at what seventy two percent of his games or
something crazy like that. Lamar, especially the early part of
his career when he was more run century Lamar. Right now,
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both of those guys are video game players, which is
why the last three four years is gonna be pick
your choice of who is gonna win the MVP.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
So Lamar makes it look so effortless.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
It looks like a video game, as does Josh, but
Lamar makes it He's a little bit more trickier to
game plan for, and he's just a little bit more unique.
But when I'm saying just simply do a threat and
it's close if you say Lamar, if I'm not mad
at you, I just think for me, his ability, his
being Josh to get in the end zone both ways
is the small separator for me that that's the only difference.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Saying.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Geo logical that then Lamar is a better player because
what I.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Don't know what? Okay, let me respind that.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Let me because it doesn't does.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
I don't understand that, but see I don't. This is
where we're different.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
Patrick Mahomes had been the best player for years and
he's no wing near as dynamic as either. He can run,
but no way near as dynamics. So it's not just
being a great runner doesn't simply make you the best player.
Aaron Rodgers was the best player and he wasn't the
most running quarterback.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
So RUSS player doesn't equate to just simply.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
No, but it says that the great all right, I'm
just trying when you say.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
You know what I'm saying, like lam Lamar being the
best doesn't mean he's that he has to have better
legs or like you can.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Peyton Manny was the best player for some time. He
wasn't running.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Nowhere, No, But what the idea that you're talking about
the same two guys. You're saying, You've said Lamar is
the best player in the league, but Josh Allen is
the best duel because things so they're not because they
both do that.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
They both do that, they both.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
Know.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
These two guys are both dual right with that?
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Yeah, absolutely, okay, but you're probably the best to edits.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Okay, So but but you say Lamar is the best quarterback,
but he's the best duel.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Threat because Lamar doesn't Lamar is a capability is more
so maybe getting out the pocket some scrambles. I'll run
around Josh is a lot of times I'm getting in
the end zone. So it ends in the results of
him getting in the end zone one way, the one way,
or they're through air or through running. And that's to
me when I'm saying the only that threat of him
(10:47):
scoring from it. He has seventy five rushing house Lamalley
has thirty four.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
But a massive difference.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Yeah, but but it's just not. I just gave you
the example of the John Stockton. You think John Stockton
is a better point guard than think Johnson.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
But no, no, no, why not. What I'm saying but that
he has more assistant magic and magic.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
Johnson was bigger, magic, Johnson was stronger, magic, Johnson.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Was able to score better and something.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
But it's more than just as simple that that's what
a dual threat. Both of them are have gotten really
good as fast as over the years.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
But they both But would you would you acknowledge that
the Ravens have gone away from Lamar being they got
Derek hen Reid, they had other that that's not what
they want Lamar to do it, not that he can't
do it, is that they don't want him to do it,
and it's a style of play.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
That's what I'm trying to say that.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
So if we had that Lamar can't do it two
years ago or in two years from now, I might,
you know, change a thing. But as of the last
two couple couple of years, we've seen Josh Allen and
I told you that's why I think singularly won him
that m v P last year. And he was running
all over the place, jumping over people in snow doing literally.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Buy but he wasn't of NFL All First Team All
Pro quarterble.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Hey, they changed their vote. What you want from me? Rob,
What do you want for me.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
None of this makes sense to.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Me, all right, they changed their votes.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox. Maybe you understand
Kelvin because I don't. I don't know how you get it, don't.
I don't get it. I don't know how. If Josh
Allen is the best dual threat quarterback of all time,
he should be the best player right now.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Oh God, I just think that that's they go hand
in hand.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Is Josh Allen the greatest dual threat quarterback of all time?
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Kelvin says yes. I say hell.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
No, Oh God, no, pill. Yeah, we'll continue that conversation
next with you. We want to hear from you. Eight seven,
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Shoot, I don't know if your phone is ringing rob
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Don't worry about it. I got it.
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You say no, you say yes? Is it's somebody else?
Eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox Who We Got?
Speaker 2 (14:23):
How about Ben? In Miami? You're on the a couple
of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Ben?
Speaker 8 (14:29):
Hey, guys, how's it going?
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Gross up?
Speaker 7 (14:31):
Ben?
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Not that bad.
Speaker 9 (14:35):
I just wanted to say more specifically about last year's
MVP that I only think that Josh got it because
Lamar had won it beforehand. But I think as you
compare the actual numbers and statistics, Lamar played better last year.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
There's no doubt about No, There's no doubt that was ridiculous, Ben,
it was.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
It was ridiculous.
Speaker 7 (14:52):
But who you got?
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Who you got?
Speaker 9 (14:54):
I mean, I mean from dual threat, I mean you
gotta go Lamar. I mean his his ability just to
lose people and and and go down as on Parallel,
I agree.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
I just I think he's unbelievable. He's must see TV.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Thanks Ben for the call and the support.
Speaker 10 (15:13):
Appreciate you, no doubt, Thank you, Corny, Corey and Kansas.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
You're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Corey?
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Hey?
Speaker 11 (15:21):
What's going on? Man?
Speaker 2 (15:22):
How are you?
Speaker 11 (15:23):
I'm doing pretty good?
Speaker 8 (15:25):
Good?
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Where are you in Kansas?
Speaker 8 (15:27):
Which ta Kansas?
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Wichita? All right, Well, I've only been through the airport once. Yeah,
the world, there you go.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
I've never been there, Wichita. Not much to see, Okay.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
I drove, I flew there and drove to Tulsa, Oklahoma.
Speaker 11 (15:41):
Oh yeah, that's a lovely drive. Yeah, in my opinion,
you know, it's gotta be Josh Allen. You know, touchdowns
aren't just a little thing.
Speaker 9 (15:50):
You know, he scored that many touchdowns.
Speaker 8 (15:54):
We'll get me wrong.
Speaker 12 (15:55):
Lamar Jackson's great dual threat quarterback.
Speaker 11 (15:57):
But you know, Josh Allen, when you add the.
Speaker 8 (15:59):
Touch sounds plus the tasting ability, thanks a little bit
better than Lamar's and Mike can In. But I agree
with Calvin hits hits some more.
Speaker 11 (16:07):
Eric Allen, all.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Right, I appreciate you could be wrong in Kansas? Is okay? Dorothy?
Thanks all right?
Speaker 3 (16:13):
No, he know what it is. It's that man west
love brother.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
All right, Thank you? Greg?
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Yeah, Greg and Vegas. You're on the odd couple of
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
What's up? Greg?
Speaker 11 (16:25):
Hey, So let's what's up.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
How y'all doing?
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Many?
Speaker 12 (16:29):
Hey man, good man?
Speaker 11 (16:30):
And this suck's coming from a Dolphin fan. But I
gotta give it to Josh Allen, Like, what are we
talking about here? Like, I'm not scared of Lamar Jackson
in the pocket. I'm scared of Josh Allen. He's a
walking touchdown waiting to happen passing or rushing. And please, Rob,
you gotta stop with that. Stockton Magic Johnson a narrative
man one play, twenty season, one play, thirteen seasons.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
I'll give you another one. I'll give you another one.
Tom Brady. Tell me you disagree with that. Tom Brady
is not and all the greatest quarterback I'm talking about.
Ask anybody in the NFL not accomplished talking about arm strength, accuracy, escapability.
There are five guys better than Tom Brady.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
That is true.
Speaker 8 (17:14):
Okay, I give you that.
Speaker 11 (17:16):
But but with this Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson. Look, man,
he can He's the only one that I'm scared of
that can give you two hundred and fifty yards passing
along with two Russian touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Like, I don't know how you can say Lamar can't
give you Russian touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
That he doesn't. Though it's not that he can't.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Style of play does all of play.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
I mean, if you look at the passing nights.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
Josh Allen has two hundred and thirteen passing touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Lamar has one hundred and sixty six. Josh Allen has
seventy five rushing touchdowns. Lamar has.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
It's not just about compiling, I know, but I'm just saying,
but for me to answer the question of.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
The dude, I'm just saying, like I just saying, he's.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
Done and both of those things I told you, But
this it's skinning a hair, you know, skinning the hair
of a cat if we're talking about these two, cause
they're pretty much been the guys the last handful of season.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
When it comes to MVPs, one squeeze at a couple more.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Yeah, we got time for more.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Sean in Sacramento, you're on the autop Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
What's hey?
Speaker 8 (18:13):
Yeah, I'll go from another brother, cousin, Kelvy. My brother's
by the board with up Monci real quick shout out
to the sports group man, shout out to Cooper the
quick Man. I know we don't always get along in chat,
but y'all brothers are spot on today because.
Speaker 11 (18:26):
Ron Parker, you are full of with sugar.
Speaker 8 (18:29):
Now, brother, you need to take that cape off for
Lamar Jackson. He's having a down year. Not only are
you way wrong about the style of play, style of play,
King Henry is off this year. So he ain't taking
no goal line.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
No, but I'm saying they stopped They've stopped Lamar from
doing that. They don't need him to do that. He
could score for he could score from there. You can
come on now, he's a better player.
Speaker 8 (18:53):
So he has stopped himself. To Kelvin's point, the reason
why I get what he's talking about. Sure, Lamar looks
great at a quarterback, but when you want to talk
about durability, you want to talk about a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
No, that's not that's not the conversation.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
It's about being a dual thread who can score on
the ground and score on the air.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
It's Lamar and it's not.
Speaker 8 (19:14):
Definitely Josh Allen and it's a short man. You wins
and losses.
Speaker 11 (19:19):
Look at who's winning more this year?
Speaker 1 (19:21):
And now what's based on this year? It's all time.
Come on, Sean, We're not talking about just this year.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Thanks for the call, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Shot another one in Louisiana. You're in the couple of
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
What's up, Shack what's going on?
Speaker 12 (19:35):
Rub and Kevin. I don't know how they got Louisiana
out there. But let's cut to the chase, bro We
got to start with these touchdown merchants at quarterback. It's
the quarterback in Buffalo touchdown merchant. The mediocre quarterback in
Philly is another touchdown merchant. Lamar Jackson's bout far the
best duel threat quarterback. How are you better at a
prototype as josh Allen Kilvin? But Lamar is the better overall?
Speaker 2 (19:59):
All right, thank you?
Speaker 4 (20:01):
Shock It may because it makes because threat, it makes
no answer that. Let me answer this question. Because dual
threat doesn't mean you have to be the best. There
are plenty of time. I don understand whre you keep
saying that. There's plenty of understand you're the best tool
threat answer.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
You don't have to be a dual threat to be
the best. That Tom Brady was.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
Something and handful of the years the best, Peyton Manning
was the best.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
They wasn't runing nowhere. Dan Marino was the best for
a few years.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
Sometimes the best pocket What I'm saying is, sometimes the
best happens to be both. Sometimes the best is sometimes
it's a hybrid like Patrick Mahomes is a hybrid. He
can run, but he's not on their level. But he's
also he's so much superior passing. So best player to
me doesn't have to well, who's the best dual threat?
That that's like the NBA. The best player isn't always
the best on both sides of the ball.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Sometimes it is, sometimes it's illogical.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
I'm serious. Absolutely, let's squeeze in Lee in South Carolina.
You're on the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
What's up?
Speaker 4 (20:56):
Lead?
Speaker 12 (20:57):
I got Fainsville about that out this quarterback. I think
the boy Daniels and Washington teach the woman most bag
Clay last year a duel threat, no doubt.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
We like Jael Jake Daivils. But hold up, Josh and Lamar,
we're going crazy. Last year, come on, brother.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
And Lamar had the greatest year. Yeah, then the other
two m vps that he won, which was crazy.
Speaker 8 (21:24):
And I'm gonna say about the hang up, it's a
possibility neither one of them win a Super Bowl, though.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Well, as hard as it is to win a super Bowl,
I definitely could see Josh Allen not winning because.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
They've never won a Buffalo requests that's serious. I could
see it, but you know it's a great I can
see that. Thanks, Thanks, Lee appreciated.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
What's more likely.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
Lamar wins or Josh wins or like neither like? Is
there a chance that only one wins won? And if
if only one your case, you said, it'd be Lamar. Uh,
it'd be interesting if these two great quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
I saw a great quarterback and Jim Kelly up in Buffalo.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
They never won. Yeah, it's for Super Bowls.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
That running gun offense was crazy running shoot, I mean
runn shoot. All right, we got a thank you off
for the calls. Much appreciate it. On the way, we
got college kids. What's here, Clark, that'll be a fun
time right now. Mante Milana is gonna get you up
on what is trending?
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Updated guys.
Speaker 13 (22:20):
Week twelve of the NFL officially underway and James Cook
got going quickly.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Late low show from Hawes handoff to Cook cuts it inside.
He's got the first down through a hole thirty twenty
ten five touchdown James Cook forty five yards to the
end zone for a Buffalo touchdown.
Speaker 14 (22:41):
If you just heard it all on the Bills Radio network.
The extra point was missed.
Speaker 13 (22:46):
I'm not happy about it because my fantasy football team,
but builds her up on the Texans right now, six zero,
still early in the first quarter. Other NFL newsed for
a second consecutive day, Bengals quarterback Joe Burrow was a
full participant in practice to Cincinnetti hosts the Patriots this Sunday.
The Colts have added Daniel Jones to their injury report with.
Speaker 14 (23:05):
A calf injury.
Speaker 13 (23:06):
Raven's quarterback Lamar Jackson returned to practice today after missing
yesterday's practice with an ankle injury, and Packer's running back
Josh Jacobs, who's dealing with a knee issue, return to.
Speaker 14 (23:14):
Practice today as a limited participant.
Speaker 13 (23:16):
When it comes to the NBA, Jalen Suggs is twenty
three points and the Magic without Paolo Bencaro, are leading
the Clippers seventy five to sixty four halfway.
Speaker 14 (23:23):
Through the third quarter.
Speaker 13 (23:25):
Late in the first quarter, the Grizzlies are on top
of the Kings thirty to eighteen. Also, King star center
Demonte Sebonis has suffered a partially torminiscus in his left knee,
so he's going to be reevaluated in three to four weeks.
Late in the first quarter in Milwaukee between the seventy
six ers and the Bucks, where the seventy six ers
are up twenty to thirteen, Paul George eleven points so far.
Speaker 14 (23:44):
Lad in the first quarter between the.
Speaker 13 (23:45):
Hawks and the Spurs, where Atlanta is up twenty eight
to twenty six. In men's college hoops, number one Produce
survived against Memphis eighty to seventy one. They were losing
for a majority of the game. Right now, Number fourteen
Saint John's is crushing Bucknell ste to thirty two, still
halfway through the second quarter, just like Tennessee State and
Tennessee where number twenty Tennessee is up sixty two to
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thirty four. NHL real quick here as the Blue Jackets
are leading the Maple Leaves two to one late in.
Speaker 14 (24:13):
The second period.
Speaker 13 (24:14):
Halfway through the second period, the Capitals are on top
of the Canadians three to two.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
What about my Islanders?
Speaker 14 (24:20):
No, you Islanders are crushing the Red Wings for zero. Wow,
way through the second period.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Very not a busy night.
Speaker 14 (24:26):
Back to you guys.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
That was my team growing up, the New York Islanders.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Thank you When I was.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Married you ready, Yes, I'm ready. Me and the right time.
Speaker 14 (24:33):
Thank you, Alex. Wait to cue that. That's perfect.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Me and my wife, who's ex wife now, but who
was from Detroit.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
We had season tickets to the Islander.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Can you imagine a thirty year old black couple sitting
there going to a hockey game?
Speaker 14 (24:47):
How good?
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Now?
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Did she like it? Are you just saying no, she
liked it?
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Yeah you didn't? You don't want to watch it right
on TV? Would she loved to go?
Speaker 14 (24:57):
How fun?
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (24:58):
I agree with that. I think baseball and hockey.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
We went to a lot of baseball games, and we
went to a lot of all hockey games.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
And then and then real life happened, and then, you know, we.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
Would love to die dissect what real life was.
Speaker 6 (25:14):
I never thought Tiger Woods would come between us.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
That's right, it's real.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
Right, real life is your obsession with with Tiger Woods.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
He ruled my marriage. It's just I hit. It's so
good today.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
It was fun at you.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
And his nine iron?
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Oh god, whoa wow? Can we get through it? The
college kids, It's.
Speaker 7 (25:36):
Time for the college kids here on the odd Come
a look at this week's college football through the eyes
of the young inexperience. They swear they know college ball, Yeah.
Speaker 11 (25:50):
Right, fundamentals are going to show up.
Speaker 7 (25:52):
Are there takes SOPHOMOREIC or graduation worth? Robin Calvin with
my son.
Speaker 6 (25:57):
Bring him on. That's right, baby.
Speaker 5 (25:59):
I know you're tired of Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington
aka Kevin telling you all this stuff.
Speaker 6 (26:04):
You already know. It's time to go deep into.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
The college football world, and no one better to bring
in than an absolute pro. Her name is Sierra Clark.
She is the host of the Sect podcast Sierra, how
are you doing today?
Speaker 14 (26:15):
Good?
Speaker 1 (26:16):
How are you?
Speaker 6 (26:17):
We're doing fantasms?
Speaker 12 (26:19):
Right?
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Yeah, Sierra sounds full of energy. We love it.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Heah, yeah, yeah, she better bring it.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
So if you guys don't know, Sierra is here to
tell us exactly the ins and outs of everything college football.
And Rob Parker and Kevin Washington I'm sorry, Kelvin Washington
are going to decide if she's graduating or staying in college.
So Sierra, first one she has on the docket is
if Lane Kiffin wants to win an easier route to
a Natty, he'll go to Florida or LSU. If he
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wants to build a legacy, he could do that in Ole,
miss Sierra tell us why the thing is, And I'm.
Speaker 15 (26:51):
A Florida grad so selfishly I would love to have
Lane Kiffin as my head coach. But the thing is,
if Kiffen wants to do that legacy, he should stay
where he is right there at Ole Miss. Florida has
the Burrier. LSU had Nick Saban where they won a
national title there. Ole Miss has never won a national
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title in the modern era. I mean the last time
they won one it was in the late nineteenth fifties,
and Mississippi looks very different than it does now. So
if he stays at ole Miss, he has the opportunity
to win a national title. It is hard to recruit there,
but he can get a statue, the field named after him,
all the things. He can't do that at LSU and
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Florida because those fields already named after other people.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
All right, Sierra, you are not graduating because off Morrick.
You already blew up your own argument at They've never
won an Old Miss and can't recruit the same at
Ole Miss. And it's nice to say, d And if
you want a statue out of a place where you
never won, that's cool or whatever. But the idea of
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being a head coach coach in college football and eventually,
you know, getting across the finish line and finally raising
that championship trophy. I think he goes what's best for
him money wise and gives him the best chance to win.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
Sierra. You're graduating, Nay. I always say congratulatings up. That's right,
you're graduating because a couple of points you made.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
So let's talk about Lane Kiffin has totally turned that
franchise around. That got the only teams a couple of
teams that are wins and then the sc Yeah, the program,
that's right, and you're talking about Georgia and you're talking
about Alabama.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
He's right there with them and wins the last five years.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
And because of the transfer portal and because of the nil,
he can absolutely have a chance to sneak in and
Natty in the next couple of years. Hey, maybe even
this year. So you stay there, create a name for yourself.
You've somehow you have been one of the more fumbling
your way up in your careers, Lane Kiff, and he's
fumbled into a great position. I don't know how he's
done it, and he's finally he talked about how the
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schools changed his life, helped him get back on track.
Stay there, marry up that team that organizations that program,
and then you can go ahead and U maybe win something.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
But it makes it makes those sense for him to leave.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
And then Sierra, you'll be ripping him saying how he
never won a national championship because he stayed at Ole Miss.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Remember that.
Speaker 6 (29:12):
Okay, Uh, leave it to Professor Parkers and I graduate.
Speaker 5 (29:16):
Somebody who would have ever expected it is college Kids
with Sierra Clark, host of the SECT podcast. And so
Sierra's second take, may I say, I'm excited to see
what she has to say. Timing of the transfer portal
window needs to change.
Speaker 6 (29:30):
Sierra tell us.
Speaker 15 (29:30):
Why, Yeah, one window does help. Right now it's from
January second to the sixteen. But that just really impacts
those teams are in the playoffs, like you're Ohio States,
You're Georgia, and players who are sitting the bench on
those teams they want to leave, but they could potentially
their number could get called if somebody gets hurt. So
I just think they need to push the playoff the
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trade of portal date to later January early February. However,
that does kind of depend on each school schedule, but
I think acceptance exceptions need to be made for these
college football athletes if they want to go to another
school because it's conflicts with their bowl games.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
Unfortunately, Sierra, you graduated, congratulates, got to give.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
It to you.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
Here's why it actually just ties into lang Kiffin as well,
because they're talks to him leaving LSU as we just
discussed talks to him going to other schools.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
Well, he would.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
They would have to make a decision before the college
football playoffs because you got the transfer portal, you gotta
start talking to coaches, the availability to talk to them.
These schedules get so tight for schools to make decisions
and players to make decisions.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
So they need to give it a few.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
More weeks, stretch it out, because you got twelve teams
in the Coage Fotball playoffs. Before you know it, you're
gonna have twenty four and that'll be too many schools
that have to make decisions. So rashly as opposed to
giving them a couple of weeks to settle down after
the playoffs and figure out what they want to do.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
I want to say sophomoric once again, back to back
to Sierra, what's the time schedule the transfer portal for
coaches walking out on players?
Speaker 2 (31:03):
When is that there's none?
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Okay, I'm just saying, like I rest my case, like
why you got to be restrictive to the players, but
the coaches get to walk whenever they want.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
I just don't.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Figure those are the rules that are laid out. They
need to figure it out.
Speaker 5 (31:21):
Well said, There you go, odd couple with Rob Parker,
Calvin Washington, the great Sierra Clark here for the Sect podcast.
Speaker 6 (31:28):
Now the last take of the Night Boys.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
She says what she say.
Speaker 5 (31:33):
College football playoffs. They don't need to expand serious. Tell
us why?
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Yes?
Speaker 15 (31:39):
And Rob, I know the last time I came on here,
you mentioned a lot about money, money, money, and I
get it. More playoffs teams equals more money. But when
the playoff is going on for so long and you're
seeing South Florida play Georgia and Georgia's beating them by
forty points, I'm tired of watching it by then. And
I love college football, but I don't want to see that.
I want to see the big dog go up against
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each other both teams. Is already enough because we're seeing
teams like Miamis who They aren't even going to play
in the AGC Championship, but are being talking about being in.
Speaker 8 (32:11):
The college football playoffs.
Speaker 15 (32:12):
It just doesn't make sense to me. Twelve is enough
and we don't need more.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Teams, all right for once, Sierra's graduating.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Shut up, all right.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
I know this is all about money and a big
money grab, but I'm with you enough. I don't want
to see a three month long playoff because they want
to put forty eight teams in it.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
I'm with you. I don't even want twelve.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
I don't think there's even twelve viable that can win
the national championship. Four was good for me, so I'm
with you. We don't need to expand anymore on college football.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Man, this was your best day ever with me because
a graduating What you been doing?
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Why this is why you can't teach at USC because
you're an easy greater?
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Hey, Rob, you better stop it. You're so easy. Not
only do they graduate, they get a job with you.
Our home staff is nothing but your former students.
Speaker 6 (33:09):
Oh God, Doug Kelvin.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Sierra, you're graduating because listen and Robin, you touched her. Look,
we're rewarding mediocrity, like, hey, you can be eight and
four and have a chance to get in, and we're
losing the scarcity and the significance of the regular season.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
Though they're gone too far.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
It should be twelve is already too many. But fine,
if we can't go backwards, so leave it at twelve.
Stop messing with it for at least fifteen twenty years,
then we can reassess, not two.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
Three, four, five years.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
All right?
Speaker 6 (33:40):
And that's college kids with Sierra.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Thank you, Sierra, great job, very Erra, Sierra.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
Listen, listen because you're because you're in class with us.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
Rob's gonna offer you a job when this ends.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
There you go, well, I think she's on the radio
with us.
Speaker 16 (33:55):
How's that? That is Rob offering everybody if you we're
in and at all? Right, thanks, I have a great there,
no doubt it's here that next. She's gotten really really
good with that.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
She's on MLB bro.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
You know, I know that.
Speaker 6 (34:10):
I don't know how that feels. I don't know how
that feels.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Alex, You're going to be on MLB bro one day.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
One day, Alex, I told you we just got to
update your ancestry back. Now, all you need is point
one percent black. You in there, but this right from
the waist down.
Speaker 10 (34:24):
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shop talk on the that's if we still have jobs.
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It is now time for shop talk.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Ain't nobody's not being a ball shopping?
Speaker 7 (35:13):
You know that.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
Ain't nobody is You talk about whoever, whatever whatever you
want to in the Boss shop.
Speaker 5 (35:19):
Wait, you know it's chopped talking ladies and gentlemen, boys
and girls and Mancy Belanos. It's time to talk about
things outside of the world as sports, because we are
worldly gentlemen and we like to do things that don't
always revolve around a pig skin, bouncing ball or things
that go bang. It's time to talk about something coming
up next week. And now, Rob Parker and I are
the hardest working men in radio. You can't deny that
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because we're both gonna be your Thanksgiving Rob, right.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
And I'm bringing food. I'm gonna bring a sweet potato
Pody plause. We are going to eat and work, Alex.
We have to hold the odd couple together eight years strong.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
That's why this show is still going strong.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
I need y'all to go get some families. It's something
y'all are tripping.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
If y'all what it is, It's okay to go enjoy
some turkey with the family.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
What are y'all doing?
Speaker 5 (36:03):
Yeah, we'll have turkey after that's right, baby. We work
hard for the people. Now, guys, I want to talk
about this real quick and gets your topic and thoughts
on it. So, between the travel prices, the obligations to conversate,
and the inconsistent food quality based on whoever's hosting, Thanksgiving
has recently developed an online reputation as.
Speaker 6 (36:21):
Being the worst major holiday of the year. Guys, what
do you think.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
I totally disagree. It's actually my favorite holiday.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
It's I love the food, the family, obviously, being thankful
for life and all, you know, all the blessing football
man did I'm thanky.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
It's my favorite.
Speaker 4 (36:40):
So I'm like, I'll give you, guys, if we're counting
Halloween all you you can have it, you know, give me.
Speaker 7 (36:46):
Give me.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
But I'm better than Christmas.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
Thanks I don't know. I've just always been that kind
of proud Thanksgiving for some reason. For me, it's just
I don't know, it's always been that.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
I don't know how you would love Thanksgiving, especially since
you grew up as a Lions fan and you watch
have football your whole life.
Speaker 4 (37:02):
That's why thanks That's why I thank god. Mama's food
was good. Something had to be good on the day.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
Montang it Manzi, where are you well?
Speaker 13 (37:09):
So I don't eat anything with the face, so like
Thanksgiving for me is no, no, I'm not eating it.
I'm having sides like mashed potatoes and mac and cheese.
Speaker 14 (37:18):
I do love green bean cast throw.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
So if I put a bag over the turkey's head,
could you eat it? That's great?
Speaker 4 (37:24):
Do you know?
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Hey?
Speaker 7 (37:24):
I like that?
Speaker 13 (37:26):
Think of it over ten years.
Speaker 14 (37:31):
Yeah, over ten years, but I do.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
Like, what has it done for you?
Speaker 2 (37:34):
Real question, real quick.
Speaker 13 (37:37):
I stopped eating red meat because I used to get
a lot of stomach aches. And then I stopped eating
red meat and my stomach aches went away. And then
you kind of just you're like, oh, well, maybe I'll
look into it. And then I stopped just eating the
rest of it.
Speaker 14 (37:47):
And I never cared for fish, you know.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
You know what I say that people don't eat red meat?
What more for me?
Speaker 14 (37:52):
Yes, you can have it all.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
You can have it all meat.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
But I can't give you fish. Fish is phenomenal.
Speaker 14 (37:59):
I've never so it was like an easy thing for
me to not.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
You know, where would we do with all these animals?
Speaker 13 (38:05):
If I'm that's what I miss, like on the bone
like a hot wing. My mouth is salivating. Account I can't.
Speaker 14 (38:13):
That's what I miss.
Speaker 5 (38:14):
But I'm not gonna do it, Okay, all right, Alex,
Absolutely the most overrated holiday Thanksgiving. We're not all ka
dot who have seventeen children have a penthouse up in
the hills. Get with the Kardashians, have them bring our
kids to school. We don't have a gated community. We
don't have that lifestyle us, Rob, hardworking people. I don't
want to see family that we don't get along with
most of our family. They have their own weird political,
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religious beliefs. And now I'm forcede food that probably she
doesn't even make. Well, I'm just saying I think Thanksgiving
has been a forced holiday which is based off of
taking over the land.
Speaker 6 (38:45):
By the way, nothing good about it.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
We wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
We would ask Brandon, but he's going his voice is
not not there, so we're gonna pass on Brandon.
Speaker 6 (38:56):
Rob, what about you?
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Yaga yay or nay on Thanksgimming? Can you hear me?
So nay on Thanksgiving? I'm gonna I'm gonna say, and
also nay to on Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
Well, first of all, that wasn't the question. The question
is it wasn't your favorite? Is it the worst?
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Uh, I'm not going to say it's the worst, because
I gotta be honest.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
I'm not into Halloween at all.
Speaker 14 (39:24):
You're crazy, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
I'm not in the Halloween.
Speaker 6 (39:29):
In office.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
He's got a point. Matter of fact, I thought you
would be on the corner of Hollywood
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Coming up about twenty eight minutes, it's the college kids.
Seierra Clark is coming by, host of CT podcast, Sierra Clark,
and we got a little shop talk. Is Thanksgiving the
worst major holiday of the year.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Yeah, Rob g wants some smoke today.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Huh, I guess so. So we got all of that
coming up in our number two. And don't forget a
Thursday Night Football. I don't know, I don't I'll just.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Are you Are you talking about Buffalo.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Bills and the Texans? Like I don't want to be
a kill joy, but I just are you hyped?
Speaker 4 (01:41):
There is a reason you glad you asked me because
you lead us to our topic here. The reason I
think anyone will be hyped today is specifically Josh Allen.
Josh Allen spectacular raining MVP. Last week did some stuff
that no one else does at the rate he's doing it.
Three touchdowns through the air, three touchdowns on the ground.
It's just been He's spectacular. So if anyone's excited, it's
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because he's in it. The Texans are great defensively, but yeah,
you know, don't necessarily bring a bunch of I expect
the gain to be close because of their defense.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
But leading to our topic, there's a discussion that is.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Josh Allen the greatest running and passing the dual threat
quarterback ever and he enters tonight rob Thursday Night Football
tied with Cam Newton for the most regular season rushing
touchdowns by a quarterback in NFL history. He had They
both have seventy five, so one more he's gonna break
the record, And then of course you start to look
at the stuff that he's been able to do. He
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has ten rushing touchdowns so far this season, trailing only
Jonathan Taylor, who's a running back. In Green Bay's Josh
Jacob who's a running back, So he's doing stuff at
a rate as if he's a running back when you're
talking getting any the inzon, so the question becomes is
he the greatest dual threat quarterback ever? And the answer
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is yes, and it's ju literally because of what I
just mentioned there. If you're asking me who's the most exciting,
effortless video game looking.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
That is Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
If you're just talking about a guy who can get
the yards because he's a Lamar has way more yards
to him. When you're talking about just total yards rushing,
Lamar Jackson is ahead of him in that ring. But
when you're talking about excitement, I think of Michael Vick,
I think of Lamar Jackson as I mentioned, But productivity
as far as getting your running but in the end zone,
that is Josh Allen jumping over people, running people over
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and then still have the ability to turn around three
throw three touchdowns, Josh Allen has become that simply edging
out Lamar in a sense of productivity in the end zone.
As far as aesthetically, that's still Lamar for me. Like
as far as just pure when I watch this person play,
I go, okay, this is just he looks like he's
playing against college players of the high school players. Lamar
still has that. But as far as getting it done
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on the productivity side, specifically with the running in the
end zone, Lamar just edges him out. Josh just edges
him out for me, and the stuff that both of
them have done, by the way the ages they are
is crazy.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
It's not like they're at the end of their career.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
They're gonna set records so far ahead of everybody. When
it comes to Lamar with the rushing yards, when it
comes to Josh Allen with the touchdowns for a quarterback, Henna,
he's on a trajectory at the end of the twenty
twenty eight season to have triple digit rushing touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
That's insane. So that's where I am. He's the greatest one.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
You're talking about getting the job done in the end zone,
whether it be passing, whether it be running.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Where are you I have a feeling you're more Lamar.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Yeah, I don't think it's close, and you're just putting
up The issue I have is to think it's just
about numbers, Okay, And it's not just about numbers, because
that's a style of play that the Bills have decided
they want to go with with Josh Allen, and unlike that.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Everybody could criticize.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Lamar when he was running the ball in and he
obviously decided that he didn't have to do that anymore, right,
have to give up his body and wind up getting hurt.
And I'll give you a couple of examples on why
Josh Allen isn't the best dual threat. It's Lamar Jackson
and it's not even close. John Stockton has is the
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all time assist leader. Nobody thinks he's the better passor
than Magic Johnson. No zero, even though he has more assists. Right,
he's done it better than that. Oh, he got all
the assists. Nobody thinks he's better passor than Magic Johnson.
Another one, Tom Brady. Tom Brady has all the stats,
all the stuff you want. You talk to anybody in
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the NFL and take away the Super Bowls because that's
what puts him on everybody's list, and say who's the
best quarterback? Skill, arm, strained, accuracy, all that. Tom Brady
is not the best quarterback. He's the most accomplished quarterback.
(05:56):
He would you agree with that he's not the best quarterback,
but you Aaron Rodgers, right, you could pick five guys
easily ahead of Tom Brady. He's the most accomplished because
when you put the winning and all those stats, then
you could say, yeah, tom Brady for people want to
say he's their goat or whatever it is, but it
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doesn't make him the best quarterback. And the same thing
with Josh Allen. I don't think he's I don't think
there's an ounce he that there's If I stack those
two guys up together, I would take Lamar ten out
of ten out as being a dual threat. Lamar's throwing
the football and where he is with the passing game
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and trying to stop that. Dude, I'm not talking about
just from the one yard line or instead of getting
it's off to the full back or the running back
or whatever, going in yourself rather than giving it to
somebody else. And that's what he does and a lot
of times you can still run in for more than
a yard or two out.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
But that's the play that they call the style of play.
So I'm I'm not. I don't.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
I don't believe he's better than Lamar as far as
a dual threat.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
I think the difference for me again is a couple
of things.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
One, his ability is size like that always makes it
where he can just run guys over and get up
like it was nothing and still again go right back
to the airing it out and neb Also again, Lamar
has thirty four touchdowns and again we talked about seventy five,
so he has less than half of Josh Allen when
it talks to just getting an enzone, and that to
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me is just a small hair on my chinny chin
chin separator. You know, I think Lamar Jackson's the best
player when everything.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
How do you think he's the best player.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
If you say that Josh Allen is the best dual
threat quarterback in the history of the NFL, how can
Lamar be better than him?
Speaker 3 (07:44):
I tell you what, please, because that makes no sense
to me. I tell you why.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Because Lamar's speed alone, that portion of it makes them different.
But I'm talking about for me, Josh Allen getting Indian
zone throwing in the enzone.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
That's but I'm telling you for me, so Lamar.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
But if he's the best dual threat quarterback, ever, how
could he not be better than Lamar?
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Great?
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Yeh, is he the greatest dual threat quarterback? So if
he's the greatest dual threat quarterback, he's not better than Lamar?
Speaker 4 (08:15):
How No, because m Lamar's passing ability right now, because
of the way he plays, he's getting We already talk
about it his winning percentage, right we talk about the
way Lamar, his style of play, his winning I think
he's at what seventy two percent of his games or
something crazy like that. Lamar, especially the early part of
his career when he was more run century Lamar. Right now,
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both of those guys are video game players, which is
why the last three four years is gonna be pick
your choice of who is gonna win the MVP.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
So Lamar makes it look so effortless.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
It looks like a video game, as does Josh, but
Lamar makes it He's a little bit more trickier to
game plan for, and he's just a little bit more unique.
But when I'm saying just simply do a threat and
it's close if you say Lamar, if I'm not mad
at you, I just think for me, his ability, his
being Josh to get in the end zone both ways
is the small separator for me that that's the only difference.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Saying.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Geo logical that then Lamar is a better player because
what I.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Don't know what? Okay, let me respind that.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Let me because it doesn't does.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
I don't understand that, but see I don't. This is
where we're different.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
Patrick Mahomes had been the best player for years and
he's no wing near as dynamic as either. He can run,
but no way near as dynamics. So it's not just
being a great runner doesn't simply make you the best player.
Aaron Rodgers was the best player and he wasn't the
most running quarterback.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
So RUSS player doesn't equate to just simply.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
No, but it says that the great all right, I'm
just trying when you say.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
You know what I'm saying, like lam Lamar being the
best doesn't mean he's that he has to have better
legs or like you can.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Peyton Manny was the best player for some time. He
wasn't running.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Nowhere, No, But what the idea that you're talking about
the same two guys. You're saying, You've said Lamar is
the best player in the league, but Josh Allen is
the best duel because things so they're not because they
both do that.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
They both do that, they both.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
Know.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
These two guys are both dual right with that?
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Yeah, absolutely, okay, but you're probably the best to edits.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Okay, So but but you say Lamar is the best quarterback,
but he's the best duel.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Threat because Lamar doesn't Lamar is a capability is more
so maybe getting out the pocket some scrambles. I'll run
around Josh is a lot of times I'm getting in
the end zone. So it ends in the results of
him getting in the end zone one way, the one way,
or they're through air or through running. And that's to
me when I'm saying the only that threat of him
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scoring from it. He has seventy five rushing house Lamalley
has thirty four.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
But a massive difference.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Yeah, but but it's just not. I just gave you
the example of the John Stockton. You think John Stockton
is a better point guard than think Johnson.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
But no, no, no, why not. What I'm saying but that
he has more assistant magic and magic.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
Johnson was bigger, magic, Johnson was stronger, magic, Johnson.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Was able to score better and something.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
But it's more than just as simple that that's what
a dual threat. Both of them are have gotten really
good as fast as over the years.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
But they both But would you would you acknowledge that
the Ravens have gone away from Lamar being they got
Derek hen Reid, they had other that that's not what
they want Lamar to do it, not that he can't
do it, is that they don't want him to do it,
and it's a style of play.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
That's what I'm trying to say that.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
So if we had that Lamar can't do it two
years ago or in two years from now, I might,
you know, change a thing. But as of the last
two couple couple of years, we've seen Josh Allen and
I told you that's why I think singularly won him
that m v P last year. And he was running
all over the place, jumping over people in snow doing literally.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Buy but he wasn't of NFL All First Team All
Pro quarterble.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Hey, they changed their vote. What you want from me? Rob,
What do you want for me.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
None of this makes sense to.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Me, all right, they changed their votes.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox. Maybe you understand
Kelvin because I don't. I don't know how you get it, don't.
I don't get it. I don't know how. If Josh
Allen is the best dual threat quarterback of all time,
he should be the best player right now.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Oh God, I just think that that's they go hand
in hand.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Is Josh Allen the greatest dual threat quarterback of all time?
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Kelvin says yes. I say hell.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
No, Oh God, no, pill. Yeah, we'll continue that conversation
next with you. We want to hear from you. Eight seven,
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Speaker 6 (12:37):
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Shoot, I don't know if your phone is ringing rob
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Speaker 2 (13:18):
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Okay, it's the eye couple of Robin Kelvin on the
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Speaker 3 (13:33):
Oh gone, oh god, this show.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
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Yeah, well I'm glad I'm reading right now. I got to.
Don't worry about it. I got it.
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Eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox Who We Got?
Speaker 2 (14:23):
How about Ben? In Miami? You're on the a couple
of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Ben?
Speaker 8 (14:29):
Hey, guys, how's it going?
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Gross up?
Speaker 7 (14:31):
Ben?
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Not that bad.
Speaker 9 (14:35):
I just wanted to say more specifically about last year's
MVP that I only think that Josh got it because
Lamar had won it beforehand. But I think as you
compare the actual numbers and statistics, Lamar played better last year.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
There's no doubt about No, There's no doubt that was ridiculous, Ben,
it was.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
It was ridiculous.
Speaker 7 (14:52):
But who you got?
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Who you got?
Speaker 9 (14:54):
I mean, I mean from dual threat, I mean you
gotta go Lamar. I mean his his ability just to
lose people and and and go down as on Parallel,
I agree.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
I just I think he's unbelievable. He's must see TV.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Thanks Ben for the call and the support.
Speaker 10 (15:13):
Appreciate you, no doubt, Thank you, Corny, Corey and Kansas.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
You're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Corey?
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Hey?
Speaker 11 (15:21):
What's going on? Man?
Speaker 2 (15:22):
How are you?
Speaker 11 (15:23):
I'm doing pretty good?
Speaker 8 (15:25):
Good?
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Where are you in Kansas?
Speaker 8 (15:27):
Which ta Kansas?
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Wichita? All right, Well, I've only been through the airport once. Yeah,
the world, there you go.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
I've never been there, Wichita. Not much to see, Okay.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
I drove, I flew there and drove to Tulsa, Oklahoma.
Speaker 11 (15:41):
Oh yeah, that's a lovely drive. Yeah, in my opinion,
you know, it's gotta be Josh Allen. You know, touchdowns
aren't just a little thing.
Speaker 9 (15:50):
You know, he scored that many touchdowns.
Speaker 8 (15:54):
We'll get me wrong.
Speaker 12 (15:55):
Lamar Jackson's great dual threat quarterback.
Speaker 11 (15:57):
But you know, Josh Allen, when you add the.
Speaker 8 (15:59):
Touch sounds plus the tasting ability, thanks a little bit
better than Lamar's and Mike can In. But I agree
with Calvin hits hits some more.
Speaker 11 (16:07):
Eric Allen, all.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Right, I appreciate you could be wrong in Kansas? Is okay? Dorothy?
Thanks all right?
Speaker 3 (16:13):
No, he know what it is. It's that man west
love brother.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
All right, Thank you? Greg?
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Yeah, Greg and Vegas. You're on the odd couple of
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
What's up? Greg?
Speaker 11 (16:25):
Hey, So let's what's up.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
How y'all doing?
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Many?
Speaker 12 (16:29):
Hey man, good man?
Speaker 11 (16:30):
And this suck's coming from a Dolphin fan. But I
gotta give it to Josh Allen, Like, what are we
talking about here? Like, I'm not scared of Lamar Jackson
in the pocket. I'm scared of Josh Allen. He's a
walking touchdown waiting to happen passing or rushing. And please, Rob,
you gotta stop with that. Stockton Magic Johnson a narrative
man one play, twenty season, one play, thirteen seasons.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
I'll give you another one. I'll give you another one.
Tom Brady. Tell me you disagree with that. Tom Brady
is not and all the greatest quarterback I'm talking about.
Ask anybody in the NFL not accomplished talking about arm strength, accuracy, escapability.
There are five guys better than Tom Brady.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
That is true.
Speaker 8 (17:14):
Okay, I give you that.
Speaker 11 (17:16):
But but with this Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson. Look, man,
he can He's the only one that I'm scared of
that can give you two hundred and fifty yards passing
along with two Russian touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Like, I don't know how you can say Lamar can't
give you Russian touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
That he doesn't. Though it's not that he can't.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Style of play does all of play.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
I mean, if you look at the passing nights.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
Josh Allen has two hundred and thirteen passing touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Lamar has one hundred and sixty six. Josh Allen has
seventy five rushing touchdowns. Lamar has.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
It's not just about compiling, I know, but I'm just saying,
but for me to answer the question of.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
The dude, I'm just saying, like I just saying, he's.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
Done and both of those things I told you, But
this it's skinning a hair, you know, skinning the hair
of a cat if we're talking about these two, cause
they're pretty much been the guys the last handful of season.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
When it comes to MVPs, one squeeze at a couple more.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Yeah, we got time for more.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Sean in Sacramento, you're on the autop Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
What's hey?
Speaker 8 (18:13):
Yeah, I'll go from another brother, cousin, Kelvy. My brother's
by the board with up Monci real quick shout out
to the sports group man, shout out to Cooper the
quick Man. I know we don't always get along in chat,
but y'all brothers are spot on today because.
Speaker 11 (18:26):
Ron Parker, you are full of with sugar.
Speaker 8 (18:29):
Now, brother, you need to take that cape off for
Lamar Jackson. He's having a down year. Not only are
you way wrong about the style of play, style of play,
King Henry is off this year. So he ain't taking
no goal line.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
No, but I'm saying they stopped They've stopped Lamar from
doing that. They don't need him to do that. He
could score for he could score from there. You can
come on now, he's a better player.
Speaker 8 (18:53):
So he has stopped himself. To Kelvin's point, the reason
why I get what he's talking about. Sure, Lamar looks
great at a quarterback, but when you want to talk
about durability, you want to talk about a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
No, that's not that's not the conversation.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
It's about being a dual thread who can score on
the ground and score on the air.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
It's Lamar and it's not.
Speaker 8 (19:14):
Definitely Josh Allen and it's a short man. You wins
and losses.
Speaker 11 (19:19):
Look at who's winning more this year?
Speaker 1 (19:21):
And now what's based on this year? It's all time.
Come on, Sean, We're not talking about just this year.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Thanks for the call, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Shot another one in Louisiana. You're in the couple of
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
What's up, Shack what's going on?
Speaker 12 (19:35):
Rub and Kevin. I don't know how they got Louisiana
out there. But let's cut to the chase, bro We
got to start with these touchdown merchants at quarterback. It's
the quarterback in Buffalo touchdown merchant. The mediocre quarterback in
Philly is another touchdown merchant. Lamar Jackson's bout far the
best duel threat quarterback. How are you better at a
prototype as josh Allen Kilvin? But Lamar is the better overall?
Speaker 2 (19:59):
All right, thank you?
Speaker 4 (20:01):
Shock It may because it makes because threat, it makes
no answer that. Let me answer this question. Because dual
threat doesn't mean you have to be the best. There
are plenty of time. I don understand whre you keep
saying that. There's plenty of understand you're the best tool
threat answer.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
You don't have to be a dual threat to be
the best. That Tom Brady was.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
Something and handful of the years the best, Peyton Manning
was the best.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
They wasn't runing nowhere. Dan Marino was the best for
a few years.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
Sometimes the best pocket What I'm saying is, sometimes the
best happens to be both. Sometimes the best is sometimes
it's a hybrid like Patrick Mahomes is a hybrid. He
can run, but he's not on their level. But he's
also he's so much superior passing. So best player to
me doesn't have to well, who's the best dual threat?
That that's like the NBA. The best player isn't always
the best on both sides of the ball.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Sometimes it is, sometimes it's illogical.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
I'm serious. Absolutely, let's squeeze in Lee in South Carolina.
You're on the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
What's up?
Speaker 4 (20:56):
Lead?
Speaker 12 (20:57):
I got Fainsville about that out this quarterback. I think
the boy Daniels and Washington teach the woman most bag
Clay last year a duel threat, no doubt.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
We like Jael Jake Daivils. But hold up, Josh and Lamar,
we're going crazy. Last year, come on, brother.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
And Lamar had the greatest year. Yeah, then the other
two m vps that he won, which was crazy.
Speaker 8 (21:24):
And I'm gonna say about the hang up, it's a
possibility neither one of them win a Super Bowl, though.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Well, as hard as it is to win a super Bowl,
I definitely could see Josh Allen not winning because.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
They've never won a Buffalo requests that's serious. I could
see it, but you know it's a great I can
see that. Thanks, Thanks, Lee appreciated.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
What's more likely.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
Lamar wins or Josh wins or like neither like? Is
there a chance that only one wins won? And if
if only one your case, you said, it'd be Lamar. Uh,
it'd be interesting if these two great quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
I saw a great quarterback and Jim Kelly up in Buffalo.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
They never won. Yeah, it's for Super Bowls.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
That running gun offense was crazy running shoot, I mean
runn shoot. All right, we got a thank you off
for the calls. Much appreciate it. On the way, we
got college kids. What's here, Clark, that'll be a fun
time right now. Mante Milana is gonna get you up
on what is trending?
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Updated guys.
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Speaker 2 (24:30):
Married you ready, Yes, I'm ready. Me and the right time.
Speaker 14 (24:33):
Thank you, Alex. Wait to cue that. That's perfect.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Me and my wife, who's ex wife now, but who
was from Detroit.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
We had season tickets to the Islander.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Can you imagine a thirty year old black couple sitting
there going to a hockey game?
Speaker 14 (24:47):
How good?
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Now?
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Did she like it? Are you just saying no, she
liked it?
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Yeah you didn't? You don't want to watch it right
on TV? Would she loved to go?
Speaker 14 (24:57):
How fun?
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (24:58):
I agree with that. I think baseball and hockey.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
We went to a lot of baseball games, and we
went to a lot of all hockey games.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
And then and then real life happened, and then, you know, we.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
Would love to die dissect what real life was.
Speaker 6 (25:14):
I never thought Tiger Woods would come between us.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
That's right, it's real.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
Right, real life is your obsession with with Tiger Woods.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
He ruled my marriage. It's just I hit. It's so
good today.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
It was fun at you.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
And his nine iron?
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Oh god, whoa wow? Can we get through it? The
college kids, It's.
Speaker 7 (25:36):
Time for the college kids here on the odd Come
a look at this week's college football through the eyes
of the young inexperience. They swear they know college ball, Yeah.
Speaker 11 (25:50):
Right, fundamentals are going to show up.
Speaker 7 (25:52):
Are there takes SOPHOMOREIC or graduation worth? Robin Calvin with
my son.
Speaker 6 (25:57):
Bring him on. That's right, baby.
Speaker 5 (25:59):
I know you're tired of Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington
aka Kevin telling you all this stuff.
Speaker 6 (26:04):
You already know. It's time to go deep into.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
The college football world, and no one better to bring
in than an absolute pro. Her name is Sierra Clark.
She is the host of the Sect podcast Sierra, how
are you doing today?
Speaker 14 (26:15):
Good?
Speaker 1 (26:16):
How are you?
Speaker 6 (26:17):
We're doing fantasms?
Speaker 12 (26:19):
Right?
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Yeah, Sierra sounds full of energy. We love it.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Heah, yeah, yeah, she better bring it.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
So if you guys don't know, Sierra is here to
tell us exactly the ins and outs of everything college football.
And Rob Parker and Kevin Washington I'm sorry, Kelvin Washington
are going to decide if she's graduating or staying in college.
So Sierra, first one she has on the docket is
if Lane Kiffin wants to win an easier route to
a Natty, he'll go to Florida or LSU. If he
(26:44):
wants to build a legacy, he could do that in Ole,
miss Sierra tell us why the thing is, And I'm.
Speaker 15 (26:51):
A Florida grad so selfishly I would love to have
Lane Kiffin as my head coach. But the thing is,
if Kiffen wants to do that legacy, he should stay
where he is right there at Ole Miss. Florida has
the Burrier. LSU had Nick Saban where they won a
national title there. Ole Miss has never won a national
(27:11):
title in the modern era. I mean the last time
they won one it was in the late nineteenth fifties,
and Mississippi looks very different than it does now. So
if he stays at ole Miss, he has the opportunity
to win a national title. It is hard to recruit there,
but he can get a statue, the field named after him,
all the things. He can't do that at LSU and
(27:33):
Florida because those fields already named after other people.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
All right, Sierra, you are not graduating because off Morrick.
You already blew up your own argument at They've never
won an Old Miss and can't recruit the same at
Ole Miss. And it's nice to say, d And if
you want a statue out of a place where you
never won, that's cool or whatever. But the idea of
(27:59):
being a head coach coach in college football and eventually,
you know, getting across the finish line and finally raising
that championship trophy. I think he goes what's best for
him money wise and gives him the best chance to win.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
Sierra. You're graduating, Nay. I always say congratulatings up. That's right,
you're graduating because a couple of points you made.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
So let's talk about Lane Kiffin has totally turned that
franchise around. That got the only teams a couple of
teams that are wins and then the sc Yeah, the program,
that's right, and you're talking about Georgia and you're talking
about Alabama.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
He's right there with them and wins the last five years.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
And because of the transfer portal and because of the nil,
he can absolutely have a chance to sneak in and
Natty in the next couple of years. Hey, maybe even
this year. So you stay there, create a name for yourself.
You've somehow you have been one of the more fumbling
your way up in your careers, Lane Kiff, and he's
fumbled into a great position. I don't know how he's
done it, and he's finally he talked about how the
(28:55):
schools changed his life, helped him get back on track.
Stay there, marry up that team that organizations that program,
and then you can go ahead and U maybe win something.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
But it makes it makes those sense for him to leave.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
And then Sierra, you'll be ripping him saying how he
never won a national championship because he stayed at Ole Miss.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Remember that.
Speaker 6 (29:12):
Okay, Uh, leave it to Professor Parkers and I graduate.
Speaker 5 (29:16):
Somebody who would have ever expected it is college Kids
with Sierra Clark, host of the SECT podcast. And so
Sierra's second take, may I say, I'm excited to see
what she has to say. Timing of the transfer portal
window needs to change.
Speaker 6 (29:30):
Sierra tell us.
Speaker 15 (29:30):
Why, Yeah, one window does help. Right now it's from
January second to the sixteen. But that just really impacts
those teams are in the playoffs, like you're Ohio States,
You're Georgia, and players who are sitting the bench on
those teams they want to leave, but they could potentially
their number could get called if somebody gets hurt. So
I just think they need to push the playoff the
(29:51):
trade of portal date to later January early February. However,
that does kind of depend on each school schedule, but
I think acceptance exceptions need to be made for these
college football athletes if they want to go to another
school because it's conflicts with their bowl games.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
Unfortunately, Sierra, you graduated, congratulates, got to give.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
It to you.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
Here's why it actually just ties into lang Kiffin as well,
because they're talks to him leaving LSU as we just
discussed talks to him going to other schools.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
Well, he would.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
They would have to make a decision before the college
football playoffs because you got the transfer portal, you gotta
start talking to coaches, the availability to talk to them.
These schedules get so tight for schools to make decisions
and players to make decisions.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
So they need to give it a few.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
More weeks, stretch it out, because you got twelve teams
in the Coage Fotball playoffs. Before you know it, you're
gonna have twenty four and that'll be too many schools
that have to make decisions. So rashly as opposed to
giving them a couple of weeks to settle down after
the playoffs and figure out what they want to do.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
I want to say sophomoric once again, back to back
to Sierra, what's the time schedule the transfer portal for
coaches walking out on players?
Speaker 2 (31:03):
When is that there's none?
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Okay, I'm just saying, like I rest my case, like
why you got to be restrictive to the players, but
the coaches get to walk whenever they want.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
I just don't.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Figure those are the rules that are laid out. They
need to figure it out.
Speaker 5 (31:21):
Well said, There you go, odd couple with Rob Parker,
Calvin Washington, the great Sierra Clark here for the Sect podcast.
Speaker 6 (31:28):
Now the last take of the Night Boys.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
She says what she say.
Speaker 5 (31:33):
College football playoffs. They don't need to expand serious. Tell
us why?
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Yes?
Speaker 15 (31:39):
And Rob, I know the last time I came on here,
you mentioned a lot about money, money, money, and I
get it. More playoffs teams equals more money. But when
the playoff is going on for so long and you're
seeing South Florida play Georgia and Georgia's beating them by
forty points, I'm tired of watching it by then. And
I love college football, but I don't want to see that.
I want to see the big dog go up against
(32:00):
each other both teams. Is already enough because we're seeing
teams like Miamis who They aren't even going to play
in the AGC Championship, but are being talking about being in.
Speaker 8 (32:11):
The college football playoffs.
Speaker 15 (32:12):
It just doesn't make sense to me. Twelve is enough
and we don't need more.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Teams, all right for once, Sierra's graduating.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Shut up, all right.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
I know this is all about money and a big
money grab, but I'm with you enough. I don't want
to see a three month long playoff because they want
to put forty eight teams in it.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
I'm with you. I don't even want twelve.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
I don't think there's even twelve viable that can win
the national championship. Four was good for me, so I'm
with you. We don't need to expand anymore on college football.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Man, this was your best day ever with me because
a graduating What you been doing?
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Why this is why you can't teach at USC because
you're an easy greater?
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Hey, Rob, you better stop it. You're so easy. Not
only do they graduate, they get a job with you.
Our home staff is nothing but your former students.
Speaker 6 (33:09):
Oh God, Doug Kelvin.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Sierra, you're graduating because listen and Robin, you touched her. Look,
we're rewarding mediocrity, like, hey, you can be eight and
four and have a chance to get in, and we're
losing the scarcity and the significance of the regular season.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
Though they're gone too far.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
It should be twelve is already too many. But fine,
if we can't go backwards, so leave it at twelve.
Stop messing with it for at least fifteen twenty years,
then we can reassess, not two.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
Three, four, five years.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
All right?
Speaker 6 (33:40):
And that's college kids with Sierra.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Thank you, Sierra, great job, very Erra, Sierra.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
Listen, listen because you're because you're in class with us.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
Rob's gonna offer you a job when this ends.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
There you go, well, I think she's on the radio
with us.
Speaker 16 (33:55):
How's that? That is Rob offering everybody if you we're
in and at all? Right, thanks, I have a great there,
no doubt it's here that next. She's gotten really really
good with that.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
She's on MLB bro.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
You know, I know that.
Speaker 6 (34:10):
I don't know how that feels. I don't know how
that feels.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Alex, You're going to be on MLB bro one day.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
One day, Alex, I told you we just got to
update your ancestry back. Now, all you need is point
one percent black. You in there, but this right from
the waist down.
Speaker 10 (34:24):
Where's that we need your Alex Austin al alert alert
shop talk on the that's if we still have jobs.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 7 (34:39):
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It is now time for shop talk.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Ain't nobody's not being a ball shopping?
Speaker 7 (35:13):
You know that.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
Ain't nobody is You talk about whoever, whatever whatever you
want to in the Boss shop.
Speaker 5 (35:19):
Wait, you know it's chopped talking ladies and gentlemen, boys
and girls and Mancy Belanos. It's time to talk about
things outside of the world as sports, because we are
worldly gentlemen and we like to do things that don't
always revolve around a pig skin, bouncing ball or things
that go bang. It's time to talk about something coming
up next week. And now, Rob Parker and I are
the hardest working men in radio. You can't deny that
(35:39):
because we're both gonna be your Thanksgiving Rob, right.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
And I'm bringing food. I'm gonna bring a sweet potato
Pody plause. We are going to eat and work, Alex.
We have to hold the odd couple together eight years strong.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
That's why this show is still going strong.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
I need y'all to go get some families. It's something
y'all are tripping.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
If y'all what it is, It's okay to go enjoy
some turkey with the family.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
What are y'all doing?
Speaker 5 (36:03):
Yeah, we'll have turkey after that's right, baby. We work
hard for the people. Now, guys, I want to talk
about this real quick and gets your topic and thoughts
on it. So, between the travel prices, the obligations to conversate,
and the inconsistent food quality based on whoever's hosting, Thanksgiving
has recently developed an online reputation as.
Speaker 6 (36:21):
Being the worst major holiday of the year. Guys, what
do you think.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
I totally disagree. It's actually my favorite holiday.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
It's I love the food, the family, obviously, being thankful
for life and all, you know, all the blessing football
man did I'm thanky.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
It's my favorite.
Speaker 4 (36:40):
So I'm like, I'll give you, guys, if we're counting
Halloween all you you can have it, you know, give me.
Speaker 7 (36:46):
Give me.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
But I'm better than Christmas.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
Thanks I don't know. I've just always been that kind
of proud Thanksgiving for some reason. For me, it's just
I don't know, it's always been that.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
I don't know how you would love Thanksgiving, especially since
you grew up as a Lions fan and you watch
have football your whole life.
Speaker 4 (37:02):
That's why thanks That's why I thank god. Mama's food
was good. Something had to be good on the day.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
Montang it Manzi, where are you well?
Speaker 13 (37:09):
So I don't eat anything with the face, so like
Thanksgiving for me is no, no, I'm not eating it.
I'm having sides like mashed potatoes and mac and cheese.
Speaker 14 (37:18):
I do love green bean cast throw.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
So if I put a bag over the turkey's head,
could you eat it? That's great?
Speaker 4 (37:24):
Do you know?
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Hey?
Speaker 7 (37:24):
I like that?
Speaker 13 (37:26):
Think of it over ten years.
Speaker 14 (37:31):
Yeah, over ten years, but I do.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
Like, what has it done for you?
Speaker 2 (37:34):
Real question, real quick.
Speaker 13 (37:37):
I stopped eating red meat because I used to get
a lot of stomach aches. And then I stopped eating
red meat and my stomach aches went away. And then
you kind of just you're like, oh, well, maybe I'll
look into it. And then I stopped just eating the
rest of it.
Speaker 14 (37:47):
And I never cared for fish, you know.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
You know what I say that people don't eat red meat?
What more for me?
Speaker 14 (37:52):
Yes, you can have it all.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
You can have it all meat.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
But I can't give you fish. Fish is phenomenal.
Speaker 14 (37:59):
I've never so it was like an easy thing for
me to not.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
You know, where would we do with all these animals?
Speaker 13 (38:05):
If I'm that's what I miss, like on the bone
like a hot wing. My mouth is salivating. Account I can't.
Speaker 14 (38:13):
That's what I miss.
Speaker 5 (38:14):
But I'm not gonna do it, Okay, all right, Alex,
Absolutely the most overrated holiday Thanksgiving. We're not all ka
dot who have seventeen children have a penthouse up in
the hills. Get with the Kardashians, have them bring our
kids to school. We don't have a gated community. We
don't have that lifestyle us, Rob, hardworking people. I don't
want to see family that we don't get along with
most of our family. They have their own weird political,
(38:36):
religious beliefs. And now I'm forcede food that probably she
doesn't even make. Well, I'm just saying I think Thanksgiving
has been a forced holiday which is based off of
taking over the land.
Speaker 6 (38:45):
By the way, nothing good about it.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
We wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
We would ask Brandon, but he's going his voice is
not not there, so we're gonna pass on Brandon.
Speaker 6 (38:56):
Rob, what about you?
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Yaga yay or nay on Thanksgimming? Can you hear me?
So nay on Thanksgiving? I'm gonna I'm gonna say, and
also nay to on Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
Well, first of all, that wasn't the question. The question
is it wasn't your favorite? Is it the worst?
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Uh, I'm not going to say it's the worst, because
I gotta be honest.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
I'm not into Halloween at all.
Speaker 14 (39:24):
You're crazy, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
I'm not in the Halloween.
Speaker 6 (39:29):
In office.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
He's got a point. Matter of fact, I thought you
would be on the corner of Hollywood
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