October 3, 2025 • 38 mins
Super Producer Rob G is in for Rob, and he and Kelvin discuss why Sean McVay seems to get himself all out of sorts when he matches up with Kyle Shanahan, tell us if the Los Angeles Rams are truly an elite team in the NFC, and explain why last night's blunder in the Padres-Cubs game is further proof why the ABS challenge system can't get here soon enough. Plus, former NFL quarterback and FOX Sports Radio NFL analyst Shaun King swings by to discuss the most alarming thing about the Rams, what impresses him so much about Mac Jones, why Shedeur Sanders can't seem to climb up the Cleveland Browns quarterback depth chart, what to make of Lamar Jackson and the 1-3 Baltimore Ravens, and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:25):
That's right, it is The Odd Couple on a Funky
Flashback Friday. Me Kelvin Washington, Rob g In for Rob Parker.
Hopefully you're having a good one as we have now
gotten to the weekend. A lot in store this hour
we have We'll be down with Sean King. It's right
down with the King, former NFL quarterback, Fox Sports Radio
NFL analysts. And then also next hour we're gonna have
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as we always do during football season. Lamar Mitchell bet MGM,
director of Trading, will get you ready for that if
you want to know some of the odds and have
some fun over the weekend as well. So a lot
to get you on this funky Flashback Friday. One of
the things I wanted to talk about was we were
just hinting on a little bit the last break there
was just a great game that ended up being Thursday
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night football. And you know, Thursday night it's a crapshoot.
Thursday night football. You don't know what you're gonna get.
It's gonna be a good one. Like last night, it
could be absolutely a toilet bowl, as I call them,
but we ended up getting a good one between two
rivals and the forty nine ers and the Rams. But
ultimately it came down to a couple of things and
in really good game that ends the game, that goes
into overtime, and one of the plays that everybody's gonna
(01:29):
talk about, of course, is that fourth down run by
Kyron Williams that Sean McVay decides to go for.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
There.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Now, what made an interesting rob ge is like they
were lined up like they're going for it, held on
for a second, forty nine Ers called the timeout, Rams
come back out.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
I think they might even call it time.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
And finally you get to the play and they run
a pretty much essentially a quick handoff to Kyron Williams,
who's probably what five nine two hundred pounds behind two
wide receives, two wide receivers up the gut, and you're
just kind of like it was. Okay, it was a
terrible play card. Let me let me dissect a few
things here. Let me get this scalt pol real quick
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number one. The reason why is the terrible play is
because you probably have the best receiver in the NFL,
since Debo isn't quiet what he used to be of.
Just if I give you the ball, you're getting three yards.
I mean if I just literally hype, well, I don't care,
You're gonna fall forward for two to three yards. AJ
Brown could be in that comparison as well. He just
doesn't get the ball enough. He's a polar opposite of Pooker,
Whomember for the Poop gets all the time. AJ Brown
(02:28):
poo could give me some of the receptions, I don't
get none. I don't want him as my quarterback. I
don't want him as my quarterback. Pook And the cool
gets all the receptions. You know what, Also, Pooka has
you seeing you saw it last night. They do little
rub routes. Davante Adams kind of does little things that
get get him. Just get him open a little bit
because he's gonna catch the ball for four or five yards,
then get another five or six because he's like that,
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and so the idea that you wouldn't run a play
for your best offensive weapon or your other one, and
DeVante was just huge in general. Just give him, let
him just fall for a yard, and that you would
run it with the running back that's not built like that.
You're not giving it to Derrick Henry. You're not giving
it to you know, Jerome Bette, some other guys from
back in the day, beast mode where you know they're
gonna get this yard. And you didn't run behind as
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you mentioned, the big lineup. You didn't have the bigs
out there. So that was just a bad play and
there's no way through timeouts. That's what you come up
with unless as Sean mcvayh talked about, he said, essentially
it was a bad call on me. He was mad
about going for it. He said he got his ego
got in the way, and I do believe that matter.
I think he looked across the field. I think he
(03:32):
saw his counterpart in Kyle Sayd and you know, two
of the smarter young guys in the NFL the last
handful of years. I think he got too caught up
in that. I think he got caught in the fact
that why are we even why are we even having
to try.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
To win this game and not blowing them out.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
They have no receivers, they have nobody out there, they
got a backup quarterback. How are we even a position
to even potentially lose this game? I think that weighed
in as well, and I think he just made a
bad decision. And when I was watching that, this is
one of the things that I have to give credit
to and it drives me crazy. Let me preface sometimes
as a fan of said person and said team, Dan Campbell,
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Dan Gamble, Dan Campbell and the Lions, because one of
the things they've gone for fourth downs at a higher
rate than just about anybody.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
We all know they're gonna do.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
It is that because that's who we are, meaning the team.
They're built like it, and they all know this is
what we do. You've heard to talk about it for
the last few years. They're like, this is what we do,
we practice it, we want to do it. We actually
will be mad if we didn't do it. And to
a fault, it did bite them in the NFC Championship
game against the forty nine ers as well, but they're
prepared for that. And Sean McVay, who is one of
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the more conservative quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Coaches when it comes to going for things on fourth down,
doesn't really do it often. As far as the league
is kind of trajectory going up, they don't do it
as much. I think that's the difference when you're not
prepared for it. The Lions do this. They'll go for two,
they'll go for fourth down, they'll go for fourth down
and fourth you know, everybody, Okay, we'll go for fourth
and one. They'll go for fourth and six if they
want to. And their Bill Ford, they've trained for it mentally,
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they're prepared and it seems like they always dropped the
right play. And you can see Sean McVay got out
of his skis got he got into his ego bag.
I want to show that I'm the brainiac. I want
to show it's not Kyle. I want to show that
we're gonna be big and we're gonna do this and
we're gonna win the game. And he got a little
you know, and the rams right now this season there's
been some struggle with that.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
I am not This isn't a hymn thing.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
This is maybe a special teams coach How are you
getting kicks blocked regularly?
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Now? Why are you missing kicks regularly? Now?
Speaker 1 (05:34):
And Sean mcvay's an incredible coach, but right now, they've
been a couple of games where they're probably you know,
they wake up today like how are we not five?
Speaker 3 (05:41):
And oh? How are we not five?
Speaker 1 (05:44):
And oh we make a field goal against them, them
being the Eagles, we get this four down, we score.
You know, if I don't overthink it, I have the
best player at the balls, who Matthew Stafford. Let him
throw on his those side passes to Puoka. Now it's
sitting here five and oh, but instead they're three and two.
And I mentioned it to Is yesterday when Rob was here,
said they got to win this game because now forty
(06:05):
nine ers or four and one Seahawks will have their
game with a chance to be four and one. And
you just don't want to keep falling down the vision
thinking all will bounce back, because you just don't know.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
And there's other teams.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Right we look at the NFC North, looks like the
Lions could win the division or at least be right
there with the Packers.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
There's others. You just don't know how things work.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Out where you look at yourself and you're like, how
the heck do how the heck do we not make
the postseason this year? But that was an example of
me of just not being overly prepared for those types
of things when you look at the counterpart of an
example like a Dan Gamble, Dan Campbell, where they're you
cannot want us to do it, but we're going to
and this is what we do and we're ready to
execute it because this is who we are, because this
(06:41):
is exactly who we are.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
No, I agree with you, and I'm not going to
say I won't go so far as say that Sean McVay,
you know, is shook when it comes to Kyle Shanahan,
but he definitely doesn't act like himself when he's coaching
against Kyle Shanahan. And maybe it's because he had that
eleven and six of regular season record head to head
and the one win again shout out to Rob Parker
(07:03):
that he has in the posty. They faced off once
in the playoffs NC Championship game. If Jakwoski tard catches
an interception that hits him in the chest, then he's
owned one in the playoffs too.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Boy, If he got a penny for every time y'all
memory Bonaire, right, So someone's got to I'm glad it
could be the Ode couple. But Sean McVay, who is
a great coach, He is gonna be in the Hall
of Fame. He has his own tree, like we're half
the league, the guys who either worked with Sean McVay
or knew Sean McVay at a certain point in time
(07:33):
so they got hired as a job in the NFL.
He is a phenomenal coach, but there is something about
when he goes against Kyle Shannon, and maybe it's because
McVeigh technically is part of Kyle Shanahan street. If you
want to play that game where he always feels like it's.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
To your point. I gotta I gotta one up this
guy like he we both know what we want to do,
we both know each other inside and out. So I'm
gonna zig when I normally didn't because he expected me
to zag. So I kind of got it overthinking over
smart my own self to beat this guy. And that's
a problem because you're gonna face him twice a year normally.
(08:11):
When these teams are healthy, they're gonna be really good,
and there's a good chance he might face shut there
in the postseason. So if you can't allow yourself in
a game like last night where Matthew staffords though for
three eighty nine, three touchdowns, no picks. To your point,
you have the best player on the field in Buka Dakua, who,
aside from being the best wide receiver this season, he's
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arguably been the best player like this side of Lamar Jackson.
Just gonna snap by snap basis. He's been that good.
And your decision is after a timeout to run a
running half back dive behind two wide receivers with the
small back the small running back. It's like the obvious
answer is too obvious. I can't do that because Kyle's
(08:55):
expecting me to be obvious. So I gotta I gotta
really out smart him here by call something like this.
And that's a problem. But to your final point, this
might be my bigger takeaway from last night's game is
I don't know if the Rams are good like And
this hurts me to say, because my dad, rest in peace,
is a diehard Rams fan.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
You know, even in heavit he's a Rams fan. I'm
sure at you right now, I'm I'm sure he would
have called me, like, man, did you see that game
last night?
Speaker 3 (09:23):
With that were they're like, you know, but.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
They beat Houston, who we know now is not any good.
It was fourteen nine. It was a struggle in that game.
They struggled for three quarters against Tennessee who was winless
at h to four. Those are teams are combined one
and seven. The only reason Houston even has a win
is because they faced Tennessee last week, so one of
them had to win, right ye. Philadelphia spotted them an
entire half of football where they didn't show up and
(09:49):
still found a way to win that game last weeks Indianapolis,
which is a good win for them because Indianapolis is
much better people think. If you watch that game and
you're not just looking at the box score. Ady Mitchell
has a long touchdown where he drops the ball going
to the end zone.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
That's okay, Why people can't just wait?
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Why do they got to DeShawn Jackson it every time?
But that happens, And on what should have been the
game winning touchdown run by Jonathan Taylor, Ady Mitchell again
has a phantom holding call which wipes it out, which
eventually preserves the win for the Rams, and then you
happened last night where they go against a short handed team,
which statistically this season was the biggest upset in the NFL,
(10:28):
even bigger than the Browns beating.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
The Packers a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
According to Vegas, that win last night by San Francisco
was the most improbable victory of the young NFL season.
So you have two wins against bad teams Houston and Tennessee.
You blow a game against Philadelphia, you blow a game
against a short handed San Francisco forty nine ers team,
and you have I guess you would call a good
win against the Colts. But we all know what should
have happened in that game. What our eyes tell us
(10:55):
is you lost that game. They had you dead to Riots,
and you got saved by a couple of flu key plays.
So I ask you again, are we sure that the
Los Angeles Rams, with Matthew Stafford, who's playing really well,
Pookin the cool looks like the best player in football,
Davante Adams having a resurgent season, are we sure they're
actually even any good?
Speaker 3 (11:17):
I'll tell you.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
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Speaker 1 (11:39):
Uh this my hold on DJ Ali Alex, this might
have to make my Uh Saturday making pancakes from my
daughter's playlist right here, it is Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
And well you're making no pancakes. Oh my gosh. Oh
cut the music, Alex. Cut the music. No one's looking,
it's just me and you talking. Cut the music is
Rob here? Want Alex right here? Alex? Keep go ahead, Robie,
I'm texting Alex right now.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
Wife Calvin make his own pancakes or does he have
a staffer do it for him?
Speaker 5 (12:07):
So he probably has a staff for weekdays and on weekends.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
He steps and I was like, let me make you
guys call get this number. You're ready with to get
this number.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
We are not calling your wife.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Because you're not gonna disrespect me right now, okay, in
front of YouTube, in front of everybody.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
No, okay, you ready. He just gave me the Mike
Jones phone number. I did it sounded like that. No,
it's going down. Okay, we're not calling.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Let me text her first because she's not gonna gonna
ignore you. It's going down with that beings because no, no, no, no, no, no,
no no, no disrespect me, Roger. Don't disrespect me and
my pancake back. What you want about my sports days
to crack all the jokes about you know, uh, calling
me an elitist and you know the gated community. But
you're not gonna disrespect is your boy with a spatula. Okay,
(12:58):
when I'm flipping the pancakes, it is looking at the
flicking her wrisks like that. When I'm in there making
my spaghetti, when I'm in there making steaks, when I'm
in there making up whatever fish dishing. Don't disrespect chef
They don't you know who the original chef boy Ard is, right,
Chef boy are Dub? Oh God, Chef boy are dub.
(13:19):
Don't disrespect nobody believes you.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
You need more people. Don't disrespect me like that. Okay.
I might not be this, I might not be that,
but one of the things that I.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
Am there's only one way to prove all this, and
that's for you to bring the food that you cook.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Now, Robbie might have been right on that. And I
say people, not person. He's got people.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
First of all. First of all, Robbie, let's just let's
just go here for a minute. Okay, where do we live?
We live in Los Angeles. Yes, there are a lot
of people who have people as you use like this. Yes,
don't act like I'm exclusive. That is like I'm in
some one thing mad. People got people?
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Matter of fact? Why are you ashamed of me? Mate?
I'm blessed? Matter of fact?
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Matter of fact, you have people? No, I don't who
who just is taking care of work in what you
are doing. But I'm paying them and they're helping me
to do work. Did you find some people it's not
like their full time on staff. I don't have a rebuttal,
yes to that, thank you. Currently I'm working on a rebuttal.
I don't have one. First of all, I'm trying to
(14:22):
act like the common man, but the common very much
the common man.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Okay. And you know what I'm not gonna do. I
learned not to do the years ago. What's that?
Speaker 1 (14:31):
And YouTube beans don't do this either. You don't have
to do the poor Olympics. What's the glad, you asked? Man, No,
you ain't having hard as me. Man, No, no, we
was eating. We was eating just buttering bread every night.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
No, no, no brinding. Man, We don't run from the grind.
Scott offered me a raise to do this show. To that,
I said, nah, hold that, and I'm running from the grind.
See that is where I would be upset.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
With you, because I found myself in many years doing
the poor Olympics with other people like no, I wait,
we ain't even have electricity.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
No, we didn't have something like wait, wait wait, why
are we battling out?
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Who was? Who was?
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Poky?
Speaker 5 (15:08):
I got good news and bad news, all right, what's
the good news? Good news is you said the number
off air, So that's good news. Yes, bad news. She
didn't pick up, Yeah, pick up.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
At some point. I told you I tried.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
I'll text it as I love her professional voicemail by
the way, done.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Listen have you heard dubbs voicemail?
Speaker 5 (15:26):
Is it funny?
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Oh my god, it's not funny.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
It's just like very professional, like he sounds like a
newsman on.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
The really yep, thank you for sounds like a newsman.
What do you think I do with my mornings? Fifty
in the morning for a like two different people.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
And I love I love it about you because if
I call you first time for the meeting pulling the
curtain back, I'll call you.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
I'll get the voicemail. Hi, you've reached Kelvin Washington, Spectrum
News one stop Radio. I'm not available right now, but
leave a phone. Leave your name and number at the beep.
I will call you back as soon as possible. Cheerio.
And then you call him and then he calls you back.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Bruh, rob Gie. Let me tell you. I'm doing what
I'm doing out here in the streets. And it's like
the duality of man.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
You did say that once, you were like, yo, do
you and fry you? The you that I deal with
the I turn on my TV and I see you. No,
just you listen. It's in an articulate you know. Suit
it up, yes, version of myself. You get the you
do have nice suits. By the way, thank you. That's
a nice thing you ever said about it. All right,
get back to these questions. I told her, never mind,
don't answer these fools, she said, Okay, uh.
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That's expresspros dot com. We got a couple Before we
get to this topic. Can I read this YouTube comment
talking about now they're battling and see who's poor on YouTube?
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Sit here, go to Paul I told you don't do
the poor Olympics.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
This is my favorite. This is a clay G on YouTube.
We grew up eating sliced glizzies in a ball with
pork beans and no bread. First of all, I call
that a win me too. How is that poor?
Speaker 3 (17:20):
I had a glizzy in my mouth. I'm gonna one
up you now, who is that? Clay G?
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Clay g true story When my wife would go out
of town for work. And you know how you know
this if you marry Elijah married and when your lady.
Out of times you get that, like, yes, what do
I want to do? What do I want to do?
Speaker 3 (17:36):
That kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
I would ground up some beef for ground turkey and
put it in some pot, some baked beans, some bushes
baked beans that I called it ghetto chili phenomena. It
tastes phenomenal. And I could be a gazillionaire and would
still do that. Some things just hit some sliceduff glazzies
and some and some pork.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
What you was eating good?
Speaker 1 (17:57):
If you ain't ever had to unwrap your ballooney, don't
talk to me. Yeah, that's listen, fry belong he sund
little mustard. Struggle meals were good. Sometimes struggle meal, A
little spaghettios, some bread and that's all you got.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
It tastes fine.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Struggle and nothing. Do you know about the triple decker
peanut butter and jelly?
Speaker 3 (18:14):
No one.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
You put the peanut butter, put the jelly on a slice,
slap that like you normally would, right on the back end,
put the other peanut butter, and then another jelly on
another piece.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Okay, full for three days? All right? That got you?
Speaker 6 (18:30):
All right?
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Where'd you what did you ask? Me, what about as
good as this glazy.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Chili and a triple decker, Peter. No, I'm gonna be
very quick with this. The Rams are good. I'm gonna
tell a couple of reasons why the.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Rams are good.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
The Rams need to be better at closing. But the
Rams are good when you have Matthew Stafford playing at
the level he's playing at right now, uh where he
is actually now having advantage. They played the first game
of this week. So he's leading the league in passing yards, yes,
but he's leading it by a substantial amount that even
if Dak Prescott, who's second, even on the yards per
game's first Yep, there you go, yards per game. You
(19:05):
look at the yards total, you look at the offense,
they're they're second in sacks, they're second in passing, they're
third in offensive leaders. Right now, I mean you're just
looking at a lot of these stats and the Rams
are are playing very, very well. Kyron Williams touchdowns is crazy,
especially since twenty twenty three. He's doing phenomenally with Gibs
(19:25):
Jamiir Gibbs who will probably had like two this week.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
Whatever.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
But the Rams are a good team. Where I question
the Rams, the rams have not at least remind me
if I'm wrong. Under the Sean McVay don't feel like
they've been dominant. I feel like they've always been good,
and I feel like there's that next tier up and
they don't get there.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
They don't get in that.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Yeah, and that's where they're missing that when the Philly
just goes crazy, which could mean as that's what we
don't think of this year, you mess around and look up,
they might go fourteen to three, right exactly, But when
Patrick Mahomes is going crazy, when Philly, when Lamar with
Josh Allen even last year had a really good with
they fifteen and two and fourteen three. So that's the
that's the one thing mcvey's teams end up overachieving, Like
(20:13):
the last couple of years, you're like, oh they're three
and four, three and five. Then they're going to run.
So they end up being good. You just don't know,
And I do wonder why he can't get to that.
Just pure unadulterated dominance, like we're flight out blowing everybody,
Like say what you want about the Lions, they're pointing
differential last year, they're blowing everybody a good teams, bad team,
you're getting his smoke, and now after the first game
they're doing it again. That's one of the things where
(20:35):
I do wonder why Sean McVay team can't just be
flat out, Why can't they just go, you know, fifteen
into fourteen and three, even a thirteen and four. We
just kicked everybody's butt week in week out. That's the
one thing. You're just quick, what do you what's that
missing little thing where they can't be top tier?
Speaker 4 (20:52):
I think part of it is, and we'll try to
be as clearly as possible. Part of it is that
everybody knows the McVeigh system now because it's he. It's
good point permeating throughout the NFL that they just do
not blow teams out the way you think that they should.
When do you consider what kind of talent that they
have and you're like, hey, you look up, You're like, well, well,
I mean they that staffer, they got Adam, they're going
to go.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
They almost got.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
Fourteen points against Houston. Yeah, you know they didn't. They
couldn't really move the ball into the third quarter.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
They had that run where they couldn't score. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
The end of last season, the last month of the year.
They're outing eighteen points a game. Yeah, and it's like
that doesn't make sense to me. Now they're winning. Credit
to them, and winning is an art form. As a radier,
I can tell you that right now. But I just
always feel like there's something that's not quite there, as
you alluded to.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Yeah, all right, well then that's why I say they're good,
but they're not as dominant as you will hope they
could be.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
We got Shawn King on the other side.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
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Speaker 1 (21:48):
It is The Odd Couple, Rob G and for Rob
pe Kelvin Washington on this funky Flashback Friday. And we're
joined now as we always are during the football season.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
I man, we are due with the King.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Sean King, former NFL quarterback, Fox Sports Radio NFL analysts Sean.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
What's up?
Speaker 5 (22:05):
Man?
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Happy for Friday to you? What's up? Sean?
Speaker 6 (22:07):
What's up? Huh? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Well, you know, Robinson, to his credit, he is being
celebrated at his alma mater and he is getting ready
to do that tomorrow. Who'll be in New Haven, Connecticut,
southern Connecticut, and he's gonna honor him with the press box.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
I'm sure you probably gotta invite.
Speaker 6 (22:24):
Of course he shouldn't be the invite their naming the
press spots.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Congratulations if you ever have met him and if he
has your number, you got the invite.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Sean answered this question for me and Rob g here.
Robb g asked me a great question, he said, specifically
this season. He said, I don't know if the Rams
are good, like how good they really are? And I said,
I think they are good. But the more interesting question
for me is why aren't Sean McVay teams dominant? You you
know what I mean, like like if there's been periods
word Josh Allen. Like last year the Bills were dominant,
(22:55):
the Lions last year dominant. The Eagles have had years dominant.
Why are Sean mc teams McVay teams they kind of overachieve.
We're all going to go, oh, they're three and five,
then they go in a five game run or whatever.
Last year they couldn't score more than eighteen points for
a handfl against What is it about it? Even this
year they could be five and oh, but they're not.
Speaker 6 (23:12):
I think you have to give them credit for the
reset they did. People forget Aaron Donnell retired, they moved
on from Jalen Ramsey, Cooper Cups not there. Like a
lot of the core pieces of that initial line the
Super Bowl win are not there.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
That's a fair point.
Speaker 6 (23:29):
The time period they've rebuilt the majority of it, they
deserve a lot of credit. I still think there are
a couple of pieces a way. The alarming thing for
me they're undersized on the back end of their defense.
They could not tackle the forty nine ers. How many
times last night did the forty nine and ball carry
out get yards after initial content? So when I watched
(23:51):
that game, I didn't get caught. I fixed the division game.
Division games are generally always competitive. Yeah, some things happen
that don't normally happen. You miss a field goal, you
get extra point block, Karen Williams fumbles on the goal line. Like,
you take away any of those things and they probably win.
But big picture, they've got to figure out how to
get the ball carrier on the ground. They're very like
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on the back end, a lot of athleticism, but not
a lot of figs, skinny guys, thin frame guys. To me,
that's gonna be the Achilles heel as this season continues well.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
Sticking with that game to the other side, though, for
forty nine Ers, Matt Jones, who he might be starting
a quarterback controversy, currently leads the NFL in passing yards
per game's top ten and passerating top ten and QBR
top ten and touchdown interception ratio. What are your thoughts
on what mac Jones is doing right now, especially with
the show handed Niners offense.
Speaker 6 (24:43):
It magnifies the mistake that John Lynch and Kyle Shannon
had enough forty nine Ers made a couple years ago.
They had a chance to sit tight and draft mac Jones,
and they would have had two extra first round picks
over the last two years. Who knows what those would
have turned into. For some reason, they didn't take the guy.
It was a perfect fit coming out of Alabama. Thing
about mac Jones with Devontae Smith and those guys and
(25:05):
Steve starkeysan he fits the call Shanahan to some perfect
Why they would give up all the asset capital they
did to move up and take a raw talent like
Trey Lance still baffles me, but I think this just
magnifies that mistake.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
I an't think that's a good point, Rob g and
I had a whole conversation about it. That's a very
goo point. That's that's a very very good point, Sean King.
Our guests here on the Eye Couple, Rob g and
for Rope and Kelvin Washington on a fucking flashback Friday.
I want to stick with one more thing from that game.
Were you you down with the call? Did you like
the call going for forth with Kyrie Williams fourth down rams,
(25:40):
trying to go ahead and get that in the ultimately
trying to win that game? Where you did you like
the call? Would you like to see something different? Would
you rather than kick the field goal?
Speaker 6 (25:48):
The play in and of itself wasn't a bad call.
The way he presented the play was terrible. It was
a situation where San Francisco had eight men in the
box and he ran the ball with Jordan Whittingham and
and Puka Nakula as the primary blockers. That's why the
play didn't work. If you don't why in that play,
I think you got it being your big personnel three
(26:08):
Tidi end big body guys, Guys that can actually change
the line of scrimmage and you got a better chance.
I think that they would tell you it's not the
play call, it was the presentation of the play. Like
true receivers trying to block the d N in the linebackers,
it's generally not gonna work.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Yeah, that's an understatement.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
The other big story this week, well there's two, really,
but one of I want to talk about Shador Sanders.
You know, the whole fiasco going on in Cleveland where
they benched Joe Flacco and yet Schadure stays as the
number three quarterback there in Cleveland. Number one, your thoughts
on him not being elevated to number two? And secondly,
it was reported earlier today by The Athletic that one
(26:46):
of the reasons why he's not being elevated to the
depth chart is that when Cleveland drafted him, they only
ever viewed him as a developmental prospect and never was
seriously in their long term plans at quarterback.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
What are your thoughts on that situation?
Speaker 6 (27:00):
Think you'd have to be inside the meetings to have
the actual factual truth. The thing that popped into my
mind was one Dylan Gabel deserves the full support of
everybody with this opportunity and having Shador at the backup.
If Dylan plays bad, then automatically, what does the tenor
and tone become. Let's go to Shador also. And I'm
(27:22):
not sure exactly, but a lot of teams don't keep
the third quarterback on the active roster for game day,
and if the third quarterback plays, none of the other
quarterbacks can go into the game. So I looked at it,
say Dylan has to come out for a play for
equipment or something if the third stringer goes in and
(27:43):
none of the other two could play. So that's how
I was looking at it. And I will know for
sure if I'm right or wrong. If at some point
Chador starts and Fly goes the backup and Dealing is
a third, then the way I looked at it makes sense.
If not, it kind of is what it is. Guys,
Like here, here's the thing with this whole thing. Sir
Door chose to approach the draft process in the way
(28:04):
he wanted. It didn't work. You alienated different teams. We
told the Ravens not the draft. You say the Ravens
takes your doing the third or fourth round like they
wanted to. He's starting Sunday the Baltimore Ravens. So he
made choices. Now you got to live with those choices.
You can't play the victim out of It's gonna play
out how it play out. When he gets his opportunity.
(28:26):
If it gets it, you gotta be ready to go.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Yeah, were's obviously. I just have a feeling that he's
not gonna go anywhere too. And we kind of knew
going into the season this will be one of the
bigger storylines even and.
Speaker 6 (28:36):
Let me say, let me get it before we leave this,
because I know there are a lot of coaches that
listen to this, a lot of young quarterbacks. When you
take the line and Shador has taken you don't ever
get to play victim, and you don't ever get to
make an excuse if you perform bad. If you take
the humble approach. The team is bigger than I approach
(28:59):
to be Cam war Kim Warner didn't played great yet,
but nobody's attacking Kim Woard because they look at him
as a good guy. We're gonna give him time, We're
gonna give him grace. And so that's what I think
Shad is finding out. He's finding the other side of
being flamboyant foragadocious, and you can choose to do whatever
you want to do. I'm just saying you got to
(29:20):
live with the outcomes of that short And you.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Know what, dagga, Sean, I thought I was gonna move on,
but I blame you. So let me add to that.
I look at what his response from his father was,
and he said, he laughed, I know, did you see
it at all?
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Sean?
Speaker 1 (29:33):
He said, haha, I you know, he said, good one, son.
And one of the things that I think the difference
is he's not you, Dion. You could come to the
draft iced out, golded out, that era, gold everywhere, Jerry Curl,
dripping looking good because you were put third or fourth pick.
You were that guy. You were that guy once you
got to league. And I think the difference so you
(29:55):
can do certain things. You were so much that guy
you played in MLB and World Series, right Like, he's
not that, And there is a different approach that has
to be taken at times. You have to humble plat
go ahead.
Speaker 6 (30:08):
I love Dion Sanders. I want them to succeed at Colorado.
I think he's a great marketer. I think he's probably
one of the best personal brand ambassadors we've ever seen
as professional athlete. He knows absolutely nothing about quarterback. And
that's why I think the disconnect is Dion played a position.
I played quarterback to the Bucks versus Dion. I could
(30:30):
take Dion completely out of the game by saying, I'm
not going to throw the ball there. So when you
play a position where you can be eliminated and you
can't control it, you have to go above and beyond
personality wise in order to create a brand, in order
to be well known, or no matter how good you are,
end up being Daryl Green. None wrong being Daryl Green.
But he's not gonna get the marketing opportunities beon does.
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He's not flamboyant like Dion. The thing that I would
tell Stu, you play quarterback to get outside opportunity, that
that position. You touch the ball so much, here in
the spotlight so much. All you have to do is
be good. You'll need the extras.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
That's real.
Speaker 6 (31:07):
Yeah, And that's that's why I think that this connected.
Dion knows how to do it his way, but his son,
the only one of the sons that ended up really
having proability. Happens to play quarterback, and Prime wants him
to be Prime junior. But he plays a position where
people don't really don't really accept that kind of braggadocious
(31:30):
energy at that position, especially for somebody that's unproven.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
That's the key part to manage that unproven.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
Ye all, shall we get to get here on this one?
We got a coup about a mill and a half left.
Lamar Jackson's out this week with the hamshring injury. There's
a report now he's going to be out through the
bye week with Baltimore at one in three?
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Number one, do you think.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
That's the wise move to resting through the bike? Can
they even afford to do it? And number two, what's
wrong with the Ravens? I know you got a minute, but.
Speaker 6 (31:55):
Quickly, For one, I don't think they're resting Lamar. You
can say what you want about Lamar. The one thing
he's never shown us is that if he's capable of playing,
he doesn't play like I know they had the one
contract dispute at the end of the year where he
didn't go to the playoff game whatever, But over the
course of his career he's been available. So I will
presume that he's not capable of performing Sunday. Having said that,
(32:18):
the Ravens got complacent. They stopped paying attention to detail.
They stopped prioritizing the fundamentals, and that's what's gotten them beat.
Protecting the football, making tackles in space, having the right
pad level, attacking the right hip, fundamentally sound on my throws,
you know, seeing the ball in on my catcher. They
got away from the fundamentals and having attention to detail,
(32:40):
and now they're losing close games that they would normally win.
Can they fix it? Yes? Is it going to be hard,
absolutely because of the injuries here.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
And Sean King, Appreciate you man as always. We'll do
it again next week and Jegia weekend.
Speaker 6 (32:51):
Hey, last thing before I go Florida State is beating Miami.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Ooh, there you have it.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
You got it from him and putting some money down,
So I'll say, put some money on that bank on
that Sean. We'll talk about it next week as well.
Appreciate you as always, man. All Right, the Padres, they
have the right to be upset and they're saying maybe
it is time to bring something to the game.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
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Speaker 2 (33:17):
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Speaker 3 (33:35):
Thank you for hanging with us. Appreciate it as.
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(33:59):
you gotta make sense why you lost, right, especially when
it's a little bit controversial, and that's what the padres
are doing a little bit actually calling for something that
Rob Parker and I had a conversation about about a
week or so.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
Yeah, it's a lot of bit controversial because you guys
were watching it during the show yesterday and then Monci,
you guys had a quit two minute conversation about it.
In the ninth enning of that Padres game, in a
full count, Xander Boguards gets a pitch that's low and outside,
not by a lot, but obviously baseball. Watching on the
screen that you could tell it was a ball home played,
(34:30):
umpire calls it a strike.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
There's the first out of the inning.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
The picture then walks the next two guys gets them
on base. Now, ultimately it's all for not because they
don't score anyways, But if that ball had been called
a ball, the Padres theoretically could add basis loaded no
outs in the game. They trailed by two runs. So
after the game you had several Padres players on camera
(34:56):
basically charging at the home paid umpire race he's going
to the clubhouse how to get held back? And then
Boguards tells the media after the game that he basically
saying it was a bad call and quote thank god
for ABS next year because this is terrible. I mean,
easy question is this me? Is this maybe not for you?
But does this change your mind now about the ABS system? Well,
(35:18):
even that we saw what should have happened last night,
so I was in favor when you're probably the wrong
person asked that question.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Well, no, but I'll tell you, but it cemented something
of one of the reasons why I said it. I
love the human element in sports, right, referees, umpires, depending
on the sport, whatever it is, chair umps and tennis,
it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
I love all that stuff. I think tennis does have
a great job.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
You get a challenge, we have to see hit the line, Okay,
cool is out whatever, get a couple of game, whatever
it is, and yet most of the time it's just
an ump a referee calling out. The reason I love
the human element is because that's how we all grew up. Right,
You grew up playing whatever your favorite sport was. There's
an honor when you go play pick up basketball, right,
call your own all your own files or if you
guys stepped out then if not, we'll shoot for it.
(36:00):
It just just just how we all did it. Everything
wasn't perfect, it wasn't exactly It was part of the game.
You had to suck it up, you had to go
play and just move on. So I still want the
human element. The reason why I was in favor of
this and again let's just give it a shot, is
because technology has gotten so good that we see it
anyway exactly like they've gotten to the incremental, like they
zoom in and find show you the exact data. It's like,
(36:22):
if you keep showing me that was clearly a ball
or that was clearly a strike, or that he wasn't
hit or whatever it is, then to me, you might
as well have that at least have that option for
them the challenge a few times a game. Only the catcher,
the pitcher and the hitter I believe it is that
can challenge it.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
I liked.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
I like giving that a shot, because again, you can't
show me how egregious it is or how bad an
ump is having a night, and I keep seeing there's
amazing four K technology.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Where are you on this?
Speaker 4 (36:50):
No, I agree with you, And this is something that
Rob and I have argued about off the air, you know,
for years now, because this is this is not a
new development, right. The idea of robot MS and the
ABA system has been around forever. And one of the
things I've consistently told him is once you allowed instant
replay into the sport, which they do, like if a
guy is out on first base, they.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
Can review see it every game.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
When you see like yesterday game there was a pitch
where it hit the ground first and then it hit
the battery, So is that count as it hit battering?
And you know, like that's you can review that. So
once you allow those kind of reviews, why then can't
we review something like this because.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
Rob g it's gonna check forever. They're gonna review everything.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
I mean that that would be the counter if somebody
was saying, because we're gonna review everything, I just think
everything you just said. But adding dude, I mean, they
like zoom in, they have the grid like it's just
insane how much we're able to see. And to me,
what's the point of showing me all this just to go, boy,
you got that wrong, missed that. Bolguards has every right
(37:51):
to be hot about that one, right, and and nobody's
saying every single one can be challenged. But if you
give I like that, and that adds to me, can
add a little drama to the game, right batter, step
by yo, whatever it'll be, waving a hand or tapping ahead,
whatever it'll be, add a little drama. So I'm in
favor of it giving a shot because the worst thing happen.
You know what, The NFL does a great job of
this change it. Oops are bad NFL is like kickoff returns.
(38:14):
They're dangerous changing. Wait now, bring him back, Bring him back,
I don't care about safety. No more running back, and
then knock his head off.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
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That's right, it is The Odd Couple on a Funky
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Hopefully you're having a good one as we have now
gotten to the weekend. A lot in store this hour
we have We'll be down with Sean King. It's right
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NFL analysts. And then also next hour we're gonna have
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you want to know some of the odds and have
some fun over the weekend as well. So a lot
to get you on this funky Flashback Friday. One of
the things I wanted to talk about was we were
just hinting on a little bit the last break there
was just a great game that ended up being Thursday
(01:08):
night football. And you know, Thursday night it's a crapshoot.
Thursday night football. You don't know what you're gonna get.
It's gonna be a good one. Like last night, it
could be absolutely a toilet bowl, as I call them,
but we ended up getting a good one between two
rivals and the forty nine ers and the Rams. But
ultimately it came down to a couple of things and
in really good game that ends the game, that goes
into overtime, and one of the plays that everybody's gonna
(01:29):
talk about, of course, is that fourth down run by
Kyron Williams that Sean McVay decides to go for.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
There.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Now, what made an interesting rob ge is like they
were lined up like they're going for it, held on
for a second, forty nine Ers called the timeout, Rams
come back out.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
I think they might even call it time.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
And finally you get to the play and they run
a pretty much essentially a quick handoff to Kyron Williams,
who's probably what five nine two hundred pounds behind two
wide receives, two wide receivers up the gut, and you're
just kind of like it was. Okay, it was a
terrible play card. Let me let me dissect a few
things here. Let me get this scalt pol real quick
(02:07):
number one. The reason why is the terrible play is
because you probably have the best receiver in the NFL,
since Debo isn't quiet what he used to be of.
Just if I give you the ball, you're getting three yards.
I mean if I just literally hype, well, I don't care,
You're gonna fall forward for two to three yards. AJ
Brown could be in that comparison as well. He just
doesn't get the ball enough. He's a polar opposite of Pooker,
Whomember for the Poop gets all the time. AJ Brown
(02:28):
poo could give me some of the receptions, I don't
get none. I don't want him as my quarterback. I
don't want him as my quarterback. Pook And the cool
gets all the receptions. You know what, Also, Pooka has
you seeing you saw it last night. They do little
rub routes. Davante Adams kind of does little things that
get get him. Just get him open a little bit
because he's gonna catch the ball for four or five yards,
then get another five or six because he's like that,
(02:49):
and so the idea that you wouldn't run a play
for your best offensive weapon or your other one, and
DeVante was just huge in general. Just give him, let
him just fall for a yard, and that you would
run it with the running back that's not built like that.
You're not giving it to Derrick Henry. You're not giving
it to you know, Jerome Bette, some other guys from
back in the day, beast mode where you know they're
gonna get this yard. And you didn't run behind as
(03:10):
you mentioned, the big lineup. You didn't have the bigs
out there. So that was just a bad play and
there's no way through timeouts. That's what you come up
with unless as Sean mcvayh talked about, he said, essentially
it was a bad call on me. He was mad
about going for it. He said he got his ego
got in the way, and I do believe that matter.
I think he looked across the field. I think he
(03:32):
saw his counterpart in Kyle Sayd and you know, two
of the smarter young guys in the NFL the last
handful of years. I think he got too caught up
in that. I think he got caught in the fact
that why are we even why are we even having
to try.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
To win this game and not blowing them out.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
They have no receivers, they have nobody out there, they
got a backup quarterback. How are we even a position
to even potentially lose this game? I think that weighed
in as well, and I think he just made a
bad decision. And when I was watching that, this is
one of the things that I have to give credit
to and it drives me crazy. Let me preface sometimes
as a fan of said person and said team, Dan Campbell,
(04:09):
Dan Gamble, Dan Campbell and the Lions, because one of
the things they've gone for fourth downs at a higher
rate than just about anybody.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
We all know they're gonna do.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
It is that because that's who we are, meaning the team.
They're built like it, and they all know this is
what we do. You've heard to talk about it for
the last few years. They're like, this is what we do,
we practice it, we want to do it. We actually
will be mad if we didn't do it. And to
a fault, it did bite them in the NFC Championship
game against the forty nine ers as well, but they're
prepared for that. And Sean McVay, who is one of
(04:41):
the more conservative quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Coaches when it comes to going for things on fourth down,
doesn't really do it often. As far as the league
is kind of trajectory going up, they don't do it
as much. I think that's the difference when you're not
prepared for it. The Lions do this. They'll go for two,
they'll go for fourth down, they'll go for fourth down
and fourth you know, everybody, Okay, we'll go for fourth
and one. They'll go for fourth and six if they
want to. And their Bill Ford, they've trained for it mentally,
(05:06):
they're prepared and it seems like they always dropped the
right play. And you can see Sean McVay got out
of his skis got he got into his ego bag.
I want to show that I'm the brainiac. I want
to show it's not Kyle. I want to show that
we're gonna be big and we're gonna do this and
we're gonna win the game. And he got a little
you know, and the rams right now this season there's
been some struggle with that.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
I am not This isn't a hymn thing.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
This is maybe a special teams coach How are you
getting kicks blocked regularly?
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Now? Why are you missing kicks regularly? Now?
Speaker 1 (05:34):
And Sean mcvay's an incredible coach, but right now, they've
been a couple of games where they're probably you know,
they wake up today like how are we not five?
Speaker 3 (05:41):
And oh? How are we not five?
Speaker 1 (05:44):
And oh we make a field goal against them, them
being the Eagles, we get this four down, we score.
You know, if I don't overthink it, I have the
best player at the balls, who Matthew Stafford. Let him
throw on his those side passes to Puoka. Now it's
sitting here five and oh, but instead they're three and two.
And I mentioned it to Is yesterday when Rob was here,
said they got to win this game because now forty
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nine ers or four and one Seahawks will have their
game with a chance to be four and one. And
you just don't want to keep falling down the vision
thinking all will bounce back, because you just don't know.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
And there's other teams.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Right we look at the NFC North, looks like the
Lions could win the division or at least be right
there with the Packers.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
There's others. You just don't know how things work.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Out where you look at yourself and you're like, how
the heck do how the heck do we not make
the postseason this year? But that was an example of
me of just not being overly prepared for those types
of things when you look at the counterpart of an
example like a Dan Gamble, Dan Campbell, where they're you
cannot want us to do it, but we're going to
and this is what we do and we're ready to
execute it because this is who we are, because this
(06:41):
is exactly who we are.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
No, I agree with you, and I'm not going to
say I won't go so far as say that Sean McVay,
you know, is shook when it comes to Kyle Shanahan,
but he definitely doesn't act like himself when he's coaching
against Kyle Shanahan. And maybe it's because he had that
eleven and six of regular season record head to head
and the one win again shout out to Rob Parker
(07:03):
that he has in the posty. They faced off once
in the playoffs NC Championship game. If Jakwoski tard catches
an interception that hits him in the chest, then he's
owned one in the playoffs too.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Boy, If he got a penny for every time y'all
memory Bonaire, right, So someone's got to I'm glad it
could be the Ode couple. But Sean McVay, who is
a great coach, He is gonna be in the Hall
of Fame. He has his own tree, like we're half
the league, the guys who either worked with Sean McVay
or knew Sean McVay at a certain point in time
(07:33):
so they got hired as a job in the NFL.
He is a phenomenal coach, but there is something about
when he goes against Kyle Shannon, and maybe it's because
McVeigh technically is part of Kyle Shanahan street. If you
want to play that game where he always feels like it's.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
To your point. I gotta I gotta one up this
guy like he we both know what we want to do,
we both know each other inside and out. So I'm
gonna zig when I normally didn't because he expected me
to zag. So I kind of got it overthinking over
smart my own self to beat this guy. And that's
a problem because you're gonna face him twice a year normally.
(08:11):
When these teams are healthy, they're gonna be really good,
and there's a good chance he might face shut there
in the postseason. So if you can't allow yourself in
a game like last night where Matthew staffords though for
three eighty nine, three touchdowns, no picks. To your point,
you have the best player on the field in Buka Dakua, who,
aside from being the best wide receiver this season, he's
(08:33):
arguably been the best player like this side of Lamar Jackson.
Just gonna snap by snap basis. He's been that good.
And your decision is after a timeout to run a
running half back dive behind two wide receivers with the
small back the small running back. It's like the obvious
answer is too obvious. I can't do that because Kyle's
(08:55):
expecting me to be obvious. So I gotta I gotta
really out smart him here by call something like this.
And that's a problem. But to your final point, this
might be my bigger takeaway from last night's game is
I don't know if the Rams are good like And
this hurts me to say, because my dad, rest in peace,
is a diehard Rams fan.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
You know, even in heavit he's a Rams fan. I'm
sure at you right now, I'm I'm sure he would
have called me, like, man, did you see that game
last night?
Speaker 3 (09:23):
With that were they're like, you know, but.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
They beat Houston, who we know now is not any good.
It was fourteen nine. It was a struggle in that game.
They struggled for three quarters against Tennessee who was winless
at h to four. Those are teams are combined one
and seven. The only reason Houston even has a win
is because they faced Tennessee last week, so one of
them had to win, right ye. Philadelphia spotted them an
entire half of football where they didn't show up and
(09:49):
still found a way to win that game last weeks Indianapolis,
which is a good win for them because Indianapolis is
much better people think. If you watch that game and
you're not just looking at the box score. Ady Mitchell
has a long touchdown where he drops the ball going
to the end zone.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
That's okay, Why people can't just wait?
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Why do they got to DeShawn Jackson it every time?
But that happens, And on what should have been the
game winning touchdown run by Jonathan Taylor, Ady Mitchell again
has a phantom holding call which wipes it out, which
eventually preserves the win for the Rams, and then you
happened last night where they go against a short handed team,
which statistically this season was the biggest upset in the NFL,
(10:28):
even bigger than the Browns beating.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
The Packers a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
According to Vegas, that win last night by San Francisco
was the most improbable victory of the young NFL season.
So you have two wins against bad teams Houston and Tennessee.
You blow a game against Philadelphia, you blow a game
against a short handed San Francisco forty nine ers team,
and you have I guess you would call a good
win against the Colts. But we all know what should
have happened in that game. What our eyes tell us
(10:55):
is you lost that game. They had you dead to Riots,
and you got saved by a couple of flu key plays.
So I ask you again, are we sure that the
Los Angeles Rams, with Matthew Stafford, who's playing really well,
Pookin the cool looks like the best player in football,
Davante Adams having a resurgent season, are we sure they're
actually even any good?
Speaker 3 (11:17):
I'll tell you.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
On the other side, it's the Oco Robzi and for
Rob Parker on a FU Friday Stick with you boys.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
It is the OCABA Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple
with Rob Parker and kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm
Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the
iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Uh this my hold on DJ Ali Alex, this might
have to make my Uh Saturday making pancakes from my
daughter's playlist right here, it is Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
And well you're making no pancakes. Oh my gosh. Oh
cut the music, Alex. Cut the music. No one's looking,
it's just me and you talking. Cut the music is
Rob here? Want Alex right here? Alex? Keep go ahead, Robie,
I'm texting Alex right now.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
Wife Calvin make his own pancakes or does he have
a staffer do it for him?
Speaker 5 (12:07):
So he probably has a staff for weekdays and on weekends.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
He steps and I was like, let me make you
guys call get this number. You're ready with to get
this number.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
We are not calling your wife.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Because you're not gonna disrespect me right now, okay, in
front of YouTube, in front of everybody.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
No, okay, you ready. He just gave me the Mike
Jones phone number. I did it sounded like that. No,
it's going down. Okay, we're not calling.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Let me text her first because she's not gonna gonna
ignore you. It's going down with that beings because no, no, no, no, no, no,
no no, no disrespect me, Roger. Don't disrespect me and
my pancake back. What you want about my sports days
to crack all the jokes about you know, uh, calling
me an elitist and you know the gated community. But
you're not gonna disrespect is your boy with a spatula. Okay,
(12:58):
when I'm flipping the pancakes, it is looking at the
flicking her wrisks like that. When I'm in there making
my spaghetti, when I'm in there making steaks, when I'm
in there making up whatever fish dishing. Don't disrespect chef
They don't you know who the original chef boy Ard is, right,
Chef boy are Dub? Oh God, Chef boy are dub.
(13:19):
Don't disrespect nobody believes you.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
You need more people. Don't disrespect me like that. Okay.
I might not be this, I might not be that,
but one of the things that I.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
Am there's only one way to prove all this, and
that's for you to bring the food that you cook.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Now, Robbie might have been right on that. And I
say people, not person. He's got people.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
First of all. First of all, Robbie, let's just let's
just go here for a minute. Okay, where do we live?
We live in Los Angeles. Yes, there are a lot
of people who have people as you use like this. Yes,
don't act like I'm exclusive. That is like I'm in
some one thing mad. People got people?
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Matter of fact? Why are you ashamed of me? Mate?
I'm blessed? Matter of fact?
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Matter of fact, you have people? No, I don't who
who just is taking care of work in what you
are doing. But I'm paying them and they're helping me
to do work. Did you find some people it's not
like their full time on staff. I don't have a rebuttal,
yes to that, thank you. Currently I'm working on a rebuttal.
I don't have one. First of all, I'm trying to
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act like the common man, but the common very much
the common man.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Okay. And you know what I'm not gonna do. I
learned not to do the years ago. What's that?
Speaker 1 (14:31):
And YouTube beans don't do this either. You don't have
to do the poor Olympics. What's the glad, you asked? Man, No,
you ain't having hard as me. Man, No, no, we
was eating. We was eating just buttering bread every night.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
No, no, no brinding. Man, We don't run from the grind.
Scott offered me a raise to do this show. To that,
I said, nah, hold that, and I'm running from the grind.
See that is where I would be upset.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
With you, because I found myself in many years doing
the poor Olympics with other people like no, I wait,
we ain't even have electricity.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
No, we didn't have something like wait, wait wait, why
are we battling out?
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Who was? Who was?
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Poky?
Speaker 5 (15:08):
I got good news and bad news, all right, what's
the good news? Good news is you said the number
off air, So that's good news. Yes, bad news. She
didn't pick up, Yeah, pick up.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
At some point. I told you I tried.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
I'll text it as I love her professional voicemail by
the way, done.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Listen have you heard dubbs voicemail?
Speaker 5 (15:26):
Is it funny?
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Oh my god, it's not funny.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
It's just like very professional, like he sounds like a
newsman on.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
The really yep, thank you for sounds like a newsman.
What do you think I do with my mornings? Fifty
in the morning for a like two different people.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
And I love I love it about you because if
I call you first time for the meeting pulling the
curtain back, I'll call you.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
I'll get the voicemail. Hi, you've reached Kelvin Washington, Spectrum
News one stop Radio. I'm not available right now, but
leave a phone. Leave your name and number at the beep.
I will call you back as soon as possible. Cheerio.
And then you call him and then he calls you back.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Bruh, rob Gie. Let me tell you. I'm doing what
I'm doing out here in the streets. And it's like
the duality of man.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
You did say that once, you were like, yo, do
you and fry you? The you that I deal with
the I turn on my TV and I see you. No,
just you listen. It's in an articulate you know. Suit
it up, yes, version of myself. You get the you
do have nice suits. By the way, thank you. That's
a nice thing you ever said about it. All right,
get back to these questions. I told her, never mind,
don't answer these fools, she said, Okay, uh.
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Okay, that's all I did. Find a location near you.
That's expresspros dot com. We got a couple Before we
get to this topic. Can I read this YouTube comment
talking about now they're battling and see who's poor on YouTube?
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Sit here, go to Paul I told you don't do
the poor Olympics.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
This is my favorite. This is a clay G on YouTube.
We grew up eating sliced glizzies in a ball with
pork beans and no bread. First of all, I call
that a win me too. How is that poor?
Speaker 3 (17:20):
I had a glizzy in my mouth. I'm gonna one
up you now, who is that? Clay G?
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Clay g true story When my wife would go out
of town for work. And you know how you know
this if you marry Elijah married and when your lady.
Out of times you get that, like, yes, what do
I want to do? What do I want to do?
Speaker 3 (17:36):
That kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
I would ground up some beef for ground turkey and
put it in some pot, some baked beans, some bushes
baked beans that I called it ghetto chili phenomena. It
tastes phenomenal. And I could be a gazillionaire and would
still do that. Some things just hit some sliceduff glazzies
and some and some pork.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
What you was eating good?
Speaker 1 (17:57):
If you ain't ever had to unwrap your ballooney, don't
talk to me. Yeah, that's listen, fry belong he sund
little mustard. Struggle meals were good. Sometimes struggle meal, A
little spaghettios, some bread and that's all you got.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
It tastes fine.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Struggle and nothing. Do you know about the triple decker
peanut butter and jelly?
Speaker 3 (18:14):
No one.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
You put the peanut butter, put the jelly on a slice,
slap that like you normally would, right on the back end,
put the other peanut butter, and then another jelly on
another piece.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Okay, full for three days? All right? That got you?
Speaker 6 (18:30):
All right?
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Where'd you what did you ask? Me, what about as
good as this glazy.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Chili and a triple decker, Peter. No, I'm gonna be
very quick with this. The Rams are good. I'm gonna
tell a couple of reasons why the.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Rams are good.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
The Rams need to be better at closing. But the
Rams are good when you have Matthew Stafford playing at
the level he's playing at right now, uh where he
is actually now having advantage. They played the first game
of this week. So he's leading the league in passing yards, yes,
but he's leading it by a substantial amount that even
if Dak Prescott, who's second, even on the yards per
game's first Yep, there you go, yards per game. You
(19:05):
look at the yards total, you look at the offense,
they're they're second in sacks, they're second in passing, they're
third in offensive leaders. Right now, I mean you're just
looking at a lot of these stats and the Rams
are are playing very, very well. Kyron Williams touchdowns is crazy,
especially since twenty twenty three. He's doing phenomenally with Gibs
(19:25):
Jamiir Gibbs who will probably had like two this week.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
Whatever.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
But the Rams are a good team. Where I question
the Rams, the rams have not at least remind me
if I'm wrong. Under the Sean McVay don't feel like
they've been dominant. I feel like they've always been good,
and I feel like there's that next tier up and
they don't get there.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
They don't get in that.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Yeah, and that's where they're missing that when the Philly
just goes crazy, which could mean as that's what we
don't think of this year, you mess around and look up,
they might go fourteen to three, right exactly, But when
Patrick Mahomes is going crazy, when Philly, when Lamar with
Josh Allen even last year had a really good with
they fifteen and two and fourteen three. So that's the
that's the one thing mcvey's teams end up overachieving, Like
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the last couple of years, you're like, oh they're three
and four, three and five. Then they're going to run.
So they end up being good. You just don't know,
And I do wonder why he can't get to that.
Just pure unadulterated dominance, like we're flight out blowing everybody,
Like say what you want about the Lions, they're pointing
differential last year, they're blowing everybody a good teams, bad team,
you're getting his smoke, and now after the first game
they're doing it again. That's one of the things where
(20:35):
I do wonder why Sean McVay team can't just be
flat out, Why can't they just go, you know, fifteen
into fourteen and three, even a thirteen and four. We
just kicked everybody's butt week in week out. That's the
one thing. You're just quick, what do you what's that
missing little thing where they can't be top tier?
Speaker 4 (20:52):
I think part of it is, and we'll try to
be as clearly as possible. Part of it is that
everybody knows the McVeigh system now because it's he. It's
good point permeating throughout the NFL that they just do
not blow teams out the way you think that they should.
When do you consider what kind of talent that they
have and you're like, hey, you look up, You're like, well, well,
I mean they that staffer, they got Adam, they're going
to go.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
They almost got.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
Fourteen points against Houston. Yeah, you know they didn't. They
couldn't really move the ball into the third quarter.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
They had that run where they couldn't score. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
The end of last season, the last month of the year.
They're outing eighteen points a game. Yeah, and it's like
that doesn't make sense to me. Now they're winning. Credit
to them, and winning is an art form. As a radier,
I can tell you that right now. But I just
always feel like there's something that's not quite there, as
you alluded to.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Yeah, all right, well then that's why I say they're good,
but they're not as dominant as you will hope they
could be.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
We got Shawn King on the other side.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple
with Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm
Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the
iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
It is The Odd Couple, Rob G and for Rob
pe Kelvin Washington on this funky Flashback Friday. And we're
joined now as we always are during the football season.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
I man, we are due with the King.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Sean King, former NFL quarterback, Fox Sports Radio NFL analysts Sean.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
What's up?
Speaker 5 (22:05):
Man?
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Happy for Friday to you? What's up? Sean?
Speaker 6 (22:07):
What's up? Huh? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Well, you know, Robinson, to his credit, he is being
celebrated at his alma mater and he is getting ready
to do that tomorrow. Who'll be in New Haven, Connecticut,
southern Connecticut, and he's gonna honor him with the press box.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
I'm sure you probably gotta invite.
Speaker 6 (22:24):
Of course he shouldn't be the invite their naming the
press spots.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Congratulations if you ever have met him and if he
has your number, you got the invite.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Sean answered this question for me and Rob g here.
Robb g asked me a great question, he said, specifically
this season. He said, I don't know if the Rams
are good, like how good they really are? And I said,
I think they are good. But the more interesting question
for me is why aren't Sean McVay teams dominant? You you
know what I mean, like like if there's been periods
word Josh Allen. Like last year the Bills were dominant,
(22:55):
the Lions last year dominant. The Eagles have had years dominant.
Why are Sean mc teams McVay teams they kind of overachieve.
We're all going to go, oh, they're three and five,
then they go in a five game run or whatever.
Last year they couldn't score more than eighteen points for
a handfl against What is it about it? Even this
year they could be five and oh, but they're not.
Speaker 6 (23:12):
I think you have to give them credit for the
reset they did. People forget Aaron Donnell retired, they moved
on from Jalen Ramsey, Cooper Cups not there. Like a
lot of the core pieces of that initial line the
Super Bowl win are not there.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
That's a fair point.
Speaker 6 (23:29):
The time period they've rebuilt the majority of it, they
deserve a lot of credit. I still think there are
a couple of pieces a way. The alarming thing for
me they're undersized on the back end of their defense.
They could not tackle the forty nine ers. How many
times last night did the forty nine and ball carry
out get yards after initial content? So when I watched
(23:51):
that game, I didn't get caught. I fixed the division game.
Division games are generally always competitive. Yeah, some things happen
that don't normally happen. You miss a field goal, you
get extra point block, Karen Williams fumbles on the goal line. Like,
you take away any of those things and they probably win.
But big picture, they've got to figure out how to
get the ball carrier on the ground. They're very like
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on the back end, a lot of athleticism, but not
a lot of figs, skinny guys, thin frame guys. To me,
that's gonna be the Achilles heel as this season continues well.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
Sticking with that game to the other side, though, for
forty nine Ers, Matt Jones, who he might be starting
a quarterback controversy, currently leads the NFL in passing yards
per game's top ten and passerating top ten and QBR
top ten and touchdown interception ratio. What are your thoughts
on what mac Jones is doing right now, especially with
the show handed Niners offense.
Speaker 6 (24:43):
It magnifies the mistake that John Lynch and Kyle Shannon
had enough forty nine Ers made a couple years ago.
They had a chance to sit tight and draft mac Jones,
and they would have had two extra first round picks
over the last two years. Who knows what those would
have turned into. For some reason, they didn't take the guy.
It was a perfect fit coming out of Alabama. Thing
about mac Jones with Devontae Smith and those guys and
(25:05):
Steve starkeysan he fits the call Shanahan to some perfect
Why they would give up all the asset capital they
did to move up and take a raw talent like
Trey Lance still baffles me, but I think this just
magnifies that mistake.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
I an't think that's a good point, Rob g and
I had a whole conversation about it. That's a very
goo point. That's that's a very very good point, Sean King.
Our guests here on the Eye Couple, Rob g and
for Rope and Kelvin Washington on a fucking flashback Friday.
I want to stick with one more thing from that game.
Were you you down with the call? Did you like
the call going for forth with Kyrie Williams fourth down rams,
(25:40):
trying to go ahead and get that in the ultimately
trying to win that game? Where you did you like
the call? Would you like to see something different? Would
you rather than kick the field goal?
Speaker 6 (25:48):
The play in and of itself wasn't a bad call.
The way he presented the play was terrible. It was
a situation where San Francisco had eight men in the
box and he ran the ball with Jordan Whittingham and
and Puka Nakula as the primary blockers. That's why the
play didn't work. If you don't why in that play,
I think you got it being your big personnel three
(26:08):
Tidi end big body guys, Guys that can actually change
the line of scrimmage and you got a better chance.
I think that they would tell you it's not the
play call, it was the presentation of the play. Like
true receivers trying to block the d N in the linebackers,
it's generally not gonna work.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Yeah, that's an understatement.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
The other big story this week, well there's two, really,
but one of I want to talk about Shador Sanders.
You know, the whole fiasco going on in Cleveland where
they benched Joe Flacco and yet Schadure stays as the
number three quarterback there in Cleveland. Number one, your thoughts
on him not being elevated to number two? And secondly,
it was reported earlier today by The Athletic that one
(26:46):
of the reasons why he's not being elevated to the
depth chart is that when Cleveland drafted him, they only
ever viewed him as a developmental prospect and never was
seriously in their long term plans at quarterback.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
What are your thoughts on that situation?
Speaker 6 (27:00):
Think you'd have to be inside the meetings to have
the actual factual truth. The thing that popped into my
mind was one Dylan Gabel deserves the full support of
everybody with this opportunity and having Shador at the backup.
If Dylan plays bad, then automatically, what does the tenor
and tone become. Let's go to Shador also. And I'm
(27:22):
not sure exactly, but a lot of teams don't keep
the third quarterback on the active roster for game day,
and if the third quarterback plays, none of the other
quarterbacks can go into the game. So I looked at it,
say Dylan has to come out for a play for
equipment or something if the third stringer goes in and
(27:43):
none of the other two could play. So that's how
I was looking at it. And I will know for
sure if I'm right or wrong. If at some point
Chador starts and Fly goes the backup and Dealing is
a third, then the way I looked at it makes sense.
If not, it kind of is what it is. Guys,
Like here, here's the thing with this whole thing. Sir
Door chose to approach the draft process in the way
(28:04):
he wanted. It didn't work. You alienated different teams. We
told the Ravens not the draft. You say the Ravens
takes your doing the third or fourth round like they
wanted to. He's starting Sunday the Baltimore Ravens. So he
made choices. Now you got to live with those choices.
You can't play the victim out of It's gonna play
out how it play out. When he gets his opportunity.
(28:26):
If it gets it, you gotta be ready to go.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Yeah, were's obviously. I just have a feeling that he's
not gonna go anywhere too. And we kind of knew
going into the season this will be one of the
bigger storylines even and.
Speaker 6 (28:36):
Let me say, let me get it before we leave this,
because I know there are a lot of coaches that
listen to this, a lot of young quarterbacks. When you
take the line and Shador has taken you don't ever
get to play victim, and you don't ever get to
make an excuse if you perform bad. If you take
the humble approach. The team is bigger than I approach
(28:59):
to be Cam war Kim Warner didn't played great yet,
but nobody's attacking Kim Woard because they look at him
as a good guy. We're gonna give him time, We're
gonna give him grace. And so that's what I think
Shad is finding out. He's finding the other side of
being flamboyant foragadocious, and you can choose to do whatever
you want to do. I'm just saying you got to
(29:20):
live with the outcomes of that short And you.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Know what, dagga, Sean, I thought I was gonna move on,
but I blame you. So let me add to that.
I look at what his response from his father was,
and he said, he laughed, I know, did you see
it at all?
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Sean?
Speaker 1 (29:33):
He said, haha, I you know, he said, good one, son.
And one of the things that I think the difference
is he's not you, Dion. You could come to the
draft iced out, golded out, that era, gold everywhere, Jerry Curl,
dripping looking good because you were put third or fourth pick.
You were that guy. You were that guy once you
got to league. And I think the difference so you
(29:55):
can do certain things. You were so much that guy
you played in MLB and World Series, right Like, he's
not that, And there is a different approach that has
to be taken at times. You have to humble plat
go ahead.
Speaker 6 (30:08):
I love Dion Sanders. I want them to succeed at Colorado.
I think he's a great marketer. I think he's probably
one of the best personal brand ambassadors we've ever seen
as professional athlete. He knows absolutely nothing about quarterback. And
that's why I think the disconnect is Dion played a position.
I played quarterback to the Bucks versus Dion. I could
(30:30):
take Dion completely out of the game by saying, I'm
not going to throw the ball there. So when you
play a position where you can be eliminated and you
can't control it, you have to go above and beyond
personality wise in order to create a brand, in order
to be well known, or no matter how good you are,
end up being Daryl Green. None wrong being Daryl Green.
But he's not gonna get the marketing opportunities beon does.
(30:52):
He's not flamboyant like Dion. The thing that I would
tell Stu, you play quarterback to get outside opportunity, that
that position. You touch the ball so much, here in
the spotlight so much. All you have to do is
be good. You'll need the extras.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
That's real.
Speaker 6 (31:07):
Yeah, And that's that's why I think that this connected.
Dion knows how to do it his way, but his son,
the only one of the sons that ended up really
having proability. Happens to play quarterback, and Prime wants him
to be Prime junior. But he plays a position where
people don't really don't really accept that kind of braggadocious
(31:30):
energy at that position, especially for somebody that's unproven.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
That's the key part to manage that unproven.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
Ye all, shall we get to get here on this one?
We got a coup about a mill and a half left.
Lamar Jackson's out this week with the hamshring injury. There's
a report now he's going to be out through the
bye week with Baltimore at one in three?
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Number one, do you think.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
That's the wise move to resting through the bike? Can
they even afford to do it? And number two, what's
wrong with the Ravens? I know you got a minute, but.
Speaker 6 (31:55):
Quickly, For one, I don't think they're resting Lamar. You
can say what you want about Lamar. The one thing
he's never shown us is that if he's capable of playing,
he doesn't play like I know they had the one
contract dispute at the end of the year where he
didn't go to the playoff game whatever, But over the
course of his career he's been available. So I will
presume that he's not capable of performing Sunday. Having said that,
(32:18):
the Ravens got complacent. They stopped paying attention to detail.
They stopped prioritizing the fundamentals, and that's what's gotten them beat.
Protecting the football, making tackles in space, having the right
pad level, attacking the right hip, fundamentally sound on my throws,
you know, seeing the ball in on my catcher. They
got away from the fundamentals and having attention to detail,
(32:40):
and now they're losing close games that they would normally win.
Can they fix it? Yes? Is it going to be hard,
absolutely because of the injuries here.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
And Sean King, Appreciate you man as always. We'll do
it again next week and Jegia weekend.
Speaker 6 (32:51):
Hey, last thing before I go Florida State is beating Miami.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Ooh, there you have it.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
You got it from him and putting some money down,
So I'll say, put some money on that bank on
that Sean. We'll talk about it next week as well.
Appreciate you as always, man. All Right, the Padres, they
have the right to be upset and they're saying maybe
it is time to bring something to the game.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
We'll tell you what that is, it's The Odd Couple.
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Speaker 2 (33:17):
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Speaker 3 (33:29):
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Speaker 1 (33:31):
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Speaker 3 (33:35):
Thank you for hanging with us. Appreciate it as.
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(33:59):
you gotta make sense why you lost, right, especially when
it's a little bit controversial, and that's what the padres
are doing a little bit actually calling for something that
Rob Parker and I had a conversation about about a
week or so.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
Yeah, it's a lot of bit controversial because you guys
were watching it during the show yesterday and then Monci,
you guys had a quit two minute conversation about it.
In the ninth enning of that Padres game, in a
full count, Xander Boguards gets a pitch that's low and outside,
not by a lot, but obviously baseball. Watching on the
screen that you could tell it was a ball home played,
(34:30):
umpire calls it a strike.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
There's the first out of the inning.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
The picture then walks the next two guys gets them
on base. Now, ultimately it's all for not because they
don't score anyways, But if that ball had been called
a ball, the Padres theoretically could add basis loaded no
outs in the game. They trailed by two runs. So
after the game you had several Padres players on camera
(34:56):
basically charging at the home paid umpire race he's going
to the clubhouse how to get held back? And then
Boguards tells the media after the game that he basically
saying it was a bad call and quote thank god
for ABS next year because this is terrible. I mean,
easy question is this me? Is this maybe not for you?
But does this change your mind now about the ABS system? Well,
(35:18):
even that we saw what should have happened last night,
so I was in favor when you're probably the wrong
person asked that question.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Well, no, but I'll tell you, but it cemented something
of one of the reasons why I said it. I
love the human element in sports, right, referees, umpires, depending
on the sport, whatever it is, chair umps and tennis,
it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
I love all that stuff. I think tennis does have
a great job.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
You get a challenge, we have to see hit the line, Okay,
cool is out whatever, get a couple of game, whatever
it is, and yet most of the time it's just
an ump a referee calling out. The reason I love
the human element is because that's how we all grew up. Right,
You grew up playing whatever your favorite sport was. There's
an honor when you go play pick up basketball, right,
call your own all your own files or if you
guys stepped out then if not, we'll shoot for it.
(36:00):
It just just just how we all did it. Everything
wasn't perfect, it wasn't exactly It was part of the game.
You had to suck it up, you had to go
play and just move on. So I still want the
human element. The reason why I was in favor of
this and again let's just give it a shot, is
because technology has gotten so good that we see it
anyway exactly like they've gotten to the incremental, like they
zoom in and find show you the exact data. It's like,
(36:22):
if you keep showing me that was clearly a ball
or that was clearly a strike, or that he wasn't
hit or whatever it is, then to me, you might
as well have that at least have that option for
them the challenge a few times a game. Only the catcher,
the pitcher and the hitter I believe it is that
can challenge it.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
I liked.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
I like giving that a shot, because again, you can't
show me how egregious it is or how bad an
ump is having a night, and I keep seeing there's
amazing four K technology.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Where are you on this?
Speaker 4 (36:50):
No, I agree with you, And this is something that
Rob and I have argued about off the air, you know,
for years now, because this is this is not a
new development, right. The idea of robot MS and the
ABA system has been around forever. And one of the
things I've consistently told him is once you allowed instant
replay into the sport, which they do, like if a
guy is out on first base, they.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
Can review see it every game.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
When you see like yesterday game there was a pitch
where it hit the ground first and then it hit
the battery, So is that count as it hit battering?
And you know, like that's you can review that. So
once you allow those kind of reviews, why then can't
we review something like this because.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
Rob g it's gonna check forever. They're gonna review everything.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
I mean that that would be the counter if somebody
was saying, because we're gonna review everything, I just think
everything you just said. But adding dude, I mean, they
like zoom in, they have the grid like it's just
insane how much we're able to see. And to me,
what's the point of showing me all this just to go, boy,
you got that wrong, missed that. Bolguards has every right
(37:51):
to be hot about that one, right, and and nobody's
saying every single one can be challenged. But if you
give I like that, and that adds to me, can
add a little drama to the game, right batter, step
by yo, whatever it'll be, waving a hand or tapping ahead,
whatever it'll be, add a little drama. So I'm in
favor of it giving a shot because the worst thing happen.
You know what, The NFL does a great job of
this change it. Oops are bad NFL is like kickoff returns.
(38:14):
They're dangerous changing. Wait now, bring him back, Bring him back,
I don't care about safety. No more running back, and
then knock his head off.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
Who cares
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