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July 3, 2025 40 mins

Rob and Kelvin explain why LeBron James is no longer worth selling the farm for. Plus, former Los Angeles Dodgers general manager Ned Colletti swings by to discuss Clayton Kershaw entering the 3,000-career strikeout club, what Kershaw’s legacy will ultimately be, Shohei Ohtani’s case to be the National League MVP, and much more! Finally, the Odd Couple Crew debates ‘dupe’ culture in this week’s edition of Shop Talk

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coming up, Ned COLLETTI, that's my guy. Yeah, Neat you can,
former Dodgers GM. We'll talk some baseball. I thought there
was some snubs in the All Star voting Byron Buxton
should have been the starting center fielder, not Hobby Bias

(01:56):
for the Tigers. I'm not he had a great.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
Quite back here. Why are you hating? No, come on,
really the starting center fielder. I'm asking that about that?
I think how he was even caught off guard. His
agent called him. He's like me, starting center fielder in
for the American League. I get it. So we'll talk
with net Collect he can't wait for that nicest guy
in the world.

Speaker 4 (02:14):
Oh yeah, and shop talk. So we'll get to that
as well. But Kelvin Lebron James, you want to like
this kind of layer.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Yeah, yeah, So what's happening in all these kind of
stories that are NBA rumors that you know, will he
be traded and other teams interested in him and all
that kind of yep. So of course he opted in
in that fifty two and a half million dollar player option.
And then you go back to the conversations his boy,
his agent Rich Paul saying, look, Lebron is you know,

(02:44):
he appreciate what the Lakers doing, but Lebron is gonna
win now win.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
He's trying to win.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
And then you go to a Dave MCMANNHIMU of ESPN said,
he said that he's here in the Dallas. I'm told
that they would only be interested in Lebron in a
buyout situation. And then it starts the conversations wants to
you know, do you trade for him? Do you do
the Lakers buy him out and let him go somewhere,
And so that's where these rumors starts to become. You know,

(03:09):
he's trying to win out. We said this yesterday even
with signing DeAndre Ayton for the couple of years that
didn't move that. I said, they went from a seven
seed to a six and a half seed.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
This isn't a huge as they're comprised right now. That
wasn't a big jump, big leap. So the conversations becomes,
well what do the Lakers do? And east moment that
goes by, it's kind of a and they're not talking,
and you know, you start to play it around in
your head a little bit. Would they let Lebron go?
Would they pay him out? And look, I believe this
new ownership, Rob, they're not doing that.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
They're not.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
They're not They're not gonna pay fifty two point six
million whatever buyout for Lebron to go away. I think
they value still what he brings from a notoriety standpoint,
I think they're still The hard thing about Lebron is
he's still an all NBA guy, Rob, He's still an
all NBA guys, So it's just letting him go for nothing,
or letting him go for trade for a couple of
guys who aren't that good. It becomes difficult. He has

(04:01):
made it a very hard thing to balance because he's
still better than ninety five percent of the guys and
question his impact. But go ahead, and that's fair. I'm
not even mad.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
At that impact as far as winning.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
When you look up and a guy nightly is getting
your twenty five, eight and eight, well, who the heck
is replacing that? But on the flip side, these teams realize, Rob,
this is an era where they got to be deep,
they have to be young, they have to have a
bunch of players for ain't it And.

Speaker 4 (04:28):
It's the first time he's not it right, And we
saw it in the playoffs where everybody was banking on
who wouldn't take Lebron and Luca And guess.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
What, Minnesota, simm we ain't taking it exactly. I think
he's at the first time in his life where he
has to look in the mirror and it's an unreal thing.
Since he's probably twelve years old, you're not the best.
Other teams will pass on you for the first time.
I say, now, we're good. We're gonna run at our
youth movement or run the squad we have now. And
I think that's an unusual situation now and I don't

(04:58):
think many teams will bite or you know, take that
bait like he probably thought they would.

Speaker 4 (05:04):
I'm with you, and I'm just gonna break it down.
You know, I'm into the clothes and shopping and all that.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
I love to go. Yes, you are.

Speaker 4 (05:10):
And Lebron used to be Sacks Fifth Avenue. I know
if fans or butts because of all the stuff you
talked about. Now he's ross, he's going to ross and
teams as you say, I get the numbers and all that,
but you're not. No, I'm not training for him. He
makes too much money. I have to give up something.

(05:31):
I'm not interested in that. And I'm not interested in
just having Lebron for a year or two to sell tickets.
I'm not interested in that either. And I think that
the Lakers a aren't going to give them a buyout
and give them money a going away present so that
some other team can have them. So I don't see.
I don't see where this could happen. Where he's going anywhere.

(05:53):
And I understand that Dallas Mavericks. Sure, you want to
take the veteran's minimum, come five million dollars, right, and
you just want to play a while.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
We'll do that.

Speaker 4 (06:01):
Anybody would do that, right, But he's not worth fifty
three million to a team or giving up players to
have them and have to pay him fifty three million.
Do you see what I'm saying. There's no and this
is one of the all time great players. He's forty
one plus.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
I think if you're the Lakers, if he were to
have a farewell season, like let's say, for whatever reason
in the next month or two, he comes out, I say, hey,
I just want of everybody noticed to be and this
is my last season. I want that in a Laker uniform.
I want that to be. I don't want to I
don't want to buy him out so he can go
have that for the New York Knicks, the reunited with
the Calves, or you know, with the Warriors, so he

(06:39):
can finally have one year where he plays with Steph.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
No, if you're gonna have this is it.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
I want that farewell just like they did with Cat
Kareem and he was sitting there in a chair and
everybody's giving him rocking chairs around different cities and having fun.
I want that in a Laker uniform. I want that
to be we talked about. I want that to be
a part of you know, a part of our thing.
So if this happened to have been that last season now, bro,
we're gonna have to have that last season here. But
too many teams right now in the NBA realize seven

(07:06):
years straight different champion, and I'm sure many feel like
we got a shot. I mean in the West alone,
you probably have legitimately five to six teams that feel like,
why why not US Rockets? Why not repeating if you're
the thunder Minnesota makes a move, they feel like, hey,
we can be in this thing.

Speaker 4 (07:23):
Feel like we're right now, and they've been on the
CUSP Minnesota, yep. And the Nuggets, we already know they
won a championship and now they've boastered a team, got
the pieces that they had lost after they won the championship,
bench help some shooting.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
Yeah, Like they're looking like, hey man, the chance the
current champs, we took the seven games and we just
got better exactly. So there's a bunch of teams and
then you got a handful of teams in the East
who probably feel the same way. Hey man, we got
a shot to at least get to the finals. Then
we don't beat everybody in the West, but we got
a chance to get there. So point being this is
there's not a heavy need base for him right now.
And also he's not even thirty eight euro version of him.

(07:59):
You say, all right, I'm taking a flyer two three
more years of this. I'm taking a flyer on that,
you know, but the forty one soon to be forty
one year old version. And this father Time, who was undefeated,
now he is father Time on a bit on the
ropes for Lebron. Father Time's been getting beat down by Lebron,
but he's still undefeated. And at some point I don't
want to make that trade. And this is the year
you finally snap a hamstring and you're out forty games.

(08:22):
And now I'm sitting here.

Speaker 4 (08:23):
But it is interesting that people just this was a
couple of years ago, different story, a completely different story.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
But you cannot do fire.

Speaker 4 (08:31):
I don't think that under any circumstance you would be interested.
And and all the reporting that I've heard is that
no one's interested at Lebron as a player at fifty
three million dollars like that, like that, that's what they're
not for.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
And we know now with the second Apron, a lot
of teams are looking at all this. This isn't you know?
Five six years ago he said, all right, screw it,
let's do it whatever. Who cares this second apron? And
like I say, everybody's you need two aprons to cook?

Speaker 3 (08:58):
I don't understand. No, I'm living a guy. She got
one in the front, one of the back.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
Is that it is that what you putting in work
in the kitchen if you need to ap two aprons? Right, yeah,
that might be me tomorrow. People still put aprons on.
I can remember my mom with an apron cooking.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
My mother when she's in town, did she put an apron?

Speaker 1 (09:14):
But my mother is kind of Martha Stewarty, like she
has all the proper cooking.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
She's really into that stuff.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
So even when she's my mom is a type who
will tell you like, I'm gonna order this apron and
leave it in the such and such closet for me.

Speaker 5 (09:27):
Rob, nobody's putting on an apron to press three minutes
on the micro What it is that's the problem?

Speaker 3 (09:33):
And you get you spotted him something. I'm just asking.
I only got you've seen those pictures of his refrigerator.
Your wife to be, she doesn't cook. I'm saying, Look,
I'm saying, no one puts on an apron.

Speaker 5 (09:42):
Wait three minutes into the microwaves, you coming to me.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
We all got the joke on you, Rob, Why is
fiance taking up in here? I'm just asking. I'm asking
you too. Does your wife put an apron on when
she cooks?

Speaker 1 (09:57):
No, okay, I don't. I'm trying to think she might
have us season, oh like a Christmas one on my
He depends on what's being prepared. Yeah, like she might
have Thanksgiving joined if I mistaken, But just ninety eight
percent of the cooking. No, ninety eight percent of the cooking.
She got a daughter, you know, pulling on her leg.
Another one is answer air B and the because you're
home work. I'm sitting here with you right now. So

(10:19):
when I come in, I'm like, hey, baby, she looking
at me like you when you were dating.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
She might have put on an apron and you know
what I mean.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
And Bedman, just the apron. But while you get all
excited about that, why you get all excited about her aprons?
And aprons only this is what I'll be talking about.
I'm just saying, well, that's what I be talking all right,
all right? Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox will
throw out the number two.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
Uh but but but.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
Nobody Christmas bet thatd be aprons for my Christmas for me?

Speaker 3 (10:46):
Bet not be an apron for my wife roblem. You
know something, it's gonna be a backless apron. I'm look out.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
A backless either that you're gonna be trying your wife Aaron, Aaron,
Alex's boom?

Speaker 3 (11:04):
You got a boom as your girlfriend cook? Alex? Oh
she cooks great? Okay, what she wouldn't want a backless apron?
You know what?

Speaker 1 (11:11):
She probably will listen, No, no, no, let me tell
you who don't need a backless apron.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
Look at Shay Shane like on all Apple aprons backless.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Let me tell you who don't need that Alex in
his lay they they have. There will be no cooking.
There's already barely cooking.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
Yes, all right, I'm just because the next going y'all
gonna do is something bacon in the oven.

Speaker 6 (11:31):
And I don't line just haven't cooked anything yet.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
Here you go, Yeah, something bacon, all right, all right?
Eight seven seven. I'm not gonna call you about it's
a bun of me. I'll talk. That's a bun of me.
I love that talk.

Speaker 4 (11:43):
There you go, eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox
eight seven seven.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
Nine, nine, six, sixty three sixty nine.

Speaker 4 (11:50):
Is Lebron James still worth selling a farm for?

Speaker 3 (11:55):
Has he gone from Sachs to Ross? Can it be
Macy's no rass?

Speaker 4 (12:00):
We'll continue a consent unfit that's the problem, but you
might buy it anyway because it's on sale.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
We'll continue that conversation next with you.

Speaker 4 (12:07):
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Speaker 3 (13:09):
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as Rob put it and say it again, as Lebron
what he used to he went.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
From Sacks Fifth Avenue to Ross.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
I mean, is he worth the fifty two point six million?
Is he worth maybe kind of resetting your roster at
this age even though he's still a quality player. Is
he worth it? Would you make that move or not?
Eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox, So we got.

Speaker 4 (14:26):
Kurt in North Dakota. You're in the couple of Fox
Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
What's up? Kurt?

Speaker 9 (14:31):
Thank you very much. You guys are the best. I
was just fun of the backup. I just wanted to
back up covern on a really good point, and that
was seeing Lebron James retired in the Lakers uniform. My
grandmother was born in eighteen eighty seven and she was
a big Lakers fan in Saint Paul Minnsoorti in the fifties,
watching like George Micah and Vernon Michaelson, Jim Pollard, and

(14:53):
the Lakers have such a storage history. I mean, they're
like the Yankees of basketball to me. And let's just
says on the side of love, the pet Riley Lakers version.
But anyways, I think that was a great point. I'd
like to see your Bron's retirement added to the Laker
history and the Laker Lakers lore.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
And they're aware of that too. They're aware of that too,
you know, they they're aware of that. Thank you, Kurt
got you appreciate it, appreciate you. Shout out to everybody
in North Dakota. Have you been in Dakoda? And I
do want to do all fifty states at some point
in my life. Once these kids get out of my house,
then I'll good luck put that on I know right always, Daddy,
we're back.

Speaker 4 (15:29):
Ralph and Queens. You're on the Odd Couple of sports radio.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
What's up?

Speaker 8 (15:35):
How you good?

Speaker 9 (15:37):
Hey?

Speaker 10 (15:37):
First of all, shout out to.

Speaker 8 (15:39):
The Odd Couple. Everyone across the glass. You all are working.

Speaker 10 (15:43):
Everyone seemed to have gone home already, So shout out
to you guys.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
Well, I want you to know.

Speaker 4 (15:49):
I want you to know, Ralph Rob Parker will be
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Speaker 2 (15:55):
It's you now, now, now that I gave you some credit,
Rob Parker.

Speaker 8 (15:59):
Although you guys may be right about your Lebron Ross
right now, someone's gotta call it Rob Parker.

Speaker 9 (16:06):
He's been waiting twenty years.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
I agree with that.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
Now.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
I agree with you on that route. Even k was
laughing Kawhi laughing on that one.

Speaker 8 (16:17):
Yeah, we got the Kawhi laugh. All right, you guys
happy for us, appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
Thanks you Rise. I've been waiting to even wait. E've
been waiting, boy, Alan? Is that La?

Speaker 4 (16:27):
Or is in Louisiana? Alan in la You're on the
odd Couple? Fox Sports Radio?

Speaker 3 (16:32):
What's up?

Speaker 9 (16:34):
Actually?

Speaker 10 (16:34):
And I never saw X Files other than when they
guest appeared on The Simpsons one.

Speaker 4 (16:40):
I've never I'm with you, like I knew the name,
I forgot Moulder and Sully, but but I did not
watch that show.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
I wonder if that's, like, you know what another show
people didn't watch as much as we thaw Star Trek.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
We've talked about this.

Speaker 4 (16:52):
No, not when it originally aired. The ratings weren't good,
but are you kidding?

Speaker 1 (16:56):
Well, of course, late it became a whole thing. But
thinking original one we think of it. It was a
bigger exactly, it's bigger culturally than it really was. Viewershow
I wonder if X files like.

Speaker 4 (17:06):
That, A Alan real quick? What was the network that
Star Trek was on? The original network that Star Trek
was on?

Speaker 10 (17:17):
Oh, geez, CBS, I don't know amount.

Speaker 3 (17:20):
Of NBC, NBC and it was and it was a
Desi Lou production. I don't know who that Luci Ball
and Together company. That was all right, Alan, go ahead,
ware you go wow?

Speaker 10 (17:38):
Yeah, so first time call her?

Speaker 8 (17:40):
Uh yeah.

Speaker 10 (17:40):
So the Lebron's talk is always kind of interesting. I
think ultimately, I think the money is going to keep
him where he is. If he ended up in let's say, Cleveland,
it's the cool story. I don't see that's happening. One
thing I want to propose was what if Staples says, Okay,
we got a Kyrie Irving that's basically not going to
play all season. What about it just a swamp You
reunite Lebron with ad reunite Kyrie with Lucas.

Speaker 8 (18:05):
Something like that.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
What are the issue I have with that is it
sucks the air out of the room.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
And I think some franchises are at a certain point
where they're like, Okay, For instance, if you're the Mavericks,
you want all at tension to be finally on.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
You know Nico.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
You saw Nico Harrison after draft and after a couple
of moves. Oh, I think the fans are loving it again.
I think they're coming back around. You just don't want
then Lebron and it sucks it And if it doesn't
go as well because Lebron, it's just not working.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
And like you rather.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
Say, even because they have the luxury alan even if
they're not great, they can say which you ask, because
Kyrie isn't here yet, that's the only reason why we're
not that great, or they have the luxury in the
back pocket of saying, man Cooper flag this rookie year,
he's only gonna get better, He's only gonna get better.

Speaker 3 (18:47):
So I think they'd rather just move.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
Forward with that than have that kind of now all
of the distractions and Lebron retiring here is this is
last year or not so appreciate the call though, thank you.

Speaker 3 (18:59):
Yeah, I just think you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
There's some teams who don't want I think you'd have
to be a team that's so kind of irrelevant.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
I just think we're selling.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
Tickets, we're selling jerseys and all that, trying to win, right,
right and that, and that's the problem with Lebron.

Speaker 4 (19:15):
And I think where Alan from La just said, he's right,
like the money is going to keep him here.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
There's just a lot of money for the in the
second Apron and now to buy them out just for
him to go. You know, now, I do there are
teams that if they are a guy away, you know
that you could be like, oh that's but I just
don't see them one upset.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
You know what they have the roster.

Speaker 4 (19:43):
Remember what we always talk about with Lebron, like you
have to figure out everything around Lebron too. If he's
going to be in the mix, he's not going to
be a fringe.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
Player, right, No, And the third guy always takes the
back seat there with the third guy there like it's
just his year. And if Lebron would be there now
or maybe he's a second guy now.

Speaker 3 (20:02):
He'll be third and he'll be standing at the perimeteral.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
Seriously, that happened to Kevin Love and Boshapping's Love.

Speaker 4 (20:09):
Was doing a double dobe. He's getting twenty four and
seventeen am I right on a nightly basis, like twenty five.
I would look up twenty four and seventeen.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
He was at a crazy numbers. You bet the body
because the team wasn't great, so you'd only see it
on the ticker. Was like he was on TV and
you'd be like, excuse me, every night it was monster. Yeah,
so the third guy has to take a back seat.
And there's teams were really good too, guys, and like
if he were under the thunder Jaylen Williams, who's making
so much progress, would be all of a sudden way
step back, and you wouldn't want that as an organization.

(20:41):
All right, we got Ned Colletti getting ready to join
us in a little bit.

Speaker 3 (20:43):
That'd be cool.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
Really here here from Ned right now, we're gonna throw
it over to Martin so he can get you straight
on what is trending Martin.

Speaker 5 (20:51):
Concerning news on the Major League Baseball's Guardians, starting pitcher
Luis Ortiz has been placed on paid leave over a
reported m'bat in investigation into gambling and betting integrity firm
flag two pitchers from Martiz on June fifteenth and June
twenty seventh, as to what got them looking into him
in the first place Major League Baseball Scores and actual
right now. The aforementioned Guardians scoreless bottom of the second

(21:14):
inning against the Cubs, The Angels with a four nothing
lead over the Braves, top of the fifth the Mets,
and if they won nothing lead over the Brewers, Yankees
and Blue Jays tied at three apiece. The Nationals with
a nine to three lead over the Tigers. In the
bottom of the sixth inning, James Wood hit his twenty
third home run of the season. Today also announced that
he'll be participating in the home Run Derby at Wimbledon

(21:36):
on the men's side. Ten seed and men's Shelton was
the first I'm sorry. Has won the first two sets
in his second round match, is up five games to
four in the third set, could play suspended because of darkness.
Novak Djokovic advancing to the third round for a record
nineteenth time. Dallas Mavericks assistant Jared Dudley is finalizing a
deal to become the top assistant coach for Denver Nuggets
under David Adelman. And the Pittsburgh Steelers have announced that

(21:59):
they have signed gm Omar Khan to a three year
contract that will keep him in Pittsburgh through at least
the twenty twenty eight season and the Carolina and Hurricanes.
I've signed forward Nick Ellers to a six year, fifty
one million dollar contract.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
Back to you guys, appreciate you, Martin, thank you. It
is the Akaba Rod Parker kelvin Washington.

Speaker 4 (22:18):
You know what.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
It is a TV thing So on Thursday and boy
do we have a treat getting ready to have somebody
on both of you and I know and it's just
a baseball savit and overall even more than that, is
just a great guy.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
He also worked in the NHL. You know that.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
No, I did know that, but it is ye what
is super cool to do. We're gonna have neck Coletti
on here in just a moment to talk to him.
He's a former Los Angeles Dodger GM you mentioned, worked
in NHL. He's just one of those guys who just
hands in a different million different pots. So look forward
to talking to him in a little bit. Which was
a magical night last night at Chavez Ravine Dodger Stadium.
As somebody he's very familiar with, Clayton Kershaw. That's three

(22:56):
thousand strikeouts. I say it ain't happening again, you say
it will at some point.

Speaker 4 (23:00):
I think it's gonna happen. They're free swingers in baseball. Strikeouts, well,
no big deal, But at one time you didn't want
to strike out.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
You need to make contact.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
Doesn't matter now because analytics say this and say that,
and now we can ask Ned that. Ned Colletti's our
guest right now with the odd couple. Ned, what's up, man?

Speaker 3 (23:16):
How are you? Ned?

Speaker 8 (23:17):
Hey? Doing great? Gentleen doing great?

Speaker 3 (23:20):
Always great to talk to you, absolutely, Net.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
We were just talking about this just you know Clinton
Kershaw so well inside and out, what he was able
to do last night and what he's been able to
do over his career now all these years. Just talk
about how difficult that task is. Only twenty guys have
ever done it, and just what Clinton Kershaw's meant to
the Dodgers baseball as a whole.

Speaker 8 (23:41):
Well, it's very unique when you think about how many
starting pitchers, how many pitchers ever been in the game,
and he's one of twenty, and he's one of four
that two you know, left handed right, It is quite
the accomplishment. I mean, it's it's rare. We don't know,
you know, who will be the next maybe maybe sail,

(24:02):
but he's about four or five hundred away. And after that,
I mean it may be decades. But what he means
to the organization, I think is at the utmost when
you think about what he's done, how he's done it,
the integrity he brings both to his craft and to
his family and to how he lives his wife pretty phenomenal.
And you know, as I as I look back on it,

(24:24):
and I was there last night and got a little
tearyoe actually watching watching it unfold.

Speaker 4 (24:30):
You know, I would have given you a tissue, din
uh howl is that would have passed you a tissue
if it was.

Speaker 8 (24:36):
It wasn't that. It was just a little tearing up.
But you know, he's special. He's just special. And what
he's done and how he's done it. You guys know athletes,
I mean you guys obviously no athletes that that he
would be as talented as he is and would never
rest on his world, would never rest was always would

(24:56):
climb a mountain and look, not look where he just
and how far we claimed, but look for the next one,
and look for the next one, and look for the
next one. And I can't say every athlete I've been
around and continue to have that pursuit of excellence. But
that's that's who he is and that's what he's done.

Speaker 4 (25:15):
How important was it finally in twenty twenty when he
won a World Series and was you know, pitch well
in it because we got to you know, look at
it honestly and truthfully two five to one career e
RA in the postseason, you know, he had.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
A four I think it's like four four, you know
what I.

Speaker 4 (25:34):
Mean, And there were some really bad moments and things
that people remember, Kershar giving up home runs and all
kinds of runs and just uncharacteristic of.

Speaker 3 (25:43):
What he had done in his career.

Speaker 4 (25:44):
How important was that for him to finally win that
and kind of put that the rest, you know, as
far as legacy, because we know he's a great pitcher.

Speaker 8 (25:52):
Yeah, well that's a good point, you know. I think
I think it is important. I mean, he'll you know,
he was, he was thrilled, I think last night with
the accomplishment and having Ellen there and his kids there
and his friends there. You know, it's a big deal.
But I think that he would he would put it
all aside for more championships. That's what he is. I mean,

(26:15):
he's a team guy. He's that's an old cliche, but
knowing him, I mean, that's who he is. I can't
tell you how many times it went to the playoffs
five times, four times was he was with us? The
first time was as with you as his first year
as pro ball, and we would call him in, whether
it was Joe Torre or Don Manningly and always Rick

(26:35):
Honeycutt the pitching coach before the series and lay out
our pitching plans. And when you have a best three
out of five, you know who's going to start Game one.
It's going to be him, most likely, and then you
don't know where you're going to be. When you get
to Game three, you may be down to zero. Yeah,
you made up. And every time we would bring him in,

(26:57):
he would say whatever you need, whatever you need, and
it wasn't like a phony or a false hustle, whatever
you need. It was real. And the last time, and
I think it was in fourteen, perhaps call him in
and he had one of the best answers I've ever heard.
We're talking to him and said, well, you know, while

(27:18):
you're in here, and he looks at me and he
says you know, you bring me in here every October
and we have this conversation and I finally really figured
out what I really need to tell you. He said,
what I need to tell you is I work all
winter so that when you asked me this question, with
one hundred percent confidence and preparation, I can tell you

(27:42):
I'm ready to do this. I am ready, and you know,
to have an athlete think to that extent and be
able to convey that like I've been working on this
since November to get to this October and knowing that
and hope we got there. We got there. A lot
that this type of common station to take place. I
just found it a little fascinating and really rewarding in

(28:05):
a lot of ways that that was his approach for
what he did. What he did for most of the time,
I mean all the time. Really, he didn't do it
for himself. He did it for the team, He did
it for his family, did it for the city of
La the organization. Not everybody does it like that.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
He is net KLETTI on with the Odd Couple, Robin
Kelvin on the TV Things on Thursday. Man, I want
to ask you about this, Rob and I talk about
this guy you can. And I'll even throw in another
one in Aaron Judge. But how special these two guys
were seeing Shoey Otani and Aaron Judge this run that
they've both been on. But I'll start with just show Hey,
you've been covering the game for so long. Did you

(28:42):
think you would see a guy who could pitch at
regularly for the first you know, five years or so
four or five years and then obviously had a couple
of rough years with injuries pitching wise, but now back
pitching and yet still be this prolific as a hitter
and even stealing bases like he did last season.

Speaker 3 (28:57):
Did you think you would see this?

Speaker 8 (28:59):
No? I people would compare him and have compared him
to Babe Ruth, and Babe is a totally different character
to me. He really brought the game to the forefront
of the public domain, different era, different things. But people
say Baby Ruth did. He started as a pitcher and
then he turned into the prolific hitter, but he only
threw like thirty thirty five games where he was both

(29:23):
what we see what mister Otani.

Speaker 9 (29:26):
Is is so unique.

Speaker 8 (29:28):
I mean, he's one of a kind. Would you would
this would almost be like watching an NFL game today
and the guy's the best middle linebacker to ever play
and the best quarterback ever played, and he's playing both
sides of the game. You know, it's what he does
is special. Bab Ruth. From my point, Baby Ruth didn't
even do this. So you're watching somebody that does stuff

(29:50):
that that you know, you could put together a video
game or a character to do something like this, but
they have somebody actually do it. It blows me away.
And the other thing I'll say about one more thing
on him. What surprised me most about last year is
that expectation could not have been greater for any athlete

(30:13):
than him LA the big contract, the whole thing, and
he didn't meet expectation. He had seated expectation that to
me is unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
No doubt.

Speaker 4 (30:25):
We're also talking about Aaron Judges, the top vote getter,
the All Star. To see a guy with that kind
of power net and then he's still batt in three sixty.

Speaker 3 (30:35):
Here we are in July.

Speaker 4 (30:38):
At one point, I know he was leading the league
in singles as well, and whatnot. What do you make
of a guy like that, who's who's just he's a
hitter and a power hitter. You don't see that combination
all the time.

Speaker 8 (30:50):
No, another rare talent. You know you can you can
find power and you can find guys that can hit that.
You can find somebody that can do both. It's again
you're looking for a rarity. You know in every draft,
there's not a player like that. He's a generational player.
There's not many players that bring that skill set and

(31:12):
really his his leadership and everything else that he does,
he's another He's another player that is there are there
are very good players in the big leages. You wouldn't
be there. If you want a good player beginning. Then
there's the upper, then there's the upper, and then there's
the upper of the upper. And both these players, for
me said, sit in that area with with hardly anybody else,

(31:36):
but that's who they are. And one of them, one
of them could be one of the best pitchers you'll see.
Besides being a guy that can steal basis, it would power,
neat expectation, lead off and do everything else he does.
He is such a threat.

Speaker 9 (31:50):
All the time.

Speaker 8 (31:51):
And there's there's also a piece to him and Mookie
and Freddie Fema and Will Smith and that group that
when that order over, like last night, you know the
other team is going, you know, we got our hands full.
Now this is psychology of how the team is put together.
And when you got a guy like like so Hey

(32:13):
leading off, like, oh goodness, I.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
Don't like that.

Speaker 4 (32:16):
You know what I got to say this Ned, I
know you want to get him an extra at bad
We got about a minute to go.

Speaker 3 (32:20):
I don't want to.

Speaker 4 (32:21):
Get off the But at one point it felt like
he had more home runs than RBIs, like like like
you know, like I understand the long ball, but I
don't want them all when there's nobody on base, Like
last year had one hundred and thirty RBIs.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
This year he was on page for eighty RBIs.

Speaker 4 (32:38):
I mean that's a big difference, right, No, you're you're
right on and.

Speaker 8 (32:42):
It was, and it just started to spread out a
little bit. But see, that's not his fault, so to speak.
That's not on him in my book, that's on the seven, eight,
and nine hitters, and they have been much better lately,
and that's on them because he's a leadoff hitter. Really
one time, right, Okay, it's almost like if you if

(33:03):
you wanted him hitting clean up take the seventh hitter,
he's the leadoff hit, or the eight hitter is the
second hitter, the nine hitters.

Speaker 9 (33:09):
The third hitter.

Speaker 8 (33:10):
Okay, if they were getting on base and they're much
better today than they were at the outset, right, if
they were doing that, you'd be fine with it. You
capture the extra at that, you put fear in the picture,
so to speak, anticipation. They know they got to start out.
They can't just work their way up to it. When
that when they go out for the first inning, they

(33:31):
got to be right on, right on point.

Speaker 3 (33:33):
Put the first pitch out. Man, are you kidding if
you're not right?

Speaker 8 (33:36):
Exactly?

Speaker 3 (33:37):
Yes.

Speaker 8 (33:37):
So it's not that it's really not that bad an
idea because after the first inning he can he can
be any hitter you want to be, because it depends
on what seven, eight and nine do.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
No, damn, we had talked about that in twenty seconds
World Series are who Who's who?

Speaker 4 (33:52):
Who's Who's And I already know Dodgers. No do that
like that, he's picking the Dodgers.

Speaker 8 (33:59):
Come on, it'll be the I mean, who's gonna you know,
only the team can beat the Dodgers, the dog, you know,
so so we'll put them in and then you know.
American League. I don't know who it's gonna be, but
I can do. But if I gotta say today, you
know whoever it is will be exhausted by the time
they get to the last week of October.

Speaker 4 (34:17):
I'll tell you the American League is not that good
this year. Teams are A lot of teams are flawed.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
You know what I mean. It's not a Oh yeahs.

Speaker 8 (34:25):
Are really good last year. All right. The Dodgers are
a class of a group.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
All right, Appreciate you man anytime. Oh, it's great to
talk to Ned COLLETTI, former Dodgers.

Speaker 8 (34:38):
G M.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
They're breaking stuff down for us. All right, Rap shop
talk on the way. See what Rob G's cooked up
for us. Shop talks should be fun. It's the okable
Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
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Speaker 3 (34:58):
All right, what's this one? Rob Benny Hill? Are you kidding?
I know the song that I couldn't name the show
Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
I couple Robin Kelvin on the TV things on Thursday,
aky knees, stiff back joints not cooperating.

Speaker 3 (35:16):
Some days your body's just like nah, bro.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
And on those days, luckily there's a leave with just
one pill of lead provides up to twelve hours of
paying relief so you can keep moving.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
So you was as directed. I know he was.

Speaker 4 (35:29):
He was in the movie Benny Hill was in the
movie Chitty Chitty Bang Bang. He was like the toy
maker because he's a big English actor and h am
I right?

Speaker 3 (35:40):
Wasn't he in the with the car right? Chitty Chitty
with Dick Van And is that Julie Andrews.

Speaker 1 (35:46):
Yeah, that's a classroom there, my mom. That was my
mom famous song, Chitty Chitty Bang.

Speaker 3 (35:51):
Bang, Chitty Chitty chitt Yep. All right, uh so it's
time now for talk. Ain't nobody's nipping a bomb shop?
You know that. Ain't nobody you were talking about? Whoever? Whatever?
You want to in a box up?

Speaker 8 (36:09):
What you know?

Speaker 3 (36:10):
It's shop telling me all right, shay, you were up today?
What you got for us?

Speaker 11 (36:14):
I am filling in for Rob's very tiny feet. I
hope I do a good job here. It's shop talk,
very easy. We kind of just talk about random things
not necessarily sports related. It could be sports related, but
not this one. Lululemon has filed a lawsuit against Costco,
accusing the chain of selling dupes, knockoff versions, lookalikes, whatever.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
You want to call it.

Speaker 11 (36:37):
I was duped of its clothing for discounted prices. Here's
the question, guys, should the brands be punished for selling
high quality dupes? And would you yourself by dupe items?

Speaker 3 (36:51):
Take it away? Boys? Uh so, here here's the thing.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
The funny part about this I was talking about this
is Lululemon had been sued before because years ago, when
they really started getting popping, everybody was spending their one
hundred dollars one hundred and fifty dollars for a T
shirt and a pair of pants, they started to lessen
the fabrics in women's particular regions and around the buttocks

(37:16):
as well. So women started to sue them because they
were saying, hey, I'm buying this and putting.

Speaker 3 (37:20):
On just sure here I got on. Yeah, this is
a lemon.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
That's a little limit, yeap? All right, eh, look at you.
You better make sure not a lemon. You see the
butter fake one there in these streets. So yeah, so
I'm finding the irony of them being mad at somebody
about lesson quality and getting sued and all that when
they used to do that. I was just in Mexico
and that cruise we stopped off in Insenada. And I'm
not a guy who rob who can walk down in
Senata and see the Louise and the guys like my man,

(37:44):
come on, man, come here, and they got the fake
Louise and the fake guts. I just can't do it
because in my fears, one day somebody would be like, yo,
yo gi is falling off on the Gucci Yo the
yo your thes VL, It's supposed to be LV. That's
not so I'm not a Rolex doesn't have to Yeah,
why is your Rolex ticking? So I'm I'm a pass
on it, but I get it. I get why people
do it, but I'm a pass but I'm not. But

(38:05):
also I don't like them suing them though, because that's
just part of the course. When you're a big business.
You know, many people try to be coke, you know
what I mean, That's just part of the business when
you're when you're a brand like that.

Speaker 3 (38:15):
I'm gonna tell you this, this is how I felt
going into that store. I was duped. I don't want
to buy anything that's fake and phony. I'm not with it.

Speaker 4 (38:24):
I'm not If I can't buy the Louis Vautan, the
real thing, I don't want it.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
You see people walking around the airport with.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
Their luggage, and you know what I'm saying, oh man,
and they're walking around like like, just get a regular suitcase, and.

Speaker 4 (38:37):
It's okay, it's all right, get a black vinyl suitcase.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
You don't need a fake Louis Vatan suitcase.

Speaker 4 (38:43):
It's just what is the purpose you think People walking
by don't don't realize.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
That you're wearing a fake. So then one would ask,
how do we know? Are we judging everything else?

Speaker 3 (38:53):
Quite obvious? Where are you Martin our o like Lululemon dupes?

Speaker 5 (39:01):
Absolutely, I'm not paying seventy five hundred dollars for why not?

Speaker 3 (39:05):
There's good quality? I got that's the problem. It ain't
good I used to because I can't.

Speaker 5 (39:09):
Take I'll take regular quality and the dress at that
level of coming and you can't.

Speaker 3 (39:14):
Take the money with you.

Speaker 4 (39:15):
What what's the big deal to spend good money on
good stuff for yourself?

Speaker 5 (39:19):
Because I can put the average money on average stuff,
and I'm good with that.

Speaker 3 (39:22):
It's the only time in your life you're like bipolar
or something.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
One minute, you're the cheapest man ever because they raised
seventeen cent. You won't buy a Goo, a soda, a
l Poyo loco, but you're coming here with a Gucci
Scully hat and a Gucci hoodie.

Speaker 4 (39:36):
I can't, man, I don't get it because I'm saving
the money from the drink so I could buy the
Gucci stuff.

Speaker 3 (39:41):
That's what it is, Alex, Hey, Alex.

Speaker 6 (39:44):
Simple, If it's not real, it's not for me. Right,
I'm not gonna wear dupes because then I'm gonna be duped.
I feel like, if you're proactively enabling a market where
you're gonna settle for less, where do you set the
boundary for what you will settle for less for?

Speaker 3 (40:00):
I was vacation. I can't. That was too much, was Alex?
My head exploded because that was so profostic you.

Speaker 5 (40:06):
I guess you guys never got the bag of loops
underneath the fruit loops?

Speaker 4 (40:10):
No, I never, because that was we were a bag
of loops house.

Speaker 3 (40:14):
To me, those are not dupe fruit loops. Those are
the less expensive versions.

Speaker 1 (40:19):
That was my point of when I said I don't
like Lululemon suing, because I said, if you're coke, people
have been trying to make coke.

Speaker 3 (40:25):
For where are you shak?

Speaker 11 (40:27):
I mean, I I can see people wearing reps. I'm
at a place where I don't have to wear reps,
like thankfully, Like I'm working, like I can save.

Speaker 3 (40:34):
Up for it something.

Speaker 11 (40:36):
If I'm in a spot where I'm not making that
much money, and like I I want to get some
Travis's and I don't have twelve hundred dollars to do it,
I'm gonna do it.

Speaker 3 (40:42):
I don't get fake Travis Scott. I wouldn't, but I
see where people are coming from. It's okay, unthinkable
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