November 26, 2025 • 36 mins
Rob and Kelvin discuss why Shedeur Sanders has become the one athlete in American pro sports that some people have blindly decided to rally behind. Plus, the Odd Couple Crew debates Mac n’ Cheese recipes in this week’s edition of One’s Gotta Go.
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Speaker 4 (02:40):
Also don't forget one's gotta go. We'll do that and
much more so. A lot of stuff uh going on,
rob g Uh Shador won his first start.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
It's the end of the world. He's the greatest thing
since light spread.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
We got to be putting extra sauce on it. We
were like, oh yo, he looked pretty good at a
good Ain't that ain't what it is? People gotta act
that ain't what it is the return of Joe Montana
because that's that's where we are.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Then you know what, I don't like that that's what
we are and that's the bad part. Like that's the part.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
He played perfectly fine. They won and that was it.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Ain't he didn't reinvent the position. All you gotta do
is listen to Kendrick Perkins was on a perk and.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
That tell that tells you, like like to hear that
that that tells you, my god, But really that's your guy.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Okay, you admit that, Rob G. What do you say?
Speaker 6 (03:36):
Well, Perk just nominated himself for the Hottest take of
the Year. And I don't say that lightly on this
show because rob had a few and Percha just blew
you right out of the water.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
At least mine a lot.
Speaker 6 (03:48):
Let him get this take off, Let him get take off,
and then you decide whether or not he was accurate.
Is Kendrick Perkins on the Legends Talk podcast talking about
Shader Standers on the heat of his first win as
NFL starter.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
Shadua Sanders is the most powerful black man since two
thousand and nine. You know what happened in two thousand
and nine, That's when President Obama got elected in office.
He's the most powerful black man since two thousand and nine.
You said you were sitting there watching the game in
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your house and what you did ran? You ran with
the TV. Right, who was you doing, dB? You was
chaining like when Shadua Sanders is on the field. And
when I say powerful, powerful, because it's two sides of it, right,
think about it. Okay, you got the black community. He
bringing the whole black community together. I ain't ran across
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one black person that then said one bad thing about
should do it. We won't even guess what we want
him because he has the balance. He has the balance
of that. I'm arrogant, but I'm humble too. Yeah, fun
with that, and he having fun with and on top
of that, y'all want me to say it, ain't y'all
want me to feel it, Ain't gonna have it. He's
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the most powerful black man in sports, no other, no other,
matter of fact, black man. He the most powerful player
in sports.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Terrible, what a what an awful take by Kendrick Perkins.
An embarrassing take to equate a fifth round quarterback with
the first freaking black president of the United States in
a country where black people came over here and chained
as slaves. How dare you diminish Barack Obama and his
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legacy to some damn football player.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Are you serious?
Speaker 4 (05:45):
I'm kelvin, I'm not even kidding. It is demeaning.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Really, that's your hot take that this dude matters more
and is the most powerful man than the first black
president of the United States. I don't think so. Any
any day of the week. You want to celebrate your door,
(06:12):
do it. You want to root for him, do it.
There are plenty of black people, I hate to break
it to you, who want your door Sanders fans, that's fair.
They could they have other quarterbacks that their fans off
or they don't like the way he comes off of
all people to rally around.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
And I'm gonna be serious about this.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
He ain't one of those great American stories where a
guy came from nothing, had everything against him. His dad's
a great former athlete. His dad is a Hall of
Famer in football and play Major League baseball. His dad
coached him all the way up to major college football.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
His dad he grew up rich. Really, that's the story
that you're so enthralled with.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
I'm sorry it's not an anti Chador Sanders, but let's
not make it bigger than it really is.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
That's my point.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
This is over the top, and I'm gonna be real
with you Kelvin there. I truly believe the reason that
people have gone on the deep end is they feel
that the man in quotes the man did something to
Shador because he was this confident black man. That is
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really what this is all about. Because all your draft
nicks and now all these draft people told you he
was gonna be the first overall pick.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
You ain't want to hear.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
The reporting that went into it that said that he
came to these meetings unprepared. Whatever headphone's on, not paying
attention whatever. You don't want to hear that you didn't
want to hear when.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
People said, oh, well, there was a memo in the
NFL called and told everybody, don't draft him. We're gonna
show this this young kids something at all and knock
them down the side. But when they did reporting, it
said that the Ravens called for him, the Eagles called for.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Him, and he said no, he didn't want to go
to those teams. So this whole notion is ridiculous. I'm
dead serious. I threw up, you want I laugh on
joke all the time. I literally threw up in my mouth.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
To hear him say that he's the most powerful man
than the Barack Obama, Well he said, since, yeah, since
really really? Okay, So let's start there first. I think
Perk was miss He's using the wrong word. If he
wanted to say hot ride controversial. Uh, maybe he has
the most support, which I still would agree with those
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but that's a conversation. But to use the term most
powerful black man a mary, that's crazy. First of all,
he's one one hundredth the power of Lebron James. It
doesn't even mass, it's not even in the same stratosphere.
He's one one hundred the power of Magic Johnson, Steph Curry,
Colin Kaepernick, because he says, since two thousand and nine,
Colin Kaepernick and the movement that he started going, I
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can go down and down the list. And that's just
the sports world, I mean, because you can keep going
with some other people's He's not even on the level
of still Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan's as far as powers, Michael.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Jordan's still sells sneakers like they're going.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
And looking what Magic Johnson has done so many things
on and off the courts now on the field as
a part owner of the Dodgers, part owner of the
Commander's uh, the stuff he does in the community you
live here in that like settle down perk. If you're
saying he's the taste of the moment the controversy, like mean,
if I go I'm team and Lightning Rodd and so
like I'm not Team Shador, then yes, but the idea
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of the most powerful black man in that perk, that's
disrespectful also to the people who not even are doing
things as your sports, that are doing things in the communities.
How you know, I could go on and on and
on so that that was that was crazy of perks
end on that end. Now, let's talk about a couple
of things you just mentioned. I do want to break
down the part of this that when you said and
(10:17):
me and robb G talked about this, people will say, well,
he like why him? Why is he the one you
rally around? He doesn't even have this story of like
the rags of riches. I think that's a part of
why some people will be slightly offended. They'll say, why
does the black story have to be he was a
single parent household. And I'm not saying and I'm not
saying that's the only story, but I'm saying that I
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think but I'm I'm but I'm saying I think people
enjoy that he's from his father's them, and they's enjoy
that there's some nepotism, like, yeah, why can't his dad
look out for his son? We've seen that happen literal
presidents of the United States literally, uh, you know, H W.
Bush to W.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Bush.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
And so I think that's not something I'm gonna push
back on you is on the player feel and you
play what I'm saying, I feel that that that's that's
really under the president of the United States can't go
on to practice and.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Playing because everybody plays, and they picked the best players.
And I'm gonna tell you why, okay, And this is
the point that I'll tell you why. All the white owners,
if they really wanted to, could say, I'm just gonna
put my son and white I live. We're in Boston,
or we're in uh Dallas, and I'm just gonna pick
white players and it's my team, and it doesn't matter
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who who's better, okay, Because that's what sports has always
been about, that it doesn't matter, like the best player
is going to get a chance to play. And once
you start playing with that, and I'm not saying that
your door deserved to play at all, okay, but I'm
saying that's what's different anybody. It ain't just so there's
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a lot there's a lot of players who I've talked
to who had to play it and do all they
could to make a.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Team and to see somebody just handed you're doing whatever.
I know this.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
I don't disagree that in a perfect world nepotism doesn't exist,
but that ain't the case. And so what I'm saying
to you is not I think there's a contingency of
people who see him and they so you say, why
is he the rally around because they see him as
he doesn't have to have the bad story they love
to report during a draft.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Oh his dad was in prison. He comes to the story.
I'm talking. I'm not talking about you. I'm saying story.
I'm talking about people.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
That's why people will say, you know, he has the
support cause people say he comes from a good home.
He comes from a father in the home, they who
loves her. That's not a championship. But no, that's why
a lot of people are supporting him because it's it's
a different story than the one that often is projected
the draft and that.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
But the reason that people don't the other part is
the arrogant there's a part and man.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
I'm glad, I'm glad they mentioned And a lot of
people in real time didn't like Muhammad Ali in real time,
it's lovable now. They didn't like him because he was
spoken in his confidence. He said what he said, He
said all this and he is knowing there's articulate and
charismatic as Muhammed Ali.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
But I'm saying, Muhammad Ali, now here we go what
I'm saying a lot of guys who are not like that.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
But what I'm saying is people some people don't like that,
and it's similar to white people. Rallied around Alan Iverson.
He wasn't perfect. He didn't say it all the time,
but Alan ivers authentically.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
I don't think Alison was ever of that.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Ilk I used to ask I was around Alan Iverson,
I was covering the league. I never felt that he
He was confident in himself, but I don't remember any
talking about himself.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
He had changed, he had braids, he think people.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
So I think there's a contingency of people who are
offended that people are offended by that, like, oh, look
at him, too confident, he's too cocky, and people say,
what's wrong with that? The young man believes in himself.
He said he ain't gonna fail. He does, shouldn't believe that.
They don't think that's because that is the other way
where no matter what he does, you could be confident
all that. When the reports came out that he wasn't
(13:55):
prepared of whatever, everyone totally are the people who are
in this camp.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
They weren't in the media. Oh yeah, yeah, they put
out a bath door.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
Yeah, well, I mean, obviously his father said that was
those were blatant lies. But those are blatant lies that
that that No, I'm answering your question. I do believe
you believe that everybody, different scouts and people, what a
story to make up. I believe sure that everybody Door
Sanders doesn't carry himself that the way in which they
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might look at franchise quarterbacks. Absolutely do I believe he
might have came in with some headphones on some ice.
Absolutely do. I think that would absolutely rough. Maybe he
was prepared. Absolutely, I don't know. And another point, what
would be the reason front of him? And I guess
the points off here up. And the other thing too
is that I also think that we have to This
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is one of those peculiar situations. Me and you have
talked about a many times to undermine the shock of
a quarterback, not a corner, not a linebacker, going from
projected possible first round maybe second to fifth. We've never
seen that. We talked about Aaron Rodgers to this. They'll
show it him. He had to wait and he goes
from should be a top ten pick to the twenty
fourth pick whatever it was, and that was a big deal.
(15:07):
So to have a guy that people have made careers
off of twenty and thirty and forty yet wrong, not
that wrong, Rob, what a quarterback?
Speaker 2 (15:13):
That's the point.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
And so it makes people go, well, what's up with that?
Speaker 2 (15:18):
That don't seem right?
Speaker 1 (15:20):
And you have don't see that, I don't see the
signature game he ever won in college.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
I'm gonna be honest. And I heard all the other stuff.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
He holds the ball too long. There's a lot of
the issues that they talked about. All the draft gurus,
no one had him near there. They had him first
and second and like an hour four maybe third. No
quarterback with the name like that has dropped to the fifth.
So it makes people become skeptical and unf you if
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we want to have this real honest conversation, Black people
in America have often had went through enough to make
people go, well, what's the real reason behind that?
Speaker 7 (15:55):
Even?
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Did you?
Speaker 4 (15:56):
So you're telling me in the league right where you're
trying to win and that he's a talent because if
they wanted to not have him in the league, they
don't have to draft him at all.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Would you agree with that? If there was something yeah?
In in this case, So why why would they even
draft him?
Speaker 4 (16:11):
And if and if the Cleveland Brown don't want them
to succeed, they don't have to play him.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
They didn't have to play him at all.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
They could have skipped over him because but I said,
because we're going this where and we're having supposed to
be If were gonna have a real n honest conversation,
there's absolutely reasons why black folks are skeptical when things
like that happen.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Would you give me that.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Whether it was where, whether it's what literally what happened,
or not, that they have not had enough to happen
that they go, well, that's weird that the one time
this kid's coming out and he goes supposed to be
a first round pick and he drops the fifth it
never happens. Right, quarterback, we're not a running back with
it comes out or not of quarter We found out
this kid was arrested a week before the draft.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
A quarterback, but that that's not happen.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
But here's my other issue, and here's my biggest pushback
to you. His mentor is a guy that people think
is one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time, Tom Brady. Okay,
so this is to you Okay, so tom Brady's a
part of it too, despite being his mentor.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Okay, that's what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Tom Brady's a part of it too, despite being his mentor,
despiting friends with his father, knowing his background, knowing where
it came from, looking at his talent. Tom Brady, whose
team is garbage with a bad quarterback, refused to draft
him because of some memo from the NFL.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
No, I didn't say that for Tom, So why didn't
he draft him? Because tom Brady's made horrible decisions. So
you just talked about it the last hour. But tom
Brady brought a guy is mental. I'll tell you why.
Because tom Brady is trying to win now. So he
brought in a quarterback who has a history of winning.
I mean a coach in Pete Carroll. Tom Brady quarterback,
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the quarterback winning Gino Smith had a history of winning
with Pete Carroll. Yes he did, and that's why he
brought those two wins. Because tom Brady was trying to
circumvent the rebuilds.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
And when it couldn't be another quarterback, he couldn't be the.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
Backup, he didn't want to bring in a young dude
who is probably gonna need some time to develop.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
That makes no sense, all right, eight seven ninety nine
on Fox.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
I think that's the biggest red flag is that Tom
Brady had no use for Schador.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Tom Brady was trying to win now, but you have
one quarterback on your roster. You already did have quarterbacks
on that road and come back stop?
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox. Why has Chador
said has become an athlete? Some people have blindly decided
to rally behind. We'll continue that conversation next with you.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
It is the adject you will turn to a lawyer,
your honor, that's the leader. Why is it blindly?
Speaker 2 (18:45):
College? Rob Parker, Kelvin Washington head, I'm on your head.
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call talking about your door in multiple facets.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Who we got MJ and Spokane. You're on the eye
couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up MJ.
Speaker 7 (20:19):
What's going on? What's going on?
Speaker 4 (20:21):
I got a bone to pick with you, Rob, Come on, man, wait,
wait a minute.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
I know you don't have your radio on. Do you
sold on?
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Now?
Speaker 7 (20:31):
I don't be You're.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
About to hang up on one second?
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Go ahead?
Speaker 7 (20:36):
Hey.
Speaker 9 (20:36):
The equivalent of Sads going in the fifth round is
the equivalent of Caitlyn Clark or Cooper Flag going in
the fifth round.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Says who says? Who says? Who? You don't know? You
don't devaluator, You're in an NFL scout. Come on, come on,
it ain't an exact science.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
You know why? And this is where MJ. I'll shout
you down. Tom Brady was a sixth round pick.
Speaker 9 (21:04):
And Tom Brady is a Caucasian, just like the theologians
in the Bible who conspired to make all the black
brothers in the Bible white dudes.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
No, I'm asking you.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Tom Brady was a sixth round pick. Joe Montana was
a fourth round pick. What are you saying it ain't
an exact science? Demark Uh?
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Who is it? Jus Russell? Yeah, JaMarcus R.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Was the first overall pick. They got it wrong. It
ain't an exact science. Who says it is. We ain't
never seen nobody go from first to fifth, is all
I'm saying. Or quarterback, we ain't never join that. In DC,
you're in the couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
What's up?
Speaker 9 (21:42):
How you guys doing?
Speaker 2 (21:44):
What's up? Jordan?
Speaker 9 (21:46):
I'm doing good? So I wanted to say off top,
I think I think I think Perkins, Kenrick Perkins was tripping.
But I will say Rob on the point when you
bring up Tom Brady, you know this better than anyone
who's to say a great makes a great gym? How
many great players did Michael Jordan passed up on when
he was Charlotte Hornet?
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Okay, But the only difference is, can I say this Jordan?
Speaker 4 (22:08):
The only difference Michael Jordan wasn't the mentor to any.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Of those players that he passed up on.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
And that's why it bothers me from the standpoint that
when you're somebody's mentor, somebody who's been a mentor, that
means I know your work, That means I work out
with you, that means I know what you put into it.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
Do you understand what I'm saying? It ain't just watching
taper film. I'm around you. I know what kind of
guy you are. I know how much you want something.
That's what bothers me.
Speaker 9 (22:41):
No, that's true, that's true. But based on how and
I'm not saying the door is gonna be anything great.
It take time to see. But based on how we
see the raiders being laying, I think I lean more
to the side of there. I don't know what Brady's
doing right now besides getting getting botox and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
You ain't like about that.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
We just you just saw some picture and we're like, man,
Tom ain't playing. He gonna keep this physique looking Chili.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Tim in Atlanta, you're in the YDD couple of Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
What's up, Chili?
Speaker 7 (23:10):
Well, I guess once again I'm gonna have to be
the black man with a voice of reason. So let
me say this real quick. First of all, Kendrick person,
Kendrick perkis is the reason why when stuff happens in
our community, people don't take us. We make dumb, moronic
takes like that, and we can't be taking sizens. Second
of all, Tom Brady is a man that has been
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in what two or three cheating scandons. Don't tell me
that man won't do what to take to win if
he thinks he can get ahead of it. One cheating,
so if he really thought that could really do it.
And then third thing didn't Jalen Carter Larry Uh the
guy that played in Miami with the smoke there was
on the marijuana bomb and the seat. Watson was out
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here assaulting women and they still got jobs. Don't kill me.
They you know, they'll take you the worst of the
worst movie.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Thank you, they have done it. Shawn. Let me chillie, chilli.
Let me let me respond a couple of things you said.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
Number one, I would hope that just hearing Kendrick Perkins
and then people would all of a sadden take people
correctly or you know, take them serious is crazy, just
off of base, off of Kendrick Perkins. And also you
mentioned Deshaun Watson getting it. That's because Shashaan Watson was
an MVP candidate, and we already know as long as
you ball in the NFL, they take it. Shadur was
in the NFL. He was coming out of the draft.
So that's completely app that's not apples in apples, that's
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apples and origin.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
But they drafted people with issues and and and damn
Marino dropped.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
What everybody thought, why did you draw? Body dropped to
the fifth? Did he not drop? Why did he drop?
Why did he drop? They didn't think he was the guy.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
No, they thought that there was some sort of substance
abuse something going on back in the day. And he dropped,
and he wound up being one of the all time.
But but but he did drop. He was supposed to
be the first quarter time, not to the fifth.
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Speaker 2 (25:15):
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Speaker 10 (25:17):
Thanks, thanks for taking the call.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
Listen.
Speaker 10 (25:19):
Relative to Shador Sanders, he does have that chip on
his shoulder, and the best thing that ever happened to
him might have been going in the fifth round, because
that gives him that pull yourself up by your bootstraps,
that underdog's framework, that that narrative surrounding him that he
can operate in. Let me tell you something right now,
Look this game between the Browns and the forty nine Ers.
Speaker 9 (25:42):
We got both sides of the.
Speaker 10 (25:43):
Spectrum, because on one side you have the kids in
the Midwest, mister brock Purdy, who's a man who believes
in well done is better than well said, and gets
all of the adulation because he's more quiet. And now
on the other side, you got your door Sanders is schwaszbuckling,
confident young man under Deon Sanders. That's gonna do it
my way of Frank Sinatra's perspective. So in terms of Shador,
(26:05):
if he goes out and shines against the forty nine
ers and they end up winning that game, then he
does need to have some respect put on his head.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
And if he bombs out and has three interceptions, then
what now what?
Speaker 10 (26:16):
Okay, Rob, to your point, now we can this is
what you're saying. Rob, Let's give him the same criticism
as anybody else.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
Absolutely, Let's not say it's the offensive line and he
doesn't have weapons and they're setting him up to fail.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
That's the conversation you have. When he doesn't play well
like that, that's that's that's what people are saying.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
That's the issue.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
That's that's where the Tim Tebow effect happened to Tim
Tebow and nobody wanted him around the opposition.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
The issue I would have with that, though, is that
we should be able to have intelligent conversations. That this
is his second start. That's good. If he plays bad,
meaning any rookie, including one of the greatest of all time,
Peyton Man, you're gonna have horrific games. You're gonna have
great ones. Like the idea that if you if you
have horrible at the horrible, the horrible at the horrible,
now we can have a conversation. But like, I fully
(27:04):
expect him to look bad another game or two the
rest of this sixth you know what I'm saying. Like
he's a rookie, He's gonna play I don't know the case.
It's like he played the Vikings defense and the Texans defense.
Do I expect them to go out there and like
them up for two fifty three hundred yards? No, Like
most grown dudes have been in the league ten years,
aren't so all of a sudden this rookie is.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Well.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
My my issue to you was when Judy dropped that
ball I got Texas.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
That was crazy.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
But I agree with you on that that you know idea,
like he's like I'm gonna drop this pass, so it
looks bad on him. First of all, Judy is playing
for a job. Get to what I'm saying. And this
is the people like, oh, Judy, you know. I'm like, dude,
really dropped the pass. It happens in the NFL. What
are we talking about? It was a terrible drive though,
like it was weird. Like Jamien in Georgia, he forgot
(27:50):
he has something to do. He was like, take the ball,
I gotta go do something. Damien and Georgia. You're in
the couple of Fox Sports.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Radio Canada, North North. Sorry about that. How are you, buddy?
Speaker 11 (28:02):
I'm good man, long time listener, first time caller.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Welcome.
Speaker 11 (28:08):
I just want to say Shador has all the talents
to be the first round. He should have never dropped
to the fifth round. And I hope he checks his
checklist of all the team that he beats, because he's
going to beat them. He's going to prove that he
is number one, should have been number one. He's got
the whole.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
You agree with that? Okay?
Speaker 4 (28:30):
And Damon, are you a scout? Did you play uh
in the NFL?
Speaker 2 (28:36):
No?
Speaker 11 (28:36):
I play sports though, but no, I'm asking you.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
I'm just trying to get your I'm trying to get
your backgrounds. You're so confident and that he should have
been the first overall pick. I'm thinking you must have
played in the league, or you're a scout or a
coach or something.
Speaker 11 (28:48):
I've been watching I've been watching Shador from his college,
and I could call raw talent one. The thing is,
I'm I'm a Philly fan. But what shouldor has done.
He has made other fans from other organizations rooting for him.
He has never seen a player done that.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
And that's what makes it remarkable. To your point, a
fifth round pick, nobody you know been in the country. Why, Yeah,
it might be a team that's invested, like a fan
base around the country. You got a lot of even shows, right,
shows are making their money off having these conversations about him.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
So it was a guy called Tim Tebow who was
very similar Tim Tebow.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
No matter what, and thanks for the call, Tim, that
fifth round pick.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
No, but Tim Tebow played awful, and people still they
didn't care. They did know that I was on first
take during that time, during that whole thing, that's where
skip and and the Tim Tebow and that whole thing
run with that exactly like turn everything around for skip
and the whole Yeah, you know what I mean, because
he latched on the Tim Tebow and they kept eighty
(29:50):
nine yards and but they would win the game because
because the guy kicked the field goal or whatever, and
and he rode with that.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
And I'm just saying, and it polarized a lot of people.
Speaker 4 (29:59):
Why are we talking about a quarterback who threw for
eighty nine yards?
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Seriously, it happens, and it should do.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
Is gonna be like that because he's a lightning rod
now because but by the way, that's why I said.
I think Perk was trying to say that because there's
no way he meant powerful. That's what he said power.
I know, that's crazy, person, and nobody there wasn't an
adult in the room. I mean that somebody was supposed
to be nobody, Like, can you explain what you mean?
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Do you mean this?
Speaker 4 (30:20):
Because powerful is crazy? But that but that's where no
kid who hasn't you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Can I give you just a little advice.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
If you hear that and there's no pushback, you should
probably turn that podcast off and get something else. I'm
just serious, Like you're sitting in a room someone brings
up Barack Obama, Chadeur Sanders, and they're comparable, like serious,
because you had a whole Colin kaeper and there just
sitting there. I mean just sitting there. But this is
what I'm saying about, got a whole twenty something year career.
(30:50):
Lebron is just sitting there all right, all the way.
One's gotta go little Thanksgiving edition. Specific is this bad
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Speaker 1 (31:55):
Five crowd is that when I'm planning at five even number,
figure it out.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
One's Gotta Go.
Speaker 6 (32:03):
This is supposed to be dub segment, but I took
it from him before the show started. I said, I
got an idea, We're gonna do this one instead. As
you all know, I was supposed to be bringing in
lobster mac and cheese for Have and Alex failure Thanksgiving
celebration tomorrow. Problem is, I went to Costco and they
was sold out and sold out nine.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
He just got in the build, Robins, I'll go to
claudelims VP. Don't get you nothing. There was a line
around the building. Apparently there's a lot of the like
they're giving away whatever.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
Yo should have went Ya should have went through Saga.
Rob Sager got the stuff he needed. He got the
big old gigantic apple pie. As somebody say that apple pie.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
My goodness. All right, all right, all right, some of
us trying to unbig our back so good. All right.
Speaker 6 (32:47):
So it got me thinking, guys, one's gotta go the
most popular ways to make mac.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
And cheese, all right? Number one?
Speaker 6 (32:55):
All right, talking about lobster mac or seafood mac either
one of those. No, lobster buff mac and cheese.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
That's becoming a thing.
Speaker 6 (33:04):
Multi cheese mac and cheese, people go, three cheeses, five cheese,
How many cheeses you want? The classic cheddar mac and cheese.
And last, but not least, the old reliable, boxed Kraft
type mac and cheese. Vo Vita mac and cheese, whatever,
instant mac and cheese. Sorry with you, Kevin Washington?
Speaker 2 (33:24):
This is easy. Yeah, I'm full of you right now.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
I was gonna say, wow, okay, in the black community,
mac and cheese is a staple, because I'm about to
answer this question. So with Thanksgiving, you must come right
with the mac and cheese. You don't ever, culture has
their thing, easy perk. That was funny, the easiest answer ever,
because nobody's made it better.
Speaker 11 (33:47):
Than my.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Craft.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
Gots to go so fast, I can't even believe it
was on the list. Wow, I thought I had the
answer until you added that one last.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
But man, get the heck out of here.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
Rich too long, I've never liked I respect mama.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
She's been making a real deal.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
No, no, no, everybody don't have a mom who can kill them.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
So that box is what people have lived off of,
and I'm not throwing that out.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
I'm serious. I'm gonna throw out the barbecue. That was
where I was going to. He said, that's where I
was going barbecue. Buffalo Buffalo Buffalo is good. It might slap.
I'm gonna lie, but I can't.
Speaker 12 (34:30):
I'm telling you with like chicken buffalo sauce, it's insane.
Speaker 6 (34:33):
Really, Mazi, you don't even eat meat, so half these
answers are bad for you.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Anyways, let me tell you that there should be no
seafood in mac and geese.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
What.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Absolutely not. You don't eat seafood either. No, nothing with
the face.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
Oh I forgot that, I know, but I can pop
the eyes off.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
No. Nothing that does not sound good. Buffalo mag and cheese.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
You talking about buffalo chicken, That's what I'm saying. That
sounds what I but it's without the chicken. It's just
a buffalo sauce. You can do it either way.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Either way. The point is that sounds like something I.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
Would round up the bones of the bottle, like, if
I had to pick one, I would not pick seafood
in my mac and cheese.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Alex, where are you? This is easy? This is easy,
easy mac just out of water.
Speaker 12 (35:21):
I feel like I feel like this was that energey
to bte me for your mac and cheese with Kelvin
where they were asking little Yanti about something and you
were like, pause, pause, little yachty, when were you broke lass?
You forgot what it was like to be broken box
mac and cheese. You peasants your mother.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
When he was in eastern Michigan broke. I like it
did well. This one's easy.
Speaker 12 (35:39):
I'm gonna say that some baked beans or something else.
Classic man, basic cheddar got so many times to spice
it up.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
I'm good, I'm good.
Speaker 12 (35:47):
So you don't like the basic game, You rather have
the three cheese, lobster three cheese.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Yeah, all right, robbed real easy lobster, Mac and cheese.
Gotta go. If I'm spending eighteen dollars a pound for lobster,
that's get back. Got to the ends right there, and
he didn't buy. That's why I made it. Gain the
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Speaker 2 (01:50):
Ah boom boom boom. Uh you want to step right there?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Right?
Speaker 4 (01:56):
That is that's hard right there? Where's my kango at
my is on to jumpsuit my uhdas boom boom? How
did that shoot not take off all of that song?
Because people but not quite like you like Nelly did
with air Force one that but you know why they're
(02:17):
uncomfortable the show ye it's their narrow right the show
tour would just I loved them their stylish agree, they're
still stylish to this day. It's like like four or
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don't don't change them.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
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Speaker 4 (02:40):
Also don't forget one's gotta go. We'll do that and
much more so. A lot of stuff uh going on,
rob g Uh Shador won his first start.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
It's the end of the world. He's the greatest thing
since light spread.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
We got to be putting extra sauce on it. We
were like, oh yo, he looked pretty good at a
good Ain't that ain't what it is? People gotta act
that ain't what it is the return of Joe Montana
because that's that's where we are.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Then you know what, I don't like that that's what
we are and that's the bad part. Like that's the part.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
He played perfectly fine. They won and that was it.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Ain't he didn't reinvent the position. All you gotta do
is listen to Kendrick Perkins was on a perk and.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
That tell that tells you, like like to hear that
that that tells you, my god, But really that's your guy.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Okay, you admit that, Rob G. What do you say?
Speaker 6 (03:36):
Well, Perk just nominated himself for the Hottest take of
the Year. And I don't say that lightly on this
show because rob had a few and Percha just blew
you right out of the water.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
At least mine a lot.
Speaker 6 (03:48):
Let him get this take off, Let him get take off,
and then you decide whether or not he was accurate.
Is Kendrick Perkins on the Legends Talk podcast talking about
Shader Standers on the heat of his first win as
NFL starter.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
Shadua Sanders is the most powerful black man since two
thousand and nine. You know what happened in two thousand
and nine, That's when President Obama got elected in office.
He's the most powerful black man since two thousand and nine.
You said you were sitting there watching the game in
(04:24):
your house and what you did ran? You ran with
the TV. Right, who was you doing, dB? You was
chaining like when Shadua Sanders is on the field. And
when I say powerful, powerful, because it's two sides of it, right,
think about it. Okay, you got the black community. He
bringing the whole black community together. I ain't ran across
(04:47):
one black person that then said one bad thing about
should do it. We won't even guess what we want
him because he has the balance. He has the balance
of that. I'm arrogant, but I'm humble too. Yeah, fun
with that, and he having fun with and on top
of that, y'all want me to say it, ain't y'all
want me to feel it, Ain't gonna have it. He's
(05:07):
the most powerful black man in sports, no other, no other,
matter of fact, black man. He the most powerful player
in sports.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Terrible, what a what an awful take by Kendrick Perkins.
An embarrassing take to equate a fifth round quarterback with
the first freaking black president of the United States in
a country where black people came over here and chained
as slaves. How dare you diminish Barack Obama and his
(05:38):
legacy to some damn football player.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Are you serious?
Speaker 4 (05:45):
I'm kelvin, I'm not even kidding. It is demeaning.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Really, that's your hot take that this dude matters more
and is the most powerful man than the first black
president of the United States. I don't think so. Any
any day of the week. You want to celebrate your door,
(06:12):
do it. You want to root for him, do it.
There are plenty of black people, I hate to break
it to you, who want your door Sanders fans, that's fair.
They could they have other quarterbacks that their fans off
or they don't like the way he comes off of
all people to rally around.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
And I'm gonna be serious about this.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
He ain't one of those great American stories where a
guy came from nothing, had everything against him. His dad's
a great former athlete. His dad is a Hall of
Famer in football and play Major League baseball. His dad
coached him all the way up to major college football.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
His dad he grew up rich. Really, that's the story
that you're so enthralled with.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
I'm sorry it's not an anti Chador Sanders, but let's
not make it bigger than it really is.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
That's my point.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
This is over the top, and I'm gonna be real
with you Kelvin there. I truly believe the reason that
people have gone on the deep end is they feel
that the man in quotes the man did something to
Shador because he was this confident black man. That is
(07:38):
really what this is all about. Because all your draft
nicks and now all these draft people told you he
was gonna be the first overall pick.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
You ain't want to hear.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
The reporting that went into it that said that he
came to these meetings unprepared. Whatever headphone's on, not paying
attention whatever. You don't want to hear that you didn't
want to hear when.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
People said, oh, well, there was a memo in the
NFL called and told everybody, don't draft him. We're gonna
show this this young kids something at all and knock
them down the side. But when they did reporting, it
said that the Ravens called for him, the Eagles called for.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Him, and he said no, he didn't want to go
to those teams. So this whole notion is ridiculous. I'm
dead serious. I threw up, you want I laugh on
joke all the time. I literally threw up in my mouth.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
To hear him say that he's the most powerful man
than the Barack Obama, Well he said, since, yeah, since
really really? Okay, So let's start there first. I think
Perk was miss He's using the wrong word. If he
wanted to say hot ride controversial. Uh, maybe he has
the most support, which I still would agree with those
(08:57):
but that's a conversation. But to use the term most
powerful black man a mary, that's crazy. First of all,
he's one one hundredth the power of Lebron James. It
doesn't even mass, it's not even in the same stratosphere.
He's one one hundred the power of Magic Johnson, Steph Curry,
Colin Kaepernick, because he says, since two thousand and nine,
Colin Kaepernick and the movement that he started going, I
(09:18):
can go down and down the list. And that's just
the sports world, I mean, because you can keep going
with some other people's He's not even on the level
of still Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan's as far as powers, Michael.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Jordan's still sells sneakers like they're going.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
And looking what Magic Johnson has done so many things
on and off the courts now on the field as
a part owner of the Dodgers, part owner of the
Commander's uh, the stuff he does in the community you
live here in that like settle down perk. If you're
saying he's the taste of the moment the controversy, like mean,
if I go I'm team and Lightning Rodd and so
like I'm not Team Shador, then yes, but the idea
(09:56):
of the most powerful black man in that perk, that's
disrespectful also to the people who not even are doing
things as your sports, that are doing things in the communities.
How you know, I could go on and on and
on so that that was that was crazy of perks
end on that end. Now, let's talk about a couple
of things you just mentioned. I do want to break
down the part of this that when you said and
(10:17):
me and robb G talked about this, people will say, well,
he like why him? Why is he the one you
rally around? He doesn't even have this story of like
the rags of riches. I think that's a part of
why some people will be slightly offended. They'll say, why
does the black story have to be he was a
single parent household. And I'm not saying and I'm not
saying that's the only story, but I'm saying that I
(10:38):
think but I'm I'm but I'm saying I think people
enjoy that he's from his father's them, and they's enjoy
that there's some nepotism, like, yeah, why can't his dad
look out for his son? We've seen that happen literal
presidents of the United States literally, uh, you know, H W.
Bush to W.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Bush.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
And so I think that's not something I'm gonna push
back on you is on the player feel and you
play what I'm saying, I feel that that that's that's
really under the president of the United States can't go
on to practice and.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Playing because everybody plays, and they picked the best players.
And I'm gonna tell you why, okay, And this is
the point that I'll tell you why. All the white owners,
if they really wanted to, could say, I'm just gonna
put my son and white I live. We're in Boston,
or we're in uh Dallas, and I'm just gonna pick
white players and it's my team, and it doesn't matter
(11:29):
who who's better, okay, Because that's what sports has always
been about, that it doesn't matter, like the best player
is going to get a chance to play. And once
you start playing with that, and I'm not saying that
your door deserved to play at all, okay, but I'm
saying that's what's different anybody. It ain't just so there's
(11:50):
a lot there's a lot of players who I've talked
to who had to play it and do all they
could to make a.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Team and to see somebody just handed you're doing whatever.
I know this.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
I don't disagree that in a perfect world nepotism doesn't exist,
but that ain't the case. And so what I'm saying
to you is not I think there's a contingency of
people who see him and they so you say, why
is he the rally around because they see him as
he doesn't have to have the bad story they love
to report during a draft.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Oh his dad was in prison. He comes to the story.
I'm talking. I'm not talking about you. I'm saying story.
I'm talking about people.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
That's why people will say, you know, he has the
support cause people say he comes from a good home.
He comes from a father in the home, they who
loves her. That's not a championship. But no, that's why
a lot of people are supporting him because it's it's
a different story than the one that often is projected
the draft and that.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
But the reason that people don't the other part is
the arrogant there's a part and man.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
I'm glad, I'm glad they mentioned And a lot of
people in real time didn't like Muhammad Ali in real time,
it's lovable now. They didn't like him because he was
spoken in his confidence. He said what he said, He
said all this and he is knowing there's articulate and
charismatic as Muhammed Ali.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
But I'm saying, Muhammad Ali, now here we go what
I'm saying a lot of guys who are not like that.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
But what I'm saying is people some people don't like that,
and it's similar to white people. Rallied around Alan Iverson.
He wasn't perfect. He didn't say it all the time,
but Alan ivers authentically.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
I don't think Alison was ever of that.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Ilk I used to ask I was around Alan Iverson,
I was covering the league. I never felt that he
He was confident in himself, but I don't remember any
talking about himself.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
He had changed, he had braids, he think people.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
So I think there's a contingency of people who are
offended that people are offended by that, like, oh, look
at him, too confident, he's too cocky, and people say,
what's wrong with that? The young man believes in himself.
He said he ain't gonna fail. He does, shouldn't believe that.
They don't think that's because that is the other way
where no matter what he does, you could be confident
all that. When the reports came out that he wasn't
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prepared of whatever, everyone totally are the people who are
in this camp.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
They weren't in the media. Oh yeah, yeah, they put
out a bath door.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
Yeah, well, I mean, obviously his father said that was
those were blatant lies. But those are blatant lies that
that that No, I'm answering your question. I do believe
you believe that everybody, different scouts and people, what a
story to make up. I believe sure that everybody Door
Sanders doesn't carry himself that the way in which they
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might look at franchise quarterbacks. Absolutely do I believe he
might have came in with some headphones on some ice.
Absolutely do. I think that would absolutely rough. Maybe he
was prepared. Absolutely, I don't know. And another point, what
would be the reason front of him? And I guess
the points off here up. And the other thing too
is that I also think that we have to This
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is one of those peculiar situations. Me and you have
talked about a many times to undermine the shock of
a quarterback, not a corner, not a linebacker, going from
projected possible first round maybe second to fifth. We've never
seen that. We talked about Aaron Rodgers to this. They'll
show it him. He had to wait and he goes
from should be a top ten pick to the twenty
fourth pick whatever it was, and that was a big deal.
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So to have a guy that people have made careers
off of twenty and thirty and forty yet wrong, not
that wrong, Rob, what a quarterback?
Speaker 2 (15:13):
That's the point.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
And so it makes people go, well, what's up with that?
Speaker 2 (15:18):
That don't seem right?
Speaker 1 (15:20):
And you have don't see that, I don't see the
signature game he ever won in college.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
I'm gonna be honest. And I heard all the other stuff.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
He holds the ball too long. There's a lot of
the issues that they talked about. All the draft gurus,
no one had him near there. They had him first
and second and like an hour four maybe third. No
quarterback with the name like that has dropped to the fifth.
So it makes people become skeptical and unf you if
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we want to have this real honest conversation, Black people
in America have often had went through enough to make
people go, well, what's the real reason behind that?
Speaker 7 (15:55):
Even?
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Did you?
Speaker 4 (15:56):
So you're telling me in the league right where you're
trying to win and that he's a talent because if
they wanted to not have him in the league, they
don't have to draft him at all.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Would you agree with that? If there was something yeah?
In in this case, So why why would they even
draft him?
Speaker 4 (16:11):
And if and if the Cleveland Brown don't want them
to succeed, they don't have to play him.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
They didn't have to play him at all.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
They could have skipped over him because but I said,
because we're going this where and we're having supposed to
be If were gonna have a real n honest conversation,
there's absolutely reasons why black folks are skeptical when things
like that happen.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Would you give me that.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Whether it was where, whether it's what literally what happened,
or not, that they have not had enough to happen
that they go, well, that's weird that the one time
this kid's coming out and he goes supposed to be
a first round pick and he drops the fifth it
never happens. Right, quarterback, we're not a running back with
it comes out or not of quarter We found out
this kid was arrested a week before the draft.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
A quarterback, but that that's not happen.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
But here's my other issue, and here's my biggest pushback
to you. His mentor is a guy that people think
is one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time, Tom Brady. Okay,
so this is to you Okay, so tom Brady's a
part of it too, despite being his mentor.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Okay, that's what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Tom Brady's a part of it too, despite being his mentor,
despiting friends with his father, knowing his background, knowing where
it came from, looking at his talent. Tom Brady, whose
team is garbage with a bad quarterback, refused to draft
him because of some memo from the NFL.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
No, I didn't say that for Tom, So why didn't
he draft him? Because tom Brady's made horrible decisions. So
you just talked about it the last hour. But tom
Brady brought a guy is mental. I'll tell you why.
Because tom Brady is trying to win now. So he
brought in a quarterback who has a history of winning.
I mean a coach in Pete Carroll. Tom Brady quarterback,
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the quarterback winning Gino Smith had a history of winning
with Pete Carroll. Yes he did, and that's why he
brought those two wins. Because tom Brady was trying to
circumvent the rebuilds.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
And when it couldn't be another quarterback, he couldn't be the.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
Backup, he didn't want to bring in a young dude
who is probably gonna need some time to develop.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
That makes no sense, all right, eight seven ninety nine
on Fox.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
I think that's the biggest red flag is that Tom
Brady had no use for Schador.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Tom Brady was trying to win now, but you have
one quarterback on your roster. You already did have quarterbacks
on that road and come back stop?
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox. Why has Chador
said has become an athlete? Some people have blindly decided
to rally behind. We'll continue that conversation next with you.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
It is the adject you will turn to a lawyer,
your honor, that's the leader. Why is it blindly?
Speaker 2 (18:45):
College? Rob Parker, Kelvin Washington head, I'm on your head.
Next next segment, stick and stay unless you are the
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On Fox, you heard our conversation. Uh, it's a lot
to get you, so you just get straight to the
call talking about your door in multiple facets.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Who we got MJ and Spokane. You're on the eye
couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up MJ.
Speaker 7 (20:19):
What's going on? What's going on?
Speaker 4 (20:21):
I got a bone to pick with you, Rob, Come on, man, wait,
wait a minute.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
I know you don't have your radio on. Do you
sold on?
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Now?
Speaker 7 (20:31):
I don't be You're.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
About to hang up on one second?
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Go ahead?
Speaker 7 (20:36):
Hey.
Speaker 9 (20:36):
The equivalent of Sads going in the fifth round is
the equivalent of Caitlyn Clark or Cooper Flag going in
the fifth round.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Says who says? Who says? Who? You don't know? You
don't devaluator, You're in an NFL scout. Come on, come on,
it ain't an exact science.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
You know why? And this is where MJ. I'll shout
you down. Tom Brady was a sixth round pick.
Speaker 9 (21:04):
And Tom Brady is a Caucasian, just like the theologians
in the Bible who conspired to make all the black
brothers in the Bible white dudes.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
No, I'm asking you.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Tom Brady was a sixth round pick. Joe Montana was
a fourth round pick. What are you saying it ain't
an exact science? Demark Uh?
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Who is it? Jus Russell? Yeah, JaMarcus R.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Was the first overall pick. They got it wrong. It
ain't an exact science. Who says it is. We ain't
never seen nobody go from first to fifth, is all
I'm saying. Or quarterback, we ain't never join that. In DC,
you're in the couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
What's up?
Speaker 9 (21:42):
How you guys doing?
Speaker 2 (21:44):
What's up? Jordan?
Speaker 9 (21:46):
I'm doing good? So I wanted to say off top,
I think I think I think Perkins, Kenrick Perkins was tripping.
But I will say Rob on the point when you
bring up Tom Brady, you know this better than anyone
who's to say a great makes a great gym? How
many great players did Michael Jordan passed up on when
he was Charlotte Hornet?
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Okay, But the only difference is, can I say this Jordan?
Speaker 4 (22:08):
The only difference Michael Jordan wasn't the mentor to any.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Of those players that he passed up on.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
And that's why it bothers me from the standpoint that
when you're somebody's mentor, somebody who's been a mentor, that
means I know your work, That means I work out
with you, that means I know what you put into it.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
Do you understand what I'm saying? It ain't just watching
taper film. I'm around you. I know what kind of
guy you are. I know how much you want something.
That's what bothers me.
Speaker 9 (22:41):
No, that's true, that's true. But based on how and
I'm not saying the door is gonna be anything great.
It take time to see. But based on how we
see the raiders being laying, I think I lean more
to the side of there. I don't know what Brady's
doing right now besides getting getting botox and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
You ain't like about that.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
We just you just saw some picture and we're like, man,
Tom ain't playing. He gonna keep this physique looking Chili.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Tim in Atlanta, you're in the YDD couple of Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
What's up, Chili?
Speaker 7 (23:10):
Well, I guess once again I'm gonna have to be
the black man with a voice of reason. So let
me say this real quick. First of all, Kendrick person,
Kendrick perkis is the reason why when stuff happens in
our community, people don't take us. We make dumb, moronic
takes like that, and we can't be taking sizens. Second
of all, Tom Brady is a man that has been
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in what two or three cheating scandons. Don't tell me
that man won't do what to take to win if
he thinks he can get ahead of it. One cheating,
so if he really thought that could really do it.
And then third thing didn't Jalen Carter Larry Uh the
guy that played in Miami with the smoke there was
on the marijuana bomb and the seat. Watson was out
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here assaulting women and they still got jobs. Don't kill me.
They you know, they'll take you the worst of the
worst movie.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Thank you, they have done it. Shawn. Let me chillie, chilli.
Let me let me respond a couple of things you said.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
Number one, I would hope that just hearing Kendrick Perkins
and then people would all of a sadden take people
correctly or you know, take them serious is crazy, just
off of base, off of Kendrick Perkins. And also you
mentioned Deshaun Watson getting it. That's because Shashaan Watson was
an MVP candidate, and we already know as long as
you ball in the NFL, they take it. Shadur was
in the NFL. He was coming out of the draft.
So that's completely app that's not apples in apples, that's
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apples and origin.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
But they drafted people with issues and and and damn
Marino dropped.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
What everybody thought, why did you draw? Body dropped to
the fifth? Did he not drop? Why did he drop?
Why did he drop? They didn't think he was the guy.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
No, they thought that there was some sort of substance
abuse something going on back in the day. And he dropped,
and he wound up being one of the all time.
But but but he did drop. He was supposed to
be the first quarter time, not to the fifth.
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Speaker 4 (25:12):
All right, Andre in Massachusetts, you're on the odd couple
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Speaker 2 (25:15):
What's up, Drake?
Speaker 10 (25:17):
Thanks, thanks for taking the call.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
Listen.
Speaker 10 (25:19):
Relative to Shador Sanders, he does have that chip on
his shoulder, and the best thing that ever happened to
him might have been going in the fifth round, because
that gives him that pull yourself up by your bootstraps,
that underdog's framework, that that narrative surrounding him that he
can operate in. Let me tell you something right now,
Look this game between the Browns and the forty nine Ers.
Speaker 9 (25:42):
We got both sides of the.
Speaker 10 (25:43):
Spectrum, because on one side you have the kids in
the Midwest, mister brock Purdy, who's a man who believes
in well done is better than well said, and gets
all of the adulation because he's more quiet. And now
on the other side, you got your door Sanders is schwaszbuckling,
confident young man under Deon Sanders. That's gonna do it
my way of Frank Sinatra's perspective. So in terms of Shador,
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if he goes out and shines against the forty nine
ers and they end up winning that game, then he
does need to have some respect put on his head.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
And if he bombs out and has three interceptions, then
what now what?
Speaker 10 (26:16):
Okay, Rob, to your point, now we can this is
what you're saying. Rob, Let's give him the same criticism
as anybody else.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
Absolutely, Let's not say it's the offensive line and he
doesn't have weapons and they're setting him up to fail.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
That's the conversation you have. When he doesn't play well
like that, that's that's that's what people are saying.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
That's the issue.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
That's that's where the Tim Tebow effect happened to Tim
Tebow and nobody wanted him around the opposition.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
The issue I would have with that, though, is that
we should be able to have intelligent conversations. That this
is his second start. That's good. If he plays bad,
meaning any rookie, including one of the greatest of all time,
Peyton Man, you're gonna have horrific games. You're gonna have
great ones. Like the idea that if you if you
have horrible at the horrible, the horrible at the horrible,
now we can have a conversation. But like, I fully
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expect him to look bad another game or two the
rest of this sixth you know what I'm saying. Like
he's a rookie, He's gonna play I don't know the case.
It's like he played the Vikings defense and the Texans defense.
Do I expect them to go out there and like
them up for two fifty three hundred yards? No, Like
most grown dudes have been in the league ten years,
aren't so all of a sudden this rookie is.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Well.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
My my issue to you was when Judy dropped that
ball I got Texas.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
That was crazy.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
But I agree with you on that that you know idea,
like he's like I'm gonna drop this pass, so it
looks bad on him. First of all, Judy is playing
for a job. Get to what I'm saying. And this
is the people like, oh, Judy, you know. I'm like, dude,
really dropped the pass. It happens in the NFL. What
are we talking about? It was a terrible drive though,
like it was weird. Like Jamien in Georgia, he forgot
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he has something to do. He was like, take the ball,
I gotta go do something. Damien and Georgia. You're in
the couple of Fox Sports.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Radio Canada, North North. Sorry about that. How are you, buddy?
Speaker 11 (28:02):
I'm good man, long time listener, first time caller.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Welcome.
Speaker 11 (28:08):
I just want to say Shador has all the talents
to be the first round. He should have never dropped
to the fifth round. And I hope he checks his
checklist of all the team that he beats, because he's
going to beat them. He's going to prove that he
is number one, should have been number one. He's got
the whole.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
You agree with that? Okay?
Speaker 4 (28:30):
And Damon, are you a scout? Did you play uh
in the NFL?
Speaker 2 (28:36):
No?
Speaker 11 (28:36):
I play sports though, but no, I'm asking you.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
I'm just trying to get your I'm trying to get
your backgrounds. You're so confident and that he should have
been the first overall pick. I'm thinking you must have
played in the league, or you're a scout or a
coach or something.
Speaker 11 (28:48):
I've been watching I've been watching Shador from his college,
and I could call raw talent one. The thing is,
I'm I'm a Philly fan. But what shouldor has done.
He has made other fans from other organizations rooting for him.
He has never seen a player done that.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
And that's what makes it remarkable. To your point, a
fifth round pick, nobody you know been in the country. Why, Yeah,
it might be a team that's invested, like a fan
base around the country. You got a lot of even shows, right,
shows are making their money off having these conversations about him.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
So it was a guy called Tim Tebow who was
very similar Tim Tebow.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
No matter what, and thanks for the call, Tim, that
fifth round pick.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
No, but Tim Tebow played awful, and people still they
didn't care. They did know that I was on first
take during that time, during that whole thing, that's where
skip and and the Tim Tebow and that whole thing
run with that exactly like turn everything around for skip
and the whole Yeah, you know what I mean, because
he latched on the Tim Tebow and they kept eighty
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nine yards and but they would win the game because
because the guy kicked the field goal or whatever, and
and he rode with that.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
And I'm just saying, and it polarized a lot of people.
Speaker 4 (29:59):
Why are we talking about a quarterback who threw for
eighty nine yards?
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Seriously, it happens, and it should do.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
Is gonna be like that because he's a lightning rod
now because but by the way, that's why I said.
I think Perk was trying to say that because there's
no way he meant powerful. That's what he said power.
I know, that's crazy, person, and nobody there wasn't an
adult in the room. I mean that somebody was supposed
to be nobody, Like, can you explain what you mean?
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Do you mean this?
Speaker 4 (30:20):
Because powerful is crazy? But that but that's where no
kid who hasn't you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Can I give you just a little advice.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
If you hear that and there's no pushback, you should
probably turn that podcast off and get something else. I'm
just serious, Like you're sitting in a room someone brings
up Barack Obama, Chadeur Sanders, and they're comparable, like serious,
because you had a whole Colin kaeper and there just
sitting there. I mean just sitting there. But this is
what I'm saying about, got a whole twenty something year career.
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Lebron is just sitting there all right, all the way.
One's gotta go little Thanksgiving edition. Specific is this bad
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Five crowd is that when I'm planning at five even number,
figure it out.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
One's Gotta Go.
Speaker 6 (32:03):
This is supposed to be dub segment, but I took
it from him before the show started. I said, I
got an idea, We're gonna do this one instead. As
you all know, I was supposed to be bringing in
lobster mac and cheese for Have and Alex failure Thanksgiving
celebration tomorrow. Problem is, I went to Costco and they
was sold out and sold out nine.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
He just got in the build, Robins, I'll go to
claudelims VP. Don't get you nothing. There was a line
around the building. Apparently there's a lot of the like
they're giving away whatever.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
Yo should have went Ya should have went through Saga.
Rob Sager got the stuff he needed. He got the
big old gigantic apple pie. As somebody say that apple pie.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
My goodness. All right, all right, all right, some of
us trying to unbig our back so good. All right.
Speaker 6 (32:47):
So it got me thinking, guys, one's gotta go the
most popular ways to make mac.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
And cheese, all right? Number one?
Speaker 6 (32:55):
All right, talking about lobster mac or seafood mac either
one of those. No, lobster buff mac and cheese.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
That's becoming a thing.
Speaker 6 (33:04):
Multi cheese mac and cheese, people go, three cheeses, five cheese,
How many cheeses you want? The classic cheddar mac and cheese.
And last, but not least, the old reliable, boxed Kraft
type mac and cheese. Vo Vita mac and cheese, whatever,
instant mac and cheese. Sorry with you, Kevin Washington?
Speaker 2 (33:24):
This is easy. Yeah, I'm full of you right now.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
I was gonna say, wow, okay, in the black community,
mac and cheese is a staple, because I'm about to
answer this question. So with Thanksgiving, you must come right
with the mac and cheese. You don't ever, culture has
their thing, easy perk. That was funny, the easiest answer ever,
because nobody's made it better.
Speaker 11 (33:47):
Than my.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Craft.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
Gots to go so fast, I can't even believe it
was on the list. Wow, I thought I had the
answer until you added that one last.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
But man, get the heck out of here.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
Rich too long, I've never liked I respect mama.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
She's been making a real deal.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
No, no, no, everybody don't have a mom who can kill them.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
So that box is what people have lived off of,
and I'm not throwing that out.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
I'm serious. I'm gonna throw out the barbecue. That was
where I was going to. He said, that's where I
was going barbecue. Buffalo Buffalo Buffalo is good. It might slap.
I'm gonna lie, but I can't.
Speaker 12 (34:30):
I'm telling you with like chicken buffalo sauce, it's insane.
Speaker 6 (34:33):
Really, Mazi, you don't even eat meat, so half these
answers are bad for you.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Anyways, let me tell you that there should be no
seafood in mac and geese.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
What.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Absolutely not. You don't eat seafood either. No, nothing with
the face.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
Oh I forgot that, I know, but I can pop
the eyes off.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
No. Nothing that does not sound good. Buffalo mag and cheese.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
You talking about buffalo chicken, That's what I'm saying. That
sounds what I but it's without the chicken. It's just
a buffalo sauce. You can do it either way.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Either way. The point is that sounds like something I.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
Would round up the bones of the bottle, like, if
I had to pick one, I would not pick seafood
in my mac and cheese.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Alex, where are you? This is easy? This is easy,
easy mac just out of water.
Speaker 12 (35:21):
I feel like I feel like this was that energey
to bte me for your mac and cheese with Kelvin
where they were asking little Yanti about something and you
were like, pause, pause, little yachty, when were you broke lass?
You forgot what it was like to be broken box
mac and cheese. You peasants your mother.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
When he was in eastern Michigan broke. I like it
did well. This one's easy.
Speaker 12 (35:39):
I'm gonna say that some baked beans or something else.
Classic man, basic cheddar got so many times to spice
it up.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
I'm good, I'm good.
Speaker 12 (35:47):
So you don't like the basic game, You rather have
the three cheese, lobster three cheese.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Yeah, all right, robbed real easy lobster, Mac and cheese.
Gotta go. If I'm spending eighteen dollars a pound for lobster,
that's get back. Got to the ends right there, and
he didn't buy. That's why I made it. Gain the
money
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