August 28, 2025 • 39 mins
FOX Sports Radio Weekend host Martin Weiss is in for Rob, and he and Kelvin tell us why the addition of Micah Parsons still won’t be enough for the Green Bay Packers to vault to the top of the NFC North, and explain how super agent David Mulugheta has basically taken over the NFL with his negotiation tactics. Plus, the Odd Couple Crew debates honeymoon vacationing in this week’s edition of Shop Talk.
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talk about the trade. Obviously you got Jerry and Stephen
Jones right now. Jerry ain't past the mic yet. He
is going in right now.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
I'll be honest, I'm looking at Steve and it's giving
a little bit of Jason Kidd, like I don't really
care to talk about this. Please look, I know I
gotta sit here, but ask the guy who did this.
Don't ask me. I'm here so I don't get fined.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
It's definitely given the like, dang, my life's been pretty
good with him being my father, but dang, it's one
of the days I want to put him in a headlock,
like I'm so tired of Pops. One of those days
you're just tired of Pops where you're just like, come on, Pops.
And also you gotta be a little bit of love
of him being like Dad, you ain't gonna trust me
to do the job fully, Like if there was a time,
(02:02):
if there was a time. Dude, you're eighty two years old,
and you know I ain't trying to operate with some agism.
But it's okay to just say, hey, son, here's the
baton going ahead. I'll be here, I'll consult. I'm here,
I'm still the owner, I'm the eldest boy. Yeah, look
this is mine, Come on, pops. But yet that's not
the case, and here we are. So I don't know
(02:23):
if he's ansaking questions right now or not, but Jerry's
been going at it since this thing started about fifteen
minutes ago.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
And we'll get some sound for the guys at that
in just a minute.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
But there's another side of that, and that is the
other side is the Packers gave up a couple of
first rounds picks, and that had been on the radar
Martin for about a week or so.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
It's been the reports that the Packers have been.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Interested in getting Micah in his surfaces. So a couple
of reason why this is interesting. One the Packers don't
like to pay a bunch of money to free agents.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Eh, okay, end table in comparison, yeah, because they go ahead, yes,
in comparison, yeah, in comparison to other teams.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
They don't typically spin like other teams do. And of
course historically they've had a bunch of success, so you
can obviously point. You can say, well, look we do
pretty dog on well doing things our way, so going
to get him. Another thing that makes us interesting for
the Packers is they're the younger, one of the youngest
teams in the entire NFL, and then they get a
guy who's only twenty six and he's still i mean
(03:21):
just really entering his prime and it can be a
remarkable force for them. So when you're the Packers, you're thinking,
you got your guys sold up, you got Jordan Love
by the way, signed to the same agent, and now
you got these two guys on the same team. We'll
talk about that a little bit later. You gotta be
feeling good and you're in the division where some people
say it's the Lions. Some people say, man, the Vikings
(03:41):
is gonna be right back where they were even with
JJ because the defense is too good. All he has
to do is manage it. Some people hiding the Packers,
some even have the Bears being much much better than
they were last year. When you look at that division,
to me, in this new signing of Micah. Do I
think it makes it difficult at times for the Lions. Yes,
that's the team I still feel who is the best
(04:02):
in the division, even with the acquisition of Micah. For
the Packers, I think the Lions. Yes, they lost some
coordinators big time. That's a big deal. I'm not gonna
belittle that. However, they didn't lose any core of that offense.
They still got Laporter, they still got the running back
combination that has been deadly for now a handful of years.
They still got Williams Jomo, they still got I'm around
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Saint Brown, who's one of the best safety blankets in
the entire NFL and can still score a bunch of touchdowns.
And I think they also have a Jared Goff who
was ticked off of how he performed in the postseason
against a rookie, and Jayden Daniels. So I still look
at and inleand your head coach too, who creates the
kind of the mantra, the vibe, the ethos of the team.
So I still look at the Lions as the team
(04:44):
to beat in that division. I understand J. J.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
McCarthy.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
I am not as high on JJ even though from
an Arburt Michigan not as high as other people are.
So to me, the Lions, this is yours to lose.
Do I think you go fifteen to two. No, you
may go back a couple of games thirteen or twelve even,
But I think it's their division. I think the Packers
did what they're supposed to do and trying to secure it.
And also think what they did with this Martin was say,
(05:10):
Jordan Love, we didn't gave you the bag. We didn't
got arguably one of the best one, two three defenders
in the league. This is your run to do what
your predecessors have done. Brett Favre got a ring, went
to a couple of Super Bowls. Aaron Rodgers a couple
of Super bowls, got one.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
This is your run.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
We got you the money early. We got a guy
on your on your you call like a record lay
who he's on you. You're saying an agent, We've got
some young talent around you who hopefully should be growing
and getting better.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
This is the run way.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Let's go. And I think they say, now you're in
your runway that we've done with Aaron Rodgers, we did
with Brett fav You're up.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
I think that this is definitely a bet on obviously
a big bet on Jordan Love, which the biggest bet
of Jordan Love was giving him all that money. As
you said, both of these players repped with David Mulagetti.
So obviously, when you have a relationship with an agent, Dallas, Jerry,
I know you're talking right now, but when you get off,
(06:10):
if you catch the podcast, when you have a relationship
with an agent, it's easier to get deals done.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
It's football GMing one on one.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
I know you've been there longer, Jerry, but you know,
sometimes fresh eyes can help see a scenario. But for me,
I had real questions about the other. To me, every
team in the NFC North has major questions. And it
was the best division in the NFC last year when
(06:39):
you look at the top of the teams, and then
even Green Bay when I only won one game in division,
but you know everybody would talk about them, was a
pretty good team. And then Chicago obviously dumpster fire last
year in terms of coaching and everything else, but promising
young rookie and Kayleb Williams, and you got a head
coach and Ben Johnson, who a lot of people are
(06:59):
very very very high on so reasons for you know,
optimism in Chicago. Although they would be like, if you're
just looking at the record, be like why the buy
one hundred bears? The Lions losing both their coordinators.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
To me is.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
This is the most important offseason in Lions history. This
has also been the most prolonged success the Lions have
had in thirty years, right, and this is the first
real time where you are paying the price for success.
So which kind of head coach is Dan Campbell? Is
(07:38):
the answer we are going to get this season because
to me, one of the things that completely is over
i mean underrated in Kyle Shanahan's career is his ability
to both hire and fire coordinators every single year when
they were really on their hot streak, really on their run,
he was losing passing game coordinators, offensive coordinators, defensive coordinators.
(08:00):
It didn't matter because Shanahan was continued to hire people
and he was like he kept hitting out of the park.
And the one time that they made the mistake at
defensive coordinator, they lost in the Super Bowl at overtime.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Okay, now, did it as a resulted in the Super Bowl?
Speaker 4 (08:14):
No, But there's a lot of teams Jerry Jones right now,
with trade a whole lot to have the success the
forty nine has had in the postseason over the last
five years compared to what he has. Are you the
forty nine Ers or are you the Eagles? The Eagles
lost both. They went to the Super Bowl, and everybody
says Jalen Hurts had a great game in that game.
He did have a fumble six in a game that
they lost by a touchdown, right, but they were still
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in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
A team that had a super Bowl level type of roster.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
They lose both their coordinators, fall off a cliff second
half of the season, one to nine, dog walked in
the playoffs, losing the wild card to Tampa, and then
all of a sudden boom, make the right hires again
in the Super Bowl, win the Super Bowl? Right now,
The forty nine Ers had some injury dis reprecies there too.
Lion should have everybody back. What type of coaches, Dan Campbell,
(09:05):
that's the answer that we get right here, because I
agree fifteen wins, I don't need to see that, but
I need to see a team that is still a
top of the NFC North because this roster, to me,
is the best in the NFC North Minnesota too many
questions at quarterback.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
I went to Michigan.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
I was clapping and standing on the table when they
ran the ball for the twenty seventh straight time against
Penn State. You know, Oh, I was just so excited
because that's just kin of football, a that I love
to watch.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
But also I thought JJ McCarthy put the ball at risk.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
I know he didn't throw a lot of interceptions Washton
Rose Bowl, Caleb down, Shoa and Shorter.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
That's a pick, Marcus May, that's a pick, right, he
would just overthrow easy pass. He just he wasn't a
we're jumping up the tenth to get that guy. I
think that's what was shocking for me. I think speaking
for you too, where nobody's saying he can't be a
late first round.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
All he did was win. But the jump up the
tenth was like, wait, did I miss something?
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Because I swear I thought I saw just about every
pass in his career. Did I miss something? So we're
gonna find out who he is.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
But one of the most interesting to me sliding door
moments in the last sliding door moments, where if one
thing went a little differently, the whole league would have
been in a different spot. Aaron Jones ran for like
one fifty something in that wildcard game when Green Bay
was Remember they were the first I believe seven seed,
(10:23):
the first extra wildcard team to win a playoff game.
They go into Jerry's world, they beat Dallas and Aaron
Jones runs all over them. The Packers let Aaron Jones
walk to Minnesota, make Jordan Love at that point the
highest paid quarterback in football, and Michael Parsons was on
that roster for Dallas and got crushed for being quote
unquote invisible in that postseason game. The Dak played terribly
(10:46):
as well. Jerry Jones today just said one of the
things that we needed to show up with we need
to be able to stop the run.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
And I know he's thinking about that game in this moment.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
And if you in fact think, if you're Jerry Jones,
and when you in fact think that Michael Parsons is
not worth this money, not worth this type of deal,
because even though there's a discrepancy in what he was
offered compared to what like ultimately so there was a
big gap of a five million dollars there, which is
pretty significant. But I again, if there had been, like
(11:17):
maybe just regular negotiations here, who probably could have found
a middle ground because Michael was his son advised to
stay in doubtas he said he wanted to stay Jerry.
I can't imagine Jerry's not thinking about those playoff games,
thinking about how Michael Parsons wasn't quite there. And if
he thinks that this is a massive overpay, then good
job by you. Because the Lions are going to be
really good in this division. The Vikings have a great roster.
(11:40):
And if they hit on this quarterback and they Kevin O'Connell,
depending on how you you listen to him saying, oh
I love the quarterback.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
You look at the auf Steason moves.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
He was on the phone with every other quarterback and
seemed so see how it actually plays out. And then
you have the Packers like and then you have the
Bears rather who just hired Ben Johnson and they expect
to have a lot of success. This might be a
team that gets beat up in the division regardless of
what they did.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Well, they're gonna get beat up regardless to me.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
I've already told Rob g that I think the Commanders
are going to be right about the same back.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
And so know what I'm saying, the Packers might be
a team that get beat up in their division. If
everything the way the NFC North plays out, you might
have got some pretty high first round picks.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Here just in general.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
And you know, and I'm not saying I don't think
they're gonna have a terrible year, but no, I picked
the Packers to be third.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
In the in the North. Probably still third in the North.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
They're nine and eleven games to me, somewhere around there
between nine and eleven. The thing that I think also
helped Jerry sleep at night tonight is that he can say, well,
look at the other guys who've gotten paid in that
same you know type of position, TJ Watt, Well, TJ,
what have you done for me lately?
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (12:42):
That's I know that's coming today. They haven't done anything
in the postseason with TJ Watt. They haven't won a
game eight nine years. Miles Garrett got all the money,
hasn't really done anything. I know they got one with
Joe Flacco. But point is it's not. Their perennial defense
isn't great. They're always in the postseason. So I think
that's one thing that Jerry Jones. When he hits that
melatone in the night and he sleeps good, he's going
(13:03):
to be able to say, man, I know he's good.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
I know he's great.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
But one defensive end, you know, outside linebacker, doesn't change
the game like this. He ain't Lawrence Taylor. That's Crosby
and Max Crosby spectacular. Everybody wanted him to get traded
last season. Go to it to the Lions, you know,
because they were hurt with a Hutchinson. So I think
that is something he can sell himself and say, great
(13:27):
as these guys are, they're not making that much of
a difference. And those types of guys really only make
a difference when they become kind of the hit man
for hire. And we'll talk about that a little bit
later on. Just some teams that maybe could have jumped
in there as well. All right, so let's do this, Mark,
Let's take a break eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
We haven't opened it up. Let's open it up.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
And also when we come back, you'll hear some of
what Jerry had to say and his thoughts towards Micah
and how why he handled the business the way he
did so we'll do that. Eight seven seven ninety nine
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Speaker 1 (15:20):
Yeah, couple, Kelvin Washington, Martin Wis who's in for Rob Parker?
Robin joined some time. You think he's just sitting there
having a little Mattaire or something and completely doesn't notice happened?
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Or is he peeking in? What do you think? Oh?
No chance he knows this happens yet? Really? Oh yeah,
I don't think because Rob's I don't think he's lot.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
Look he's not. He's on vacation right now. So you
might be at a baseball game. Where is he in Hawaii?
He's Hawaii? Yeah, Okay, So there's no baseball game there,
so there's nobody to take pictures with.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
No so his song is probably back in the room.
He'll find this out in a couple hours. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
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The white tire buying should be Jerry ain't past to
my guest Steven just sitting up there. I don't even
know how if he ain't fall hasn't fallen asleep yet.
So let's take a few phone calls. I want to
hear from you about this trade. Eight seven, seven ninety
nine on Fox. Let's go to two cities. Let's go
to Orlando. Who's in El Paso, Orlando? You're on with
the oct couple Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 8 (16:29):
Hey, guys, it's heartbreaking guys, Jerry Jones, at eighty two
years old, was found alive and well in his home today.
Speaker 9 (16:36):
My goodness, who getting bad, man, that's just getting bad.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
So let me show what about this to you? Orlando?
Speaker 4 (16:50):
I am I don't know a Mavericks fan as well,
but obviously Cowboys fan.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
What's the worst part about this to you?
Speaker 8 (16:58):
I think when you break it down, it's failing to
get the Mica deal done. It's about pride and eagle
for Jerry. They're destroying the current team because this is
going to affect them all the team and then they
send them to the team that literally run rush all
over you back in that playoff game. People don't remember that.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
No, we make sure we tell him, Rob and I
we make sure we tell him that beat down right there.
They definitely heard that from us, Orlando. Thank you for
the call, brother, appreciate it. Let's go to New Jersey.
Let's go to Drew and New Jersey. Drew, you own
the couple. Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
Hey, guys, I love the trade. I think that they
can finally get out of the above. Playing out of
your draft position quarterback because if you look at it,
Tony Romo was undrafted he ended up being a top
twelve quarterback in the league when he played. Same thing
with Deck. But I think the reason why he has
not won a Super Bowls he doesn't have the ma homes.
(17:51):
He doesn't have a Josh Allen. I think this gives
you capital to get like a Leonora Sellars at South Carolina,
or go trade that pick moved down in a couple
of years, get Bryce Underwood in Michigan. I think they'd
be better set it up. And I feel like it's
low hanging fruit to go after Jerry Goods. I think
let's look at the Bengalos owner. I mean, I think
(18:12):
he uses coupons to play his players.
Speaker 10 (18:15):
Well.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
The only let me the real quick mark.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
The reason why I hear what you're saying about Jerry,
But the reason I'm going after Jerry's because you've been
selling me for thirty years. The most important thing is winning.
And that's the point. And I'm saying, now you've just
what everything you just mentioned, Drew, thank you for the
call is futuristically speaking. You just mentioned Underwood in Michigan.
He a true freshman, so like, okay, a couple of
years down the line, and my point is Jerry wants
(18:37):
to win while Jerry's still with us, and Jerry's still
able to enjoy it, and you just set yourself back
a couple of years. To me, that's why I'm blaming Jerry.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
But if I may to the caller's point, I think
his point is, Jerry's not afraid to cut a check, right.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Jerry was not afraid to cut that check for Dak.
He was not afraid to cut that.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Check for CD Limb, because if he was, he wouldn't
have We see today, Jerry Jones is not a man
who's gonna do something he clearly doesn't want to do, right.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
He was good enough to make those deals instead.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
I think he even admitted afterwards in the in the
like the aftermath post game or post contract signing of
Dak Prescott saying, you know that kind.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Of got me on that one. You got me a
little bit on that one. But Jerry, to pardon the punt,
enjoys the art of the deal, right.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
And the thing that I agree like Mike Brown's never
was never going to pay Trey Henders here for twenty
twenty six. It was never gonna happen. He's not because
just fundamental, I'm not paying a thirty one year roles.
I don't think Jerry has that same heart and fast rule,
which to me finds you the most fascinating because I
think this deal could have gotten done.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
For so much less that it Actually that's the crazy part.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
But I think to Jerry to quote trade two years
ago when his team came to him and say, hey, man,
you know we might want to trade Mike and now
get what we can for him, And he said, no,
So you didn't want to trade for him, then you
didn't want to sign him. You might have been able
to set the market if you signed him first, before Miles, Gary,
before TJ. Why like there was too many variables and
too many options for this to be where you are,
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or you trade them right before the draft gets some
guys now that can maybe help you this season.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
And I mean Michaeh said as much. He said, I
went to them and they said it wasn't my turn.
I went to them again, they said it wasn't my
turn because he was trying to take this quote unquote
team friendly, cap friendly deal which would have been top
of the market at the time. But again it's top
of the market now. But you know, as soon as
you buy your house, the house next door price goes up. Right,
So all of these prices was of the brick was
(20:28):
just going up. But to Jerry's point, and to the
caller's point, you can't be mad at Jerry today if
you didn't think that you should have paid Michael Parson,
if you still you should have traded Michael Parses last year,
like last year was last year. And it may have
been the wrong decision. But if it's a lie, we
fight on that lie. And these are the chips we
(20:49):
have today. And if you gambling, you can't think about
what you had twenty minutes ago because you ain't got.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
It no more for them some off brand chips.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
If that's chips we have, you ain't dealing with no
freedo A's he ain't no de ritom ships is off brand.
Tell you we'll do one more real quick. Kevin and
Culver City. Kevin, you're on with the odd couple Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 9 (21:07):
God, it's good all the time. Ross probably at food
Land of supermarket in and now we're probably performing their
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Speaker 1 (21:17):
You think they got a comedy club out there doing
a little stand up about that too.
Speaker 9 (21:21):
I know that's that's my that's my second hood. Okay,
look you're actually you're actually talking, you're actually talking an
exclusive Packers owner. I'm a Packers owner.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
The trade. Nice, congrats.
Speaker 9 (21:33):
So so we made a big trade today. Here's what
the Packers are getting. I got my little you know,
my one share. But here's what we here's what we're getting.
We're getting inferior defensive in as Russia in the game
right now. And when the Packers do that, they went
Super Bowls. Reggie White, Brett Farm, Clay Matthews, Aaron Rodgers,
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Nika Parsons, Jordan Love, the Packers. We believe in Jordan Love.
This is why this trade was made. I think Matthew
Golden I heard his chearing up camp, the Packers leaders
who legit shot to win a Super Bowl with Josh
Jagerson running back to the defensive short up now with Mika,
they're going for it. This is a Super Bowl run.
So now gota aggressive.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
That is absolute fact because that's a team that right
now after Kevin, thanks for the call.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
I agree with you one thousand percent.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
You want to talk about America's gambler and Mike Silver
just wrote this in the New York Times.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Check him out as well.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
The packers, essentially they put all the chips in the
middle of the table because they now have Jordan Love
being paid as much as he is, Michael Parks is
being paid as much as he is, and they don't
have any.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
More two first round picks gone, just gone.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
Like they're the ones who pushed all their chips into
the middle of the table, and we'll see how it
plays out for them.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
We will more on this in just a minute. Right
now it is Manci Belanjo is gonna get you updated
right now with trending.
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front of me, so I'm sure he's putting in some work.
Shout out to Elijah as well. Do we have anything
new from Jerry?
Speaker 3 (23:44):
We still what we do.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
All right, let's here, let's hear a little bit what
Jerry had to say. This is about Micah and was
it personal or not.
Speaker 10 (23:53):
I really like Michael. I appreciate the years four years
that we've had him here, and he's he's a great player,
and so we are very appreciative of the fact that
he's a great player. Uh. There's no question that I
could have signed him in April, and so, UH we
(24:18):
all know that to have agreements, all parties have to agree.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
But this was by design.
Speaker 10 (24:29):
Uh. I did uh make min offer. Uh it wasn't acceptable. Uh,
And I honored the fact that it wasn't done in
the way that he wanted to do it through an agent,
so he was made an offer. There's not an ounce
of vindictiveness. There's no bad feelings on my part about
(24:55):
the fact that we didn't come together on an agreement.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
I actually believe that it isn't personal.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
I think when you've been doing business now as he
has for I don't know, fifty fifty five years, whatever
it may be, I absolutely think he can look at
the person understand when we're going to war negotiating. I
might say something a little reckless. You might say some
little reckless, but that's just part of the game. I
think he actually enjoys it. I think he enjoys kind
of the you know, the back and forth and the
(25:24):
jousting and what it takes to get a deal done.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
You mentioned, you know, Donald Trump Art of the Deal.
But I think he just enjoys it. He didn't trademark.
He's I know, and he makes sure we know about
it once every quarter.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
You know.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
I wrote this book, The Art of a Deal. Bible
are the best book ever. It's well the Bible is
the second two Art of a Deal that was one
of my favorite lines. So I'd say I think Jerry
absolutely I think if he were on the phone with
Mike in a week, I absolutely believe he would be like, Yo, man,
ain't nothing personal. Yo, you and Dallas come to stop
by the crib. We'd love to have you for dinner.
Like I think, he just understands he's been doing this
(25:58):
too long.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
This is a part of it.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
It is what it is, and I hate to see
him go, but I got to do what I have
to do with He believes his best for the Cowboys
at this time today, at this moment, and that's what
he did. I do not think it's personal for him,
and I think that's just a part of what he's
been able to. When you're in the game so long
and you've made so many deals and good or bad,
get your favorite guy, not your favorite guy, you get
used to this, and the idea that he might be
(26:24):
able to use something with these first round picks is
a real thing. I mean, again, why wait much longer
if you're if you're if you're Jerry, Because you know
Jerry's getting up there at age, he's eighty two years old.
I don't want to wait two, three, four more years
so maybe he will be able to use these picks
and come up with a guy or two defensively that
can get right back there and help him, because that's
gonna be the issue.
Speaker 10 (26:42):
Man.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
You can't rely on that offense. Offense is not that spectacular. Uh,
You're gonna have to have some defense again. And they're
knowing here as explosive as the Bengals, and the Bengals
have struggled the last couple of years with the bad defense. Well,
I think Jerry's point is kind of the one we've
heard from Jay Z said, people saying they made ho, okay,
make a up.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
I drafted Michael Parsons. I'm the one that scouted, Like
all these other.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
Players got drafted ahead of him, got paid, all those
teams passed on Michael Parsons.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
I'm the one that found him. I'll find another.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
I sure it's not personal between he and Michael Parsons whatever,
but I think it is personal between he and David Mullaghetta.
And I think I am just a gas bag on
the radio. I'm not in Dallas, I'm not reporting this.
But if you go back and just pay a little
(27:31):
bit of attention to the Pablo toy reporting about what
happened with the NFLPA and Lamar Jackson's guaranteed contract or
lack thereof, It all stems back to one deal, Deshaun
Watson getting the most guaranteed money ever. Who is his agent,
David Mullaghetta. David Mullagedtta operated with that deal. Jerry Jones
(27:53):
is old school NFL and we I'm not speculating this.
It's been reported that Michael bids Well and Steve Bushatti
were sitting texting back and forth saying, what in the
hell is going on here? They're paying DeShawn Watston fully
guaranteed money? What does that mean for my guy and
my guy? And you know what it meant for Jerry's guy.
It meant that Jerry had to cut a sixty million
(28:15):
dollars on my check for Dak Prescott. With the no
trade clause, that contract would not necessarily have been that
prohibitive if DeShawn Watson didn't get his the idea that Jerry,
who has been Jerry's wonting the founding pillars of the
not founding. But at this point pillars of the league
could not have felt good about the fact that now,
(28:37):
wait if y'all, cause the argument for fully guaranteed it.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Has always been there. It's always been there.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
And the thing about David mullaghetta, he he's the guy
that gets these headlines watching most guaranteed money ever Jordan
Love tied Joe Burrow and Trevor Lawrence and with biggest
signing bonus and is up there and all and average
annual value. He reset the cornerback market. David Mullagetter reset
(29:05):
the cornerback market three times in one offseason, twice in
one offseason. But he got Jalen Ramsey twenty four million dollars,
j C. Horn twenty five million dollars, Dereck Stinglely thirty
million dollars all average annual value. Every time this guy
makes a deal, it is one of those. And this
guy is the highest paid disc or the highest paid
day he gets the deal done. But when you look
(29:28):
at these teams, look at the teams that he's gotten
these deals done since DeShawn Watson his green Bay twice.
You know what, green Bay doesn't have an a traditional
owner right Cleveland Jimmy has them who has been desperate
fawning over a quarterback so badly that right now the
reports are depending on how you feel about Shador Sanders.
He went back in there and said, no, take a
(29:49):
fifth route quarterback too right, and then his answer questions
about arts Manning right. Literally, the most desperate can be.
Houston had an ownership changeover the bob Ing there passed
away ownership changeover Carolina J C. Horn, Jerry Richardson sold
the team, David Temper new owner, and then you know
(30:09):
Calvin Rilly, you know some of the but those are
the big deals. When you look at those big deals,
you know who they're not done with is guys are
let's just say, ownership groups that have been in in
play for longer than like five ten years.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Well, you're not making those moves against guys who feel
like you're not gonna come in here and outdeal me.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
You're not gonna make me out here to be the
small guy in this.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
And you Knoway, you keep saying his name and I'm
calling him Moulah get a cause he's getting all the
moulah for all these guys.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
I mean, that's what he's doing, and that's what a great.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Agent does, which is why I kept telling Michah earlier
stop talking about I mean I want to play. I
don't care about money. I just you can feel that way.
Call me if I'm David mula Getta call me two am.
Wake the phone. I'm just whispered and sweeten, nothing's to me.
Don't tell that to the public, because I can get
you the money and I can keep you in Dallas. Ultimately,
it didn't work, but that was what an agent it's
(30:58):
supposed to be doing. So David Mullagetta is doing he's
supposed to do similar to you looking like Scott Boris
in the MLB, Right, that's the guy you go to.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
You know you're about to get paid.
Speaker 10 (31:10):
You know.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
We had him on the show Rob and I Feel
on a few months back. He kind of explaining the
way in which he does it, and it's just you're
just blown away with the way he's like, no, the
way that put it up here, and we Taelor players
and we show them the numbers, and we go to
the teams and say, if you look at the average
of the ten years, it's a math. It's a science.
That's why you sign him. So you say, I'm gonna
be paid because I've gotten this guy. And David mula
Getta has become that for the league as well. Go ahead,
(31:33):
just real quick say ultimately mula ghetta whole thing was.
I mean, Michael Parsons came up with that big long
notes app and you never go full notes app.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
It said, I want to play.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
I'm paraphrasing I wanted to be in Dallas, and you
went through the agent every single time. And Jerry said,
we had an agreement, but all parties have to agree.
And then he said we couldn't get it done the
way he wanted to do it. Jerry is what the
NFL Sheba says, you have to do it like this.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
This is the way that he is.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
Jerry Jones has done every other deal that he has
ever done. You have got to get an agent to
sign off on this at every step of the way.
The idea that Jerry is acting like this was some
one off is our shooting star type scenario is laughable.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
That's ridiculous. And to me, that's the.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
Through line is the entirety of this time. Jerry said
to offer him a deal, Michae saidn't wanted to be
a cowboy. The issue Jerry didn't want to negotiate with
this guy. And I think the question that we should
be asking once we talk about what's just me for
the cowboys, what's mean for the package?
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Just why why didn't Jerry want to negotiate with him?
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Because there and he doesn't want someone bigger than these owners.
He doesn't want somebody that is bigger than your dagner
up there with the commission, if you will, And an
agent can get like that where anything I want is
gonna happen like it might's touched. Anything I touched is
gonna turn the coat golder in this case, you know,
straight cash homie, is.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
He actually well, are we gonna do shop talk?
Speaker 1 (32:58):
I'm just just jump out the because we were talking
about doing but we gonna still do that because this
kind of just transpire.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
So let's do this.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
We'll cleanse our palette a little bit. Somebody in here
just got married, so congrats to you. We're gonna talk
a little marriage and all things. What just happened to
you a couple of weeks ago. We'll do that little
shop talk and we'll get right back to this and
we'll have some more sound from what Jerry Jones had
to say from that presser. It is the odd couple.
Martin Weiss and for Rob Parker Kelvin Washington on a
(33:25):
Jerry Jones then Lost Micah Thursday.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
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Speaker 1 (33:41):
One day, Micah and Jerry Jones will be friends again.
Since we're listening to friends right here on this TV
theme song Thursday, let Jerry tailors that day is still today? Yeah,
I mean listen, I told you I don't think he
I don't think stuff is overly personal with him. I
mean I think he's been able to just I gotta
do what I gotta do. This is what I feel
is best, and that be that. It is The Odd Couple.
I'm Kevin Washington, He's Martin Whissa and for Rob on
(34:03):
this TV thing. So on Thursday, aching stiff back joints
not cooperating. Some days your body is like uh uh.
And on those days, thankfully there's a leave with just
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of painting and relief so you can keep moving. Use
as directed it's time not for shop Talk more Micah Parsons.
Trade Talk coming up in about ten minutes. But first off,
(34:26):
Martin whis just got married, clapping.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Up every here.
Speaker 11 (34:28):
Whatever, Martin, you, thank you, thank He's got a fresh
France glow about him because he just got back from
his honeymoon.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Yeah, look, you got the ring out here in these streets.
I know, his hands all heavy, can't even as two
married guys over under four months before he has his
first scare. He thinks he lost it, oh under under, Oh,
I thought I lost it ten minutes, two hours, never mind,
have to wash that big on the under.
Speaker 11 (34:55):
So Martin just got back from honeymooning in Europe, and
that led to an obvious question we had here for
the show for shop Talk. The plan was for you
to go to the south of France right for your hut.
So the oh you didn't stay in the south of France.
I always say the plan went off without a hitch.
So this was the plank. But this was my first
time in Europe. I crossed the Atlantic before, but I
(35:16):
went to Dubai.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
That's all the way outside the world.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
Europe, you know, a lot closer to the United States
and kind of the vibes of everything. But we went
to Nice, then we went to Provence. Then we went
to Rapallo, Italy, then Porto Fino, Italy, and then Florence, Italy.
Because apparently if you go to Europe, it's illegal to
sit in one place for a long five days straight
(35:39):
like that kick you out. And so my biggest question
is just like how much traveling are you supposed to
do all on vacation, because I.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
Feel like I did.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
I had a great honeymoon. I love my wife, we
were on it, I was. I spent so much time
on trains, planes and automobiles. That is just it's insane.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
It's insane. Yeah, you traveled, you didn't go on vacation.
Yeah yeah, No, vacation has an island in it, and
then you don't leave the spot.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
You didn't when you travel Europe, Yes, parts of Asia,
you're not going.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
You're you're traveling.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
We're here, we're exploring, you're learning, learning. You go to Hawaii,
you're Rob Parker right now, you go to Jamaica. That's
make the Caribbean Caribbean, you're on vacation, right. That's why
I want to argue Caribbing Caribbean.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
You know what I'm saying. That's why.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
Yeah, those are my like vacation debates. Now, don't get
me wrong. I had fun, went to the Leonardo da
Vinci Museum.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
I saw David. It was just also saw a lot
of train. I saw a lot of plane. They're gonna
speed train you to death. I would just take the
fast train, speed train whatever, that's nothing to it. That's
what they call it. The fast train. Yeah, that's the
fast train. Shows.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
Oh god, please are the slow train. It's all fast training.
So yeah, I've been to Europe now twice and one
trap was similar, right. We went to Geneva, Berlin, Paris,
and I'm missing one more one more sit I can't
remember on the top of my head.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
But if it was what you said, bow two three
days both yeah, boom boom boom.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
And that's just what you're doing Europe, which is also
cool because then you're knocking off places.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
That's just what you're do in Europe. That's just what
you're doing in Europe. Did too, I did this.
Speaker 12 (37:19):
I went to Germany, landed in at Munich, was in
English shop Munich, then went to London, then went to
Italy and Rome, and I also spent too much time
on trains and planes and a short amount of time
robu two.
Speaker 10 (37:32):
Oh.
Speaker 11 (37:32):
I've been that trip plenty of times, and I will
say we're talking about before the show. The flip side
to that is, Hey, you go somewhere, you stay there,
You don't do anything right, You just kind of exist.
So when I went to Greece, you went to Sanserini
and out. If you ever been to Sanserini, no, but
it's one of those seasonal vacation places, so when it's
off season, there is nothing to do. There's one restaurant
(37:53):
you can go to, and one restaurant at the bottom
of the hill, and there's like four shops.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
So we were there for five days. By day three,
I'm like, I'm ready to go. Yeah, on Netflix in
bed all day.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
Part of the problem is because you was traveling around
like you on the room from the police.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
You're picking up every two days, three days. You know,
the human bodies that meant to do that you tired.
I don't know if they sit down to doing for
eleven days. I didn't leave, you said in Europe, but no, no,
you're pretty big girls.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
I was in London, so I did London, then went
up to Sheffield for a couple of days and then
came back to London.
Speaker 6 (38:23):
But then you also got sick, but you were people
I got yeah, and you were there seeing family and people.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
Yeah, well I.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
Just the next time somebody tells me, oh, it's so close.
Everything is so close. Yeah, okay, cool. It's like the
distance between LA and San Diego, which is sure, it's close,
but you know what, I'm.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Not doing going to La. I'm not going to San
Diego every other weekend. But you know who is what?
People from Europe they're coming here to going to La.
They're going to Vegas, they're going to San Diego.
Speaker 11 (38:56):
We're going to Disneyland on Thursday, seer World on Friday.
It gets straight up on Saturdays.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
Because they're used to that stuff. That's what they do
over there. They also don't give you water. You have
to pay for water. I'm not used to that sparkling.
I hate sparkling water.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
And they gotta relax. Just give me some regular water.
And then they put you on blast. You're sitting there
looking at the spot.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
You're weird. Okay, Oh you just want regular water. Now
want the big one.
Speaker 11 (39:18):
They're a five year old one because I had five
year portion sizes you needed earlier.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
Listen, that's why you had that big old plate of
food right now, right to the match. If you're hungry,
Welcome back to Italy. You'd be all right, though. Welcome
back to large portions, brother,
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(01:05):
would just get one pill and the lead provides up
to twelve hours of paying reliefs so you can keep
it moving. Use ass directed. So we've been having this
talk about the trade. Obviously you got Jerry and Stephen
Jones right now. Jerry ain't past the mic yet. He
is going in right now.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
I'll be honest, I'm looking at Steve and it's giving
a little bit of Jason Kidd, like I don't really
care to talk about this. Please look, I know I
gotta sit here, but ask the guy who did this.
Don't ask me. I'm here so I don't get fined.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
It's definitely given the like, dang, my life's been pretty
good with him being my father, but dang, it's one
of the days I want to put him in a headlock,
like I'm so tired of Pops. One of those days
you're just tired of Pops where you're just like, come on, Pops.
And also you gotta be a little bit of love
of him being like Dad, you ain't gonna trust me
to do the job fully, Like if there was a time,
(02:02):
if there was a time. Dude, you're eighty two years old,
and you know I ain't trying to operate with some agism.
But it's okay to just say, hey, son, here's the
baton going ahead. I'll be here, I'll consult. I'm here,
I'm still the owner, I'm the eldest boy. Yeah, look
this is mine, Come on, pops. But yet that's not
the case, and here we are. So I don't know
(02:23):
if he's ansaking questions right now or not, but Jerry's
been going at it since this thing started about fifteen
minutes ago.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
And we'll get some sound for the guys at that
in just a minute.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
But there's another side of that, and that is the
other side is the Packers gave up a couple of
first rounds picks, and that had been on the radar
Martin for about a week or so.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
It's been the reports that the Packers have been.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Interested in getting Micah in his surfaces. So a couple
of reason why this is interesting. One the Packers don't
like to pay a bunch of money to free agents.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Eh, okay, end table in comparison, yeah, because they go ahead, yes,
in comparison, yeah, in comparison to other teams.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
They don't typically spin like other teams do. And of
course historically they've had a bunch of success, so you
can obviously point. You can say, well, look we do
pretty dog on well doing things our way, so going
to get him. Another thing that makes us interesting for
the Packers is they're the younger, one of the youngest
teams in the entire NFL, and then they get a
guy who's only twenty six and he's still i mean
(03:21):
just really entering his prime and it can be a
remarkable force for them. So when you're the Packers, you're thinking,
you got your guys sold up, you got Jordan Love
by the way, signed to the same agent, and now
you got these two guys on the same team. We'll
talk about that a little bit later. You gotta be
feeling good and you're in the division where some people
say it's the Lions. Some people say, man, the Vikings
(03:41):
is gonna be right back where they were even with
JJ because the defense is too good. All he has
to do is manage it. Some people hiding the Packers,
some even have the Bears being much much better than
they were last year. When you look at that division,
to me, in this new signing of Micah. Do I
think it makes it difficult at times for the Lions. Yes,
that's the team I still feel who is the best
(04:02):
in the division, even with the acquisition of Micah. For
the Packers, I think the Lions. Yes, they lost some
coordinators big time. That's a big deal. I'm not gonna
belittle that. However, they didn't lose any core of that offense.
They still got Laporter, they still got the running back
combination that has been deadly for now a handful of years.
They still got Williams Jomo, they still got I'm around
(04:23):
Saint Brown, who's one of the best safety blankets in
the entire NFL and can still score a bunch of touchdowns.
And I think they also have a Jared Goff who
was ticked off of how he performed in the postseason
against a rookie, and Jayden Daniels. So I still look
at and inleand your head coach too, who creates the
kind of the mantra, the vibe, the ethos of the team.
So I still look at the Lions as the team
(04:44):
to beat in that division. I understand J. J.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
McCarthy.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
I am not as high on JJ even though from
an Arburt Michigan not as high as other people are.
So to me, the Lions, this is yours to lose.
Do I think you go fifteen to two. No, you
may go back a couple of games thirteen or twelve even,
But I think it's their division. I think the Packers
did what they're supposed to do and trying to secure it.
And also think what they did with this Martin was say,
(05:10):
Jordan Love, we didn't gave you the bag. We didn't
got arguably one of the best one, two three defenders
in the league. This is your run to do what
your predecessors have done. Brett Favre got a ring, went
to a couple of Super Bowls. Aaron Rodgers a couple
of Super bowls, got one.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
This is your run.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
We got you the money early. We got a guy
on your on your you call like a record lay
who he's on you. You're saying an agent, We've got
some young talent around you who hopefully should be growing
and getting better.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
This is the run way.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Let's go. And I think they say, now you're in
your runway that we've done with Aaron Rodgers, we did
with Brett fav You're up.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
I think that this is definitely a bet on obviously
a big bet on Jordan Love, which the biggest bet
of Jordan Love was giving him all that money. As
you said, both of these players repped with David Mulagetti.
So obviously, when you have a relationship with an agent, Dallas, Jerry,
I know you're talking right now, but when you get off,
(06:10):
if you catch the podcast, when you have a relationship
with an agent, it's easier to get deals done.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
It's football GMing one on one.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
I know you've been there longer, Jerry, but you know,
sometimes fresh eyes can help see a scenario. But for me,
I had real questions about the other. To me, every
team in the NFC North has major questions. And it
was the best division in the NFC last year when
(06:39):
you look at the top of the teams, and then
even Green Bay when I only won one game in division,
but you know everybody would talk about them, was a
pretty good team. And then Chicago obviously dumpster fire last
year in terms of coaching and everything else, but promising
young rookie and Kayleb Williams, and you got a head
coach and Ben Johnson, who a lot of people are
(06:59):
very very very high on so reasons for you know,
optimism in Chicago. Although they would be like, if you're
just looking at the record, be like why the buy
one hundred bears? The Lions losing both their coordinators.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
To me is.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
This is the most important offseason in Lions history. This
has also been the most prolonged success the Lions have
had in thirty years, right, and this is the first
real time where you are paying the price for success.
So which kind of head coach is Dan Campbell? Is
(07:38):
the answer we are going to get this season because
to me, one of the things that completely is over
i mean underrated in Kyle Shanahan's career is his ability
to both hire and fire coordinators every single year when
they were really on their hot streak, really on their run,
he was losing passing game coordinators, offensive coordinators, defensive coordinators.
(08:00):
It didn't matter because Shanahan was continued to hire people
and he was like he kept hitting out of the park.
And the one time that they made the mistake at
defensive coordinator, they lost in the Super Bowl at overtime.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Okay, now, did it as a resulted in the Super Bowl?
Speaker 4 (08:14):
No, But there's a lot of teams Jerry Jones right now,
with trade a whole lot to have the success the
forty nine has had in the postseason over the last
five years compared to what he has. Are you the
forty nine Ers or are you the Eagles? The Eagles
lost both. They went to the Super Bowl, and everybody
says Jalen Hurts had a great game in that game.
He did have a fumble six in a game that
they lost by a touchdown, right, but they were still
(08:35):
in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
A team that had a super Bowl level type of roster.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
They lose both their coordinators, fall off a cliff second
half of the season, one to nine, dog walked in
the playoffs, losing the wild card to Tampa, and then
all of a sudden boom, make the right hires again
in the Super Bowl, win the Super Bowl? Right now,
The forty nine Ers had some injury dis reprecies there too.
Lion should have everybody back. What type of coaches, Dan Campbell,
(09:05):
that's the answer that we get right here, because I
agree fifteen wins, I don't need to see that, but
I need to see a team that is still a
top of the NFC North because this roster, to me,
is the best in the NFC North Minnesota too many
questions at quarterback.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
I went to Michigan.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
I was clapping and standing on the table when they
ran the ball for the twenty seventh straight time against
Penn State. You know, Oh, I was just so excited
because that's just kin of football, a that I love
to watch.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
But also I thought JJ McCarthy put the ball at risk.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
I know he didn't throw a lot of interceptions Washton
Rose Bowl, Caleb down, Shoa and Shorter.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
That's a pick, Marcus May, that's a pick, right, he
would just overthrow easy pass. He just he wasn't a
we're jumping up the tenth to get that guy. I
think that's what was shocking for me. I think speaking
for you too, where nobody's saying he can't be a
late first round.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
All he did was win. But the jump up the
tenth was like, wait, did I miss something?
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Because I swear I thought I saw just about every
pass in his career. Did I miss something? So we're
gonna find out who he is.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
But one of the most interesting to me sliding door
moments in the last sliding door moments, where if one
thing went a little differently, the whole league would have
been in a different spot. Aaron Jones ran for like
one fifty something in that wildcard game when Green Bay
was Remember they were the first I believe seven seed,
(10:23):
the first extra wildcard team to win a playoff game.
They go into Jerry's world, they beat Dallas and Aaron
Jones runs all over them. The Packers let Aaron Jones
walk to Minnesota, make Jordan Love at that point the
highest paid quarterback in football, and Michael Parsons was on
that roster for Dallas and got crushed for being quote
unquote invisible in that postseason game. The Dak played terribly
(10:46):
as well. Jerry Jones today just said one of the
things that we needed to show up with we need
to be able to stop the run.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
And I know he's thinking about that game in this moment.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
And if you in fact think, if you're Jerry Jones,
and when you in fact think that Michael Parsons is
not worth this money, not worth this type of deal,
because even though there's a discrepancy in what he was
offered compared to what like ultimately so there was a
big gap of a five million dollars there, which is
pretty significant. But I again, if there had been, like
(11:17):
maybe just regular negotiations here, who probably could have found
a middle ground because Michael was his son advised to
stay in doubtas he said he wanted to stay Jerry.
I can't imagine Jerry's not thinking about those playoff games,
thinking about how Michael Parsons wasn't quite there. And if
he thinks that this is a massive overpay, then good
job by you. Because the Lions are going to be
really good in this division. The Vikings have a great roster.
(11:40):
And if they hit on this quarterback and they Kevin O'Connell,
depending on how you you listen to him saying, oh
I love the quarterback.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
You look at the auf Steason moves.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
He was on the phone with every other quarterback and
seemed so see how it actually plays out. And then
you have the Packers like and then you have the
Bears rather who just hired Ben Johnson and they expect
to have a lot of success. This might be a
team that gets beat up in the division regardless of
what they did.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Well, they're gonna get beat up regardless to me.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
I've already told Rob g that I think the Commanders
are going to be right about the same back.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
And so know what I'm saying, the Packers might be
a team that get beat up in their division. If
everything the way the NFC North plays out, you might
have got some pretty high first round picks.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Here just in general.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
And you know, and I'm not saying I don't think
they're gonna have a terrible year, but no, I picked
the Packers to be third.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
In the in the North. Probably still third in the North.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
They're nine and eleven games to me, somewhere around there
between nine and eleven. The thing that I think also
helped Jerry sleep at night tonight is that he can say, well,
look at the other guys who've gotten paid in that
same you know type of position, TJ Watt, Well, TJ,
what have you done for me lately?
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (12:42):
That's I know that's coming today. They haven't done anything
in the postseason with TJ Watt. They haven't won a
game eight nine years. Miles Garrett got all the money,
hasn't really done anything. I know they got one with
Joe Flacco. But point is it's not. Their perennial defense
isn't great. They're always in the postseason. So I think
that's one thing that Jerry Jones. When he hits that
melatone in the night and he sleeps good, he's going
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to be able to say, man, I know he's good.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
I know he's great.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
But one defensive end, you know, outside linebacker, doesn't change
the game like this. He ain't Lawrence Taylor. That's Crosby
and Max Crosby spectacular. Everybody wanted him to get traded
last season. Go to it to the Lions, you know,
because they were hurt with a Hutchinson. So I think
that is something he can sell himself and say, great
(13:27):
as these guys are, they're not making that much of
a difference. And those types of guys really only make
a difference when they become kind of the hit man
for hire. And we'll talk about that a little bit
later on. Just some teams that maybe could have jumped
in there as well. All right, so let's do this, Mark,
Let's take a break eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
We haven't opened it up. Let's open it up.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
And also when we come back, you'll hear some of
what Jerry had to say and his thoughts towards Micah
and how why he handled the business the way he
did so we'll do that. Eight seven seven ninety nine
on Fox Good Trade, Shocked by the trade. You love
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Yeah, couple, Kelvin Washington, Martin Wis who's in for Rob Parker?
Robin joined some time. You think he's just sitting there
having a little Mattaire or something and completely doesn't notice happened?
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Or is he peeking in? What do you think? Oh?
No chance he knows this happens yet? Really? Oh yeah,
I don't think because Rob's I don't think he's lot.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
Look he's not. He's on vacation right now. So you
might be at a baseball game. Where is he in Hawaii?
He's Hawaii? Yeah, Okay, So there's no baseball game there,
so there's nobody to take pictures with.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
No so his song is probably back in the room.
He'll find this out in a couple hours. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
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The white tire buying should be Jerry ain't past to
my guest Steven just sitting up there. I don't even
know how if he ain't fall hasn't fallen asleep yet.
So let's take a few phone calls. I want to
hear from you about this trade. Eight seven, seven ninety
nine on Fox. Let's go to two cities. Let's go
to Orlando. Who's in El Paso, Orlando? You're on with
the oct couple Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 8 (16:29):
Hey, guys, it's heartbreaking guys, Jerry Jones, at eighty two
years old, was found alive and well in his home today.
Speaker 9 (16:36):
My goodness, who getting bad, man, that's just getting bad.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
So let me show what about this to you? Orlando?
Speaker 4 (16:50):
I am I don't know a Mavericks fan as well,
but obviously Cowboys fan.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
What's the worst part about this to you?
Speaker 8 (16:58):
I think when you break it down, it's failing to
get the Mica deal done. It's about pride and eagle
for Jerry. They're destroying the current team because this is
going to affect them all the team and then they
send them to the team that literally run rush all
over you back in that playoff game. People don't remember that.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
No, we make sure we tell him, Rob and I
we make sure we tell him that beat down right there.
They definitely heard that from us, Orlando. Thank you for
the call, brother, appreciate it. Let's go to New Jersey.
Let's go to Drew and New Jersey. Drew, you own
the couple. Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
Hey, guys, I love the trade. I think that they
can finally get out of the above. Playing out of
your draft position quarterback because if you look at it,
Tony Romo was undrafted he ended up being a top
twelve quarterback in the league when he played. Same thing
with Deck. But I think the reason why he has
not won a Super Bowls he doesn't have the ma homes.
(17:51):
He doesn't have a Josh Allen. I think this gives
you capital to get like a Leonora Sellars at South Carolina,
or go trade that pick moved down in a couple
of years, get Bryce Underwood in Michigan. I think they'd
be better set it up. And I feel like it's
low hanging fruit to go after Jerry Goods. I think
let's look at the Bengalos owner. I mean, I think
(18:12):
he uses coupons to play his players.
Speaker 10 (18:15):
Well.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
The only let me the real quick mark.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
The reason why I hear what you're saying about Jerry,
But the reason I'm going after Jerry's because you've been
selling me for thirty years. The most important thing is winning.
And that's the point. And I'm saying, now you've just
what everything you just mentioned, Drew, thank you for the
call is futuristically speaking. You just mentioned Underwood in Michigan.
He a true freshman, so like, okay, a couple of
years down the line, and my point is Jerry wants
(18:37):
to win while Jerry's still with us, and Jerry's still
able to enjoy it, and you just set yourself back
a couple of years. To me, that's why I'm blaming Jerry.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
But if I may to the caller's point, I think
his point is, Jerry's not afraid to cut a check, right.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Jerry was not afraid to cut that check for Dak.
He was not afraid to cut that.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Check for CD Limb, because if he was, he wouldn't
have We see today, Jerry Jones is not a man
who's gonna do something he clearly doesn't want to do, right.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
He was good enough to make those deals instead.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
I think he even admitted afterwards in the in the
like the aftermath post game or post contract signing of
Dak Prescott saying, you know that kind.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Of got me on that one. You got me a
little bit on that one. But Jerry, to pardon the punt,
enjoys the art of the deal, right.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
And the thing that I agree like Mike Brown's never
was never going to pay Trey Henders here for twenty
twenty six. It was never gonna happen. He's not because
just fundamental, I'm not paying a thirty one year roles.
I don't think Jerry has that same heart and fast rule,
which to me finds you the most fascinating because I
think this deal could have gotten done.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
For so much less that it Actually that's the crazy part.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
But I think to Jerry to quote trade two years
ago when his team came to him and say, hey, man,
you know we might want to trade Mike and now
get what we can for him, And he said, no,
So you didn't want to trade for him, then you
didn't want to sign him. You might have been able
to set the market if you signed him first, before Miles, Gary,
before TJ. Why like there was too many variables and
too many options for this to be where you are,
(20:02):
or you trade them right before the draft gets some
guys now that can maybe help you this season.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
And I mean Michaeh said as much. He said, I
went to them and they said it wasn't my turn.
I went to them again, they said it wasn't my
turn because he was trying to take this quote unquote
team friendly, cap friendly deal which would have been top
of the market at the time. But again it's top
of the market now. But you know, as soon as
you buy your house, the house next door price goes up. Right,
So all of these prices was of the brick was
(20:28):
just going up. But to Jerry's point, and to the
caller's point, you can't be mad at Jerry today if
you didn't think that you should have paid Michael Parson,
if you still you should have traded Michael Parses last year,
like last year was last year. And it may have
been the wrong decision. But if it's a lie, we
fight on that lie. And these are the chips we
(20:49):
have today. And if you gambling, you can't think about
what you had twenty minutes ago because you ain't got.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
It no more for them some off brand chips.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
If that's chips we have, you ain't dealing with no
freedo A's he ain't no de ritom ships is off brand.
Tell you we'll do one more real quick. Kevin and
Culver City. Kevin, you're on with the odd couple Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 9 (21:07):
God, it's good all the time. Ross probably at food
Land of supermarket in and now we're probably performing their
Lives of Beach doing this delatex oct.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
You think they got a comedy club out there doing
a little stand up about that too.
Speaker 9 (21:21):
I know that's that's my that's my second hood. Okay,
look you're actually you're actually talking, you're actually talking an
exclusive Packers owner. I'm a Packers owner.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
The trade. Nice, congrats.
Speaker 9 (21:33):
So so we made a big trade today. Here's what
the Packers are getting. I got my little you know,
my one share. But here's what we here's what we're getting.
We're getting inferior defensive in as Russia in the game
right now. And when the Packers do that, they went
Super Bowls. Reggie White, Brett Farm, Clay Matthews, Aaron Rodgers,
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Nika Parsons, Jordan Love, the Packers. We believe in Jordan Love.
This is why this trade was made. I think Matthew
Golden I heard his chearing up camp, the Packers leaders
who legit shot to win a Super Bowl with Josh
Jagerson running back to the defensive short up now with Mika,
they're going for it. This is a Super Bowl run.
So now gota aggressive.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
That is absolute fact because that's a team that right
now after Kevin, thanks for the call.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
I agree with you one thousand percent.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
You want to talk about America's gambler and Mike Silver
just wrote this in the New York Times.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Check him out as well.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
The packers, essentially they put all the chips in the
middle of the table because they now have Jordan Love
being paid as much as he is, Michael Parks is
being paid as much as he is, and they don't
have any.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
More two first round picks gone, just gone.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
Like they're the ones who pushed all their chips into
the middle of the table, and we'll see how it
plays out for them.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
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Shout out to Elijah as well. Do we have anything
new from Jerry?
Speaker 3 (23:44):
We still what we do.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
All right, let's here, let's hear a little bit what
Jerry had to say. This is about Micah and was
it personal or not.
Speaker 10 (23:53):
I really like Michael. I appreciate the years four years
that we've had him here, and he's he's a great player,
and so we are very appreciative of the fact that
he's a great player. Uh. There's no question that I
could have signed him in April, and so, UH we
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all know that to have agreements, all parties have to agree.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
But this was by design.
Speaker 10 (24:29):
Uh. I did uh make min offer. Uh it wasn't acceptable. Uh,
And I honored the fact that it wasn't done in
the way that he wanted to do it through an agent,
so he was made an offer. There's not an ounce
of vindictiveness. There's no bad feelings on my part about
(24:55):
the fact that we didn't come together on an agreement.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
I actually believe that it isn't personal.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
I think when you've been doing business now as he
has for I don't know, fifty fifty five years, whatever
it may be, I absolutely think he can look at
the person understand when we're going to war negotiating. I
might say something a little reckless. You might say some
little reckless, but that's just part of the game. I
think he actually enjoys it. I think he enjoys kind
of the you know, the back and forth and the
(25:24):
jousting and what it takes to get a deal done.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
You mentioned, you know, Donald Trump Art of the Deal.
But I think he just enjoys it. He didn't trademark.
He's I know, and he makes sure we know about
it once every quarter.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
You know.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
I wrote this book, The Art of a Deal. Bible
are the best book ever. It's well the Bible is
the second two Art of a Deal that was one
of my favorite lines. So I'd say I think Jerry
absolutely I think if he were on the phone with
Mike in a week, I absolutely believe he would be like, Yo, man,
ain't nothing personal. Yo, you and Dallas come to stop
by the crib. We'd love to have you for dinner.
Like I think, he just understands he's been doing this
(25:58):
too long.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
This is a part of it.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
It is what it is, and I hate to see
him go, but I got to do what I have
to do with He believes his best for the Cowboys
at this time today, at this moment, and that's what
he did. I do not think it's personal for him,
and I think that's just a part of what he's
been able to. When you're in the game so long
and you've made so many deals and good or bad,
get your favorite guy, not your favorite guy, you get
used to this, and the idea that he might be
(26:24):
able to use something with these first round picks is
a real thing. I mean, again, why wait much longer
if you're if you're if you're Jerry, Because you know
Jerry's getting up there at age, he's eighty two years old.
I don't want to wait two, three, four more years
so maybe he will be able to use these picks
and come up with a guy or two defensively that
can get right back there and help him, because that's
gonna be the issue.
Speaker 10 (26:42):
Man.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
You can't rely on that offense. Offense is not that spectacular. Uh,
You're gonna have to have some defense again. And they're
knowing here as explosive as the Bengals, and the Bengals
have struggled the last couple of years with the bad defense. Well,
I think Jerry's point is kind of the one we've
heard from Jay Z said, people saying they made ho, okay,
make a up.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
I drafted Michael Parsons. I'm the one that scouted, Like
all these other.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
Players got drafted ahead of him, got paid, all those
teams passed on Michael Parsons.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
I'm the one that found him. I'll find another.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
I sure it's not personal between he and Michael Parsons whatever,
but I think it is personal between he and David Mullaghetta.
And I think I am just a gas bag on
the radio. I'm not in Dallas, I'm not reporting this.
But if you go back and just pay a little
(27:31):
bit of attention to the Pablo toy reporting about what
happened with the NFLPA and Lamar Jackson's guaranteed contract or
lack thereof, It all stems back to one deal, Deshaun
Watson getting the most guaranteed money ever. Who is his agent,
David Mullaghetta. David Mullagedtta operated with that deal. Jerry Jones
(27:53):
is old school NFL and we I'm not speculating this.
It's been reported that Michael bids Well and Steve Bushatti
were sitting texting back and forth saying, what in the
hell is going on here? They're paying DeShawn Watston fully
guaranteed money? What does that mean for my guy and
my guy? And you know what it meant for Jerry's guy.
It meant that Jerry had to cut a sixty million
(28:15):
dollars on my check for Dak Prescott. With the no
trade clause, that contract would not necessarily have been that
prohibitive if DeShawn Watson didn't get his the idea that Jerry,
who has been Jerry's wonting the founding pillars of the
not founding. But at this point pillars of the league
could not have felt good about the fact that now,
(28:37):
wait if y'all, cause the argument for fully guaranteed it.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Has always been there. It's always been there.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
And the thing about David mullaghetta, he he's the guy
that gets these headlines watching most guaranteed money ever Jordan
Love tied Joe Burrow and Trevor Lawrence and with biggest
signing bonus and is up there and all and average
annual value. He reset the cornerback market. David Mullagetter reset
(29:05):
the cornerback market three times in one offseason, twice in
one offseason. But he got Jalen Ramsey twenty four million dollars,
j C. Horn twenty five million dollars, Dereck Stinglely thirty
million dollars all average annual value. Every time this guy
makes a deal, it is one of those. And this
guy is the highest paid disc or the highest paid
day he gets the deal done. But when you look
(29:28):
at these teams, look at the teams that he's gotten
these deals done since DeShawn Watson his green Bay twice.
You know what, green Bay doesn't have an a traditional
owner right Cleveland Jimmy has them who has been desperate
fawning over a quarterback so badly that right now the
reports are depending on how you feel about Shador Sanders.
He went back in there and said, no, take a
(29:49):
fifth route quarterback too right, and then his answer questions
about arts Manning right. Literally, the most desperate can be.
Houston had an ownership changeover the bob Ing there passed
away ownership changeover Carolina J C. Horn, Jerry Richardson sold
the team, David Temper new owner, and then you know
(30:09):
Calvin Rilly, you know some of the but those are
the big deals. When you look at those big deals,
you know who they're not done with is guys are
let's just say, ownership groups that have been in in
play for longer than like five ten years.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Well, you're not making those moves against guys who feel
like you're not gonna come in here and outdeal me.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
You're not gonna make me out here to be the
small guy in this.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
And you Knoway, you keep saying his name and I'm
calling him Moulah get a cause he's getting all the
moulah for all these guys.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
I mean, that's what he's doing, and that's what a great.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Agent does, which is why I kept telling Michah earlier
stop talking about I mean I want to play. I
don't care about money. I just you can feel that way.
Call me if I'm David mula Getta call me two am.
Wake the phone. I'm just whispered and sweeten, nothing's to me.
Don't tell that to the public, because I can get
you the money and I can keep you in Dallas. Ultimately,
it didn't work, but that was what an agent it's
(30:58):
supposed to be doing. So David Mullagetta is doing he's
supposed to do similar to you looking like Scott Boris
in the MLB, Right, that's the guy you go to.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
You know you're about to get paid.
Speaker 10 (31:10):
You know.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
We had him on the show Rob and I Feel
on a few months back. He kind of explaining the
way in which he does it, and it's just you're
just blown away with the way he's like, no, the
way that put it up here, and we Taelor players
and we show them the numbers, and we go to
the teams and say, if you look at the average
of the ten years, it's a math. It's a science.
That's why you sign him. So you say, I'm gonna
be paid because I've gotten this guy. And David mula
Getta has become that for the league as well. Go ahead,
(31:33):
just real quick say ultimately mula ghetta whole thing was.
I mean, Michael Parsons came up with that big long
notes app and you never go full notes app.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
It said, I want to play.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
I'm paraphrasing I wanted to be in Dallas, and you
went through the agent every single time. And Jerry said,
we had an agreement, but all parties have to agree.
And then he said we couldn't get it done the
way he wanted to do it. Jerry is what the
NFL Sheba says, you have to do it like this.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
This is the way that he is.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
Jerry Jones has done every other deal that he has
ever done. You have got to get an agent to
sign off on this at every step of the way.
The idea that Jerry is acting like this was some
one off is our shooting star type scenario is laughable.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
That's ridiculous. And to me, that's the.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
Through line is the entirety of this time. Jerry said
to offer him a deal, Michae saidn't wanted to be
a cowboy. The issue Jerry didn't want to negotiate with
this guy. And I think the question that we should
be asking once we talk about what's just me for
the cowboys, what's mean for the package?
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Just why why didn't Jerry want to negotiate with him?
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Because there and he doesn't want someone bigger than these owners.
He doesn't want somebody that is bigger than your dagner
up there with the commission, if you will, And an
agent can get like that where anything I want is
gonna happen like it might's touched. Anything I touched is
gonna turn the coat golder in this case, you know,
straight cash homie, is.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
He actually well, are we gonna do shop talk?
Speaker 1 (32:58):
I'm just just jump out the because we were talking
about doing but we gonna still do that because this
kind of just transpire.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
So let's do this.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
We'll cleanse our palette a little bit. Somebody in here
just got married, so congrats to you. We're gonna talk
a little marriage and all things. What just happened to
you a couple of weeks ago. We'll do that little
shop talk and we'll get right back to this and
we'll have some more sound from what Jerry Jones had
to say from that presser. It is the odd couple.
Martin Weiss and for Rob Parker Kelvin Washington on a
(33:25):
Jerry Jones then Lost Micah Thursday.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Is that what we're calling it? Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple
with Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm
Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the
iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
One day, Micah and Jerry Jones will be friends again.
Since we're listening to friends right here on this TV
theme song Thursday, let Jerry tailors that day is still today? Yeah,
I mean listen, I told you I don't think he
I don't think stuff is overly personal with him. I
mean I think he's been able to just I gotta
do what I gotta do. This is what I feel
is best, and that be that. It is The Odd Couple.
I'm Kevin Washington, He's Martin Whissa and for Rob on
(34:03):
this TV thing. So on Thursday, aching stiff back joints
not cooperating. Some days your body is like uh uh.
And on those days, thankfully there's a leave with just
one pill of the lead provides up to twelve hours
of painting and relief so you can keep moving. Use
as directed it's time not for shop Talk more Micah Parsons.
Trade Talk coming up in about ten minutes. But first off,
(34:26):
Martin whis just got married, clapping.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Up every here.
Speaker 11 (34:28):
Whatever, Martin, you, thank you, thank He's got a fresh
France glow about him because he just got back from
his honeymoon.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Yeah, look, you got the ring out here in these streets.
I know, his hands all heavy, can't even as two
married guys over under four months before he has his
first scare. He thinks he lost it, oh under under, Oh,
I thought I lost it ten minutes, two hours, never mind,
have to wash that big on the under.
Speaker 11 (34:55):
So Martin just got back from honeymooning in Europe, and
that led to an obvious question we had here for
the show for shop Talk. The plan was for you
to go to the south of France right for your hut.
So the oh you didn't stay in the south of France.
I always say the plan went off without a hitch.
So this was the plank. But this was my first
time in Europe. I crossed the Atlantic before, but I
(35:16):
went to Dubai.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
That's all the way outside the world.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
Europe, you know, a lot closer to the United States
and kind of the vibes of everything. But we went
to Nice, then we went to Provence. Then we went
to Rapallo, Italy, then Porto Fino, Italy, and then Florence, Italy.
Because apparently if you go to Europe, it's illegal to
sit in one place for a long five days straight
(35:39):
like that kick you out. And so my biggest question
is just like how much traveling are you supposed to
do all on vacation, because I.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
Feel like I did.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
I had a great honeymoon. I love my wife, we
were on it, I was. I spent so much time
on trains, planes and automobiles. That is just it's insane.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
It's insane. Yeah, you traveled, you didn't go on vacation.
Yeah yeah, No, vacation has an island in it, and
then you don't leave the spot.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
You didn't when you travel Europe, Yes, parts of Asia,
you're not going.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
You're you're traveling.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
We're here, we're exploring, you're learning, learning. You go to Hawaii,
you're Rob Parker right now, you go to Jamaica. That's
make the Caribbean Caribbean, you're on vacation, right. That's why
I want to argue Caribbing Caribbean.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
You know what I'm saying. That's why.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
Yeah, those are my like vacation debates. Now, don't get
me wrong. I had fun, went to the Leonardo da
Vinci Museum.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
I saw David. It was just also saw a lot
of train. I saw a lot of plane. They're gonna
speed train you to death. I would just take the
fast train, speed train whatever, that's nothing to it. That's
what they call it. The fast train. Yeah, that's the
fast train. Shows.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
Oh god, please are the slow train. It's all fast training.
So yeah, I've been to Europe now twice and one
trap was similar, right. We went to Geneva, Berlin, Paris,
and I'm missing one more one more sit I can't
remember on the top of my head.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
But if it was what you said, bow two three
days both yeah, boom boom boom.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
And that's just what you're doing Europe, which is also
cool because then you're knocking off places.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
That's just what you're do in Europe. That's just what
you're doing in Europe. Did too, I did this.
Speaker 12 (37:19):
I went to Germany, landed in at Munich, was in
English shop Munich, then went to London, then went to
Italy and Rome, and I also spent too much time
on trains and planes and a short amount of time
robu two.
Speaker 10 (37:32):
Oh.
Speaker 11 (37:32):
I've been that trip plenty of times, and I will
say we're talking about before the show. The flip side
to that is, Hey, you go somewhere, you stay there,
You don't do anything right, You just kind of exist.
So when I went to Greece, you went to Sanserini
and out. If you ever been to Sanserini, no, but
it's one of those seasonal vacation places, so when it's
off season, there is nothing to do. There's one restaurant
(37:53):
you can go to, and one restaurant at the bottom
of the hill, and there's like four shops.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
So we were there for five days. By day three,
I'm like, I'm ready to go. Yeah, on Netflix in
bed all day.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
Part of the problem is because you was traveling around
like you on the room from the police.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
You're picking up every two days, three days. You know,
the human bodies that meant to do that you tired.
I don't know if they sit down to doing for
eleven days. I didn't leave, you said in Europe, but no, no,
you're pretty big girls.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
I was in London, so I did London, then went
up to Sheffield for a couple of days and then
came back to London.
Speaker 6 (38:23):
But then you also got sick, but you were people
I got yeah, and you were there seeing family and people.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
Yeah, well I.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
Just the next time somebody tells me, oh, it's so close.
Everything is so close. Yeah, okay, cool. It's like the
distance between LA and San Diego, which is sure, it's close,
but you know what, I'm.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Not doing going to La. I'm not going to San
Diego every other weekend. But you know who is what?
People from Europe they're coming here to going to La.
They're going to Vegas, they're going to San Diego.
Speaker 11 (38:56):
We're going to Disneyland on Thursday, seer World on Friday.
It gets straight up on Saturdays.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
Because they're used to that stuff. That's what they do
over there. They also don't give you water. You have
to pay for water. I'm not used to that sparkling.
I hate sparkling water.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
And they gotta relax. Just give me some regular water.
And then they put you on blast. You're sitting there
looking at the spot.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
You're weird. Okay, Oh you just want regular water. Now
want the big one.
Speaker 11 (39:18):
They're a five year old one because I had five
year portion sizes you needed earlier.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
Listen, that's why you had that big old plate of
food right now, right to the match. If you're hungry,
Welcome back to Italy. You'd be all right, though. Welcome
back to large portions, brother,
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