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Speaker 3 (01:17):
Usually we don't take.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Calls in the second hour on trash Talking Tuesday, but
we will do that today because this is a hot
topic that Jalen Rose's tweet has sparked. Rob and I
have talked about it before, but we want to talk
about it. Keep it going and give you guys a
chance to weigh in on the kind of for lack
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of a better term, and probably somewhat of an overstatement,
but the international takeover of the NBA.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Is this like the British invasion when the Beatles and
came to America?
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Chris, you remember I was not alive then? What was
it like?
Speaker 5 (01:55):
Rob?
Speaker 4 (01:56):
You were wasn't your t was not I when the
Beatles said at Shase Stadium, that was nineteen sixty four.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
That's what I was born, Chris Broussard.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
But but no, I mean in musical history in the
United States, Chris, you know that the British invasion, Rolling Stones,
the Beatles, all these groups and acts came from Europe.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
So we obviously bounced back. Though, so I don't I
don't think that you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
No, but at the time.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
But I'm just saying, at the time, all these who
had the number one hits in the United States, the
Beatles over American singers were Beatles.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Well, look, Jalen Rose, veteran former NBA player, an iconic
member of the iconic Fab Five, and has made his
mark in broadcasting.
Speaker 6 (02:46):
Rob.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
I don't know what he's gonna do next. He's doing
a podcast now anything.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
I think he's working for the Pistons the last someone
told me, Oh really, he's something part of the organization.
Chris in somewhere. I don't know if it's full time,
but I know he's doing stuff in Detroit.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
So here's what he tweeted yesterday, Rob, dear us born
basketball players put in that work tirelessly and show discipline.
Otherwise NBA jobs are becoming extinct. And let's give a
little let's summary. Yeah, I mean, yeah, exactly. There'll always
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be some American players obviously in the NBA. But here's
what he's talking about. He's overstating it, but this is
what he's referring to.
Speaker 7 (03:29):
Rob.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
First team the NBA is probably gonna be named All
NBA team this week, if not tomorrow, and first team
will likely be Luka, Doncic, Shay Gilgers, Alexander.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Joel mb No, not NB because he was hurt.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Nicole Jokic, probably Jason Tatum and who am I forgetting
to do kumpo and four of those players are international, Rob,
what is it the last six? Jokis just won three
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MBE So the last six MVP Awards have been won
by international players. That's what we're talking about, Rob, the
best player in the world. As much as we love
Anthony Edwards right now, he's not the best player in
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the world.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
I don't think he's in that discussion.
Speaker 6 (04:34):
Rob.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
I think objectively you would say it's too yo. I
think Yoka is still clearly the best player in the world.
Some people might say Yannis, some people might say Luca,
and some people might even I don't know.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
If he abouts say mb because of his playoff record, but.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
I still think that the joker is still there.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Yeah, I agree, and I don't. I don't.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
I don't think I'll change that no matter who wins
the championship. But those are all international players. So let
me throw this at you first, Rob, And we talked
about like why the American basketball has kind of been
on the decline. And we can say this because this
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is what a lot of people that want to defend
American basketball will say, Rob, Well, no one country is
better than us, and I would agree with that until I.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Get one out of the Olympics.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Well, that's the thing. I know.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
One country is producing more stars and better players than America, Canada, Spain, Serbia,
Lithe Wayne. You know, none of them are producing like
the number of great players we are. But yet to
your point, Rob, we we got beat by Germany and
some other people in the international play last summer, and
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we're sending over our big.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Boys Steph and Leb and Duran.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
But they're older and a country that doesn't have as
much talent as us could beat us because they play
more team basketball, five player basketball, where everybody's getting some
touches and they play like more of a team than
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we do. And then sending over a bunch of superstars
and trying to make a mesh in a month or two.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
And you can get beat that way, Chris, Yeah, you
can get beat even though you have a talented roster.
Because we talk about all time, doesn't mesh? Do they
play well together? Who's the closer? Who were giving the
shot to? Sometimes when you have all star teams like that,
put a Okay, well you shot last time, so we'll
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give it to you. You know, like that's not always
the best thing. Trying to make sure everybody gets the
ball or touches it.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Row the Redeemed Team right, which I think people would
say it was probably the second greatest team ever next
to the Dream Team in nineteen ninety two. The Redeemed
Team ROB in the two thousand and eight Beijing Olympics,
which you know, we had lost in the last Olympics
in four We had been getting beaten in just regular
international play, and we sent them over Kobe Lebron, Carmelo,
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all these guys, Dwayne Wade, and we won. But Rob,
we beat Spain one eighteen to one to oh seven
in the championship in the gold medal game.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
That's not like a blow. That was a good game,
like we had.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Those are absolute best players of this generation in their
primes and we we had our hands full with Spain.
And that was what sixteen years ago.
Speaker 8 (07:47):
Rob.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
We've gotten worse and they've gotten better in the last
sixteen years. So even sending over our big dogs is
not a guarantee.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
But due let me.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Ask you this, Rob, do you think if this doesn't change,
maybe it doesn't get worse. But the best you know,
six of the best ten players in the world are
now international. Let's say, is that a problem for the
NBA in your mind.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
No, I think that because there's still plenty of American
players who are starts.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
It's not like, uh, it's it's a it's eight European
players on every squad or some number like that.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
It's still a small number that that's just not going
to be.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
They're just the elite, like just right now, the the
best of the best, all right, But but then the
next twenty Edwards or you know what I mean, or
American born the next right, So it's not like if
this became I always I think that that happened in hockey, Chris, Uh.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
And obviously I covered hockey a lot in Detroit when
I was a columnist there, and then you got a
lot of uh, international players, Chris. They weren't just Canadian
and American born hockey players from guys from Europe, you know,
from Europe and Sweden and all that, right, And then
a lot of the the Pistons the Red Wings had
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like five Russian plays.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Did that hurt?
Speaker 8 (09:30):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (09:30):
I do think that after a while, because people couldn't
pronounce their names, you know, like there's a lot of
issues that come with promoting the game, you know what
I mean. And before it was mostly Canadians and then
some Americans. Women can have effect.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
It can effect.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
He seems to have some personality. Uh, and and Inbeed
obviously does Jannis does. But like you said, just maybe
being in a different country, you know, you're just gonna
be a little bit more, a little tighter, right, I
think so. I think that's just natural.
Speaker 5 (10:06):
Right.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
I agree, maybe it'll change, become a little less.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Uh, they'll get a little looser, just be as as
they're over here longer.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
But look, Anthony Edwards, Rob should emerge to be in
the best player in the World conversation within the next
few years, John Morant Rob, if he has his doesn't
have his issues off the court, then he certainly can
be a great player, like a top player. And check Holmgren,
who is not as good as Wimby, but he's a
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budding star. To say, they're out there, and there's some
more we could name. So it's not you know, like
like you said, like there won't be any great American players.
But I just hope that a sense of desperation, Rob,
like we really, like I said, I would love for
more ogs like Jalen Rose to come out and just
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start making these statements that, look, we got to get
it together and Rob the gatekeepers of the game, the coaches,
people at the lower levels. We need to change the
way we're doing things because it's clearly not working the
way we want it to work. And so and the players, right,
they can dribble. I don't know if the A and
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one mixtape have any effect. Rob, dudes can dribble like ridiculous,
you know, but you know, are their games better? I
don't know, all right, eight seven, seven, ninety nine or five? Yeah,
we want to hear from you guys on the international takeover,
if you will, of the NBA one. Why and what
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can we do as Americans to turn the tide or
is it a problem or will it be a problem
if the best players in the world, it gets even
more so international? Your thoughts on all of the above,
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Speaker 1 (13:12):
You're turned the way in on what we're turning the
international takeover of the NBA.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Jalen Row sounds the alarm. What are your thoughts? Is
this bad for the game?
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Will it hurt the game if we don't start developing
American superstars who can be the best players or at
least in the conversation in the world, or is it
not really a big deal? Or what can we do
to improve it in America? A weigh in on any
of that if you like.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
All right, let's start Chris with Justin and Tucson. You're
on the odd couple Fox Sports Radio. What's up Justin?
Speaker 7 (13:50):
Hey, guys, thanks for taking my calls. Always a pleasure
to talk basketball with you.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
Guys.
Speaker 7 (13:54):
I think you guys come with so a lot of
knowledge and different perspectives on it that I really appreciate.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Thank you.
Speaker 7 (13:59):
One point, I've got one point in one question. I
don't think that there's any sort of sound need to
sound the alarm right until until there's a majority of
players in the in the league that are foreign born.
Then America still has the the top crop crop top
crop of talent.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (14:17):
Now that said, this is the that goes to the
question point here. What I look at players like Wemby.
I look at players in the NAZI recent past, like
Ricky Rubio for example, who's not one of the best
in the league, but they started as proves in their
individual countries and then they were recruited to play in
the NBA meeting. They were the top players in their
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country before coming to this country to perform. And so
the question then is what does our AAU system do?
Speaker 5 (14:46):
Is it is it?
Speaker 7 (14:46):
Is it a complacency issue where Okay, we're gonna we're
gonna train you to get to the league, and once
you get to the league, that's enough. Whereas you've got
these guys coming from across you know, foreign countries, they're
already the best. Do they have some other kind of
instinct that then takes you to the next level.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
So I just don't know if.
Speaker 7 (15:03):
There's a complacency issue within the youth sports for basketball.
And I'll take your answer off here.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
Thanks again, we appreciate that. And Chris, you did talk
about this already. Was it was it Larry Brown who
told you that.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Larry Brown told me back in nineteen ninety.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Six about them getting out of these countries. Though it's
what I'm said.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
The next great basketball hot bed is gonna be Eastern Europe.
And he said, because over there, these kids are playing
for their lives.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
They're like they're trying to do Poverty is intense.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
And I've been over there in Serbia, Rob, the poverty
is intense. It's nothing to see buildings that have been
bombed and years ago and.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
People just never can buy them. They're still living in
the neighborhoods and whatnot.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Right, it was weird, Rob going because you know, I've
been to Italy, Rome, in Italy, in different parts of Italy.
I've been to London, I've been to Spain and Madrid
and Paris and France, and you know, you go to
places like that, it's all you know, it's beautiful and
it's all that, right, you.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Know, all the old world buildings.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Yeah, that's terrific, Right, it's a it's a touristy. I
when I went to Serbia, Rob, and this is no exaggeration,
it was like being in the hood. I had never
seen Europe being places like that, but Eastern Europe is
like that. And it was like being in freaking Youngstown,
Ohio or downtown Detroit when all those buildings were boarded up.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
I don't know what they like now, but yeah, I
mean that's that they.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
They coming from some tough circumstances over there, and that's
you know, maybe one reason that they're they're so.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Such good out driven, so driven to get out of it.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
I don't think our kids get complacent, Rubd.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
I just think they're not being trained at the same
level as the players over in Europe.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Richard in Seattle, you're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
What's up Richard?
Speaker 11 (16:57):
Hey fella, Thanks then, I do appreciate your show.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Thank you.
Speaker 11 (17:00):
So there's only two sports in the really two worldwide sports,
soccer and hoop.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
And when you.
Speaker 6 (17:07):
Look at every team, big team in the world, you know,
the manchesters and stuff. All their teams are made up
of people from all over the world, players from all
over the world. The big difference though, between us and
the rest of the world is.
Speaker 11 (17:23):
That sports here are tied up in the school system
high school and university and college. Yes, the rest of
the world, that's not the case. Schools don't supply teams
and buses and travel and all that. Everywhere else it's
club teams. Anyway, listen, I love your show. I listened
to it almost every.
Speaker 6 (17:43):
Night when I'm making dinner.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
So thank you, guys, take care er.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
We've broached that before.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
I mean, over here, if you're fourteen and your grades
aren't good, you can't play.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Are you're not supposed to be able to.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
And I know kids who have not been able to
play for a season or whatever because their grades weren't
good even though they were in sensational athletes.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
And that is the difference.
Speaker 11 (18:09):
Rob.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
If you're fourteen over there, I mean, you're going to
play pro ball and you probably getting shootored.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
I'm gonna I'm gonna quote Doug Gottlieb. Okay, I'm gonna
quote Doug Gottlieb, Chris. When I tried out for Fox.
For for ESPN Radio, I tried out with Doug Gottlieb
on Game Night. Literally tried out the first time on
ESPN Radio was with Doug Gottlieb, and he talked about
dark Old Milicic, who was the pick for the Pistons, right,
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didn't didn't pan out, didn't work for the Pistons. He
probably Chris was ten or fifteen years too early right
when people because he the game that he plays now
is the European three. That good guy kid would have
been right. But my point was, Doug said to me
that night, I'll never forget it. He said Darko was
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the best fourteen or fifteen year old player he had
ever seen. Chris because he had already played with men. Yeah,
and he was already like a pro. He wasn't like
a fourteen year old playing high school basketball, right.
Speaker 6 (19:13):
Right.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
So that's that kind of talks about what you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Let's go to.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Chili, Tim in Atlanta. Tim, you're on the odd couple
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 12 (19:24):
Gentleman, everybody doing, are you what's up to? I'm good man,
I'm good. You know I'm a privilegist by saying I
have a grandson. He'll be eight in July. We share
the same birthday. He's already four foot eight.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
Right.
Speaker 12 (19:39):
So his dad played in the He played a little
bit in the NBA, and he played mostly overseas. Okay,
so his dad's working.
Speaker 13 (19:48):
With him now and he's really teaching.
Speaker 12 (19:52):
Him like fundamentals. He says, you know a lot of
the stuff that like American kids do, because he said
when he played overseas, he played with those guys. He's like,
the one thing he noticed, uh with those guys is
that they're very you know. He said, if they didn't
care if you could shoot, uh, you know, you know,
dribble a lot of things like you know, they made
sure that you can hand the ball passing like they
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drilled down. He said, a lot of American.
Speaker 13 (20:16):
Players that played overseas like he did. He was like,
they had to learn quickly, like, okay, all the lot
of stuff that we did over here that got us
to the NBA, and we thought, you know, was whatever.
He's like, we learned quickly that we had to change
up or we weren't going to be playing over here
very long. And he said, it's a different type of
game that they do over there, so they do concentrate
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on fundamentals passing, uh, you know, movement things like that.
So he said he learned that. So he's teaching my grandson.
Speaker 6 (20:48):
You know.
Speaker 12 (20:49):
Now, my grandson like he'll be ate this summer, but
he's already working with him on those type of skills.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
Now, Tim, did you say your grandson is four four eight?
Already he's taller than Chris's brother right now.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Already. That's the size of my mom four eight, I'll
tell you that.
Speaker 8 (21:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 12 (21:10):
So they said he's gonna probably end up being about
sixty nine.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
But I think look, five man basketball, which we used
to play here in the in the in the NBA.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Michael Jordan played five man basket.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
It wasn't a million years ago, like right, And even
the Warriors and the Spurs and the Nuggets now, like
they play that five man basketball.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
That's one thing I like about Anthony Edwards is that
he plays within the system.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
Right.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
He doesn't dominate the ball. He plays within the system
and stars within that system. And I think that's just
a better as far as winning. That's going if you
have if the talent is equal, and one team plays
five man basketball and another plays one or two man basketball,
and everybody's just space out and wait for these two
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guys to do everything and maybe pass you the ball
for a jump shot, the team that plays five man
ball is gonna win. That's just a it's a it's
just a better way to play the game. And so
I think that's, you know, that's what's lacking at a
lot of our levels.
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Speaker 5 (22:34):
Hey guys, how y'all doing?
Speaker 3 (22:36):
We are great?
Speaker 5 (22:37):
Man.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
We got a lot to get to, so let's get
it started.
Speaker 9 (22:40):
Rob.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Did you hear or see.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Jalen Roses tweet about NBA players or American players yesterday? Olden,
I'll read it to you if it sounds like you
haven't heard it. Here's what Jalen tweeted yesterday, and and
I have been talking about it and taking calls on it.
Dear us born basketball players, this is from Jalen put
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in that work tirelessly and show discipline, otherwise NBA jobs
are becoming extinct. Obviously he's talking about the international takeover.
If you want to call it that of the NBA.
What are your thoughts on what Jalen's saying.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
I mean, he has a right to make that statement,
but again it's more for whatever they call that click.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
What's an overstatement? We admit that Ye's.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
State copy, but I'm not buying it because it's still
limits under Europeans, you know, And I mean, granted, you
gotta understand these guys are getting better because they take
this thing seriously and at Madison and so to me
not to say that American plays aren't, but it's like
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it's so readily available for them. They have so many
different options. You know, if I don't make it in basketball.
I can go into football, I can go into soccer,
I can go into rap I can go So there's
just a lot of options for American kids, you know.
And so to me, because you got to remember basketball
was always an inner city game.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
And be talking.
Speaker 5 (24:15):
About black players? Is he talking about white players? You
talk about Mexican you know. So I don't know to
the extent of what he meant. You know, it's such
a broad statement. But yet European players are looking good
and they play, you know, with a different mentality. But
at the same time, it is what it is. Man,
It doesn't matter what the profession is. If you don't
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bust your butt, somebody's gonna be ready.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Well, let's go to the Lakers and their coach church.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
Obviously they're going to take this week time and one
of the leading candidates is JJ Reddick.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Maybe Olden, you.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
Could coach the Lakers, But what do you make of
JJ Redick is not like someone without coaching experiences has
never coached before. For but with this team and with
his relationship with Lebron, their podcast partners and Lebron, time
is running out. Is it time or is it wise
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to give Lebron an unproven coach at this point in
his career.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
Well, it would be a perfect situation for Lebron because
he'll get to do what he wants to do, which
is the coach and so or to at least control
the team. You put JJ Reddick in that situation, JJ
Redick will just be a figurehead for what Lebron wants
to do because he's gonna owe Lebron because he's the
guy pushing for this and asking for it. So to me,
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it's a bad move for the Lakers all the way around.
I would rather than just say, you know what, we're
going to make Lebron a player coach and let it
be that.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Do that, rather than just put JJ stand there.
Speaker 5 (25:53):
But if you do that, you're just saying that you
you know where we're gonna, you know, do whatever. Ron
once and I'm like ten fifteen years ago, Lebron, I'm
doing so many different things to keep him. But that's
not the same thing now. I mean, we'll talk about
a thirty nine year old dude that's twenty one years in.
It's way different. And that's what a lot of people
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are not seeing. It's not the same player anymore.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Olden you played in what I think was the golden
age of the NBA. Big Man is the best era
of Biggs ever in the NBA. I mean you, Alonzo Morning,
David Robinson, Shaquille O'Neal, Patrick Ewing, Hakeem, Elijahwan. You faced
all of those guys and more. How do you feel,
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how do you kind of compare Jokic to the ultra
elite players of your era as far as big men.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
You know what, I love watching Nikolojokic's play. He's a
very smart player. He stays within who he is. He's
a combination of Larry Bird. Larry Bird was not a
high leaper and fast runner or great defender, but he
knew how to play to his strengths and so to me,
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and he had great anticipation. Jokis is the same way
and so to me. Those are the comparisons and things
like that, But he would have succeeded in any era
because he's such a smart player. You know, we've had
guys built like him or even worse than him, and
so to me, you know, we try to make all
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these comparisons. At the end of the day, he's making
the most of what he has based on the rules
and the way they set up now, and so I'm
I'm glad that he knew he's smart enough to do that.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
I'm gonna keep taking you back down memory lane.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Now, you played at University of Virginia, and I remember
everybody was this is you followed Ralph Samson. Everybody's like,
this is the next Ralph Samson, Right, Ralph Samson.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
You know he wanted.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
To play outside, right, and everybody said he was soft
because he wanted to shoot Elvi all that stuff. And
obviously he still you know, he started out great in
his NBA career, twenty and eleven, went to the finals
with Elijahwan early in his career, and then of course
got injured and his career was never the same. How
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good I'm gonna ask you two ways. If he had
not gotten injured, how good would he have been? And
if he came in up into day's era where they
welcome big men shooting outside, would he possibly have been
maybe the first victor winm beg Yama or something like that.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
Well, I think I said this with you guys before
when we were talking about women. Y'am, I've seen this
movie before and it was Ralph Census seven four can
handle the ball, can shoot from outside and everything else.
And I remember, you know, playing against Ralph the summer
when I first got on campus, and I was like,
Holy crap, I'm glad I ain't got to match up
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with this dude, because it was like, it was insane
watching that because in that situation, he's not just posting up.
He's shooting jumpers. I mean pull up jumpers, you know,
coming off of screens. I was like, what the hell?
So I vaguely remember that, But at the same time,
the man is a Hall of Famer everything that happened
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in his career, so I don't know how much greater
he would have been. It would just would have been
more points and more rebounders. Statistically, it would have been greater.
But he's still a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Where are you on the Knicks? What do they have
to do moving forward?
Speaker 4 (29:44):
Obviously they were injuries and whatnot, but there were also
a lot of injuries in the Eastern Conference, and I
don't know if everybody was healthy whether the Knicks would
have been that close to going to the Eastern Conference finals.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Do they have enough?
Speaker 4 (29:57):
Do they need to make a big splash older, do
they need a another player?
Speaker 2 (30:01):
To go along.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
I know Julius Randall is a big part of that
team and he was out, but is that enough If
they want to get to the uh to the Eastern
Conference Finals, or even make it to the NBA Finals.
Speaker 5 (30:12):
They still need some more. They need a name guy,
They need a guy that can score. They need a
power forward that can rebound. Julius Randal does not fit
how these guys are playing right now because they are
so into one another, the Villanova three and the rest
of those guys. You know, when Julius Random was healthy
and playing, you could always see when he got frustrated
(30:34):
because he didn't get the ball and then it's like,
I'm going to track up a shot. And that's not
the style the Knicks are playing right now. The injury aspect,
you know, that's part of sports, but a lot of
it comes down to the fact that these guys were
playing way too many minutes, you know. I mean, you
get a Josh Bard who plays like three consecutive consecutive
(30:55):
games without subbing out. That's insane. I don't care what era,
it's insane. That's our man.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Figure out, that's our man. Old and Poling these great
stuff as always.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Brother you old and thank you.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
All right, guys, Trash Talking Tuesday is now eight seven,
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Speaker 3 (31:16):
You'll turn the way in.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
You got thirty to forty seconds to shoot your trash.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
That's next, Hakam.
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It's time, folks for trash Talking Tuesday.
Speaker 5 (32:17):
Don't you ever talk about me?
Speaker 7 (32:18):
It's trash Talking Tuesday's.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Tea Reggie, I don't know whether to smile. Let's you
kick a field, go man?
Speaker 4 (32:29):
All right, Chris, here we go, Let's kick it off
with Albert in Riverside, California. You're on the odd couple
of Fox Sports Radio. Who you Trashian Albert.
Speaker 14 (32:39):
Rob Parker, I'm trashing you, and I'm trashing Mike Malone
first with you all of her last the last week,
all the Timberwolves.
Speaker 7 (32:47):
They're not gonna win another game?
Speaker 15 (32:49):
Oh the joker easy to be top ten all time?
Speaker 14 (32:53):
Well, Minnesota said, hold my fear on that.
Speaker 5 (32:56):
For the for the Chicken Nuggets, they were. They are
the biggest.
Speaker 14 (32:59):
Front runners of one championship I've ever seen, especially at
Mike Malone after we sorted trash talking being a front
runner after being the Lakers last year and win that
one title against the eight Speeds. Well, your vacation's ready, one, two, three,
can coon.
Speaker 5 (33:15):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Nicely done that man, That was That was a lot.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
Thanks Albert from Riverside. Let's go to uh Innes in Corona, California.
You're on the yad couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
What's up? And is who your trash?
Speaker 16 (33:30):
I am trashing Draymond Green. I only trash clutch clients,
so it's Nick right, Lebron or Draymond. Raymond has zero
awareness when he's on the basketball court. He doesn't know
when to shove somebody and when to just step step
aside and walk away. This guy's talking about Indiana the
(33:51):
Pacers being an eighty two game regular season team.
Speaker 17 (33:54):
You are on the eighty three regular season game team
because you lost in the playing game. So I don't
even remember who New Orleans or Sacramento.
Speaker 15 (34:04):
I don't remember.
Speaker 17 (34:05):
But that's how relevant you've become. You get on TV,
you think you're this like really smart basketball mine, like
a Charles Barkley, because you're outspoken. You say a lot
of uneducated things, and you don't like you're trash. And
Rudy Gobert and he was the defining uh, he had
his defining moment in that series and against the Nuggets.
(34:26):
So you have no idea what you're talking about. And
this was an awful trash take by me.
Speaker 11 (34:29):
So sad you guys all right.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
There you go, look at that himself.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Unbelievable. Gary in Houston, we have a problem.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
You're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio. Who you're trashing?
Speaker 15 (34:42):
Gary, I'm you shams carried water for Kyrie Irving. Apparently
he also carried water for Lebron James. This guy's running
around saying Lebron's that no input on jiggit being the
head coach of and has him talked to Jig about
it since he is still comfortable reporting far best and
farcical things. I got a report for him yesterday. I
would come.
Speaker 12 (35:00):
I'm talking about the.
Speaker 15 (35:00):
Rockets after their scouts saw me get seventeen straight threes
at a pickup game. I'll Stephen Smith stout.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
Wow, wow, Wow, no holes barred man, Carrie's not playing?
Speaker 3 (35:14):
He sure is, Sham. I'm surprised you and I escaped
this shrapnel with Clutch.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Oh he is.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
I'm with Clutch.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Oh okay, all my agency.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
I mean we're connected U t A the same way
he Sham's and uh Nick Rdar with U t A
United Talent.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Okay, that makes sense. Okay, I didn't know that.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
Okay, here we go. Uh, I just know we say
it every you know day that I'm with Clutch.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
Yeah yeah, Mitch in New Jersey or the couple of
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Who you trashing?
Speaker 9 (35:52):
Mitch?
Speaker 6 (35:54):
What's cracking? Guys?
Speaker 8 (35:56):
I got? I don't hope I don't come Clutch mean,
but Michael Porter Jun I've been waiting for this guy
big staying at his cars and Grussa who said I've
never seen a family siblings three of them at the
Cadashians stand three quarters in the news in a month,
not in a lifetime, not a year. Man, it's a season,
(36:19):
but like in a month. One and Stephan never gonna
play bass, two are never're gonna play basketball again, and
hopefully than one. Jagon gets his act together. He's drinking
and driving. He's even a portal. What else you know,
everybody's in the portal. He's leaving Copdeen and I got
what school's going through.
Speaker 6 (36:37):
But hopefully he gets.
Speaker 8 (36:38):
His life together, and Michael Port will earn his money
and come through. I think that's why Denver didn't come through.
Maybe I'm making excuses, but.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
I think that, well, he wasn't good in that series,
no doubt, no doubt. He was great against the Lakers, great,
but not was.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
M I a as they say, Chris.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
Right, yeah, absolutely, all right, thanks Mitch, appreciate it. Yeah, Chris,
Uh what about Bo? Bow's always got something to say? Bo,
You trash everybody.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
Yeah, I mean one of the colors already did it.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
But we should say congratulations to Bow because he just
got he got his masters Chris.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
Vo, congratulations, thank you.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Awesome and h bow.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
When he was in school we had talked about I
was happy they was going to USC and this dude
is a hard working guy, family man and all that,
and he got his master's bow.
Speaker 18 (37:26):
You deserve proper thank you. I appreciate that. You guys
U one of the one of the colors already did it.
But yeah, Mike Malone, the Nuggets are a big old
group of front runners at peers because I just saw
this video of a Nicole Jokicic confronting Anthony Edwards for
waving to the crowd on uh whatever whatever night that
was in game seven. Yeah, yeah, and that's just you guys,
come on, get it together, Mike.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
She got to just accepted.
Speaker 18 (37:49):
Take your love said, waving, waving goodbye to the crowd
is like the most innoculous thing I think Anthony Edwards
could have done. So having a problem with that, and
then yeah, Mike Malone's a postgame presser, like, yeah, just
what that's.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
A question most question that there was a legit question.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
Chris, you are by twenty I mean, guy, you know what?
You know what though, Rob, for all.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
That he and understandably so that Mike Michael Malone's taking Rob.
You know, the reporter got the answer he wanted, Yes,
you wanted to see how upset he right, he got
He got the answer that you would want, rather than
some basic oh you know, hey you up twenty Yeah
it hurts a little more because you had the game
(38:32):
in your hand. Naw, you you got Now you know
how upset, how angry he was, you know all that.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
But it's just comical.
Speaker 4 (38:40):
He got next question as if he asked him, you know,
when did you stop beating your wife?
Speaker 2 (38:44):
Chris, so some like ridiculous question. I'm just like what
that was?
Speaker 3 (38:49):
That was right? No, it wasn't a bad It wasn't
a bad question at all.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
All right, it's the Eye couple, Chris and Rob. We
got one hour left here on the Eye couple, and
Boston's up forty seven thirty seven pacers of not ten
and a half hanging a little bit. We got an
hour left, y'all?
Speaker 3 (39:08):
Lock it, I couple