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January 5, 2026 37 mins

Rob and Kelvin argue whether Myles Garrett breaking the NFL’s single-season sack record is For Real or Fughazi, and tell us why they have a big problem with Philip Rivers reportedly being considered for NFL head coaching vacancies. Plus, former Pro Bowl wide receiver and Up on Game co-host TJ Houshmandzadeh swings by to discuss his confidence level in Aaron Rodgers and the Pittsburgh Steelers heading into the playoffs, where Pete Carroll went wrong with the Las Vegas Raiders, the early returns on Shedeur Sanders in Cleveland, and much more!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (01:15):
Don't forget coming up in about twenty eight minutes.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
TJ Houshman's out of the former Pro Bowl wide receiver
co host.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
Of Up on Game on Fox Sports.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
Wait, I do want to ask you something, Rob g
you have some odd mob stuff to read, but real quick, Yeah,
I did tweet in the group chat. I had a
couple of bets. I'm not gonna say who should I
say who? But I got need a bet? I want money?

Speaker 3 (01:44):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
Was that a flex? Or is that just cool? Because
I was just because just sharing it with you.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
It was a flex. It was a.

Speaker 4 (01:53):
Flex because, in the words of Rob Parker Doug Gutley,
why don't you want me on the show?

Speaker 3 (01:59):
When you right?

Speaker 4 (02:01):
I want a picture of a bet? When Rob's wrong? Like,
hey I missed this one, but it was close, Rob.
He made a little sense there. I was gonna stall
you out a little bit.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
Actually, you know.

Speaker 4 (02:09):
Rob was like, come look at me, celebrate me. This
is what I did. Don't worry about anything else that
don't be sending us. How much money you want, you
ain't gonna break exactly. And I never got to participate
any of that money that.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
Don't be sending me.

Speaker 5 (02:23):
That was a nice text. If it's fifty bucks, I
give you keep that to admit, at least.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
I put some money on the cheese right and on
the Steelers. It was seven and a half. That's what
people in Vegas got. Seven and a half. They won
a long time ago with eight wins. But anyway, anyway,
you're breaking us off.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
No top g what he got mob?

Speaker 4 (02:43):
No, he's on brand. I love it on mob. The
YouTube beans what they said a lot of interesting conversation.
Michael Thompson says.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
Michael Thompson got to him, Michael, Michael Kevin, what's it?

Speaker 5 (02:55):
Let me ask you something. That's what I ask you something,
Michael Thompson.

Speaker 4 (03:00):
It says every pandemic counts strip in the black neighborhoods
all the time. Rob was black for a day.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
I'm always blind. Wait wait, why hold on? Who was
that to say that?

Speaker 5 (03:10):
Michael, Michael Thompson. Why they only count in the black communities?
What's up with thats got to be?

Speaker 3 (03:14):
Now? I'm about to go to Orange County. That's gotta
be right good. You're gonna drive eighty miles just to
get you some old principle.

Speaker 5 (03:19):
I'm about to go down where are you? I'm about
to go to Beverly Hills, of brickwood or something. I
need to find us six or seven trunk just to.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
See how they do it.

Speaker 4 (03:26):
A brother, and then the official mayor of the odd Mob,
Sean says Rob hearing Rob was right so much, he's
gonna blow through a pack of Newport one hundred and
bottle of about five PM. And then this next stretch.
I don't know how this started, but at some point
in hour one, Calvin became the guy to steal on
because we got a whole string of people. What Kelvin

(03:47):
looked like? Jay Lopez says, Calvin the type of guy
the rock air brownie shoes.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
Wow, come on.

Speaker 4 (03:56):
Though, the hobo man says Calvin looks like he wears
socks with sandals. Here's another word, h Calvin the type
of dude to wear a turtleneck to Magic City. I
don't know why that started, but there was a whole
running because so that.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
Got on the for those on radio.

Speaker 5 (04:14):
Obviously, I got on like a long sleeve professional shout
out to shout, shout, hi out, Rober, you know who
I'm talking about. You know, I got found a little
nice little brand, so it's like a professional had it
all buttoned up.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
Then I had my suit over it. At you didn't
have a TV.

Speaker 5 (04:25):
At you don't wear some days, you don't act like
you don't watch me every more.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
No, I just said that, and I'm just saying I
know you.

Speaker 5 (04:32):
I'm not going to give you the satisfaction get him
on TV.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
You're getting no radis from me. Kelvin watching and.

Speaker 5 (04:38):
He turned so fast, bro, because you know we automatically
come on a TV.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
Me so mad, Like I can't even if they automatically go,
you go right to channel one.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
I love it.

Speaker 5 (04:50):
We're Lee at when I need him. Lee was like, yeah,
he's like Rob, I like watching Kevin on there. No, No,
don't be happy. You get to wake up and be like, man,
I give it to hang out with this guy for
three hours not coming up later.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Robin Roberts was given a speech in Detroit and me
and Stony this is when my old partner were doing
the Odd Couple in Detroit and we were the mcs
for the event. So I got to I don't know
how I got to introduce Robin Roberts. This is way
back in the day, you know, in the nineties, when
she was on ESPN, and so then I.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
Just looked into the crowd. I was like, you know what,
this woman I wake up.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
I wake up with this woman every Sunday morning while
I'm in bed.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
Hey, and the look on her face is like, oh God,
is that the intro? But she was you know that was.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
Show back then was the Sunday early So we're glad
you said that was the nineties.

Speaker 5 (05:43):
Yes, I couldn't do that. That would have beat me down.
The joke's a little different nowadays. What's why when you
go back to those old stand ups, you'd be.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
Like, oh no, it's totally different. They hit a little different.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
All right, rob Gee, we had some I guess history
made yesterday in the National Football.

Speaker 4 (06:00):
Yes, you guess. I guess that was history made. They
stopped the game to celebrated. That's how much history was made.
Miles Garrett pass Rusher Extraordinary out of Cleveland is the
new NFL single season sack king.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
That's right.

Speaker 4 (06:14):
Yesterday took down Joe Burrow in the fourth quarter of
a win by the way for Cleveland as they got
the w over Cincinnati. And he is now, if you
want to call Michael Strahand the sixteen game sack leader,
Miles Garrett now the seventeen game exactly.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
I guess got it. I'm not.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
Miles Garrett is a tremendous player, but that's a Fu
Gaysey Award and a Fu Gaysey honor in that he
had He needed seventeen games to do what Michael Strahan
did at sixteen.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
So right away I got an issue with it.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
I really do stopping a game for that, And that
was the worst sack you could have. Joe Burrow took
two steps, fell down and he just touched him like that.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
That was no sacked.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
I know it was because it was behind a line
of scrimmage and you you know, if you touch him
he's down, you get credit for that.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
But it was just so lame.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
And they're stopping for what that team is like four
and something like it's it's a moment, but nobody knows.
Nobody knows what the sack number is or the all
time sack king.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
This ain't like I told Rob.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
Gidi earlier, and you don't even have to be a
baseball when Cal Ripken, you know, played in more consecutive
games than Lou Garritt, Like that was a moment, like
that was that was something that got over two thousands
of our games or whatever, you know what I mean
in that moment when Pete Rose had the all time
hit leader becoming that, or when Hank Aaron at first

(07:49):
and then Barry Bonds hit the all time home run.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
But are we gonna stop the game for everything?

Speaker 1 (07:53):
And then the NFL has fudged all of the records
because of adding games. Then you're gonna have an eighteen
game season in a couple of years, and then somebody
will have twenty four sacks and eighteen games. Oh I'm
the I'm the champ. It can't be based off of
that if you're going to have a different number of

(08:13):
games and the thing that always and you have to
look at it and go how many.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
Games did you play? Right?

Speaker 1 (08:22):
Not how many games did you play that season? How
many games did you play? And then it has to
be based off of something like that to make it
consistent or legitimate. I got no thrill out of it.
To me, it just was stinky and if I put
my hand on it, I would have to wash it.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
It was a three dollar bill celebration.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
To me, what are you doing on a terrible Browns
team where that's the end of the world. That to
stop the game, not that, not that he can't be
recognized or whatever.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
What are you stopping the game for?

Speaker 5 (08:53):
Well, I tell you you ever heard of a sexist?
You ever heard of a racist? What about a sportsist?
You just set up here and tell me all the
wonderful things baseball can do.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
Home run record, I'll tell you this record, base Bud.
That's this the muss Starke Severbot. He would always hear
about baseball, and you know I like baseball.

Speaker 5 (09:11):
My point is, that's an amazing stat that, dude, one
singular person is getting that amount of sex.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
Not a team, not a.

Speaker 5 (09:20):
The Jets entire team couldn't get one interception. So the
man got twenty something sacks to celebrate that. Not to
mention you talk about that way sack, the way he
did it, I agree, wasn't like he laid him out
and knocked his helmet off. But Joe Burrow was gonna
get sacked regardless. He adn't have nowhere to go. He
literally was squished in. He had nowhere to go, and
he did a Tom Brady Payton man. He made a
business decision. Set of getting my head knocked off, I'm

(09:42):
gonna go ahead and have a seat. Miles Garrett has
been remarkable. He's been incredible, and then he had this.
Somebody posted a picture him at fourteen. I need a
birth certificate.

Speaker 3 (09:51):
You know. I used to joke about the Dominican players
in the Little League. He's a monster. Like, what the heck?
That didn't make it? He said Bob Ge We interviewed him, right,
was that last year or two years ago? There wasn't
me so I had there been two years ago? Yeah,
I don't.

Speaker 5 (10:03):
But I don't mind the celebration. They stop it with
rushing records. They stop it with Drew Brees and the
passing records. Uh, they stop it all the time when
it's a massive record in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
The massive.

Speaker 5 (10:15):
That's a big Okay, No, nobody's want. Nobody before this
knew what the record was.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
I just disagree. Is I just think Michael Strahan it
was a big because he J Watt tied it three
years ago. Do you remember the ceremony for TJ will
give you that?

Speaker 1 (10:27):
No, you do, not giving you because they didn't even
have a ceremony.

Speaker 5 (10:31):
That's what I'm trying to They didn't have a ceremony.
They just they just why he tied the record? Why
wouldn't you why wouldn't you have a ceremony for TV?
They not stop it. I don't literally don't remember. Nobody
remembers that, Rob J. Can you confirm? And was TJ
watt get a stoppage?

Speaker 3 (10:46):
Oh well, he tied. He ain't break it. What are
you talking about? Broke it? He but he's gotta break this. No,
you don't. You gotta break it. His name is mentioned.
He didn't break just he ain't break it.

Speaker 5 (10:55):
He didn't break just the record, rob what do you
always talking about? Sports has two things and the menu
wins and losses. He ain't breaking. He tied it, don't
nobody wants to ties, TJ. Now back to what I
was saying, No, honestly, I got I don't mind. It's
it's a It's an incredible feed by in one singular
individual like to get that many sacks. There's teams who

(11:16):
probably barely had that many sacks. And the worst part
about it for him is but it's his decision. We
both said it. You tell me it's about winning. You
tell me it's just time to move on. You tell
me you've had enough, you're giving you all to Cleveland,
And they finally say.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
Hold up, bit here's the breaks truck, and he say,
you know what.

Speaker 5 (11:35):
I love clean and now you're suffering.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
Your team is five and twelve. He said, I don't
want to win so bad that your door can be
the quarterback.

Speaker 5 (11:45):
Don't do that. Don't do that. We'll talk to you
next year, right. But no, So I don't mind. I
don't mind a quick little honoring and celebrating to me.
I don't I don't, I don't mind it. These dudes
work incredibly hard. It's a it's a big deal, something
that doesn't happen.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
Every year, you know.

Speaker 6 (11:59):
So I.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
Just didn't do it. We do that.

Speaker 5 (12:03):
So and so breaks the sport. They stopped the game
and whatever. You don't stop the game. The Bengals were
trying to run a play right after that. Now you're
gonna have run play for y'all about be in Can't cold?
In two seconds? Hold on, let us enjoy this moment.
Can't Cold Ain't going nowhere?

Speaker 1 (12:16):
Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven
nine nine six sixty three sixty nine is moles Garrett's
uh sack record for real or fu gayzy whenever I
could get fogazy.

Speaker 5 (12:29):
You do like you ruined for Gayzy. By the way,
that's just not what I want to say it. I'm like, ah, this,
you can't say Rob took.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
The word over and did you have a problem with
them stopping the game to celebrate them eight seven, seven
ninety nine on Fox.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
We'll continue that conversation next with you.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
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Speaker 6 (13:43):
Well.

Speaker 5 (13:44):
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Speaker 3 (13:50):
Who s'm's out of?

Speaker 5 (13:50):
Getting ready to come up in about seven minutes or
so and looking forward to talking to him? For over
forty years, over forty years, you know what? Forty rings
a bell? Rob said, forty rings of bell, especially starting
in about twenty four hours or so, just saying forty
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Oh yes, okay, I guess all, I'm saying four zero.
It's amazing. Yeah.

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Speaker 5 (14:27):
Eight seven seven ninety nine On Fox, Miles Garrett sets
the single sack single season sack record and Rob poo
Pood on the celebration poop Pood on the award. I
call him a sportist because if they stopped it for
something in baseball, he'd be, oh, oh god, that would
an amazing record. I was there I was covering it.

(14:47):
Oh god, oh go a seven seven ninety nine on Fox.
Cool record to be broken or no big dealer?

Speaker 3 (14:52):
What are your thoughts?

Speaker 1 (14:52):
All right, let's go. James in Detroit. You're on the
couple of Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
What's up, James?

Speaker 6 (15:00):
How you.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
I'm good?

Speaker 6 (15:03):
Hey?

Speaker 7 (15:03):
Rob?

Speaker 6 (15:04):
You know?

Speaker 7 (15:05):
Uh?

Speaker 8 (15:06):
I think I read something They said.

Speaker 9 (15:08):
A Baker Bubba Baker head twenty three sacks, and then
when they played Buffalo, they gave Mom Gearing a half
a sack because he touched the guy after another guy
touched the guy. So I don't know.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
Hold on, y'all over he over here, FBI agent on
the sacks? You know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (15:33):
Hey James, you know, James, James, it's for gayzy.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
It's a three dollar bill.

Speaker 8 (15:38):
Dam And I'm like they gave him a sack after another.
When when Josh y'allen went back and gave himself up,
they was gonna give him a safety and another guy
touched he yep, and mall getting touchy. They gave him
half a sack for that.

Speaker 5 (15:52):
Crazy all right, James, appreciate they get people half sacks
like that's what they do.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
Right.

Speaker 5 (15:58):
Matt in Pittsburgh yeah, a couple of sports thirty five years.

Speaker 3 (16:02):
What's up, Mac?

Speaker 7 (16:03):
Yeah, yes, what's up?

Speaker 4 (16:05):
Boys?

Speaker 7 (16:05):
What's up? And yet trash? And if we're talking about
what do we investigative research? I mean yes, if you're
counting sacks and counting half a sacks, that's exactly what
you do.

Speaker 5 (16:17):
Think about his half a sack. If he touched one
with down, he got a half a sack.

Speaker 7 (16:21):
All right, all right, chill, chill. So when PJ. Watt
broke the sack or tide the sack record in twenty
twenty one, it took me to the last game of
the season. He was robbed out of two solo sacks,
went back and given a half a sack. Then when
he made the sack. First of all, they did not
stop the game. No one cared.

Speaker 3 (16:39):
Of course they did, of course they did. That's what
we do now.

Speaker 7 (16:42):
We stopped the game for everything records. Hey when actually
I'm sorry, he would have broke the record and been
a solo leader, but they called it a one yard
loss on a Lamar Jackson run instead of a sack.
My point is Mount Darret's last back and a half
were completely trashed. You thank you, running back in the

(17:03):
flat yep, that was some Brett form stuff.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
And you so he just fell down. He didn't get sacked.
He fell down. To be honest with y'all, I'm blown
away right now.

Speaker 7 (17:14):
Single team of the game, only single team of the
game on Miles Garrett. They knew it and he laid down. Yeah,
I mean he gave him that and to stop the
game and be carried off the field. Cleveland's a mistaken
thank you said.

Speaker 5 (17:28):
The whole thing is ridiculous, robb Gie. I didn't know
we had sack police out here to Hey. I'm just saying, hey, hey, Alex.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
When I was in high school, I half sacked met
second base.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
You know what I mean. I'm just rob caution, come
here off, pull him down.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
Just a full sack of not eight seven seven ninety
nine on full Okay, just go to breathe just go.

Speaker 3 (17:52):
No, wait a bit eight seven seven yo, rob G.
Who's gonna pay us a dollar more?

Speaker 10 (17:59):
Bro?

Speaker 3 (18:00):
We ain't gonna make it what we ain't gonna make you,
rob G. We're the new Year. We're getting closer every day.
You're lucky. I'll just you lucky.

Speaker 5 (18:06):
I just talked to the bosses individually, and they both
love us and love what we're doing.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
We ain't going nowhere shorn in Sacramento.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
The couple fock sean left.

Speaker 11 (18:19):
Yeah, I'll go from another brother cousin kill me. My
brother's by the board. I'd be twenty twenty six to all,
y'all beautiful phases. Man, y'all killing it on YouTube as usual.
There's a couple of notes in the first hour. Uh
that that that Tunjabi MC theme music is diabolical work.
I'm gonna he's gonna come into.

Speaker 5 (18:37):
Eight star with no that's diabolical. And and three the
dances with y'all out of line.

Speaker 11 (18:41):
Jesus man, y'all definitely ain't gonna make it five years. Kelvin,
you look like the type of brother to get his
hair does and then go hat shopping in the same hour,
and real quick, man.

Speaker 5 (18:52):
I ain't gonna live myb do get mad when I
do that? All right, appreciate the cut. Put a hat
on him like what you went most of the time. Yeah,
that's true, this.

Speaker 11 (18:59):
Topic real quick over Robb, You've been right all of
twenty twenty five, but your dead a wrong with this
win bro. First of all, Man, he plays for the
Cleveland Browns, can you name any other person on that
defensive line. Don't worry, I'll wait.

Speaker 7 (19:12):
Second of all, he got that sack.

Speaker 11 (19:14):
It's not a Bratt Faarr situation where he was looking
to give that man And on the very last snap
of the very last offensive drive, he just laid down,
smiling and winking at the camera. He had to go
out there and get it against the arching them ands,
his Bengals and lastly, man, what else are they going
to celebrate in Cleveland? Shador winning Rookie of the Year.
Let's be honest. They needed something for those season. Take

(19:35):
a hold of the saying they see one last game
and I'm glad they got it. Calvin, keep this man
in line. He getting out of pocket with his wins
in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 3 (19:42):
Oh, he's just a sportist. He's a sport.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
Twenty twenty six, or just telling you guys, you think
I'm stopping.

Speaker 5 (19:49):
Oh yeah, that's that's our name of the game, Like
you always said, that's why they got buildings in Vegas.
Right now, because you think you're on fire and you're
not all right?

Speaker 3 (19:56):
Coming up? Who's TJ Who's was not going to join
us right now? Breez is gonna get you updated, Heybury.

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Speaker 3 (20:12):
And we are joined now. But our man TJ.

Speaker 5 (20:15):
Houschman's out of former Pro Bowl wide receiver co host
of up on Game A Fox Sports Radio, the slickest
ponytail in the game.

Speaker 3 (20:24):
Hey, I said, what do you put it in? He said,
nothing but juices and beers. So let me wantch to tjh.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
Has anybody ever tackled you that way, grabbing that ponytail
bringing you down for a loss?

Speaker 6 (20:36):
Nah, they haven't tackled me, but I know it was
times in the pile. Guys will grab my ponytail at times.

Speaker 3 (20:41):
That's why we try.

Speaker 6 (20:43):
To piss me off and make me mad.

Speaker 9 (20:44):
For sure.

Speaker 3 (20:45):
He's not you mad about it? Right now? This week
some people grabbed my ponytail. You could do a lot
of things. You ain't why you ain't? Never, man, bunny,
Nah never.

Speaker 6 (20:56):
I wear it in the bun now all the time.
But when I was playing, I just put in the
pony tail and let's go there.

Speaker 3 (21:02):
You go, Well, hey, let's go here.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
I don't want to say I told Kelvin I saw,
but I told Kelvin so about ten wins for the Steelers,
Aaron Rodgers would make a difference. You watched him play
last night. Just talk about what he delivered last night
in a playoff game.

Speaker 3 (21:20):
That's what that was. Last night.

Speaker 6 (21:23):
I felt like Aaron Rodgers. He willed the Steelers the victory. Really,
especially in the fourth quarter that the game got tight.
The Ravens go up, Steeves come back and score, the
Ravens go up, the Steelers come back and score. And
that was the experience, the moxie, the talent of Aaron Rodgers.
He was able to keep the team calmless. Man, I've

(21:43):
been here before, I got you. And if you listen
to what they said on that last touchdown of Calvin Awson,
he asked Calvin Awson, what you want to run? Kelvin
Alson was indecisive. He said, man, just run to hitch
and go.

Speaker 8 (21:55):
And so as he was calling.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
His own plays, right, Aaron Rodgers caught, well, you remember
that the headphone is shoe go ahead, and.

Speaker 6 (22:02):
That's what it looks like. And so you have to
attribute a lot of what the Steelers did offensively to
Aaron Rodgers, especially not having.

Speaker 3 (22:10):
DK, thank you. That's a big thing.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
And TJ if I told you Aaron Rodgers before the game,
with those forty seven passes, that would have meant that
the Ravens walked by twenty one?

Speaker 3 (22:22):
Am I right? That he had to throw his way
back in the game.

Speaker 6 (22:25):
Yeah, And you know what was crazy about the amount
of passes that they attempted. They ran the ball very effectively,
So that was that was the part that was stunning.
But yeah, Aaron Rodgers, man, everybody thought like, why are
the Steelers going after them all? Wise? This is why
it's like this. Games like that is when you need

(22:45):
a quarterback that's been there, done that and the moment
is not going to be too big for him, and
it wasn't.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
So let me ask you this.

Speaker 5 (22:52):
They lose in the first round to the text gonna win,
they lose in the first round of Texas because you know,
good and well, the Ravens could not They even said
on the telecast they couldn't get what. He can't handle
his pressure right now at this age he's a historically
great at it. But I'm saying that's this version of him.
Now they lose to text help and here we are
here we are same thing.

Speaker 3 (23:12):
No lose in the first round with Tomlin? What do
you do?

Speaker 6 (23:17):
Honestly, I'll be honest, I kind of agree with you, Tother.
I don't think they're gonna beat the Texans. I don't.
I feel like that pass rush that the Texans are
going to generate with four guys When you.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
Have question, I'm just asking ahead.

Speaker 6 (23:35):
Now when you have the Neil Hunter and Will Anderson
on opposite side, what what are you going to do? Now?
The key is can the Texans offense there? You go
generate enough points to where they put the pressure on him,
because offensively they've been up and down the ton. Now conversely,

(23:56):
can that offensive line of the Texans block the book
is that the Steters have with TJ. Watt and Heismith
And so it's not gonna be easy. But I'll say,
Aaron Rogers is now gonna face pressure and he had
faced it in a long time, and how is he
gonna react to that? Can that secondary of of Stingley
and Lasseter? Can they just keep DeKay and check if

(24:18):
they can do that. I really do like their chances.
I don't know what the weather's gonna be like in Pittsburgh,
but I know it's gonna be cold as.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
Hell, you know, outdoors in Pittsburgh. That's a different scenario
playing football. Uh, Pete Carroll, I've been calling for it
all year. I thought it was a terrible hire by
the Raiders and that team.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
We agreed on that, and as back far like a
month or two ago, we you know, I was like,
if they need to fire him. He got a one
and done even though he had a three year contract,
got a nice golden parachute for retirement, but they didn't
do anything well.

Speaker 3 (24:53):
He deserved to get fired, TJ. The Raiders were a
mess this year.

Speaker 6 (24:58):
If you know what, man, I think Pete kind of
hurt himself when he said we're gonna compete right away.
I don't expect this to be a rebuild. I expect
to compete right away. So he hurt himself. But I'll
say this, what Pete Carroll has done for football in
general at USC, at the collegiate level, at the NFL

(25:20):
level with the Seahawks won in the Super Bowl, should.

Speaker 3 (25:22):
Have won, should be terrible.

Speaker 6 (25:26):
He accomplished a lot, but when he went to the Raiders,
and he said last offseason, I expect to compete right away.
The expectations were, Okay, we're gonna be in the picture
at the end of the season. We're gonna be in
a Carolina Tampa Bay type game, Baltimore Ravens Pittsburgh Steelers

(25:47):
type game at the end of the season where we win,
wein And that wasn't the case. But Pete Carroll has
been a great coach at every level of football and
so he's done a lot. But it's over for him now.
And like you said, man, they say the off with
a great retirement, you he won.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
I ain't gonna.

Speaker 5 (26:06):
Look, I got two more years left on that vacation.
If you're like pink, is he about to be on
vacation chilling? And I think they gave him a Golden
Walker too as.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
A part against that might have been and maybe a
little Rolex too.

Speaker 5 (26:20):
I'm just saying TJ was out of our guests on
the Eye Couple form of course, pro ball polar receiver
co host of up on Game of Fox Sports Radio.
Let's look a little hit. I know we got we
have days as there.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
Yet you can playoffs because there's some other stuff should Okay,
this fine. If I wanted to what Chador had a
terrible The numbers are not.

Speaker 3 (26:40):
Lead the witness. Maybe he thought had a fine season
given everything. Okay, go ahead, t J. I'm just he
had the lowest rob G What was it? What was
the lowest.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
Quarterback rating for any Browns quarterback over six starts?

Speaker 3 (26:54):
Ever? Like ever?

Speaker 5 (26:56):
And I bet that's all You're more optimistic about him.
I'm just all that, not all what.

Speaker 6 (27:03):
I felt like. The situation that he was put in.
It seemed as if Kevin Stefanski didn't want to play him.
It seems as if he didn't have the support of Stefanski.
He was just thearing As a player, you feel that,
and you like, damn, he don't even am like he
just playing me because he really don't have a choice.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
And so does that mean.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
He can't Does that mean he can't not throw interceptions
or not throw the ball up for grabs?

Speaker 3 (27:31):
I get that, I.

Speaker 6 (27:32):
Do, but you're you throw it up? Okay? Me personally,
I like when my quarterback throws it up for grabs
because it ain't fifty to fifty, it's eighty twenty. It's
a completion, it's incomplete or it's passing afference. I'm not
letting that when you throw a fifty to fifty ball up,
you can't let that ball be intercepted if you're a receiver,
like when Jerry Judy let that ball get intercepted, Like, bro,

(27:53):
what are you doing. You're making us look bad as receivers.
When a quarterback throws a ball he shouldn't throw, don't
let that ball get intercepted, don't drop, don't lead the
league in drops. And so in his defense, he didn't
have guys that were guys one on one. I'm going
to him for sure.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
But the only problem TJ And seriously, and I hear you.
I'm not sitting here like the Browns have all this
great talent. But that's what happens usually with quarterbacks and
they get drafted, they get to play early because they're
on bad teams. You're not going to play for the
Chiefs or some great teams because they already win and
have good players. So a lot of times, right, that's

(28:34):
what happens to young players. They have to go on
bad teams and take their lumps and whatnot. But we
saw like Joe Burrow got to Cincinnati and you know
this he only played six or seven games his first year,
gets hurt, comes back, leads them to the Super Bowl
of next year, and they weren't.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
Ready to win already. Nobody was thinking the Bengals were going.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
And I'm not saying he's got to be Joe Burrow,
but it can't be that everything he does bad is
because the co But the coach is the other players,
it's Judy. He'd rather have Judge Judy catching balls out
there for him, you know, and all that.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
Like, well, like he didn't do anything wrong. That's the
problem I have.

Speaker 6 (29:12):
He has to you have to take some of the fault,
because this is the thing about playing quarterback. They get
way too much credit with VI well, so you have
to you have to be able to take some of
the blame. Did you play great? No, you did not.
Nobody cares that you were Ricky, Nobody cares that it
seemed that your folks didn't want to play. Nobody cares

(29:34):
that you didn't have a great supporting cast, because if
you played great, you would have received all the credit.
So of course he has to take some blame. Now,
what he's gonna have to do is really gonna work
on his game, go work on what he feels like.
He's not doing well because this next coach that comes in,
he don't care who the quarterback is. He just wants

(29:55):
to win.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
Well, I already know who the quarterback is gonna be
next year in Cleveland. That's de Sean Watson.

Speaker 5 (30:00):
I just don't totally get your money. They owe him
so much money. He ain't He's gonna They're gonna try
him one more year. Man, I'm just telling you, no.

Speaker 7 (30:09):
I don't.

Speaker 6 (30:10):
I'll say this, he will be given an opportunity. That's
just how the league works.

Speaker 3 (30:15):
Yep.

Speaker 6 (30:16):
I'm not paying a guy close to fifty million dollars
to do nothing here and do nothing. He will be
given an opportunity. For me, it's like, I maybe I'm delusional.
I'm just like, all right, this is gonna be the
year we're gonna see the Houston Texas Deshaun Watson. I
just don't know if that will ever come. Probably not one.

(30:36):
He will be given an opportunity.

Speaker 10 (30:38):
We know that with that amount of money, you want
to look just like this year to me, where they're
gonna start three three two three for diven guys should
maybe he gets watched and gets a couple maybe get
whoever they particularly draft this season.

Speaker 3 (30:50):
All right, we gonna stop it there.

Speaker 5 (30:51):
Man, who's appreciate you is always just can't wait to
talk more? And uh, we got the playoffs coming up. Man,
We're about to get ready.

Speaker 3 (30:59):
Uh and the Ravens real quick, who'sha? I know, we
gotta go.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
I'm sorry we talked about I know I've meant brought
this up to you before, John Hawball, and I'm sorry,
Like this is the way their season ends all the time?

Speaker 3 (31:12):
Do you change your stakes? And we brought this up
before and you were you gotta.

Speaker 6 (31:15):
Win that game.

Speaker 3 (31:16):
You have to win that game.

Speaker 6 (31:17):
You gotta win it. For the life of me, I'm
watching the game and I'm telling myself, why did you
guys try to get four or five six weeks after?

Speaker 3 (31:25):
Thank you? And you got the time and you got
to and you got timeouts?

Speaker 6 (31:29):
What are you doing that you had a time out
with fourteen seconds left? Yeah, you get Like forty four
yards is not a chip shot for a ricky quarterback
in that I mean a rickey kicker in that weather.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
Right, And they said that was his first walk off attempt.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
Dude, TJ.

Speaker 3 (31:44):
He never he never had a walk off attempt. That's
his first one.

Speaker 6 (31:48):
I would have liked for them to run another play
and try to get yards. Like, what are we doing?
You have to have a time out? What are we doing?

Speaker 3 (31:57):
Exactly? Crazy? Hey, appreciate it. Who's we agree that? All right? Man,
we'll do it again next week.

Speaker 6 (32:03):
All right, fella's take care work, no doubt, thank you.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
Brother.

Speaker 5 (32:06):
All right, you know what's black Monday? But uh, there's
already somebody that people are saying you might want to
consider as a head coach. And it's shocking who it is.
We'll tell you who it is next. It's Tiakapa. Fox
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Speaker 2 (32:18):
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Speaker 3 (32:31):
Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 5 (32:32):
A couple Rob Parker kelvin Washington on a Magic City
Monday shots to TJ Hoo. Sminzata just joined us. Rob
G will have the podcast up there, laid back to you.
Oh yeah right, super cool dude.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
Man. You would know you all used to have to
show the pop and the podcast together.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
Lemon Pepper parlay Man so he was good on his
football bats.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
Too, so good. It was so good. Oh, well, you.

Speaker 5 (32:54):
Got a card over there, go get some. Uh, be
sure to check out the brand new YouTube. I'm going
to the two for one one special. That's what what
is that called?

Speaker 3 (33:02):
I think?

Speaker 7 (33:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (33:03):
You get Thursday, you get the bone like you buy
six and you get six free.

Speaker 5 (33:08):
Right, you're a walking coupon like you all the deals
and coupons and us.

Speaker 3 (33:14):
The thing I'm mad is that cheesecake. Fact. We never
has two for one. Yeah, they ain't doing that, not
with those people.

Speaker 5 (33:20):
Now listen the day that they do and I'm not here,
just grab your boy one just just automatically.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
Alex would like the vanilla beans sometimes and when when
we're splurging and we're doing it right, Alex will go
grab me on the but.

Speaker 3 (33:32):
Yeah, give me the the ress. F y.

Speaker 5 (33:34):
If you ever go, matter of fact, you go on Friday,
I'm not gonna see you till Monday.

Speaker 3 (33:38):
Yeah Friday, I can't get that for you.

Speaker 5 (33:41):
Then yeah, but next time if you ever go, you
run on a random day when you have your milkshake
day and you're just feeling like, just go there, get.

Speaker 3 (33:48):
Me a cheesecake milkshake, reaff price the ress. I appreciate that.
Check out the YouTube r on it.

Speaker 5 (33:53):
Now all you gotta do is go to YouTube slash
odd couple FSR odd couple FSR on YouTube like ship
thumbs up, subscribe all that good stuff, all right, robb
gi oh Man Rivers, he said, uh, I'm gonna roll on.

Speaker 4 (34:07):
I'm not gonna play anymore, but he might do something else. Right, Oh,
this is the gift that keeps on giving. You know
how much I love old people doing stuff. Philip Rivers
is taking that take into the stratosphere because, according to
ian Rapport NFL Network, NFL teams were so impressed that
number one Philip Rivers is able to come off the
couch and play reasonably well for the Indianapolis Colts there

(34:29):
for a couple of games. Couple with the.

Speaker 12 (34:31):
Fact that, let me finish this take, coupled with the
fact that Philip, to his breaking point you have there
twice led Saint Michael Catholic and Alabama to the state
semi finals.

Speaker 4 (34:49):
NFL teams are reportedly interested in interviewing him for upcoming
head coaching vacancies during this cycle.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
Don't sit there like you're not thrilled about this. Listen.

Speaker 5 (35:02):
I like Philip seems like a great guy, swell guy.
But this has gone too far, like the Netflix Disney
movie they're making right now, because now he comes back
in plays, which is already crazy, and now they're talking
about you know, it might not be a good you know,
it might be a good coach. Go see Jeff Saturday
as an example. Go see Steve Nash as an example. Sorry,

(35:24):
uh pre. My point is just the idea that you
could just simply jump into these positions that it takes
people years to get ready, for years ups and downs,
years understanding the systems, years of understanding not just that
but people and organizations. Any idea he could just come
in and coach And I'm not seeing he might be
a fine coach in a few years.

Speaker 3 (35:43):
But can he come in?

Speaker 5 (35:44):
Can he be an assistant coach, can be an offensive coordinator,
can be a quarterback coach? Can he be a you know,
a line of offensive line something. The idea he just
come in, you get a key to a franchise to him,
that's that's over the time. And this is what I'm
talking about right here in this in Disney or or
Netflix is trying to make a movie out of this,
and you know the old man who came back and
played and then now he's a coach. Because this is ridiculous. Yes,

(36:06):
come on in finish your high school season. I know
he said both his boys are gonna be playing next fall.
He wants to finish that. Come on in the league,
start as you know, like I said, some lower level
assistant or.

Speaker 3 (36:17):
Something, and work your way up. I ain't mad.

Speaker 5 (36:19):
I ain't even saying he got to go through ten
years of it. He can jump the line a little
bit and says, you played all right, but the idea
is just coming right down.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
Giving the keys of the franchise is crazy. Rob, can
I Rob? You can I speak now? You can? Yeah? Okay?
Can you go ahead? Because he yelled at I don't
even know what to do? Lift your shoulders up.

Speaker 4 (36:38):
You know, Philip Rivers is my guy.

Speaker 6 (36:39):
Rob.

Speaker 4 (36:40):
You know that no man lost a bet any Philip Rivers.
Then he tried to cut me off, and I'm trying
to give him some shot.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
That's what he is, That's what it was.

Speaker 10 (36:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (36:47):
I was pretty salty about it.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
I know you hurt my feeling. I mean, Rob, g
all these years we go back and you talk to
me like I'm a dog, and I.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
Just felt like I almost said wolf wolf after you
paraded me.

Speaker 3 (37:02):
Well, we are watching this dog agility contest. It's just
it's painful. He might have been living in that that area.
He might got a little too. All I've done my
life is give to other people.

Speaker 13 (37:12):
Oh boy, I just say, what do you need? Don't
turn to me, don't turn to me? Can I help
you at in any way? Do you want to walk
on my back with no shoes?

Speaker 5 (37:23):
Got in the time besage, just going on, Hey, yo, hey,
I've asked a homeless guy, do you want a piece
of cheesecake?

Speaker 1 (37:32):
He doesn't know that the piece dropped on the floor,
but I'm still going to offer it to him because
that's the only way he's going to get cheesecake.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
Is that right?

Speaker 3 (37:40):
That's the last thing he needed in life. Here lies
a man who would have lived. He had a piece
of cheese, and I said that those are just leaves.
I said they were sprinkles.
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