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May 13, 2025 38 mins

Former NFL offensive lineman and FOX Sports Radio Weekend host Ephraim Salaam is in for Rob, and he and Kelvin discuss the conspiracy theory that the NBA Draft Lottery has been rigged several times over the years and debate whether the Dallas Mavericks should trade Cooper Flagg for Antetokounmpo. Plus, Hidden Empire Film Group Deon Taylor swings by to discuss what he would do if he ran the Mavs, who he’s expecting to face off in the NBA Finals this season, why his film group is branching out into the world of sports in their latest venture (Hidden Empire Sports Collective) and much more! Finally, The Odd Couple Callers bring the heat in this week’s edition of Trash Talk.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Right, Fox Sports Radio. It is The Odd Couple. Kelvin Washington,
need from salam in for Rob Parker. Rob will be
back tomorrow, have a day off. Thank you for listening
to do a graduation. He ain't got no kids. He
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think seventy five percent of Fox Sports Radio is a
Rob mentee.

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At least at least alex perfets here because of Rob.
So that's one on the show. I see it.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
We got, I think, I weiss yep. Who else, Robbie Robby?
Were you one?

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Nah? Okay? He like getting mad is Patrick?

Speaker 4 (01:08):
No?

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I'm sure? So may we got about five six more
if I'm not mistaken. Nobody miss the ones that he
brings in and they don't work out and try to
himself after the fat. Hey, I won't go man, Yeah,
that's crazy.

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but uh yeah, I blocked him on Twitter but uh yeah, no, no, no,
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All right, so it is now when one point eight
percent chance of winning something Ephraim don't even matter nowadays sings.

(02:00):
So you're saying, as a chance, that's right, Dallas Mavericks
end up getting the number one pick, which at this
point we all know is gonna be Cooper Flag, which
is funny because he was there at the lottery draft.
It's it's draft lotterytions. And it's funny because like usually
every once in a while we'll get a him, we'll
get a Zion, we're gonna Lebron where you know they're
gonna be.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
The number one.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
Sometimes you get could be this could be that he
literally knows where he's going, Like okay. Usually most times
it's like I could be one, two, or three. You
don't know exactly who's gonna go one. Would it be Linzo,
would it be Tatum? Could it be this person? He
went up, I guess I'm a Maverick like right then
and there. But then people start saying the fix is in, right,

(02:40):
you lose Luca. Luca goes to the Lakers, helping the
Lakers because we know Lebron ain't got but what one
two more years left? So now the Lakers got their
star and thanks for making that happen. Conspiracy theories abound,
And now the Mavericks get the number one pick, which
will be Cooper Flag and so all the conspiracy theories
start to flow. And semi recently, Lebron had this to say.

(03:04):
Was it the Pat McAfee show. Yes, this is what
he said.

Speaker 5 (03:08):
Listen man, during the ball drop, you know, during the
lottery drop, Cleveland got the number one pick. That's I
just don't think that was.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Let's keep Lebron home.

Speaker 5 (03:29):
You know what, Patrick going to the Knicks, you know,
Darrin Rose to the bull.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
I mean, you ain't wrong when you're right sometimes, And
I'm gonna say this, Ephraim, I don't know. We have
Mark Stein on Last Hour, check that part out on
the pod. I'm not going to sit up here and
say that I know this is Rick. However, what I
am going to say to you listening and sometimes and
you played professionally and you did everything you could do

(03:58):
to win, you lost, and the whole nine. But sometimes
I think people forget it is entertainment. And I don't
mean the athlete. I think the athletes are absolutely all
in doing the best they can. But I think collectively
we forget it's entertainment. And part of entertainment is to
have the best entertainment, the best product out there, the best.

(04:20):
We want to see these matchups or we want to
see these things happen to create storylines. And I'm not
saying things are rigged and things are fake, but I'm
just saying, keep.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
In mind things are entertainment. It's all I'm gonna say.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
And sometimes we call sports and the reason why we
love it, Ephraim, is because it's the greatest reality show.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Right.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
We don't know tonight who's gonna win between Indiana and Cleveland.
Cleveland's up ten. You think, oh, they're gonna win. That's
not necessarily the case. But as you know in the
entertainment industry, sometimes even great realities you think it's real,
it's still hyper produced. Yes, and I'm just saying all
reality TV, all reality TV is producer.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
We love this sports, I know exactly.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
And we love sports because it's the great reality and
that we don't know it's their only real reality. But
I'm just saying, there are some weird things. Number one
pick goes to Chicago. Where's Deck Rose from Cleveland? It's
the number one pick. There's this kid, I don't know
if you know, from Akron right down the road forty
five minutes away, who could be the savior of the league.
And oh he just goes there. Oh, Zion Williamson just

(05:23):
happens to go the Pelicans. Anthony Davis leaves. The Pelicans
don't have any star power as the New Orleans were.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yeah, but that that's the one where you scratch your head,
like why they're though, like the league would have benefited
if it was rigged. It would have benefited having Zion
in New York.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
Because I can't have all of these franchises, but Naked
gotta have so I gotta have a reason.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
Dude, New Orleans has come to Utah, didn't win the draft.
They're butt naked up there.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
They chose to be right and they they just absolutely
said we are a flat out flopping for Flag or
whatever it was.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
So it there. I'm just lot of places that I
get it. I get what you're saying. Now, for me,
the better question is now that Dallas has one the

(06:18):
first pick in the draft, what do you do with it?
That's a great question. So I'll give you this and
then I'll ask you the question. I'll give you two options.
You draft Cooper Flag. Everybody knows he could possibly be
a generational talent in three to five years. He can

(06:38):
be an All NBA player, right. He has the skill
set without a doubt. He's young, eighteen years old, He's
a kid. Are with the current structure of your team?
You got rid of Luca for Anthony Davis because you're

(06:59):
in win now. You didn't think Aluca could win now,
and you also stated that defense wins championships, so you
wanted to get more, you know, more of a defensive
edge on your team. Anthony Davis brings that without a doubt,
would you trade that pick plus next year's first round

(07:24):
draft pick and another player Lively or the other big
that they have for Yannis? And now you partner Yannis
with Anthony Davis and a Kyrie Irvin. When he comes
back from Achilles, he should be ready sooner because this

(07:49):
happened during the season. So if you're a win now
type of situation, right, which they claim they are, they
in there. If you're a defense wins championships, right mm hmm.
Giannis is top three and all MVP races. He's thirty
years old. He has six or seven years of high

(08:13):
level basketball. What do you do?

Speaker 1 (08:18):
That's why you produce great shows. You know how to
do this stuff. You asked a great question. You know
what I'm gonna tell you. We'll do it next. It's
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(09:23):
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Speaker 2 (09:41):
We're cooking over there. Yep.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
We're gonna do some some good conversation with him in
just a bit. All right, you asked me a great
question for those who just tuned again asking again.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
Okay, so you're the Dallas Mavericks, You're Nico. You've been
drug over the coals, all right, death threats, the whole
nine yards. Literally you look up. It's a miracle. You
get the first pick in the draft. Everybody in the
world knows Cooper Flag is that guy best player in

(10:08):
college basketball last year, kid, eighteen years old? Eighteen that's
the great start you take him. Now, mind you, earlier
in the year, in February, when you weren't on the
top of everybody's Christmas list, you traded away a top
five NBA All NBA player who can potentially go down
as one of the greats. Yep, because you said you

(10:29):
want to focus on defense and when now and defense
wins championships. Okay, So, now, if you draft Cooper Flag,
does that fit that category or your second option is
you trade that pick one of the bigs that you

(10:51):
have and next year's first round draft pick for Giannis Antetokoumpo.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
Okay, it's a great question, and I think a lot
of people are pondering that the Mavericks have come out.
But again, this is today. You can't listen they come.
I completely agree. It sounds good. Now we are well
away from draft and plenty of calls will happen. Things
will happen. They say they're gonna ride with Cooper flag
but you never know. So here's the reason. My answer
is this, and I had to think about this. We
started to talk about it in live time as this

(11:19):
stuff was all breaking yesterday. Robin, I, I'm riding with Cooper.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
Here's why. Okay.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
Number one, he's eighteen years old. Yes, he was killing
fools in college at seventeen this year, this past year.
That's number one. Number two, he's not a guy who
averaged ten. But I see the potential he was giving
out the business now like you saw it in real time.
This ain't a well I think he's gonna project to be. No,
this was I'm killing y'all right now and I'm seventeen.

(11:47):
Just turn eighteen.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
Now.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
Number two, a healthy Kyrie when he comes back, and
hoping a healthy Ad. Now you and I hadn't really
done the show together. When was my issue with the trade?
If you're trading Luca for SGA cool for an Edward's
cool for Paolo Ben Carrol because you're saying he's gonna
be a future cool for a guy, your injury prone
ad who's also six years older, to pair with the

(12:12):
often injury guy Kyrie. That was my issue. But if
it were to work out, they're both healthy. I don't
need him to be the savior right now. So for
the next two to three years, I just need you
to be the best three. Be my Aaron Gordon when
they won, if you will, you know, be my Kyle Kuzma,
if you will when the Lakers won, you know, so

(12:33):
on and so forth. Be my Derek White, grab rebounds,
lock up, you know, give me some buckets. But you
don't have to be the same. Because I have Kyrie,
I have a d and you can learn and then
you can become my Kawhi Leonard, Tim Duncan is time
to go away, Tony Parking and finally got old. Manu
definitely got over because he was shot in the finals.
And now I have this emergence of oh shoot, Kawhi
is the final MVP.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
Look at Kawhi Leonard.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
Yes, and now I'm set for the next foreseeable four, five, six,
ten years with Cooper Flag.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
That would be what I would rather do. And also secretly,
don't tell anybody aprom.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
I buy myself time that if I don't win for
a while, I can say, dude, he's only nineteen, he's
only twenty, he's only twenty one.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
We're on our way.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
We're on our way as opposed to the pressure if
I go, get you honest, we have to win now.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
Okay, there's what I'm doing. Okay, So can I push
back a little bit? Yes, you may, Okay, because you're
under the assumption that Nico has that much time. I
am because he made the trade that he made. Whatever
timetable he was on has been considerably shortened new ownership group. Right.

(13:46):
Let me tell you this, Cooper Flag is three to
four years out of being that guy. Agreed Paulo Benchero.
Was he a grown man at Duke? His one year grown?
I can't even believe they were debating about him being wrong.
So let me tell you this. You take Cooper Flags

(14:11):
freshman year at Duke, and you take Polo ben Ceros
freshman year at Duke Polow's six', ten can handle, it
can do, everything strong, defense the whole nine. Yards he
gets drafted To. Orlando we don't hear from him from
three years, right two years, Ago victor Woman, yama there

(14:32):
has never been anyone like, him never been anyone like.
Him he's an. Alien that's the whole marketing. Campaign he's
going into his third. Year they haven't made the playoffs,
yet all, Right Kate cunningham remember when he was coming. Out,
yeah of COURSE i. Do. Believable couldn't any, shot can't

(14:57):
stay in front of, him play defense the whole nine.
Yards we haven't. Heard he's been in league four. Years
we haven't heard from Ky cunningham until this. Year What
i'm saying is as good as these young players are.
NOW i granted they're being partnered with our team up
With Anthony. Davis that that's the key party from And.

(15:21):
Kyrie kyrie are, healthy both of both of those two.
Players you put THE h word in front of. THEM
a Healthy Anthony, davis a Healthy. Kyrie now if one
or both of them are, unhealthy then the fate of your,
Job nico and the franchise lies in the hands of

(15:44):
an eighteen year.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
Old.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
True, now if you do make the trade and go
get A, yiannis you have a right NOW mvp candidate
who can give you, thirty twelve and eight every, now
every single. Night and, oh by the, way he really
doesn't get. Hurt he's built like a truck and he's

(16:07):
going to affect the game on both ends of the
court right, Now so When kyrie comes, back that's a
plug and Play Anthony davis now can play off of.
Him you want to talk about all the rebounds and
all the rem, protection right, Yeah so now that's a.
Win right. Now we have a. Shot even If kyrie

(16:32):
doesn't come back healthy this, year even If ad misses some,
time we have an opportunity to go to the playoffs
and play right. Now that's how you prolong your. Career
if you're A, nico you don't say, HEY i Drafted,
yes the NEXT gm will be thanking you for drafting

(16:53):
the kid who's going to maybe turn out to be
that guy in three. YEARS i just gave you a
list of dynamic first round draft picks who are plug
and play guys right this, second and they have yet
to get to the level that The Dallas mavericks need
a player to be right now to appease the flan,

(17:15):
base appease the new, owners and Save niko's.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
Job here's Thet you brought up great, points but here
here's now my pushback to some of your poor push.
It some of the Got Polo broncarro goes to The
orlando they don't have.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
Anything.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
Nope Now Franz, wagner they got a nice they should
feel happy about where they're, going and they got pieces
that they want to make some. Calls If i'm, paying
MAYBE i package Up franz And Cole, Anthony WHO'S i
think gonna be really?

Speaker 2 (17:38):
Good his Brother mode they both. On you can get.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
Both we can get Both waggas And anthony and and
and a pick and NOW i can go get It
giannis and put him with Bon carro or whoever go
GET kd whatever they may.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
Be it's not going, there but go.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
Ahead but you know they have great assets to pair
up and and and get some. Trads my point, though
is some of the guys you mentioned went the teams
Were i'm In i'm nineteen twenty AND i saw ALL i.
Got he gets to Walk we're into a champion With
kyrie and a champion with A d and a franchise
with some other pieces around.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
It so that would be my.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
Difference he's not going to The hornets and you're, like,
Hey la met Le, bas save the franchise who you
don't have any idea how to play in the league quite,
yet you know WHAT i. Mean so it's a little
different to me where he gets to walk in and.
Grow he gets to walk in and, like oh, SHOOT
i got vets, AROUND i got a system, around AND
i can. Grow that's the. Difference i'm not asking him
to be the savior right off the, bat And i'm

(18:32):
okay with. That and if you bring In, gionnis which,
again but why aren't.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
That, though why or why do you need? That?

Speaker 1 (18:40):
NO a doun't you? DO i Need kyrie to be.
Healthy and ad tow did was.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
You gave away An ALL nba player who had just
taken you to The Western conference, finals to the. Finals
that's What i'm, saying yeah to the excuse, me to
the actual, final to the. Finals. Yep so you you're
under this assumption that this youth buys you. Time, no, no,
no you told the people you're in a win now,

(19:06):
mode not a win in two three. Years And i'm
happy with a healthy ad Healthy kyrie other piece h
in front of. Me that's what agree is coming. Off
don't talk to. Me nico is the one who said
we want to get healthier and. Young you're fighting you're fighting. Me,
no and also thirty year Old Yannis compo tell you.

(19:29):
This six years, AGO i talked to one of MY
gm friends AND i, said who would out of anybody
in the, league who would you start the league with
if you had the first. Picking this is lebron. Kd
everybody's still in the, League. Steph this was Before jannis Was.
Jannis he Said janie To, cumpo AND i was like
the kid From. Milwaukee he was, like, Brother there's nothing

(19:52):
like him on the Planet. Earth there's nothing like. Him
he's a. Kid he doesn't even know what he can do.
Yet and and now we see what that. Is he
took A milwaukee team by himself to AN nba. Championship
you don't want that thirty year old guy on your team.
Today don't say don't want If we're not gonna do.
That you just had that say don't know you want

(20:13):
if he's. Bad you push me. Bad i'm gonna roll
with my. Option take take to eighteen year old.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
Taking we're gonna argue this while we Got Chris perfect
getting ready to give us what's. Trending Also Deon taylor
getting ready to join us as, well and just a
bit talk some some, entertainment answer hoops with.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
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Speaker 2 (20:38):
Live all, right appreciate, You, chris thank you so.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
Much All, right it is the couple Covin WASHINGTON e
For solon and For rob on this trash Talking. Tuesday
we got about fifteen minutes or so before we get
to hear what you guys want to. Trash, uh you
can trash. Anybody we're not gonna interrupt. You you can do
your thing for about thirty forty. Seconds we'll have that coming.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
Up in a, bit but right.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
Now Dion, taylor founder AND ceo Of Hitting Empire Fi,
group Is aphral's. Man it got a lot going on
in the entertainment, world and also wants to chop it
up on some sports as, Well, dion what's, up?

Speaker 4 (21:07):
Bro how you?

Speaker 6 (21:08):
Doing?

Speaker 4 (21:09):
Man?

Speaker 2 (21:09):
Hey what's? Up Gold? Body how you doing?

Speaker 4 (21:12):
Hey Hamburger? Body how you doing?

Speaker 2 (21:14):
Good is this what y'all be doing around here just
since we were? Kids?

Speaker 1 (21:19):
Well D i, man it's good to have you on, Man,
Epral i'm gonna let you kind of lead as far
as just tell us a little bit more about before
we get.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
Into, that let me ask you, this d would, you
if You're, dallas would you use the pick to Take Cooper?
Flag or would you trade that pick and some other
pieces to get A giannis if you're A? Nico are you?
Crazy i'm just asking a.

Speaker 4 (21:42):
Question Cooper, Flag. MABE i mean you you, Know cooper
plag you you, go you go, fresh, young, untapped no.
Injuries you know you're you're starting to now you're looking
to reboot or restart your, franchise, right so, yeah you
gotta go with this. Kid. Man he's an, anomaly he's,

(22:03):
special AND i mean it sounds good to Get. Janni's
BUT i, mean if you're if you're you want that, excitement,
MAN i think you go With.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
Cooper, yeah but what if you want to win? Now
because you got about three years Before cooper can do,
anything And nico may not last that. Long jess f Y, Gm.

Speaker 4 (22:21):
I'm not sure about, that, MAN i, mean it looks
like it looks Like Cooper flag is in the position
to be one of Those brookies that could actually impact
the league.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
Right when he comes in Like victor Woman, yama because
they haven't he hasn't been to the.

Speaker 7 (22:39):
Playoffs let me do, that like Like paolo Ben terer holds,
stopped didn't, stop Like Kay, cunningham like with The Dion,
Brandon Brandon, Miller Ola Candy.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
Dion see what he's doing is.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
He's naming all these guys who went to teams with
nobody else on.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
There this is a different.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
Situation he's have A if he's Got kyrie and A
healthy And gaffer and And lively and all these, guys
well then they can.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
Compete.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
Man wemby was over there with with with Who tim
walking through that?

Speaker 2 (23:09):
Door he Got Chris paul and and De Aaron. Fox now,
yeah and he's. Out well there you. Go, Well, dione
you created the correct. ANSWER i was with. You i'm Keeping. Flag,
YEAH i think you.

Speaker 4 (23:21):
Go WITH i THINK i, THINK i, mean you're you
can't go wrong with either. ONE i Think Cooper flagg
what he is showing you is he might be a generational.
Talent you cannot cannot under.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
That, okay look let Me i'm gonna ask him. This
to get in to the business. Part of, course you're
the founder and and UH ceo Of hit An Empire Film.
Group but this year you did something a little. Different.
Uh you tapped into your background as a former professional
basketball player and all of the professional athletes you're, around

(23:56):
and you created, another uh another part of The Hidden empire,
family which is The Hitting Empire Sports. Collective tell us
about that and what you guys are trying to. Accomplish.

Speaker 4 (24:09):
Yeah since the beginning of me being a, filmmaker, director,
WRITER i have always focused on just being around. Athletes
from originally having athletes get involved and help me make
the first Movie i've ever, made to you being the
first person to ever tap in and partner with me

(24:29):
on a. Film we've always had this allegiance to, athletes
The Bobby jackson's of the world and so many more
that just kind of jumped in and was, Like, YO
i want to be a part of. This so when
time came for us to look at the sports, SIDE
i was sitting there with a documentary Around Floyd. MAYWEATHER

(24:51):
i was working on a documentary With Peewee, kirkland and
there were several interests around THE nfl to do stuff with,
us AND i, said, man this is like the perfect
lane for us to create a new brand that not
only focuses on, sports but also allows the athlete to
understand how to actually navigate the business Of. Hollywood so

(25:13):
instead of you selling your, rights instead of you going
Into netflix and asking someone for permission to do something
around your, life we, said, no let's explain to people
how to do this, independently how an athlete could actually
grow their own independent side of you, know their, life their,
market their brand that they're trying to. Create and we

(25:35):
became the, FIRST i, believe in the marketplace that is
doing that. Business now we have around fourteen, documentaries around
nine things that are in, development three things that are
actually getting ready to be released later this. Year and you,
know we've wined our, group our net with THE. Nfl
we've been doing some amazing work with them And Tracy
peerlman over, there who's absolutely and just amazing in every.

(25:58):
Way AND i think the business has the ability to
grow into the biggest SPORTS ip brand in the.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
Country, WELL i, mean you're doing a whole lot and
you tapped into SOMETHING i think is something we've noticed
maybe the last ten fifteen, years where you have a
lot of athletes who want to be, involved they want
to have, partnerships they want, equity they want to tell their.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
Stories and social media has allowed.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
This and we have the Podcast boom Where god, said
NOW i want to TELL i want to be able
to talk about. Things what do you make of that
kind of this resurgence or this surge of athletes wanting
to tell their story and own their own things and
really just kind of be a part of the. MEDIA i,
Mean draymond is, pooping doing podcasts and DOING tv while he's.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
Hooping, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (26:43):
Draymon draymon is absolutely amazing in that. Way AND i
Think draymond is sport facing to be the poster child
to what this business is going to look, like as
well As Matt, barnes you, know with all this smoke
and him And jilani And jack like this is this

(27:04):
is the, future and it's bigger than just the athlete,
now it's it is the future of independent business as a.
Whole people are tired of asking for permission from people
that don't even understand the, creative people that don't understand the.
Culture so the biggest thing that has transpired now for
sports is we're now talking about global. Right this is

(27:27):
now an athlete that comes From chicago that plays on
a certain team now in the you, know in THE
nba AND. Nfl his brand now works globally around the.
World so it is his job to take care of that,
brand nurture that, brand and make that brand and that
vertical becomes something extremely. Special so the idea here is

(27:49):
not very many of us have had the information or
the knowledge to explain how to actually do the. Work
if you ask ninety nine percent of people out, here, filmmakers, writers, directors, athletes,
hey do you know how to make your own? Film
make your own? Documentary do you know what the first
steps would be for you to do? That it doesn't
matter that you have four hundred million dollars or one

(28:10):
hundred million. Dollars do you know that you could do
that for a fraction of the, costs get the wheel,
turning create your own, world and then actually license these
things or get it to a position where you could
sell it for a certain amount of time and get it.
Back they would all say. No so that's WHY i
feel like we're. Different and also speaking the, language there's
there's only so far an agent can go with. Us

(28:32):
coming from the cultures and the places that we come.
From it takes a lot of energy to understand how
to communicate with someone that's, said, man how DO i
do it? Myself agents don't know how to do, That
so you got to go find people that have actually done,
it built, it been successful at, it fell in their,
face got back up so they could tell you the real.
Information that's what we feel like we.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
Represent, yeah and you, know kudos to what you're doing
over there in that. Staff you must have one heck
of a guy over there helping you run the. SPORTSIDE i,
mean this guy must be on the forefront of all
of these. Things, yeah you talking About, Tamir, no that's
what you want to?

Speaker 4 (29:09):
Do oh, no, no, No, Epram the transition is, real.
Man what you're talking. About what's great is you're you're
a commodity. Man the fact that you went to THE,
nfl had an amazing, career but then taught yourself how
to write and then to become a writer on multiple

(29:29):
SUCCESSFUL tv. Shows now look at, you writer on Bel,
air on the, PODCAST a couple working on a couple of.
Movies this is what it is for, us and this
is the only way that we're gonna be able to
create something that we. Own, Otherwise, man we're doing the
same things that every athlete and did for their whole.

(29:50):
Career make a bunch of, money got cool, cards got
a couple of, houses try to get into real. Estate
but at the same, time we don't own. Nothing so
now it's, like how do we how do we break the?
Curse how do we break the Chang how do we
create a world where we get own some of those
shows and own some of these movies and sit on
the front of bench With Jack nicholson to watch The

(30:11):
lakers and never have to work.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
Again, yeah they call it mailbox. Money we all trying
to get a little bit of. That you open the,
Chain oh there goes something you know that hate. Me
the other day THAT i got to be in the
Show loop, yea AND i was playing a news, anchor
which is WHAT i, Do. Dianna i'm a news anchor
earlier my portion of my day and it's a Random
check just came into MAIL i think because they used
a snippet from the last episode THAT i was. ON

(30:33):
i was, like oh, okay little mailbox money AND i
met at that real Quick dion before we. Go we
Got cleveland up eight Against indiana in this series Where
indiana's up three to. One we, got of course The,
warriors we got The knicks and the selfs going at.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
It who do you like right?

Speaker 1 (30:47):
Now who if you if you kind of could close
your eyes and think of THE Nba, finals what are you?

Speaker 4 (30:50):
Thinking, WELL i, Mean cleveland shouldn't even. Came they should
have just they should you, know you playing in the
in the gym and the other team don't show, Up you're,
like damn made it? Come like they should have did.
That the the rest of, it, MAN i really feel
like this is the next. Year i'm interested to Watch
Golden state BECAUSE i don't know what that was last,

(31:13):
night BUT i feel like there is a there's an
energy in that in that series where something magical could,
happen where that team could actually come back and beat.
THEM i just believe it because but IF i had
the guess right now who would be in the, FINALS
i would have to, say it would be really dope
to See, edwards you, know and brushing like that would

(31:37):
be doubt.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
Dope that's a good.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
Finals, YEAH i think that THE nba would like, that
and they finally, say Thank, God New york is. Back,
geez only the biggest markets In. America all, right, Man,
DI i will wish you are the best. Man follow
them hoops to film and also the REAL i h
e fg there on At twitter And instagram and all
that good, Stuff.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
DEDAN i appreciate, you, man appreciate, you, man thank.

Speaker 4 (31:58):
You and, yeah thank you and none of those on
my social. Media but it's.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
Okay it's At Dion. Taylor hold, on what AM? I
what AM i looking at it and Hitting Empire Film
group On. Instagram hey, Man, yeah they don't, know they don't.
KNOW i got. You i'm looking at The taylor right.
NOW i Got williams tags D. Taylor but it's just his.
Name you got some other ones out. There maybe it's you,
know it's just forgot to. Clothe he does have a.
Clone he got a couple of clone accounts to be popping.

Speaker 4 (32:23):
Up listen, here burrito, BODY.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
I appreciate. That all.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
Right we got player of the day coming up and
also Trash Talking. TUESDAY i told you Trash Talking tuesday eight,
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(32:51):
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Speaker 3 (32:53):
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Speaker 1 (33:28):
Out we got my man e from Salam in on
a Trash Talking tuesday and got a tissue for. Me
no tissue right, Now, Rob you just enjoy your day, off,
brother all right the time now for the tire rec
play of the day and the play of the day
is we are working on that play.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
Today somebody make a. Play this isn't it?

Speaker 1 (33:46):
Lazy somebody make a play right? Now what you need
me to Call Tyrese haliburton right, now make a. Play
matter of, fact you know, what you're my first trash
Talking tuesday going to, You. Russ we're going to trash
Talking tuesday right?

Speaker 2 (33:58):
Now hear me With. Alex don't you talk about. Me it's.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
Trash Talking tuesday's Tea.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
DREDGE i don't know whether to.

Speaker 3 (34:10):
Smile lets you kick a field goal.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
Man all, right there we having aside for trash Talking.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
Tuesday e Frol let's see who we got eight seven
seven ninety nine On foxes your trance to trash anybody?
Anything we will shut. Up give you your thirty forty
seconds so you can vent and get it off your.
Chest were almost like. Therapists we just woo so let
him get it.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
Off all. Right let's go To rob In.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
Alaska rob In, alaska you're on with the eye couple
Of Fox Sports.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
Radio who you? Trash And?

Speaker 3 (34:35):
Rob i'm a.

Speaker 4 (34:36):
Woman The blazers got trash For.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
Blazers they've been mediocre since ninety ninety.

Speaker 3 (34:41):
Two where are they gonna get their acts?

Speaker 4 (34:43):
Together?

Speaker 2 (34:45):
EH i mean they were. Great then you got The
Clyde drexer.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
Era they were really good in their late nineties early two,
thousand but they could never get over that. Hump, no
some people in the. Way they had some, People oh,
yeah shack. People we might be some people, Probably, Yeah
and then after that they fell off and they were
fun for a little. Bit had one of the greatest
had ifs If Brandon roy doesn't get.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
Into, that that was that was a big. One but
you also got to remember they Drafted Greg odin that
never panned out as. Well so those two will set
your franchise. Bag but then you gotta, look they Had
Damian lillard and they HAD. Cj, McCullough and they just
couldn't get another piece. Too that's two small. Guards they
just couldn't get that third piece to really take them

(35:28):
to the next level in a Crowded. West all, right
there you Having mike What?

Speaker 1 (35:33):
Wisconsin, mike you're over The akobo trash Talking? Tuesday who you, Trashing?

Speaker 4 (35:38):
Mike i'm crashing The Milwaukee. Brewers why didn't score? Running?

Speaker 2 (35:48):
YEAH i mean you figured, Somebody.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
Mike you, know this is where where baseball sometimes gets
like whatever happened to manufacturing? Runs you, know all, right
we're gonna the abund. Here we're gonna have that guy
still and everything doesn't have to be a home. Run
that's true as always a home runner Bus that's how
it is. Sometimes AND i sit next to WHEN i
do Uh dodgers pre And, Pros i'll sit next To
nomar And Jerry Harrison junior and these guys And Dontrell

(36:14):
whoever's And Adrian zalas And they'll be just, like, man
what part of hitting went away in? Baseball that's kind
of like the thing you do in baseball eight, seven
seven ninety nine On Fox Trash Talking. Tuesday let's keep
it Going, Shan sean And sacramento couple who you trash And?

Speaker 6 (36:32):
Sean first of, all yo Cousin kelby and the world's
greatest panther From Florien.

Speaker 4 (36:40):
Height what up That fremento?

Speaker 6 (36:42):
Man he's From Salama.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
Salam.

Speaker 4 (36:46):
Brother you already know what talming is out here in
these streets Of South.

Speaker 6 (36:49):
Sax but real, quick, man you, Know i'm gonna give
a little Where Rob parker was right and Where Rob
parker was dead a.

Speaker 4 (36:55):
Wrong he was right The Luca trait.

Speaker 6 (36:58):
Was not about.

Speaker 4 (36:59):
Basketball it was a rig.

Speaker 6 (37:00):
Job, hey go ahead and float ustad superstar out here
In La. Nico we got you with our first, Pick Adam.
Silver it's in the bag where he was. Wrong we
gotta trash this old. Man remember last week during the hot,
scene he was over here talking about how Great jordan's
are most comfortable shoe in the, world showing you ain't
gone to see hundred and. Fifties and he come on

(37:21):
the radio station yesterday and calls the black And red
Bread Jordan elevens w.

Speaker 4 (37:26):
Breed.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
Wow, yeah he was just.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
Excited he went through all That, hi having my man
talk smack on the on the on the. Video he
just wanted to sell his. Shoe he was just trying To,
yeah the. Breeds he was just trying to just do a.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
Job that's what having one old people old fogies Like
rob is ptively, young but in terms of the you
know the, now he's, older, right so he's looking at
things a little. Bit rob is old and young at
the same at that both at the same you watch the.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
Time he's. Young he eats like an eleven year. Old
but if you you, know but then he has old.
Ways When alex is going to seven these nineteen sixties
SEVENTIES tv things On, Thursdays, alex WHERE i haven't heard
anything from nine any show you, Produce we're never going
to hear the things on the because it's a. Nowadays
nothing from nineteen ninety two and. Up everything is. Old

(38:24):
and then the, flabbergasts they're not being rochey. SONGS i
never heard of, It ROB.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
G you don't know this from nineteen sixty.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
Seven, no we don't know, This, Rob Rob Parkers Archie
and in the, buckets it's like the buckets What? Yeah
and so he's the oldest young person you will ever
meet in your entire. Life all, RIGHT a man face
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