June 5, 2025 • 38 mins
Rob and Kelvin make their official NBA Finals picks, and the Odd Couple Crew debate stadium concessions do’s and don’t’s in this week’s edition of Shop Talk. Plus, ‘The Shek Show’ host Dave Dameshek swings by to discuss his expectations for Aaron Rodgers in Pittsburgh, why the Steelers felt compelled to put all their eggs in the Rodgers basket, what’s on the line for Mike Tomlin going forward, and much more!
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us in about twenty eight minutes. And Rob G, you
were saying Ian O'Connor was wrong, He was not wrong.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
He said that he didn't want to go to mandatory camp.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
No here the story here on Pro Football Talk, well
no USA today that he would buy the start of
mandatory mini camp in early June. That's exactly what it's
said in the story. I remember us talking about it.
Did you remember that? Okay, that's all I'm just saying,
Like Rob G, I'm not trying to call you out.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
No, no, no, I want you to call him out. I
want the same energy. Stop the show, start it over, Alex.
We're starting for the time.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
It's a so much Thursday. That's what it is. No, no, no,
rob Just because robb G.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
One guy, one guy is happily married, one guy gets
called where three beautiful, that's what I want.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
I don't want to know.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Well, I've been knowing rob G for seven eight years,
and no give him that smoke. My ears were still
ringing for the other day. You're yelling at me so much,
rob G. Get the smoke.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
When you went home, your wife said, I turned it off.
I can't. I said, hey, babe, you listen to the show.
I can't. I was yelling at each other. I can't
stand our boy.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
TP was talking about you today, Timothy Parker, what he
say he was in he was on the news show
today and he said.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Man, you're Rob going crazy, Rob saying crazy stuff. He'd
be everywhere. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, that's not about right, Okay, right, no,
don't try No. Back to the smoke for Rob g G.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
I just wanted you to get cause I was like,
when you said that, I was like, kind of, I
thought I heard it another way and I was questioning
myself seriously. So I looked it up because it was
bother me and I was like, I thought for sure,
he said in time for Miniekim.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Got mixed up with another reporter. Okay, It's fine.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
No, every since Rob's he's been acting different, different, ever
since you know what I'm talking about, since ever since
he about to bring Sexy back.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
He know what I'm talking about, Rob G. Have they
stuck you yet? We are on day two.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
That's why you're acting different different. It's just me left
Manti Alex. You be on and off.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
I already know, Manx. It depends on your hair.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Like today when you and your Steven Seagal back with
the hair slick back and everything, you be acting a
little different.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
And just you feel myself a little That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
So Rob come in fat shaming us on on social media?
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Did you not fat shame us or no?
Speaker 4 (03:40):
No?
Speaker 1 (03:40):
I was trying to help them.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
That's how you help somebody. ROI was talking about baby
and his baby to sleep. I'm over here doing homework
and we catching strays.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
On on on X.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
All I'm saying is I'm concerned about my I want
to work with you guys for the next five or
six years.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
I can't wait for the fall when he gets fat
and he's back and we can wait October.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
What do we say? Six whatever? That Monday is BA boy,
you back, come back? Yeah, I'm gonna be in Connecticut
on the fourth.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
On the fifth, I fly back for the challenge, and
on the sixth, right after the show, I don't want
to hear no excuse, I'm gonna go home my wife.
There none everybody got four months. That's four months from today.
What's today?
Speaker 1 (04:24):
The fifth? Yes? Fourth?
Speaker 3 (04:26):
No?
Speaker 1 (04:26):
What's the day? Fifth? Right?
Speaker 2 (04:28):
So four days from tomorrow or four months from tomorrow.
The sixth is when we're all going out to celebrate.
I can't wait for you came and I might even
make so much money to be paid too. I'm gonna
make so much fun of you at the super Bowl
this year.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Where are we at. We're in the Bay. When we're
in the Bay, well two hours from that night, we
in Oregon or something like that. But wherever we are, Quebec,
I'm gonna be making so much fun of you when
you're eating them free wings.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Yes, let's talk about it. We got it.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Kind of got a little preview with Mark Stein. We
do man, you and him wa again. And I'll say
this too. I'm known Mark for a long time and
he's fine. But you can't tell me that the ratings
don't matter. And he was saying that the only sport
that's maligned, how many times people bring.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Up baseball ratings?
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Come on beyond has been smacked. Okay, two years on
and all right, and now all the ratings are rock.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Last year was a big year, that's right, right, And
this year you saw all the numbers are off. Rob
g and I had it on the podcast.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
They're doing really well with the changes in the game
and people are watching and young people too. So ratings
are You could say, well, they got a big compact contract.
That's fine, But you can't tell me that if after
Game one. The overnight ratings are good that they're not
going to put them out there.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
They won't.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
They're gonna be tonight ratings, right, Adam Silver will call
a press thirty. They're gonna sit down. We're supposed to
be SGA. He goes the way, move out the way. Hey,
tell everybody the ratings were great on if you saw
those we got those numbers in right now, that's my bad, SGA.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Go ahead, no doubt about it, all right, you got
uh done?
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Okay? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (06:03):
And I just saw the picks on ESPN game everybody
on the path they all have the thunder and six
even Steven and and you know the records not that good, right,
all right?
Speaker 1 (06:16):
But I don't think Steve.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
The brother on TV, I don't even know what he's doing.
Who is that brother right there? That wasn't the baseball yet?
However he was Pops. Pops was looking a little distraught.
That's how I feel right now that you just told
me everybody just picked everybody?
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Now, no, I got the thunder a couple of reasons.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Number one, I think we've all just ignored greatness as
far as the season. And I'm not saying a great
team all time, but it's been in our face, including
the individual player s g A, and including the team.
I've said here now for weeks talking about their point differential,
how the historic rate, and now including the playoffs, they
have surpassed the Bulls with the the I'm sorry, the
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Warriors with the most wins by double digits, sixty one
wins this season including the postseason by double digits. That
means it's just blowing out everybody night in, night out.
We know what they've done defensively as well. They have
so many different ways to come at you. We can
come individually, man up. We have schemes where we can
put guys in the middle. Caruso can guard any position
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including Yolkis, which is crazy.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
And then they have a guy who is.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Doing other historic things on the offensive end, SGA scoring
thirty plus points on fifty percent shooting for a couple
of two three years now. And the only other guy
done that is Jordan, and so it's just remarkable what
he's done. He goes right into the playoffs, done the
same thing Eastern Conference Finals, I mean the MVP, Eastern
Conference Finals MVP, and now he's trying to be the
finals MVP and I just think they're gonna be too much.
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And it's kind of been a storm coming. Rob forty
wins a couple of years ago, fifty seven last year,
and disappointing exit in the playoffs last season, and now
this one. They get to the finals, they won sixty
eight games, and I just think they're sitting there like, duh,
this was ours from the beginning. Why did you think
we didn't have a chance to win this thing? So
I think SGA, you put thirty thirty five points on
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the board immediately. When he's gonna be playing and what's
gonna be interesting to see Tyres Halliburton. My only concern
for him is does he understand you? And I talked
about it. He needs to be aggressive at all times.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Now.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
This isn't a normal game midweek in the middle of
the season. This isn't a first round. This is the finals,
and his team is gonna need him every night to
be aggressive. It doesn't mean taking a bunch of shots.
It just means trying to create for himself for others
every single play. But I ultimately I just think the
thunder are too much. I have it in five wouldn't
be shocked if maybe it goes to six. But I
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think it's just thunder. I think they're too much and
it's just kind of been sitting there. We've all just
ignored it.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Here's something that Rob just came down. You got a
little breaking news, Rob.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
G Shoot, I know if it's breaking news, but this
conversation is breaking news.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Ok. S just announced their starters for tonight's game. One.
Isaiah Hartenstein has already been benched.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Still like you're all year, you've been doing this and
you're just talking about all the numbers. There's no reason
to change. You remember when what's his name, avery A
john Avery Johnson was coaching, do you remember and they lost?
They were eight seed against the one and he changed
his life.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
It was against the Warriors, we believe Warriors, Warriors against
the Dallas Mavericks, right, you remember that it was the
one seed against Yeah, he changes lineup to accommodate them,
and i'm a and Stan Van Gundy did the same thing.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
You remember.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
That was the big thing about Stan not being and
when the moment came that that's when they went to
the finals with skipped to Malou and then and then
Jamiir Nelson.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
That was a great was playing well, he was playing
well and there was no reason.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Remember that he should be Yeah, because Jamiir Nelson and
played like it was. And then they changed the lineup
to get Jamir in there, and I know he was
like their franchise guys. But now you can't change. And
I'm just gonna say this. You know, I know I'm
the underdog. Everybody I saw has picked the thunder and
I get it, and that's fine. I'm gonna give the
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Pacers a chance at winning this. And my reasoning is
simple two things. Okay, they have something going seriously in
all three series they were not supposed to win, and
they've come up with with unbelievable wins along the way
to do that, which is incredible. And sometimes teams have
(10:34):
something going. And I alluded to the two thousand and
four Pistons, which was the team that was, you know,
star studed and won all the games, compared to the
team that was a team like the Pistons to be
the last team really like team team Rob G?
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Is that fair, Kevin? You know the team.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
I'm not asking Rob G as an outsider, as somebody
who was a Laker fan, who didn't you expect to
win that championship.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
I expected it to be a sweet.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Seriously, like you looked at it and you went, the
Pistons are good. They had a nice season.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Kind of crazy, y'all really thought that. I'm not saying
they picked the Lakers. People, they were.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
One of the biggest favorites in the NBA Finals, but
I feel like we're people watching.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
You were there that Pistons team was having teams not
score seventy.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
But they didn't care because they looked at where the
Lakers were.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
And remember when the Lakers came into that finals in
two thousand and four, they had won three in a
row and then didn't win the year three, but then
they were back right back, so they had one looking
at three championships in four years, even.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Though it was three in a row. You know, it's
kind of weird to scutch.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Me right and people four in five years and people
fully expected.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
I told you the story before.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Ja Donde, who was the comments at the LA Times
at the time, and when the Pistons won Game one,
you know, we're just eating in the press room and
he's like, Okay, this is over now, They'll win the
next four and will be over, so all right, you know,
and then the Pistons lost game two, so there's like like, yeah,
this'll be over now now they got that one win.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Okay, so we're not even coming back the win the
next three games.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
And when to Detroit after the Fens is one game three,
well not a Lakers will winning next not.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
I was like, Jay, can you stop, like seriously?
Speaker 2 (12:14):
And all I'm gonna say is Pacers have something going
sometimes overwhelming and the first time where you don't know
if they get behind or lose a game, how that
can change. Here you are, you're already making a lineup
change where might feel different?
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Or why are we doing this? We've been so good?
Why change?
Speaker 4 (12:35):
You know what I'm trying to dissect, like like a
little smaller, little faster, But.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
But it's it's just a bad thing because what is it?
Why what are you doing here? This has worked? There's
no reason to tinker with something that has been rolling
all year long. And they and it was a blink.
And we've seen some teams do that, and I don't
think it's good. It's in their best interest. Just go
with what you want. You can still start them and
if you just want to get somebody extra minutes, but
(13:01):
don't all of a sudden, because then you're gonna have
people's second guess you you're setting up the second guest.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
But I think to their credit, the way this is
Rob's both of y'all. This is why the Thunder can
do this is because all year they have been united
almost to funt, meaning they take away from the star
moments because jay Len Williams at a great guy, and
everybody's there. Sga, you had another forty, but everybody's there,
(13:27):
and they're so united that I agree. If this were
the Knicks and you said, carlthy Towns isn't starting and
we're gonna throw in Mitchell Robinson, we're gonna throw in
you know, another guard or something right or something or Sammitt,
then I can see you losing him. This Thunder team
is built so much like a college just fratause they're
all friends and all of that. I don't see this
(13:47):
bothering him. I think he probably would go this actually
makes sense.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Coach.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
I'm still gonna get some minutes. I'm cool with that.
Let's just win a championship.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
So I'm gonna say Pacers in six in six, yep,
well you got Thunder and five. Because the only way
they're gonna win it. I don't believe the pacer is
gonna win it seven. I think they have to do
what they did against the Knicks, uh like, do something shocking. Well, like,
obviously they got to win tonight's game. And in the
(14:15):
format I know it's two to two and then one
one one, right.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Yeahah, they got Pistons the reason they got rid of
at three.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
So to me, if they're going to do that, they
would have Game six at home, you know what I mean,
and not Game seven.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
All right, you gotta quit hate, man. It's okay.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
The Lakers have thirty five championships, twenty eight whatever a million,
It's okay.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
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six sixty three sixty nine. Who are you picking in
these NBA finals? Pacers on the thunder and why? How
many games you want to hear from you? Here's your chance.
We'll continue that conversation next with you. It is the
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have the Thunder and five looking forward to this thing
starting off here in a matter of minutes eight seven,
seven ninety nine on Fox.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
We got Jerry in Seattle. You're on the couple of
Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Jerry?
Speaker 7 (16:25):
How much guys?
Speaker 1 (16:26):
How y'all doing doing great?
Speaker 7 (16:27):
How you I'm good man? Sunny day out here. So Rob,
I gotta agree.
Speaker 8 (16:33):
With you on the Pacers.
Speaker 7 (16:34):
Man, I'm as one of these kind of old school
dudes who's been hating on the NBA lately.
Speaker 8 (16:39):
I'm really digging.
Speaker 7 (16:41):
These playoffs, you know, Like fact the refs are letting.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Them play right, That's true, That is definitely true.
Speaker 7 (16:48):
And even though the Pacers are kind of like this
new age team, you know, or the new modern team
with the long guys and they all hit the threes, man,
they've got the grit that, like, I think some of
us older school dudes really can appreciate. And I think
Carlisle is, like, you know, I think he gives them
a little bit of an edge and uh yeah, we'll see.
I just think that Oklahoma goes gets down a little bit.
(17:10):
I don't know if they know how to respond to it.
So yeah, I'm excited about the Pacers now, all.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Right, Jerry?
Speaker 4 (17:16):
Yeah, good boy, Jerry. The Rick Carlile part, I don't
think it's been understated. Rick Carlisle is really really good coach.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
I'll give you. I'll give you that. Jerry.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
A Town in Michigan, you're on the couple of Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
What's up? A Town and Arbor?
Speaker 8 (17:30):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (17:30):
How you doing doing great? How you good?
Speaker 5 (17:34):
Good?
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Good?
Speaker 9 (17:34):
Hey man?
Speaker 8 (17:35):
I got the Pacers and six?
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Also, wow, why pacers in six? I'm confused they.
Speaker 8 (17:43):
Got and they got Carlisle.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Okay, it's hard to argue with either one.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
Tell you someone coming to my twenty twenty five that
somebody will say a team gonna win because they got Sam.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
I ain't see that.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
He's want a championship. I like, I told my boy
that was why I thought the Paceer would be the Nicks.
But I didn't thin We're gonna making finals because of
this is crazy?
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Who we got? Brian in Michigan. You're on the couple
of Fox Sports Radio. What's happening?
Speaker 10 (18:08):
To it going on, fellas, how you doing?
Speaker 1 (18:11):
What's up buddy?
Speaker 10 (18:12):
Hey, So it's simple for me. I got the Pacers
in seven Wow, for a couple of reasons. Number one
experiences they've been there. Carlisle knows it. He's already out
coaching Oklahoma City's coach because they changed the lineup, right.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
That's a mistake. Why guys, as early, we don't know
if it's gonna play out. Rob g thumbs down on
the lineup change.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Right, No lineup change has been working all year, Brian,
Why are you changing the lineup?
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Case on.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
Wallace's first career playoff start will be in game one
of the INBA.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Yes, why why? Kelvin that's great coaching. Okay, that's great coach.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
And if they lose game one, oh my god, Like seriously,
they're great coaching.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
He's saying, y'all like to be fast up and down
running Hartenstein. Come here, baby, have a seat. This interesting
the anti coach pockets.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
This ain't exactly.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
He ain't gonna just stand there and be like, uh,
figure it out on three.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Watch two three, figure it out?
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Hey, you know what he should be like rolling the
balls out like the gym teacher, like all right, when
you have to have basketball, just roll the ball something,
go ahead, just quickly.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
What if this backfires and they lose game one? Okay,
y'all gotta say asking no, But I'm saying hard down
is a quality. I'm not saying that he's not. But
the the idea of changing what got you here, right,
that'll be That'll be the conversation is all. That's all
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Does he get if if if they get it, if
they lose, he gets too? You mean this? I think
it would be more of the series the game.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
No, no, no, But people will say why you know, Like
that'll be the topic of could you just set up
a narrative if you lose and say you lose game one, right,
and then maybe you go back to your lineup or
something and you lose.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
They'll be like, honestly, guys, if you think if you
said it was for another big who that's weird. It
makes sense what he's doing. The Pacers run the ball,
they're a fast team. They love to score it less three.
You should let them adjust to you, not the other
way around. You shouldn't have to adjust to the Pacers, all.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Right, y'all? Putting a little too much starking Hartenstein.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
All right, now, settle down, everybody, Drew Hartenstein, Yeah, uh, well,
Drew in New Jersey.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
You're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Drew?
Speaker 9 (20:14):
Hey, guys, I definitely have okay see in six. But
I'm definitely impressed with the Rick Carlisle. I think he's
the best coach in the league. And I think it's
kind of interesting that look at the two players that
were in the conference finals, the coach and player, right,
both of the guys were part of the NAS organization.
Those were one of the first moves that Niko Harris
(20:34):
did when he came on. He got rid of Rick Carlisle.
You ranck Rick Carlile out of Dallas. He got rid
of he chose not to re sign Jalen Brunson.
Speaker 5 (20:44):
Right.
Speaker 9 (20:45):
Also, I think that Paul George is like the Kevin Dakin.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
There, here's the sixth degrees of separation for sure.
Speaker 9 (20:53):
Yep, especially with this series. Does he get a ring
for this?
Speaker 1 (20:57):
No, I know he deserves one of at least a necklace.
How about a necklace? They they'll present it to him
on his podcast.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
All right, on the way, Dave Demishek and we got
Manzi Blognias right now, who do you you have?
Speaker 1 (21:09):
You got the You've had that from me.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
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with Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm Eastern,
four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
App Mancia Music with You. But yeah, Malmo, Yeah, we'll
see Almas. All right. It is The Odd.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
Couple, Rob Parker, Kelvin Washington on a TV Things song Thursday.
He's got the NBA Finals kicking off here in just
a little bit. But your big news also was Aaron
Rodgers uh looking to be signing with the Steelers coming
up here at some point. Dave Damashek, host of The
ch Show on YouTube, joins us now to talk a
little bit about that.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Dave, what's happening? How are you hey?
Speaker 8 (21:52):
Fellas? What's happening?
Speaker 10 (21:54):
Kelvin and Rob?
Speaker 8 (21:55):
Good to yapp with you once again. And my reaction
is that apparent. I tried to keep saying that Tomlin
and the Omar Kahan and the Steelers at large, you
guys gotta go and see Sinners. They didn't listen to me.
They missed the message. The central message of that movie
is you don't invite the vampire into your building on purpose.
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He's gonna suck the soul out of you, just like
he tried to do with the Packers, just like he
did do with the Jets. This is the guy you're
bringing in. He's not even good anymore. He's a forty
two year old man at this point. What is the
upside of all this? I don't see it, Dave.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
He had the same numbers as Patrick Mahomes last year,
same exact numbers. I'm just telling you. They didn't have
the win totals. And I get it he's not a
likable guy. But Dave, I think you're over dramatic. I
really do. I think Aaron Rodgers is still a good quot.
He had twenty eight touchdowns. Guess what Patrick Mahomes had
twenty six. Aaron Rodgers had eleven interceptions. Patrick Mahomes had
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eleven interceptions. I mean, so Patrick, So Patrick Mahomes can't
play either.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 8 (22:58):
No, listen, here, here's what I'm just asking you.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
The numbers are the numbers.
Speaker 8 (23:04):
I mean a raw touchdown number, and I am certainly
not gonna try and come back at you with advanced
day analytics or anything like that. Underlying number. The underlying
numbers do suggest he's more in the third tier quarterbacks
at this point, more like the twenty first, twenty second
best quarterback going in pro football at this point. And
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like you say, I mean there are other you know,
people keep saying what else should they have done? What
else was out there? Keeping justin Fields was possibly?
Speaker 1 (23:36):
They watched Justin Fields all season.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Okay, he started out four and two and they still
made a change, and that tell that tells.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
You where no and the Jets got him for a
bag of balls.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
I mean, it says something, Dave, that you're watching the
guy in practice he has a four and two record and.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Still plays downfield.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
All these other statistics that they looked at, and as
soon as Russell Wilson showed up, they were putting up
thirty eight and forty two points with the same offense
that couldn't get anything going.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Now, I get it they ended the season poorly, But Dave.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Don't tell me when they were rolling the first five
or six weeks where Russell and scoring thirty eight points,
you were like, wow.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Tool fouls too, or fouse.
Speaker 8 (24:19):
Thanks, thank goodness for social media and podcasts, both of
which are recorded for posterity. I said, when everybody was
celebrating Russell Wilson, where do you think this leads? Do
you think this leads to postseason success? Mike Tomlins thought
in mid December, when I think most of the rest
of the world had come around on Okay waterfind this level.
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Russell Wilson at age thirty six is starting to play
like Russell Wilson at age thirty six. There was no
real hope that the Steelers were going to make a
playoff run. Except in Mike Tomlins mind. He does not
have a great handle on the QB room. He is remarkable.
He is the greatest war razer in Pro football this millennium.
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And that is in spite of the fact that he
is not a great QB whisperer. He doesn't have a
great understanding of it. To yank Justin Fields at four
and two resulted in exactly what I predicted.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
It was.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
You have predicted that they were gonna win five of
six when he got yanked.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
That's what your prediction was. That the still is gonna
win five of six.
Speaker 8 (25:24):
I predicted that by yanking Justin Fields, it was gonna
result in them losing their bridge quarterback for twenty twenty five,
who could have and should have been Justin Fields. The
baggage of Aaron Rodgers is not worth it under any circumstances.
And you don't have to ask me about that. Go
ask Gouden Kootston, everybody up in Green Bay, and go
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ask Bob Salah and Joe Douglas who no longer live
in New York or in New Jersey because Aaron Rodgers
saw to it that he burned down that franchise.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Did he burn it down?
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Or did the defense that was supposedly top five defense
also fail?
Speaker 1 (26:00):
I could go on and on, and if you want
to get everyone, if you want to give.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
The Jets a pass, because they've been bad for a
very long time. I grew up going to Jets games
at Chase Stadium. It's a bad organization. If you want
to say it was Aaron Rodgers, fine. They also had
Brett Farby started eight and three, didn't make the playoffs
that year with the Jets, and he went on the
Minnesota No but I mean, but he.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
He played, He played the entire season. He played here
here here.
Speaker 8 (26:27):
Here's a semi nuanced point that is I think valid,
and you could see it if you watch the Jets
play last year, which is that you know, for all
the talk about happy feet, this guy who's coming into
the league sometimes gets a little skinish when the big
bodies get around him. In fact, you see that playout
as guys get older, they become more mortal, they understand
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their own mortality. Aaron Rodgers looked like a guy last
year who did not want to take shots. He is
going to get hit. He understands that now and he
doesn't want anything to do with that. This is about
burnishing or rebuilding his legacy that was diminished by his
own actions and his terrible play at the back end
in Green Bay and then with the Jets last year.
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He wants to rebuild these He has no interest. He's
there to play mercenary for himself. He has no interest
in the Steelers brand or building anything with the Steelers.
This is a sequel to a movie that no one
enjoyed the first time for Mike Tomlin with Russell Wilson.
Now they're running it back despite the fact that no
(27:34):
one wanted to see it happen.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
It might be Peyton Manning. Peyton Manning didn't play well
and guess what, Denver did They want.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
A superman Now they're not built like that.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
Rob Dave devinscheck our guest host of The Chech Show
on YouTube. It was amazing to listen to you, Dave,
because you sounded like me for the last six months
going back and forth Rob about this stuff. I was
team Justin Fields. Give him a shot. Nobody was saying
he was Lamar Jackson. But let's see on his star
team in three years. And I was also Russell Wilson
teams in three years and twenty five. And if you
were gonna even stay with an Aaron Rodgers, then go
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stay with Russell Wilson. To me, just if you just
run that back and this is what you're gonna do,
I'm sean. Let me ask you this. Even if Aaron Rodgers,
who I do believe can still play the quarterback position,
I don't think he's terrible where I don't see the
longevity of this. So is this simply that Mike Tomlin
can say in his mind, ooh ooh, I made it
to the postseason and ooh ooh, maybe I won a game.
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Because it's not sustainable, it's not long term. So I'm
looking at it as other teams have their guy for
the future, the Jade and Daniels, the Lamar Jacksons and
Josh Allens, the Joe Burrows, the Justin Herbert. You're going
down the line, what's this for the Steelers? Meaning Okay,
we got him for a year? What was the point
of that?
Speaker 8 (28:41):
It's one and done. It gets them no clerk closer
to what the ultimate goal is, which is landing the
answer at quarterback long term. In fact, this is schizophrenic.
If you think Aaron Rodgers is a game or three
better than Mason Rudolph, then why would you bring him
into the building when it seems pretty clear that a
Super Bowl is not going to be the end result?
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Devin want a playoff game in nine years you're talking
about as a super Bowl? Dave Devin won a playoff
game since Moby Dick was a guppy.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
I mean, come on, exactly. At some point, great, at.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Some point, Mike Tomlin needs to win, the general manager
needs to win, the organization needs to win a playoff game.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Let's can we start there before you talk about a
Super Bowl?
Speaker 8 (29:27):
Rob we park our cars in the same garage on
that Mike Tomlin stands at the podium all the time
and declares he doesn't seek comfort. That's exactly what this
move is about. It is seeking comfort in the short
term to try to get a playoff win, to get
that stink off of him. But at the same time
they're trying to pull off the Indianapolis Colts failed approach,
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which is, let's just bring in a mercenary quarterback one
year at a time, whether it was Carson Wentz or
Phil Rivers or any or Joe Blacko or Matt Ryan,
whoever they brought in. The Steelers are now going that
exact same method, and maybe, if they're lucky, they'll get
the same results that the Colt Scott Anthony Richardson. Maybe
(30:12):
that's what they can pine for. Maybe that's what this
is all a big build up to. In the short term,
This is not any sort of a solution. This is
a one year attempt to fix things in sort of
an intermediate level. I don't think anybody brightly thinks in
this AFC Mike Tomlin may be holding on to distant
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memories when he was an assistant with the Tampa Bay
Buccaneers in the early part of this century when he
saw Brad Johnson get carried to a Super Bowl by
a defense. The difference is the rules can't changing and
his marginalized defense. More and more over the last couple
of decades, the attempt to pull the inside straight of
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playing a bum QB and still making hay in the
playoffs is just about non exis distant. Whereas it was
a little more plausible a decade ago, it no longer exists.
Look at the teams that made the playoffs last year,
to go all the way back where Kelvin was on
justin fields, you know, I agree? Is he Is he
(31:16):
a Hall of Famer? No he's not. But if you
look at what the Philadelphia Eagles have done over the
last couple of years in building up the line of scrimmage,
very clearly that is what the Steelers have been trying
to do, which is follow the Eagles plan of loading
up with the line of scrimmage both sides and then
putting a quarterback in here who you can limit the
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decision making, just like Jalen Hurts. If that path was
available to the Eagles, it was semi available to the
Pittsburgh Steelers except for the fact back to the schizophrenia,
which is they just traded away George Pickens, who was
also on his last year. So by trading him away,
you get yourself a little further away from the Super Bowl.
What the goal is this year is hard the divine
(32:01):
based on bringing in Aaron Rodgers, but trading away George Pickett.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
All right, well, Dave, we will soon see you and
I seem to be on the same page. We'll talk
to you a little bit later on about this and
some other NFL topics as well. Dave Devinshick, we appreciate
you as always, brother, Thank.
Speaker 8 (32:15):
You good time fellas. Let's just see if Rogers brings
out American flag out when he runs back out onto
the Jets field the week one like he did a
couple of years ago.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
We'll have to wait and see. Hey, we got shop
Talk all the way, Shop Talk. Rob G's cooking up
something for us.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
It's The Odd Couple Robin Kelvin on a TV thing
some on Thursday, Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple
with Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm
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iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
I'm looking forward to seeing the new one. You see that?
Wait well, oh no, I don't want to ask you why.
I mean, how many have there been?
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Now?
Speaker 1 (32:52):
I know that I'll give you that. No, we don't
need another mention. Impossibly been good though, Rob.
Speaker 6 (32:56):
Everybody keeps telling me the same thing.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
It's too long, they did too much.
Speaker 4 (32:59):
I did hear. This one is as gray as the
other one. The other ones have been brilliantly. Go already, Molly,
let go Hollywood, let go free money. Why would they
ever do that? They're on Fast and Furious seventy six.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
They just they're all that they're lazy because they know
everybody knows what michig impossible is. We need to do
it out and went out to do it, like, get
people a look into something easy money cost of two
hundred will make it.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
We got on that much time.
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Speaker 1 (33:38):
Signing out for shop talk. Ain't nobody ASTiP being a
bum shop you know that.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
Ain't nobody you would talk about whoever, whatever, whatever you
want to in the boss up.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Why you not wait?
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Shop talk? That's right?
Speaker 5 (33:52):
It is shot talk here on the eye couple of
segment when we talk about something happened outside of the
world is sports this week we kind of cheated as
an inside joke. I don't know if you guys got the
text message, but we did. Rob Parker. Rob text a
lot of people, so maybe you got it. Rob Parker
was at.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
The stadium today.
Speaker 5 (34:08):
I believe it was what Dodgers mets yep, very excited
about it, and he sent us a photo from inside
of the men's room. Gross right had left either the
media center or the concession stand with two plates of
food something nature called, as it were, and they came in,
put their food right there on the sink in the restroom,
(34:30):
proceed to do their business.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Here's the question.
Speaker 5 (34:33):
If you have food in your hand at a stadium,
wherever you got it from, and nature calls, what is
the move? Do you leave it outside of the restroom
and riskly getting stolen? Do you do as this guy
did and leave it right there on the counter for
everyone to see while you take care of business. Do
you bring it in with you so that you know
people don't see what you're doing. Or do you, last
(34:55):
but not least, run the risk of trying to get
to your seat, put the food down, and make it
back before an accident happens.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Rob this happened to you. Your thoughts.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
I would rather leave my food outside the bathroom on
the floor.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
I'm dead serious. Like you know, it was in the container.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
I would leave it there if I had nobody to
watch it and I really had to go or whatever.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
To me, I was so grossed out by it.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
That's why I took a picture of it, because I
couldn't believe someone would bring their food in. Why not
just bring it in the stall with you. If you
gonna leave it, I'm that serious. If it doesn't matter,
bring it in the stall and put it on your
lap while you're doing number two.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
That part I agree with it.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
If you're gonna bring it in, just bring it in
the stall with you.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
You know how. The toilet paper part has a little
little bit of a room, a little ledge.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
We're gonna put it up on that ledge, or we're
gonna set it by, put some paper towel on the ground,
put it on the ground if we if we're gonna
bring it in. But uh, this is funny, though, mister
bear bud on the on the toilet over here, what
I'm hovering. First of all, we don't believe you like that, Okay,
I don't believe your thighs can handle it that long.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
I don't. I don't think so. Yeah, I'm not. I'm not.
I'm looking at it right now.
Speaker 4 (36:07):
And the funniest part about this, rob G is the
food selection, meaning it's some healthy It's like a box
of fruit food.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Man, you would think you would think it's burger and fry.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
Guy. Healthy person seems like, well, I'm gonna go ahead
and put this here. Many Mansy was there at Dodgers station.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Yes, I saw her, not in this stall, not in
the stall.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
No you were not that you were not in the
stall while your food was on the safe No, what
about you?
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Could you? I couldn't do it. I could not. I
could not do it.
Speaker 6 (36:36):
I would probably leave it out.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
This is a situation where I'm alone, right like, I
don't have a friend with you.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
I would probably leave it and hope for the best. Yeah,
lion taking it.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Here's the thing is you think you're gonna have enough
time to get into the stall and like put it
on top of that area.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
No, you're gonna as you're It's different for ladies. I
gotta sit down as I'm taking my piant step. No, no,
no bad. If I'm in the stall, I'm sit down too.
Speaker 6 (37:00):
I would spill it.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
You're right, I would spill it, though I think you would.
Speaker 6 (37:03):
I would be too nervous, and I would.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
What's nervous? Form? You're telling me? Nature is calling real quick?
Speaker 4 (37:12):
Listen, Nature gonna have to hold on to you alan,
So you taking it in or you're good, but my
teeth while mom on the toilet, I'll bring food in
with me.
Speaker 6 (37:20):
It's self contained. What are you afraid of? You're that
You sound like the guy that's afraid of like a
river water, afraid of some dirt. I have to wash
my hands before I eat food.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Because you might. You know I was with you. I
was with you to the last point.
Speaker 6 (37:33):
You're listening a guy who bare cheeks the seventy.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
With you that I am.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
What if you're what if you eat much in a
sandwich and water splashes up onto your sandwar sandwich.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
Let's go you you.
Speaker 4 (37:45):
Dropped the bomb, if the toy, the water flashed through
you and up to the to the to the sandwich
the sandwich, dang, Rob, go ahead.
Speaker 5 (37:55):
I like to live dangerously. I'm trying to make it
to my seat and make a hustle back. I wanted
to race against time.
Speaker 4 (38:00):
So you're gonna leave the food at your seat, I'm
gonna run all the way to the seat, put it down,
and try to make it to the rescue before.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
It before somebody touches it or something happens.
Speaker 5 (38:08):
Yeah, but I'm probably not gonna make it, to be
honest with Jesus. And we have to leave the stadium early, and.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
I'm not putting. I just can't. The bathroom was filled
with so many jobs. I don't disagree with that.
Speaker 6 (38:17):
I don't contain.
Speaker 5 (38:18):
But don't you bring your phone with you into the
restauem when you're in the Yeah, but I'm not using it.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
Walk happens in the restaurant, Rob, Still, you were absolutely
using the phone in the restaurant.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
No, no, not only absolutely.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
All they say on the comments on YouTube is about
my phone.
Speaker 4 (38:31):
Yeah, which is why we know you're using it on
a toy rob sending fax machines from the toy You
know good and well those pictures he posts, isn't a toilet.
Just found a picture of me and a toilet in
ninety eight
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(01:16):
us in about twenty eight minutes. And Rob G, you
were saying Ian O'Connor was wrong, He was not wrong.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
He said that he didn't want to go to mandatory camp.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
No here the story here on Pro Football Talk, well
no USA today that he would buy the start of
mandatory mini camp in early June. That's exactly what it's
said in the story. I remember us talking about it.
Did you remember that? Okay, that's all I'm just saying,
Like Rob G, I'm not trying to call you out.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
No, no, no, I want you to call him out. I
want the same energy. Stop the show, start it over, Alex.
We're starting for the time.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
It's a so much Thursday. That's what it is. No, no, no,
rob Just because robb G.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
One guy, one guy is happily married, one guy gets
called where three beautiful, that's what I want.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
I don't want to know.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Well, I've been knowing rob G for seven eight years,
and no give him that smoke. My ears were still
ringing for the other day. You're yelling at me so much,
rob G. Get the smoke.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
When you went home, your wife said, I turned it off.
I can't. I said, hey, babe, you listen to the show.
I can't. I was yelling at each other. I can't
stand our boy.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
TP was talking about you today, Timothy Parker, what he
say he was in he was on the news show
today and he said.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Man, you're Rob going crazy, Rob saying crazy stuff. He'd
be everywhere. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, that's not about right, Okay, right, no,
don't try No. Back to the smoke for Rob g G.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
I just wanted you to get cause I was like,
when you said that, I was like, kind of, I
thought I heard it another way and I was questioning
myself seriously. So I looked it up because it was
bother me and I was like, I thought for sure,
he said in time for Miniekim.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Got mixed up with another reporter. Okay, It's fine.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
No, every since Rob's he's been acting different, different, ever
since you know what I'm talking about, since ever since
he about to bring Sexy back.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
He know what I'm talking about, Rob G. Have they
stuck you yet? We are on day two.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
That's why you're acting different different. It's just me left
Manti Alex. You be on and off.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
I already know, Manx. It depends on your hair.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Like today when you and your Steven Seagal back with
the hair slick back and everything, you be acting a
little different.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
And just you feel myself a little That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
So Rob come in fat shaming us on on social media?
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Did you not fat shame us or no?
Speaker 4 (03:40):
No?
Speaker 1 (03:40):
I was trying to help them.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
That's how you help somebody. ROI was talking about baby
and his baby to sleep. I'm over here doing homework
and we catching strays.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
On on on X.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
All I'm saying is I'm concerned about my I want
to work with you guys for the next five or
six years.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
I can't wait for the fall when he gets fat
and he's back and we can wait October.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
What do we say? Six whatever? That Monday is BA boy,
you back, come back? Yeah, I'm gonna be in Connecticut
on the fourth.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
On the fifth, I fly back for the challenge, and
on the sixth, right after the show, I don't want
to hear no excuse, I'm gonna go home my wife.
There none everybody got four months. That's four months from today.
What's today?
Speaker 1 (04:24):
The fifth? Yes? Fourth?
Speaker 3 (04:26):
No?
Speaker 1 (04:26):
What's the day? Fifth? Right?
Speaker 2 (04:28):
So four days from tomorrow or four months from tomorrow.
The sixth is when we're all going out to celebrate.
I can't wait for you came and I might even
make so much money to be paid too. I'm gonna
make so much fun of you at the super Bowl
this year.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Where are we at. We're in the Bay. When we're
in the Bay, well two hours from that night, we
in Oregon or something like that. But wherever we are, Quebec,
I'm gonna be making so much fun of you when
you're eating them free wings.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Yes, let's talk about it. We got it.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Kind of got a little preview with Mark Stein. We
do man, you and him wa again. And I'll say
this too. I'm known Mark for a long time and
he's fine. But you can't tell me that the ratings
don't matter. And he was saying that the only sport
that's maligned, how many times people bring.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Up baseball ratings?
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Come on beyond has been smacked. Okay, two years on
and all right, and now all the ratings are rock.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Last year was a big year, that's right, right, And
this year you saw all the numbers are off. Rob
g and I had it on the podcast.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
They're doing really well with the changes in the game
and people are watching and young people too. So ratings
are You could say, well, they got a big compact contract.
That's fine, But you can't tell me that if after
Game one. The overnight ratings are good that they're not
going to put them out there.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
They won't.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
They're gonna be tonight ratings, right, Adam Silver will call
a press thirty. They're gonna sit down. We're supposed to
be SGA. He goes the way, move out the way. Hey,
tell everybody the ratings were great on if you saw
those we got those numbers in right now, that's my bad, SGA.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Go ahead, no doubt about it, all right, you got
uh done?
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Okay? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (06:03):
And I just saw the picks on ESPN game everybody
on the path they all have the thunder and six
even Steven and and you know the records not that good, right,
all right?
Speaker 1 (06:16):
But I don't think Steve.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
The brother on TV, I don't even know what he's doing.
Who is that brother right there? That wasn't the baseball yet?
However he was Pops. Pops was looking a little distraught.
That's how I feel right now that you just told
me everybody just picked everybody?
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Now, no, I got the thunder a couple of reasons.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Number one, I think we've all just ignored greatness as
far as the season. And I'm not saying a great
team all time, but it's been in our face, including
the individual player s g A, and including the team.
I've said here now for weeks talking about their point differential,
how the historic rate, and now including the playoffs, they
have surpassed the Bulls with the the I'm sorry, the
(06:56):
Warriors with the most wins by double digits, sixty one
wins this season including the postseason by double digits. That
means it's just blowing out everybody night in, night out.
We know what they've done defensively as well. They have
so many different ways to come at you. We can
come individually, man up. We have schemes where we can
put guys in the middle. Caruso can guard any position
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including Yolkis, which is crazy.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
And then they have a guy who is.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Doing other historic things on the offensive end, SGA scoring
thirty plus points on fifty percent shooting for a couple
of two three years now. And the only other guy
done that is Jordan, and so it's just remarkable what
he's done. He goes right into the playoffs, done the
same thing Eastern Conference Finals, I mean the MVP, Eastern
Conference Finals MVP, and now he's trying to be the
finals MVP and I just think they're gonna be too much.
(07:44):
And it's kind of been a storm coming. Rob forty
wins a couple of years ago, fifty seven last year,
and disappointing exit in the playoffs last season, and now
this one. They get to the finals, they won sixty
eight games, and I just think they're sitting there like, duh,
this was ours from the beginning. Why did you think
we didn't have a chance to win this thing? So
I think SGA, you put thirty thirty five points on
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the board immediately. When he's gonna be playing and what's
gonna be interesting to see Tyres Halliburton. My only concern
for him is does he understand you? And I talked
about it. He needs to be aggressive at all times.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Now.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
This isn't a normal game midweek in the middle of
the season. This isn't a first round. This is the finals,
and his team is gonna need him every night to
be aggressive. It doesn't mean taking a bunch of shots.
It just means trying to create for himself for others
every single play. But I ultimately I just think the
thunder are too much. I have it in five wouldn't
be shocked if maybe it goes to six. But I
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think it's just thunder. I think they're too much and
it's just kind of been sitting there. We've all just
ignored it.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Here's something that Rob just came down. You got a
little breaking news, Rob.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
G Shoot, I know if it's breaking news, but this
conversation is breaking news.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Ok. S just announced their starters for tonight's game. One.
Isaiah Hartenstein has already been benched.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Still like you're all year, you've been doing this and
you're just talking about all the numbers. There's no reason
to change. You remember when what's his name, avery A
john Avery Johnson was coaching, do you remember and they lost?
They were eight seed against the one and he changed
his life.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
It was against the Warriors, we believe Warriors, Warriors against
the Dallas Mavericks, right, you remember that it was the
one seed against Yeah, he changes lineup to accommodate them,
and i'm a and Stan Van Gundy did the same thing.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
You remember.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
That was the big thing about Stan not being and
when the moment came that that's when they went to
the finals with skipped to Malou and then and then
Jamiir Nelson.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
That was a great was playing well, he was playing
well and there was no reason.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Remember that he should be Yeah, because Jamiir Nelson and
played like it was. And then they changed the lineup
to get Jamir in there, and I know he was
like their franchise guys. But now you can't change. And
I'm just gonna say this. You know, I know I'm
the underdog. Everybody I saw has picked the thunder and
I get it, and that's fine. I'm gonna give the
(10:12):
Pacers a chance at winning this. And my reasoning is
simple two things. Okay, they have something going seriously in
all three series they were not supposed to win, and
they've come up with with unbelievable wins along the way
to do that, which is incredible. And sometimes teams have
(10:34):
something going. And I alluded to the two thousand and
four Pistons, which was the team that was, you know,
star studed and won all the games, compared to the
team that was a team like the Pistons to be
the last team really like team team Rob G?
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Is that fair, Kevin? You know the team.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
I'm not asking Rob G as an outsider, as somebody
who was a Laker fan, who didn't you expect to
win that championship.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
I expected it to be a sweet.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Seriously, like you looked at it and you went, the
Pistons are good. They had a nice season.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Kind of crazy, y'all really thought that. I'm not saying
they picked the Lakers. People, they were.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
One of the biggest favorites in the NBA Finals, but
I feel like we're people watching.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
You were there that Pistons team was having teams not
score seventy.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
But they didn't care because they looked at where the
Lakers were.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
And remember when the Lakers came into that finals in
two thousand and four, they had won three in a
row and then didn't win the year three, but then
they were back right back, so they had one looking
at three championships in four years, even.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Though it was three in a row. You know, it's
kind of weird to scutch.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Me right and people four in five years and people
fully expected.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
I told you the story before.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Ja Donde, who was the comments at the LA Times
at the time, and when the Pistons won Game one,
you know, we're just eating in the press room and
he's like, Okay, this is over now, They'll win the
next four and will be over, so all right, you know,
and then the Pistons lost game two, so there's like like, yeah,
this'll be over now now they got that one win.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Okay, so we're not even coming back the win the
next three games.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
And when to Detroit after the Fens is one game three,
well not a Lakers will winning next not.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
I was like, Jay, can you stop, like seriously?
Speaker 2 (12:14):
And all I'm gonna say is Pacers have something going
sometimes overwhelming and the first time where you don't know
if they get behind or lose a game, how that
can change. Here you are, you're already making a lineup
change where might feel different?
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Or why are we doing this? We've been so good?
Why change?
Speaker 4 (12:35):
You know what I'm trying to dissect, like like a
little smaller, little faster, But.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
But it's it's just a bad thing because what is it?
Why what are you doing here? This has worked? There's
no reason to tinker with something that has been rolling
all year long. And they and it was a blink.
And we've seen some teams do that, and I don't
think it's good. It's in their best interest. Just go
with what you want. You can still start them and
if you just want to get somebody extra minutes, but
(13:01):
don't all of a sudden, because then you're gonna have
people's second guess you you're setting up the second guest.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
But I think to their credit, the way this is
Rob's both of y'all. This is why the Thunder can
do this is because all year they have been united
almost to funt, meaning they take away from the star
moments because jay Len Williams at a great guy, and
everybody's there. Sga, you had another forty, but everybody's there,
(13:27):
and they're so united that I agree. If this were
the Knicks and you said, carlthy Towns isn't starting and
we're gonna throw in Mitchell Robinson, we're gonna throw in
you know, another guard or something right or something or Sammitt,
then I can see you losing him. This Thunder team
is built so much like a college just fratause they're
all friends and all of that. I don't see this
(13:47):
bothering him. I think he probably would go this actually
makes sense.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Coach.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
I'm still gonna get some minutes. I'm cool with that.
Let's just win a championship.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
So I'm gonna say Pacers in six in six, yep,
well you got Thunder and five. Because the only way
they're gonna win it. I don't believe the pacer is
gonna win it seven. I think they have to do
what they did against the Knicks, uh like, do something shocking. Well, like,
obviously they got to win tonight's game. And in the
(14:15):
format I know it's two to two and then one
one one, right.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Yeahah, they got Pistons the reason they got rid of
at three.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
So to me, if they're going to do that, they
would have Game six at home, you know what I mean,
and not Game seven.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
All right, you gotta quit hate, man. It's okay.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
The Lakers have thirty five championships, twenty eight whatever a million,
It's okay.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
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picking our picks. Rob's got the Pacers and six I
have the Thunder and five looking forward to this thing
starting off here in a matter of minutes eight seven,
seven ninety nine on Fox.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
We got Jerry in Seattle. You're on the couple of
Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Jerry?
Speaker 7 (16:25):
How much guys?
Speaker 1 (16:26):
How y'all doing doing great?
Speaker 7 (16:27):
How you I'm good man? Sunny day out here. So Rob,
I gotta agree.
Speaker 8 (16:33):
With you on the Pacers.
Speaker 7 (16:34):
Man, I'm as one of these kind of old school
dudes who's been hating on the NBA lately.
Speaker 8 (16:39):
I'm really digging.
Speaker 7 (16:41):
These playoffs, you know, Like fact the refs are letting.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Them play right, That's true, That is definitely true.
Speaker 7 (16:48):
And even though the Pacers are kind of like this
new age team, you know, or the new modern team
with the long guys and they all hit the threes, man,
they've got the grit that, like, I think some of
us older school dudes really can appreciate. And I think
Carlisle is, like, you know, I think he gives them
a little bit of an edge and uh yeah, we'll see.
I just think that Oklahoma goes gets down a little bit.
(17:10):
I don't know if they know how to respond to it.
So yeah, I'm excited about the Pacers now, all.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Right, Jerry?
Speaker 4 (17:16):
Yeah, good boy, Jerry. The Rick Carlile part, I don't
think it's been understated. Rick Carlisle is really really good coach.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
I'll give you. I'll give you that. Jerry.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
A Town in Michigan, you're on the couple of Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
What's up? A Town and Arbor?
Speaker 8 (17:30):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (17:30):
How you doing doing great? How you good?
Speaker 5 (17:34):
Good?
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Good?
Speaker 9 (17:34):
Hey man?
Speaker 8 (17:35):
I got the Pacers and six?
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Also, wow, why pacers in six? I'm confused they.
Speaker 8 (17:43):
Got and they got Carlisle.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Okay, it's hard to argue with either one.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
Tell you someone coming to my twenty twenty five that
somebody will say a team gonna win because they got Sam.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
I ain't see that.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
He's want a championship. I like, I told my boy
that was why I thought the Paceer would be the Nicks.
But I didn't thin We're gonna making finals because of
this is crazy?
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Who we got? Brian in Michigan. You're on the couple
of Fox Sports Radio. What's happening?
Speaker 10 (18:08):
To it going on, fellas, how you doing?
Speaker 1 (18:11):
What's up buddy?
Speaker 10 (18:12):
Hey, So it's simple for me. I got the Pacers
in seven Wow, for a couple of reasons. Number one
experiences they've been there. Carlisle knows it. He's already out
coaching Oklahoma City's coach because they changed the lineup, right.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
That's a mistake. Why guys, as early, we don't know
if it's gonna play out. Rob g thumbs down on
the lineup change.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Right, No lineup change has been working all year, Brian,
Why are you changing the lineup?
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Case on.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
Wallace's first career playoff start will be in game one
of the INBA.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Yes, why why? Kelvin that's great coaching. Okay, that's great coach.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
And if they lose game one, oh my god, Like seriously,
they're great coaching.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
He's saying, y'all like to be fast up and down
running Hartenstein. Come here, baby, have a seat. This interesting
the anti coach pockets.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
This ain't exactly.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
He ain't gonna just stand there and be like, uh,
figure it out on three.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Watch two three, figure it out?
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Hey, you know what he should be like rolling the
balls out like the gym teacher, like all right, when
you have to have basketball, just roll the ball something,
go ahead, just quickly.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
What if this backfires and they lose game one? Okay,
y'all gotta say asking no, But I'm saying hard down
is a quality. I'm not saying that he's not. But
the the idea of changing what got you here, right,
that'll be That'll be the conversation is all. That's all
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Does he get if if if they get it, if
they lose, he gets too? You mean this? I think
it would be more of the series the game.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
No, no, no, But people will say why you know, Like
that'll be the topic of could you just set up
a narrative if you lose and say you lose game one, right,
and then maybe you go back to your lineup or
something and you lose.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
They'll be like, honestly, guys, if you think if you
said it was for another big who that's weird. It
makes sense what he's doing. The Pacers run the ball,
they're a fast team. They love to score it less three.
You should let them adjust to you, not the other
way around. You shouldn't have to adjust to the Pacers, all.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Right, y'all? Putting a little too much starking Hartenstein.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
All right, now, settle down, everybody, Drew Hartenstein, Yeah, uh, well,
Drew in New Jersey.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
You're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Drew?
Speaker 9 (20:14):
Hey, guys, I definitely have okay see in six. But
I'm definitely impressed with the Rick Carlisle. I think he's
the best coach in the league. And I think it's
kind of interesting that look at the two players that
were in the conference finals, the coach and player, right,
both of the guys were part of the NAS organization.
Those were one of the first moves that Niko Harris
(20:34):
did when he came on. He got rid of Rick Carlisle.
You ranck Rick Carlile out of Dallas. He got rid
of he chose not to re sign Jalen Brunson.
Speaker 5 (20:44):
Right.
Speaker 9 (20:45):
Also, I think that Paul George is like the Kevin Dakin.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
There, here's the sixth degrees of separation for sure.
Speaker 9 (20:53):
Yep, especially with this series. Does he get a ring
for this?
Speaker 1 (20:57):
No, I know he deserves one of at least a necklace.
How about a necklace? They they'll present it to him
on his podcast.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
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You got the You've had that from me.
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He's got the NBA Finals kicking off here in just
a little bit. But your big news also was Aaron
Rodgers uh looking to be signing with the Steelers coming
up here at some point. Dave Damashek, host of The
ch Show on YouTube, joins us now to talk a
little bit about that.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Dave, what's happening? How are you hey?
Speaker 8 (21:52):
Fellas? What's happening?
Speaker 10 (21:54):
Kelvin and Rob?
Speaker 8 (21:55):
Good to yapp with you once again. And my reaction
is that apparent. I tried to keep saying that Tomlin
and the Omar Kahan and the Steelers at large, you
guys gotta go and see Sinners. They didn't listen to me.
They missed the message. The central message of that movie
is you don't invite the vampire into your building on purpose.
(22:16):
He's gonna suck the soul out of you, just like
he tried to do with the Packers, just like he
did do with the Jets. This is the guy you're
bringing in. He's not even good anymore. He's a forty
two year old man at this point. What is the
upside of all this? I don't see it, Dave.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
He had the same numbers as Patrick Mahomes last year,
same exact numbers. I'm just telling you. They didn't have
the win totals. And I get it he's not a
likable guy. But Dave, I think you're over dramatic. I
really do. I think Aaron Rodgers is still a good quot.
He had twenty eight touchdowns. Guess what Patrick Mahomes had
twenty six. Aaron Rodgers had eleven interceptions. Patrick Mahomes had
(22:52):
eleven interceptions. I mean, so Patrick, So Patrick Mahomes can't
play either.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 8 (22:58):
No, listen, here, here's what I'm just asking you.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
The numbers are the numbers.
Speaker 8 (23:04):
I mean a raw touchdown number, and I am certainly
not gonna try and come back at you with advanced
day analytics or anything like that. Underlying number. The underlying
numbers do suggest he's more in the third tier quarterbacks
at this point, more like the twenty first, twenty second
best quarterback going in pro football at this point. And
(23:28):
like you say, I mean there are other you know,
people keep saying what else should they have done? What
else was out there? Keeping justin Fields was possibly?
Speaker 1 (23:36):
They watched Justin Fields all season.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Okay, he started out four and two and they still
made a change, and that tell that tells.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
You where no and the Jets got him for a
bag of balls.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
I mean, it says something, Dave, that you're watching the
guy in practice he has a four and two record and.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Still plays downfield.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
All these other statistics that they looked at, and as
soon as Russell Wilson showed up, they were putting up
thirty eight and forty two points with the same offense
that couldn't get anything going.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Now, I get it they ended the season poorly, But Dave.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Don't tell me when they were rolling the first five
or six weeks where Russell and scoring thirty eight points,
you were like, wow.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Tool fouls too, or fouse.
Speaker 8 (24:19):
Thanks, thank goodness for social media and podcasts, both of
which are recorded for posterity. I said, when everybody was
celebrating Russell Wilson, where do you think this leads? Do
you think this leads to postseason success? Mike Tomlins thought
in mid December, when I think most of the rest
of the world had come around on Okay waterfind this level.
(24:42):
Russell Wilson at age thirty six is starting to play
like Russell Wilson at age thirty six. There was no
real hope that the Steelers were going to make a
playoff run. Except in Mike Tomlins mind. He does not
have a great handle on the QB room. He is remarkable.
He is the greatest war razer in Pro football this millennium.
(25:03):
And that is in spite of the fact that he
is not a great QB whisperer. He doesn't have a
great understanding of it. To yank Justin Fields at four
and two resulted in exactly what I predicted.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
It was.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
You have predicted that they were gonna win five of
six when he got yanked.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
That's what your prediction was. That the still is gonna
win five of six.
Speaker 8 (25:24):
I predicted that by yanking Justin Fields, it was gonna
result in them losing their bridge quarterback for twenty twenty five,
who could have and should have been Justin Fields. The
baggage of Aaron Rodgers is not worth it under any circumstances.
And you don't have to ask me about that. Go
ask Gouden Kootston, everybody up in Green Bay, and go
(25:44):
ask Bob Salah and Joe Douglas who no longer live
in New York or in New Jersey because Aaron Rodgers
saw to it that he burned down that franchise.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Did he burn it down?
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Or did the defense that was supposedly top five defense
also fail?
Speaker 1 (26:00):
I could go on and on, and if you want
to get everyone, if you want to give.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
The Jets a pass, because they've been bad for a
very long time. I grew up going to Jets games
at Chase Stadium. It's a bad organization. If you want
to say it was Aaron Rodgers, fine. They also had
Brett Farby started eight and three, didn't make the playoffs
that year with the Jets, and he went on the
Minnesota No but I mean, but he.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
He played, He played the entire season. He played here
here here.
Speaker 8 (26:27):
Here's a semi nuanced point that is I think valid,
and you could see it if you watch the Jets
play last year, which is that you know, for all
the talk about happy feet, this guy who's coming into
the league sometimes gets a little skinish when the big
bodies get around him. In fact, you see that playout
as guys get older, they become more mortal, they understand
(26:50):
their own mortality. Aaron Rodgers looked like a guy last
year who did not want to take shots. He is
going to get hit. He understands that now and he
doesn't want anything to do with that. This is about
burnishing or rebuilding his legacy that was diminished by his
own actions and his terrible play at the back end
in Green Bay and then with the Jets last year.
(27:13):
He wants to rebuild these He has no interest. He's
there to play mercenary for himself. He has no interest
in the Steelers brand or building anything with the Steelers.
This is a sequel to a movie that no one
enjoyed the first time for Mike Tomlin with Russell Wilson.
Now they're running it back despite the fact that no
(27:34):
one wanted to see it happen.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
It might be Peyton Manning. Peyton Manning didn't play well
and guess what, Denver did They want.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
A superman Now they're not built like that.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
Rob Dave devinscheck our guest host of The Chech Show
on YouTube. It was amazing to listen to you, Dave,
because you sounded like me for the last six months
going back and forth Rob about this stuff. I was
team Justin Fields. Give him a shot. Nobody was saying
he was Lamar Jackson. But let's see on his star
team in three years. And I was also Russell Wilson
teams in three years and twenty five. And if you
were gonna even stay with an Aaron Rodgers, then go
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stay with Russell Wilson. To me, just if you just
run that back and this is what you're gonna do,
I'm sean. Let me ask you this. Even if Aaron Rodgers,
who I do believe can still play the quarterback position,
I don't think he's terrible where I don't see the
longevity of this. So is this simply that Mike Tomlin
can say in his mind, ooh ooh, I made it
to the postseason and ooh ooh, maybe I won a game.
(28:24):
Because it's not sustainable, it's not long term. So I'm
looking at it as other teams have their guy for
the future, the Jade and Daniels, the Lamar Jacksons and
Josh Allens, the Joe Burrows, the Justin Herbert. You're going
down the line, what's this for the Steelers? Meaning Okay,
we got him for a year? What was the point
of that?
Speaker 8 (28:41):
It's one and done. It gets them no clerk closer
to what the ultimate goal is, which is landing the
answer at quarterback long term. In fact, this is schizophrenic.
If you think Aaron Rodgers is a game or three
better than Mason Rudolph, then why would you bring him
into the building when it seems pretty clear that a
Super Bowl is not going to be the end result?
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Devin want a playoff game in nine years you're talking
about as a super Bowl? Dave Devin won a playoff
game since Moby Dick was a guppy.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
I mean, come on, exactly. At some point, great, at.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Some point, Mike Tomlin needs to win, the general manager
needs to win, the organization needs to win a playoff game.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Let's can we start there before you talk about a
Super Bowl?
Speaker 8 (29:27):
Rob we park our cars in the same garage on
that Mike Tomlin stands at the podium all the time
and declares he doesn't seek comfort. That's exactly what this
move is about. It is seeking comfort in the short
term to try to get a playoff win, to get
that stink off of him. But at the same time
they're trying to pull off the Indianapolis Colts failed approach,
(29:50):
which is, let's just bring in a mercenary quarterback one
year at a time, whether it was Carson Wentz or
Phil Rivers or any or Joe Blacko or Matt Ryan,
whoever they brought in. The Steelers are now going that
exact same method, and maybe, if they're lucky, they'll get
the same results that the Colt Scott Anthony Richardson. Maybe
(30:12):
that's what they can pine for. Maybe that's what this
is all a big build up to. In the short term,
This is not any sort of a solution. This is
a one year attempt to fix things in sort of
an intermediate level. I don't think anybody brightly thinks in
this AFC Mike Tomlin may be holding on to distant
(30:34):
memories when he was an assistant with the Tampa Bay
Buccaneers in the early part of this century when he
saw Brad Johnson get carried to a Super Bowl by
a defense. The difference is the rules can't changing and
his marginalized defense. More and more over the last couple
of decades, the attempt to pull the inside straight of
(30:54):
playing a bum QB and still making hay in the
playoffs is just about non exis distant. Whereas it was
a little more plausible a decade ago, it no longer exists.
Look at the teams that made the playoffs last year,
to go all the way back where Kelvin was on
justin fields, you know, I agree? Is he Is he
(31:16):
a Hall of Famer? No he's not. But if you
look at what the Philadelphia Eagles have done over the
last couple of years in building up the line of scrimmage,
very clearly that is what the Steelers have been trying
to do, which is follow the Eagles plan of loading
up with the line of scrimmage both sides and then
putting a quarterback in here who you can limit the
(31:38):
decision making, just like Jalen Hurts. If that path was
available to the Eagles, it was semi available to the
Pittsburgh Steelers except for the fact back to the schizophrenia,
which is they just traded away George Pickens, who was
also on his last year. So by trading him away,
you get yourself a little further away from the Super Bowl.
What the goal is this year is hard the divine
(32:01):
based on bringing in Aaron Rodgers, but trading away George Pickett.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
All right, well, Dave, we will soon see you and
I seem to be on the same page. We'll talk
to you a little bit later on about this and
some other NFL topics as well. Dave Devinshick, we appreciate
you as always, brother, Thank.
Speaker 8 (32:15):
You good time fellas. Let's just see if Rogers brings
out American flag out when he runs back out onto
the Jets field the week one like he did a
couple of years ago.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
We'll have to wait and see. Hey, we got shop
Talk all the way, Shop Talk. Rob G's cooking up
something for us.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
It's The Odd Couple Robin Kelvin on a TV thing
some on Thursday, Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple
with Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm
Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the
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Speaker 1 (32:44):
I'm looking forward to seeing the new one. You see that?
Wait well, oh no, I don't want to ask you why.
I mean, how many have there been?
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Now?
Speaker 1 (32:52):
I know that I'll give you that. No, we don't
need another mention. Impossibly been good though, Rob.
Speaker 6 (32:56):
Everybody keeps telling me the same thing.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
It's too long, they did too much.
Speaker 4 (32:59):
I did hear. This one is as gray as the
other one. The other ones have been brilliantly. Go already, Molly,
let go Hollywood, let go free money. Why would they
ever do that? They're on Fast and Furious seventy six.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
They just they're all that they're lazy because they know
everybody knows what michig impossible is. We need to do
it out and went out to do it, like, get
people a look into something easy money cost of two
hundred will make it.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
We got on that much time.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
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Speaker 1 (33:38):
Signing out for shop talk. Ain't nobody ASTiP being a
bum shop you know that.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
Ain't nobody you would talk about whoever, whatever, whatever you
want to in the boss up.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Why you not wait?
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Shop talk? That's right?
Speaker 5 (33:52):
It is shot talk here on the eye couple of
segment when we talk about something happened outside of the
world is sports this week we kind of cheated as
an inside joke. I don't know if you guys got the
text message, but we did. Rob Parker. Rob text a
lot of people, so maybe you got it. Rob Parker
was at.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
The stadium today.
Speaker 5 (34:08):
I believe it was what Dodgers mets yep, very excited
about it, and he sent us a photo from inside
of the men's room. Gross right had left either the
media center or the concession stand with two plates of
food something nature called, as it were, and they came in,
put their food right there on the sink in the restroom,
(34:30):
proceed to do their business.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Here's the question.
Speaker 5 (34:33):
If you have food in your hand at a stadium,
wherever you got it from, and nature calls, what is
the move? Do you leave it outside of the restroom
and riskly getting stolen? Do you do as this guy
did and leave it right there on the counter for
everyone to see while you take care of business. Do
you bring it in with you so that you know
people don't see what you're doing. Or do you, last
(34:55):
but not least, run the risk of trying to get
to your seat, put the food down, and make it
back before an accident happens.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Rob this happened to you. Your thoughts.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
I would rather leave my food outside the bathroom on
the floor.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
I'm dead serious. Like you know, it was in the container.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
I would leave it there if I had nobody to
watch it and I really had to go or whatever.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
To me, I was so grossed out by it.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
That's why I took a picture of it, because I
couldn't believe someone would bring their food in. Why not
just bring it in the stall with you. If you
gonna leave it, I'm that serious. If it doesn't matter,
bring it in the stall and put it on your
lap while you're doing number two.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
That part I agree with it.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
If you're gonna bring it in, just bring it in
the stall with you.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
You know how. The toilet paper part has a little
little bit of a room, a little ledge.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
We're gonna put it up on that ledge, or we're
gonna set it by, put some paper towel on the ground,
put it on the ground if we if we're gonna
bring it in. But uh, this is funny, though, mister
bear bud on the on the toilet over here, what
I'm hovering. First of all, we don't believe you like that, Okay,
I don't believe your thighs can handle it that long.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
I don't. I don't think so. Yeah, I'm not. I'm not.
I'm looking at it right now.
Speaker 4 (36:07):
And the funniest part about this, rob G is the
food selection, meaning it's some healthy It's like a box
of fruit food.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Man, you would think you would think it's burger and fry.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
Guy. Healthy person seems like, well, I'm gonna go ahead
and put this here. Many Mansy was there at Dodgers station.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Yes, I saw her, not in this stall, not in
the stall.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
No you were not that you were not in the
stall while your food was on the safe No, what
about you?
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Could you? I couldn't do it. I could not. I
could not do it.
Speaker 6 (36:36):
I would probably leave it out.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
This is a situation where I'm alone, right like, I
don't have a friend with you.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
I would probably leave it and hope for the best. Yeah,
lion taking it.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Here's the thing is you think you're gonna have enough
time to get into the stall and like put it
on top of that area.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
No, you're gonna as you're It's different for ladies. I
gotta sit down as I'm taking my piant step. No, no,
no bad. If I'm in the stall, I'm sit down too.
Speaker 6 (37:00):
I would spill it.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
You're right, I would spill it, though I think you would.
Speaker 6 (37:03):
I would be too nervous, and I would.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
What's nervous? Form? You're telling me? Nature is calling real quick?
Speaker 4 (37:12):
Listen, Nature gonna have to hold on to you alan,
So you taking it in or you're good, but my
teeth while mom on the toilet, I'll bring food in
with me.
Speaker 6 (37:20):
It's self contained. What are you afraid of? You're that
You sound like the guy that's afraid of like a
river water, afraid of some dirt. I have to wash
my hands before I eat food.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Because you might. You know I was with you. I
was with you to the last point.
Speaker 6 (37:33):
You're listening a guy who bare cheeks the seventy.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
With you that I am.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
What if you're what if you eat much in a
sandwich and water splashes up onto your sandwar sandwich.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
Let's go you you.
Speaker 4 (37:45):
Dropped the bomb, if the toy, the water flashed through
you and up to the to the to the sandwich
the sandwich, dang, Rob, go ahead.
Speaker 5 (37:55):
I like to live dangerously. I'm trying to make it
to my seat and make a hustle back. I wanted
to race against time.
Speaker 4 (38:00):
So you're gonna leave the food at your seat, I'm
gonna run all the way to the seat, put it down,
and try to make it to the rescue before.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
It before somebody touches it or something happens.
Speaker 5 (38:08):
Yeah, but I'm probably not gonna make it, to be
honest with Jesus. And we have to leave the stadium early, and.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
I'm not putting. I just can't. The bathroom was filled
with so many jobs. I don't disagree with that.
Speaker 6 (38:17):
I don't contain.
Speaker 5 (38:18):
But don't you bring your phone with you into the
restauem when you're in the Yeah, but I'm not using it.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
Walk happens in the restaurant, Rob, Still, you were absolutely
using the phone in the restaurant.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
No, no, not only absolutely.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
All they say on the comments on YouTube is about
my phone.
Speaker 4 (38:31):
Yeah, which is why we know you're using it on
a toy rob sending fax machines from the toy You
know good and well those pictures he posts, isn't a toilet.
Just found a picture of me and a toilet in
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