March 6, 2025 • 39 mins
Rob and Kelvin explain why the NFL players have nobody to blame but themselves for things like the franchise tag and the Odd Couple Crew debate Drake’s latest social media flex in this week’s edition of Shop Talk. Plus, NBA injury insider Dr Evan Jeffries swings by to discuss the narrative that Kyrie Irving’s injury was due to playing too many minutes and how he expects Victor Wenbanyama to bounce back from his blood clots.
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He'll join us.
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We'll talk about some of these injuries that we're seeing
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scoop kelvin on what's happening and why we keep seeing
the same things happening over and over.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
But we got a story out of Detroit.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Rob g join us, jump in and it's about the
franchise tag.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
And this was on a podcast. Can you can you
spell it out? Sure?
Speaker 4 (01:59):
So I'm I'm on Ross Saint Brown, who does his
own podcast like they all do these days, everybody's got
a podcast.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Him and his brother do one.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
And on their latest episode, they were talking about all
the latest happenings around the league, and obviously if you're
a wide receiver and his brother's a wide receiver, the
big talking point is what's going on in Cincinnati with
T Higgins. You guys mentioned now we're one. He got
the franchise TAGG for the second consecutive season, and according
to Detroit Lions Pro Bowl wide receiver, he's not a
(02:26):
fan of it.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
Take a listen, did you see T Higgins got franchise
tag for a second year?
Speaker 3 (02:31):
I did that should be legal. I don't give up nobody.
He's so bro obviously so hot. I don't care what
nobody says. It is good money, but still it's just like,
what was it the average of the top five?
Speaker 5 (02:42):
Yeah, but it's average of top five and then is
there's something else in it too? So I think it's
like twenty six point four million. That's still a lot. Yeah,
it's still good, but like you still want like real
you ther get a bigger deal of more guaranteed money,
you know.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Like lock get locked in.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
That's sure, especially if you've been balling for the team
and you've been like for five to six years.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Here's my issue, couple issues. First of all, the players
are to blame.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
It just kills me every year they sit around and
talk about it ain't fair.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
I would be hot. I would be hot if that
happened to be Kelvin. The owners didn't just push this
on them.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
This is in their CBA that they agreed to. You're
to blame all of your brother and you guys all
deserve what you get because you know what you wanted,
less practice time and to be able to smoke weed.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
That's what you got. The NFL was really smart.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Roger Goodell makes forty to fifty million dollars. You know
why because he brings you guys in every single time,
and the owners laugh behind your backs. The NFL, what
do they do, Kelvin brag about how much money they're printing, right,
they're printing money. But they have the worst The players
(04:07):
have the worst collective bargaining agreement. And the history of unions,
the history of unions.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
I don't care how much they raise the salary cap.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
How many times do we see guys get cut who
have deals? Joey Bosa, all these guys, they're losing that money,
this fake contracts.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Oh, Joey Bosa.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Signed a five year, one hundred and forty million dollars.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
No, he did not. What was the guaranteed money? Joe asked,
what you signed for?
Speaker 1 (04:39):
You didn't sign for that that phony number that people
wave around and show. Oh look how much money they make.
Oh my god, let me tell you something. Juan Soto
for the New York Mets. Kelvin signed for seven hundred
and sixty five get a million.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Guess how much he's gonna get. Seven hundred is six
to five.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Every nickel, every single nickel but this whole talk about
the franchise tag.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
How in the world.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Did they ever agree to allow a team to have
you for five years?
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Right, then be able to franchise tag you right? Three times?
No less? Yeah? And then if you out play.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Your contract, you can't get out.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Of your contract. Right.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
But if you don't play well, what can they do?
Tell you to take a pay cut or they'll release you.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (05:34):
Yeah, Listen, man, this is one of the times. You know,
we and I like you, and I like to have
a good time. We like to have fun. We like
to challenge each other, disagree on things. I don't have
much to disagree with except on paper. It sounds like
good money, right if you really dig into it. Because
all right, Gatie Higgins, you're making twenty six and a
half million dollars guarantee. We just talked about money is guarantee, right,
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But the issue.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Is your t Higgins.
Speaker 6 (06:01):
I've been putting my blood, sweat and tears, my health
on the line for all these years. I want the
security of having seventy five eighty one hundred million dollars,
you know, deal with seventy five of the one hundred
guaranteed or eighty of the one hundred and twenty guaranteed
so that I can know hey family for the next three,
four or five years eighty million dollars, because that's all
that matters. As you mentioned, Rob, the guaranteed part comes
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to me and my family, and that's what players want. Yeah,
that sounds good twenty six million, But I'm still young,
and i still have things that I want to do,
and I'm still producing. What happens next year? If I
don't produce what happens the next year where I'm not
living up to what your standard if it gets hurt,
you beat me to that last part.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
What happens next year?
Speaker 6 (06:42):
If I get hurt, and then I come to you
and say, hey man, I've done everything right the last
four or five years, had a little off fear, got
banged up, But let's you're gonna take care of me, right.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Well, tee. We gotta get Jamar Chase.
Speaker 6 (06:54):
And so what we're thinking is we're gonna we're gonna
take care of here's forty guarants and you're like, dude,
forty when I know I was worth eighty ninety hundred
the year before. So you absolutely want to get that money.
And that's why players, you have to become a b
This is what I tell people in this business too,
because we shout it out.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
You just missed it.
Speaker 6 (07:14):
Go back to the last hour we talked about and
congratulated Stephen A.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Smith for his big deal. You have to be in
the business of you.
Speaker 6 (07:21):
I tell that to people in our business who have
contracts and agents and all of that and loyalty stations
and networks. These networks love you, they say you're their people,
but at the end of the day, they're gonna take
care of what's business for them. And if the math
and math and they're gonna do what they gotta do,
you have to be in the business of you.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
And I think sometimes.
Speaker 6 (07:39):
Players you here, remember what Michael Parson's Oh, I don't mind.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
I'll take a haircut.
Speaker 6 (07:43):
I just want to say, hey, you gotta take care
of you, brother, and let your agent handle that. And
even if that's what you feel, don't say that publicly.
Talk to your agent. Let him do what's best by you.
Because teams are gonna do what's best by them. And
if you look back at the origin of this stuff,
it's pretty interesting. Goes back to ninety three rob when
they were trying to get figure out free agency in
the NFL, and basically one owner was like, I ain't
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losing John Elway because that was his quarterback Pat Bowlan.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
He said no, no, no, he wouldn't sign it.
Speaker 6 (08:13):
So all these negotiations and so it ended up becoming
the John Elway rules what they called it for a
while before they officially started calling it the free uh uh,
you know, the franchise tag. So the issue is you
and I have talked about this, Rob, thirty two players
can be tagged a year. Well, you know how many
players are you know, considered players in the league overall,
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you got practice squad, all these things. Two thousand plus
active players in the Union. So what that means is
you and I mentioned it. Most of them like, ah,
y'all can go ahead, franchise and go ahead, keep that
around because it's not going to happen to me. And
so they never negotiate thinking of themselves because, ah, what
are the chances I'll be one of the thirty two?
So go ahead. And this is why you mentioned it.
(08:54):
They never have a good war chest, They never have
money in the bag. They have they don't have The
game ever stopped the game because guys need money. They
don't prepare for these things. So the last CBA back
in twenty twenty, guess what happened.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
They're right back to it.
Speaker 6 (09:10):
Franchise tag they didn't even really fight for, they agreed
to it in the twenty twenty CBA, and here we
are again. You and I have these conversations where the
only thing they got was Okay, you can't use a
franchise tag and a transition tag in the same offseason.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
That's it.
Speaker 6 (09:23):
So this is just part of the course with the
NFLPA where they don't negotiate well, they don't play well,
they don't take care of themselves well and take care
of you know, the totality of the group. And this
is how they keep getting stuck in these positions and
MLB just sitting there like y'all want to read our
playbook on how.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
We do it. Dude, Calvin, let me tell you this.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
If I if the NFL Players Association had I would go,
we want.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
What they're having? Really, what do they have? Played it? Simple?
Let us see Europe CBA with baseball.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
I'm gonna get the same exact It is the most
ridiculous thing not to have be on par as far
as health care pensions, the amount of money players get
as a pension ridiculous health care for only five years,
five years after you retire. Guys retire if you were
(10:15):
the most dangerous sport, rob right, if you were tired
at dadsport, you gotta wait for your thirty five to
get health benefits, right, and then you only have them
for five years to your forty Does that.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Make sense now? Mind you?
Speaker 6 (10:27):
You know oftentimes you got a wife, now you got
a few kids, and this and that.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
You got to figure this thing out. They don't. We
don't mention you. They don't take care of you in
that way.
Speaker 6 (10:37):
So it's it's just they need to figure out a
way to go to the emailb and say, look what
are y'all doing?
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Right?
Speaker 6 (10:43):
Help us out because we're and not to mention. How
many more years? What do you think two before they
get to eighteen games? You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Safety wants.
Speaker 6 (10:54):
We're gonna get to eighteen if you're gonna get to
my daughters or probably teenagers, my oldest being eight, probably at.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Twenty rob g. You want to add no, I'm just
gonna say it.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
It's fitting that you just brought up the games because
you opened it up. Rob talking about the big thing
they got was less prodded practice and the ability to
smoke weed, which is true, right, They got the windows
now where they're not tested for THHD.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
They can smoke it as much as they want to.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
The reason why, if you recall this last CBA got
ratified or was it now five years ago, the biggest
sticking points Number one, they raised the uptick in player revenue.
They're getting a Biggert share of the pie, which is
still less than fifty percent. They're getting forty and a
half percent. And the only reason that it even went
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up to forty eight and a half because it was
going to be forty eight was the owners reserved the
right to include a seventeenth game. So all this talk
about their player safety and worried about that, that's why.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
We can't practice with pads on because we might get hurt.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
Okay, we're gonna throw in a seventeenth car crash for
you at the end of the season without an extra
bye week. The next step, you know what's gonna come
to the next CBA is gonna be eighteen games, and
you know what else is not going to be there,
or what's still gonna be there is gonna be the
franchise tag.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Oh Rob g It's mind boggling, it really is. It's
so one sided. And I told you this before. Probably
the most damning thing that ever happened to the players
union is when they had the agreement with the NFL,
the arbitration agreement on CTE and the payment. Remember the
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NFL had to pay a pool of money, and they
agreed on the number. They went to the judge. Now,
when you have an arbitrator, right, and you both sides agree.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
And they bring it to the judge, what does he do?
The judge just rubber stamps it. Right, you both sat
down at the table and you agreed with it, right,
you agreed. You both came in here and agreed. The
judge looked.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
At the amount of the money that the NFL was
given the union for the players and said, are you kidding?
This is not enough money, This is way too low,
and threw it back and said, we worked this. Why
would a judge, judge has to look at it and
tell you it's a bad deal for the players. Everybody
in the union should have been fired the next day, everybody.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
You're right, judges, you know they're trying to be impartial.
Just hey, y'all agreed upon it.
Speaker 6 (13:18):
Whatever I'm to say, Okay, judge, all right now, I
can't let y'all doing dirty like that?
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Yeah, crazy eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox. You
want to hear from you eight seven seven nine nine
six sixty three sixty nine or NFL players to blame
for this terrible CBA and things like the franchise tag.
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Speaker 6 (16:02):
Rob and I talking about the franchise tag T Higgins
franchise again second year in a row and just the
overall thought you had. I'm a Rod Saint Brown receiver
for the Lions. He and his podcast said that was
blanked up. He was upset for T. Higgins saying it's
not fair to the players and Rob, really, we're just
talking about how until the nfl PA fights harder, until
the nfl PA decides they want to have some cohunas,
(16:25):
if you will, in certain areas, these things are just
gonna happen. These things are gonna just continue to repeat
themselves in the NFL eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox,
what are your thoughts?
Speaker 3 (16:35):
We want to hear from you. Who we got Rob g.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Ken in Stockton. You're on the odd couple of Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
What's up, Ken? Ken?
Speaker 7 (16:51):
Thank you?
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Did you punch something? We can't hear yah? We can't
hear him?
Speaker 1 (17:00):
All right, there we go, Marty and Kentucky. You're in
the odd couple of Fox sportuaitor, let's get it going.
What's up Marty?
Speaker 7 (17:05):
Didn't you hear me?
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Yeah? I got you?
Speaker 8 (17:08):
All right, I'm about to have parking lot rage.
Speaker 9 (17:10):
I'm I'm I'm not in a good situation.
Speaker 8 (17:15):
I'm in a parking spot. I'm at the regional. I'm
at a regional basketball game, and this is crazy parking. Okay,
guys on the CVA, I just got to say that
these guys got to quit letting the NFL out Martom
this year after year after years. They you know, it's
funny to me that you know, there's only one edition
(17:38):
that can win the NDP anymore, and it's the quarterback.
And sometimes I think that's because there's only one quarterback
and you're sitting in the market when you pay those quarterbacks.
Sometimes I feel like everything and the whole system is
to make the NFL money. They get them to make
agreements and they get them to play one more games
(17:58):
and they get nothing out of it. Smoking we eat
and what is right.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
And not and not practicing Marty not practicing.
Speaker 8 (18:06):
And then they get a bunch of guys. They get betterings,
they play other positions that aren't necessary field positions. They're
involved in the CBA and they make deals that help
those guys. But those guys don't make the big money
and they're clever. They they're doing it what they're doing.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
You're right, and all the guys. Look at all the guys,
the big name getting cut all the day. Hey, it's
a cap casualty.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
We can't pay you, right, you had this contract, supposedly
you had this deal and they just let you go.
I mean, if you're if you're an NFL player, man,
I just I don't know how they ignore this over
and over again. Shawan and Sacramento. Sure on, you're in
the couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
What's up? How you feeling, buddy, man?
Speaker 9 (18:48):
You know how I'm bounced back. Man, I'm in the
garage right now. Y'allmar from another mother couldn't kill me.
My brother's mind the board. But let this be a
listen to y'all. I know y'all got the rank coming through.
Don't try to be like shann in the range, trying
to win this way lost competition to gainst the eye couple.
Keep y'all butts inside, nice and warm, listening to your wives. Kelvin, Man,
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you know all we're putting them miles in running up
here in northern California and the Wayne rain fleet of
snow got everybody in the house sick.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Man, are you saying, yeah, that's right, you said that. Man.
I hope you guys WI feel a little bit better. Brother.
Speaker 9 (19:20):
Oh we're doing good man. My daughter birthday, and tomorrow
we're gonna hit a mint of ray, spend a little
time in the barrier. So we're gonna keep it liddy
out there with y'all still listening to y'all on Fox
down there, but real quick on this man, look and
the words on man Kelvin Kirk flood blows around his grave, us.
Speaker 8 (19:35):
A shop rowing around in.
Speaker 9 (19:36):
His great look. NFL players, if y'all don't get together,
truly unionize and take a couple of bullets for the
betterment of your organization. Know what y'all doing. Look at
what the MLB players had to do. If you got
to sit out a season, if you got to walk
out on the World Series, you do it because these
two or three paychecks this year with the salary can
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make sure that the rest of your f only has
generational wealth as.
Speaker 8 (20:01):
Long as you all the plan.
Speaker 9 (20:03):
Get my man Rob Parker inside the room with the
negotiator and he's gonna get them contracts signed word to
Stephen A. Smith And let me leave you all on
this man real quick. We see the effect that the
unions had on the NBA, not the MLB. Where do
y'all draw the line between player empowerment and keeping the
organization functional without guys sitting out and all of a
(20:24):
sudden taking the easy way out.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Yeah, no, that that's an issue. There's no doubt about that.
Speaker 6 (20:29):
A whole the whole conversation here, by the way, Yeah,
he said you would go in there, and do know
you would?
Speaker 3 (20:36):
You would be Rob g wouldn't Rob Parker going there
and be on the team side?
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Rob?
Speaker 3 (20:40):
We don't even know who you are no more? The
last few days, are you kidding?
Speaker 7 (20:43):
Rob?
Speaker 3 (20:43):
J you are Joe?
Speaker 6 (20:45):
The last few days that man has been mad at
everybody getting paid.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
Well, you know, fun fact, Calvin, before you got to
the odd couple, the one time I legitimately thought that
Chris Bustat and Rob Parker we're going to fight and
this was gonna be in the relationship. Alice can attest
to this c B called Rob a company man that
I've never seen Rob get more set off or triggered
in my life.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Do you remember that I remember that I thought Chris
was about to die.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
I was so so mad, Hairy dad was running down
his face.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
He was sweating.
Speaker 6 (21:20):
Call that man, Rudy Giuliani.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
He I was.
Speaker 6 (21:27):
I was sick to be called a company man. We
know what the best part about that is, Robbie this.
I know officially we're bonding. We're almost to the point
where you might want to feed me pancakes, but not
quite because that was your way of telling me, all right,
hold on tread lightly, don't call him a company.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
That was your way of saying, no.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Company man, real quick, Andre in Massachusetts, you're on the
odd couple.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Drake, how you doing?
Speaker 10 (21:53):
Thanks for taking a call. In terms of the NFL
and their union, you know, it's like a touch push,
all right, Roger, get the Eagles. You know, they just
keep getting trucks stick every single time around. And there's
structural things. Looking at the revenue.
Speaker 11 (22:06):
Split, looking at the stadium credits, looking at the lack
of fully guaranteed contracts, looking at lifetime health insurance for
their players, and you hear the former players talk about it.
These are the things where.
Speaker 10 (22:16):
I think they can get unity across the board to
kind of put their foot down.
Speaker 11 (22:20):
I get the fact that their teams are large you
got fifty to sixty players the NFL.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
It doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
They make so much money though, Dre. You know that's
always the cop out. And here's the other thing too.
It's very simple. You get to the eve of the
Super Bowl and you say, if we don't get what
we're looking for, we're not playing today. Do you think
that they would? I'm Calvin, what do you think is
gonna happen if the players said, just like baseball players,
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no world serious?
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Right right?
Speaker 1 (22:50):
If you threaten the super Bowl, I'm not talking about
after the fact that Saturday before the super Bowl is
going to be played. If we don't get some of
the things we're looking for in a new deal, we're
not playing the super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
I guarantee you man that owners would come to the
table because too much money.
Speaker 6 (23:08):
You're talking about one hundred and what is it, fifty
eighty million people watch it, investors.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
I mean they have to give it back all the
money money.
Speaker 6 (23:16):
I hey, hey, I signed up four or five eight
million dollars for my thirty seconds.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
What you mean ain't not? Yeah? Absolutely, But again it's
what happens.
Speaker 6 (23:24):
We have so many players and on it, you know,
two thousand plus, so many guys making no real money
that they're like, I can't do that, man, I'm all right,
just give them what they want because there's only fifty of.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Y'all making real, real, real money.
Speaker 6 (23:36):
Maybe so the rest of us have got a scrap
and they're just not gonna do it.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
But it's exact opposite in reality, is if you bend
together and demand, you'll have better for the for the
majority that's not making the big money.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
It's exact opposite. You're right, that's the only way. That's
the only way.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
You're not going to be cut every time you get
hurt or something goes wrong, because you'll have to be guaranteed.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
That's all guaranteed money. That's all.
Speaker 6 (24:02):
Yeah, yep, Well we'll see. They don't seem like it's
ever going to happen.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
But all right.
Speaker 6 (24:06):
We got doctor Evan Jeffries on the way, doctor of
Physical Therapy, NBA Inside Injury Insider, help us break down
some of the things going around in the NBA. Before
we get to that, we gotta find out what's trending
with Manzi Bilanos.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
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Speaker 6 (24:29):
Join now by doctor Evan Jeffries, doctor of physical therapy,
NBA Injury Insider, Doctor Evans, thank you for being here.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
We appreciate you.
Speaker 7 (24:37):
Hey, fellas, how you doing, Thanks for having me back.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
We are doing good man. We can start right now
with Kyrie Irvin.
Speaker 6 (24:45):
I mean there's some questions, some people saying he was
playing the most minutes he's played in quite some time,
and that they were over using him. Others say it
was just a flukey crazy injury tearing that left Aco.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
What'd you see and what are your thoughts?
Speaker 7 (24:58):
Yeah, so I think the narrative right now that he
was playing too many minutes, especially after the big trade
and Luca and Ad and after Ad went down. But
I don't think we can have that same narrative because
there's a period of time where you guys know, high
stand on load management and that was actually causing more
injuries the load management. So I don't think we can
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necessarily just dial down that the fact he was playing.
You know, over the last six weeks, he's played about
thirty thirty eight point seven minutes per game, last five
straight games he's played forty minutes before that. But do
you guys remember the nineties and the eighties right, Oh yeah,
you guys played more than forty minutes a game every
single game, right, So I don't think we can just
(25:39):
put it all on that. For the ACL, I think
more injuries, like soft tissue injuries. You see that more
when the load, when they're playing so many minutes and
getting a little bit of fatigue. But I wouldn't blame
that on for the AHL.
Speaker 6 (25:52):
Yeah, there's John Stock to play like sixteen seasons in
a row, not missing the game.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
I think they'll be our right playing more.
Speaker 8 (26:01):
For sure, for sure.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Yeah, I also wonder and Doc maybe, like at least
I think it's with some of these athletes. In the
old days, you used to take an off season, let
your body heal, you know, like.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Like take some time off. And now these athletes they
got their own personal trainers.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Right after the season, you see them working out and
the videos they want to show everybody all the work
they're putting in. Guys used to get a little paunch.
Guys used to put on a ten chubby pounds and
then you would work it off in training camp and
get back into shape, and I just wonder if it's
too much, like too much working out too much, can
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that be hurtful or harmful to a player?
Speaker 7 (26:52):
Yeah, I like that point, Rob. I think right now
we got too many smart people in the room, right,
so much technology, there's so much data, and these players
are in the off season, they're they're having a serious
training program, They're not saying enough time, they're not doing
any cross training, you know, especially as these kids are
(27:13):
growing up in the AAU system and in college, they're
not doing any other sports. So I think that's just
leading to just some of the stuff that Yeah, like
back in the day, those guys would just going to
take a break for two months, right, and then come
back to build their body, let their body rest, and
then go pick up a basketball and get the work.
Speaker 9 (27:31):
Right.
Speaker 7 (27:32):
So, I do think that we are probably doing too much.
I think a lot of these people are just trying
to get the best knowledge from people, which is great,
and at the same time, everybody has different trainers, doctors.
There's like so many people in the puzzle there that
I think maybe there's some complaint with certain things that
(27:52):
they're doing.
Speaker 6 (27:53):
You know, doctor Jefferies, our guest doctor, having Jefferies, doctor
physical therapy, NBA injury insiders just kind of stand on
this on the subject. I used to work with Michael Thompson,
former NBA player Clay Thompson, and he used to always
say that he would say he would take up tennis,
he would swim, he would do all the other things.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
And kind of get back to it. Let me all.
Speaker 6 (28:12):
And another thing we talk about too is specializing. Like
kids they don't play these other sports growing up. They
start pitching at five, and they pitched like crazy, and
they start getting Tommy John surgery at sixteen electively, parents
like you play hit anyway, Let's cut him up now,
Like what are you making up this crazy obsession especially
with parents of like making their kids specialize and be
(28:33):
locked into things.
Speaker 7 (28:34):
Yeah, yeah, don't get me started on baseball, because that's
a whole Another animal is part of the youth game.
I had We had a client and we were talking
about a picture that he had and the guy went
in to check his elbow. He did not have a
porn ucl, but he wanted to do a permititive surgery
because there's already stretched out a little bit crazy.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
That's crazy, and the kid.
Speaker 7 (28:59):
Wants to have surgery because he's like, WHOA, everybody has
Tommy Johns eventually, So I need to get back and
I'll just do it right now if I get out
of the way. Now that right there is just backwards, right,
So you never want to do some permittive surgery like that.
But I just think that kids should be kids and
they should play multiple sports. I mean, I have two kids,
(29:20):
and I got them playing multiple sports throughout the year
because I don't want them just specializing in one right now, right,
So I think you have to have that off season
and that cross training during the off season.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
But so many of the greatest athletes or a multi sport
play they play yeah right, they all played two or
three sports all of yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (29:41):
There was some stat about the NFL and first round
Josh spicks ninety six percent of those players play multi
sports in high school. And that's just the fact that
you if you're an athlete, you're going to be good
at most sports, right, and that gives your body a
break from that that you concentrate on during the offseason.
(30:02):
That's what you need to do, and what you're doing
in that sport usually trans translates well to your own sport.
Speaker 6 (30:11):
You know, I think about Dion Sanders, Randy Moss was
like all world back in uh Virginia.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
I mean, it's just it's West Virginia. It's just crazy.
Speaker 6 (30:20):
How many of these guys are freaks and nature, Dion
Send and Bo Jackson, the list goes on and on.
So any when you look at some of the injuries
again going on, let's go to what happened would Winby again,
this is kind of a freak thing. This wasn't you know,
your typical a cl or messed up elbow or something.
We're talking blood clouds. What does this just kind of
(30:40):
enlighten us a little bit more? What does this mean?
And what does this look like as far as recovery?
And how do you are you fearful? As as an organization?
Speaker 7 (30:46):
The Spurs, Yeah, it's it's tough because that's such a
rare type of thing to happen. And he's pretty young
as well. I think the Spurs caught it pretty early.
So the main thing is, don't have to be in
bloods for at least three months. Make sure the clot
is gone. You know, players like Brandon Ingram all Right
(31:07):
has had this and then came back the next season,
so I think, and I think uh Aman Thompson had
as well and then was back the next season. So
I think they just have to let him rest right,
make sure the clod is gone. But I don't think
it's going to be a detriment to the rest of
his career, all.
Speaker 6 (31:27):
Right, Well, hope with not, because he obviously a great player,
met so much of that franchise, so much to the league,
and you hate to.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
See what do you do with what do you do it?
Is it just blood thinners?
Speaker 1 (31:37):
How do you how do you how do you correct that?
Speaker 7 (31:40):
So most of the time it's just blood sinters. The
main thing is what you're trying to prevent is that
clot from going anywhere, right, So especially being in the arm,
it's close to going to the heart, to the lungs,
to the brain, right. So that's why immediately you have
to go on blood center and then you just let
that clouds all. Every once in a while if it's
(32:02):
something very severe. I think Brandon Ingram actually had to
have the throm thrombosis removed, so that can happen if
you hear that maybe in a month or something that
he had surgery to remove it. That could be a possibility,
but most of the time it's just bloodpinters and what and.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
What makes the blood clot, what makes a blood clot
for people.
Speaker 7 (32:20):
Have told you typically that's why it's so rare from
his standpoint, particularly it's after like surgery and if you
are on bed rest or you're just not moving as much,
the blood will just kind of pull into an area
and start to coagulate, which is his clot. Okay, And
then that's typically the way it happens. There's a lot
(32:41):
of signs for a therapist when they're seeing it seeing
a client rather with the surgery, if there's if something
like that is going on. And Wendy's case, he was
just having some fatigue and shoulder pain, right, So that
wasn't that's kind of out of the ordinary normally.
Speaker 6 (32:55):
Hey, doctor Evan Jefferies, thank you for joining us.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
We appreciate you shedding some light on size away around
the league. Man. Thank you so much.
Speaker 7 (33:02):
Thank you guys for having me.
Speaker 6 (33:03):
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Speaker 3 (33:11):
All right, Rob Giegus got some up.
Speaker 6 (33:13):
He said he's got a good shop talk for us, Rob,
So let's see what Rob g has for shop Talk.
Interested to see have a little fun with that? It
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Speaker 3 (33:36):
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Speaker 6 (33:38):
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Speaker 3 (33:57):
Rob, it is the way tied buying should be. What
why do I know this one? I can't. I can't.
Don't give me a clue. You remember this one? Rob?
This is La Law. Yes, you know I remember that right? Well?
Speaker 6 (34:12):
I mean why I knew I've remembered it or I
was familiar because it was the first time in my
life I was told I looked like somebody and a
woman stopped my woman stopped my mother and said, ma'am,
as if it could be anybody else. But she goes,
your son looks like the black guy on LA Law.
And my mother goes, Blair under what and she goes yes.
(34:34):
And I've been hearing that for every day, every day
when every day? But you know, for all these years since,
did I ever show you a picture? When I finally met him,
we did a little funny little thing with it. It
was it was hilarious, and you see that he was
kind of like, all right, I ca't front I.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Do see it a little bit. Did he really? Wow,
I'll send it to you. I'm gonna say he. I
think him and Peggy Lipton kissed on television. They did
something that might have been the first time I don't
white kissed a white woman. Wait, why are you sitting that?
Oh black man kissed the white No us? Wait was
it really? James R. Jones didn't do that. Sidney Potier
(35:11):
didn't do that. No, God, a TV show, not a
movie TV show. All right, I'm gonna have to get
the Google sphere. You might be right there. You know
you're trivius.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Well, because it's it's it's Captain Kirk and lieutenant.
Speaker 6 (35:24):
I know that one white man, black woman, right, I
know that one. Right, all right, let's get to it.
It's topic shop talk.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Ain't nobody, ain't still being a bump shop?
Speaker 2 (35:37):
You know that?
Speaker 3 (35:37):
Ain't nobody you were talking about?
Speaker 9 (35:39):
Whoever?
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Whatever, whatever you want to in a boss wit shop.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
It's gonna be a short one. It is shop talking segment.
We talk about something happened outside of the world of sports.
This week's topic comes to us from the world of music.
I don't know if you guys saw this. There's video
floating around the internets on Wednesday that shows Drake arguably
the most successfu arguably the most successful rap part is
in the last decade plus alone by himself because he
(36:05):
rented out a nightclub so he could sit quietly listening
to Sabrina Carpenter and gambling on his laptop. Guys, here's
the question. Drake buying out the club to be by himself?
Is that a flex or? Is that just sad?
Speaker 6 (36:21):
Okay, wait a minute, I'm looking at it right now, Rob,
because he told me about this earlier.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
You didn't tell me him.
Speaker 6 (36:27):
Now everything I said to you, Robbed you, I take back,
Rob Parker. I'm looking at the video. See, I thought
he was just mining owns business, like just focusing.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
On his gambling.
Speaker 6 (36:38):
And like, this is robb g Everything I told you,
I take back now that I saw the video. He's
in there with the biggest mink coat, white mink coat
you've ever seen.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
Rob Parker with.
Speaker 6 (36:48):
A big bottle of shamp of wine and champagne. Like me, Now,
this is extra Robbgy. See I was I thought maybe
he was mine and owned business, you know, just wanted
to be isolated. I'm rich, I'm a celebrity. I don't
want to be around everybody. Sometimes this is so extra.
This is him doing this on purpose. He's he's got confede,
he's got confetti coming down by himself in a white
(37:10):
mink coat while he's gambling.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
This has gone too far. I blame Kendrick Lamar. It's
just a flex. He has money to burn. I mean,
that's all it is.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
And then, of course, because if it really was about him,
then you don't need to have the pictures and show
everybody that you've done it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
It's just a flex. Let me show you what I did.
Let me show what kind of loute I have. Look
at my mint coat all that other stuff. If I
had some pain, I would throw it on it.
Speaker 6 (37:36):
But that's why. Yeah, it'd be the day I joined Peter. Right, Yeah,
I thought Peter is about it. I do like with Peter,
bread is good with little hummus. Yeah, I thought I
thought it was maybe him just kind of chilling with
a couple homies, and this is totally like him just
trying to remind people look at me and to be
honest with you, just kind of tone deaf, like this
is kind of the stuff that people who even like
(37:58):
Drake who they're supportive, but they're like, you're making it
hard because this is tone that people are struggling right now.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
The economy's doing this and you're.
Speaker 6 (38:04):
In here right noown clubs by yourself, confetti and again
what you got.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
I mean, it's ridiculous. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 12 (38:12):
It is a flex and also sad. I feel like
it's all at the same time, like why you're doing
this to show off? I agree with Rob absolutely you're
just doing it to show off and be a flex,
But at the same time, it is tone deaf and
it is kind of sad, like this is you're not
this doesn't make you look cool, Drake.
Speaker 6 (38:30):
It's just it's kind of weird because again, it wasn't
just when I saw this is him like deliberately doing this.
But honestly, man, this is listen. We've all been there.
You got smacked up a little bit. Maybe I roughed
up in a fighting his case in a big rat
be publicly worldwide.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
And I think he's just struggling. I mean, it's sincerely.
Speaker 6 (38:48):
I think he's struggling, trying to find his way, find
his identity again and kind of you know, I guess
come bounce back from that from the whole Cantrick thing.
I really mean that I think he's struggling with that.
I could be wrong, but that's what it looks like.
Because this makes none of the sense.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
The streets are saying he's in the club with all
his day ones. That's what they're saying.
Speaker 6 (39:09):
THEO I feel like you were in the streets. I
feel like you're in the streets and this, oh man
wide receivers all that money is about to stop.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
We'll tell you why.
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(01:27):
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Speaker 3 (01:31):
He'll join us.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
We'll talk about some of these injuries that we're seeing
in the NBA and he'll, you know, give us the
scoop kelvin on what's happening and why we keep seeing
the same things happening over and over.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
But we got a story out of Detroit.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Rob g join us, jump in and it's about the
franchise tag.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
And this was on a podcast. Can you can you
spell it out? Sure?
Speaker 4 (01:59):
So I'm I'm on Ross Saint Brown, who does his
own podcast like they all do these days, everybody's got
a podcast.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Him and his brother do one.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
And on their latest episode, they were talking about all
the latest happenings around the league, and obviously if you're
a wide receiver and his brother's a wide receiver, the
big talking point is what's going on in Cincinnati with
T Higgins. You guys mentioned now we're one. He got
the franchise TAGG for the second consecutive season, and according
to Detroit Lions Pro Bowl wide receiver, he's not a
(02:26):
fan of it.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
Take a listen, did you see T Higgins got franchise
tag for a second year?
Speaker 3 (02:31):
I did that should be legal. I don't give up nobody.
He's so bro obviously so hot. I don't care what
nobody says. It is good money, but still it's just like,
what was it the average of the top five?
Speaker 5 (02:42):
Yeah, but it's average of top five and then is
there's something else in it too? So I think it's
like twenty six point four million. That's still a lot. Yeah,
it's still good, but like you still want like real
you ther get a bigger deal of more guaranteed money,
you know.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Like lock get locked in.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
That's sure, especially if you've been balling for the team
and you've been like for five to six years.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Here's my issue, couple issues. First of all, the players
are to blame.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
It just kills me every year they sit around and
talk about it ain't fair.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
I would be hot. I would be hot if that
happened to be Kelvin. The owners didn't just push this
on them.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
This is in their CBA that they agreed to. You're
to blame all of your brother and you guys all
deserve what you get because you know what you wanted,
less practice time and to be able to smoke weed.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
That's what you got. The NFL was really smart.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Roger Goodell makes forty to fifty million dollars. You know
why because he brings you guys in every single time,
and the owners laugh behind your backs. The NFL, what
do they do, Kelvin brag about how much money they're printing, right,
they're printing money. But they have the worst The players
(04:07):
have the worst collective bargaining agreement. And the history of unions,
the history of unions.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
I don't care how much they raise the salary cap.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
How many times do we see guys get cut who
have deals? Joey Bosa, all these guys, they're losing that money,
this fake contracts.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Oh, Joey Bosa.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Signed a five year, one hundred and forty million dollars.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
No, he did not. What was the guaranteed money? Joe asked,
what you signed for?
Speaker 1 (04:39):
You didn't sign for that that phony number that people
wave around and show. Oh look how much money they make.
Oh my god, let me tell you something. Juan Soto
for the New York Mets. Kelvin signed for seven hundred
and sixty five get a million.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Guess how much he's gonna get. Seven hundred is six
to five.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Every nickel, every single nickel but this whole talk about
the franchise tag.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
How in the world.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Did they ever agree to allow a team to have
you for five years?
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Right, then be able to franchise tag you right? Three times?
No less? Yeah? And then if you out play.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Your contract, you can't get out.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Of your contract. Right.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
But if you don't play well, what can they do?
Tell you to take a pay cut or they'll release you.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (05:34):
Yeah, Listen, man, this is one of the times. You know,
we and I like you, and I like to have
a good time. We like to have fun. We like
to challenge each other, disagree on things. I don't have
much to disagree with except on paper. It sounds like
good money, right if you really dig into it. Because
all right, Gatie Higgins, you're making twenty six and a
half million dollars guarantee. We just talked about money is guarantee, right,
(05:58):
But the issue.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Is your t Higgins.
Speaker 6 (06:01):
I've been putting my blood, sweat and tears, my health
on the line for all these years. I want the
security of having seventy five eighty one hundred million dollars,
you know, deal with seventy five of the one hundred
guaranteed or eighty of the one hundred and twenty guaranteed
so that I can know hey family for the next three,
four or five years eighty million dollars, because that's all
that matters. As you mentioned, Rob, the guaranteed part comes
(06:24):
to me and my family, and that's what players want. Yeah,
that sounds good twenty six million, But I'm still young,
and i still have things that I want to do,
and I'm still producing. What happens next year? If I
don't produce what happens the next year where I'm not
living up to what your standard if it gets hurt,
you beat me to that last part.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
What happens next year?
Speaker 6 (06:42):
If I get hurt, and then I come to you
and say, hey man, I've done everything right the last
four or five years, had a little off fear, got
banged up, But let's you're gonna take care of me, right.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Well, tee. We gotta get Jamar Chase.
Speaker 6 (06:54):
And so what we're thinking is we're gonna we're gonna
take care of here's forty guarants and you're like, dude,
forty when I know I was worth eighty ninety hundred
the year before. So you absolutely want to get that money.
And that's why players, you have to become a b
This is what I tell people in this business too,
because we shout it out.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
You just missed it.
Speaker 6 (07:14):
Go back to the last hour we talked about and
congratulated Stephen A.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Smith for his big deal. You have to be in
the business of you.
Speaker 6 (07:21):
I tell that to people in our business who have
contracts and agents and all of that and loyalty stations
and networks. These networks love you, they say you're their people,
but at the end of the day, they're gonna take
care of what's business for them. And if the math
and math and they're gonna do what they gotta do,
you have to be in the business of you.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
And I think sometimes.
Speaker 6 (07:39):
Players you here, remember what Michael Parson's Oh, I don't mind.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
I'll take a haircut.
Speaker 6 (07:43):
I just want to say, hey, you gotta take care
of you, brother, and let your agent handle that. And
even if that's what you feel, don't say that publicly.
Talk to your agent. Let him do what's best by you.
Because teams are gonna do what's best by them. And
if you look back at the origin of this stuff,
it's pretty interesting. Goes back to ninety three rob when
they were trying to get figure out free agency in
the NFL, and basically one owner was like, I ain't
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losing John Elway because that was his quarterback Pat Bowlan.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
He said no, no, no, he wouldn't sign it.
Speaker 6 (08:13):
So all these negotiations and so it ended up becoming
the John Elway rules what they called it for a
while before they officially started calling it the free uh uh,
you know, the franchise tag. So the issue is you
and I have talked about this, Rob, thirty two players
can be tagged a year. Well, you know how many
players are you know, considered players in the league overall,
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you got practice squad, all these things. Two thousand plus
active players in the Union. So what that means is
you and I mentioned it. Most of them like, ah,
y'all can go ahead, franchise and go ahead, keep that
around because it's not going to happen to me. And
so they never negotiate thinking of themselves because, ah, what
are the chances I'll be one of the thirty two?
So go ahead. And this is why you mentioned it.
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They never have a good war chest, They never have
money in the bag. They have they don't have The
game ever stopped the game because guys need money. They
don't prepare for these things. So the last CBA back
in twenty twenty, guess what happened.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
They're right back to it.
Speaker 6 (09:10):
Franchise tag they didn't even really fight for, they agreed
to it in the twenty twenty CBA, and here we
are again. You and I have these conversations where the
only thing they got was Okay, you can't use a
franchise tag and a transition tag in the same offseason.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
That's it.
Speaker 6 (09:23):
So this is just part of the course with the
NFLPA where they don't negotiate well, they don't play well,
they don't take care of themselves well and take care
of you know, the totality of the group. And this
is how they keep getting stuck in these positions and
MLB just sitting there like y'all want to read our
playbook on how.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
We do it. Dude, Calvin, let me tell you this.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
If I if the NFL Players Association had I would go,
we want.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
What they're having? Really, what do they have? Played it? Simple?
Let us see Europe CBA with baseball.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
I'm gonna get the same exact It is the most
ridiculous thing not to have be on par as far
as health care pensions, the amount of money players get
as a pension ridiculous health care for only five years,
five years after you retire. Guys retire if you were
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the most dangerous sport, rob right, if you were tired
at dadsport, you gotta wait for your thirty five to
get health benefits, right, and then you only have them
for five years to your forty Does that.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Make sense now? Mind you?
Speaker 6 (10:27):
You know oftentimes you got a wife, now you got
a few kids, and this and that.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
You got to figure this thing out. They don't. We
don't mention you. They don't take care of you in
that way.
Speaker 6 (10:37):
So it's it's just they need to figure out a
way to go to the emailb and say, look what
are y'all doing?
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Right?
Speaker 6 (10:43):
Help us out because we're and not to mention. How
many more years? What do you think two before they
get to eighteen games? You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Safety wants.
Speaker 6 (10:54):
We're gonna get to eighteen if you're gonna get to
my daughters or probably teenagers, my oldest being eight, probably at.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Twenty rob g. You want to add no, I'm just
gonna say it.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
It's fitting that you just brought up the games because
you opened it up. Rob talking about the big thing
they got was less prodded practice and the ability to
smoke weed, which is true, right, They got the windows
now where they're not tested for THHD.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
They can smoke it as much as they want to.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
The reason why, if you recall this last CBA got
ratified or was it now five years ago, the biggest
sticking points Number one, they raised the uptick in player revenue.
They're getting a Biggert share of the pie, which is
still less than fifty percent. They're getting forty and a
half percent. And the only reason that it even went
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up to forty eight and a half because it was
going to be forty eight was the owners reserved the
right to include a seventeenth game. So all this talk
about their player safety and worried about that, that's why.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
We can't practice with pads on because we might get hurt.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
Okay, we're gonna throw in a seventeenth car crash for
you at the end of the season without an extra
bye week. The next step, you know what's gonna come
to the next CBA is gonna be eighteen games, and
you know what else is not going to be there,
or what's still gonna be there is gonna be the
franchise tag.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Oh Rob g It's mind boggling, it really is. It's
so one sided. And I told you this before. Probably
the most damning thing that ever happened to the players
union is when they had the agreement with the NFL,
the arbitration agreement on CTE and the payment. Remember the
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NFL had to pay a pool of money, and they
agreed on the number. They went to the judge. Now,
when you have an arbitrator, right, and you both sides agree.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
And they bring it to the judge, what does he do?
The judge just rubber stamps it. Right, you both sat
down at the table and you agreed with it, right,
you agreed. You both came in here and agreed. The
judge looked.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
At the amount of the money that the NFL was
given the union for the players and said, are you kidding?
This is not enough money, This is way too low,
and threw it back and said, we worked this. Why
would a judge, judge has to look at it and
tell you it's a bad deal for the players. Everybody
in the union should have been fired the next day, everybody.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
You're right, judges, you know they're trying to be impartial.
Just hey, y'all agreed upon it.
Speaker 6 (13:18):
Whatever I'm to say, Okay, judge, all right now, I
can't let y'all doing dirty like that?
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Yeah, crazy eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox. You
want to hear from you eight seven seven nine nine
six sixty three sixty nine or NFL players to blame
for this terrible CBA and things like the franchise tag.
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Speaker 6 (16:02):
Rob and I talking about the franchise tag T Higgins
franchise again second year in a row and just the
overall thought you had. I'm a Rod Saint Brown receiver
for the Lions. He and his podcast said that was
blanked up. He was upset for T. Higgins saying it's
not fair to the players and Rob, really, we're just
talking about how until the nfl PA fights harder, until
the nfl PA decides they want to have some cohunas,
(16:25):
if you will, in certain areas, these things are just
gonna happen. These things are gonna just continue to repeat
themselves in the NFL eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox,
what are your thoughts?
Speaker 3 (16:35):
We want to hear from you. Who we got Rob g.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Ken in Stockton. You're on the odd couple of Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
What's up, Ken? Ken?
Speaker 7 (16:51):
Thank you?
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Did you punch something? We can't hear yah? We can't
hear him?
Speaker 1 (17:00):
All right, there we go, Marty and Kentucky. You're in
the odd couple of Fox sportuaitor, let's get it going.
What's up Marty?
Speaker 7 (17:05):
Didn't you hear me?
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Yeah? I got you?
Speaker 8 (17:08):
All right, I'm about to have parking lot rage.
Speaker 9 (17:10):
I'm I'm I'm not in a good situation.
Speaker 8 (17:15):
I'm in a parking spot. I'm at the regional. I'm
at a regional basketball game, and this is crazy parking. Okay,
guys on the CVA, I just got to say that
these guys got to quit letting the NFL out Martom
this year after year after years. They you know, it's
funny to me that you know, there's only one edition
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that can win the NDP anymore, and it's the quarterback.
And sometimes I think that's because there's only one quarterback
and you're sitting in the market when you pay those quarterbacks.
Sometimes I feel like everything and the whole system is
to make the NFL money. They get them to make
agreements and they get them to play one more games
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and they get nothing out of it. Smoking we eat
and what is right.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
And not and not practicing Marty not practicing.
Speaker 8 (18:06):
And then they get a bunch of guys. They get betterings,
they play other positions that aren't necessary field positions. They're
involved in the CBA and they make deals that help
those guys. But those guys don't make the big money
and they're clever. They they're doing it what they're doing.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
You're right, and all the guys. Look at all the guys,
the big name getting cut all the day. Hey, it's
a cap casualty.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
We can't pay you, right, you had this contract, supposedly
you had this deal and they just let you go.
I mean, if you're if you're an NFL player, man,
I just I don't know how they ignore this over
and over again. Shawan and Sacramento. Sure on, you're in
the couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
What's up? How you feeling, buddy, man?
Speaker 9 (18:48):
You know how I'm bounced back. Man, I'm in the
garage right now. Y'allmar from another mother couldn't kill me.
My brother's mind the board. But let this be a
listen to y'all. I know y'all got the rank coming through.
Don't try to be like shann in the range, trying
to win this way lost competition to gainst the eye couple.
Keep y'all butts inside, nice and warm, listening to your wives. Kelvin, Man,
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you know all we're putting them miles in running up
here in northern California and the Wayne rain fleet of
snow got everybody in the house sick.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Man, are you saying, yeah, that's right, you said that. Man.
I hope you guys WI feel a little bit better. Brother.
Speaker 9 (19:20):
Oh we're doing good man. My daughter birthday, and tomorrow
we're gonna hit a mint of ray, spend a little
time in the barrier. So we're gonna keep it liddy
out there with y'all still listening to y'all on Fox
down there, but real quick on this man, look and
the words on man Kelvin Kirk flood blows around his grave, us.
Speaker 8 (19:35):
A shop rowing around in.
Speaker 9 (19:36):
His great look. NFL players, if y'all don't get together,
truly unionize and take a couple of bullets for the
betterment of your organization. Know what y'all doing. Look at
what the MLB players had to do. If you got
to sit out a season, if you got to walk
out on the World Series, you do it because these
two or three paychecks this year with the salary can
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make sure that the rest of your f only has
generational wealth as.
Speaker 8 (20:01):
Long as you all the plan.
Speaker 9 (20:03):
Get my man Rob Parker inside the room with the
negotiator and he's gonna get them contracts signed word to
Stephen A. Smith And let me leave you all on
this man real quick. We see the effect that the
unions had on the NBA, not the MLB. Where do
y'all draw the line between player empowerment and keeping the
organization functional without guys sitting out and all of a
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sudden taking the easy way out.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Yeah, no, that that's an issue. There's no doubt about that.
Speaker 6 (20:29):
A whole the whole conversation here, by the way, Yeah,
he said you would go in there, and do know
you would?
Speaker 3 (20:36):
You would be Rob g wouldn't Rob Parker going there
and be on the team side?
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Rob?
Speaker 3 (20:40):
We don't even know who you are no more? The
last few days, are you kidding?
Speaker 7 (20:43):
Rob?
Speaker 3 (20:43):
J you are Joe?
Speaker 6 (20:45):
The last few days that man has been mad at
everybody getting paid.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
Well, you know, fun fact, Calvin, before you got to
the odd couple, the one time I legitimately thought that
Chris Bustat and Rob Parker we're going to fight and
this was gonna be in the relationship. Alice can attest
to this c B called Rob a company man that
I've never seen Rob get more set off or triggered
in my life.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Do you remember that I remember that I thought Chris
was about to die.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
I was so so mad, Hairy dad was running down
his face.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
He was sweating.
Speaker 6 (21:20):
Call that man, Rudy Giuliani.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
He I was.
Speaker 6 (21:27):
I was sick to be called a company man. We
know what the best part about that is, Robbie this.
I know officially we're bonding. We're almost to the point
where you might want to feed me pancakes, but not
quite because that was your way of telling me, all right,
hold on tread lightly, don't call him a company.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
That was your way of saying, no.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Company man, real quick, Andre in Massachusetts, you're on the
odd couple.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Drake, how you doing?
Speaker 10 (21:53):
Thanks for taking a call. In terms of the NFL
and their union, you know, it's like a touch push,
all right, Roger, get the Eagles. You know, they just
keep getting trucks stick every single time around. And there's
structural things. Looking at the revenue.
Speaker 11 (22:06):
Split, looking at the stadium credits, looking at the lack
of fully guaranteed contracts, looking at lifetime health insurance for
their players, and you hear the former players talk about it.
These are the things where.
Speaker 10 (22:16):
I think they can get unity across the board to
kind of put their foot down.
Speaker 11 (22:20):
I get the fact that their teams are large you
got fifty to sixty players the NFL.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
It doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
They make so much money though, Dre. You know that's
always the cop out. And here's the other thing too.
It's very simple. You get to the eve of the
Super Bowl and you say, if we don't get what
we're looking for, we're not playing today. Do you think
that they would? I'm Calvin, what do you think is
gonna happen if the players said, just like baseball players,
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no world serious?
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Right right?
Speaker 1 (22:50):
If you threaten the super Bowl, I'm not talking about
after the fact that Saturday before the super Bowl is
going to be played. If we don't get some of
the things we're looking for in a new deal, we're
not playing the super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
I guarantee you man that owners would come to the
table because too much money.
Speaker 6 (23:08):
You're talking about one hundred and what is it, fifty
eighty million people watch it, investors.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
I mean they have to give it back all the
money money.
Speaker 6 (23:16):
I hey, hey, I signed up four or five eight
million dollars for my thirty seconds.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
What you mean ain't not? Yeah? Absolutely, But again it's
what happens.
Speaker 6 (23:24):
We have so many players and on it, you know,
two thousand plus, so many guys making no real money
that they're like, I can't do that, man, I'm all right,
just give them what they want because there's only fifty of.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Y'all making real, real, real money.
Speaker 6 (23:36):
Maybe so the rest of us have got a scrap
and they're just not gonna do it.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
But it's exact opposite in reality, is if you bend
together and demand, you'll have better for the for the
majority that's not making the big money.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
It's exact opposite. You're right, that's the only way. That's
the only way.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
You're not going to be cut every time you get
hurt or something goes wrong, because you'll have to be guaranteed.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
That's all guaranteed money. That's all.
Speaker 6 (24:02):
Yeah, yep, Well we'll see. They don't seem like it's
ever going to happen.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
But all right.
Speaker 6 (24:06):
We got doctor Evan Jeffries on the way, doctor of
Physical Therapy, NBA Inside Injury Insider, help us break down
some of the things going around in the NBA. Before
we get to that, we gotta find out what's trending
with Manzi Bilanos.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
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Speaker 6 (24:29):
Join now by doctor Evan Jeffries, doctor of physical therapy,
NBA Injury Insider, Doctor Evans, thank you for being here.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
We appreciate you.
Speaker 7 (24:37):
Hey, fellas, how you doing, Thanks for having me back.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
We are doing good man. We can start right now
with Kyrie Irvin.
Speaker 6 (24:45):
I mean there's some questions, some people saying he was
playing the most minutes he's played in quite some time,
and that they were over using him. Others say it
was just a flukey crazy injury tearing that left Aco.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
What'd you see and what are your thoughts?
Speaker 7 (24:58):
Yeah, so I think the narrative right now that he
was playing too many minutes, especially after the big trade
and Luca and Ad and after Ad went down. But
I don't think we can have that same narrative because
there's a period of time where you guys know, high
stand on load management and that was actually causing more
injuries the load management. So I don't think we can
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necessarily just dial down that the fact he was playing.
You know, over the last six weeks, he's played about
thirty thirty eight point seven minutes per game, last five
straight games he's played forty minutes before that. But do
you guys remember the nineties and the eighties right, Oh yeah,
you guys played more than forty minutes a game every
single game, right, So I don't think we can just
(25:39):
put it all on that. For the ACL, I think
more injuries, like soft tissue injuries. You see that more
when the load, when they're playing so many minutes and
getting a little bit of fatigue. But I wouldn't blame
that on for the AHL.
Speaker 6 (25:52):
Yeah, there's John Stock to play like sixteen seasons in
a row, not missing the game.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
I think they'll be our right playing more.
Speaker 8 (26:01):
For sure, for sure.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Yeah, I also wonder and Doc maybe, like at least
I think it's with some of these athletes. In the
old days, you used to take an off season, let
your body heal, you know, like.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Like take some time off. And now these athletes they
got their own personal trainers.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Right after the season, you see them working out and
the videos they want to show everybody all the work
they're putting in. Guys used to get a little paunch.
Guys used to put on a ten chubby pounds and
then you would work it off in training camp and
get back into shape, and I just wonder if it's
too much, like too much working out too much, can
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that be hurtful or harmful to a player?
Speaker 7 (26:52):
Yeah, I like that point, Rob. I think right now
we got too many smart people in the room, right,
so much technology, there's so much data, and these players
are in the off season, they're they're having a serious
training program, They're not saying enough time, they're not doing
any cross training, you know, especially as these kids are
(27:13):
growing up in the AAU system and in college, they're
not doing any other sports. So I think that's just
leading to just some of the stuff that Yeah, like
back in the day, those guys would just going to
take a break for two months, right, and then come
back to build their body, let their body rest, and
then go pick up a basketball and get the work.
Speaker 9 (27:31):
Right.
Speaker 7 (27:32):
So, I do think that we are probably doing too much.
I think a lot of these people are just trying
to get the best knowledge from people, which is great,
and at the same time, everybody has different trainers, doctors.
There's like so many people in the puzzle there that
I think maybe there's some complaint with certain things that
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they're doing.
Speaker 6 (27:53):
You know, doctor Jefferies, our guest doctor, having Jefferies, doctor
physical therapy, NBA injury insiders just kind of stand on
this on the subject. I used to work with Michael Thompson,
former NBA player Clay Thompson, and he used to always
say that he would say he would take up tennis,
he would swim, he would do all the other things.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
And kind of get back to it. Let me all.
Speaker 6 (28:12):
And another thing we talk about too is specializing. Like
kids they don't play these other sports growing up. They
start pitching at five, and they pitched like crazy, and
they start getting Tommy John surgery at sixteen electively, parents
like you play hit anyway, Let's cut him up now,
Like what are you making up this crazy obsession especially
with parents of like making their kids specialize and be
(28:33):
locked into things.
Speaker 7 (28:34):
Yeah, yeah, don't get me started on baseball, because that's
a whole Another animal is part of the youth game.
I had We had a client and we were talking
about a picture that he had and the guy went
in to check his elbow. He did not have a
porn ucl, but he wanted to do a permititive surgery
because there's already stretched out a little bit crazy.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
That's crazy, and the kid.
Speaker 7 (28:59):
Wants to have surgery because he's like, WHOA, everybody has
Tommy Johns eventually, So I need to get back and
I'll just do it right now if I get out
of the way. Now that right there is just backwards, right,
So you never want to do some permittive surgery like that.
But I just think that kids should be kids and
they should play multiple sports. I mean, I have two kids,
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and I got them playing multiple sports throughout the year
because I don't want them just specializing in one right now, right,
So I think you have to have that off season
and that cross training during the off season.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
But so many of the greatest athletes or a multi sport
play they play yeah right, they all played two or
three sports all of yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (29:41):
There was some stat about the NFL and first round
Josh spicks ninety six percent of those players play multi
sports in high school. And that's just the fact that
you if you're an athlete, you're going to be good
at most sports, right, and that gives your body a
break from that that you concentrate on during the offseason.
(30:02):
That's what you need to do, and what you're doing
in that sport usually trans translates well to your own sport.
Speaker 6 (30:11):
You know, I think about Dion Sanders, Randy Moss was
like all world back in uh Virginia.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
I mean, it's just it's West Virginia. It's just crazy.
Speaker 6 (30:20):
How many of these guys are freaks and nature, Dion
Send and Bo Jackson, the list goes on and on.
So any when you look at some of the injuries
again going on, let's go to what happened would Winby again,
this is kind of a freak thing. This wasn't you know,
your typical a cl or messed up elbow or something.
We're talking blood clouds. What does this just kind of
(30:40):
enlighten us a little bit more? What does this mean?
And what does this look like as far as recovery?
And how do you are you fearful? As as an organization?
Speaker 7 (30:46):
The Spurs, Yeah, it's it's tough because that's such a
rare type of thing to happen. And he's pretty young
as well. I think the Spurs caught it pretty early.
So the main thing is, don't have to be in
bloods for at least three months. Make sure the clot
is gone. You know, players like Brandon Ingram all Right
(31:07):
has had this and then came back the next season,
so I think, and I think uh Aman Thompson had
as well and then was back the next season. So
I think they just have to let him rest right,
make sure the clod is gone. But I don't think
it's going to be a detriment to the rest of
his career, all.
Speaker 6 (31:27):
Right, Well, hope with not, because he obviously a great player,
met so much of that franchise, so much to the league,
and you hate to.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
See what do you do with what do you do it?
Is it just blood thinners?
Speaker 1 (31:37):
How do you how do you how do you correct that?
Speaker 7 (31:40):
So most of the time it's just blood sinters. The
main thing is what you're trying to prevent is that
clot from going anywhere, right, So especially being in the arm,
it's close to going to the heart, to the lungs,
to the brain, right. So that's why immediately you have
to go on blood center and then you just let
that clouds all. Every once in a while if it's
(32:02):
something very severe. I think Brandon Ingram actually had to
have the throm thrombosis removed, so that can happen if
you hear that maybe in a month or something that
he had surgery to remove it. That could be a possibility,
but most of the time it's just bloodpinters and what and.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
What makes the blood clot, what makes a blood clot
for people.
Speaker 7 (32:20):
Have told you typically that's why it's so rare from
his standpoint, particularly it's after like surgery and if you
are on bed rest or you're just not moving as much,
the blood will just kind of pull into an area
and start to coagulate, which is his clot. Okay, And
then that's typically the way it happens. There's a lot
(32:41):
of signs for a therapist when they're seeing it seeing
a client rather with the surgery, if there's if something
like that is going on. And Wendy's case, he was
just having some fatigue and shoulder pain, right, So that
wasn't that's kind of out of the ordinary normally.
Speaker 6 (32:55):
Hey, doctor Evan Jefferies, thank you for joining us.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
We appreciate you shedding some light on size away around
the league. Man. Thank you so much.
Speaker 7 (33:02):
Thank you guys for having me.
Speaker 6 (33:03):
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Speaker 3 (33:11):
All right, Rob Giegus got some up.
Speaker 6 (33:13):
He said he's got a good shop talk for us, Rob,
So let's see what Rob g has for shop Talk.
Interested to see have a little fun with that? It
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Speaker 3 (33:57):
Rob, it is the way tied buying should be. What
why do I know this one? I can't. I can't.
Don't give me a clue. You remember this one? Rob?
This is La Law. Yes, you know I remember that right? Well?
Speaker 6 (34:12):
I mean why I knew I've remembered it or I
was familiar because it was the first time in my
life I was told I looked like somebody and a
woman stopped my woman stopped my mother and said, ma'am,
as if it could be anybody else. But she goes,
your son looks like the black guy on LA Law.
And my mother goes, Blair under what and she goes yes.
(34:34):
And I've been hearing that for every day, every day
when every day? But you know, for all these years since,
did I ever show you a picture? When I finally met him,
we did a little funny little thing with it. It
was it was hilarious, and you see that he was
kind of like, all right, I ca't front I.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Do see it a little bit. Did he really? Wow,
I'll send it to you. I'm gonna say he. I
think him and Peggy Lipton kissed on television. They did
something that might have been the first time I don't
white kissed a white woman. Wait, why are you sitting that?
Oh black man kissed the white No us? Wait was
it really? James R. Jones didn't do that. Sidney Potier
(35:11):
didn't do that. No, God, a TV show, not a
movie TV show. All right, I'm gonna have to get
the Google sphere. You might be right there. You know
you're trivius.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Well, because it's it's it's Captain Kirk and lieutenant.
Speaker 6 (35:24):
I know that one white man, black woman, right, I
know that one. Right, all right, let's get to it.
It's topic shop talk.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Ain't nobody, ain't still being a bump shop?
Speaker 2 (35:37):
You know that?
Speaker 3 (35:37):
Ain't nobody you were talking about?
Speaker 9 (35:39):
Whoever?
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Whatever, whatever you want to in a boss wit shop.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
It's gonna be a short one. It is shop talking segment.
We talk about something happened outside of the world of sports.
This week's topic comes to us from the world of music.
I don't know if you guys saw this. There's video
floating around the internets on Wednesday that shows Drake arguably
the most successfu arguably the most successful rap part is
in the last decade plus alone by himself because he
(36:05):
rented out a nightclub so he could sit quietly listening
to Sabrina Carpenter and gambling on his laptop. Guys, here's
the question. Drake buying out the club to be by himself?
Is that a flex or? Is that just sad?
Speaker 6 (36:21):
Okay, wait a minute, I'm looking at it right now, Rob,
because he told me about this earlier.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
You didn't tell me him.
Speaker 6 (36:27):
Now everything I said to you, Robbed you, I take back,
Rob Parker. I'm looking at the video. See, I thought
he was just mining owns business, like just focusing.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
On his gambling.
Speaker 6 (36:38):
And like, this is robb g Everything I told you,
I take back now that I saw the video. He's
in there with the biggest mink coat, white mink coat
you've ever seen.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
Rob Parker with.
Speaker 6 (36:48):
A big bottle of shamp of wine and champagne. Like me, Now,
this is extra Robbgy. See I was I thought maybe
he was mine and owned business, you know, just wanted
to be isolated. I'm rich, I'm a celebrity. I don't
want to be around everybody. Sometimes this is so extra.
This is him doing this on purpose. He's he's got confede,
he's got confetti coming down by himself in a white
(37:10):
mink coat while he's gambling.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
This has gone too far. I blame Kendrick Lamar. It's
just a flex. He has money to burn. I mean,
that's all it is.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
And then, of course, because if it really was about him,
then you don't need to have the pictures and show
everybody that you've done it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
It's just a flex. Let me show you what I did.
Let me show what kind of loute I have. Look
at my mint coat all that other stuff. If I
had some pain, I would throw it on it.
Speaker 6 (37:36):
But that's why. Yeah, it'd be the day I joined Peter. Right, Yeah,
I thought Peter is about it. I do like with Peter,
bread is good with little hummus. Yeah, I thought I
thought it was maybe him just kind of chilling with
a couple homies, and this is totally like him just
trying to remind people look at me and to be
honest with you, just kind of tone deaf, like this
is kind of the stuff that people who even like
(37:58):
Drake who they're supportive, but they're like, you're making it
hard because this is tone that people are struggling right now.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
The economy's doing this and you're.
Speaker 6 (38:04):
In here right noown clubs by yourself, confetti and again
what you got.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
I mean, it's ridiculous. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 12 (38:12):
It is a flex and also sad. I feel like
it's all at the same time, like why you're doing
this to show off? I agree with Rob absolutely you're
just doing it to show off and be a flex,
But at the same time, it is tone deaf and
it is kind of sad, like this is you're not
this doesn't make you look cool, Drake.
Speaker 6 (38:30):
It's just it's kind of weird because again, it wasn't
just when I saw this is him like deliberately doing this.
But honestly, man, this is listen. We've all been there.
You got smacked up a little bit. Maybe I roughed
up in a fighting his case in a big rat
be publicly worldwide.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
And I think he's just struggling. I mean, it's sincerely.
Speaker 6 (38:48):
I think he's struggling, trying to find his way, find
his identity again and kind of you know, I guess
come bounce back from that from the whole Cantrick thing.
I really mean that I think he's struggling with that.
I could be wrong, but that's what it looks like.
Because this makes none of the sense.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
The streets are saying he's in the club with all
his day ones. That's what they're saying.
Speaker 6 (39:09):
THEO I feel like you were in the streets. I
feel like you're in the streets and this, oh man
wide receivers all that money is about to stop.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
We'll tell you why.
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