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Rob & Kelvin talk about Mavericks GM Nico Harrison’s closed-to-media press conference earlier today, Pelicans analyst Antonio Daniels joins the show to talk about the changes coming to New Orleans, another edition of Trash Talkin’ Tuesday, and more!

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And we will not n ot interrupt. So we got

(01:39):
a lot to cover in this next hour. So you
just heard I Low talk about Nico Harrison, the general
manager of the Dallas Mavericks, basically saying he has no
regrets he made the trade. He's good with it despite
where the Mavericks are and what tapped and and you know,

(02:01):
with some injuries and whatnot. And he talked about I
know I saw the defense wins championships and that was
the reason that he made this move. And let's just
face it, it's not a basketball trade and he can
sugar coat it talk about anything he wants. They just
were out of the Luca business. No, thank you. We're
not paying three hundred and fifty million dollars to a

(02:23):
twenty five year old who has a thirty five year
old body and who likes to drink.

Speaker 5 (02:28):
Apparently, right from the video that we saw Michael Finley exactly.

Speaker 4 (02:33):
And he loves the hookah, not Luca and all the
other stuff that go out there exactly. But I think
his response is the right response. What regret do you have?
You are not going to pay him. This is above
his pay grade. Kelvin, You could give me that, now,
you could give me a look that.

Speaker 5 (02:57):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (02:58):
If this was about him making a bad trade, he
wouldn't be the general manager, Okay, Like he would not
be the general manager.

Speaker 5 (03:05):
He's following orders. People work for people.

Speaker 4 (03:09):
Is this on you think Nico Harrison one day woke
up and said, I want to be the most hated
guy in Dallas. Come on, man, I don't understand people.
Do you really believe that's what he did?

Speaker 1 (03:23):
No, you can't trade a twenty five year old top one, two,
three four players, an international star international that you can't do.
You can't wake up in trade a even middlely. Hey guys,
I'm thinking trades, okay, even if he's an all star.
But it's like, all right, you're gonna trade Julius Randall.

Speaker 5 (03:37):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (03:37):
He he doesn't regret it, and he shouldn't because those
were the marching orders. We are not n ot under
any circumstances paying that guy three hundred and fifty million dollars.
I don't know why people that's not a basketball. Trade
has nothing to do with basketball. This was a financial situation.

(04:04):
When you decide you're not gonna play, pay somebody the Marcus.

Speaker 5 (04:08):
Because we bring him up all the time. The Kings
were like, well, we can't do anything with him. Now,
what we're gonna do once we give him two hundred
and something million dollars? And what happened? Do you ever
get that deal?

Speaker 6 (04:19):
No?

Speaker 5 (04:19):
No, he did, not sitting on the couch doing podcasts.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
So the issue I have when you keep saying it's
not a basketball I get your point, right, this is
they don't believe in him. They don't want to pay
the man three hundred and fifty and so they let
him go. And Nico cannot regret the trade because he
was told and forced to do the trade. Now, he
of course probably weighed in. Here's some options. I got
connections with the Lakers. I was and I did a

(04:45):
lot of great business with Kobe, so I know what's
going on over there, and maybe I know Rob Lincoln,
So yeah, I believe he was heavily involved in the
all Right, we're gonna do this, how do we go
about this?

Speaker 5 (04:56):
And this is where he gets to smoke from me.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
If you felt the knee to trade Luca, first of all,
it's crazy, but if you did, all right, I just
keep going to these a couple of things. Rob Number One,
you don't trade for Anthony Davis. If your whole premise is, oh,
we believe he's gonna have a catastrophic injury, Luca and
in five years he's gonna break down, Well, then you
trade for a guy who's often hurt so much so

(05:20):
he has a nickname street Clothes and Anthony Davis.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
That's the part I don't get it.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
If they went out and got some other amazing talent
with a couple of first round picks and some of you,
all right, that's crazy, but least they got a bunch back.
Oh you got Sga, all right, Well I get it.
You got Ann Edwards. Okay, I get it. They got
rid of him for Anthony Davis, who's six years older,
often hurt, to pair him with Kyrie Irving, often hurt.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
And he mentioned Kyrie in the conference.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
He goes, you know, the Maverick fans were mad at
me when I traded for Kyrie. But then they were
happy see that worked out. But let me tell you
something about Kyrie, who is a Hall of Famer, had
the heck of a career thus far, Kyrie is often hurt.
He had a stretch of two games in fifty games
in twenty nine games, sixty games, then forty games in
twenty games in fifty eight and only fifty this year.

(06:06):
So your pair Kyrie with Anthony Davis, two guys are
often hurt. It just doesn't make sense. And they're both
six years older than Luca, So that's the part that
doesn't make sense. Last point is this, You tell us
what we're trying to get two way players defense wins championship. Well,
I will tell you when you have a general generational
talent like a Luca. Let me tell you who won

(06:27):
some championships. Who wasn't the greatest defender Larry Bird. He
wasn't Gary Payton, bow Yo Kic. We know he is
not the Ken Bab Matombo Steph. You ain't combining.

Speaker 5 (06:40):
Into the basketball thing, which that that that's not what
this is.

Speaker 4 (06:44):
I'm also some of the other stuff that he said,
but that stuff is a is a smoke screen.

Speaker 5 (06:49):
It's what I'm trying to tell you.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
Angles Rob if he wants to go.

Speaker 4 (06:54):
But that's what he's saying to make it as if
this is about basketball, about defense, about this him blowing
out his leg or or or or foot or something,
or he's he's out of shape or whatever. You could
say all that stuff. All I'm saying, Kelvin, I get it.

Speaker 5 (07:10):
This is this is this was they didn't want him,
like like they didn't want him.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
I get that.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
The only the issue I have when you say that
is I don't think clearly they didn't want him. But
not wanting Luca docs can still be wrong like that.

Speaker 5 (07:27):
It can't be wrong if.

Speaker 4 (07:28):
You really believe seriously financially it's a bad deal for you.
So so no, and you people have given up players
and whatnot a situation No, I'm talking about where you
just decide I'm not going to sign them.

Speaker 5 (07:43):
But financial reason.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
The reason this is you is because the elk, this
is Luca this. If this were anybody, or it could
even be a top ten player, it could even be
Jason Tatum and you'd be like, oh wow, that's kind
of crazy. But I mean, okay, Luca, there's like three
to four players you just.

Speaker 5 (08:03):
Don't do that, but what MVP has he won? What?
What championship has he won? You get that?

Speaker 4 (08:08):
No, but you're making it like, oh my god, they
gave up a guy who won them three champs that
he hasn't won anything yet.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
Because he can't get care. No, he literally got you
to the finals. No, no, goes, well we got the finals.
You don't what you do now let's be in the
play in Noah.

Speaker 4 (08:23):
But my point is I understand if it was somebody
you know, like who won two or three champs.

Speaker 5 (08:29):
This is not about basketball.

Speaker 4 (08:31):
I hear what you're saying, and everything you say makes sense,
but it's illogical to equate it to basketball because the
trade does not equal up, does not make sense.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
So it'll be dark.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
Then get saying it has to be dark because it
can't just be the money, like meaning somebody's gonna get
the money.

Speaker 5 (08:51):
It is the money, It's not.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
What I'm saying is let's say they drive someone this
summer I'm serious, and he ends up being great and
in two years we all go he's the next not whoever,
he's gonna get the money eventually, right, So are they
just never gonna pay someone the max?

Speaker 4 (09:05):
You don't you don't have a Supermax tweet fifty. No,
they've never paid anybody that.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
No, what I'm.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
Saying, if you get somebody that is that good, if
you get your Aunt Edwards, if you get your SGA,
if you get your Yo Kisch, if you get your Tatum,
But in fact A Jalen and Tatum Jalen don't.

Speaker 4 (09:21):
But you don't know if that player has a different mindset,
is not out at carousing, is not out drinking and smoking.

Speaker 5 (09:29):
You don't know.

Speaker 4 (09:30):
That guy could be the perfect guy, could be a
young Wimby and he's not into any of that, and
it's about bat like. You could have that guy. I
just they just don't believe he's that guy. It's five
time first team NBA Playoff series. Have you looked at him?

Speaker 5 (09:48):
Yes, and he looks he's in much better shape. Now, Okay,
what I'm asking you.

Speaker 4 (09:52):
They watched him for for for five years, six years,
they watched him. That was their chance to evaluate on
whether we want to make this long term investment in somebody.
They're the ones who gave Luca gave them doubt, not
because it's not as basketball ability, it's the other stuff
that gave them doubt to say no, we don't want

(10:14):
to sign a long term deal.

Speaker 5 (10:15):
Let me throw this at that's all.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
And this is a real this is really where I'm
I want you to help illuminate enlighten me then, because
the math ain't math in two plus two or six
right now. Mark Cuban swore by this guy, I mean
literally hip to hip everywhere he goes. This is my
Mark Cuban is the end all beyond, no no, what
I'm saying. He's the one who had the guy his
whole career. He drafted him, he swore by him. This

(10:39):
is my new Dirt. So excited I will leave my
wife before I leave him. This is the guy sells
the team in less than a year. They're ready to
get rid of that guy. So I'm genuinely saying, what's
the disconnect between Mark Cuban, who has seen what it takes.
He went to a finals with Dirk and loss. He
came back in one with Dirt. I give it to you,

(11:00):
you know what I mean? So theres a misconnect between
this guy who's been in the league owning a team
for twenty something years versus his new ownership and they're like,
oh no, he ain't the one.

Speaker 4 (11:08):
Well, but because also there are people and you know this,
who overlooked the bad stuff that people do because you
overlook it and you just say, I don't care. Because
if Mark Cuban was so in love with and why
did he cash out? Why did he walk out before
he had to pay him three hundred and fifty million.
So it's easy to say that Mark Cuban never paid

(11:30):
anybody three hundred and fifty million.

Speaker 5 (11:32):
Mark Cuban was easy.

Speaker 4 (11:33):
He was on a rookie contract or made less money
to overlook those things. When you make that kind of commitment,
you have to look at somebody with the finer tooth
comb and that's where it comes in.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
Did you see Mark Cuban.

Speaker 4 (11:47):
It's easy for Mark Cuban to say that now because
he won the guy paying him, Mark took his.

Speaker 5 (11:51):
Money and ran the other way. With the Mavericks.

Speaker 4 (11:53):
He was so much in love with with Luca that
he wanted out of basketball.

Speaker 5 (11:57):
That's just a basket, that's just the business decision.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
That's just him. I'm about to I've had this team
for twenty something years.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
The man ain't got to die with him and he
still has part ownership. So yeah, I just I that's
my biggest thing that all of a sudden, none of it.
Lucas that guy, he's the one then within an eight
nine month period, but he.

Speaker 5 (12:13):
Has different everybody no more.

Speaker 4 (12:15):
I just I don't think that because Mark Cuban says
it's so that it means anything.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
I just well, who we don't know anything about.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
I'd rather trust the guy who's won a ring and
went to the finals and had tons of success, tons
of success versus this new ownership. And they just started
on the casino. That's what they just started. And they
started by making a horn. They make the playoffs? They start,
did they make the playoffs? They know they made the
play in Okay, Okay, so they're in the playing right, Okay,

(12:45):
So that's cool.

Speaker 5 (12:45):
We'll see all right.

Speaker 4 (12:47):
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Speaker 5 (12:52):
Where are You? Nico says he has h Harrison says
he has no regrets.

Speaker 4 (12:58):
Are you buying it? Malarch is a BS. I'm buying it.
I'm buying it because they did not want him. It
has nothing to do with basketball. Kelvin disagrees. He thinks
that they regret it, and then they know what they
were doing, and they don't realize that they had a
guy who was a five time All NBA. No, No,
they didn't know they had that, and they just gave

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the guy one. No.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
You can make regrets. You can do something and go oops,
why did I do that?

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Nico Harrison said, no regrets. I did what I did.

(14:56):
I'm saying it, and I did it with my chess.
What he saying about the trade to regarding Luca rob
and I would not you say eight seven seven ninety
nine on Fox Who.

Speaker 4 (15:05):
We got Avery in Los Angeles. You're on the eye
couple of Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 5 (15:09):
What's up? Avery?

Speaker 7 (15:10):
And I'm doing fun?

Speaker 8 (15:11):
How you guys doing I disagree with and kills him.

Speaker 9 (15:14):
Don't call me Chavin. That's right, Rob, Rob, I disagree
with you on over fifty percent of the stuff.

Speaker 8 (15:21):
You say.

Speaker 9 (15:22):
This one everybody else's fools. They're absolutely right. It had
nothing to do with players or anything like that. They
wanted him gone yesterday. Yes, all right, that's that simple.
And one of the other things that people aren't talking
about the third team that was involved, Utah Danny Ainge
didn't even know what the trade was with the Lakers,
right because I read about that.

Speaker 8 (15:43):
I react and he said that, you know.

Speaker 9 (15:45):
The Lakers were involved, he would have never done the trade.
So which makes me say, how did the Age do
a trade and not know who all'sn't involved?

Speaker 2 (15:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (15:53):
That is that is crazy, no doubt. But but I'm
with you, Avery. Thanks for the call. Appreciate it. Lou
in Allentown, Pennsylvania. What's up, Loue?

Speaker 2 (16:06):
Doing good?

Speaker 5 (16:06):
Great? What a voice that is on you? Lou Man?

Speaker 10 (16:10):
Why what's wrong? A little deeper?

Speaker 11 (16:12):
What? No?

Speaker 2 (16:12):
Deep?

Speaker 5 (16:12):
It's good. That sounds good. I'm not ripping you.

Speaker 10 (16:17):
It doesn't matter. That doesn't matter. Okay, mister Parker, this
is your lucky day. I agree with you too.

Speaker 7 (16:23):
Thank you, And I never agree with you, wow.

Speaker 10 (16:28):
But I gotta agree with mister Cuban. He's a businessman,
knows what he's doing. What's hurt beginning of this year
or fat or what was I don't know what, but
I ain't given nobody like that thirty five fifty million dollars.

Speaker 4 (16:45):
And you know what, they didn't like the way he
woul whatever he was doing or trying to get back
into shape or get out there. That really turned him off.
And they were like, let's get rid of this dude.
He doesn't want to do anything on what we need
him to do. We can't monitor his workouts, he won't
stop eating, drink it, whatever it is.

Speaker 5 (17:01):
I'm just that's what.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
Turned them on.

Speaker 4 (17:03):
Big whatever it is, Andre Big, whatever it is. You're
in the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 5 (17:10):
What's up, Dray, Hey.

Speaker 8 (17:13):
What's going on?

Speaker 6 (17:14):
Thanks tak Nicoll. Yeah, I agree, And I believe Nego
Harris that he said that he has no regrets based
on his trade, uh, because he knows if he said
anything else, he's going to be out of a job.
So this is purely out of self preservation that he's
taking this stance. But from a basketball perspective, he and
he hasn't had a good night's sleep since months before
the trade when he knew that he was going to
be put in a position to have to do this.

(17:35):
All right, So I think it's twofold right now from
a business standpoint in terms of self interest in putting
bread on the table from you and yours. All right,
he doesn't have any regrets, right because he knows that
this was coming from the top.

Speaker 5 (17:46):
Of the right.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
He just wasn't He didn't wake up one dancy. I'm
a trade looking anybody's debating that yet. I mean, you
can't ever pull off a move like that without the ownership.
That doesn't even that's illogical for sure.

Speaker 5 (17:59):
Trey Texas, you're on the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio.
What's up, Tright?

Speaker 8 (18:03):
What's up?

Speaker 5 (18:04):
Guys?

Speaker 2 (18:04):
You're right, doll Roight.

Speaker 8 (18:06):
Man, I agree with you most times, but man, I
can't agree with you on that. Man.

Speaker 12 (18:10):
You gotta stop its way, absolutely no way, man, Ray, No.

Speaker 9 (18:17):
What's in the generation player like that?

Speaker 8 (18:19):
Now? He's gonna regret it in the sleep until he
is done from that team. Press me.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Yeah, you know, I'm with you, Tray. They trying to
They trying to make it.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
Uh, put some perfume, some cologne on him, some poop
and make us think it's good.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
They're trying it ain't working.

Speaker 5 (18:33):
Drew in New Jersey, you're on the odd couple of
Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Drew?

Speaker 9 (18:38):
Hey, guys, I.

Speaker 13 (18:39):
Don't know if there's any even if you want to
put in a business siense, it's not good business. And
polt of decision they always say, if you can't make
a decision, to hire somebody else to do it, if
you're making the most decision. Because what he did is
he took you didn't take all offers to the market.
So guess what As a as a GM you you

(18:59):
owe it to your fans to get the best team
assembled possible for now in the future.

Speaker 8 (19:04):
You didn't do that.

Speaker 13 (19:06):
If as and buns about it, you could easily easily
gotten draft picks on top of the Lakers. Had you
brought that to market, you could have gotten more. You didn't,
even if you want to say all the things that
have them cool, great, didn't get the best get the
best off or possible. And had you done that, we

(19:28):
wouldn't be here.

Speaker 5 (19:29):
Yeah, that's the part too.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
Drew, But that's not line if they failed to do it,
but don't get more, go get it.

Speaker 5 (19:35):
There's another part. There's another part. He's due to a
big contract.

Speaker 4 (19:38):
Is that eliminates a number of teams that might not
be interested in that kind of money that you got
to lay out for him. And then it's probably was
something that uh uh, they didn't want to leak out
there and have out there because it would have been
even worse the response if they knew that they were
shopping him, do you know what I mean? Like they
thought like they couldn't do it like that, that they

(20:00):
had to be like in the cloak of night, because
they knew what they were doing was that big of
a deal.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
And still I still math though math for me, and
it either never will or when the teil All books
come out, we'll find out.

Speaker 4 (20:13):
Or or Luca will be overweight and have a major injury,
and then you'll come back and I'll remember this, no, no, no,
but I'll remember this, and then you'll we'll go back
and go you know what, maybe they were right. Maybe
they were right about him and he's out of shape
and they signed him to a big came.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
Anthony Davis got hurt the first game.

Speaker 5 (20:32):
Sense Anthony David Davis also has a championship that they
wouldn't have to do with.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
What does that have to do with the Mavericks.

Speaker 4 (20:40):
I'm just talking about the idea that one of the
players involved has actually won a championship.

Speaker 14 (20:46):
The thing that doesn't translate for me is like, yeah, great,
they don't have to pay Luca three hundred two million dollars,
but like, where are they going to make money from
because no one is going to go to MAVs. You
know how many people I have seen be like I
was a MAVs fan, but I'm a Lakers fan. Now,
Yeah that's what That's what they all say. And then
and then another player comes along, but they're not getting
the sponsorships they were gonna get with Luca, Like it
just doesn't make me interested to see what their books

(21:07):
look like.

Speaker 4 (21:08):
Yes, but but the only issue though bo is three
hundred and fifty million is a major commitment. And if
you know this guy's not working out, not doing the
stuff that I need him to do, not working to
get back and be healthy and play for a team
that would that would scare you. That's all I'm saying.
You don't know the behind the scenes. There's gotta be
and you said it before, it's got to be horrific.

(21:29):
You don't know, but don't You don't know yet. You
don't know yet. I don't know yet.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
That's why I said that the doctors not basketball either.
The documentary is gonna go one or two ways. The
worst trade ever or whow we never knew he was
hiding all of this, that's one of the two.

Speaker 5 (21:44):
There's no in the middle at all.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
We got Antonio Daniels on the way for me, NBA
player Serius Sex, and Pelicans color analysts came away to
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Hey playing tournament Hey. Orlando up big against a fifty
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Atlanta's Trey Young thus far is just three out of
nine from the field, the Hawks as a team shooting

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thirty nine percent. Wendell Carter leading excuse me, leading Orlando
with ten points again. The Magic now up on Atlanta
fifty seven to forty one with two twenty five left
to play in the second quarter. Coming up next to
Golden State Warriors host the Memphis Grizzlies in their play
in Tournament matchup. In Major League Baseball, Corbyn Carroll of

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the Arizona Diamondbacks just hit a Grand Slam home run
as Arizona has a ten to one lead at Miami
at the top half of the seventh inning. Cincinnati leading
Seattle six to four. On the top of the six
the Reds Austin Hayes four RBI, including a three run
home run. The Washington Nationals up three to nothing at Pittsburgh.
Top of the eighth inning. Washington's James Wood with his

(22:58):
sixth home run of the season. It covered four hundred
and forty five feet. Boston's Alex Bregman three RBI, including
a home run. They've got a six to two lead
at Tampa Bay in the bottom half of the fifth inning.
Philly's on top of the Giants four to three. In
the bottom of the sixth Cleveland a four nothing advantage
at Baltimore in the bottom of the fifth inning. The
Royals up two to nothing over the Yankees in the

(23:18):
bottom of the sixth, the Blue Jays now leading the
Braves six to one. In the bottom of the fifth inning,
Mets and Twins tied to two in the fourth, but
Pete Alonso is fifth home run of the season and
Juan Soto is third home run of the season four
of the Mets. The Oakland A's leading the White Sox
five to three. Oh, I said it, I said Oakland.
Oh look out, are they gonna take me out with

(23:39):
a sniper? I'll have my lawyer issue and apology. The
Athletics of five to three over the White Sox. Going
to the bottom of the third, the Athletics Tyler Soderstrom
a three run home run, his major league leading seventh
home run of the season for the Athletics. Not to
be confused with the Athletic website. Back to you guys,
all right.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
I though, thank you so much, appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
We are coming to you live from the tire rack
dot Com studios and we're joined now by Antonio Daniel's
former NBA player, Serious Sex and Pelicans color analysts, the
hardest working man in show business A d what's up?

Speaker 2 (24:14):
Brother?

Speaker 8 (24:14):
How you I am? Awesome? Pellas? How are you guys?

Speaker 11 (24:18):
Do it?

Speaker 1 (24:18):
Good man, all right, having some NBA conversations, So of
course you're a perfect man for the perfect time to
have these.

Speaker 4 (24:25):
Yeah, let's start, of course, the hiring of Joe Dumars
going to run the franchise, and we'd say, first your
thoughts on just the hiring of Joe d who we
both know well. Covered Joe in Detroit and obviously won
a championship too as a player, and then we'll do
the second part of the question, which I have for you.

Speaker 8 (24:45):
Well, the thing is something had to change. Things had
to change in New Orleans. I love David Griffin. My
time in New Orleans aligned with his time, so it
was six years for him and it was our so
six years. This is my six years well along with
Zion six years. But something had to change. If that

(25:07):
means the new voice has to be heard, someone to
kind of put the hammer down, so to speak, to
change the culture.

Speaker 12 (25:13):
So be it.

Speaker 8 (25:14):
So I completely understand the higher and I'm excited. I'm
excited to see what Joe Dumoars has in mind as
far as roster construction is concerned, identity is concerned, and
how he's going to move forward.

Speaker 4 (25:27):
And the question is, obviously there's two ways of going right.
You can build around realize that Zion is a talent.
You got to get him healthy and keep him out there,
and you want to, you know, keep him as a
part of the franchise long term and build around him.

Speaker 5 (25:42):
Or you decide to move and move on him and go.

Speaker 4 (25:49):
Get other pieces and building a build his team around
somebody else where are you?

Speaker 8 (25:55):
I mean? I mean, I saw what that man is
capable of. I saw it these capable of like Rob Kelvin,
I have seen this man single handedly put that team
on his back and wiel them to victory. And here's
the thing that there's something to be said about guys
that are so good, that are so dominant that they

(26:17):
increased the confidence of everybody around him. So it doesn't
make a difference who the Pelicans played when Zion was
in uniform. The team, the fan base, the coaching staff
thought that they had a chance to win that game
because of number one. Because of number one. But he's
that good, he's that dominant. The issue is you just

(26:39):
got to keep him on the floor. He just has
to stay on the floor. But as far as confidence
and skilling confidence in everyone around him, as far as
winning gets concerned. Zion's the perfect man for the job.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
But here's my thing, Ad, nobody questions his talent. We
Robin I amazing. He's a flat out all star shooting.
He's efficient, he scores a variety of ways. But man, Ad,
when you start to look at the games, missed it?
Why sell me missed more games than he's playing. Sell

(27:13):
me exactly, why.

Speaker 11 (27:17):
So?

Speaker 1 (27:17):
But so I wish you could, you know you were.
It's hard because you can't like separate yourself an organization.
You can obviously work with him, but is there not
a point where I have to say it is what
it is. Guys don't get healthier as the age. That's
the opposite. It kind of reminds me of Blake Griffin.
Blake had those few great years and then the need
and the injury. You just started to see it. He
kept thinking, No, it'll he'll get it back. No, and

(27:39):
he never did. And I look at a few players
who have been like that. And that's my concern is
that it's not a question of if he gives me
thirty eight minutes tonight while he played, well, yeah, it's
can I get.

Speaker 5 (27:49):
Him out on the floor.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
And I think as whether Joe dumars now or somebody
has to make a decision of is it better to
blow this whole thing up, get a bunch of good picks,
first round picks, and try something new And I know
again you can't.

Speaker 5 (28:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (28:02):
So so here's the thing, here's the thing for me
with no You know, guys don't get healthier as they
do as they get older, but they get smarter. Yeah,
And I think that's the big thing, Like growth isn't linear.
We and I know this as a as a player
and now as an analyst. You know what, the situation
that guys are in the light doesn't come off for

(28:23):
everybody at the same time. And I'm not talking about
the light in between the four lines. I'm not talking
about the light of you know, the game slowing down?
Do you hear that all the time? Now? The game
is so I'm talking about the light outside the four lines.
I'm talking about the light as far as how to eat,
how to how to prepare, how to train, all of

(28:45):
these kind of things, how important it is to be
flexible and dexterity and all these other kind of things
that on my rookie year, my rookie year, I was
even McDonald's for pre game. Yeah, you know what I mean.
I was the McDonald's for pre game. Like all right,
sirpret you know what I mean. I'm young, I can
run it off whatever it may be. But as you
get older, you get smarter. And you're right, Helvin, guys

(29:06):
don't get like like less injury ponents. They get older,
but they do get smarter.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
I like that.

Speaker 5 (29:13):
That makes sense. The uh, what will be the response?
You think in New Orleans?

Speaker 4 (29:19):
Just about fans and you know, because it's got to
be frustrating that things just haven't you know, once you
got zoned, you thought that would be a turning point,
you know in that franchise's history. Uh, do you think
people will will buy into, you know, giving Joe d
some time or feel like they need something to happen asap?

Speaker 8 (29:40):
They need something to happen a sip because this is
a fan base. This is a fan base right now
that is waiting and has been for the next show
to drop. That's that's just how it goes. And I
don't you know, when you're an executive rather it's a
general manager president of basketball operations, you are judged honestly

(30:03):
by the ones that you got wrong.

Speaker 5 (30:06):
Oh absolutely, you're not judge about the ones that you
got right, you know.

Speaker 8 (30:09):
So the thing that Joe Dumars did correctly, people were
kind of, oh, well, that was good, but what about
what about Darko?

Speaker 7 (30:17):
Right?

Speaker 5 (30:18):
What about this?

Speaker 8 (30:18):
What about that? Like you're judged by what you don't
he opposed by what you have done that has made
you successful.

Speaker 4 (30:25):
Even though and I say this all the time, even
though when you look at that team that won a
championship and beat Shaq and Kobe, when you think about
what Joe d put together there, it was an incredible run.
And we noticed because Kelvin's from there and I worked there.

Speaker 5 (30:42):
That building you noticed was sold out.

Speaker 4 (30:44):
Every night for ten years. It was okay, was liv
They had an identity. Everybody knew what they were about.
They went to the finals twice back to back, you know,
that Game seven against the Spurs. They lost us the
next year, but they accomplished a lot, and you're right,
and people still point to just talk or is it

(31:05):
as if that's the only thing he did there.

Speaker 5 (31:07):
It's amazing.

Speaker 8 (31:07):
That's that's the way sports works. That's the way sports works,
Like you know, it's that's the way it's always been.
When you talk about Lebron, even you and I Rob
when we talked about Steph Curry being the greatest shooter
of all times. You know what you're saying. He's never
hit a sound fill in the blank show yesterday one million,
but we skip over all the one million three point

(31:29):
shots that he's hit, like because you're judging on what
you haven't done, you know what I mean, You're just
doing whatever's wrong. You're not judged on what you've done.
That's correctly. Anytime you're talking about Lebron James right, people
always say what's his record in the finals? How many
times has he lost? Not understanding and again I am
not I'm not advocating for losing, but if something be

(31:52):
sad for getting there, it's something to be said for
getting there and winning four times. That's that's hard to do.
What's hard to get to the NBA finals can times.

Speaker 5 (32:00):
That's tough, no doubt.

Speaker 4 (32:01):
One one thing though, last thing I just want to
ask you did Steph Curry not having a play drawing
off for him at the end of that game, you're
down by three, steps had thirty six shot the ball well,
and there's no play for Steph to get the ball
and have a shot to tide the game. Does that
make sense? And what what are we missing?

Speaker 8 (32:20):
What game?

Speaker 10 (32:21):
What game?

Speaker 5 (32:21):
Are you referencing the game the Slippers not yet to
Sunday against the Clippers.

Speaker 8 (32:26):
But he wasn't. He wasn't. Oh you're talking about prior
to the defensive stands. Yeah, yeah, yeah, the Draymond found
you had to take him out the game.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
No, no, no, I'm talking about Buddy Hill.

Speaker 4 (32:38):
That they drew a play play for Buddy Heel to
take the three that he missed and they lost.

Speaker 8 (32:44):
And I've always felt this way about coaching, and I
love I love Steve Kerr, my teammate for years. Sometimes
you can outthink yourself, you can overthink it, and you
can sit there and think yourself like, well you know what, man,
like the prop think the ball is going to go in, right, cry,
So let's go somewhere else, going to use him as
a dcoy. We're gonna use him as a dcoy and

(33:06):
free up Buddy Heel, not like like man Steph Curry
something else. Man. We saw what he did in the
Olympics this summer.

Speaker 5 (33:12):
We saw that. That's why that's why I was shocking
to me at least give him a chance right to
take the shot, that's all.

Speaker 8 (33:19):
And if he misses it, I live with him one
hundred I am one hundred and fifty percent with you there.
I will live with him taking a shot shooting the
air bowl, you know what, because he's the best best
shooter to ever touch a basketball. But you cannot not
have him touch that ball.

Speaker 5 (33:33):
Chris, best shoot it ever shoot a basketball. Three was coming.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
I knew it was coming, as all right, I'm with you,
AD to Larry birds out the head, stop it, thank you, AD,
all right, all right, appreciate it as always.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
All right.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
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Speaker 2 (34:37):
It's that time now for trash talking Tuesday.

Speaker 5 (34:46):
Don't you ever talk about me?

Speaker 3 (34:47):
It's trash talking Tuesday's tee Regie.

Speaker 8 (34:54):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (34:54):
Whether to smile.

Speaker 8 (34:55):
Lets you kick a field, go man.

Speaker 5 (34:58):
I jump in a seven ninety nine on Fox you
could still get in.

Speaker 11 (35:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (35:04):
How about Connie in South Dakota. You're under a couple
of Fox Sports Radio. What's up Connie?

Speaker 10 (35:10):
Hey?

Speaker 11 (35:11):
If he stopt yelling all the time too loud, you
can't understand what you're saying. Well, man, she either right
or wrong. We're yelling and the people.

Speaker 4 (35:22):
Okay, thank you, that's it. I appreciate it, thank you.
Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox. I got a
talking to that Mama hunt that that was was that
was that was.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
That was not Mama Dov.

Speaker 5 (35:37):
She would put a little more stink on it. That
was she would That was. That was mom like trying
to tell me, yeah she had enough. Wow, man, all
I gotta scolding.

Speaker 1 (35:46):
You ain't getting no uh no chocolate cake before bed
tonighting like that.

Speaker 5 (35:51):
I know I've just been a while.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
I saw his face right he at PTSD.

Speaker 4 (35:54):
He was like eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox
jumping Ken in California on the odd couple of Fox
Sports Radio.

Speaker 5 (36:01):
What's up Ken?

Speaker 12 (36:02):
Hey, let's be talking Tuesday.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
Hey, what's up?

Speaker 11 (36:06):
Kid?

Speaker 12 (36:07):
Okay, let me get this over again.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
Hold on the way, k K kid, We didn't I'm sorry, Kim.
We didn't do it right.

Speaker 12 (36:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (36:13):
This kid? Who you trash a kid?

Speaker 2 (36:16):
There we go, there we go. We're slipping kid.

Speaker 12 (36:19):
Oh, Rob's buddies Kevin House, you know hey, House and
and a d.

Speaker 7 (36:28):
Were saying that the.

Speaker 12 (36:32):
Steph Curry is the best shooter, and no he isn't, man.

Speaker 10 (36:37):
He isn't.

Speaker 12 (36:37):
He makes a lot of three pointers, but he is
the best shooter. He's not the best shooter and the
only bucket sold? Uh?

Speaker 8 (36:46):
Howse is shooting these days?

Speaker 12 (36:48):
There when he's through with this canc here and poppy
his bucket and he throws him out for trash man?

Speaker 2 (36:56):
Why am I get at your kid?

Speaker 1 (36:58):
Why you don't want want to start that conversation again?
About Steph Currey the best shooter.

Speaker 4 (37:03):
Everybody just know I told you, Okay, so no, that's right.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
I'm not gonna disagree. I mean, I am going to
disagree he is to me, but I was gonna say
who is for you? That's fine, He's not who you got.
Michael Jordan's that shooter. Yeah, he had a better shooting
percentage than Steph Curry.

Speaker 5 (37:20):
How's that? I would take Michael Jordan making any shot
on a Yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
I guess when I say shooter, I think of Larry Bird,
I think of Reggie Miller.

Speaker 5 (37:31):
You can say my Michael Jordana averaged thirty points. He
wasn't a shooter.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
He was, Oh well, he was way less dunt than
people think he was. Mid ranging, y'all a death to
death making shin squeeze.

Speaker 5 (37:44):
One more in that? Tim? Is that Wisconsin?

Speaker 2 (37:48):
Somewhere in West Canton?

Speaker 5 (37:50):
You're in the couple of Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
Who you trashing?

Speaker 5 (37:53):
Tim?

Speaker 12 (37:56):
It's hard to hear you.

Speaker 7 (37:57):
You're scrambled, Maybe on too file. Maybe I'm in a
bad area.

Speaker 8 (38:01):
Hey, I'm just calling to see what you think.

Speaker 7 (38:03):
Of what the Bucks really chance is this year? And
you know, to reach the conference finals without Dame Lillard.

Speaker 5 (38:13):
Uh, no way, no, how how's that?

Speaker 2 (38:15):
No?

Speaker 5 (38:15):
Thank you for the call, but no, they can't do
they want to make it with them. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
Yeah, him being out, they said that he might be
able to get back, independent on how far they go,
because he's dealing with the Bloo cloud.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
He said, he's making a lot of progress.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
But yeah, I just I don't buy them right now
unless Gianni's just goes crazy and has a Dirk Novinski.
You know, twenty was that twenty eleven run where it's
just something like that.

Speaker 14 (38:38):
All right, trash, I'm gonna trash Connie and Tim for
lying to me when I asked them if they had
someone to trash and they're both like, yeah, for sure,
I got someone to trash. And then they didn't.

Speaker 5 (38:46):
Well she think, yeah, she said she was going to
trash Luca. So that was you mean they lied like that.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
U's all right, they could Maybe she met Luca. Maybe
Luca yelled at her. Remember he was yelling at fans.
Maybe that's what it was.

Speaker 14 (38:59):
See and Connie sounds like someone that goes to a
lot of me.

Speaker 5 (39:02):
Maybe Connie was the one he was yelling. Donnie goes
to games in South Dakota. I don't think so. I'm
just saying I don't know what game.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
Well, you know what, shout out to South Dakota that
we have listeners out in South Dakota. Connie didn't sound
as if she sounded a little we've all sad.

Speaker 5 (39:18):
Credit called to dam it's to South Dakota. That's what
they're famous for.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
That is about it right there. And Connie now
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