Rob and Kelvin explain why the Oklahoma City Thunder – even if they win the championship – won’t be remembered as an all-time great team in NBA history and tell us if we can trust the Cleveland Browns to get it right with Shedeur Sanders. Plus, Spectrum LA sports host and reporter Nikki Kay swings by to discuss the Thunder’s postseason domination, what this current run means to the state of Oklahoma, the narrative that MVP Shai Gilgeous-Alexander is a ‘foul merchant’, and much more!
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Coming up Nikki k from Spectrum La Yeah Sports. She's
a host and a reporter. We'll talk with her coming
up in about twenty eight minutes.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Cover the Thunder for a while.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
And now here in La Yeah Thunder. I'm just it's
not like a lot of people cover the Thunder. I mean, right,
there's not that many.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
They're real tight knitche to Brown there. How they do it,
they don't really, it's not a lot of people. They
don't kind of let everybody into their world. And so
she covered them for a while and actually was at
Western Conference game one. She was at game one of
the Western Conference finals. So very well connected with the team.
Get us some suit us there for what reason, just
to hang out, just be there. Yeah, just still connected
(02:03):
to the you know how it goes, Still connected to
the team, still connected to other people or in the organization.
So she'll give us some good insight on what's going
on up over there.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
And oh, Kate c all right, Rob do you have
a lot of numbers on the Thunder here?
Speaker 3 (02:19):
And and you.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Could probably paint the picture of just what they've put together.
I mean, I just it's almost like hard to watch
their games because they're so lopsided. It just doesn't even
And I know it sounds ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
But what you want me to do?
Speaker 1 (02:33):
I don't want them to but I'm saying from a
from a viewer standpoint, you know what I mean. I
just like every game is a blowout, like I just
I just be like what Okay, But they put together
some impressive numbers this year, and it's hard not to
argue that they, arguably, numbers wise, one of the best.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Teams in the NBA all the time.
Speaker 6 (02:54):
Guys, I'm gonna I'm gonna read you some facts and
I'm gonna let you get in your feelings. Okay, Okay,
So the Oklahoma City don't know the OKC thunder. First off,
they got the MVP SGA just won yesterday, First Team
All NBA. They also have a thirty team All NBA
guy on their roster, Jalen William J. Dubb named thirteen
All NBA today. Those are the two big guns, big.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Stars in their team.
Speaker 6 (03:17):
During the regular season, we all knew this. OKC had
the largest point differential in NBA history twelve point nine.
They had the best record any team has ever had
against an opposing conference. They were twenty nine to one.
They broke the record for the most double digit wins
in a season.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Why, that's that's what I'm This is what I'm talking
about about the type of games and wins that they had.
Speaker 6 (03:41):
The fifth most wins total in a regular season a
sixty eight. Okay, that was in the regular season. But
even still, I know you guys, I personally wasn't weren't
real big believers in them coming into the playoffs, right,
we all had other teams that we would have picked before, OKC.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
In the postseason.
Speaker 6 (03:59):
Now, they have already outscored their opponents by one two
hundred and thirty eight points. Okay, the in the concluding
the regular seat in the postseason. That is the most
by any team through ninety five games of a season,
any team.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Ever.
Speaker 6 (04:15):
After beating the Wolves in Game two by fifteen points,
they now have accumulated sixty wins this season by at
least fifteen points.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
That ties Steph Cady Warriors for the most in a history.
Speaker 6 (04:30):
And they have at least six games to go, all right,
and here's the last one in the playoffs. Of course,
this number can go up and down. Obviously, they got
more games to play. They currently own the best point
differential plus one thousand, two thirty eight of any team
in NBA history, not just this decade, not just in
(04:56):
the two thousands. Ever, guys, when you have a red
like that, here's the question. If they continue on this track,
they win at the clip that they've been winning, nothing
more and nothing less. They're just doing what they've always done.
This season, they win the championship, will they be remembered
(05:16):
as one of the greatest teams in NBA history?
Speaker 1 (05:18):
That's this is simple, No way, no how, I don't
even care. You could read numbers till the cows come home,
Rob g and I hear them, and they're impressive on paper.
But when you look at the team and other than SGA,
and maybe you.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Know, you're like, like who else?
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Like seriously, Kelvin, I just wouldn't be able to endorse
that that this team is the greatest team in NBA history.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
I just could. I think it's has more to do
with where we.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Are, what kind of game that's played, you know what
I mean, like the style of play which has helped
of course in threes and then when you make threes,
and the kind of scores and all that. But I
don't know, I don't have that feel for that team
to think I'm watching the greatest team in NBA history.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
I don't do you not at all, Rob Parker.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
As matter of fact, I'm going Professor Washington on y'all
butts on this one here and Robby, stop killing me
with analytics. All right, I don't want you. I don't
want to take that for data. I don't want that.
Right now, Let's talk about a few things on my
checklist which would make you an iconic or a memorable team,
all right, number one, and they don't check many, really
any of these boxes. You gotta have a star on
(06:35):
your team who has a real nickname, not just some initials. Okay, Sga,
that's easy. I need some nicknames up and I need
some air. Jordan's up in there, Okay, I need a
Haquen to dream up in there. Okay, I need something.
I need a big Ben Wallace. You gotta give me something.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
He's from Canada. He wears soft, comfortable shoes. What do
you want from him?
Speaker 5 (06:54):
That's what he better give me something else. Rob if
he's trying to be with rob g is trying to
sell us on let me can You gotta have also
a team that hasn't identifier. What I mean is you
gotta be the bad Boys. You gotta be the Showtime Lakers.
You gotta be the Detroit Basketball. You gotta give me
the Heatles. You gotta give me something. They're just the
(07:15):
thunder that's it. They're just the thunder that and there's
nothing member about Remember Rob, remember that one team, well
the thunder Like what Usually great teams have some type
of moniker, some type of name around them, all right,
And then what Rob was saying, you gotta have a
Batman and a Robin. Okay, you gotta have two great players.
They have sga and and Jalen. I guess he's Jayleen.
(07:37):
I guess he's pretty good.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
I' you know.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
You gotta have a shock in Kobe, a Kareem in
Magic a Bird and McHale. You gotta have something like
that on your team. They got it's like McDonald's right,
they got the big Mac. They ain't got no quarter ponder.
Matter of fact, Rob, you know how you go there
and they only got the two cheeseburger option mil like you,
I guess, but you came in for the big Mac.
You came in for the quarter ponder with cheeze. They
ain't even got it. And then also you have to
(08:01):
have iconic moments. The problem is what Rob was saying,
you can't just keep blowing everybody out. I need close games,
close finishes, Robert, or hit some big shots to push
you to the next round.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
You gotta have iconic moments, iconic wins. They don't have them.
Speaker 5 (08:16):
Or you have to at least beating all time great
team right, that would make you. You see that even
in college basketball, when villanov Will beat Georgetown, When NC
State beat Houston, right, you're like, oh, no way this
can happen. When Dallas beat the Heatles with dirt, You're like,
they're way, they're beating them. So you have to have
some iconic moments, some big games. You got to have
(08:37):
big names on the team. You got to have a
team that has an identifier what you are, show time Heatles,
bad boys.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
They don't have any of that. They just got a bunch.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
Of really good basketball players that are deep, and you're like,
they do line changes. Just four or five different guys
come in and they're great and they're good basketball. They're
probably gonna win it all, but nothing will make it
iconic or memorable.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
And here's the other thing.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
They have another team in front of them that people
would identify with or.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Idolize even more, and they didn't win anything.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Remember the Thunder had three young players who all wind
up going to win MVPs in Westbrook, Harden and KD.
They went to a finals. Let's not forget that they
did go to a fire. They didn't win, but they
went to the finals. And that's legendary that they had
those three players there at one time. Think about it, right,
(09:38):
like that team is more identifiable, more acclaimed, even though
there's no champions and obviously Okayse hasn't won yet. You know,
we don't, we don't know what's gonna happen, but I
think there's a team in front of them.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
It reminds me.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
He reminds me of that OKAC team being kind of
like the Fab Five where they never won anything but iconic.
You know them, You remember, remember they did this, Remember
they had this Oh man, what could have been?
Speaker 4 (10:06):
What could have been? And at least there's something.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
That's why the Fab five still is so endeared, Like
there's something there. You want what never won and what
could have been? And that Thunder team is like that.
You had three mv future MVPs. You had this great
team six Man of the Year and Harden and Westbrook
is an All Star top ten player at the time,
and Katie and MVP.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
You know, man, what could have been?
Speaker 5 (10:27):
But at least again, they had the Batman in the Robin,
they even had another one, you know what I mean,
and six Man of the Year, So you had so
many things that you know, is unbelievable without a doubt.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Like I was like, who is this guy like on
the bench?
Speaker 4 (10:41):
Right? So that's a good pull there.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
They remind me of the Fab Five, and at least
you still think about them, talk about them. Whereas this
team if they win this year, I don't know why
you would bring it up.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
It could be a one off.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
It really, it really could be.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
And I know that's unfair because they've had such a
great year, but I could see them being a one
off where you know, everything kind of worked out and
they play really well together and they won a championship,
but they don't string any of them, you know what
I mean, any other championships, and that.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
That's the issue to me, that's the issue with this
seven years of a different champ everybody, Oh periody period.
Speaker 7 (11:16):
Man.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
It's if that Bucks.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
Series was not memorable, right, this what could potentially not
be and you just kind of go down the line
of what we had and it's like, Okay, you kind
of need that star power that you kind of need
those rivalries to make it.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Man, remember they big the Woo that was crazy that coming.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
Right now, it's just their buzz saw on everybody with
a bunch of really nice guys who are not identifiable.
They could walk in Walmart and you'd be like, oh,
who was that, Oh that's oh, that's okay, that's that one. Yeah,
that's career lift. Caruso put a hat on you. But
you wouldn't even know them. So they gonna have to
have what They're gonna have to have a couple crazy
(11:55):
games in this Western Conference finals, and then if they
get to the finals, they're gonna have to have a
crazy finished with the Knicks or the Pacers.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
Where it became epic because as of right now it's like, oh, yeah,
the under that one Thunder team that won.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
But Rob g he's still on board with the Thunder.
You got issues with us?
Speaker 6 (12:11):
Yeah, and I was late to the party immediately.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
No, I know, I've seen your Twitter.
Speaker 6 (12:16):
Of course they all thanks for following me, Rob, I
appreciate it. Follow Yeah, Dub, don't follow me. What's funny
is you guys are saying they're blowing everybody out, and
that's the problem. No, I'm just like they're so good
and that nothing's competitive, and because of that, I can
view him as a great team.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
I know.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
It just feels weird, like Rob G, like, give me
their big win that they had over somebody where you
were like, well, how impressive, because even the game seven
against Denver was a blowout, so you didn't even have
that moment with Shaye Right had to make a great shot.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
So they know what making like.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
Seriously, they are that they are absolutely a victim of
their own success because their BUZZSA and everybody there is
nothing compelling.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Rob G.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
Don't come in here with these stats and facts and
then don't for get the statue just told us a
couple of days ago, twenty four percent uh drop in
the West.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
But there you go.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
That's that's an indictment of this team because nobody cares
about them. Right when you're watching something that's so great
and fantastic, you're like, I gotta watch them. Oh my god,
I got what This team is unbelievable, right, and you
don't have that.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
And I feel bad because they're they're exactly if you
I'm an organization, I got a bunch of young, hungry dogs.
They all love each other. They after every interview, it
could be one player. The other ten are behind them
and they're just and they're they're exactly what you want.
They come to work, they play hard, nose, they play defense.
They're all unselfish. But man, go ahead and hit the
snooze on my alarm clockers.
Speaker 6 (13:40):
Oh all right, so let me put a ball on
this then, So before we get to the calls, we
got a lot of cars want to weigh in on this.
If this season ends like we expect, like we're saying,
before they continue on this trend, they have the highest
point differential, regulars and posting and they win the championship.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
You guys don't think they're all time greats.
Speaker 6 (13:56):
But if they come back the second year and they struggle,
but they end up beating Luka Doncs in round one,
they beat Steph Curry in round two, they beat who
I don't know, and that again, don't say the Lakers whatever. Okay,
so they beat them and then they go and beat uh,
I don't think with Cleveland. You know, they beat Donovan
(14:18):
Mitchell or they be Giannis whoever. Right, But they struggle.
Every series is a grinding out. Every series of six games,
there's nothing, there's no blowouts. You would be more impressed
by that run than you have been by this.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Yes, because not only it would be two things twofold
that it wasn't a one off, right, because I even't
think even though the Pistons didn't win the second year
in two thousand and five, them getting back to the
finals I think made people.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Would you agree with me, like like this was a
good team.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
It wasn't just Shaq and Kobe were fighting, because they
they went the next year.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
And almost took out that Spurs team who was yeah,
it's a lost in game.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
They went back to them, went back to San Antonio,
won a game six after that heartbreaking loss, right with
Robert rri they won Game six, force to Game seven
and lost by four points or whatever it was four
or five points in Game seven on the road. I
think that that would help them if they did a
second year.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
And I would argue even in losses that O fourteen
had epic loss like Lebron had to go crazy twenty
five straight. You know, they had battles with that that
Boston team. So you need those rob g because they
make you their endearing. If not, it's just this one
random team that just came in out the blue and
won something.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
You're like, oh yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
All right, eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven,
seven nine nine six sixty three sixty nine. If OKC
winds up winning the title, will they be remembered as
an all time great team. We'll continue that conversation next
with you. It is The Odd Couple, Rob Parker, Kelvin
Washington right here on Fox Sports Radio, Stick and Stay America.
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She is Spectrum LA sports host and reporter, also covered
the Thunder for some years. Was there for Western Conference
Game one. We're gonna talk to her a bit, get
an insight on what's happening there. And speaking of the Thunder,
we're having a conversation Rob and I. Rob G gave
us all the stats. This Thunder team looks like they
may be one of the all time grace by the
point margin, how bad they're beating everybody and all of that. Defensively,
(16:57):
they're incredible. But to me, to Rob, not going to
be a memorable, iconic forever team, even though they'll set
a bunch of records, because we need a lot more.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
What do you say? Eight seven, seven ninety nine on
Fox we got.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
All right MJ in New Orleans joined the odd couple
of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
What's up, MJ?
Speaker 8 (17:15):
It's going on to benye brothers.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
Huh yes, sir day all right, this is.
Speaker 8 (17:21):
One of them occurrences.
Speaker 9 (17:22):
But you guys both agree, and I gotta roll with
rap G.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Man, come on, the things are bad right now, you're slumming.
Go ahead of you with Rob G.
Speaker 9 (17:31):
I'm just saying, come on, non okay, When was winning
or when did that become boring? Okay, see some mothering
their opponents with that defense. No nickname for FGA. They're
not a dynamic duo.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
Whatever.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
Stop asking these question, MJ. And answer these questions. You
know I ain't no dynamic duo. And you know Sga
is not on that level of memorability quite yet. He's
very good. He could play on my team any day.
But the question, it's memorable, iconic one of those teams
and that they won't be.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Me.
Speaker 8 (18:06):
Let me find in Sad and Westbrook and the best
one shining moment before trading Harden and keeping Kendrick Perkins,
and it's almost five points. You don't become historic before
making history.
Speaker 9 (18:20):
Then it sources its way out.
Speaker 8 (18:22):
That's what you gotta roll with.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Yeah, but that team made it to the championship. Let's
not act like they didn't.
Speaker 8 (18:29):
We're not doing the Lebron James second place thing.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
No, no, no, But I'm just saying that it was
a young team.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Come on, you gotta and watch this, MJ.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
Even if the Thunder team, if this Thunder team wins
the championship twenty years from now, I'll say, man, remember
that Thunder team you're gonna think of Kad Russell Harden.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
That's exactly what will happen. Oh yeah, no, no, no, the
one that actually want to chang. Oh yeah, I remember
that one, that one.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
What do yeah?
Speaker 4 (18:54):
Oh what's that again? Sag sag? No, that was that
Ga Drew in New Jersey.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
You're in the couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Drew?
Speaker 7 (19:03):
Hey.
Speaker 10 (19:03):
I think that if they win a championship, it's gonna
be memborable, just like it's memorable that KWHI won in Toronto.
So I don't believe that. Also, this would be the
first champion to win without a top twenty player Jamal
Murray was the top twenty player when Yogic won it.
And congratulations to the deserving MVT. No issues, no questions
(19:26):
with ash hold On.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
I'm glad you Drew.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
I'm glad you brought up what you said with Toronto
because you wasn't listening to Professor Washington's checklist. I said,
you have to have another one of the things that
make you iconic. You have to have beat an all
time team if you're not going to be a star
Layton team like the Thunder or not. You brought up
that Raptors team number one. They had clutch moments. We
off what do we talk about? Kawhi shot that right
(19:50):
on in. You'll never forget that. That was the iconic moment.
Also on my checklist. And also who do they beat?
They beat the Warriors, who had been running.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Well.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
But when the Warriors won their first championship.
Speaker 10 (20:06):
Kevin played like a quarter.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 10 (20:10):
Their entire team, Their entire team was completely depleted.
Speaker 11 (20:15):
When the Warriors won. No, Kevin Love was hurt and
so was Kyrie. We could play that game all day.
What are you talking about? We could play that all day.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
And it doesn't matter, Drew, because the point is they
beat the Warriors.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
You're getting into semanthon.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
My point is the Warriors.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
That's like they beat the Warriors who are out there.
Speaker 5 (20:34):
How do you want Drew, Drew, Drew, I'm not Drew.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
Let me actually tell you. I'm not arguing with you.
Speaker 5 (20:42):
They were injured, but my point is they still beat
that team, and on the way there, you had an
iconic shot that broke the heart of Philadelphia. My point
is they check off these these lists, and that's why
you need something. If they beat the Pacers, they beating
the Thunder this year, what will there necessarily.
Speaker 10 (20:57):
Be the beat then? Is that more impressive than beating
a hobbled Warriors team? Is that more impressive?
Speaker 6 (21:03):
Here?
Speaker 1 (21:04):
The Nick seven won a championship to nineteen seventy three.
Speaker 10 (21:07):
Really, we'll be there.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Nobody's talking about ratings, and what we're talking about.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Is totally different.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
You can see the last point.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
People will watch police chases in LA for hours. You
ain't lying about okay, so tell me about ratings and
Drew last point, Radio, We don't act like the MVP
was not playing. Steph was meaning the MVP won two
in the last three or four MVPs back then, y'all
gotta stop acting like Steph being out there.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Come on now, come on now, he don't matter.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
All right, Drew, thank you for the call.
Speaker 5 (21:41):
On the way, Nikki k Spectrum LA sports hosts and reporter,
we'll talk some Thunder where her used to cover the
Thunders with that game one of the Western Conference finals.
Right now, Steve Sega is gonna get us West trending.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple
with Rob Parker and kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm
Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the
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Speaker 5 (22:02):
It's Theakkaba Rob Parker, Kelvin Washington on a funky flashback Friday,
and we are joined now by my homegirl, Nicki k
Spectrum Sports Net LA.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
Of course she is covering the Sparks. She used to
cover the Thunder.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
She's a host and a reporter, and she was at
Game one of the Western Conference Finals.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
Nikki, what's up girl?
Speaker 7 (22:21):
Kelvin? It it took me talking about the Thunder for
you to invite me on your show.
Speaker 10 (22:26):
What is this?
Speaker 5 (22:26):
This is blasphemous, blasphemous, I say, you and Alex Curry
always on here, y'all having fun?
Speaker 7 (22:33):
No, no, it's a pleasure, in a privilege to be
joining you, gentlemen, on this fine Friday afternoon. And how
about this final four in the NBA Conference Finals? Picture right?
I mean, I hate to say it, but the Thunder
looked by far and away the best team remaining in
the Oklahoma City, could be celebrating its very first NBA
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championship in about a couple weeks time.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
Here.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Well, I'm sure people are looking at it that way,
even though still got to play it out.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
They have been impressive.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
What's been the most impressive thing to you as far
as them taking on the Timberwolves, because I thought the
Timberwolves would give them, you know what I mean, a
little bit of battle, especially with ant Man, but it
really hasn't been that rub.
Speaker 7 (23:18):
That's such a good point, you know. I was there
at the Paycom Center formerly the Peak in Oklahoma City
and just observing for the environment and as a fan
of basketball, especially with what it means to that city.
And in the first two quarters I fired off a
text to someone else who covered the NBA, and I
was like, I think Minnesota's length could be giving Oklahoma
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City some trouble and their size, But then you just
look at at the way this team responds, how deep,
how multiple they are, and the most impressive thing to
me is the defense. And when you when you look
at the likes of someone like Alex Caru Caruso, who's
punk Caruso in that locker room at the right bay
of thirty one years old, I believe it's remarkable. But
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this team is relentless and they're all in, so I
think I think they're just too much for the Timberwolves
to handle. I wouldn't be surprised if Minnesota, you know
about one of the two at their home. But I
think Okse's going to handle business. Uh, it should help
remain intact, obviously.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
Nikki, let me ask you this. You spent some years there,
you were covering this team. It's a small city, it's
a small town. It's not your traditional LA New York Chicago.
What what Let's assume you're right and they win. What
would it be like for that city, that town to
be you know, finally, hey, exercise the demons of Katie
Hard and Russ Well.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
They can never get it done.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
What would it be Would it be a real big
parade on would it be like when the Rams won
the Super Bowl here and it was in a parking lot?
Speaker 7 (24:46):
Listen, the entire city would would shut down? And here's
here's my experience. I grew up in southern California and
my first professional team I covered was the Thunder. And
to paint the picture, that's it. You got Oklahoma football,
You've got Oklahoma State football a little bit more removed,
and then you have the Oklahoma City Thunder and this
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this franchise means everything to this city. There's flags waving
on every building. You know, the tallest building in town
is lit ablaze with Thunder colors. And what the agony
they've experienced from coming so close with a young core
in the likes of Harden, Westbrook and Durant. And then
you know, Sam Presty until the Donjitch trade might have
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had the worst trade in NBA history. Dealing away hardened.
But then the heartbreak of losing Kevin Durant. My fourth
of July and Okase was spent covering the departure of KD.
And so this is a city whose pride and identity
revolves around the likes of the Thunder. And I was
in the building for that Western Conference Finals game when
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Klay Thompson just dashed the hopes of Thunder fans. It
couldn't make from three right, and the Thunder saw their
title hope slip away at the hands of the Warriors.
And someone looked at me and said, this team will
never be in the Western Conference Finals again. And that
was in twenty sixteen, and here we are. It took
them nine years, but they're back, and they look they
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look like a threat, not just for this year but
for years to come, especially when you consider the picks
that Presty has been hoarding. So I like the looks
of this team, not just for right now, but for
the coming years.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Yeah, that's always the hardest thing is to be able
to put it together because of the NBA if they win,
what is that seven years in a row or with
different champions, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Like, it's harder now than ever.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Before because teams are always reloading adding people. What if
Giannis is added to the Western Conference to a team,
do you know what I mean?
Speaker 10 (26:56):
Right?
Speaker 3 (26:56):
That automatically will put them in the mix if that happens.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Yet, there's a lot going on there SGA just talk
about him and you know a lot of the flopping
and stuff. People are getting to watch a lot more
and all of a sudden, it's like, you know, they
saw the numbers all year, but they're getting a better
view of him.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
And some people don't like it. They think that it
takes away from the game.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
Some people.
Speaker 7 (27:23):
Here's the thing, Well I am, I don't. It's not
pretty basketball.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
That's that's what I'm saying, And that's what people are saying.
Speaker 7 (27:30):
I think, to your point, Rob, the biggest gripe that
you could have with someone like SGA is that he
doesn't need to do that right. He doesn't need to
be right because he is that talented and the depth
of this team is can support him without getting you know,
without doing it the ugly way. But here's what I
can say about shay uh just especially him being in
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the spotlight that he's been winning MVP over this past week.
You see what he's done for his teammates, buying them
all rolexes. You you see them all showing up with
Shaye MVP T shirts, and then you hear the speech
about his wife where he's emotional, And what I can
tell you is that is one hundred percent authentic. It's genuine,
and you'd be hard pressed to find a core of
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a teammates and the chemistry and the love that they
have for each other. I was talking with someone in
the organization when I was there, and I said, you know,
how does it compare to when Russell and kag you
were here, Because at the time that was all that
city knew, and you you know, heard them things praises
about Russell Westbrook. But this person within the franchise told me, like,
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it's it's a whole new evolution of these guys who
you know, they don't even look outward when they're on
the road. They hang with each other, they love each other.
And I just think when you have a leader as
humble and loving like Shay Gildess Alexander's, it's really hard
to I mean, the game's letting him do it, right,
like that's what it Well they are now, right, right,
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so then change it. But I think he's still going
to be talented whether or not. You know, that's that's
the way he scores.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
So I get it.
Speaker 7 (29:07):
I get it. It's not pretty and it's not fun,
But for right now, the man's the MVP, and and
I'm gonna I'm gonna sing his praises and instead of
pick apart, you know where he's found the cheat code.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
I guess all right, well, Nick, you will get you
out of here on this one real quick. If there's
a team right now in the East, I know you
think they're gonna win it all. But the one of
the teams that you say give him a tougher time,
is it the Knicks of the Pacers.
Speaker 7 (29:33):
Oh it's so hard, but I mean I've been hoping
for a Knicks Thunder finals. But I mean, when you
saw the Pacers deliver in that iconic game one that
we were treated to earlier this week. I don't think
you can go wrong. And to your guys' point, like
what seven different champions in the last seven years, Like
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there's parody is back in the NBA. So I think
I think we're lucky. And you look at the small
market teams on display from Minnesota to Okce to Indiana.
But but give me the next give me the Knicks
fans in the final that that city, that city is
just too fun to rule out. At this point, I've been,
you know. And also I love all the chalame court
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side content. That's what I got to tell you. The
truth of the matter is all right.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
Well, I'm waiting on here with three Thank you, Nicky,
appreciate you.
Speaker 7 (30:25):
Thank you much, Love you guys much, love you guys.
Great day.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
Owed doubt Margo Nicky k there. Uh No, I don't
want on his parody though, I'll pass the parody. Give
me some superstardom, give me some of that. It's too
much parody, too much parody. I want some familiarity. All right,
we got Shador Sanders. Could he be QB one? Well
answer next, it's the yaka Fox Sports Radio.
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Speaker 5 (31:02):
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in Cleveland. There is a quarterback, you can say, a
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farm of them. They got a slew a quarterbacks there
and they don't know exactly who they're gonna start.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
Right now.
Speaker 5 (31:49):
You can say Kenny Pickens kind of has the inside track,
but also have Joe Flacco, approven veteran who actually got
them to the playoffs not too long ago. They have
Dylan Gabriel who they drafted in third round from Oregon,
and then they have Shador Sanders.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
Who they got obviously in the fifth round. There.
Speaker 5 (32:05):
So conversation is you got their head coach Kevin Stefanski
had a conversation ESP and Cleveland there and it's what
he had to say when ask about Shador.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Shudur is a great kid and whether it's a following
that that he's earned.
Speaker 12 (32:19):
I mean that's something that he's done a great job
of of interacting with fans and but he is a great,
great kid. He's working like crazy, just like all the guys.
He's another young man, these rookies. You know, my office
is downstairs. As they got to walk by my office
as they come in. They come in early, and Shador
just like all those guys, he's in there early. He's
getting his work done. So he's working really really hard. Yeah,
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I like everything there is about you.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
So basically he didn't say anything.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
I mean.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
He's just being nice. What was there that? There's nothing
there yet. And there's a couple of things to me
when I hear that. A.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Everything is against him as far as like him being
the starting quarterback, right because you traded for Kenny Pickett, right,
he gave up something for him.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
You just talked about the veteran quarterback.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Joe Flaco, right, who you know, who had who helped
them in the postseason, correct, got them to the postseason.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
So he's there.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
If anybody, Flacco would be the guy you could probably
get away and get away with getting rid of if
you decide that you want to see more of the
younger guys. And then Gabriel was what drafted ahead of
Shador correct third, Yeah, yep, so so unless so, I
just don't have confidence in Cleveland that they're gonna get
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it right quarterback wise, because they have it, you know
what I mean, in a long time, they really haven't.
Even when they went out and they thought they had
hit the jackpot and everybody else didn't want to show
on Watson, right, and they thought, we'll double back open
the back door, he'll get in, you know what I mean,
and we'll be great, And that blew up in their face.
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But the only way I could see Chador. Really being
the starting quarterback of the Browns is if he does
a Russell Wilson where he shows up. He's so dynamic,
you know what I mean that the plans that they
had that they eat the picks that they gave up
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for picket, you know, basically, and just said we just
can't ignore it, because you remember we talked about it.
They got the quarterback from the package you remember with
the big deal, uh for for Seattle, and they just
the floor.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
No, no, no, I don't know why. Matt Flynn. Matt Flynn.
Matt Flynn.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
They got Matt Flynn, you remember that, and that was huge,
a big contract. He he had torched the Lions. You
remember that he torched the Lions in the last game.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
It was six.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Yeah, he was a right fromost sunounds in the game.
But the point was that they couldn't ignore it, do
you know what I mean? Russell Wilson, and they made
a move even though it wasn't it didn't make any
sense financially, they just felt like they had a quarterback.
That's the only way I could see it, because he
has to jump over too many people. If he's just
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regular or average or like those guys.
Speaker 5 (35:24):
Well, you brought up something I was going to bring
up in that example with Matt Flann getting out played
by Russell Wilson.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
And I think there's something too.
Speaker 5 (35:33):
Every offseason we hear about, oh man, there's that quarterback.
It might have been a young guy that's got that
pop in his arm. They didn't know until they saw
it live. They're like, oh shoot, or that young guy
that they didn't expect the team to get behind. Or
and sometimes not even a young guy. It could be
they brought in a guy to be a backup. Maybe
he's a veteran. They're like, oh shoot, we might have
to get this guy in here. And I think if
Shaduor continues to show them.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
A couple of things.
Speaker 5 (35:55):
One work ethic, right, you show up, you just get there,
you work hard, you keep your head down too. If
the locker room starts buying in, like, hey, man, coach,
and I know, I'm just you know, a second string
tight end, or hey I'm just you know, second string
wide out. But if I had to say, I'm loving
what Shador is doing, not only on the field, but
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I'm loving leadership. I'm loving his confidence and I want
to get behind that guy. If you start getting enough
veterans doing that, because listen, kid, do you really buy it?
Kenny Pikett, like that, is he really the guy? You're like, Oh,
this is the guy right here? And Joe Flacco, you know,
he's a solid backup. But that's where I would like
to keep him as a solid backup, and I'd rather
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ride with a guy like your door.
Speaker 4 (36:38):
He maybe it's Gabriel, you know, yeody, But that's my.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Thing is that you're jumping over if they really they
passed on him five times, is what I'm saying to you.
I hear your point, and I think you had that
argument in Pittsburgh with Justin Fields, that the team was
rallying around him or whatever. And that sounds good and
you could be pulling form, but at some point it
is about, you know, can you produce?
Speaker 3 (37:02):
Can you can you do?
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Who gives us the best chance? And at some point
it does come down to that. And I'm not saying
he can't be that guy, but he can't be on
par with them. He'd have to be so much better
that they'd have to jump, is what I'm saying. That's
all I'm saying is that he have to wow them
for them to make that move.
Speaker 5 (37:23):
I think he only has to be better than one
guy like that, much better. I think if he's on
par with Kenny Pickett, I think if he's Joe Black
or you don't think he jumps over Gabriel. That's where
I was about to say, he's the one guy he
has to be better than. I think if he's on
power with Picket, and I think if he's on par
with Flacco, because literally, we all know exactly what Joe
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Flacco is, a great backup to have on your team,
a great veteran presence.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
There you have it.
Speaker 5 (37:51):
He's not your future, You're not going far with him,
but you know, great to have him in the tank
right breaking case of emergency.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
So to me, if I I'm watching him and if he.
Speaker 5 (38:02):
Because again remember just a month ago we had him
higher than Dylan Grabriel.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
So it's not like Dylan Gabriel was this pick that.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
All but not but not the NFL didn't havehim hard.
Speaker 4 (38:12):
But maybe you do. I still don't know that I
buy that, Rob because when you see.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
Too many people, there's too many people passed on him.
Speaker 4 (38:18):
You keep saying, I don't remember Gabriel. Dylan Gabriel being
up there.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
I'm just talking about the idea that everybody passed on shador.
I mean, there's just too many there's too many people
who passed on him for it to be.
Speaker 4 (38:31):
If I'm him.
Speaker 5 (38:32):
I still feel like I got a shot, and I'm
sure everybody on the roster does too, but I feel
like I would if I'm him.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
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Coming up Nikki k from Spectrum La Yeah Sports. She's
a host and a reporter. We'll talk with her coming
up in about twenty eight minutes.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Cover the Thunder for a while.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
And now here in La Yeah Thunder. I'm just it's
not like a lot of people cover the Thunder. I mean, right,
there's not that many.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
They're real tight knitche to Brown there. How they do it,
they don't really, it's not a lot of people. They
don't kind of let everybody into their world. And so
she covered them for a while and actually was at
Western Conference game one. She was at game one of
the Western Conference finals. So very well connected with the team.
Get us some suit us there for what reason, just
to hang out, just be there. Yeah, just still connected
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to the you know how it goes, Still connected to
the team, still connected to other people or in the organization.
So she'll give us some good insight on what's going
on up over there.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
And oh, Kate c all right, Rob do you have
a lot of numbers on the Thunder here?
Speaker 3 (02:19):
And and you.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Could probably paint the picture of just what they've put together.
I mean, I just it's almost like hard to watch
their games because they're so lopsided. It just doesn't even
And I know it sounds ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
But what you want me to do?
Speaker 1 (02:33):
I don't want them to but I'm saying from a
from a viewer standpoint, you know what I mean. I
just like every game is a blowout, like I just
I just be like what Okay, But they put together
some impressive numbers this year, and it's hard not to
argue that they, arguably, numbers wise, one of the best.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Teams in the NBA all the time.
Speaker 6 (02:54):
Guys, I'm gonna I'm gonna read you some facts and
I'm gonna let you get in your feelings. Okay, Okay,
So the Oklahoma City don't know the OKC thunder. First off,
they got the MVP SGA just won yesterday, First Team
All NBA. They also have a thirty team All NBA
guy on their roster, Jalen William J. Dubb named thirteen
All NBA today. Those are the two big guns, big.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Stars in their team.
Speaker 6 (03:17):
During the regular season, we all knew this. OKC had
the largest point differential in NBA history twelve point nine.
They had the best record any team has ever had
against an opposing conference. They were twenty nine to one.
They broke the record for the most double digit wins
in a season.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Why, that's that's what I'm This is what I'm talking
about about the type of games and wins that they had.
Speaker 6 (03:41):
The fifth most wins total in a regular season a
sixty eight. Okay, that was in the regular season. But
even still, I know you guys, I personally wasn't weren't
real big believers in them coming into the playoffs, right,
we all had other teams that we would have picked before, OKC.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
In the postseason.
Speaker 6 (03:59):
Now, they have already outscored their opponents by one two
hundred and thirty eight points. Okay, the in the concluding
the regular seat in the postseason. That is the most
by any team through ninety five games of a season,
any team.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Ever.
Speaker 6 (04:15):
After beating the Wolves in Game two by fifteen points,
they now have accumulated sixty wins this season by at
least fifteen points.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
That ties Steph Cady Warriors for the most in a history.
Speaker 6 (04:30):
And they have at least six games to go, all right,
and here's the last one in the playoffs. Of course,
this number can go up and down. Obviously, they got
more games to play. They currently own the best point
differential plus one thousand, two thirty eight of any team
in NBA history, not just this decade, not just in
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the two thousands. Ever, guys, when you have a red
like that, here's the question. If they continue on this track,
they win at the clip that they've been winning, nothing
more and nothing less. They're just doing what they've always done.
This season, they win the championship, will they be remembered
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as one of the greatest teams in NBA history?
Speaker 1 (05:18):
That's this is simple, No way, no how, I don't
even care. You could read numbers till the cows come home,
Rob g and I hear them, and they're impressive on paper.
But when you look at the team and other than SGA,
and maybe you.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Know, you're like, like who else?
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Like seriously, Kelvin, I just wouldn't be able to endorse
that that this team is the greatest team in NBA history.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
I just could. I think it's has more to do
with where we.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Are, what kind of game that's played, you know what
I mean, like the style of play which has helped
of course in threes and then when you make threes,
and the kind of scores and all that. But I
don't know, I don't have that feel for that team
to think I'm watching the greatest team in NBA history.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
I don't do you not at all, Rob Parker.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
As matter of fact, I'm going Professor Washington on y'all
butts on this one here and Robby, stop killing me
with analytics. All right, I don't want you. I don't
want to take that for data. I don't want that.
Right now, Let's talk about a few things on my
checklist which would make you an iconic or a memorable team,
all right, number one, and they don't check many, really
any of these boxes. You gotta have a star on
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your team who has a real nickname, not just some initials. Okay, Sga,
that's easy. I need some nicknames up and I need
some air. Jordan's up in there, Okay, I need a
Haquen to dream up in there. Okay, I need something.
I need a big Ben Wallace. You gotta give me something.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
He's from Canada. He wears soft, comfortable shoes. What do
you want from him?
Speaker 5 (06:54):
That's what he better give me something else. Rob if
he's trying to be with rob g is trying to
sell us on let me can You gotta have also
a team that hasn't identifier. What I mean is you
gotta be the bad Boys. You gotta be the Showtime Lakers.
You gotta be the Detroit Basketball. You gotta give me
the Heatles. You gotta give me something. They're just the
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thunder that's it. They're just the thunder that and there's
nothing member about Remember Rob, remember that one team, well
the thunder Like what Usually great teams have some type
of moniker, some type of name around them, all right,
And then what Rob was saying, you gotta have a
Batman and a Robin. Okay, you gotta have two great players.
They have sga and and Jalen. I guess he's Jayleen.
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I guess he's pretty good.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
I' you know.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
You gotta have a shock in Kobe, a Kareem in
Magic a Bird and McHale. You gotta have something like
that on your team. They got it's like McDonald's right,
they got the big Mac. They ain't got no quarter ponder.
Matter of fact, Rob, you know how you go there
and they only got the two cheeseburger option mil like you,
I guess, but you came in for the big Mac.
You came in for the quarter ponder with cheeze. They
ain't even got it. And then also you have to
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have iconic moments. The problem is what Rob was saying,
you can't just keep blowing everybody out. I need close games,
close finishes, Robert, or hit some big shots to push
you to the next round.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
You gotta have iconic moments, iconic wins. They don't have them.
Speaker 5 (08:16):
Or you have to at least beating all time great
team right, that would make you. You see that even
in college basketball, when villanov Will beat Georgetown, When NC
State beat Houston, right, you're like, oh, no way this
can happen. When Dallas beat the Heatles with dirt, You're like,
they're way, they're beating them. So you have to have
some iconic moments, some big games. You got to have
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big names on the team. You got to have a
team that has an identifier what you are, show time Heatles,
bad boys.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
They don't have any of that. They just got a bunch.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
Of really good basketball players that are deep, and you're like,
they do line changes. Just four or five different guys
come in and they're great and they're good basketball. They're
probably gonna win it all, but nothing will make it
iconic or memorable.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
And here's the other thing.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
They have another team in front of them that people
would identify with or.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Idolize even more, and they didn't win anything.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Remember the Thunder had three young players who all wind
up going to win MVPs in Westbrook, Harden and KD.
They went to a finals. Let's not forget that they
did go to a fire. They didn't win, but they
went to the finals. And that's legendary that they had
those three players there at one time. Think about it, right,
(09:38):
like that team is more identifiable, more acclaimed, even though
there's no champions and obviously Okayse hasn't won yet. You know,
we don't, we don't know what's gonna happen, but I
think there's a team in front of them.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
It reminds me.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
He reminds me of that OKAC team being kind of
like the Fab Five where they never won anything but iconic.
You know them, You remember, remember they did this, Remember
they had this Oh man, what could have been?
Speaker 4 (10:06):
What could have been? And at least there's something.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
That's why the Fab five still is so endeared, Like
there's something there. You want what never won and what
could have been? And that Thunder team is like that.
You had three mv future MVPs. You had this great
team six Man of the Year and Harden and Westbrook
is an All Star top ten player at the time,
and Katie and MVP.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
You know, man, what could have been?
Speaker 5 (10:27):
But at least again, they had the Batman in the Robin,
they even had another one, you know what I mean,
and six Man of the Year, So you had so
many things that you know, is unbelievable without a doubt.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Like I was like, who is this guy like on
the bench?
Speaker 4 (10:41):
Right? So that's a good pull there.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
They remind me of the Fab Five, and at least
you still think about them, talk about them. Whereas this
team if they win this year, I don't know why
you would bring it up.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
It could be a one off.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
It really, it really could be.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
And I know that's unfair because they've had such a
great year, but I could see them being a one
off where you know, everything kind of worked out and
they play really well together and they won a championship,
but they don't string any of them, you know what
I mean, any other championships, and that.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
That's the issue to me, that's the issue with this
seven years of a different champ everybody, Oh periody period.
Speaker 7 (11:16):
Man.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
It's if that Bucks.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
Series was not memorable, right, this what could potentially not
be and you just kind of go down the line
of what we had and it's like, Okay, you kind
of need that star power that you kind of need
those rivalries to make it.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Man, remember they big the Woo that was crazy that coming.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
Right now, it's just their buzz saw on everybody with
a bunch of really nice guys who are not identifiable.
They could walk in Walmart and you'd be like, oh,
who was that, Oh that's oh, that's okay, that's that one. Yeah,
that's career lift. Caruso put a hat on you. But
you wouldn't even know them. So they gonna have to
have what They're gonna have to have a couple crazy
(11:55):
games in this Western Conference finals, and then if they
get to the finals, they're gonna have to have a
crazy finished with the Knicks or the Pacers.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
Where it became epic because as of right now it's like, oh, yeah,
the under that one Thunder team that won.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
But Rob g he's still on board with the Thunder.
You got issues with us?
Speaker 6 (12:11):
Yeah, and I was late to the party immediately.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
No, I know, I've seen your Twitter.
Speaker 6 (12:16):
Of course they all thanks for following me, Rob, I
appreciate it. Follow Yeah, Dub, don't follow me. What's funny
is you guys are saying they're blowing everybody out, and
that's the problem. No, I'm just like they're so good
and that nothing's competitive, and because of that, I can
view him as a great team.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
I know.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
It just feels weird, like Rob G, like, give me
their big win that they had over somebody where you
were like, well, how impressive, because even the game seven
against Denver was a blowout, so you didn't even have
that moment with Shaye Right had to make a great shot.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
So they know what making like.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
Seriously, they are that they are absolutely a victim of
their own success because their BUZZSA and everybody there is
nothing compelling.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Rob G.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
Don't come in here with these stats and facts and
then don't for get the statue just told us a
couple of days ago, twenty four percent uh drop in
the West.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
But there you go.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
That's that's an indictment of this team because nobody cares
about them. Right when you're watching something that's so great
and fantastic, you're like, I gotta watch them. Oh my god,
I got what This team is unbelievable, right, and you
don't have that.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
And I feel bad because they're they're exactly if you
I'm an organization, I got a bunch of young, hungry dogs.
They all love each other. They after every interview, it
could be one player. The other ten are behind them
and they're just and they're they're exactly what you want.
They come to work, they play hard, nose, they play defense.
They're all unselfish. But man, go ahead and hit the
snooze on my alarm clockers.
Speaker 6 (13:40):
Oh all right, so let me put a ball on
this then, So before we get to the calls, we
got a lot of cars want to weigh in on this.
If this season ends like we expect, like we're saying,
before they continue on this trend, they have the highest
point differential, regulars and posting and they win the championship.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
You guys don't think they're all time greats.
Speaker 6 (13:56):
But if they come back the second year and they struggle,
but they end up beating Luka Doncs in round one,
they beat Steph Curry in round two, they beat who
I don't know, and that again, don't say the Lakers whatever. Okay,
so they beat them and then they go and beat uh,
I don't think with Cleveland. You know, they beat Donovan
(14:18):
Mitchell or they be Giannis whoever. Right, But they struggle.
Every series is a grinding out. Every series of six games,
there's nothing, there's no blowouts. You would be more impressed
by that run than you have been by this.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Yes, because not only it would be two things twofold
that it wasn't a one off, right, because I even't
think even though the Pistons didn't win the second year
in two thousand and five, them getting back to the
finals I think made people.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Would you agree with me, like like this was a
good team.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
It wasn't just Shaq and Kobe were fighting, because they
they went the next year.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
And almost took out that Spurs team who was yeah,
it's a lost in game.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
They went back to them, went back to San Antonio,
won a game six after that heartbreaking loss, right with
Robert rri they won Game six, force to Game seven
and lost by four points or whatever it was four
or five points in Game seven on the road. I
think that that would help them if they did a
second year.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
And I would argue even in losses that O fourteen
had epic loss like Lebron had to go crazy twenty
five straight. You know, they had battles with that that
Boston team. So you need those rob g because they
make you their endearing. If not, it's just this one
random team that just came in out the blue and
won something.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
You're like, oh yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
All right, eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven,
seven nine nine six sixty three sixty nine. If OKC
winds up winning the title, will they be remembered as
an all time great team. We'll continue that conversation next
with you. It is The Odd Couple, Rob Parker, Kelvin
Washington right here on Fox Sports Radio, Stick and Stay America.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
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Speaker 5 (16:07):
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Speaker 5 (16:34):
She is Spectrum LA sports host and reporter, also covered
the Thunder for some years. Was there for Western Conference
Game one. We're gonna talk to her a bit, get
an insight on what's happening there. And speaking of the Thunder,
we're having a conversation Rob and I. Rob G gave
us all the stats. This Thunder team looks like they
may be one of the all time grace by the
point margin, how bad they're beating everybody and all of that. Defensively,
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they're incredible. But to me, to Rob, not going to
be a memorable, iconic forever team, even though they'll set
a bunch of records, because we need a lot more.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
What do you say? Eight seven, seven ninety nine on
Fox we got.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
All right MJ in New Orleans joined the odd couple
of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
What's up, MJ?
Speaker 8 (17:15):
It's going on to benye brothers.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
Huh yes, sir day all right, this is.
Speaker 8 (17:21):
One of them occurrences.
Speaker 9 (17:22):
But you guys both agree, and I gotta roll with
rap G.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Man, come on, the things are bad right now, you're slumming.
Go ahead of you with Rob G.
Speaker 9 (17:31):
I'm just saying, come on, non okay, When was winning
or when did that become boring? Okay, see some mothering
their opponents with that defense. No nickname for FGA. They're
not a dynamic duo.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
Whatever.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
Stop asking these question, MJ. And answer these questions. You
know I ain't no dynamic duo. And you know Sga
is not on that level of memorability quite yet. He's
very good. He could play on my team any day.
But the question, it's memorable, iconic one of those teams
and that they won't be.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Me.
Speaker 8 (18:06):
Let me find in Sad and Westbrook and the best
one shining moment before trading Harden and keeping Kendrick Perkins,
and it's almost five points. You don't become historic before
making history.
Speaker 9 (18:20):
Then it sources its way out.
Speaker 8 (18:22):
That's what you gotta roll with.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Yeah, but that team made it to the championship. Let's
not act like they didn't.
Speaker 8 (18:29):
We're not doing the Lebron James second place thing.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
No, no, no, But I'm just saying that it was
a young team.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Come on, you gotta and watch this, MJ.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
Even if the Thunder team, if this Thunder team wins
the championship twenty years from now, I'll say, man, remember
that Thunder team you're gonna think of Kad Russell Harden.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
That's exactly what will happen. Oh yeah, no, no, no, the
one that actually want to chang. Oh yeah, I remember
that one, that one.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
What do yeah?
Speaker 4 (18:54):
Oh what's that again? Sag sag? No, that was that
Ga Drew in New Jersey.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
You're in the couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Drew?
Speaker 7 (19:03):
Hey.
Speaker 10 (19:03):
I think that if they win a championship, it's gonna
be memborable, just like it's memorable that KWHI won in Toronto.
So I don't believe that. Also, this would be the
first champion to win without a top twenty player Jamal
Murray was the top twenty player when Yogic won it.
And congratulations to the deserving MVT. No issues, no questions
(19:26):
with ash hold On.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
I'm glad you Drew.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
I'm glad you brought up what you said with Toronto
because you wasn't listening to Professor Washington's checklist. I said,
you have to have another one of the things that
make you iconic. You have to have beat an all
time team if you're not going to be a star
Layton team like the Thunder or not. You brought up
that Raptors team number one. They had clutch moments. We
off what do we talk about? Kawhi shot that right
(19:50):
on in. You'll never forget that. That was the iconic moment.
Also on my checklist. And also who do they beat?
They beat the Warriors, who had been running.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Well.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
But when the Warriors won their first championship.
Speaker 10 (20:06):
Kevin played like a quarter.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 10 (20:10):
Their entire team, Their entire team was completely depleted.
Speaker 11 (20:15):
When the Warriors won. No, Kevin Love was hurt and
so was Kyrie. We could play that game all day.
What are you talking about? We could play that all day.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
And it doesn't matter, Drew, because the point is they
beat the Warriors.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
You're getting into semanthon.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
My point is the Warriors.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
That's like they beat the Warriors who are out there.
Speaker 5 (20:34):
How do you want Drew, Drew, Drew, I'm not Drew.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
Let me actually tell you. I'm not arguing with you.
Speaker 5 (20:42):
They were injured, but my point is they still beat
that team, and on the way there, you had an
iconic shot that broke the heart of Philadelphia. My point
is they check off these these lists, and that's why
you need something. If they beat the Pacers, they beating
the Thunder this year, what will there necessarily.
Speaker 10 (20:57):
Be the beat then? Is that more impressive than beating
a hobbled Warriors team? Is that more impressive?
Speaker 6 (21:03):
Here?
Speaker 1 (21:04):
The Nick seven won a championship to nineteen seventy three.
Speaker 10 (21:07):
Really, we'll be there.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Nobody's talking about ratings, and what we're talking about.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Is totally different.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
You can see the last point.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
People will watch police chases in LA for hours. You
ain't lying about okay, so tell me about ratings and
Drew last point, Radio, We don't act like the MVP
was not playing. Steph was meaning the MVP won two
in the last three or four MVPs back then, y'all
gotta stop acting like Steph being out there.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Come on now, come on now, he don't matter.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
All right, Drew, thank you for the call.
Speaker 5 (21:41):
On the way, Nikki k Spectrum LA sports hosts and reporter,
we'll talk some Thunder where her used to cover the
Thunders with that game one of the Western Conference finals.
Right now, Steve Sega is gonna get us West trending.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple
with Rob Parker and kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm
Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the
iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
It's Theakkaba Rob Parker, Kelvin Washington on a funky flashback Friday,
and we are joined now by my homegirl, Nicki k
Spectrum Sports Net LA.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
Of course she is covering the Sparks. She used to
cover the Thunder.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
She's a host and a reporter, and she was at
Game one of the Western Conference Finals.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
Nikki, what's up girl?
Speaker 7 (22:21):
Kelvin? It it took me talking about the Thunder for
you to invite me on your show.
Speaker 10 (22:26):
What is this?
Speaker 5 (22:26):
This is blasphemous, blasphemous, I say, you and Alex Curry
always on here, y'all having fun?
Speaker 7 (22:33):
No, no, it's a pleasure, in a privilege to be
joining you, gentlemen, on this fine Friday afternoon. And how
about this final four in the NBA Conference Finals? Picture right?
I mean, I hate to say it, but the Thunder
looked by far and away the best team remaining in
the Oklahoma City, could be celebrating its very first NBA
(22:54):
championship in about a couple weeks time.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
Here.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Well, I'm sure people are looking at it that way,
even though still got to play it out.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
They have been impressive.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
What's been the most impressive thing to you as far
as them taking on the Timberwolves, because I thought the
Timberwolves would give them, you know what I mean, a
little bit of battle, especially with ant Man, but it
really hasn't been that rub.
Speaker 7 (23:18):
That's such a good point, you know. I was there
at the Paycom Center formerly the Peak in Oklahoma City
and just observing for the environment and as a fan
of basketball, especially with what it means to that city.
And in the first two quarters I fired off a
text to someone else who covered the NBA, and I
was like, I think Minnesota's length could be giving Oklahoma
(23:40):
City some trouble and their size, But then you just
look at at the way this team responds, how deep,
how multiple they are, and the most impressive thing to
me is the defense. And when you when you look
at the likes of someone like Alex Caru Caruso, who's
punk Caruso in that locker room at the right bay
of thirty one years old, I believe it's remarkable. But
(24:04):
this team is relentless and they're all in, so I
think I think they're just too much for the Timberwolves
to handle. I wouldn't be surprised if Minnesota, you know
about one of the two at their home. But I
think Okse's going to handle business. Uh, it should help
remain intact, obviously.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
Nikki, let me ask you this. You spent some years there,
you were covering this team. It's a small city, it's
a small town. It's not your traditional LA New York Chicago.
What what Let's assume you're right and they win. What
would it be like for that city, that town to
be you know, finally, hey, exercise the demons of Katie
Hard and Russ Well.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
They can never get it done.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
What would it be Would it be a real big
parade on would it be like when the Rams won
the Super Bowl here and it was in a parking lot?
Speaker 7 (24:46):
Listen, the entire city would would shut down? And here's
here's my experience. I grew up in southern California and
my first professional team I covered was the Thunder. And
to paint the picture, that's it. You got Oklahoma football,
You've got Oklahoma State football a little bit more removed,
and then you have the Oklahoma City Thunder and this
(25:08):
this franchise means everything to this city. There's flags waving
on every building. You know, the tallest building in town
is lit ablaze with Thunder colors. And what the agony
they've experienced from coming so close with a young core
in the likes of Harden, Westbrook and Durant. And then
you know, Sam Presty until the Donjitch trade might have
(25:33):
had the worst trade in NBA history. Dealing away hardened.
But then the heartbreak of losing Kevin Durant. My fourth
of July and Okase was spent covering the departure of KD.
And so this is a city whose pride and identity
revolves around the likes of the Thunder. And I was
in the building for that Western Conference Finals game when
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Klay Thompson just dashed the hopes of Thunder fans. It
couldn't make from three right, and the Thunder saw their
title hope slip away at the hands of the Warriors.
And someone looked at me and said, this team will
never be in the Western Conference Finals again. And that
was in twenty sixteen, and here we are. It took
them nine years, but they're back, and they look they
(26:17):
look like a threat, not just for this year but
for years to come, especially when you consider the picks
that Presty has been hoarding. So I like the looks
of this team, not just for right now, but for
the coming years.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Yeah, that's always the hardest thing is to be able
to put it together because of the NBA if they win,
what is that seven years in a row or with
different champions, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Like, it's harder now than ever.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Before because teams are always reloading adding people. What if
Giannis is added to the Western Conference to a team,
do you know what I mean?
Speaker 10 (26:56):
Right?
Speaker 3 (26:56):
That automatically will put them in the mix if that happens.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Yet, there's a lot going on there SGA just talk
about him and you know a lot of the flopping
and stuff. People are getting to watch a lot more
and all of a sudden, it's like, you know, they
saw the numbers all year, but they're getting a better
view of him.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
And some people don't like it. They think that it
takes away from the game.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
Some people.
Speaker 7 (27:23):
Here's the thing, Well I am, I don't. It's not
pretty basketball.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
That's that's what I'm saying, And that's what people are saying.
Speaker 7 (27:30):
I think, to your point, Rob, the biggest gripe that
you could have with someone like SGA is that he
doesn't need to do that right. He doesn't need to
be right because he is that talented and the depth
of this team is can support him without getting you know,
without doing it the ugly way. But here's what I
can say about shay uh just especially him being in
(27:52):
the spotlight that he's been winning MVP over this past week.
You see what he's done for his teammates, buying them
all rolexes. You you see them all showing up with
Shaye MVP T shirts, and then you hear the speech
about his wife where he's emotional, And what I can
tell you is that is one hundred percent authentic. It's genuine,
and you'd be hard pressed to find a core of
(28:14):
a teammates and the chemistry and the love that they
have for each other. I was talking with someone in
the organization when I was there, and I said, you know,
how does it compare to when Russell and kag you
were here, Because at the time that was all that
city knew, and you you know, heard them things praises
about Russell Westbrook. But this person within the franchise told me, like,
(28:37):
it's it's a whole new evolution of these guys who
you know, they don't even look outward when they're on
the road. They hang with each other, they love each other.
And I just think when you have a leader as
humble and loving like Shay Gildess Alexander's, it's really hard
to I mean, the game's letting him do it, right,
like that's what it Well they are now, right, right,
(29:00):
so then change it. But I think he's still going
to be talented whether or not. You know, that's that's
the way he scores.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
So I get it.
Speaker 7 (29:07):
I get it. It's not pretty and it's not fun,
But for right now, the man's the MVP, and and
I'm gonna I'm gonna sing his praises and instead of
pick apart, you know where he's found the cheat code.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
I guess all right, well, Nick, you will get you
out of here on this one real quick. If there's
a team right now in the East, I know you
think they're gonna win it all. But the one of
the teams that you say give him a tougher time,
is it the Knicks of the Pacers.
Speaker 7 (29:33):
Oh it's so hard, but I mean I've been hoping
for a Knicks Thunder finals. But I mean, when you
saw the Pacers deliver in that iconic game one that
we were treated to earlier this week. I don't think
you can go wrong. And to your guys' point, like
what seven different champions in the last seven years, Like
(29:56):
there's parody is back in the NBA. So I think
I think we're lucky. And you look at the small
market teams on display from Minnesota to Okce to Indiana.
But but give me the next give me the Knicks
fans in the final that that city, that city is
just too fun to rule out. At this point, I've been,
you know. And also I love all the chalame court
(30:18):
side content. That's what I got to tell you. The
truth of the matter is all right.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
Well, I'm waiting on here with three Thank you, Nicky,
appreciate you.
Speaker 7 (30:25):
Thank you much, Love you guys much, love you guys.
Great day.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
Owed doubt Margo Nicky k there. Uh No, I don't
want on his parody though, I'll pass the parody. Give
me some superstardom, give me some of that. It's too
much parody, too much parody. I want some familiarity. All right,
we got Shador Sanders. Could he be QB one? Well
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in Cleveland. There is a quarterback, you can say, a
(31:44):
farm of them. They got a slew a quarterbacks there
and they don't know exactly who they're gonna start.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
Right now.
Speaker 5 (31:49):
You can say Kenny Pickens kind of has the inside track,
but also have Joe Flacco, approven veteran who actually got
them to the playoffs not too long ago. They have
Dylan Gabriel who they drafted in third round from Oregon,
and then they have Shador Sanders.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
Who they got obviously in the fifth round. There.
Speaker 5 (32:05):
So conversation is you got their head coach Kevin Stefanski
had a conversation ESP and Cleveland there and it's what
he had to say when ask about Shador.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Shudur is a great kid and whether it's a following
that that he's earned.
Speaker 12 (32:19):
I mean that's something that he's done a great job
of of interacting with fans and but he is a great,
great kid. He's working like crazy, just like all the guys.
He's another young man, these rookies. You know, my office
is downstairs. As they got to walk by my office
as they come in. They come in early, and Shador
just like all those guys, he's in there early. He's
getting his work done. So he's working really really hard. Yeah,
(32:42):
I like everything there is about you.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
So basically he didn't say anything.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
I mean.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
He's just being nice. What was there that? There's nothing
there yet. And there's a couple of things to me
when I hear that. A.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Everything is against him as far as like him being
the starting quarterback, right because you traded for Kenny Pickett, right,
he gave up something for him.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
You just talked about the veteran quarterback.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Joe Flaco, right, who you know, who had who helped
them in the postseason, correct, got them to the postseason.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
So he's there.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
If anybody, Flacco would be the guy you could probably
get away and get away with getting rid of if
you decide that you want to see more of the
younger guys. And then Gabriel was what drafted ahead of
Shador correct third, Yeah, yep, so so unless so, I
just don't have confidence in Cleveland that they're gonna get
(33:44):
it right quarterback wise, because they have it, you know
what I mean, in a long time, they really haven't.
Even when they went out and they thought they had
hit the jackpot and everybody else didn't want to show
on Watson, right, and they thought, we'll double back open
the back door, he'll get in, you know what I mean,
and we'll be great, And that blew up in their face.
(34:07):
But the only way I could see Chador. Really being
the starting quarterback of the Browns is if he does
a Russell Wilson where he shows up. He's so dynamic,
you know what I mean that the plans that they
had that they eat the picks that they gave up
(34:27):
for picket, you know, basically, and just said we just
can't ignore it, because you remember we talked about it.
They got the quarterback from the package you remember with
the big deal, uh for for Seattle, and they just
the floor.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
No, no, no, I don't know why. Matt Flynn. Matt Flynn.
Matt Flynn.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
They got Matt Flynn, you remember that, and that was huge,
a big contract. He he had torched the Lions. You
remember that he torched the Lions in the last game.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
It was six.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Yeah, he was a right fromost sunounds in the game.
But the point was that they couldn't ignore it, do
you know what I mean? Russell Wilson, and they made
a move even though it wasn't it didn't make any
sense financially, they just felt like they had a quarterback.
That's the only way I could see it, because he
has to jump over too many people. If he's just
(35:19):
regular or average or like those guys.
Speaker 5 (35:24):
Well, you brought up something I was going to bring
up in that example with Matt Flann getting out played
by Russell Wilson.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
And I think there's something too.
Speaker 5 (35:33):
Every offseason we hear about, oh man, there's that quarterback.
It might have been a young guy that's got that
pop in his arm. They didn't know until they saw
it live. They're like, oh shoot, or that young guy
that they didn't expect the team to get behind. Or
and sometimes not even a young guy. It could be
they brought in a guy to be a backup. Maybe
he's a veteran. They're like, oh shoot, we might have
to get this guy in here. And I think if
Shaduor continues to show them.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
A couple of things.
Speaker 5 (35:55):
One work ethic, right, you show up, you just get there,
you work hard, you keep your head down too. If
the locker room starts buying in, like, hey, man, coach,
and I know, I'm just you know, a second string
tight end, or hey I'm just you know, second string
wide out. But if I had to say, I'm loving
what Shador is doing, not only on the field, but
(36:16):
I'm loving leadership. I'm loving his confidence and I want
to get behind that guy. If you start getting enough
veterans doing that, because listen, kid, do you really buy it?
Kenny Pikett, like that, is he really the guy? You're like, Oh,
this is the guy right here? And Joe Flacco, you know,
he's a solid backup. But that's where I would like
to keep him as a solid backup, and I'd rather
(36:36):
ride with a guy like your door.
Speaker 4 (36:38):
He maybe it's Gabriel, you know, yeody, But that's my.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Thing is that you're jumping over if they really they
passed on him five times, is what I'm saying to you.
I hear your point, and I think you had that
argument in Pittsburgh with Justin Fields, that the team was
rallying around him or whatever. And that sounds good and
you could be pulling form, but at some point it
is about, you know, can you produce?
Speaker 3 (37:02):
Can you can you do?
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Who gives us the best chance? And at some point
it does come down to that. And I'm not saying
he can't be that guy, but he can't be on
par with them. He'd have to be so much better
that they'd have to jump, is what I'm saying. That's
all I'm saying is that he have to wow them
for them to make that move.
Speaker 5 (37:23):
I think he only has to be better than one
guy like that, much better. I think if he's on
par with Kenny Pickett, I think if he's Joe Black
or you don't think he jumps over Gabriel. That's where
I was about to say, he's the one guy he
has to be better than. I think if he's on
power with Picket, and I think if he's on par
with Flacco, because literally, we all know exactly what Joe
(37:46):
Flacco is, a great backup to have on your team,
a great veteran presence.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
There you have it.
Speaker 5 (37:51):
He's not your future, You're not going far with him,
but you know, great to have him in the tank
right breaking case of emergency.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
So to me, if I I'm watching him and if he.
Speaker 5 (38:02):
Because again remember just a month ago we had him
higher than Dylan Grabriel.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
So it's not like Dylan Gabriel was this pick that.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
All but not but not the NFL didn't havehim hard.
Speaker 4 (38:12):
But maybe you do. I still don't know that I
buy that, Rob because when you see.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
Too many people, there's too many people passed on him.
Speaker 4 (38:18):
You keep saying, I don't remember Gabriel. Dylan Gabriel being
up there.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
I'm just talking about the idea that everybody passed on shador.
I mean, there's just too many there's too many people
who passed on him for it to be.
Speaker 4 (38:31):
If I'm him.
Speaker 5 (38:32):
I still feel like I got a shot, and I'm
sure everybody on the roster does too, but I feel
like I would if I'm him.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
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