June 16, 2025 • 40 mins
Rob and Kelvin open hour 2 looking ahead to Shohei Ohtani's much anticipated return to the mound... Rob explains why Ohtani should ONLY be considered a transcendent talent when he's playing both ways — Kelvin tries to talk some sense into him. Plus, reacting to the NBA caving to fan demands for starting lineup intros ahead of Finals games!
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That's right, it is The Odd Couple. Rob Parker, kelvin
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about the NBA Finals.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Looking forward to having that in a little bit.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
But we got some special things happening in the baseball
world today, Rob. People will been clamoring for this to
happen for a long time, a couple of years to
be exact.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
And that is the show.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Hey, otany do the other thing that he does so well,
which is to pitch.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Yes, that's why he's pitching tonight.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Right. The opener, as they call him, will pitch probably
one or two innings. Hasn't pitched been on the mound
like since two thousand and three missed all of last year.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
And that's gonna be interesting. Yeah, people are again. This
is one of the things.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
This is why when you look at the all the
numbers and all the conversations that I had about the Dodgers,
like we had the Athletic poll where they pulled over
one hundred and something players and Baseball mob and just
asking him throughout the year different questions, and one of
them was just like, who do you love to see?
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Who's the most exciting?
Speaker 4 (01:39):
And it blew everyone else in the where I think
it was twenty nine of the one hundred and something
votes and the next closest was like fourteen, I believe,
and Judge only had five, which was crazy. I didn't
expect to be that low. I didn't think it, you know.
And so people want to see this other side. And
player said that, man, this guy's crazy. You got to
stop everything to watch him. He's a freak. He might
be the best baseball player ever. This is coming from
his peers, guys and the majors. But you have some
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thoughts on what about his uniqueness of what makes him special?
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Yeah to me, and I'm gonna be just straight up
O Tani has to be a unicorn for him to be.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
The greatest player, the best player, the love that he gets,
it's all about that because he's doing something nobody's done
since the twenties.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
In Babe Rude.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
If this was O Tani the pitcher, he's not that good.
And what I mean by that is he not winning.
To siye, y'all, you wouldn't be considered the greatest picture
just the guy. He's be a y If Otani was
just a hitter, just a hitter, Yeah, I'm gonna tell you,
just a hitter, he ain't better than Aaron Judge.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
He wouldn't be the best hitter in the game.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
And that's what I'm trying to say is o Tani
needs both parts, the pitching and the hitting to be
this out of the world superstar player that everybody talks about.
Because last year he didn't pitch, and guess what, the
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Dodgers won a World Series. O Toanni didn't hit in
the World Series. Guess what, the Dodgers won a World Series.
And I'm not trying to say that he's a bum
or he can't play, but his stardom is solely on
the idea that he's doing something that nobody else has
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done for a very long time. Singularly, he's not the
best at pitching or hitting.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Look at his stats. Look where he is this year?
He not even bad.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Three hundred Otani has twenty four or five home runs?
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Now where are we?
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Twenty five and forty two RBIs like unbelievable?
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Yeah, twenty five?
Speaker 2 (04:01):
You better listen, you and his RBIs you better relax
or RBI?
Speaker 4 (04:04):
I'm not playing with you. You better relax calling on him?
That's all you bring up about him?
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Last year? Can he help? Who was back in eight
and nine?
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Last year he had one hundred and thirty How do
you go from one hundred and thirty two? We're at
the halfway point. He's on pasty bring in forty.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Five, I mean eighty five runs? How do you lose that?
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Okay, did the Dodgers change completely different team? No, you
can't tell me. He gets a lot of hits when
nobody's on base.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
You done with the ol slander, with with with trying
to You're like giving me the whole spoonful of sugar
to make the medicine go down, down, trying to.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Be sweet and in. Still it ain't it ain't old towns.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Slander. It is Otani fact. And all I'm saying is
he needs both. He needs both to be the old
world superstar that everybody's can't get enough of.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
When he's doing just one.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Of course he's a star, but he ain't on that plateau.
Not as a picture he hadn't want to say young,
and not as a hitter.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
He's not there. He wouldn't be the best hitter in
the league. He's not.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
That doesn't mean he's not dynamic, didn't mean he couldn't
win m VP. That's not what I'm talking about. I'm
not saying he would go to nothing. But what makes
him that extra special and why people go God got
over him is just the idea that he has to
do both. That's all I'm saying. Because he played for
the Angels. Go look at his numbers when he played
for the Angels. Ain't nobody was talking about old Tony
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like that. They weren't. But we were not like that,
not like this. We were talking about the Tony. All right,
let me get let me, let me get in here.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
With you quick. He knows I'm right. Let me tell
you something.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
The room is going crazy crazy, you know, it's crazy
when I have to go to the definition of the dictionary,
the Oxford Dictionary for you special, better, greater, or otherwise
different from what is usual.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
He is by far better than the usual hitter. He's
greater than the usual hitter. Okay, he's otherwise different from
the usual hitter. You were acting, I would give it
to you if not even pitching. The man has three
MVPs rob he has the Rookie.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Of the Year.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
He is a four time All Star, three times Silver Slugger,
and again a World Series chap. Now, so on this trajectory,
with another seven years or so of could be good
to great things will be in him.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
That would be an amazing career.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
Now you add in the pitching, but so much of
what he's done over the last couple of seasons of
what made people awe at him, and I do agree.
More eyeballs now that he's become a Dodger, more people
watching because he finally got to see him the postseason,
More people watching because he got to see him in
the World Series against the Yankees, which was incredible. More
people are seeing him and seeing his uniqueness and watching
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him fifty stolen bases last year as well, don't forget that.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
And if you bring up pizza box, I'm gonna ump
on you. You know those pizza box of that second base.
I'm just saying, well, all of a sudden, the Joe
Boyce were quick. So that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
This guy is just it's just a Marvel guys, that
big six four and you've been around him, he's legit
six four six four and a half, like a legit
big guy. Are stilling bases like that? Aren't hitting fifty
plus home runs? Aren't doing it when it matters. It's
meaning you go from a team he didn't do it
on Sodo, You go to the Padres, disappear and you
know he's good but not great for you. He goes
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straight to the Dodgers and balls out. They go to
the World Series. He had the greatest postseason. But my
point is he shows up big moments. Who is he
struck out at the World Baseball Classic, Mike Trout.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
I get this, strikes out Mike Trout.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
But you gotta admit and your I'm not I don't
want you to say I think. I'm not saying he's
not a sugar mean you. No, I'm giving you that medicine.
You give me right that if you separate the player,
separate him and he's doing only one job. He's not
the best picture in baseball and he's not the best hitter.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
He's not okay, But he's just saying just sim And
you talked about.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Him in the MVPs, yes, because he was pitching during
that time with the Angels.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Last year, obviously he didn't pitch and he won the MVP.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
He had a great year, fifty solar bases, fifty on runs,
one hundred and thirty RBI, all that other stuff. Last
year he balled out just as a hitter. But I'll
sit here today and say, if I had to pick,
I'm that serious. The best hitter in baseball is not
Sho Hail Tani. It's clearly, Aaron Judge, it's clearly. And
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the reason that he gets Otani gets on the nod
all the time. Everybody like, oh, you should win the
MVP every year, and I get it is because he
can't get on the maund like he's gonna do tonight.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
If he doesn't have that.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
If he was just the hitter, he wouldn't even be like,
I know, he's a top vote Getter just came out today.
Judge in the American League, Otani in the National League.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
I get it, But.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
If you really would have remove move the pitching aspect
from him, just.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Let what we have. He has a pitcher two you no, no.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
No, But but people still look at him as that
dual threat because they know he can pick more.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
And every time you keep talking, you just all I
you know how, I'm back in the old Loonitunes commercial
which I know you cartoons. You love how they're so
hungry they like the person they're looking at turns into
like a big drumstick.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Yes, you're just turning into MLB bro right now.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
The more Aaron Judge and Aaron Judge and MLB bro,
And I mean, oops, did I say it? Every time
you keep talking about this, because the only thing you're
saying is Aaron Judge is the greater hitter. I will
concede here. You look at what he's That doesn't make
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showy as if he's not. It's it's that Aaron Judge
is so crazy that show Hay might be a lesser
version of that, but that is still crazy. That might
be being Kobe Bryant wouldn't be special.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Because he's Okay, he's not, he's special, but but he's
doing something nobody has done since the twenty So I
get it. He's the unicorn and they call him that,
and I understand that. What I'm saying to you is
if you were to pull out both of his the
things that he does, which he.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Was only hit what we're ranking with like best would.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Be in the top he being the top five, but
he wouldn't be hands down like number one where people
put him because they put he's hitting like a like
an MVP, and he's pitching as well. Oh my god,
he's two players in one which you can't rate. And
Aaron Judges just a hitter and an outfielder.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (10:35):
But I just think I think he does so much
rob at an at in at bat when he's up
there at the plate, I.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Think I'm a stolen base y out this year.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Ain't got ain't no fifty times this year, he said,
And once he pitches, you gonna have even less.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
That's a good question.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
Let me.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
I bet you he has five stolen base and I
bet you was five. I'm gonna go a little bit more.
I'm gonna go like ten. I'm a w up, I'm
gonna go ten while we're looking that up, all right,
But I just think what he does that Batman, I
mean the way he's.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Scared elevens a pretty good guy.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
Yeah, it's a good guess, Yeah, because I've seen him.
I've seen him a couple of times get picked off
the hold up. He's like, oh he's still trying out here.
But what he does and how he scares pitchers, how
he helps out Mookie and then obviously Freddy. I mean,
what he does is still monumental even without the RBI numbers,
and even without pitching, and again I think you're underestimating
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two years without pitching, and still people are like, man,
that guy is the guy. His peers are saying, is
you read We talked about it with me and you
and Rob G the other day.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
They're like, man, he's the one. He is just different.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
But because of the two things I'm just saying, just
pull off one, say picked one years one.
Speaker 6 (11:45):
I think I see what you're saying, Rob, Just in
that there there's usually a lot more pushback with players
like this. It takes a lot longer for them to
play and be in the MLB at a super high
level for us to start having the talks of like, Okay,
this might be the goat.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Might be the greatest player we've ever seen. And that's
the only reason it ain't just him at the play.
Speaker 6 (12:02):
And then the reason people were willing to have that
conversation with show Hay is because he was doing both.
And what Rob saying, at least what I'm getting from
it is that now he's not doing both.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
And he's not like this year, you just go this year.
But he hadn't pitched yet.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
He's having a good year and I know he's gonna
get all the votes with All Star and I'm not
saying any of that.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
And I don't even know is he really At one
point ten.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Days ago, I would have voted for Freddie Freeman as
the MVP in the National League, not show Hey even crazy.
That's a conversation Freddy was Freddy was bawling out. I
think he had four hundred in a month of May.
I'm just saying, show Hey had a stretch. What did
he go twenty how many games? Ten or fifteen games
without a home run? He just had a drought before
this weekend, Judge, am I right? Yeah, By the way
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I called it a Judge drought. But dude, to Judge
that won last year and I think it was April. No,
but I'll say this, In said you want to jump in,
you can get some of the smoke too. A baseball
he knows what he gets to smoke to.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
I will add that I don't think Sho has to
ever pitch again for people to still have that conversation
because he was so good at pitching for the time
that he did it. He's so prolific a hitting and
then you're stolen bases. Then he could play outfield. Obviously
he won't anymore, but he could have played outfield. I
mean he could have played.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
You know now that we've seen it and it's saying
tough yet you now.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
Go, oh, I've seen enough to say he may be
the best baseball player now has to ever do anything.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
The only problem is if he plays and say does
kind of like what he's been doing this year.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
He got to eighty eight, you know what I mean?
It has his home runs or whatever.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
People aren't going to look at him the same way
as the greatest player of all time.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
But why But what I'm saying enough people said that
about Mike Trout for years because it's somefing he wants.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
People don't talk about that now, but.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
You're still had that conversation. Mike Trout could something. But
but he but because he doesn't do what he did before.
And that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
If Otani was to stop pitching and then he was
really a great player, I don't know if he would
be in that comedy.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
I think he did enough pitching when you pitch for
what was like four years here something like that.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Yeah, but he never want to cy Young.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
He was Nolan Ryan, Yes he does, all right, No,
you got to be well he was Nolan Ryan because
Nolan Clemmens. No, Nolan Ryan never won a cy Young
My goodness, all right, Roger Clemens won seven.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
It wasn't he had to be sho Hey Clemens out
there in the fact that he was that good as
a pitcher, and that prolificate is.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
He don't have to do anything else. Still in basis outfield?
What more do you.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Want from the Man eight seven seven ninety nine on
Fox eight seven seven, nine nine, six sixty three sixty nine.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Am I crazy? Yes? Oh?
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Do show hey have to do both to be considered
like an all time great or the goat or the
greatest baseball player ever. Or if you separate him and
make him just a hitter or a pitcher, doesn't he
fall back? He in my eyes, he would fall back
and pitching, and he would fall back as not being
the best hitter in the game.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
I would say it was Aaron Judge easily if we
were to do.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Or my eyes, he's done enough to be considered as
one of the best bever.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
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Speaker 2 (15:10):
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Speaker 4 (16:12):
Fox eight seven seven nine to nine on Fox. Because
I think Robinson crazy. I think shoel Tony has done
enough that if he never pished again tonight, they go,
matter of fact, are bad. He's not even gonna pitch now,
He's just gonna be lead off or sorry, things happen.
He's done enough to be considered one of the best
baseball players of all time. You say he's really really good,
but he's just really really good if without the two combined.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
He needs both in order to be the super the
super superstarter Unicorn, the one that people are clamoring about.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
That's all. He's a great player. Seen enough.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
I've seen enough, as they say, eight seven seven ninety
nine on Fox.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
So we got Matt in Georgia. You're in the couple
of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Magic, Hey.
Speaker 7 (16:50):
I'm coming from Georgia. It's amazing. It's a magic city
Monday and.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
You already know and we are talking about that magic city.
Speaker 8 (16:59):
I want you to know that, dude, Dude, it's a legendary.
Speaker 7 (17:03):
Yes, and not a lot of white dudes get the
you know. It's like, you gotta know what you do.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Yes, I wasn't gonna say that.
Speaker 8 (17:11):
I was like, man, okay, man, mat Hey, Hey, if
you know how to handle yourself, you're good.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Yes, Matt All you need is green to get into
that spot. Yeah, you need you.
Speaker 7 (17:22):
Need green, and you need to mildly watch your back.
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It's a it's a cooling barn. Well, everybody have the
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Speaker 1 (17:37):
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Speaker 7 (17:39):
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Speaker 8 (17:43):
But look, listen, my taste, o Tony is this had
he just rode out for three or four more years,
hitting like he was, he be pretty close to the goat. Now.
Speaker 7 (17:54):
I don't think he needs to bitch to be the goat,
and I don't understand why he's gonna put up to anything.
They're gonna make a big deal, but that dude is
that dude, and all he's got to do is just
stay healthy for three or four more years. And he's
in the conversation.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
He's got to do more than that. I know he's
done it, Matt, but it's got to be more than that.
Like really, because I'm just talking about if we talked
about this, I want you to go and just do
your little research.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Seriously, I'm not kidding.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
You, Matt. All right, look at what Aaron Judge has
done the last one hundred and sixty two games, which
would be a full season. The numbers are astronomical. And
we talk about this. This year's batting three eighty, three
eighty a home run hitter, batting three.
Speaker 7 (18:39):
Eighty I'm gonna say this, you let rond raccoon you
stay healthy.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
For a year. He's another great. Yeah, he's a great.
He was on that list too, And what are you doing?
Speaker 2 (18:49):
And what do you do when he came back his
first step bat hit home run.
Speaker 7 (18:53):
Yeah, dude, his number since he's been backer insane. All
I'm saying is like, oh.
Speaker 8 (18:58):
Tiny judge, cool, they're all that dude, And if Tony
could just go five years like he did the last two,
you got to put.
Speaker 7 (19:06):
Him in the conversation. Hey, guys, I love your show
Magic City. Yes, I don't go somebody now when I'm older,
but it's real. You'll have a great day.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Appreciate you, man, shout out to everybody in Georgia, you know,
outside of Atlanta and everything. Man, appreciate it. Uh for
listening and call it in. Yeah, I think I think
he's just done enough. I think I think you see something.
So yeah, how many?
Speaker 1 (19:28):
I mean he do? You see? He had a Cy Young.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
I'm just I'm not trying to be hard you guys,
because when you look at it and some of the
great if he had won a Sigh Young and an
m v P, I would I would bow.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
That, I'd step out, I stepped I would.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
There's no way if he had that kind of because
nobody has that like a Cy Young the best pitcher
in your league, and an m v P the best
hitter and best player in your league. If you combined that,
I think if that's going his pitching stats are that great,
like like not all time great. But I'm saying saying
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just that he can do both at high level. What
I'm saying I don't understand, need it. I don't even
think he needed to be an all time great pitcher.
He'd be an All Stars. Let's say, to your point,
he was just a picture. Was he bad to be
an all star pitcher? That's crazy. He could be an
all star pitcher.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
Then he can turn around and lead you know, your league,
and home runs and RBI and and just be a
prolific hitter. And that guy could do those both the same.
I've seen enough. I don't need to see anymore. The
fear he brings up, the pictures, the fact that he
stole fifty bases, the fact that every little special moment
on his biblehead night. Matter of fact, if I'm the Dodgers,
it's showing hey bibblehead night every night because all he
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does is have home runs on his biblehead night.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
I understand it.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
I get all that he's magical. You're trying to make
it like he's pretty dog un good. He's magical, Okay.
I'm just saying, great is of all time is bigger
than that.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
You gotta be.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
It's gotta when people start putting you in that conversation,
I need you to be great at both things.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
You do not want. He was great, very good.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
He wasn't great at one great, very very good at another.
And he did it something that no one else does
and the only thing did it Babe Artasi another side,
matter of fact, he we're going to do eight seven
seven ninety nine on Fox. If you want to get
in on this and tell me I'm crazy. Rob's crazy,
eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox, The Greatness of Show. Hey,
does he need more to prove it? Or has he
done enough? We'll talk about this again right now. Steve
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They're leading two to one at My Miami in the
top of the seventh, trade turner a leadoff homer. The
Nationals have lost eight in a row, but they're winning
against Colorado at the seventh inning stretch four to three.
Washington Angels at Yankee scoreless in the top of the
six DH gen Carlo Stanton was activated after Obo injuries
as a single at Tampa Bay, raised lead three to
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one over the Orioles in the top of the fourth.
Three late games. Boston's won five in a row. They'll
be playing in an hour at Seattle. Logan Gilbert, the
Mariners starter, off the injured list. Houston's won five in
a row. They'll be playing at the A's at ten
pm Eastern. Houston's pitcher was due to be Lance mccullor
Junior tonight. Instead, he's on the injured list with a
spring foot. San Diego at Dodger Stadium to start a
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four game series ten pm Eastern, Dylan Ceeze against Sho
Hao Tani. He'll be the opener, may only throw an
inning or so. He hasn't pitched in a game in
nearly two years. He is the Dodger DH and leading off.
The Dodgers are first in the NL West, two games
over the Idol Giants.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
The Padres are three back.
Speaker 9 (22:56):
As for the NBA Finals, We've got Game five at
about ten minutes oh, Colahoma City hosting Indiana. Series tied
at two. A game six would be Thursday. It will
be Thursday at Indiana. WNBA is off. We've got a
game six in the Stanley Cup Final Tuesday at Florida.
US men soccer plays again Thursday in Austin, Texas at
the FIFA Club World Cup. Chelsea beat LAFC two nothing
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in Atlanta.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Back to you, I.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Got to console Rob Steve Steve because you said the
WNBA was off. We got to console them.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Gauge. What was his name, Steve Gage.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
That's a baseball name, like you can't do anything, You're
gonna be a law firm, lawyer.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Gauge. That's such a sports name. Some I'm Gauge is
a Hall.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Of Fame baseball rider from the Detroit News, one of
my former co works.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Gage get those names sometimes. It cracks me up when
you need to have a column called gauging the Tigers.
I like that I liked it was it was he
riding and only ripping. No, that was made. I know
that was you.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
I'm asking was he was he allowed to say the
Tigers have won six trading there playing good at all?
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Could he do that?
Speaker 8 (23:57):
No?
Speaker 1 (23:57):
All right? All right?
Speaker 4 (23:58):
Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox. Have more calls
on show Hill, Tony. It's actually really something cool. We're
getting ready to see here a little bit later on tonight,
about an hour and a half away or so from
first pitch, which first pitch will be thrown by show Hey,
first in a couple of years.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
That's taking out the call. Who we got Rob?
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Kyle in Jackson, Mississippi. You're on the couple of Fox
Sports Radio. What's up, Kyle?
Speaker 7 (24:18):
Hey? What's up?
Speaker 10 (24:19):
Rob?
Speaker 1 (24:19):
How are you do?
Speaker 7 (24:21):
Good man?
Speaker 10 (24:22):
You're so wrong on this?
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Let me hear you. Go ahead the league tell them, Kyle,
go ahead.
Speaker 10 (24:32):
Man, Tony guy, he's he's he might as well be
the gut right now.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Already he didn't want him, He hasn't want If you
want to crown his ass, well crown it is what
we thought he was mean, Kyle, he hasn't wanted uside.
Speaker 10 (24:46):
Young oh, because he hasn't won a sight young He's
not the best in baseball.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
No, I'm just saying, like your absoluteism, Kyle, Kyle, you
need he needs to do both.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Things in order to be considered. You must listen to
the show, Kyle. This is what I every day. This
is what I deal with, Kyle.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
Now he has to win seven cy youngs.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
When you start talking about somebody's the greatest of all
time to ever play, there's gotta be a body of work.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
Not for seasons done person to bring up as Babe
Ruth who's done when he's.
Speaker 7 (25:23):
Done, was the best player in baseball right now?
Speaker 2 (25:28):
If he didn't pitch, if if show Hey didn't pitch,
well maybe because he's doing both, then you're gonna give
it to show Hey.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
No, are you gonna get your stutter and Stanley right now?
I'm okay.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
I'm just saying, if you all right, let me ask
you this, Kyle, just be honest. If you just as
a hitter, are you taking Judge or old Tony?
Speaker 1 (25:49):
That's just a hitter, that's it. Who are you taking?
Oh no, you're not?
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Oh my god, yes I am.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
And is he not?
Speaker 4 (25:57):
Even he's from where you're from, Jackson? Where in mississip, Mississippi.
Yes he's not. He's from Jackson, California.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
All right, Kyle, thank you appreciating. All right, this is
going on. I need to put a pole up right now.
Who we got is? It is?
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (26:10):
It's who today doing our stuff? Elijah? Elijah? You never
heard of him? Elijah.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
We might need to put a poll up on this.
This would be a good one. Has old Tani done
enough to be considered considered? Might say he is but
to be considered the best ever? Or does he need
to do more like win Cy Young's like, we need
to do more to be here? Waits ever? He done
stuff we've never seen. He's been to eighty something this year.
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By the way, you're acting like a's two thirty. Do
you know what a lot of these baseball players are batten?
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Right now? This ain't the seventies eighty o our numbers?
Speaker 2 (26:41):
One of his numbers and give me his numbers real quick.
I want to make sure I'm not.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
You're acting like this is nineteen eighty six.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Where guys, I'm just saying like he's got I know,
twenty five home runs forty two RBIs something like that?
Speaker 1 (26:54):
He is badding? I got it. Right here. What you
got show? Hey, o Tani, just the straight numbers is bad?
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (27:01):
Two just under three out of two ninety seven? Okay,
so not with all this two eighty stuff. Twenty five
home runs?
Speaker 6 (27:07):
I see two seventy nine, Yeah, baby, that's at bets.
Oh I'm looking at the wrong thing.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
Ignore me, Shay, you sure you would a Dodger fan,
I feel like you know a giant, you a Giants fan?
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Yeah, to an extent.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
Yeah, it's starting to make sense around here. I see
what's going on. You see what I'm dealing with. Steve
a Giants fan over here? Rob, you know can't stand
the Dodgers.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
I'll tell you about I'll tell you that eight seven,
seven ninety nine. On to give me the ninety seven, okay,
I said to eighty eight, Yes, twenty five hund twenty
five home runs, forty two rbrs.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
His rbrs one right really available right there at that point.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
But yeah, that's what I'm saying, is your acting like
he's having a phenomenal year, just not what he had last.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Year at this point, which was really big. Oh, here
we go, Ken in California. Ken's gonna be on my
side with me, he big Dodger fan. Ken, You're on
the odd couple of Fox Sports, right, what's up Ken?
Speaker 10 (28:01):
Well, I hate the Dodgers. I'm a Giants fan and
uh but you are right, man, Tony. You want to
call him, call him, but you don't what he ain't
the greatest. He ain't even past to Barry. And you
know he didn't even hold his chuck step. That's all
I got.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Okay, so he can't what some people would say.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
He could have just said Mary, but hold of jock
strapped knock came on.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Some people will say that Barry, I'm okay with that
Bonds is the greatest baseball player they ever saw.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
That he didn't pick and that's not crazy. Thank you
for the call.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
King, We'll we'll talk to you tomorrow on trash Talking Tuesday,
where trash term me.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
I think I'm up next. I think I'm up next
to your trash. Nobody's saying he can't like Barry can't
be in the mix.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Right, of course we know what every there bab but
everybody because he pitches automatically says. I remember there were
players saying he should win the m v P every year,
like not, I don't care what his numbers are. But like,
because he's doing two jobs, and I.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Get the sentiment.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
They know as a pitcher how hard it is to hit,
and as a hit they know how hard it is
to pitch. Like like, I get, like both completely different.
But all I'm saying is he needs both of those.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
But that's where that's where I disagree. It'd be one
thing you said on it already. If he we've already
not the best hitter.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
He's not.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
No, I'm saying, we've all okay, No one has to
be the best hitter or the best picture to be
the best ever, meaning nobody's not.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
He's not the best hitter, and he's not the best pitcher,
that second best or that's what that's what I'm If
he's the second best hitter, he's not the best at
a top fifteen pitcher, that's incredible, but he's not.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
But he's not.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
That's what made Michael Jordan incredible. But it would be
the greatest wing defender ever. Nobody's said one of them.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
He's the best picture and when he hits, he's batting
three hundred with fifty home run, But he's not.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
He's not the best picture that hit. No that would
be that would be a given. We wouldn't even have
this discussion. We would all be unanimous. He's the greatest
baseball player to ever live. If he was the best
hitter and the best pitcher, there would be no, no both.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
I said, if he was one of those, he's not
one of either one.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
He's one b rod.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
If somebody will, I don't even know if I've ever
seen a letter next to a number no.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Just to play Kelvin's side here briefly.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
Twenty five minutes of this conversation, I don't want you tode.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Just just you know, for the sake of argument.
Speaker 6 (30:25):
Here, Travis Hunter just won the Heisman, and he wasn't
necessarily the best receiver in the country or the best
corner in the country.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
And you let me to where I was gonna go.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Nobody said that he's a goat of college football, but
they said he was the best player in college But
there's a big difference between the two. And I'm saying
you could say he's like a great player. What I'm
saying is he's not the you need to be one
of the two greatst he's the greatest hitter. When Baybouth
was considered the greatest player ever. He was the greatest
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home run hitter and the greatest hitter. Like like the
greatest there was no question, show, ad is a question
when it comes to pitching, and there's a question when
it comes to hitting.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
That's what I'm trying to not give you a hitting, Rob.
I'm not giving you the hitting I'll give you.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
I mean, but it's not even a game. I think
the pitching has been has been phenomenal. I just think
he's not He hasn't been a cy young which you can't.
But that's too obvious. Like if Michael Jordan was the
greatest defender we'd ever seen and the greatest offensive weapon
we'd ever seen, there.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
To be no debate.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
If he was the best player, it'd be obvious. And
he was right there. That's the reason why people still
say he's the greatest because he's one of the greatest
wing defenders we've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Michael Jordan.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
He's he won MVP Defensive Player of the Year and
the then eventually when Finals MVD he covered it all
and so and and he's up there what he's doing
show Yeah, but he but he could never pitch again.
And we're gonna say he's right there in the mix
for best player. All right, Brian, one more call because
I can't take this any Brian in Nashville. You're on
the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
What's up, Brian?
Speaker 7 (31:53):
Hands down? Rob, You're right, four years, Come on, come on, man,
But he is not the greatest of all time. Michael
Jordan after four years.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Was not contained.
Speaker 7 (32:10):
Yes, and Brian Jordan played a lot of years.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
It's the novelty of somebody doing and.
Speaker 7 (32:16):
I guess, yeah it is.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
And what I'm trying to say, no doubt I'm wrong.
I'm not respecting them. I love it.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Thank you for talking about four years as if as
if he's only played four years.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
We're saying pitching for four or five years is what
we're saying. Boy.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
Now, I hope he only goes to I hope he
strikes out every batter and it turned around.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Hit two home runs, might give him nine runs tonight. No,
I ain't giving him nine. He's show hail tony. Okay,
he's spectacular.
Speaker 4 (32:43):
All right, we got the NBA Finals, but we're gonna
get something we haven't had in over twelve years in
the NBA Finals Game five.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
We'll tell you what that is. It's the it's not
a higher TV rating.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I can't even I can't even
argue with you on that one. It's the couple of
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Speaker 4 (33:23):
What sports Radio Brock Parker kelvin Washington on a Magic
City Monday, got the NBA Finals snipping off right now.
Thunder out too. I think it's a four or five
point lead first time out of the game. Just don't
get run out of the building. If you're Indiana, that's all,
you know what I.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Mean, Stay in it, Just stay I mean listen. We
have san energy after they do, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
After the thunders staved off really elimination because if they
don't lost that game in Indiana, they would have been
in real trouble. So they're gonna be hyped. Oh you
do is just be steady?
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Yeah, that's uh.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
But I mean that's the other thing too, the thunder
they just usually if they beat you, they just beat
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brought this up. I think it was early last week
(34:37):
and I said, dagget rob, where's the pagant try with
the NBA finals? And I was using reference to not
having a halftime performance, not having some big national anthem
singer come out, now you know, Taylor Swift, Beyonce, adele
Her Sizza, somebody do the national anthem, or having some
big performance as the right before they call out the
(34:58):
starting lineup, showing the starting lineup, where's the finals will
go on the jersey? All these things that you kind
of were accustomed to, or at least of things of
when you think of the glory years of the finals
and we don't see them. But now the NBA has
been listening to the Ay couple, Rob did you know that?
And now they're bringing back tonight game five, which is
(35:19):
pretty odd that just redically decided to do it in
Milvin Game five, they're bringing back the announcement of the
starting lineup. How excited are you that the NBA listens
to the A cuple More importantly, they listen to Kelvin Marsha.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
This is a zero that doesn't even make sense because the.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Ha done it since twenty thirteen. It ain't like they
didn't do it too less. This is the first time
in the two or three years. Like I asked you
to give me some example, you couldn't come up with one.
You know why because it was twenty thirteen. Like like that,
that's a twelve years in the making. All of a sudden,
you're gonna decide in the middle of a series.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Like this makes no sense. It makes all sense. It
makes it makes no sense they wanted to wait.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Game five is when you decide you gonna show you
I grew up as a kid.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
You they didn't even have the national anthem on television
when I was a kid.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
They would go, all right, well, the first pitch coming
up right after this, and then they would be singing
the national anthem, go to commercial when we came back
the game.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
All right, time for the first pitch.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
I do think I have no problem with that historically,
meaning like because a lot of people feel they started
to bring There's a reason why the NFL particularly started
to bring a lot of the patriotism, and that's because
the military they're paying them.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
They're like, hey, here goes, here's some money.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
Can you show this person back home coming back home
from their their deployment, can you show them I've always
I've always.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Had an issue.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
I'm gonna be honest as somebody who stood for the
national anthem more than anybody, because a forty year career
going to games more than anybody at no other venue
situation do you do that?
Speaker 4 (36:50):
Not one, when you go to the movies, you don't.
If you go anything troubling, don't go to anything public,
you know. And so yeah, at the NBA kind of
forcing the fans, I had to do that.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
That's the story for another day.
Speaker 4 (37:02):
But I do like again in the NBA to me,
trying to bring some more of that special uniqueness to
pageantry back to the games because you wanted to feel
a little different, right, You wanted to feel a little
special like and I'm excited about this. You know a
lot of people are getting ready to gear up, go
out with the buddies, or have a little something something
at the house, a little Connie and Sid, a little
get together, little barbecue, and you want that, you want
to have that feeling. What just happened there, Rick Carlo raise,
(37:27):
I just only saw them look at this.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
It was a foul. He thought this player down the
other red and.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
This is just getting teche. That's not a foule. He
moved out of the way. He would have lost that challenge,
Rick carl I would have lost that challenge. He completely
got out that way.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
It was contact though they.
Speaker 4 (37:44):
Wouldn't have called that. I think it would have stood,
meaning maybe they would have said, what there's contact and
right now, coach, we did not need this right now.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
And I get it from his standpoint of he's got
it like like he does.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
Well, also let the referees know, come on, do you're
not gonna do that. But this is after what he
said in game four.
Speaker 4 (38:02):
It's just so much stuff going on about Scott Foster.
He is such a wonderful reference. Oh no, but he's
just so great. I don't understand all the stuff people
get there bullying him.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
He just said all that after game four, but you
got him early on.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
You just want to make sure that that you let
them know I'm watching you, like, do right by us,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
Well for the Pacers, who generally are the fast break team,
and neither team has had a crazy bunch of that
kind of crazy games with the fast break stets. My gosh,
are the thunder getting a bunch of fast break poison
well turnovers? Yes, and that's what they throw. Man, they
just they just wait. Let's say he lost in seven.
I'm so impressed with their defense. It's absolutely ridiculous. Like,
look how they swarm. Nothing is easy. It's remarkable. Usually
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because usually Rob I think.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
Gets away with a lot of crun.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
I really do like way more than most. But that's
what I attribute I think too. The aggression in which
they play with a digressor. We get that aggressors get
calls slim. We'll see how that plays, because you remember
when the Pistons won in two thousand and four, did
they change how the game was They.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
They didn't want ten games in a row less than
seventy points. That's all I'm saying. They changed some way
it was played. Yeah, we'll see, but but yeah, I
just I just liked it.
Speaker 4 (39:20):
And again I'm not saying the announcement of the lineup
is the greatest thing ever.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
I just think it like bring some little fun with the.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
Idea that hadn't been done since that is thirteen tells
you a lot, and it's.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
Also that's what I'm saying. I also agree.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
That's why I said to you, like, can you tell
me five? Don't you couldn't even think about it.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
Game five is weird to just do it, To not
go over the summer and say, hey, we're looking at
our normal you know, things we want to bring back,
things we want to change and have that conversation to
be like, you know, we changed into game five right
in the middle.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
That was part of it is Actually it doesn't really
make sense, to be honest, But I just.
Speaker 4 (39:51):
Enjoy, you know, I just I like a little bit
of the field making you feel like you had a
night tonight. I'm getting ready watch this big game tonight
and I'm excited about that. I have no idea if
that went in or what just happen there, But yeah,
we got a good game here hopefully. Uh eight lip
point ly halfway through, So we'll see how this one
works out. And UH, with a series you know, look
like it's going to seven, will it be looking like
it's going to six?
Speaker 1 (40:11):
Six games? I want my prediction to be right.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
Under and said I said five, I said five, say
thunder And oh you said the Pacers.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
My bad, I didn't hear you say that series is
tied to to Yeah.
Speaker 4 (40:21):
Speaking of UH, we talked about earlier some baseball trades
that have happened. UH, as well, there's some possible there's
some trades I should say that it happened in the
NBA that could change.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
Most conferences will tell you what it is. It's the
odd couple
Thanks for listening to The Odd Couple podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
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Speaker 3 (00:24):
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Speaker 4 (00:31):
That's right, it is The Odd Couple. Rob Parker, kelvin
Washington on a Magic City Monday. Thank you for rocking
with you, boys, We appreciate you as always. Coming up
this hour, don't forget, we're gonna have some more conversations
about the NBA Finals.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Looking forward to having that in a little bit.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
But we got some special things happening in the baseball
world today, Rob. People will been clamoring for this to
happen for a long time, a couple of years to
be exact.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
And that is the show.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Hey, otany do the other thing that he does so well,
which is to pitch.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Yes, that's why he's pitching tonight.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Right. The opener, as they call him, will pitch probably
one or two innings. Hasn't pitched been on the mound
like since two thousand and three missed all of last year.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
And that's gonna be interesting. Yeah, people are again. This
is one of the things.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
This is why when you look at the all the
numbers and all the conversations that I had about the Dodgers,
like we had the Athletic poll where they pulled over
one hundred and something players and Baseball mob and just
asking him throughout the year different questions, and one of
them was just like, who do you love to see?
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Who's the most exciting?
Speaker 4 (01:39):
And it blew everyone else in the where I think
it was twenty nine of the one hundred and something
votes and the next closest was like fourteen, I believe,
and Judge only had five, which was crazy. I didn't
expect to be that low. I didn't think it, you know.
And so people want to see this other side. And
player said that, man, this guy's crazy. You got to
stop everything to watch him. He's a freak. He might
be the best baseball player ever. This is coming from
his peers, guys and the majors. But you have some
(02:01):
thoughts on what about his uniqueness of what makes him special?
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Yeah to me, and I'm gonna be just straight up
O Tani has to be a unicorn for him to be.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
The greatest player, the best player, the love that he gets,
it's all about that because he's doing something nobody's done
since the twenties.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
In Babe Rude.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
If this was O Tani the pitcher, he's not that good.
And what I mean by that is he not winning.
To siye, y'all, you wouldn't be considered the greatest picture
just the guy. He's be a y If Otani was
just a hitter, just a hitter, Yeah, I'm gonna tell you,
just a hitter, he ain't better than Aaron Judge.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
He wouldn't be the best hitter in the game.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
And that's what I'm trying to say is o Tani
needs both parts, the pitching and the hitting to be
this out of the world superstar player that everybody talks about.
Because last year he didn't pitch, and guess what, the
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Dodgers won a World Series. O Toanni didn't hit in
the World Series. Guess what, the Dodgers won a World Series.
And I'm not trying to say that he's a bum
or he can't play, but his stardom is solely on
the idea that he's doing something that nobody else has
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done for a very long time. Singularly, he's not the
best at pitching or hitting.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Look at his stats. Look where he is this year?
He not even bad.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Three hundred Otani has twenty four or five home runs?
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Now where are we?
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Twenty five and forty two RBIs like unbelievable?
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Yeah, twenty five?
Speaker 2 (04:01):
You better listen, you and his RBIs you better relax
or RBI?
Speaker 4 (04:04):
I'm not playing with you. You better relax calling on him?
That's all you bring up about him?
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Last year? Can he help? Who was back in eight
and nine?
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Last year he had one hundred and thirty How do
you go from one hundred and thirty two? We're at
the halfway point. He's on pasty bring in forty.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Five, I mean eighty five runs? How do you lose that?
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Okay, did the Dodgers change completely different team? No, you
can't tell me. He gets a lot of hits when
nobody's on base.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
You done with the ol slander, with with with trying
to You're like giving me the whole spoonful of sugar
to make the medicine go down, down, trying to.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Be sweet and in. Still it ain't it ain't old towns.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Slander. It is Otani fact. And all I'm saying is
he needs both. He needs both to be the old
world superstar that everybody's can't get enough of.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
When he's doing just one.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Of course he's a star, but he ain't on that plateau.
Not as a picture he hadn't want to say young,
and not as a hitter.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
He's not there. He wouldn't be the best hitter in
the league. He's not.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
That doesn't mean he's not dynamic, didn't mean he couldn't
win m VP. That's not what I'm talking about. I'm
not saying he would go to nothing. But what makes
him that extra special and why people go God got
over him is just the idea that he has to
do both. That's all I'm saying. Because he played for
the Angels. Go look at his numbers when he played
for the Angels. Ain't nobody was talking about old Tony
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like that. They weren't. But we were not like that,
not like this. We were talking about the Tony. All right,
let me get let me, let me get in here.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
With you quick. He knows I'm right. Let me tell
you something.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
The room is going crazy crazy, you know, it's crazy
when I have to go to the definition of the dictionary,
the Oxford Dictionary for you special, better, greater, or otherwise
different from what is usual.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
He is by far better than the usual hitter. He's
greater than the usual hitter. Okay, he's otherwise different from
the usual hitter. You were acting, I would give it
to you if not even pitching. The man has three
MVPs rob he has the Rookie.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Of the Year.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
He is a four time All Star, three times Silver Slugger,
and again a World Series chap. Now, so on this trajectory,
with another seven years or so of could be good
to great things will be in him.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
That would be an amazing career.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
Now you add in the pitching, but so much of
what he's done over the last couple of seasons of
what made people awe at him, and I do agree.
More eyeballs now that he's become a Dodger, more people
watching because he finally got to see him the postseason,
More people watching because he got to see him in
the World Series against the Yankees, which was incredible. More
people are seeing him and seeing his uniqueness and watching
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him fifty stolen bases last year as well, don't forget that.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
And if you bring up pizza box, I'm gonna ump
on you. You know those pizza box of that second base.
I'm just saying, well, all of a sudden, the Joe
Boyce were quick. So that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
This guy is just it's just a Marvel guys, that
big six four and you've been around him, he's legit
six four six four and a half, like a legit
big guy. Are stilling bases like that? Aren't hitting fifty
plus home runs? Aren't doing it when it matters. It's
meaning you go from a team he didn't do it
on Sodo, You go to the Padres, disappear and you
know he's good but not great for you. He goes
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straight to the Dodgers and balls out. They go to
the World Series. He had the greatest postseason. But my
point is he shows up big moments. Who is he
struck out at the World Baseball Classic, Mike Trout.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
I get this, strikes out Mike Trout.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
But you gotta admit and your I'm not I don't
want you to say I think. I'm not saying he's
not a sugar mean you. No, I'm giving you that medicine.
You give me right that if you separate the player,
separate him and he's doing only one job. He's not
the best picture in baseball and he's not the best hitter.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
He's not okay, But he's just saying just sim And
you talked about.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Him in the MVPs, yes, because he was pitching during
that time with the Angels.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Last year, obviously he didn't pitch and he won the MVP.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
He had a great year, fifty solar bases, fifty on runs,
one hundred and thirty RBI, all that other stuff. Last
year he balled out just as a hitter. But I'll
sit here today and say, if I had to pick,
I'm that serious. The best hitter in baseball is not
Sho Hail Tani. It's clearly, Aaron Judge, it's clearly. And
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the reason that he gets Otani gets on the nod
all the time. Everybody like, oh, you should win the
MVP every year, and I get it is because he
can't get on the maund like he's gonna do tonight.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
If he doesn't have that.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
If he was just the hitter, he wouldn't even be like,
I know, he's a top vote Getter just came out today.
Judge in the American League, Otani in the National League.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
I get it, But.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
If you really would have remove move the pitching aspect
from him, just.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Let what we have. He has a pitcher two you no, no.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
No, But but people still look at him as that
dual threat because they know he can pick more.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
And every time you keep talking, you just all I
you know how, I'm back in the old Loonitunes commercial
which I know you cartoons. You love how they're so
hungry they like the person they're looking at turns into
like a big drumstick.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Yes, you're just turning into MLB bro right now.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
The more Aaron Judge and Aaron Judge and MLB bro,
And I mean, oops, did I say it? Every time
you keep talking about this, because the only thing you're
saying is Aaron Judge is the greater hitter. I will
concede here. You look at what he's That doesn't make
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showy as if he's not. It's it's that Aaron Judge
is so crazy that show Hay might be a lesser
version of that, but that is still crazy. That might
be being Kobe Bryant wouldn't be special.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Because he's Okay, he's not, he's special, but but he's
doing something nobody has done since the twenty So I
get it. He's the unicorn and they call him that,
and I understand that. What I'm saying to you is
if you were to pull out both of his the
things that he does, which he.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Was only hit what we're ranking with like best would.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Be in the top he being the top five, but
he wouldn't be hands down like number one where people
put him because they put he's hitting like a like
an MVP, and he's pitching as well. Oh my god,
he's two players in one which you can't rate. And
Aaron Judges just a hitter and an outfielder.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (10:35):
But I just think I think he does so much
rob at an at in at bat when he's up
there at the plate, I.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Think I'm a stolen base y out this year.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Ain't got ain't no fifty times this year, he said,
And once he pitches, you gonna have even less.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
That's a good question.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
Let me.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
I bet you he has five stolen base and I
bet you was five. I'm gonna go a little bit more.
I'm gonna go like ten. I'm a w up, I'm
gonna go ten while we're looking that up, all right,
But I just think what he does that Batman, I
mean the way he's.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Scared elevens a pretty good guy.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
Yeah, it's a good guess, Yeah, because I've seen him.
I've seen him a couple of times get picked off
the hold up. He's like, oh he's still trying out here.
But what he does and how he scares pitchers, how
he helps out Mookie and then obviously Freddy. I mean,
what he does is still monumental even without the RBI numbers,
and even without pitching, and again I think you're underestimating
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two years without pitching, and still people are like, man,
that guy is the guy. His peers are saying, is
you read We talked about it with me and you
and Rob G the other day.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
They're like, man, he's the one. He is just different.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
But because of the two things I'm just saying, just
pull off one, say picked one years one.
Speaker 6 (11:45):
I think I see what you're saying, Rob, Just in
that there there's usually a lot more pushback with players
like this. It takes a lot longer for them to
play and be in the MLB at a super high
level for us to start having the talks of like, Okay,
this might be the goat.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Might be the greatest player we've ever seen. And that's
the only reason it ain't just him at the play.
Speaker 6 (12:02):
And then the reason people were willing to have that
conversation with show Hay is because he was doing both.
And what Rob saying, at least what I'm getting from
it is that now he's not doing both.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
And he's not like this year, you just go this year.
But he hadn't pitched yet.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
He's having a good year and I know he's gonna
get all the votes with All Star and I'm not
saying any of that.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
And I don't even know is he really At one
point ten.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Days ago, I would have voted for Freddie Freeman as
the MVP in the National League, not show Hey even crazy.
That's a conversation Freddy was Freddy was bawling out. I
think he had four hundred in a month of May.
I'm just saying, show Hey had a stretch. What did
he go twenty how many games? Ten or fifteen games
without a home run? He just had a drought before
this weekend, Judge, am I right? Yeah, By the way
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I called it a Judge drought. But dude, to Judge
that won last year and I think it was April. No,
but I'll say this, In said you want to jump in,
you can get some of the smoke too. A baseball
he knows what he gets to smoke to.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
I will add that I don't think Sho has to
ever pitch again for people to still have that conversation
because he was so good at pitching for the time
that he did it. He's so prolific a hitting and
then you're stolen bases. Then he could play outfield. Obviously
he won't anymore, but he could have played outfield. I
mean he could have played.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
You know now that we've seen it and it's saying
tough yet you now.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
Go, oh, I've seen enough to say he may be
the best baseball player now has to ever do anything.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
The only problem is if he plays and say does
kind of like what he's been doing this year.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
He got to eighty eight, you know what I mean?
It has his home runs or whatever.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
People aren't going to look at him the same way
as the greatest player of all time.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
But why But what I'm saying enough people said that
about Mike Trout for years because it's somefing he wants.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
People don't talk about that now, but.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
You're still had that conversation. Mike Trout could something. But
but he but because he doesn't do what he did before.
And that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
If Otani was to stop pitching and then he was
really a great player, I don't know if he would
be in that comedy.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
I think he did enough pitching when you pitch for
what was like four years here something like that.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Yeah, but he never want to cy Young.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
He was Nolan Ryan, Yes he does, all right, No,
you got to be well he was Nolan Ryan because
Nolan Clemmens. No, Nolan Ryan never won a cy Young
My goodness, all right, Roger Clemens won seven.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
It wasn't he had to be sho Hey Clemens out
there in the fact that he was that good as
a pitcher, and that prolificate is.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
He don't have to do anything else. Still in basis outfield?
What more do you.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Want from the Man eight seven seven ninety nine on
Fox eight seven seven, nine nine, six sixty three sixty nine.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Am I crazy? Yes? Oh?
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Do show hey have to do both to be considered
like an all time great or the goat or the
greatest baseball player ever. Or if you separate him and
make him just a hitter or a pitcher, doesn't he
fall back? He in my eyes, he would fall back
and pitching, and he would fall back as not being
the best hitter in the game.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
I would say it was Aaron Judge easily if we
were to do.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Or my eyes, he's done enough to be considered as
one of the best bever.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
All right, we want to hear from you. Eight seven,
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Speaker 2 (15:10):
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Speaker 4 (16:12):
Fox eight seven seven nine to nine on Fox. Because
I think Robinson crazy. I think shoel Tony has done
enough that if he never pished again tonight, they go,
matter of fact, are bad. He's not even gonna pitch now,
He's just gonna be lead off or sorry, things happen.
He's done enough to be considered one of the best
baseball players of all time. You say he's really really good,
but he's just really really good if without the two combined.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
He needs both in order to be the super the
super superstarter Unicorn, the one that people are clamoring about.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
That's all. He's a great player. Seen enough.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
I've seen enough, as they say, eight seven seven ninety
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Speaker 2 (16:44):
So we got Matt in Georgia. You're in the couple
of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Magic, Hey.
Speaker 7 (16:50):
I'm coming from Georgia. It's amazing. It's a magic city
Monday and.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
You already know and we are talking about that magic city.
Speaker 8 (16:59):
I want you to know that, dude, Dude, it's a legendary.
Speaker 7 (17:03):
Yes, and not a lot of white dudes get the
you know. It's like, you gotta know what you do.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Yes, I wasn't gonna say that.
Speaker 8 (17:11):
I was like, man, okay, man, mat Hey, Hey, if
you know how to handle yourself, you're good.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Yes, Matt All you need is green to get into
that spot. Yeah, you need you.
Speaker 7 (17:22):
Need green, and you need to mildly watch your back.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
It's a it's a cooling barn. Well, everybody have the
you hay him on my way, mister.
Speaker 7 (17:31):
Take care of me thirty live in pepper Ways. Oh yeah,
everybody else.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Little Williams smiling somewhere.
Speaker 7 (17:39):
What you got, right, boyd I got to Little william stories.
Speaker 8 (17:43):
But look, listen, my taste, o Tony is this had
he just rode out for three or four more years,
hitting like he was, he be pretty close to the goat. Now.
Speaker 7 (17:54):
I don't think he needs to bitch to be the goat,
and I don't understand why he's gonna put up to anything.
They're gonna make a big deal, but that dude is
that dude, and all he's got to do is just
stay healthy for three or four more years. And he's
in the conversation.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
He's got to do more than that. I know he's
done it, Matt, but it's got to be more than that.
Like really, because I'm just talking about if we talked
about this, I want you to go and just do
your little research.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Seriously, I'm not kidding.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
You, Matt. All right, look at what Aaron Judge has
done the last one hundred and sixty two games, which
would be a full season. The numbers are astronomical. And
we talk about this. This year's batting three eighty, three
eighty a home run hitter, batting three.
Speaker 7 (18:39):
Eighty I'm gonna say this, you let rond raccoon you
stay healthy.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
For a year. He's another great. Yeah, he's a great.
He was on that list too, And what are you doing?
Speaker 2 (18:49):
And what do you do when he came back his
first step bat hit home run.
Speaker 7 (18:53):
Yeah, dude, his number since he's been backer insane. All
I'm saying is like, oh.
Speaker 8 (18:58):
Tiny judge, cool, they're all that dude, And if Tony
could just go five years like he did the last two,
you got to put.
Speaker 7 (19:06):
Him in the conversation. Hey, guys, I love your show
Magic City. Yes, I don't go somebody now when I'm older,
but it's real. You'll have a great day.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Appreciate you, man, shout out to everybody in Georgia, you know,
outside of Atlanta and everything. Man, appreciate it. Uh for
listening and call it in. Yeah, I think I think
he's just done enough. I think I think you see something.
So yeah, how many?
Speaker 1 (19:28):
I mean he do? You see? He had a Cy Young.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
I'm just I'm not trying to be hard you guys,
because when you look at it and some of the
great if he had won a Sigh Young and an
m v P, I would I would bow.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
That, I'd step out, I stepped I would.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
There's no way if he had that kind of because
nobody has that like a Cy Young the best pitcher
in your league, and an m v P the best
hitter and best player in your league. If you combined that,
I think if that's going his pitching stats are that great,
like like not all time great. But I'm saying saying
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just that he can do both at high level. What
I'm saying I don't understand, need it. I don't even
think he needed to be an all time great pitcher.
He'd be an All Stars. Let's say, to your point,
he was just a picture. Was he bad to be
an all star pitcher? That's crazy. He could be an
all star pitcher.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
Then he can turn around and lead you know, your league,
and home runs and RBI and and just be a
prolific hitter. And that guy could do those both the same.
I've seen enough. I don't need to see anymore. The
fear he brings up, the pictures, the fact that he
stole fifty bases, the fact that every little special moment
on his biblehead night. Matter of fact, if I'm the Dodgers,
it's showing hey bibblehead night every night because all he
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does is have home runs on his biblehead night.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
I understand it.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
I get all that he's magical. You're trying to make
it like he's pretty dog un good. He's magical, Okay.
I'm just saying, great is of all time is bigger
than that.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
You gotta be.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
It's gotta when people start putting you in that conversation,
I need you to be great at both things.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
You do not want. He was great, very good.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
He wasn't great at one great, very very good at another.
And he did it something that no one else does
and the only thing did it Babe Artasi another side,
matter of fact, he we're going to do eight seven
seven ninety nine on Fox. If you want to get
in on this and tell me I'm crazy. Rob's crazy,
eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox, The Greatness of Show. Hey,
does he need more to prove it? Or has he
done enough? We'll talk about this again right now. Steve
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Sega is gonna get us. What's training st Hey.
Speaker 9 (21:33):
We had a no hitter at fas Fools College World
Series today Arkansas, three h thing to eliminate Murray State.
Gauge Wood struck out nineteen, a record for a nine
in in game there. He had a perfect game going
until it hit batter in the eighth. He had thrown
a career high six innings in a regional couple of
weeks ago. LSU was at a UCLA right now, five
to three after three innings, but they're in a rain
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delay to Major League Baseball. The Phillies have won four straight.
They're leading two to one at My Miami in the
top of the seventh, trade turner a leadoff homer. The
Nationals have lost eight in a row, but they're winning
against Colorado at the seventh inning stretch four to three.
Washington Angels at Yankee scoreless in the top of the
six DH gen Carlo Stanton was activated after Obo injuries
as a single at Tampa Bay, raised lead three to
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one over the Orioles in the top of the fourth.
Three late games. Boston's won five in a row. They'll
be playing in an hour at Seattle. Logan Gilbert, the
Mariners starter, off the injured list. Houston's won five in
a row. They'll be playing at the A's at ten
pm Eastern. Houston's pitcher was due to be Lance mccullor
Junior tonight. Instead, he's on the injured list with a
spring foot. San Diego at Dodger Stadium to start a
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four game series ten pm Eastern, Dylan Ceeze against Sho
Hao Tani. He'll be the opener, may only throw an
inning or so. He hasn't pitched in a game in
nearly two years. He is the Dodger DH and leading off.
The Dodgers are first in the NL West, two games
over the Idol Giants.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
The Padres are three back.
Speaker 9 (22:56):
As for the NBA Finals, We've got Game five at
about ten minutes oh, Colahoma City hosting Indiana. Series tied
at two. A game six would be Thursday. It will
be Thursday at Indiana. WNBA is off. We've got a
game six in the Stanley Cup Final Tuesday at Florida.
US men soccer plays again Thursday in Austin, Texas at
the FIFA Club World Cup. Chelsea beat LAFC two nothing
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in Atlanta.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Back to you, I.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Got to console Rob Steve Steve because you said the
WNBA was off. We got to console them.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Gauge. What was his name, Steve Gage.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
That's a baseball name, like you can't do anything, You're
gonna be a law firm, lawyer.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Gauge. That's such a sports name. Some I'm Gauge is
a Hall.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Of Fame baseball rider from the Detroit News, one of
my former co works.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Gage get those names sometimes. It cracks me up when
you need to have a column called gauging the Tigers.
I like that I liked it was it was he
riding and only ripping. No, that was made. I know
that was you.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
I'm asking was he was he allowed to say the
Tigers have won six trading there playing good at all?
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Could he do that?
Speaker 8 (23:57):
No?
Speaker 1 (23:57):
All right? All right?
Speaker 4 (23:58):
Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox. Have more calls
on show Hill, Tony. It's actually really something cool. We're
getting ready to see here a little bit later on tonight,
about an hour and a half away or so from
first pitch, which first pitch will be thrown by show Hey,
first in a couple of years.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
That's taking out the call. Who we got Rob?
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Kyle in Jackson, Mississippi. You're on the couple of Fox
Sports Radio. What's up, Kyle?
Speaker 7 (24:18):
Hey? What's up?
Speaker 10 (24:19):
Rob?
Speaker 1 (24:19):
How are you do?
Speaker 7 (24:21):
Good man?
Speaker 10 (24:22):
You're so wrong on this?
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Let me hear you. Go ahead the league tell them, Kyle,
go ahead.
Speaker 10 (24:32):
Man, Tony guy, he's he's he might as well be
the gut right now.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Already he didn't want him, He hasn't want If you
want to crown his ass, well crown it is what
we thought he was mean, Kyle, he hasn't wanted uside.
Speaker 10 (24:46):
Young oh, because he hasn't won a sight young He's
not the best in baseball.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
No, I'm just saying, like your absoluteism, Kyle, Kyle, you
need he needs to do both.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Things in order to be considered. You must listen to
the show, Kyle. This is what I every day. This
is what I deal with, Kyle.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
Now he has to win seven cy youngs.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
When you start talking about somebody's the greatest of all
time to ever play, there's gotta be a body of work.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
Not for seasons done person to bring up as Babe
Ruth who's done when he's.
Speaker 7 (25:23):
Done, was the best player in baseball right now?
Speaker 2 (25:28):
If he didn't pitch, if if show Hey didn't pitch,
well maybe because he's doing both, then you're gonna give
it to show Hey.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
No, are you gonna get your stutter and Stanley right now?
I'm okay.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
I'm just saying, if you all right, let me ask
you this, Kyle, just be honest. If you just as
a hitter, are you taking Judge or old Tony?
Speaker 1 (25:49):
That's just a hitter, that's it. Who are you taking?
Oh no, you're not?
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Oh my god, yes I am.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
And is he not?
Speaker 4 (25:57):
Even he's from where you're from, Jackson? Where in mississip, Mississippi.
Yes he's not. He's from Jackson, California.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
All right, Kyle, thank you appreciating. All right, this is
going on. I need to put a pole up right now.
Who we got is? It is?
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (26:10):
It's who today doing our stuff? Elijah? Elijah? You never
heard of him? Elijah.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
We might need to put a poll up on this.
This would be a good one. Has old Tani done
enough to be considered considered? Might say he is but
to be considered the best ever? Or does he need
to do more like win Cy Young's like, we need
to do more to be here? Waits ever? He done
stuff we've never seen. He's been to eighty something this year.
(26:35):
By the way, you're acting like a's two thirty. Do
you know what a lot of these baseball players are batten?
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Right now? This ain't the seventies eighty o our numbers?
Speaker 2 (26:41):
One of his numbers and give me his numbers real quick.
I want to make sure I'm not.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
You're acting like this is nineteen eighty six.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Where guys, I'm just saying like he's got I know,
twenty five home runs forty two RBIs something like that?
Speaker 1 (26:54):
He is badding? I got it. Right here. What you
got show? Hey, o Tani, just the straight numbers is bad?
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (27:01):
Two just under three out of two ninety seven? Okay,
so not with all this two eighty stuff. Twenty five
home runs?
Speaker 6 (27:07):
I see two seventy nine, Yeah, baby, that's at bets.
Oh I'm looking at the wrong thing.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
Ignore me, Shay, you sure you would a Dodger fan,
I feel like you know a giant, you a Giants fan?
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Yeah, to an extent.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
Yeah, it's starting to make sense around here. I see
what's going on. You see what I'm dealing with. Steve
a Giants fan over here? Rob, you know can't stand
the Dodgers.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
I'll tell you about I'll tell you that eight seven,
seven ninety nine. On to give me the ninety seven, okay,
I said to eighty eight, Yes, twenty five hund twenty
five home runs, forty two rbrs.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
His rbrs one right really available right there at that point.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
But yeah, that's what I'm saying, is your acting like
he's having a phenomenal year, just not what he had last.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Year at this point, which was really big. Oh, here
we go, Ken in California. Ken's gonna be on my
side with me, he big Dodger fan. Ken, You're on
the odd couple of Fox Sports, right, what's up Ken?
Speaker 10 (28:01):
Well, I hate the Dodgers. I'm a Giants fan and
uh but you are right, man, Tony. You want to
call him, call him, but you don't what he ain't
the greatest. He ain't even past to Barry. And you
know he didn't even hold his chuck step. That's all
I got.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Okay, so he can't what some people would say.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
He could have just said Mary, but hold of jock
strapped knock came on.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Some people will say that Barry, I'm okay with that
Bonds is the greatest baseball player they ever saw.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
That he didn't pick and that's not crazy. Thank you
for the call.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
King, We'll we'll talk to you tomorrow on trash Talking Tuesday,
where trash term me.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
I think I'm up next. I think I'm up next
to your trash. Nobody's saying he can't like Barry can't
be in the mix.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Right, of course we know what every there bab but
everybody because he pitches automatically says. I remember there were
players saying he should win the m v P every year,
like not, I don't care what his numbers are. But like,
because he's doing two jobs, and I.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Get the sentiment.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
They know as a pitcher how hard it is to hit,
and as a hit they know how hard it is
to pitch. Like like, I get, like both completely different.
But all I'm saying is he needs both of those.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
But that's where that's where I disagree. It'd be one
thing you said on it already. If he we've already
not the best hitter.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
He's not.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
No, I'm saying, we've all okay, No one has to
be the best hitter or the best picture to be
the best ever, meaning nobody's not.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
He's not the best hitter, and he's not the best pitcher,
that second best or that's what that's what I'm If
he's the second best hitter, he's not the best at
a top fifteen pitcher, that's incredible, but he's not.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
But he's not.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
That's what made Michael Jordan incredible. But it would be
the greatest wing defender ever. Nobody's said one of them.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
He's the best picture and when he hits, he's batting
three hundred with fifty home run, But he's not.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
He's not the best picture that hit. No that would
be that would be a given. We wouldn't even have
this discussion. We would all be unanimous. He's the greatest
baseball player to ever live. If he was the best
hitter and the best pitcher, there would be no, no both.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
I said, if he was one of those, he's not
one of either one.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
He's one b rod.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
If somebody will, I don't even know if I've ever
seen a letter next to a number no.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Just to play Kelvin's side here briefly.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
Twenty five minutes of this conversation, I don't want you tode.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Just just you know, for the sake of argument.
Speaker 6 (30:25):
Here, Travis Hunter just won the Heisman, and he wasn't
necessarily the best receiver in the country or the best
corner in the country.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
And you let me to where I was gonna go.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Nobody said that he's a goat of college football, but
they said he was the best player in college But
there's a big difference between the two. And I'm saying
you could say he's like a great player. What I'm
saying is he's not the you need to be one
of the two greatst he's the greatest hitter. When Baybouth
was considered the greatest player ever. He was the greatest
(30:55):
home run hitter and the greatest hitter. Like like the
greatest there was no question, show, ad is a question
when it comes to pitching, and there's a question when
it comes to hitting.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
That's what I'm trying to not give you a hitting, Rob.
I'm not giving you the hitting I'll give you.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
I mean, but it's not even a game. I think
the pitching has been has been phenomenal. I just think
he's not He hasn't been a cy young which you can't.
But that's too obvious. Like if Michael Jordan was the
greatest defender we'd ever seen and the greatest offensive weapon
we'd ever seen, there.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
To be no debate.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
If he was the best player, it'd be obvious. And
he was right there. That's the reason why people still
say he's the greatest because he's one of the greatest
wing defenders we've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Michael Jordan.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
He's he won MVP Defensive Player of the Year and
the then eventually when Finals MVD he covered it all
and so and and he's up there what he's doing
show Yeah, but he but he could never pitch again.
And we're gonna say he's right there in the mix
for best player. All right, Brian, one more call because
I can't take this any Brian in Nashville. You're on
the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
What's up, Brian?
Speaker 7 (31:53):
Hands down? Rob, You're right, four years, Come on, come on, man,
But he is not the greatest of all time. Michael
Jordan after four years.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Was not contained.
Speaker 7 (32:10):
Yes, and Brian Jordan played a lot of years.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
It's the novelty of somebody doing and.
Speaker 7 (32:16):
I guess, yeah it is.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
And what I'm trying to say, no doubt I'm wrong.
I'm not respecting them. I love it.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Thank you for talking about four years as if as
if he's only played four years.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
We're saying pitching for four or five years is what
we're saying. Boy.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
Now, I hope he only goes to I hope he
strikes out every batter and it turned around.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Hit two home runs, might give him nine runs tonight. No,
I ain't giving him nine. He's show hail tony. Okay,
he's spectacular.
Speaker 4 (32:43):
All right, we got the NBA Finals, but we're gonna
get something we haven't had in over twelve years in
the NBA Finals Game five.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
We'll tell you what that is. It's the it's not
a higher TV rating.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I can't even I can't even
argue with you on that one. It's the couple of
fox Worths rate you.
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Speaker 1 (33:14):
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Speaker 4 (33:23):
What sports Radio Brock Parker kelvin Washington on a Magic
City Monday, got the NBA Finals snipping off right now.
Thunder out too. I think it's a four or five
point lead first time out of the game. Just don't
get run out of the building. If you're Indiana, that's all,
you know what I.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Mean, Stay in it, Just stay I mean listen. We
have san energy after they do, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
After the thunders staved off really elimination because if they
don't lost that game in Indiana, they would have been
in real trouble. So they're gonna be hyped. Oh you
do is just be steady?
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Yeah, that's uh.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
But I mean that's the other thing too, the thunder
they just usually if they beat you, they just beat
you down. Uh, that's kind of what they do. Ready
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brought this up. I think it was early last week
(34:37):
and I said, dagget rob, where's the pagant try with
the NBA finals? And I was using reference to not
having a halftime performance, not having some big national anthem
singer come out, now you know, Taylor Swift, Beyonce, adele
Her Sizza, somebody do the national anthem, or having some
big performance as the right before they call out the
(34:58):
starting lineup, showing the starting lineup, where's the finals will
go on the jersey? All these things that you kind
of were accustomed to, or at least of things of
when you think of the glory years of the finals
and we don't see them. But now the NBA has
been listening to the Ay couple, Rob did you know that?
And now they're bringing back tonight game five, which is
(35:19):
pretty odd that just redically decided to do it in
Milvin Game five, they're bringing back the announcement of the
starting lineup. How excited are you that the NBA listens
to the A cuple More importantly, they listen to Kelvin Marsha.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
This is a zero that doesn't even make sense because the.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Ha done it since twenty thirteen. It ain't like they
didn't do it too less. This is the first time
in the two or three years. Like I asked you
to give me some example, you couldn't come up with one.
You know why because it was twenty thirteen. Like like that,
that's a twelve years in the making. All of a sudden,
you're gonna decide in the middle of a series.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Like this makes no sense. It makes all sense. It
makes it makes no sense they wanted to wait.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Game five is when you decide you gonna show you
I grew up as a kid.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
You they didn't even have the national anthem on television
when I was a kid.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
They would go, all right, well, the first pitch coming
up right after this, and then they would be singing
the national anthem, go to commercial when we came back
the game.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
All right, time for the first pitch.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
I do think I have no problem with that historically,
meaning like because a lot of people feel they started
to bring There's a reason why the NFL particularly started
to bring a lot of the patriotism, and that's because
the military they're paying them.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
They're like, hey, here goes, here's some money.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
Can you show this person back home coming back home
from their their deployment, can you show them I've always
I've always.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Had an issue.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
I'm gonna be honest as somebody who stood for the
national anthem more than anybody, because a forty year career
going to games more than anybody at no other venue
situation do you do that?
Speaker 4 (36:50):
Not one, when you go to the movies, you don't.
If you go anything troubling, don't go to anything public,
you know. And so yeah, at the NBA kind of
forcing the fans, I had to do that.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
That's the story for another day.
Speaker 4 (37:02):
But I do like again in the NBA to me,
trying to bring some more of that special uniqueness to
pageantry back to the games because you wanted to feel
a little different, right, You wanted to feel a little
special like and I'm excited about this. You know a
lot of people are getting ready to gear up, go
out with the buddies, or have a little something something
at the house, a little Connie and Sid, a little
get together, little barbecue, and you want that, you want
to have that feeling. What just happened there, Rick Carlo raise,
(37:27):
I just only saw them look at this.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
It was a foul. He thought this player down the
other red and.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
This is just getting teche. That's not a foule. He
moved out of the way. He would have lost that challenge,
Rick carl I would have lost that challenge. He completely
got out that way.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
It was contact though they.
Speaker 4 (37:44):
Wouldn't have called that. I think it would have stood,
meaning maybe they would have said, what there's contact and
right now, coach, we did not need this right now.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
And I get it from his standpoint of he's got
it like like he does.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
Well, also let the referees know, come on, do you're
not gonna do that. But this is after what he
said in game four.
Speaker 4 (38:02):
It's just so much stuff going on about Scott Foster.
He is such a wonderful reference. Oh no, but he's
just so great. I don't understand all the stuff people
get there bullying him.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
He just said all that after game four, but you
got him early on.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
You just want to make sure that that you let
them know I'm watching you, like, do right by us,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
Well for the Pacers, who generally are the fast break team,
and neither team has had a crazy bunch of that
kind of crazy games with the fast break stets. My gosh,
are the thunder getting a bunch of fast break poison
well turnovers? Yes, and that's what they throw. Man, they
just they just wait. Let's say he lost in seven.
I'm so impressed with their defense. It's absolutely ridiculous. Like,
look how they swarm. Nothing is easy. It's remarkable. Usually
(38:45):
because usually Rob I think.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
Gets away with a lot of crun.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
I really do like way more than most. But that's
what I attribute I think too. The aggression in which
they play with a digressor. We get that aggressors get
calls slim. We'll see how that plays, because you remember
when the Pistons won in two thousand and four, did
they change how the game was They.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
They didn't want ten games in a row less than
seventy points. That's all I'm saying. They changed some way
it was played. Yeah, we'll see, but but yeah, I
just I just liked it.
Speaker 4 (39:20):
And again I'm not saying the announcement of the lineup
is the greatest thing ever.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
I just think it like bring some little fun with the.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
Idea that hadn't been done since that is thirteen tells
you a lot, and it's.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
Also that's what I'm saying. I also agree.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
That's why I said to you, like, can you tell
me five? Don't you couldn't even think about it.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
Game five is weird to just do it, To not
go over the summer and say, hey, we're looking at
our normal you know, things we want to bring back,
things we want to change and have that conversation to
be like, you know, we changed into game five right
in the middle.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
That was part of it is Actually it doesn't really
make sense, to be honest, But I just.
Speaker 4 (39:51):
Enjoy, you know, I just I like a little bit
of the field making you feel like you had a
night tonight. I'm getting ready watch this big game tonight
and I'm excited about that. I have no idea if
that went in or what just happen there, But yeah,
we got a good game here hopefully. Uh eight lip
point ly halfway through, So we'll see how this one
works out. And UH, with a series you know, look
like it's going to seven, will it be looking like
it's going to six?
Speaker 1 (40:11):
Six games? I want my prediction to be right.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
Under and said I said five, I said five, say
thunder And oh you said the Pacers.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
My bad, I didn't hear you say that series is
tied to to Yeah.
Speaker 4 (40:21):
Speaking of UH, we talked about earlier some baseball trades
that have happened. UH, as well, there's some possible there's
some trades I should say that it happened in the
NBA that could change.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
Most conferences will tell you what it is. It's the
odd couple
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