February 9, 2024 • 41 mins
Chris and Rob react to Lamar Jackson being just one MVP vote shy of unanimous. Michael Pittman Jr. joins the show to talk Super Bowl, Anthony Richardson and more! Plus, the real reason the Cowboys were burnt out.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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All right, Rob.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Last night was the NFL Honors and to no one's surprised,
Lamar Jackson won his second MVP in couch.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
We talked about it about it being like could it
be unanimous?
Speaker 4 (01:17):
You remember we talked about that.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Right, and he was close forty nine out of the
fifty votes, the one other first class or first place
vote went to Josh Allen, and so he did not
win unanimous. Now he is already Lamar, He and Tom
Brady are the only quarterbacks or players ever to be
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unanimous MVPs. But Lamar would have become the first rob
to do it twice. So he just missed out. I mean, look,
obviously he's still happy he's an MVP, and MVP is MVP, right,
but he did miss out on that honor, which could
have been another feather in his cap.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Rob G.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Do we know anything about the voter, because I know
some people were ripping him saying he was a homer
and he probably covered Buffalo and all that. But this
isn't that isn't true about this guy, right, No, it
is not.
Speaker 6 (02:12):
It is Aaron Shatz, and he had previously worked for ESPN.
He's most well known though, as being the guy who
basically founded and created DVOA, which is the newest analytics
driven metric that all of the smart people on TV
and then these NFL locker with referenced. So instead of saying, oh,
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so and so is good against the run, but you
know they've only played good competition, so DVOA is the
thing that kind of really measures that sort of thing,
and Pro Football Focus uses a lot too as a
way to gauge their scoring system. So when it became
public that he was the only one of fifty voters
to not have Lamar Jackson as MVP, he had Josh Allen,
(02:55):
he went on his website. He works now for a
website called FTN Fantasy, a brand new analytics based website,
and he posted a column explaining why he didn't pick
Lamar jack Here's what he said.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
I'm a stat guy. I'm gonna look at stats.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
There's no question by nearly every advanced metric you can
look at, Josh Allen and Dak Prescott had better seasons
than Lamar Jackson. And then he went on and continued
that according to DVOA as a per play calculation, Lamar
Jackson was sixth amongst quarterbacks, while behind Josh Allen who
(03:30):
was second, Brock Purty who was first. And then he
even added and elaborated later on Twitter with a post
which I actually agree with. This part says, I'll admit
I'm confused about other voters who had Dak Prescott and
Brock Purty as first Team All Pro but not MVP.
If you're MVP, don't you have to be first Team
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All Pro?
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Rob G, do you have the voting numbers on how
we know Lamar was first Team All Pro?
Speaker 3 (03:57):
But what he's saying is lamartin get for fifty for.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
All Oh he's still got forty five.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
And one went to saying why didn't they vote for him?
Speaker 7 (04:13):
Right?
Speaker 5 (04:13):
Why it should have been the same exact But but see,
this is the problem I have with the stat guy.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
It's not just stats. It's it's not it's gotta be.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
It's more than just stats, and it's your effect on
the game, your impact.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
We talk about Lebron all the time.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
Chris right like, the stats are great, but does he
have the same impact?
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Lebron hasn't been up for MVP.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
What a couple of years ago he let the league
and assist right like, like, there's more to it than
just looking at stats.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
And I get it, it should be a piece of it.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
But to me is when it's that overwhelming and one sided,
you miss something, that's all. And I think he cheated
us out of something in the NFL with Lamar being
unanimous for a second time and the only player do it.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
I do feel that I thought that was the same thing.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
And thank god he's not like from Buffalo or there's
no story, backstory.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Chris, because that was like last year we saw that.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
With remember Aaron Judge, Aaron Judge, Remember the two writers
from anaheidh right, and that is not that show he's
not worthy. But there was something that like, the only
two players, the only two writers who voted for him
were hometown guys.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
That's what made it feel a little.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
Dirty or soil and and I'm glad that he this
wasn't the case for him. But to say, I'm a
stats guy, and even in his stats, Chris, here's where
I pushed back. So if brock Party was number one
on his thing, why did he vote for Josh Allen?
He said that, didn't he say that?
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Yeah, But I don't think he's saying I only go
by No.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
I'm just saying, but what would be the difference?
Speaker 5 (05:53):
Brock Perty's on the team that made the playoffs and
and had to think.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
He said Josh Allen for the second Josh was second course.
Here's what I think, And you know, I believe that
Lamar should have been the m v P and deserved it.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
I'm glad he got it. I don't think.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
He was so far in a way better than everybody
else that he had to be unanimous. So I've I've
got no problem with this guy voting for someone else.
Josh Allen, I think had like twenty more touchdowns than
Lamar or something like that, and you can't say John,
I mean Josh Allen. Then here's where maybe you want
to push back on the guy Rob. Josh Allen's numbers
(06:35):
weren't terrific late in the season when they made that.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Run, he had less touchdowns he was.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
To be honest, he was playing a lot like Lamar.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
I mean he was scoring more because he had like
six touchdowns in the last in the five game win
streak to six rushing touchdowns, but.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
He had and he only have five passing ones.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
So I'll give you that. My point is just that
I can see how somebody would vote for Josh, or
vote for Dak, or even vote for Brock Purty or
Christian McCaffrey like I and Lamar's numbers.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Is what I said yesterday. I think, like I said,
I think he was MVP.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
I think his impact on the game was incredible, and
watching it it was just it just jumped out on
the screen from you.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Josh Allen did the same thing. And if one guy,
that's why you have multiple voters.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
If there are guys that are gonna lean more towards
the stats and the analytics, there are guys that are
gonna lean more toward the eye test, then other guys
that are old school, then guys that are new school.
You know it just that's why you have a number
of voters. And it may not end up unanimous like that.
I mean again, it's only happened twice where it was unanimous,
(07:55):
but at least you feel like you got the right
guy when you have a variety of points and then
you go with the guy that got the most vote.
So look, Greg Jennys was on First Things First with
us to day. He was like, look, Lamar, don't care
he's MVP. No, i'd it matter. I agree with that sentiment.
I just think what it is of that ill Chris.
(08:16):
You got to look back.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
If it was forty five to five or whatever, that
we wouldn't be having a conversation. But when forty nine,
you know how hard it is to get forty nine
or get that many people to vote.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
You just mentioned four guys.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
People thought Christian McCaffrey all year was in the running,
right he wasn't people like like when it came down
to it, and it tells you about.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Chris Well, he was running.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
No, no, no, I meant that he didn't get a vote,
is what I'm saying. That's what I mean.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
A first place vote.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
But here, I think, but it does bring up an
interesting point. If I'm a voter, like, I think it's
just the guy who's the MVP has got to be
first team All Pro. Like I couldn't vote for a
(09:07):
player to be the MVP of the NBA where I'm
an official voter, and yet he don't even make my
first team All NBA. So there, that's what the guys
point out, Like I'm the only one being singled out,
and he was the only voter in this case. But
he's saying, there were four other guys that voted for
Party or Dak, and why didn't they vote for Party.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Or Dak to me the MVP? You know what I'm saying,
Like that, that's a little odd.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
I remember once, well, when I think I think there's
too I think there's a difference. I think if you
talk about All Pro and being great at your position
and your stats or your numbers, if you talk about
Dak Prescott and what he did, but impact on winning
and and being winning the big games, beating the best
teams like all those other things is where MVP comes in.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
So I can see.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
What you can look and say that had far as
best season, or or Josh Allen had twenty more touchdowns
and as a quarterback, he was one of the best quarterbacks.
But if I'm talking about who had the most impact
of their team, I'm saying it was Lamar who wins
seventy five percent of the game. Baltimore had the best
record in the league. They beat there was seven out
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of eight against the best teams that went to the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Like you could make a case.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
No, I just don't see how that's different.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Like I said, I'm just saying Lamar winning it despite
the numbers not.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Being you know, Rob gu and I'm just saying, like.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
I don't see how you vote Lamar MVP, but you
don't voting first team All Pro.
Speaker 6 (10:39):
I guess, Rob, just to clarify, so what you're saying
and I'm asking you right, No, So like when they
do NFL Offensive Player of the Year. If a guy's
an MVP and he's an offensive player, how is he
not offensive player because of the stats?
Speaker 4 (10:52):
That right? So what you're saying that is when it comes.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
To that, you know, that's do you know why they
do that?
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Right?
Speaker 6 (10:58):
Yeah, But when you're saying all Pro, that's something similar
where it's like it's less about the winning and just yes,
it's about you.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
It's about you and your position. Whereas I think when
you talk about m vps, and this is why intangible
stuff they this, this.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
Is why Chris, you could have lights out numbers and
if your team finishes in the last place, you're not
going to win the m v P.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
You knowause you're.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Also you might wind my first team All Pro.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
No, but but unless you have like crazy stats and
you still don't win.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
When I would think that most voters put the two together,
and Rob g.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
I think your analogy I don't agree.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
I was trying to clarify with I get, but like
the only reason they have Offensive Player of the Year
is to give it to the nine quarterback who was
the great.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Oh even Lamar got votes for Offensive Player of the
Year though.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Yeah, I mean that's where you know, and and there's
no set criteria with these things, you know, which can
make it better or it can make it worse, depending
on your viewpoint.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
But yeah, I I mean, I hear you.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
You could you would think you could win both, you know,
but it's just kind of become a point where they
give the offensive player a year award to the guy
that was a non quarterback who's the best offense.
Speaker 6 (12:13):
So, Chris, what are your thoughts then on the guys
who did not vote Lamar for All Pro but ultimately
did vote h for MVP. I think Dan ol Lobsky
may have said even publicly on on ESPN this morning,
that he was one of those guys.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
I don't understand the logic.
Speaker 6 (12:31):
He had a different player for All Pro and then
ended up voting for what was his logic.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
I didn't get to watch the whole clip.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
I just maybe they were voting at different points of
the season too, you know, I don't know, but I don't.
Speaker 7 (12:46):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
That's hard if.
Speaker 6 (12:48):
You'd have more of an issue with something like that
than you would with Aaron Shatz in this case, sticking
to his guns.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
That's no.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
I mean, look, the numbers is what is paying his bill,
so I get where he's going to go. And to
be fair, there are a lot of teams that operate
based on those numbers, so I think it's good to have.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Guys in there like that.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
It's just it's just.
Speaker 5 (13:10):
If it's two, three, five, it changes the conversation when
it's that close, and so many pick him and it's
just one guy. You do, look at it when Derek
Jeter that was the other one you were thinking of,
Chris when Gita got in the Hall of Fame and
want one vote, So you say, who didn't vote for
Derek Jeta?
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Well, you know why they do that?
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Just I don't know how they determine it, right, But
it's like we don't want to let anybody be unanimous.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
But it's rid Mario except Mariano Rivera right, well, and
Derekjita played every day, Chris.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
He was a better player than Mario.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
Mario know about that, but it's it's they.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
Played every day and as the sixth most hits in
Major League Baseball his life and somebody didn't vote for him.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Well, we always talk about who didn't vote for Hank
Aaron right, vote for baby right?
Speaker 2 (14:01):
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And this would be curious to see Chris where people
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are on this. Let's start with up Bert in Long Beach.
You're on the EYD couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Burt?
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Hey?
Speaker 7 (17:42):
I got doing doing great?
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Great? Man?
Speaker 9 (17:45):
How are you doing great?
Speaker 4 (17:47):
Great?
Speaker 7 (17:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (17:47):
I don't think he should have been unanimous.
Speaker 9 (17:50):
I'm kind of surprised them.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
See you didn't win it.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
Kind of you're kind of surprised that who didn't win it?
Speaker 3 (17:56):
CMC Christian mccarathin McCaffrey.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
Do you know the history of the m v P
in the NFL or not?
Speaker 1 (18:03):
I know, I know it's always a quarter back, but
it's sort of like to me, he just kind of
reminds me of Barry Standers and Brett park.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
You know, obviously Barry Sander should have won it back in.
Speaker 10 (18:11):
Ninety seven, but they didn't met with Brett Parr.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
So it's just like to me, it didn't make sense.
Speaker 10 (18:18):
I love Rock.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Forty too, but I think Christian had a great season
for the Niners, and I'm kind of talking that he
that he wanted that was, to.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Be honest, forty nine to one in your shocked, I'm a.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
Little shocked, to be honest.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
Yeah, okay, I mean.
Speaker 10 (18:33):
If you look at just the stats, just like the Major.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
Like, it's not just about stats, it's about winning.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Yeah, but won one more game. Yeah, he only won
one more game than dak And and Brock. Yeah, I
mean Caffrey, I.
Speaker 5 (18:48):
Mean, he'd beat better teams than those teams than than
I'm talking about that. I'm talking about Dak. I'm talking
about Dak. They Dak didn't beat the teams that they
needed to beat.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
I mean, I think he should have won, but I'm
I don't think it was so overwhelming, Like why do
you think it.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
Was forty nine to one? Oh, I'm just asking. I
don't think it was.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
I mean, different people have different reasons for I know,
just because that don't.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
Mean I'm not saying it. I'm just saying it's surprising.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
I think, like I think Party was hurt because of
the way he played head to head against Baltimore, and
obviously that was a great game for Lamar. I think
McCaffrey was hurt because he wasn't a quarterback and there
were games like when when they ran over Dallas San Francisco,
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McCaffrey didn't do much like fifty less than fifty yards rushing,
you know, So I think things like that, and I
think Dak, to your point, mostly beat up on Tomato cans.
He did beat Detroit, did beat Philly, but for the
most part, they beat up on the bad teams and
he didn't play well and they didn't beat.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Beat good teams.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
So I think those are reasons, and Josh Allen, you know,
their record wasn't as good they wanted.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
They came on late.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
So I think I just think there was other guys
that could you could justify voting for.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
And that's why I think he wasn't your damn.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
All right, Sean in Minneapolis, the couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
What's up, Sean?
Speaker 11 (20:16):
Not too much?
Speaker 1 (20:17):
I gotta go kind of quick.
Speaker 10 (20:18):
But do you think there's alternative motives here? The only
guy that didn't vote for him as his.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Own logistics company.
Speaker 10 (20:26):
And what they say bad press is good press.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Well, he definitely got some press that he wouldn't have
gotten before.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
I didn't think about that.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
I wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
I would doubt it, Rob, But I mean you never know.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
No, I would doubt it only from the standpoint of
and his point of it was forty five to five
and all pro So he couldn't know for sure, Chris,
that he was going to be the only night, do
you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (20:51):
If it were hardly presumed, he wouldn't be there exactly.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
I don't I really believe because of that voting, because
that comes out first. We've seen it before, are right,
that he probably thought, there's no way that I'm gonna
be the own.
Speaker 6 (21:04):
And I know that voter personally has been on a
few of the shows I produce, and I can tell
you he's just one of those guys who fundamentally believes
in his and analytics and the d V o A
and all that stuff that's to his core.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
What what he believes?
Speaker 3 (21:16):
I understand what got you to the dance?
Speaker 2 (21:20):
You should stick with that, you know how the old saying,
dance with who you brought to the dance?
Speaker 1 (21:25):
His robe.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
His whole livelihood is these analytics. So you know he's
going with it.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
I hear you, But I'm gonna split on his pocket protector.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
I'm not buying her, all right, I am.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
NERD knock you out now?
Speaker 5 (21:42):
Good right, Chris A numbers nerve by knock outright, Adam
and DC. You'll be the last one on this. You're
on the odd couple of Fox Sports Radar.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
What up at him?
Speaker 10 (21:51):
My God? My favorite radio show. Hey listen, man, I
cand of agree with Chris on this one. This was
a spread out Yeah, And honestly, man, I know I'm
a forty nine.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Well you sound bitter?
Speaker 10 (22:02):
No, I'm not bitter, man, I'm listen, man, I love
Lamar Man. I've been watching them since people living in college.
He made my counters call him all truth thing because
you always believed it. I'm not no hating man, you
know what I'm saying. If this was anybody else in
that forty nine or thirteen, and he would have won
the MVP, because I just give you our little history.
In two thousand and one, Kurt Warner the MVP for
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four interceptions one gay had three interceptions to following them
on the game before and he you know, he's still
he still won the MVT. I just think it was
too much. It was the second one, so I'm sure
that that's probably you know right, he got the benefits
of the doubt.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
But like, man, don't you think that game against Baltimore, though,
did brock perty in just beyond No?
Speaker 3 (22:42):
It definitely did he?
Speaker 10 (22:43):
Man, of course I didn't.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
Man, that was the game everybody was watching on Christmas night.
Speaker 10 (22:48):
But it's not a one game in AVT, it's a
season ABT.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
No.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
But coming in coming into that game, Chris, would you
write it was him and Lebar coming in?
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Yeah, it was tough. He didn't play as well. And
I get him saying that shouldn't the costume, but it does.
I mean he played exceptionally poor. Is his worst game
of the year, and for Lamar was his best gaming.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
Right, And let me play great against Miami Lamar this week.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
If you're still going, how confident are you on Sunday?
Speaker 10 (23:19):
Hey, man, this I'm I'm the most superstitious fan ever.
I'm confident. Man, I'm confident. I'm confident. I'm confident.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
You don't want to, Okay, I get it, Chris. Let
me tell you my my lift driver. The other night,
she was like when she was watching the Lions game.
She was a big forty nine Ers fan. She says,
she was sick to death. I couldn't sit down. I
paced the house. You know what football games do to you, Chris,
When you're invested like.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
That, you're like, cause you're a die hard either of
these teams. Yeah, it's I mean, I'm not, you know, Ron,
We've been reported so long, long time invested in any
one particular team other than we want our picks to
be right, yep.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
But yeah, this is for those die hards.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Yeah, they'll drive.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
Rob either way whichever side joined Bob do you remember
forty years ago when the Raiders win.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
The Super Bowl? How you pace the house? It was
back in the Louisiana Purchase.
Speaker 7 (24:17):
The right ran the Super Bowl?
Speaker 3 (24:19):
All right, it's the Eye couple Chris and Rob.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Michael Pittman Junior up next, but first, Steve the Sega
with the update, Steved.
Speaker 7 (24:27):
Gentle men.
Speaker 12 (24:28):
Hello there the new head football coach at Boston College
as Bill O'Brien. He had just signed as an assistant
with Ohio State last month. The buck Geys new offensive
coordinator is Chip Kelly from UCLA. Colorado's new defensive coordinator
is Robert Livingston from the Bengals. Michigan's new defensive coordinator
is Wink Martindale from the New York Giants. Amazon Prime
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will reportedly carry one NFL playoff game exclusively next season,
and the NFL will play a regular season game in
Madrid in twenty twenty five. Of course, the Super Bowl
is this Sunday in Vegas. Chiefs All Pro guard Joe
Toney will be out again this weekend due to his
pectoral injury to the NBA mid third quarter Hawks still
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leading at Philadelphia eighty five sixty eight in this one.
It was eighteen points in the first quarter for Trey Young.
He's up to twenty at Chante Murray. The Hawks is
out with a bad back. Boston. With a win tonight
would be forty and twelve on the season. Late first half,
Celtics lead the Wizards sixty two to fifty seven, eighteen
points for Jason Tatum. Wizards enter with a record of
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nine and forty one. Charlotte's lost nine games in a row,
ten and forty record for the Hornets. They're already down
late first quarter thirty one seventeen at Milwaukee. Not only
is Gianni's playing, but Damian Lillard is back after a
sprained ankle. The Lakers will host New Orleans in the
late game at ten thirty pm Eastern Time. Lakers guard
D'Angelo Russell is probable after missing last night with a
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sore knee. In college hoops, about seven minutes to go
at Virginia commonweal VCU Lee. He's eighteenth rank Dayton forty
five to forty one, and San Diego State, ranked twenty
fourth in the country, is down fourteen to eleven after
the first twelve minutes of play at Nevada. Among the
three NHL games, tonight, Penguins scoreless in the first at Minnesota.
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Former Mets general manager Billy Eppler was suspended for the
year for fabricating injury reports over the past two seasons.
To open up roster spots. Dodgers pitchers and catchers started
spring training workouts today. Regular season for them starts with
two games in South Korea Dodgers versus Padres March twentieth
and twenty first. Pitcher Corey Klueber retired. He won two
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Cy Young Awards with Cleveland.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
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gets us Michael, welcome in.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
How are you?
Speaker 7 (27:27):
Thank you? Good good?
Speaker 4 (27:29):
Tell us all about He Gets Us.
Speaker 9 (27:31):
Yes, So He Gets Us is a faith based is
a faith based group that is basically here to teach
people about Jesus and basically just spread that love and
that compassion. And then they're also doing some like really
cool things here in Vegas. They actually are we actually
are serving meals this weekend to underserved families. And then
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they also have a floral exhibit that is on Fremont's,
So anybody that wants to go there and check it
out and maybe chat. And yeah, so they got a
lot of great things going on here.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
That's awesome, especially feeding people.
Speaker 5 (28:11):
I think people don't understand a lot of people in
this country go hungry.
Speaker 9 (28:16):
Michael, absolutely, man, and like it's just so great that
they're like putting this on and hopefully that we can
go out there and just spread love, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (28:25):
All Right, let's talk some football. Ye, all right, that's
what you do for your business. Let's start with the culture.
Guys had to play in game, had a chance to
make the playoffs basically against the Texans.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
How disappointing obumma that was that.
Speaker 9 (28:39):
Yeah, no, I mean, I mean, just like everybody brings
it back like it's like that last play, and honestly,
I thought it was a great call, like it was there,
we just didn't execute it, and like the game doesn't
really come down to that one play, like it's a
culmination of things.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
Like game is sixty minutes. There's a lot of plays.
Speaker 9 (28:57):
Laps in the field, right absolutely, and everybody just back
and I and like I just wanted to start out
like just by saying that it was a team game,
and uh, that wasn't the reason, but but yeah, we
had that playing game that that. I think it was
good experience for all of our like younger guys who
necessarily haven't played in a playoff game, because even though
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it wasn't a playoff, it.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
Was because you want you would have been in the playoffs.
Speaker 9 (29:24):
Exactly, so so we all gained some experience from it.
But that's like the silver lining. But we're coming back
next year, hope, hopefully having a different outcome.
Speaker 5 (29:36):
I was gonna ask you about the rookie quarterback Anthony
Richardson who got off to a good start and.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
Then he got hurt.
Speaker 5 (29:42):
I mean, at what a bummer that was you know,
just talk about him his progress and expectations as you
go forward, because he showed us something early on.
Speaker 9 (29:52):
Absolutely, I mean we've seen flashes of what he can do.
Obviously his like arm talent, and then his legs and
and like with Shane too, because what Shane does is
he really puts his players in a position to be successful.
So I mean, I mean, I think that it's going
to be great, just like when we can get him back.
And what I've seen from him even though he wasn't playing,
(30:15):
you see a guy like who's locked in. You see
a guy who is who is mature and is working
on his craft even though he can't be out there playing,
and and like and like nobody talks about it, but
it is taxing on a young player's mental health watching
other players of his same caliber, like like and his
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same position ball out, you know, like c J.
Speaker 5 (30:40):
Stroud, and it's got to be definitely frustrated.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
He'll be like I could be doing this exactly.
Speaker 9 (30:46):
So I felt like he has handled that great and
and and I can't say enough like good things about him.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
Our guest here on the odd Couple is coach wide
receiver Michael Pittman Jr. He's here on behalf of he
gets us. And uh, let's talk about you entering free agency. Yeah,
you're ready for the money bags? You ready to move on?
Speaker 4 (31:07):
Are you? You're hoping to stay with the cults if
they do right by you?
Speaker 7 (31:11):
Yeah? Yeah.
Speaker 9 (31:11):
So my biggest thing like is fit because obviously, like
I want to go somewhere where, where, where like I
can show what I can do, because like, you can
get paid, but if you're not producing like at that level,
then then like that money's gonna get pulled back like
like really fast. So what I'm more focused on is
finding that fit that is gonna that is gonna let
(31:32):
me showcase all of my attributes that I think make me,
uh the best player that I can be.
Speaker 5 (31:38):
Are you excited about it or apprehensive? Because you know,
like you know, it's kind of a mixed bag. Yeah,
you know, you're you're familiar with the cults exactly right,
But now maybe I might not be here.
Speaker 9 (31:50):
Yeah, So so it's kind of like a weird feeling
because obviously, like everybody that I've come to known like
over the past like four years, friends and people who
have become family. But one thing that I told myself is.
I won't sacrifice my career potential for comfortability.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
So don't be afraid to step out and do something.
Speaker 9 (32:11):
Different exactly because I only got one shot, and I
don't want to be wishing that I would have tried something.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
You know, I used to work at ESPN. Yeah, you
see what I'm saying. By you got it, it's okay?
Speaker 7 (32:22):
Yeah, all right.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
Let me ask you a couple of things. Super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (32:25):
Obviously the Chiefs made it back for a second year,
but it wasn't the same Chiefs. Let's just be honest.
Through the season, they look different to you. Offensively, they
were five and five the last ten games.
Speaker 7 (32:37):
Yeah, but then they've turned it on like as of late.
Speaker 9 (32:40):
And that is the thing with Patrick mahomes you like,
like it's so hard to go against him. Patrick Mahomes
is is one of the best players in the entire league.
And him like in Travis, like just like that pair
and everything that they've got. I mean, like even though
they weren't received as the normal Chiefs team, I mean,
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whenever you.
Speaker 7 (33:04):
Got those guys, I mean like they're still don right.
Speaker 5 (33:06):
So all right, And last thing, the forty nine ers, Yep,
we got about a Minnesota finish up here, and I
want to ask. They came back and won their two
playoff games, which is impressive. They could have easily lost
both of those games. What does that do for a
team when you're going into a bigger game knowing that
even if something a hiccup or something doesn't go right
in the beginning, you can come back.
Speaker 9 (33:26):
Yeah, I mean, it just gives them confidence that it's
that it's never over and teams who can overcome that
usually have a lot of success. So it basically just
shows them, hey, like, we might be down by seventeen
fourteen points, but we can battle back and win this game.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
All right? Who you got in the game?
Speaker 7 (33:48):
Oh, it's so tough. It's so tough.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
Because give me a quick one in the score because
I really like Patrick.
Speaker 7 (33:53):
But I'm gonna go with the forty nine ers, all right.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
I'm with you on that.
Speaker 5 (33:56):
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Bank member fdic rob. Interesting comments made from another Dallas.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Cowboy Surprise Surprise.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
DeMarcus Lawrence was on first tape and he was asked
why they went out so quickly and meekly in the
first round of the playoffs after such a great regular season.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
Here they use the word embarrassing too.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Well, here's what he said.
Speaker 11 (35:08):
You mentioned how you wish your team was here, what happened,
and why your team isn't here? All honesty. I think
the main thing is who's burnt out?
Speaker 3 (35:21):
Man?
Speaker 11 (35:22):
You know, long season team dominatly healthy throughout the season.
Speaker 7 (35:27):
You know the legs get tired.
Speaker 11 (35:29):
But also you know you gotta give hats out the
Green Bay man. They came out with a great game plan.
Speaker 5 (35:35):
I'm sorry, Chris, really it burnt out? What the package
burnt out?
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Too?
Speaker 7 (35:43):
Well?
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Why wasn't every other team in the league burned out?
Did they play playoffs?
Speaker 5 (35:47):
Did they play twenty four games that everybody else play seventeen?
Speaker 4 (35:50):
Come on, man, what burnt out?
Speaker 5 (35:54):
These guys are world class athletes at the peak of
human life, right to be athlete. To say you what
burnt out as the reason why you lost is the
most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
I think that's about the worst thing you could say,
other than when you know, to be honest, we just quit,
like really.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
I mean, it's your job to be ready.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
And I'm gonna say this, Rob, because I totally agree
with you one hundred percent. And I heard other commentators
talking about this comment and ripping him, and rightly so.
But here's where I haven't heard anybody say this, And
I firmly believe this is what he's talking about, and
he may not even know how to articulate it, you know, Rob,
(36:42):
For years, I've beaten the drum about this culture that
Jerry Jones is created that.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
Creates undue pressure on his players.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
When it's interesting to use the term burnt out, Rob,
he didn't say we were tired, We were team, we
were out of shape. The things referring to your physicality
he burnt out means and again he may not have
meanted this way, but it means mentally spent. We were
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just emotionally exhausted. Why because from day one, Jerry Jones
creates an atmosphere where there is so much pressure on
these guys. He's talking about a super Bowl from day one,
and most teams ralh They go week to week, don't.
(37:39):
Most college coaches of Jim Harbaugh says or Ryan Dant
Ohio State, we want to win the Big Ten. If
you win the Big Ten, then you can If you
get that's the first step to be in the National
champion and then you have a chance to continue. Right, Right,
Most teams in the NFL are like week to week.
The biggest game is the next one on the schedule.
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Cowboys are already in training camp talking about the Super
Bowl and rob like a team like to be honest,
whichever team wins Sunday, but particularly if it's the Kansas
City Chiefs, and that will be two straight Super Bowls
for them, right, they are going to have a hard
time next year in the regular season because it's gonna be.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
Like, all that matters for us is January, right.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
What we're gonna do is just play well enough to
get in yep.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
And that when you know, when you have to play
seventeen games knowing that none of it matters except what
you do in the playoffs that can burn you out.
And I think without again, he may know it, he
may not, But to me, that is what DeMarcus Lawrence
is really referring to and what his teammates may have
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felt too.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
Man, we burn out. It don't matter we beat teams
by forty whatever.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
It don't matter that we beat Detroit at the end
of the season, that we beat Philadelphia, all that matters.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
It doesn't matter we went twelve and five.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
All that matters is what are we going to do
in the playoffs that can burn you out?
Speaker 3 (39:17):
That's what I think is going went on with them.
Speaker 5 (39:20):
Yeah, let's just just for that to come out of
his mouth. You might be right, and the and the
choice of words burnt out. It sounds more mental, right, right,
even if physical emotional?
Speaker 4 (39:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (39:35):
Yeah, I just how can it be physical?
Speaker 2 (39:38):
I mean unless they're just totally dogging it, Like, come on,
I don't.
Speaker 4 (39:41):
Think that Chris they won sixteen straight and home.
Speaker 5 (39:44):
That was there was no reason to think, under any
circumstance that they were not going to be Green Bay.
This wasn't on the road where they were the average team,
Chris five hundred team, right, this is at home where
they dominate. They don't even only just win in Dallas.
They annihilatele.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
Yeah, no, it was. It was mental. But that's that's
why I say, Robin.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
People might say, oh, what's that got to do with
being on the field and playing it? Man, Look, everything
is as a mental component, and Rob it'd be like
if you and I had to do the show every
night with our bosses standing over our shoulder watching every word.
We say, you know what I mean? Like that that
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will burn you out. You gonna tell me the Cowboys
the players don't feel like that's every game, every play,
every practice. This dude is figuratively looking over my shoulder.
I mean, that's what I think it is. Chris and Jerry.
I'm trying to give you some good advice. Man, go chill,
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go fishing, Chris, go canoeing, go on your yacht.
Speaker 4 (40:58):
I found I found a hat that fit your head.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
What is that? That purple is the super Bowl on it.
Speaker 4 (41:06):
Yeah, super Bowl. Look at that hat.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Look out bigger than finally, something that made your your
head fit.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
That's what it is. Keep it locked. A couple
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Speaker 3 (01:02):
All right, Rob.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Last night was the NFL Honors and to no one's surprised,
Lamar Jackson won his second MVP in couch.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
We talked about it about it being like could it
be unanimous?
Speaker 4 (01:17):
You remember we talked about that.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Right, and he was close forty nine out of the
fifty votes, the one other first class or first place
vote went to Josh Allen, and so he did not
win unanimous. Now he is already Lamar, He and Tom
Brady are the only quarterbacks or players ever to be
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unanimous MVPs. But Lamar would have become the first rob
to do it twice. So he just missed out. I mean, look,
obviously he's still happy he's an MVP, and MVP is MVP, right,
but he did miss out on that honor, which could
have been another feather in his cap.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Rob G.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Do we know anything about the voter, because I know
some people were ripping him saying he was a homer
and he probably covered Buffalo and all that. But this
isn't that isn't true about this guy, right, No, it
is not.
Speaker 6 (02:12):
It is Aaron Shatz, and he had previously worked for ESPN.
He's most well known though, as being the guy who
basically founded and created DVOA, which is the newest analytics
driven metric that all of the smart people on TV
and then these NFL locker with referenced. So instead of saying, oh,
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so and so is good against the run, but you
know they've only played good competition, so DVOA is the
thing that kind of really measures that sort of thing,
and Pro Football Focus uses a lot too as a
way to gauge their scoring system. So when it became
public that he was the only one of fifty voters
to not have Lamar Jackson as MVP, he had Josh Allen,
(02:55):
he went on his website. He works now for a
website called FTN Fantasy, a brand new analytics based website,
and he posted a column explaining why he didn't pick
Lamar jack Here's what he said.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
I'm a stat guy. I'm gonna look at stats.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
There's no question by nearly every advanced metric you can
look at, Josh Allen and Dak Prescott had better seasons
than Lamar Jackson. And then he went on and continued
that according to DVOA as a per play calculation, Lamar
Jackson was sixth amongst quarterbacks, while behind Josh Allen who
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was second, Brock Purty who was first. And then he
even added and elaborated later on Twitter with a post
which I actually agree with. This part says, I'll admit
I'm confused about other voters who had Dak Prescott and
Brock Purty as first Team All Pro but not MVP.
If you're MVP, don't you have to be first Team
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All Pro?
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Rob G, do you have the voting numbers on how
we know Lamar was first Team All Pro?
Speaker 3 (03:57):
But what he's saying is lamartin get for fifty for.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
All Oh he's still got forty five.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
And one went to saying why didn't they vote for him?
Speaker 7 (04:13):
Right?
Speaker 5 (04:13):
Why it should have been the same exact But but see,
this is the problem I have with the stat guy.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
It's not just stats. It's it's not it's gotta be.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
It's more than just stats, and it's your effect on
the game, your impact.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
We talk about Lebron all the time.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
Chris right like, the stats are great, but does he
have the same impact?
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Lebron hasn't been up for MVP.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
What a couple of years ago he let the league
and assist right like, like, there's more to it than
just looking at stats.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
And I get it, it should be a piece of it.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
But to me is when it's that overwhelming and one sided,
you miss something, that's all. And I think he cheated
us out of something in the NFL with Lamar being
unanimous for a second time and the only player do it.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
I do feel that I thought that was the same thing.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
And thank god he's not like from Buffalo or there's
no story, backstory.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Chris, because that was like last year we saw that.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
With remember Aaron Judge, Aaron Judge, Remember the two writers
from anaheidh right, and that is not that show he's
not worthy. But there was something that like, the only
two players, the only two writers who voted for him
were hometown guys.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
That's what made it feel a little.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
Dirty or soil and and I'm glad that he this
wasn't the case for him. But to say, I'm a
stats guy, and even in his stats, Chris, here's where
I pushed back. So if brock Party was number one
on his thing, why did he vote for Josh Allen?
He said that, didn't he say that?
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Yeah, But I don't think he's saying I only go
by No.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
I'm just saying, but what would be the difference?
Speaker 5 (05:53):
Brock Perty's on the team that made the playoffs and
and had to think.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
He said Josh Allen for the second Josh was second course.
Here's what I think, And you know, I believe that
Lamar should have been the m v P and deserved it.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
I'm glad he got it. I don't think.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
He was so far in a way better than everybody
else that he had to be unanimous. So I've I've
got no problem with this guy voting for someone else.
Josh Allen, I think had like twenty more touchdowns than
Lamar or something like that, and you can't say John,
I mean Josh Allen. Then here's where maybe you want
to push back on the guy Rob. Josh Allen's numbers
(06:35):
weren't terrific late in the season when they made that.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Run, he had less touchdowns he was.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
To be honest, he was playing a lot like Lamar.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
I mean he was scoring more because he had like
six touchdowns in the last in the five game win
streak to six rushing touchdowns, but.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
He had and he only have five passing ones.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
So I'll give you that. My point is just that
I can see how somebody would vote for Josh, or
vote for Dak, or even vote for Brock Purty or
Christian McCaffrey like I and Lamar's numbers.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Is what I said yesterday. I think, like I said,
I think he was MVP.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
I think his impact on the game was incredible, and
watching it it was just it just jumped out on
the screen from you.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Josh Allen did the same thing. And if one guy,
that's why you have multiple voters.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
If there are guys that are gonna lean more towards
the stats and the analytics, there are guys that are
gonna lean more toward the eye test, then other guys
that are old school, then guys that are new school.
You know it just that's why you have a number
of voters. And it may not end up unanimous like that.
I mean again, it's only happened twice where it was unanimous,
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but at least you feel like you got the right
guy when you have a variety of points and then
you go with the guy that got the most vote.
So look, Greg Jennys was on First Things First with
us to day. He was like, look, Lamar, don't care
he's MVP. No, i'd it matter. I agree with that sentiment.
I just think what it is of that ill Chris.
(08:16):
You got to look back.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
If it was forty five to five or whatever, that
we wouldn't be having a conversation. But when forty nine,
you know how hard it is to get forty nine
or get that many people to vote.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
You just mentioned four guys.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
People thought Christian McCaffrey all year was in the running,
right he wasn't people like like when it came down
to it, and it tells you about.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Chris Well, he was running.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
No, no, no, I meant that he didn't get a vote,
is what I'm saying. That's what I mean.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
A first place vote.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
But here, I think, but it does bring up an
interesting point. If I'm a voter, like, I think it's
just the guy who's the MVP has got to be
first team All Pro. Like I couldn't vote for a
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player to be the MVP of the NBA where I'm
an official voter, and yet he don't even make my
first team All NBA. So there, that's what the guys
point out, Like I'm the only one being singled out,
and he was the only voter in this case. But
he's saying, there were four other guys that voted for
Party or Dak, and why didn't they vote for Party.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Or Dak to me the MVP? You know what I'm saying,
Like that, that's a little odd.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
I remember once, well, when I think I think there's
too I think there's a difference. I think if you
talk about All Pro and being great at your position
and your stats or your numbers, if you talk about
Dak Prescott and what he did, but impact on winning
and and being winning the big games, beating the best
teams like all those other things is where MVP comes in.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
So I can see.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
What you can look and say that had far as
best season, or or Josh Allen had twenty more touchdowns
and as a quarterback, he was one of the best quarterbacks.
But if I'm talking about who had the most impact
of their team, I'm saying it was Lamar who wins
seventy five percent of the game. Baltimore had the best
record in the league. They beat there was seven out
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of eight against the best teams that went to the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Like you could make a case.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
No, I just don't see how that's different.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Like I said, I'm just saying Lamar winning it despite
the numbers not.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Being you know, Rob gu and I'm just saying, like.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
I don't see how you vote Lamar MVP, but you
don't voting first team All Pro.
Speaker 6 (10:39):
I guess, Rob, just to clarify, so what you're saying
and I'm asking you right, No, So like when they
do NFL Offensive Player of the Year. If a guy's
an MVP and he's an offensive player, how is he
not offensive player because of the stats?
Speaker 4 (10:52):
That right? So what you're saying that is when it comes.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
To that, you know, that's do you know why they
do that?
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Right?
Speaker 6 (10:58):
Yeah, But when you're saying all Pro, that's something similar
where it's like it's less about the winning and just yes,
it's about you.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
It's about you and your position. Whereas I think when
you talk about m vps, and this is why intangible
stuff they this, this.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
Is why Chris, you could have lights out numbers and
if your team finishes in the last place, you're not
going to win the m v P.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
You knowause you're.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Also you might wind my first team All Pro.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
No, but but unless you have like crazy stats and
you still don't win.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
When I would think that most voters put the two together,
and Rob g.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
I think your analogy I don't agree.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
I was trying to clarify with I get, but like
the only reason they have Offensive Player of the Year
is to give it to the nine quarterback who was
the great.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Oh even Lamar got votes for Offensive Player of the
Year though.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Yeah, I mean that's where you know, and and there's
no set criteria with these things, you know, which can
make it better or it can make it worse, depending
on your viewpoint.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
But yeah, I I mean, I hear you.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
You could you would think you could win both, you know,
but it's just kind of become a point where they
give the offensive player a year award to the guy
that was a non quarterback who's the best offense.
Speaker 6 (12:13):
So, Chris, what are your thoughts then on the guys
who did not vote Lamar for All Pro but ultimately
did vote h for MVP. I think Dan ol Lobsky
may have said even publicly on on ESPN this morning,
that he was one of those guys.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
I don't understand the logic.
Speaker 6 (12:31):
He had a different player for All Pro and then
ended up voting for what was his logic.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
I didn't get to watch the whole clip.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
I just maybe they were voting at different points of
the season too, you know, I don't know, but I don't.
Speaker 7 (12:46):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
That's hard if.
Speaker 6 (12:48):
You'd have more of an issue with something like that
than you would with Aaron Shatz in this case, sticking
to his guns.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
That's no.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
I mean, look, the numbers is what is paying his bill,
so I get where he's going to go. And to
be fair, there are a lot of teams that operate
based on those numbers, so I think it's good to have.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Guys in there like that.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
It's just it's just.
Speaker 5 (13:10):
If it's two, three, five, it changes the conversation when
it's that close, and so many pick him and it's
just one guy. You do, look at it when Derek
Jeter that was the other one you were thinking of,
Chris when Gita got in the Hall of Fame and
want one vote, So you say, who didn't vote for
Derek Jeta?
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Well, you know why they do that?
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Just I don't know how they determine it, right, But
it's like we don't want to let anybody be unanimous.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
But it's rid Mario except Mariano Rivera right, well, and
Derekjita played every day, Chris.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
He was a better player than Mario.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
Mario know about that, but it's it's they.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
Played every day and as the sixth most hits in
Major League Baseball his life and somebody didn't vote for him.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Well, we always talk about who didn't vote for Hank
Aaron right, vote for baby right?
Speaker 2 (14:01):
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are on this. Let's start with up Bert in Long Beach.
You're on the EYD couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Burt?
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Hey?
Speaker 7 (17:42):
I got doing doing great?
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Great? Man?
Speaker 9 (17:45):
How are you doing great?
Speaker 4 (17:47):
Great?
Speaker 7 (17:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (17:47):
I don't think he should have been unanimous.
Speaker 9 (17:50):
I'm kind of surprised them.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
See you didn't win it.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
Kind of you're kind of surprised that who didn't win it?
Speaker 3 (17:56):
CMC Christian mccarathin McCaffrey.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
Do you know the history of the m v P
in the NFL or not?
Speaker 1 (18:03):
I know, I know it's always a quarter back, but
it's sort of like to me, he just kind of
reminds me of Barry Standers and Brett park.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
You know, obviously Barry Sander should have won it back in.
Speaker 10 (18:11):
Ninety seven, but they didn't met with Brett Parr.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
So it's just like to me, it didn't make sense.
Speaker 10 (18:18):
I love Rock.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Forty too, but I think Christian had a great season
for the Niners, and I'm kind of talking that he
that he wanted that was, to.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Be honest, forty nine to one in your shocked, I'm a.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
Little shocked, to be honest.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
Yeah, okay, I mean.
Speaker 10 (18:33):
If you look at just the stats, just like the Major.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
Like, it's not just about stats, it's about winning.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Yeah, but won one more game. Yeah, he only won
one more game than dak And and Brock. Yeah, I
mean Caffrey, I.
Speaker 5 (18:48):
Mean, he'd beat better teams than those teams than than
I'm talking about that. I'm talking about Dak. I'm talking
about Dak. They Dak didn't beat the teams that they
needed to beat.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
I mean, I think he should have won, but I'm
I don't think it was so overwhelming, Like why do
you think it.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
Was forty nine to one? Oh, I'm just asking. I
don't think it was.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
I mean, different people have different reasons for I know,
just because that don't.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
Mean I'm not saying it. I'm just saying it's surprising.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
I think, like I think Party was hurt because of
the way he played head to head against Baltimore, and
obviously that was a great game for Lamar. I think
McCaffrey was hurt because he wasn't a quarterback and there
were games like when when they ran over Dallas San Francisco,
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McCaffrey didn't do much like fifty less than fifty yards rushing,
you know, So I think things like that, and I
think Dak, to your point, mostly beat up on Tomato cans.
He did beat Detroit, did beat Philly, but for the
most part, they beat up on the bad teams and
he didn't play well and they didn't beat.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Beat good teams.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
So I think those are reasons, and Josh Allen, you know,
their record wasn't as good they wanted.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
They came on late.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
So I think I just think there was other guys
that could you could justify voting for.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
And that's why I think he wasn't your damn.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
All right, Sean in Minneapolis, the couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
What's up, Sean?
Speaker 11 (20:16):
Not too much?
Speaker 1 (20:17):
I gotta go kind of quick.
Speaker 10 (20:18):
But do you think there's alternative motives here? The only
guy that didn't vote for him as his.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Own logistics company.
Speaker 10 (20:26):
And what they say bad press is good press.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Well, he definitely got some press that he wouldn't have
gotten before.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
I didn't think about that.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
I wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
I would doubt it, Rob, But I mean you never know.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
No, I would doubt it only from the standpoint of
and his point of it was forty five to five
and all pro So he couldn't know for sure, Chris,
that he was going to be the only night, do
you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (20:51):
If it were hardly presumed, he wouldn't be there exactly.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
I don't I really believe because of that voting, because
that comes out first. We've seen it before, are right,
that he probably thought, there's no way that I'm gonna
be the own.
Speaker 6 (21:04):
And I know that voter personally has been on a
few of the shows I produce, and I can tell
you he's just one of those guys who fundamentally believes
in his and analytics and the d V o A
and all that stuff that's to his core.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
What what he believes?
Speaker 3 (21:16):
I understand what got you to the dance?
Speaker 2 (21:20):
You should stick with that, you know how the old saying,
dance with who you brought to the dance?
Speaker 1 (21:25):
His robe.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
His whole livelihood is these analytics. So you know he's
going with it.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
I hear you, But I'm gonna split on his pocket protector.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
I'm not buying her, all right, I am.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
NERD knock you out now?
Speaker 5 (21:42):
Good right, Chris A numbers nerve by knock outright, Adam
and DC. You'll be the last one on this. You're
on the odd couple of Fox Sports Radar.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
What up at him?
Speaker 10 (21:51):
My God? My favorite radio show. Hey listen, man, I
cand of agree with Chris on this one. This was
a spread out Yeah, And honestly, man, I know I'm
a forty nine.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Well you sound bitter?
Speaker 10 (22:02):
No, I'm not bitter, man, I'm listen, man, I love
Lamar Man. I've been watching them since people living in college.
He made my counters call him all truth thing because
you always believed it. I'm not no hating man, you
know what I'm saying. If this was anybody else in
that forty nine or thirteen, and he would have won
the MVP, because I just give you our little history.
In two thousand and one, Kurt Warner the MVP for
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four interceptions one gay had three interceptions to following them
on the game before and he you know, he's still
he still won the MVT. I just think it was
too much. It was the second one, so I'm sure
that that's probably you know right, he got the benefits
of the doubt.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
But like, man, don't you think that game against Baltimore, though,
did brock perty in just beyond No?
Speaker 3 (22:42):
It definitely did he?
Speaker 10 (22:43):
Man, of course I didn't.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
Man, that was the game everybody was watching on Christmas night.
Speaker 10 (22:48):
But it's not a one game in AVT, it's a
season ABT.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
No.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
But coming in coming into that game, Chris, would you
write it was him and Lebar coming in?
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Yeah, it was tough. He didn't play as well. And
I get him saying that shouldn't the costume, but it does.
I mean he played exceptionally poor. Is his worst game
of the year, and for Lamar was his best gaming.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
Right, And let me play great against Miami Lamar this week.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
If you're still going, how confident are you on Sunday?
Speaker 10 (23:19):
Hey, man, this I'm I'm the most superstitious fan ever.
I'm confident. Man, I'm confident. I'm confident. I'm confident.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
You don't want to, Okay, I get it, Chris. Let
me tell you my my lift driver. The other night,
she was like when she was watching the Lions game.
She was a big forty nine Ers fan. She says,
she was sick to death. I couldn't sit down. I
paced the house. You know what football games do to you, Chris,
When you're invested like.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
That, you're like, cause you're a die hard either of
these teams. Yeah, it's I mean, I'm not, you know, Ron,
We've been reported so long, long time invested in any
one particular team other than we want our picks to
be right, yep.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
But yeah, this is for those die hards.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Yeah, they'll drive.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
Rob either way whichever side joined Bob do you remember
forty years ago when the Raiders win.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
The Super Bowl? How you pace the house? It was
back in the Louisiana Purchase.
Speaker 7 (24:17):
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Guys had to play in game, had a chance to
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How disappointing obumma that was that.
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Exactly, so so we all gained some experience from it.
But that's like the silver lining. But we're coming back
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I was gonna ask you about the rookie quarterback Anthony
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Then he got hurt.
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I mean, at what a bummer that was you know,
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And what I've seen from him even though he wasn't playing,
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you see a guy like who's locked in. You see
a guy who is who is mature and is working
on his craft even though he can't be out there playing,
and and like and like nobody talks about it, but
it is taxing on a young player's mental health watching
other players of his same caliber, like like and his
(30:37):
same position ball out, you know, like c J.
Speaker 5 (30:40):
Stroud, and it's got to be definitely frustrated.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
He'll be like I could be doing this exactly.
Speaker 9 (30:46):
So I felt like he has handled that great and
and and I can't say enough like good things about him.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
Our guest here on the odd Couple is coach wide
receiver Michael Pittman Jr. He's here on behalf of he
gets us. And uh, let's talk about you entering free agency. Yeah,
you're ready for the money bags? You ready to move on?
Speaker 4 (31:07):
Are you? You're hoping to stay with the cults if
they do right by you?
Speaker 7 (31:11):
Yeah? Yeah.
Speaker 9 (31:11):
So my biggest thing like is fit because obviously, like
I want to go somewhere where, where, where like I
can show what I can do, because like, you can
get paid, but if you're not producing like at that level,
then then like that money's gonna get pulled back like
like really fast. So what I'm more focused on is
finding that fit that is gonna that is gonna let
(31:32):
me showcase all of my attributes that I think make me,
uh the best player that I can be.
Speaker 5 (31:38):
Are you excited about it or apprehensive? Because you know,
like you know, it's kind of a mixed bag. Yeah,
you know, you're you're familiar with the cults exactly right,
But now maybe I might not be here.
Speaker 9 (31:50):
Yeah, So so it's kind of like a weird feeling
because obviously, like everybody that I've come to known like
over the past like four years, friends and people who
have become family. But one thing that I told myself is.
I won't sacrifice my career potential for comfortability.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
So don't be afraid to step out and do something.
Speaker 9 (32:11):
Different exactly because I only got one shot, and I
don't want to be wishing that I would have tried something.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
You know, I used to work at ESPN. Yeah, you
see what I'm saying. By you got it, it's okay?
Speaker 7 (32:22):
Yeah, all right.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
Let me ask you a couple of things. Super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (32:25):
Obviously the Chiefs made it back for a second year,
but it wasn't the same Chiefs. Let's just be honest.
Through the season, they look different to you. Offensively, they
were five and five the last ten games.
Speaker 7 (32:37):
Yeah, but then they've turned it on like as of late.
Speaker 9 (32:40):
And that is the thing with Patrick mahomes you like,
like it's so hard to go against him. Patrick Mahomes
is is one of the best players in the entire league.
And him like in Travis, like just like that pair
and everything that they've got. I mean, like even though
they weren't received as the normal Chiefs team, I mean,
(33:03):
whenever you.
Speaker 7 (33:04):
Got those guys, I mean like they're still don right.
Speaker 5 (33:06):
So all right, And last thing, the forty nine ers, Yep,
we got about a Minnesota finish up here, and I
want to ask. They came back and won their two
playoff games, which is impressive. They could have easily lost
both of those games. What does that do for a
team when you're going into a bigger game knowing that
even if something a hiccup or something doesn't go right
in the beginning, you can come back.
Speaker 9 (33:26):
Yeah, I mean, it just gives them confidence that it's
that it's never over and teams who can overcome that
usually have a lot of success. So it basically just
shows them, hey, like, we might be down by seventeen
fourteen points, but we can battle back and win this game.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
All right? Who you got in the game?
Speaker 7 (33:48):
Oh, it's so tough. It's so tough.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
Because give me a quick one in the score because
I really like Patrick.
Speaker 7 (33:53):
But I'm gonna go with the forty nine ers, all right.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
I'm with you on that.
Speaker 5 (33:56):
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Bank member fdic rob. Interesting comments made from another Dallas.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Cowboy Surprise Surprise.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
DeMarcus Lawrence was on first tape and he was asked
why they went out so quickly and meekly in the
first round of the playoffs after such a great regular season.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
Here they use the word embarrassing too.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Well, here's what he said.
Speaker 11 (35:08):
You mentioned how you wish your team was here, what happened,
and why your team isn't here? All honesty. I think
the main thing is who's burnt out?
Speaker 3 (35:21):
Man?
Speaker 11 (35:22):
You know, long season team dominatly healthy throughout the season.
Speaker 7 (35:27):
You know the legs get tired.
Speaker 11 (35:29):
But also you know you gotta give hats out the
Green Bay man. They came out with a great game plan.
Speaker 5 (35:35):
I'm sorry, Chris, really it burnt out? What the package
burnt out?
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Too?
Speaker 7 (35:43):
Well?
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Why wasn't every other team in the league burned out?
Did they play playoffs?
Speaker 5 (35:47):
Did they play twenty four games that everybody else play seventeen?
Speaker 4 (35:50):
Come on, man, what burnt out?
Speaker 5 (35:54):
These guys are world class athletes at the peak of
human life, right to be athlete. To say you what
burnt out as the reason why you lost is the
most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
I think that's about the worst thing you could say,
other than when you know, to be honest, we just quit,
like really.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
I mean, it's your job to be ready.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
And I'm gonna say this, Rob, because I totally agree
with you one hundred percent. And I heard other commentators
talking about this comment and ripping him, and rightly so.
But here's where I haven't heard anybody say this, And
I firmly believe this is what he's talking about, and
he may not even know how to articulate it, you know, Rob,
(36:42):
For years, I've beaten the drum about this culture that
Jerry Jones is created that.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
Creates undue pressure on his players.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
When it's interesting to use the term burnt out, Rob,
he didn't say we were tired, We were team, we
were out of shape. The things referring to your physicality
he burnt out means and again he may not have
meanted this way, but it means mentally spent. We were
(37:17):
just emotionally exhausted. Why because from day one, Jerry Jones
creates an atmosphere where there is so much pressure on
these guys. He's talking about a super Bowl from day one,
and most teams ralh They go week to week, don't.
(37:39):
Most college coaches of Jim Harbaugh says or Ryan Dant
Ohio State, we want to win the Big Ten. If
you win the Big Ten, then you can If you
get that's the first step to be in the National
champion and then you have a chance to continue. Right, Right,
Most teams in the NFL are like week to week.
The biggest game is the next one on the schedule.
(38:01):
Cowboys are already in training camp talking about the Super
Bowl and rob like a team like to be honest,
whichever team wins Sunday, but particularly if it's the Kansas
City Chiefs, and that will be two straight Super Bowls
for them, right, they are going to have a hard
time next year in the regular season because it's gonna be.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
Like, all that matters for us is January, right.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
What we're gonna do is just play well enough to
get in yep.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
And that when you know, when you have to play
seventeen games knowing that none of it matters except what
you do in the playoffs that can burn you out.
And I think without again, he may know it, he
may not, But to me, that is what DeMarcus Lawrence
is really referring to and what his teammates may have
(38:55):
felt too.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
Man, we burn out. It don't matter we beat teams
by forty whatever.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
It don't matter that we beat Detroit at the end
of the season, that we beat Philadelphia, all that matters.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
It doesn't matter we went twelve and five.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
All that matters is what are we going to do
in the playoffs that can burn you out?
Speaker 3 (39:17):
That's what I think is going went on with them.
Speaker 5 (39:20):
Yeah, let's just just for that to come out of
his mouth. You might be right, and the and the
choice of words burnt out. It sounds more mental, right, right,
even if physical emotional?
Speaker 4 (39:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (39:35):
Yeah, I just how can it be physical?
Speaker 2 (39:38):
I mean unless they're just totally dogging it, Like, come on,
I don't.
Speaker 4 (39:41):
Think that Chris they won sixteen straight and home.
Speaker 5 (39:44):
That was there was no reason to think, under any
circumstance that they were not going to be Green Bay.
This wasn't on the road where they were the average team,
Chris five hundred team, right, this is at home where
they dominate. They don't even only just win in Dallas.
They annihilatele.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
Yeah, no, it was. It was mental. But that's that's
why I say, Robin.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
People might say, oh, what's that got to do with
being on the field and playing it? Man, Look, everything
is as a mental component, and Rob it'd be like
if you and I had to do the show every
night with our bosses standing over our shoulder watching every word.
We say, you know what I mean? Like that that
(40:30):
will burn you out. You gonna tell me the Cowboys
the players don't feel like that's every game, every play,
every practice. This dude is figuratively looking over my shoulder.
I mean, that's what I think it is. Chris and Jerry.
I'm trying to give you some good advice. Man, go chill,
(40:52):
go fishing, Chris, go canoeing, go on your yacht.
Speaker 4 (40:58):
I found I found a hat that fit your head.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
What is that? That purple is the super Bowl on it.
Speaker 4 (41:06):
Yeah, super Bowl. Look at that hat.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Look out bigger than finally, something that made your your
head fit.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
That's what it is. Keep it locked. A couple
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