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the one gotta go.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
It is different, Okay, Yeah, we're mixing because we're gonna
do a longer conversation about it.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Yeah, we'll do that, all right, we'll do that in
much more. Rob G. Last night in Las Vegas? Was it?
Was it a big crowd? Was it a sellout crowd?
Was surprising? A few stars up in there?
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Yeah, but this December is not like the greatest time
to go to Vegas, which is kind of weird, but anyway, Uh,
the Knicks beat the Spurs for the NBA Cup.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Rob g Yes, they did.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
They put on quite a show and it surprisingly, even
though he ended up winning the MVP, it wasn't just
Jalen Brunton that got it done.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
He went.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
They got Oh, Jennybody good, Cat was okay, Josh Hart
was rough, thecal Bridges was rough.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
You gotta pause that now, you guys need to get
your minds out what you was saying. You gotta hold
on now.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
They went into the fourth quarter down seven and found
a way to come out and storm to an eleven
point victory thanks to the bench mob of Mitchell Robinson,
Jordan Clarkson, Tyler Kohlik. And because of that, the New
York Knickerbockers are now the third official winner of the
NBA Cup. What sets them apart from the previous two, however,
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the Lakers two years ago and the Milwaukee Bucks last year,
is Unlike the previous winners, the Knicks have decided they
will not not be hanging up the banner at Madison
Square Guarden. This despite the fact that they have not
hung up a single banner since making the Eastern Conference
Finals in nineteen ninety nine.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Can I do this for the New York Knicks? What
you're gonna do? I'm gonna stand up. I'm not getting
up on the table.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Those on radio, he's standing, he's applauding. Thank you for
not getting to table last time. He almost died. Why
are you applauding.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Because the New York Knicks had the guts, the cojones.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
How you almost die again?
Speaker 1 (03:57):
How you almost died sitting down to tell Adam Silver
that this bogus NBA Cup is illegitimate. That's what the
Knicks did. Bravo, bravo. Shame on the other teams that
hung those banners. Shame on the Lakers, Shame on the Bucks.
(04:18):
Take them down. You should take them down now, because
the Knicks are telling you what really happened. And this
was discussed even before they wanted that if they wanted,
they would not hang the banner. The Knicks haven't won
a championship since nineteen seventy three.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
I thought, Dick, now you go on.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
The Louisiana purchase was an s problem. And think about this,
of all teams dying to hang some sort of banner
to say, look at us, look at what we did.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
The Knicks did not buy into that. They're trying to
win a championship.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
That's the banner you raise, or a retired coach or
retired player, those are the only banners that should be
raised inside your arena, stadium or whatever. When you start
putting up these little, phony, gimmicky milestones, it's ridiculous. And
Adam Silver, I mean he begged the Lakers to put
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the banner up because he knew that, you know, like
to make it try to be legitimate. And now if
I'm the Lakers or the Bucks, I would definitely be like,
why did we put it up?
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Like seriously, I would.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
I would really question it, because the Bucks have They've
won championships in their history, one a few a couple
of years ago.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
We know about the Lakers with all the banners.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Okay, really when the Lakers put this up, rob Gi,
you remember, I questioned it.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
I really did. I thought, why would they?
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Why would have a proud and story franchise put up
some gimmicky banner that didn't even mean anything. Asked Darvin Ham,
who got fired despite winning the first one. Darvin, darn
your hands out your pockets, but that didn't help them.
They didn't go How could you fire I won the
NBA Cup because it doesn't matter, Adam Silver?
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Is this on?
Speaker 1 (06:05):
The Knicks just threw a wet blanket over your NBA Cup.
They don't valuate, fans don't valuate. Come on, man, this
is not soccer. Can you stop it? Don't make the
NBA soccer. You guys are trying too hard with all
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these gimmicks and stuff. Just play basketball. Make these guys play.
You want you I got the plan you want to
You want to know how to get these guys to play.
If you're healthy and you don't play, you get zero's
in your scoring average across the board. You tell me
guys would do that? That would crush your lifetime career average.
(06:47):
If you got zero fifteen games of zero points? Am
I righting hurt? That would hurt you that if you're
playing and you're not hurt, and if you do say
claim that you're hurt, you gotta miss a min them
them off three games. If you claim that you're hurt, right,
and we can't all right, he says he's hurt, you
can't come back. So you can't just miss the bad game.
(07:09):
You might have a big game or a rival or
TV exactly, So you gotta miss at least three games.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
All right, that's interesting. It ain't gonna work, but that's interesting.
I do like, I ain't mad at it's spinning around
ideas and now. So that's where I'm also not mad
like I think. We're at the NBA N Season Tournament.
It's here, it's here to stay for now. Obviously, I'm
silver been kind of licking his finger, put in the
air in the win and see where the wind's blowing.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
But a couple of things. I hear what you're saying,
but I ain't buying it.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
You know how I'll buy it, rob Because all them
nick players went crazy when they know they're about to
get a half a million dollars. They jumping around, going
crazy excited about all that money.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
So if you don't want all.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
That money, how much is that after taxes? That they're
at their tax bride?
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Do you know how many of them dudes are the
last third of that team? Half a million dollars is
real money. That's two hundred thousand dollars, that's real money.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
They actually they even broke it down, some guys only
making a million and a half two million. You already
know give half the tax and give half to agents.
Now you're telling me I'm gonna get another two three hundred.
That's a lot of money stock And as we always
talk about, you already need a salary.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Come on, man, you're in the NBA. You're a million,
don't thousand?
Speaker 4 (08:17):
And I guess what that they gave me, rob g
I work every day here, and if they came in
and said we're gonna give you an extra you know,
two hundred thousand dollars for doing the same thing, sign
me up.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
They don't even count the status as playoff stats. But
my bank counter that money. They don't even count the stats.
That's how important I'm not.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
No, I'm not acting like the end season is like now,
all of a sudden, you're champions. But to me, you
can't act. You're hanging a banner, right and so to
me a couple of things. A thing doesn't become a
thing until it does. And what I mean by that
is the nd season tournament right now is new and
ten twenty fifteen years we might be like that's a
real thing.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Just like if I told you was that I'm not listen.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Yes, I'll tell you why if I told you a
guy was it All Star MVP, you would have been like,
all right, now that's a real thing.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
We start doing qualifications. He's a ten times star, he
three time All Star MVP. We start reading off things
that become things. So I get it. I'm here, I'm
with you now that it's not I'm not saying it's
a champion. Robin Haham couldn't even keep his job and
he wanted Garverham could have helped by looking like he
wants to keep That's my point that it didn't mean it.
But at the end of the day, it didn't mean that.
And I'm not disagreeing. What I'm saying is this is
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the first. That was the first one. Then you have
three of them and all now in the third.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
And I'm not saying you got to make a spectacle
and have a parade, But if you get half a
million dollars to each player, that's crazy money and that's
a real thing. And if the Lakers put it up
to your point, the Lakers got millions.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Of championship banners.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
What is it, eighteen of them, Rob they got some
of the big name players.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
I don't care.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
You can put it a little small one over there,
because they you know what people put up. They put
up division titles, Pacific West title and NBA Central Division titles. Terrible,
they put those up there too.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
I'm just saying, Rob g Ain't that the story that
the league begged them to do it.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
For the Lakers? Yeah, they asked them.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
The Lakers are the wrong team to win though, because
they only hang up NBA chance.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
No, but that's because they do it right. That's what
they should. Every other team doesn't.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Well, but they don't do it right. The Lions have
like they won the North for the first time, and.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
A lot of teams do that.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
A lot of teams who Central Division in this division,
that a lot of teams.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
The one thing I will agree with Kelvin on is
it's really ridiculous that they're like, hey, we're not going
to hang up this banner because we know we're only
hanging up championship banners, right, that's what we're worried about. However,
in the postgame celebration, they're popping bottles, they're screaming they
got the smoke machine. Any chance to call Anthony Towns
was facetiming. Ben Steeler and Timothy Shallon May in the
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locker room exactly like they did. So don't tell me
it doesn't matter to you when you're doing all of
the history onics, but you're you're worried about cool.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
I don't want to put the matter. I don't want
to know. You're in the most problem.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
The game is over. They got free champagne. Come on, man,
and confetti's falling in your hair like Dandre, you.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
Don't know it didn't matter, just said it didn't matter,
but obviously it does matter to them.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
No, but I'm saying, you're not gonna be like, all right,
oh yeah, this is what's unbelievable that we won the
NBA Cup. You're a baseball guy. They look like they
won a wild card. So if they play one hundred
and sixty two games, what I'm saying, no, But what
I'm saying, no, no, But the NBA team look like
that is what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
I'm not mad at baseball. What I'm saying is the
NBA team look like. I think that that thing is
a sham. It's a it's just a made up phony, but.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
It literally is though, Like it's exactly My point is
nobody up something till it's something.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
No, everything doesn't work like that.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
They made made up a spring football league and people
don't show up. You know what, Well, yes, the NFL
has done all the NFL has done europe leagues, they've
done all kinds of leagues they've been involved.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Was terrible and up.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
All I'm saying is you could start something and act
like it's something special.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
No cash, do cast my check. That's a half a
million back buying.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
I can't wait to hear from fans what they got
And are you buying into this? I just they buying
it with a half a million dollars Rob eight seven
seven ninety nine on Fox. As soon as Rob Parker won,
I'll be hello US bank or somebody yet.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
No, don't let him cast his check. He talking smack.
I wouldn't take my check. You know what you love?
You love money, Stoppy.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
You'd be right there and you'd be man with some
sunglasses and the big old had on casting your check.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Yeah he cass check. Yeah, my d season tournament check
Ye eight.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Seven seven ninety nine on Fox, and they have to
be direct to pocket.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
I wouldn't be dead cashing that check.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
That's actually a funny one eight, seven, seven ninety nine
on Fox Do you agree with the Nicks choosing not
NT to hang the NBA cup banner. We'll continue that
conversation next with you. I definitely want to hear what
people say they're into this.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
I think it's gonna be fifty to fifty. I'm gonna
say it's seventy eighty twenty No right here.
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Right eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox The Knicks
aren't hanging the banners, which Rob is saying, great, it
legitimizes the fact that this ain't it. He wants Adam
Silver to know that. I say, I hear that in all,
but then don't cast my checks A seven seven ninety
nine on Fox.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
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You're on the odd couple. Fox Sports Radio. What's up Justin?
Speaker 7 (14:52):
Good evening, guys, Good evening. Hey, yeah, I agree with you, Rob.
I think it's in Charles bar He nailed it, man.
Speaker 8 (15:01):
I love Charles for this.
Speaker 7 (15:02):
He is not afraid to call this stuff out. It's foolishness.
Speaker 9 (15:06):
Man.
Speaker 10 (15:07):
What are we doing?
Speaker 7 (15:08):
So you got to pay these guys extra money, yes,
to play basketball when they're already getting highly compensated.
Speaker 8 (15:15):
I don't know what the league minimum.
Speaker 7 (15:16):
And it's got to be like a million dollars.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Right, more than that might be like one and a
half two now.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
And as you know, these on extra games, these are
the regular season games that were already on your schedule that.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
You were paid for us against money.
Speaker 8 (15:31):
It's blasphemy. And David s Terr's got to be rolling
in his grave.
Speaker 7 (15:35):
Man.
Speaker 10 (15:35):
This is not the.
Speaker 8 (15:36):
NBA this man created.
Speaker 7 (15:38):
So you know the hands that he left.
Speaker 9 (15:40):
It in, I should say.
Speaker 7 (15:41):
You know when he when he gave it over. This
is this is not what he had wanted, man, this
is this is embarrassment.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Guys, Thanks for the call. Appreciation, appreciate it. Who next,
Terry in?
Speaker 4 (15:53):
Is that North cal North California?
Speaker 11 (15:56):
Yes, you're in the outcome in California? Guys, How are
you better than I deserve? Fellas how about yourself.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
I would be good to if I had another tooth
in my mouth, But that's another story.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Still looking for the tooth.
Speaker 11 (16:09):
Fair So the way I look at it is is
just kind of reminds me a little bit of that
movie Semi Pro with Will Ferrell.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Yes, I was in it.
Speaker 11 (16:19):
How he made up he made up that that that deal,
you know what I mean, just to make him make
those games seem more important, you know what I mean.
That's the way I'm looking at it. You know, as
far as like the best mid season anything, you know
what I mean? I think the four nations playoff and
hockey knocked out of the park. I see them do
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something like that.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Let me ask you why why did that?
Speaker 7 (16:43):
Like?
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Why?
Speaker 4 (16:43):
So if you're if I'm Adam Silver, I'm saying, well
that work? Why what do I need to make this work?
Speaker 10 (16:50):
Pride?
Speaker 11 (16:50):
You know what I mean? If you get like it
in Canada and people from Spain and all.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
But the difference is, can I say this, let me
say the different nobody hod hockey fans aren't saying these
guys are dogging it during the regular season and they're
not playing. That's not an issue that they have in hockey.
There's so many different nationalities, am I right? And that's
why this works because you have.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Pride for your country. Right, You're from Canada, that's their swart.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
If you're a Canadian, you want to beat the United States,
you want to beat defends.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
You know what I mean? They ever won, of the lost,
they'll be winning no more. Rob, we took it.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Give me that eight seven, Give me a Hockey ninety
nine on Fox Shan in Sacramento.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
You're on the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Sewan?
Speaker 10 (17:33):
Yeah, from another mother cousin Kelly or my brother's mind
the boy hoppy holidays, see y'all fellas.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Man, Happy holiday, Sewan, Man.
Speaker 12 (17:42):
I ain't Kelly.
Speaker 10 (17:43):
You're probably doing as bad as I am right now
with all these damn kids.
Speaker 8 (17:45):
But man, on this.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Point, man, listen, bro, I just I literally don't even
think or look. I just deal with it. It is
what it is.
Speaker 12 (17:52):
I'm damn near about to just start forking over Cassidy's
little grimlins, but this real quick man.
Speaker 10 (17:57):
First of all, just some notes from the first half
of the show. A fish had me chuckling, laughing out loud, amazing,
the missing the tooth, from a woman missing the tooth.
From Kelvin Come on, Kelvin, bro you're gonna be in
this caution this cautionary tape, but the one that killed
it asking Monte she's ever had a thumb before, brou
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Come on, come on, y'all, boys are on fire as
far as the cup goes, Man, it's a shame. Teams
like the Lakers, the next big mainstream you know, two
of the biggest franchises maybe outside of Boston in the NBA,
are winning these cups because to me, here's the format. Man,
twenty five and under are in the tournament. Let these
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old guys who want to rest every damn game anyway,
take the tournament off. That way, they get a little break.
Midway through the season.
Speaker 12 (18:45):
We get exposure to these new up and coming guys
and teams like the Siberia Kings, the Indianapolis Pacers, these
teams that like have young up and coming guys who
may not have the success.
Speaker 10 (18:57):
Of winning the championship within the next two or three years,
they get a chance to win a cup and we
get to hoist one of those terrible banners in a
place like Sacramento, because we ain't getting nothing else.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Anyway, that's not a crazy idea.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
But you can't spawn that over like a month. That's
one thing they need to do. Make this a one
week thing and it's done. I will that they make
it a little too long. You can't remember what game is.
What doesn't count is like if.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
I'm picking games on shekel that don't even be employed.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Yeah, it's too confusing. It needs to be like a
week boom boom boom. Week and a half is done.
It's too long.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
John Clovis, California, you're in the odd couple of Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
What's up, John? How are you?
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Man?
Speaker 9 (19:33):
I'm good you guys, good show, Thank.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
You, thank you, shit man, Happy holidays. Yes, we appreciate back.
Speaker 9 (19:39):
At your baby. They can't raise that banner because they
haven't done anything since Bill Jackson was running around in Sure.
Speaker 8 (19:47):
Yeah that's my joke there.
Speaker 9 (19:48):
But I can tell you this, the Lakers can raise
it because they you know that winning is franchise. Well
now they're behind the Celtics, I believe, But you know, realistically,
who's not going to take that money. Who's not going
to ball out and try and win and take that
money because that's a nice paycheck, right, I don't know what.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Rock talking about.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Rob over here shopping in that ross, trying to find
a deal, and now you put on five hundred thousand
dollars and it's two hundred and ten after taxes. But John,
here's my point. It didn't save Darvin Ham nobody really,
you know.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
What I mean? Like, it's not like, oh my god,
they won the banner and I with you, with you Okay, Okay,
that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 11 (20:27):
But they could buy you a tooth oh as much
as I paid for them to take my tooth out.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
And I need that, John, John Snipe you. I appreciate you.
All right.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
We got Spincer Tibban on the other side of trending.
Manzi Blanos is gonna get you set right now. Hey Manzi,
Hey Manti, do you have all your teeth?
Speaker 2 (20:47):
I have all my teeth?
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Okay, yes, I'm good.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
What the third hour question gonna because it's just as
right keeps asked you questions.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
I don't know what's third Yeah, no, I can't tell.
You're missing the tooth, so I don't know if you've
had one there.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
That's I'm not sure you have one. What are you
guys saying you look the exact same today. I had
a tooth dam out here, no lift, no problem. When
I'm drinking the soda, stop.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Because you're putting it through Stop it.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
My most is completely closed. Look footballs clearly the field
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Speaker 3 (21:49):
Happy holidays?
Speaker 8 (21:50):
A happy holidays man? How you guys holding up?
Speaker 4 (21:53):
We're doing great. Yeah, we can't complain out here. You know,
great weather in southern California. Holidays flying up. I got
family coming into All things are Spencer.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Do you have an extra tooth for me? That's all
I'm in need of. I mean an extra yeah, you know,
he literally means that. By the way, Spencer, he's actually
not joking.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
They took my tooth out. I had a crack. Oh
my god, I'm going through it.
Speaker 8 (22:13):
You know.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Here as whistling as he's talking about that's that's all good.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
All right, man, Let's get to some college football. We
got college for what playoffs? It seems like everything's flying by,
and now we're here. We got the first round game.
We got Oklahoma versus Alabama. Two obviously blue bloods if
you will, in college football, but should be a good one.
What are you making of this one eight seed in
the nine seed?
Speaker 8 (22:35):
Well, listen, I think what's the old axiom is, it's
really tough to beat somebody twice. But I think Oklahoma,
hey listen, obviously you got to put an askist by
my comments. I think Oklahoma is probably hit up and
set up best to deal with this Alabama team. Neither
one of them really impressed you offensively, right when you
look at their defensive front, they're really impressive and at
the front seventh foro Oklahoma to me is next level.
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I mean, they really are impressive. They're so disruptive and consistently.
So I think what will happen is with a healthy quarterback,
with MATERII healthy one hundred percent, I think that's going
to be the difference. If they don't turn the ball
over and just kind of looking at the game last
night again from earlier in the year. There's only like
three point difference in that one, but seventeen of those
points came off of turnovers, so or you the miscues, right,
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So it's really rare that you're going to get three turnovers.
Get Alabama to do that three times in another game.
But the game is in Norman. That's the key for them.
The quarterback is healthy for Oklahoma. I think that's really
going to be the difference in the ball game. It's
going to be a street fight. Two defensive slugs out
and then whoever comes up with enough points on the
offensive side is going to win the thing.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Yeah, this ain't the Nick Saban Alabama team, but they
got a chance.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
They're in it all right, Spenceer, I need to ask
you about James Madison and Tulane.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Was this are they deserving or is this college football welfare?
Where are we on this? Try to figure out what
is this?
Speaker 8 (23:58):
I got all mad Respectabil Napier. Anybody will take that
job man in that situation. You know it was when
Jeffy left. I think the bottom line was everybody was
wondering if this team could be successful. Obviously they've proven
they can be. The problem is it gets white Washington
kind of wipe it out by the mess that we
have in this college football format. Even though we've expanded
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to twelve and dealt with some of the skeletons in
the closet from the old system, what we've done is
created a fodder arrangement where now people can can can
comment and talk about the system. It's being kind of
this dei kind of arrangement, you know. With obviously two
Lane and Old Bess in that game that was an
ugly contest they played earlier in the year. What it
was thirty five point differential in that game. It's just
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it's just ugly, man, And it looks like you got
two teams down here that are there as a result
of a gift, right, and that that doesn't look good
for college football. And I get tired of addressing it
because it's a very complicated issue and it much more
is much more significant in terms of its real application.
But we live in the world images and impressions. Most
people aren't interested in pulling away the veneer to find
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out why these things happen. But there is a sinister
spirit in college football that is neo colonial at its
core that is still responsible for this kind of crap
that we have right now, guys. And that's all I'm
going to say about it, because I write about it extensively.
But the bottom line is this, we've got to do
something about this because the spirit of what's all wrong
with college football is alive and well, I mean, I
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kind of look at the sport like a three legged stool.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Right.
Speaker 8 (25:29):
You got two well developed legs of that school. You
got the universities themselves, and then you have the television networks,
which we're all a part of and familiar with, and
then you have the I call them student producers. Don't
call them student athletes. I call them what they are,
student producers. They got five years to get four years
of eligibility in they come in with this asymmetry of information.
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They know the least among all the players and all
of the establishment legacy folks that are in here are
the adults in the room, supposed to be the smartest
people in the room. They've got to figure this thing out.
Figured out. I wrote a preamble. In fact, I wrote
a magna carter for college football, and I'll be releasing
later this year. It's gonna be a roadmap for exactly
what they need to do to fix it. And I
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know I'm not the smartest guy in the room, but
I love the sport and have been around it, and
they have been involved in all three of those legs,
So I understand where the rocks are. I understand going
all the way back to eighteen sixty five when this
thing came about. You know, I go that nerd in
that regard, So I know what's wrong with the game.
I'm just sad and that we haven't figured it out.
And again how this all turns around and comes back
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to why we've got two teams in this playoff structure
that shouldn't be in there. It's emblematic of a bigger,
deeper issue, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Great, All right, there it is, Magna Carter. What is
that coming out? We got to have you back on
once that comes out.
Speaker 8 (26:44):
Yeah, yeah, it'll be out in the spring. We've got
some massive class forces that I'll be teaching at the
University of Oklahoma. Then we're doing a twenty three city tour.
We're going to do a one day event for each one,
and I'll present the history of college football over the
course of a day, and you know your audience can
go look proceeds p r o ce ed college Football
to CFB app that's appai dot org and so if
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you go there you can find it. Just google it.
If it's I know it's a long url, just google
me and whatever and you can find it. Man, the
Massis class course has been a long time coming. It's
been a pet project of mine. Are excited about it,
all right, man, I love it.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
I do want to go here.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Sharon Moore Michigan just for sure a reaction to what
went down. And you know, we've seen these coaches get
in trouble and obviously by by having relationships when with subordinates,
this is not new.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
A lot have gotten you know, lost jobs over it.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
But then he took it to another level with the
felonies and all the other charges, which is sad. And
then number two, uh, where does Michigan go as far
as trying to get a coach to replace him? So first,
just when you heard the news about Sharon Moore, what'd
you think?
Speaker 8 (27:54):
Well? I was hard broke and I was disappointed. I
mean I love this sport so much and all for
all the reasons I just mentioned about living in a
world of images and impressions, most people aren't interested in
pulling away the veneer to find out why we are
where we are and how we get to where we
get to. And so people have already made a judgment
about them before they knew anything about what was going on.
But now we know the details of it, and it's ugly,
it's sorted, but you know what, let's not forget Bobby
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Patrino did something that was some pretty dark.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
We talk about it all the time, and Rick Patino
how a long list.
Speaker 8 (28:24):
Yeah, So it's just that the element of recency comes
into play, that is to say, it happens recently in
it and given the climate we're in politically right now,
it even becomes even easier, low lye through for people
who subscribe to those types of ideologies about this particular
cohort to manipulate it even more. And that's the part
about it.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Now.
Speaker 8 (28:44):
I don't get wrapped up in it. I don't get
preoccupied because we all know the truth in the matter
right in terms of anybody could have done that, I mean,
we've seen it. There is no respective person when it
comes to bad actors. Anybody is susceptible to doing these
stupid things. It just so happens. This nation, this three,
this world has this precarious relationship with people of color
that is unavoidable. And when you see a person do
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something like that, it is compounded. And that's that's problematic,
and that's the you know, the elephant in the room,
so to speak.
Speaker 7 (29:12):
So maybe to.
Speaker 8 (29:12):
Put a lighter spin on it, and I would just
say this that my grandfather used to always tell me, son,
don't get your honey where you make your money.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
There you go. Yeah, I mean, it's so simple, and
I agree.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
I mean, there's a lot of situations where guys put
themselves in jeopardy and it's just not worth it.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
And as we mentioned, it's happened before and unfortunately it's
gonna happen again. He is Yeah, guy is gonna say
Spencer Tillman joining the I couple, Robin Kevin on a
worship Wednesday.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
I just want to get Michigan. Obviously they got their recruits.
Has happened after but who's on the radar to to
uh take that job at Michigan or they're going to
have a go between or somebody a filler until they
can get their guy.
Speaker 8 (29:52):
Well, listen. I know you guys up against it. I
will just say this real quickly. I think Michigan needs
to be really careful. This hire has to be the
right hire, and every chancellor president in the nation needs
to understand an inflection point just happened in college football,
and this is the first year of it. No longer
is about command and control from your head coach. You
need to have an architect who can instill agency and
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then ultimately gratitude in their players. You cannot be an
authoritarian and have success. I know this sounds crazy some people,
but Nick Saban could only have the wild kind of
success that he had in the Deep South at an
LSU at an Alabama. He could not have gone to
UCLA or USC and had the same kind of success
with the approach that he had. And it is a
regional need identify thing. I speak with coaches every single day.
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I know what they're up against. I know it will
sell and what will work in certain parts of the
country and where it won't work anyplace else. Michigan has
got to get this right because it's not going to
be the traditional coaches. They're thinking it's going to be
successful there, and that's all I will say about that.
There's about three or four guys that probably could be
frontrunners for it, but you've got to understand we're in
a different paradigm now, man, in college football.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
All right, I love it, man, you got it got
to going on right here with all the insight. That's right, Bencher,
We appreciate you, man, Man Christmas, Happy Holidays to your doubt.
Spencer Tillman, give him a follow. Spence Tillman on X Yeah,
he was yes ready.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
But that's Spencer Tillman. He's strong.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
He comes to the mic strong. He was bringing it
all right all the way. We got ones gotta go.
We'll do that next. It's your boys, The Odd Couple
on a wors of Wednesday, Fox Sports Radio.
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Speaker 4 (31:35):
All right, Alex, you be finding some some nice ones
out here in these streets. DJ Ali Alex on the Ones,
the Twos on the Worship Wednesday IY Couple, Robin Kelvin
stick with you boys, all right, So it's time for
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Now time for one's gotta go.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
That even number.
Speaker 8 (32:17):
Figure it out.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Hear me, hear me out? All right?
Speaker 4 (32:21):
So in a matter of hours at some point, I'll
have family coming in for the holidays.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Can't wait to see my family. Haven't seen him in
a little bit. My girls are gonna be next weekend.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Oh that's gonna be after Christy, after Chris. Why do
you want my family to come next weekend? Let me
let me be putting them out and tell them my
family can come.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
So here's what I got for all of you, Manzi,
Rob's and Alex and you listening as well, and YouTube
Rob with all his teeth and Rob missing the yeah
toothless Rob and Rob g Well dang.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
Matter of fact, it's double. One's got a haircut and teeth.
And all right, here we go with family, friends, whoever
you may be housing coming in. I got a question
for you. All right, you got family coming in town
for the holidays or for something. One's gotta go picking
up and dropping off, you know, taking them to and
(33:10):
fro the airport ain't happening, hold home, them staying at
your home ain't happening.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Tour guide meaning you.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Gotta be you know, oh I want to go see
Hollywood or I want to go to the Santa Monica.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
You gotta you know, I got take them around, take
them around, no wonder nobody's coming to mouth. And then
I know so far you said all of them gotta go. Huh,
this is the new one. All gotta go, not one.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
And then also just the expenses, meaning like oh, I'm
gonna I'm gonna take care of dinner. You're in my town,
you know, welcome dinner or all we want ice?
Speaker 3 (33:36):
Family, You're not you count money when your family's in.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
Town, Then say I am. I'm giving you your choices.
So one's gotta go housing family or friends or whomever
it may be. Picking up in the dropping off of airports,
all that house. People staying with you, tour guide, you
know you gotta take them all around, show them Mela,
show them all the cool stuff, take them all to
Alex hiking spots.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
You left off one thing? What's that? Giving them a
play for Christmas? No, what you're talking about? You and
Alex thing going right here? All right?
Speaker 4 (34:05):
And the expenses, like I said, just the cost of
little things, the little knick knacks here in there that
you're gonna cover.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Who wants to set it off? I'll go first. I'll
go first.
Speaker 13 (34:15):
I think it for me, uh huh, probably has to
go paying for like dinner and stuff like you're probably
gonna stay with me. I'm probably gonna have to pick
you up, and I probably have to be a tour guide.
So at least you buy me dinner. Okay, you know
what I'm saying, Like that's probably for me.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
I get it.
Speaker 13 (34:32):
That one's gotta go and I gotta go to the restroom.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
So by literally you oh go, okay, good talking to you?
All right?
Speaker 4 (34:38):
That was tm I that was too well. This whole
show has been that so far. Uh Rob, g Alex, Rob,
what you got My house is already full. Nobody staying
in my house?
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Well he does, he did, and you just have an
extension put on the.
Speaker 5 (34:53):
High I did the exteriors hooks better, but I didn't
add any square footage list, right.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
So you're sending them the Airbnb links?
Speaker 5 (35:03):
Yeah, Like, hey, look, this is where we're gonna be.
This is where we're gonna be available. I would love
to get together with you, but like my family time
and my personal dime was my time. I don't need people.
I only got one shower, Like, we don't need six
other people in that.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Okay, I respect it.
Speaker 6 (35:17):
Alex Rober you kind of swayed me on that one
a little bit. Not even people over in your personal
space and your crib especially. We all can't be like
Rod Parker. We got a downsize. So I'm gonna say
this one, and it's just from my teeth downside, this
is mine. I don't like to picking up and dropping
off when you take you.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
I'm not picking you up. It's a headache to go
to the airport to take a car. I'm that serious.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Like to drive around and try to figure out like, okay,
I can't park here.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
I'm gonna get a tea out and here's the one
time and they're getting off, they get their.
Speaker 6 (35:49):
Bags and here's the next part. Now I'm in duty
like I'm the head to get you around places now too,
because I picked you up. So now you have no car,
Just rent a car so you can go where you want,
goes you please, et cetera.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
It's a lot of at bottle. I'm okay, we're like this.
I'm sure enough. Why we are too? We are you too? Rob?
You and I? Well, this is one time you have
to like well like Josh Hart and Jalen Bronson. Who's Josh?
Who Josh? And who's Jalen? I'm Josh.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Either way, it's bad. The more I think about it,
there's no good way around. That's trumb thumbs up, thumbs out,
thumbs down. Even crazier.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
You know somebody have on a T shirt at the
next Nick game. Are you kidding?
Speaker 4 (36:35):
We're gonna talk more about it the top of the
next hour. I'm with you, guys. We're tripless on this one.
It's to pick it up and dropping off. Number one,
I'm a little distance. How you guys know where I live?
Number two? As you mentioned, it's just a lot make money.
You can live closer to your Well, no, that's the
reason why I'm away from it.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
I don't you know.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
I have my reasons for me. I'll pay for the driver,
I'll pay for the uber. Whatever I saw on your boy.
The other ones I don't mind, like to go to
your house that's about one hundred dollars from the airport.
I got you, okay, I got you.
Speaker 6 (37:04):
Yeah, because we're like a commuting city, you know, like
if we're in some rural place where it doesn't matter,
I don't mind them driving trying.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
It sucks out here how close to the airport, and
I love it.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
I'm dead serious because you know, I travel a lot obviously,
so it was it's important for me not to not
be down to see.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
But that and the thing, I live close to Burbank,
so half of my trips around of Lax, the other
half I fly to Burbank.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
With that being said, the other one are cool.
Speaker 4 (37:27):
House is great, especially having kids now, like they love
having their grandparents or their their aunts or you know,
they love like they just wake up and go jump
on on their Annie or grandma.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
So they love that. Tour got our mind.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
It's kind of fool you get to you know, drive around,
go cool, so some cool places, like there's pride in
that for me of like a look where I live.
And then the expenses and pain. I don't mind that cause,
like you know, it's like you work hard to be
able to like pay back moms and dad and like
I got you enjoy this. So but they had the
airport it brutal. Would that be a coming over? I
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can't come out.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
I don't want to spend it.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
As long as they go where I say we're going
to eat, because I got the couponds too, for one,
As long as I can dictate.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
Where you cannot take out of town people to rouse.
I'm just saying, like that's how it is.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
Except for the one time when my brother and my
nephews came to town and I took them to the
Laker game, and I spent two thousand.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
Dollars on tickets. I was doing too much, all right?
Speaker 1 (38:25):
That was that was I was like, they can't come
to l a and then have me put them in
the rafters exactly.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
They flew to town all that. What do you think
about that?
Speaker 6 (38:34):
That's one fourth towards your tooth though, But you go
back and get that back now, wouldn't you. I need
that money back, That's what I'm saying. I don't know
how much pay for this tooth.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
I just don't eve been downsizing you all right, Yeah,
I'm just lifeless. Think you got it, Parker. Thank you
figured out I'm saying. I'm Joe right now. Just sell
one of your Gucci hoodies.
Speaker 14 (38:52):
You'll be back City boys should I'm not faking about
speaking back, Im back to speaking of You missed our
whole explanations everything.
Speaker 4 (39:02):
Sorry, you know when nature calls. Really, but the three of.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Us, Alex and Kelvin and I, it was about about
picking up.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
Pickup draw can't I just I get it.
Speaker 14 (39:13):
I get it.
Speaker 4 (39:13):
I'll pay for the uber just I can't I get it.
With that being said, I will be at the airport tomorrow.
The one good thing is Spectrum is right, you know,
Spectrums right by the airport. So we try to tell
everybody schedule it when Kelvin is leaving work or going
to work, so.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
That it's boom right there.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Everybody doesn't have a breed who's going to take him
to the airport?
Speaker 4 (39:35):
As you know what I mean, don't get started. And
Jalen Brunson was upset about it too. We got to
talk about