May 1, 2025 • 40 mins
Rob and Kelvin open Hour 2 reacting to the Knicks vs. Pistons playoff series. Kelvin is ready to call the Knicks one of the most overrated franchises in American sports... Is he right? Former NBA player and current Pelicans analyst Antonio Daniels joins the show to weigh in with his own thoughts and help break down the rest of the playoffs as a whole. Plus, a new edition of Shop Talk!
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Don't forget coming up in uh In about twenty eight minutes,
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uh joining us as well, and some shop talk. We'll
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get to that as well, Kelvin as we get into
our number two. And I don't know, there's so many
things here. Yeah, do you feel like you've I mean,
I just want on the Lakers.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
Yeah, I mean, obviously the Lakers. There's you know, that's
stuff that is a hot topic. I think we did
a great job giving you know, our opinions and letting
folks jump in. The only thing I was gonna hit
on this was just I'm watching thisviously, Nick Pistons, you
and I have it some invested interest in this, but
I was gonna just say, man, the NIXT to me
remind me of the NBA version of the Dallas Cowboys,
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and that the attention they get, the hope that they
get even from TV networks, and everybody gets all excited.
And the more I was watching and just thinking about it,
I'm like, man, the Knicks to be the Knicks. They
just have not lived up to what the publicity they get.
What the ooh they're on TV, let's put them on.
And obviously they're in the postseason now. And I really
(02:33):
like Jalen Bronson Brunton, and obviously they have Cat and
so they're they're playoff team, but you get what I meant.
More so historically where what we've actually gotten from them
results wise, doesn't matter where they are an NBA lore
as far as publicity, television hopes. And obviously New York
is the biggest market in America, so I'm not an
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idiot living in Los Angeles, the second biggest market, fully
aware of that, but I just watched a series laugh
to myself, thinking and like, even if you take their
opponent the Pistons, I mean the Pistons, you know, and
since nineteen eighty nine have three championships, and they've been
in the finals obviously multiple times, but they've won eighty nine,
ninety then they won to know four, and I'm like,
the Knicks ever won since the seventies was the seventy two,
(03:14):
seventy three, And I'm like, the Knicks just one of
those organizations semi how the Cowboys every year, we talk
about the Cowboy every obviously what they're gonna do, Yeah,
during the season, hopes of this, and it's like the
map though't map to me. Dallas hadn't won since ninety four,
ninety five, yet they're the biggest thing we talk about
(03:35):
not you and I necessarily, but in sports, the Knicks
are one of those organizations and you really start to
look like, well, dang, what have the Knicks done? And
we talked about the Eastern Conference just a moment ago.
I mean they've been You can name other teams who
have had better runs and better moments than them, the
Milwaukee Bucks, the Pistons obviously, the Bulls and totally to
own the nineties, the Cleveland Cavaliers with the whole Lebron run.
(03:58):
The Miami Heat have had better run.
Speaker 6 (04:00):
And so I was.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
Watching this, this great series and thoroughly enjoyed it, but
I was thinking to myself, man, the league gets so
excited when the Knicks are there, and rightfully so because
of how massive the city is. But to me, it's like, man,
prior to this season, maybe last, the Nickson and other
hopes and the aspirations and the tension and the eyeballs,
I'm like, it just doesn't make sense to me.
Speaker 6 (04:21):
Am I am? I offered thinking that almost so it
doesn't make I.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Just so I don't I don't understand, Like, like, yes,
I don't. I don't even think they get are they
put on television a lot, Yes, because television executives want
networks that have the biggest audiences.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Okay, so the perfect example.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Is the San Antonio Spurs won all those championships and
they have.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Three of the least watch NBA finals ever, Like, it's
not by accident.
Speaker 6 (04:52):
But I don't argue. I get that.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
And the same thing with the Cowboys every time they're
on because people hate watch them too.
Speaker 6 (04:58):
That's true. That's true.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
It's about it's about the networks and eyeballs.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
It's not anything else.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
If the Knicks franchise was in San Antonio, no, they
would if they wouldn't.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
The only thing I don't agree with you want what
you say, Rob, is that with the Spurs, I think
it was more the style of play than more so
just simply being in San Antonio because.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Because they were, they were they were winning is winning. Yeah,
but they were beating people eighty.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
Two to seventy eight the first go you know, first
couple of iterations before the last one in the twenty
you know tens if you will, They were beating people
eighty eight to is seventy six. And it was Tim Duncan.
The star didn't have any personality. Tony Parker really didn't
have that much, and so to me, it was more
so that than the location. I agree, New York is
(05:43):
New York and La is La. So I'm you know,
I'm not naive to that point, but I feel like
for the Knicks to be the Knicks, to be the mecca,
and everybody always says, oh, Kevin Durant's gonna go there,
Kyrie Irvan is gonna go so and so, Everybody's gonna
come and be the next Knicks start.
Speaker 6 (05:57):
And yet it doesn't happen.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
And it's actually un to achieve for being New York,
being the Knicks, being Madison Square Garden, they're supposed to
get the start they're supposed to, Like, why aren't they
competing with the Lakers.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Because they have a terrible owner. I mean, they have
a terrible owner that people don't want to play for.
I mean, it's just it's it's it's just it's documentary.
Speaker 6 (06:21):
If you're Adam Silver, you know something about that.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
At some point, he's a bad owner. And I'm just
telling you, like he threw.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Charles Oakley out of the building, Charles the heart and
soul that that was crazy. Seriously, he threw Charles Oakley
out the building. Like there are a lot of people
who don't like James Dolan, but but they still New
York is a basketball town. They still want to go
to the Garden. They still want to watch basketball, you
(06:50):
know what I mean. Basketball players, no matter where they're from,
talk about playing at Madison Square Garden because that's what
you watched and and the difference in and and some
other plays. I think the Lakers do it. But you know,
they turn the house lights down and you only see
the core the theaters that like you're on Broadway. Yeah,
I feel like you're on a Broadway stage.
Speaker 6 (07:10):
So are they the most underachieving franchises?
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Me?
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Like they're there's so many, I mean, but.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
They're they're supposed given, But I'm saying given everything we
just said. They're in New York. It's the mecca of basketball.
Everybody wants to be there. It's great for business, right,
it's the other la as far as like, oh I
can be in commercials and TV and be all that,
then why the heck do they keep you know, being
subpar or at best they beat the Pistons this round
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and go lose to Boston, you know what I mean,
Like it doesn't make sense for them to be this
franchise in New York is supposed to be a marquee
thing and it just never live up to it.
Speaker 6 (07:44):
And it's kind of crazy to me.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
Jerry Jones the highest grossing UH franchise in the NFL.
They're you know, which is the biggest sport American is?
Speaker 4 (07:52):
I mean I could go through I could go through
so many teams. There's just so many teams that we
can go to. Cubs win one hundred years without when
you're in a big city. The Tigers haven't won since
nineteen eighty four.
Speaker 6 (08:05):
That got to the World Series a couple of times.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Yeah, but I can get well, I could say Patrick
Ewing and them. Michael Jordan was in a way when
they had a really good team and they had a
chance and they did go to the finals, they lost
to a Chema Lojawan. I'm not gonna make excuses. They
have a bad owner. It's been run poorly. Team Jerry Jones.
You can make all the money merchandising and tickets all
you want. They have a bad front office that doesn't
(08:29):
run the team. Well, we can go on up. You
talk about the East right until the Celtics finally broke through.
They had gone.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
They went one stretch.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Twenty three years after the Bird and them, they didn't win.
The Pacers, still looking for their first NBA championship, Milwaukee
finally won.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Since what lou Al Sender knows, guys, I mean, like
I can go on and on on about franchises.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
I guess my talent. I hear you saying, but I'm saying,
what given what they have? Meaning you have the resources,
you're It's the reason why with the Lakers right still,
Oh wow, and BRIT's the Lebron, it gets the shack,
It gets to Anthony Davis, you know, it makes it.
It got Kareem obviously fifty years ago, whatever it was.
So it's like it gets the stars and even some
middling players who maybe not superstars, but they're middling.
Speaker 6 (09:14):
And for New York to be New.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
York and every superstar that becomes a Damian Lillard is
going to the day Lebron's going to the Knicks. It's
like the Nick Nick Nick And I'm just getting watching
and preparing for this game and thinking about the series, Like, man,
the Knicks to be in the biggest city in America,
it's a world city.
Speaker 6 (09:32):
You know that like it, just the success hasn't.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Had a before the Dodgers won in twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
They went thirty five years, but I win it. I
don't know, and I.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Like the NL West for you know what I'm saying.
They went thirty five years between championships. The Knicks haven't
won in a long time since Moby Dick was a guppy.
I'll be the first to tell you that. But I
don't think it has anything to do with market size.
It has to do with ownership, front office and people
who can't do the job correctly. That's why the Cowboys
(10:08):
haven't won. They don't have player to have play.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
They gotta stop getting these owners who one loves to
have his band all the time. Jim Dolan, all he
cares about is his band, his new artists and dropping mixtapes.
And then the owner, who all he cares about is
looking good and having radio stations and not making moves
in the actual offseason, not signing guys when he should,
these big, big teams doing nothing, wasting time around here.
Speaker 6 (10:30):
Man, That's just what I guess.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
What I'm just lost about is like you got this
big franchise in the next the NBA would love for
the Knicks to be great in New York, and they
continue to just be not great, and it's just it's
you know, obviously, again it looks like they might beat
the Pistons, but I'm saying, then we expect them to
lose the Celtics. So another year where it's like, there,
what if they beat the Celtics upset, that would be okay, Nah,
you be onto something. Maybe they're heading in the right direction.
(10:52):
I think you as much as much as you thought
everybody was shocked Minnesota beat the Lakers, everybody would be
shocked if the Celtics were to lose to the Knicks.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
There's no way I wouldn't pick that. I'm not saying that,
but I'm saying that's why you play. Everybody picked the
Lakers too, and they didn't win, and I'm just saying
that that's the part where you take another step as
a franchise. Last year, they lost to the Pacers in
Game seven at Madison Square. Guard I know they had
some injuries, they were beat up, but people were going
crazy about them last year. Anytime that they're relatively good,
(11:23):
because they had a really down stretch for a long time,
just like as good as the Pistons. I was there
during the good times. And then if you would have
told somebody they didn't won a playoff game since two
thousand and eight, like the other when they won their
game what was that game two? And won the game
since two thousand and eight.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
Yeah, it's crazy, and I think that I don't get
it twisted.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
I would.
Speaker 6 (11:46):
I want New York. It's great.
Speaker 5 (11:48):
It's when they're the you can literally feel the fans
through the TV when they're up and they're going crazy,
and it reminds you what it's supposed to be. And
I'm just like, how has all of that not translated
to more success?
Speaker 6 (11:58):
You get what I mean?
Speaker 5 (11:59):
Like every the Warrior were okay there all right, then
all of a sudden they had their run and the Spurs,
and then the Spurs had to run, and the Lakers
and now the Celtics are counting in their bag and
you just mentioned it. The Pistons had to run and
just like how the Knicks not had a run since
the early seventies.
Speaker 6 (12:12):
That's just crazy to me.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
But they had runs. They just thought to Michael Jordan,
I mean.
Speaker 6 (12:17):
The nineties run, that's right.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
I don't mean it was phrased, I will be fair,
the nineties was a fun time when they was beating
everybody up.
Speaker 6 (12:23):
I agree with that.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
That was a fun time them against the for sure.
I don't want to be in a little of the
nineties run. I'll be You're right about that. I do
not want to be a little of the nineties run
because that was a fun run. Hit them and the
pacers going out of them.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
And the balls.
Speaker 6 (12:38):
That was a run.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
So I won't I won't hate on that. I won't
hate on the nineties Knicks. That was a great that
was fun run, for sure. But I just came'm saying
it hasn't worked out where they've had a well obviously
literally haven't won a championship or really really seriously contended
in quite some time.
Speaker 6 (12:53):
And I saw, I'm say, man, this is New York.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
This is the biggest city in America, the biggest market,
the biggest basketball town, and it's just the mat just
did the math didn't mad to me?
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Rob, Well, I do want to add this, I guess.
Speaker 6 (13:07):
JJ Reddick, Well he didn't did or say it?
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Had a press conference, uh you know, post the exit interviews. Yeah, yes,
And this is from ESPN you got it. Let's let's
listen to the sound.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Let's hear this.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
I've seen the trend now, I've seen the trend for years.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
What's the trend. The trend is always Wait a minute,
let's Alex stop that for a second.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
And this was JJ Reddick ripping on uh Doc Rivers
for not being accountable. And it sounded like after yesterday
he was making some excuses about stuff. So let's hear this.
Sounds it's funny to hear it now that he's a coach.
Here here he is talking about Doc Rivers.
Speaker 7 (13:50):
I've seen the trend now, I've seen the.
Speaker 6 (13:52):
Trend for years.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
What's the trend. The trend is always making excuses getting Doc.
Speaker 6 (13:56):
We get it.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Taking over a team in the middle of the season
is hard.
Speaker 6 (13:59):
It's hard.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
We get it, just like getting traded in the middle
of season.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
It's hard for a player.
Speaker 6 (14:03):
We get it.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
But it's always an excuse.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
There's never accountability with that guy. Well, there's never accountability.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
And my only thing is what did he bring up?
Speaker 4 (14:13):
Yeah, Luca and Lebron played thirteen games or whatever he
came up with. And and and I have to as
you as you look at this and going forward. I'm
just asking you his first year coach and never being
a coach before. Uh And I saw I saw Jay
Will on ESPN today refuse to criticize him because they
(14:36):
both played at Duke.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Well, that's nice.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
I probably would have told him to take the Yeah,
can you can you take the day off if you
can't give me an honest take on the job. And
that's what we want to do here is I would
love what's your honest opinion of JJ his first year
and did he hurt the Lakers or was the players who?
Speaker 6 (14:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (15:00):
My true answer, I think I'm very indifferent on JJ,
just because I didn't see there was a period even
a little like a month before Luca where they actually
started the jail. Defensively, we're playing better, but I do
think one thing he's gonna have to realize is finding
that balance of he's a little high strung right now,
and I think he thinks that's gonna be good, right
being like super wild tightener that actually isn't gonna work
(15:25):
well in your favor. You gotta understand it's a long season.
Some games are gonna win, sometimes you're gonna lose. Like
finding your flow, finding your rhythm, I think he's a
little too tight. Can't ask some certain questionss Like, dude,
you just started like we can ask you questions to
be the media and all of that. So I think
he's a little high strung. The players the real issue
for me again, if you're asking me, I told you
my Luca take for you know, last hour, So I
(15:46):
hold Luca accountable for sure, but also Rob Polinka, it
just that's just his job as a general manager. I
have to give you the groceries. I have to provide
you to then cook and then the players to go
ahead and do what they do. And I need you
to provide the groceries if I'm JJ, if I'm the
players the grocery, dude. The onus was on Luke and
(16:07):
Lebron and obviously you thought Austin Reeds as a third player, but.
Speaker 6 (16:10):
That thing wasn't looking good.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
When I tell you about Vanderbilt and Jackson Hayes and
and Gay Vincent and Knnect who ain't even playing, I
don't know what that's all about on the bench, Like
I need you look at the teams right now, Rob,
that are thriving. These teams are deep deep. You look
at Houston, they are a bunch of players. You look
at Boston might have more than anybody. You look at OKC.
I mean, you look at Minnesota. These teams are deep
(16:34):
with real quality shoot, pass, dribble and defined the roles,
define roles. And that is one thing I would have
an issue, slight issue with with JJ is what happened
between Jackson and Hayes being a serviceable you know, playing
his role to literally not even get a game. Did
I miss something? Nobody's thinking he was the return of
Tim Duncan. There was the return of a keem Olajuwan,
(16:57):
But how was he getting twenty twenty five minutes a game?
Getting you eight you know, nine, ten and and and
six to literally not playing?
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Like?
Speaker 6 (17:05):
What what did I miss?
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Rob?
Speaker 6 (17:07):
Did I did you see something? I don't know what
happened there.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
I'm gonna say this that the Lakers made a disastrous
uh hire.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Of JJ Reddick.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
From this standpoint, you can't waste if you're gonna have
a forty year old player on a new beat coach
on somebody who's learning on the job. And I think
this is where the mistake was.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
You can't do that. There's not enough for JJ to
figure it out in three years, you know, like.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
A year old at the time, best player exactly and
that and that just doesn't make any sense to me.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
That's why I was against the hire, and I think
he cost them. I think that.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
Game four of playing all those guys, all those minutes,
all the entire second half cost the Lakers. They should
won that game and tied this series up, and they
didn't get it done because they ran out of gas.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
And I gotta blame uh JJ Reddick.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
So all right, eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox,
Kelvin is willing to continue with JJ Reddick?
Speaker 2 (18:16):
You think he can get better, correct and build.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
Yeah, I mean I don't I he I'm more My
ONNUS is on Rob Polinka bettering the roster doing his
job more than j J.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
So there it is.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Is it the roster and Rob Palinka has the most
pressure on him or JJ Reddick as far as being
a better coach. Which one do you think is going
to be able to affect the Lakers going forward?
Speaker 2 (18:40):
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on the way, we got Antonio Daniels coming up here
in just a little bit. Looking forward to seeing what
he has to say with some of the NBA action.
But Robin I taking calls JJ Reddick, Rob Plinka, who
you kind of signing with that has to do more work?
Or is the problem I'm saying Rob Blink has got
to put more work in with his roster. Rob says
(19:47):
JJ was a bad hire from the start.
Speaker 6 (19:49):
What say you? Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox
that we got.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
All right let's go with Paul and Rhode Island. You're
on the EYD couple Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
What's up, Paul?
Speaker 8 (19:58):
Listen, I thank you and Iana best one all the time,
especially for Formula one.
Speaker 9 (20:05):
But let me.
Speaker 8 (20:06):
Tell you something. You have a forty year old dynamic player.
You cannot I mean, JJ Reddick, he did his job.
Don't tell me, don't tell my intelligence did not do
his job. He had two players and he did not
have a deep betch. Okay, let me tell you something.
(20:28):
You are not the Celtics, but let me tell you something.
I'm telling you right now. You cannot disgrace Lebron and Luca. Okay,
let me tell you Okay, all.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Right, Paul, thanks for the call.
Speaker 6 (20:43):
Appreciate I wanted to tell you something.
Speaker 7 (20:45):
Rob.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
Yeah, he's gonna tell me something. Okay, you could tell
it to the Lakers who are going to Cancun. Josh
in Orlando, you're in the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
What's up, Josh?
Speaker 9 (20:55):
Let me tell you guys something, all right, really quick?
Speaker 6 (21:00):
Right, thank you, Josh, that was funny.
Speaker 9 (21:02):
Here's my fifteen seconds and what might take. So my
thing is I think it's on Pelinka. I think Pelinka
is shopping at all these grocery stores, getting all these mismatches,
and he's not getting one consistent. Tame Austin Reeves. He's
no longer him, He's not the third piece, and I
think he needs to trade him to find someone better
as far as a defensive But Josh, let me ask.
Speaker 6 (21:22):
You this though.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
Let me add seriously, Josh, so everybody was random raving
about how great their defense was, how they had their
three stars, how there was nobody in their pathway to
get to the finals. They lose, and now they.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Don't have enough players.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
Is that what it is, because that should have been
all eleven people on ESPN dot com picked the Lakers
in this first round all eleven.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
So they didn't see it, right?
Speaker 4 (21:52):
Is that it because they were the third seed, not
the sixth seed, not the play in the third seed
in the West.
Speaker 9 (22:00):
Yeah, but if you look at the third in the
sixth seed, it was a difference like a one game.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
The third seed, they are speed.
Speaker 9 (22:09):
I think is that the Lakers caught lightning in a
bottle when they got Luca and the teams didn't know
how to play him. But after a couple of games
have gone by the coaches have learned how to adjust,
and they used Luca as the as the scapegole on
the pick and rolls, and.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
They all they do is just run at Luca the
I don't know that that's been out there forever. I mean,
they've sold a million copies of that.
Speaker 6 (22:28):
But that's the Josh.
Speaker 5 (22:30):
Yeah, I appreciate you, Josh squeezing. One morning, we got
Monti and Antonio coming up.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
All right, let's do it real quick, Kenneth in San Antonio,
you're in the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 10 (22:39):
I think everybody's missing the point. Really, if you think
about it, JJ is just a figurehead. The real coach
on that team is Lebron. If Lebron wants to play,
or if Lebron wants to sit, that's what he's gonna do.
I think y'all are putting too much onus on JJ,
when in reality, Lebron's running the team. He's the one
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getting these figs. He's the one bringing these people in.
If you really want to fix it, bring in.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
So Lebron is the one who said, I'm forty years old,
I want to play the entire second half. Yeah, with
no other no other team Since nineteen ninety seven had
ever done.
Speaker 9 (23:17):
No no Ron.
Speaker 10 (23:18):
Nobody else has got Lebron on their team. Dude, if
he wants to play, he's gonna play. JJ's not gonna
be able to tell him to sids.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
You know that, while I believe Lebron is very powerful,
appreciate the contient. I think you might be giving him
just a little bit. Maybe he plays. But on a
larger conversation, you still have coaches that could do some
Frank Vogel had them boys playing defense like I'm not
gonna act like there are yes. Absolutely, Lebron has a
powerful uh you know, swag within an organization without a doubt.
But you can have a coach that has an identity.
(23:48):
Maybe JJ doesn't know it yet. Frank Vogel knew his
His was a defensive minded team. Robolink I got him
defensive players KCP Caruso, JaVale McGee, Dwight Howard, Kuzma.
Speaker 6 (23:57):
They are playing. That's where their style was. It's great defense.
Speaker 5 (24:01):
And JJ doesn't know his identity yet, and Rob Polaka
is gonna have to They're gonna have to work together
to find that in tandem.
Speaker 6 (24:07):
What the heck they're good at?
Speaker 11 (24:08):
All?
Speaker 8 (24:08):
Right?
Speaker 5 (24:08):
We got Antonio Daniels around the quarner. We can ask
him some of these questions. Also good when going right
now with the New York and the Knicks and the Pistons,
it's Maazi Blanio is gonna tell us what's trendy?
Speaker 11 (24:18):
Quick question on what you just said?
Speaker 6 (24:20):
Did I? Okay?
Speaker 12 (24:21):
I just want can JJ Reddick find an identity with
Lebron James, who is at the end of his career.
Can he find an identity like that?
Speaker 5 (24:29):
I believe so because I've seen other people do it. Okay,
I think I gave you an example Frank Vogel that
team was efficient on offense, but defense was a priority.
Speaker 12 (24:37):
But you know, because it's gonna change when he's done,
whether it's next year in two years, Like wouldn't the
identity of around n.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
I said, it's around Luca is shut. I've been screaming
Lucas for the last hour and a half.
Speaker 6 (24:48):
You're right, and it should be and it should be
And that's how they used to form the defense around
who around Luka?
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 12 (24:53):
Because yeah, yeah, absolutely, absolutely So. The Knicks are trying
to close out this series against the Pistons. They came
out but in the second quarter. The Pistons have kind
of taken over. They've outscored New York thirty one to twenty.
There's still ninety seconds to go in the first half,
but at one point Detroit was down by fifteen.
Speaker 6 (25:11):
They are just down by three right now.
Speaker 12 (25:13):
Fifty six actually they just scored, so fifty seven to
fifty six is the score?
Speaker 6 (25:17):
Hey, how far ahead you are?
Speaker 12 (25:18):
Now?
Speaker 6 (25:19):
This drives me. You know, I'm plugging my ears next
time you give me to score.
Speaker 7 (25:23):
You know what it is.
Speaker 12 (25:23):
I have the It's the Internet and the TV at
the same time, so I can kind of yeah, see,
youre right, they're not. Yes, yes, I am ahead of
you a little bit. I apologize, but yeah. The Pistons
have cut the deficit two one, fifty seven to fifty
six one minute to go in the first half. The
leading scorer of the game right now is Jalen Brunson,
though he's got twenty points to go along with four assists.
(25:44):
Carl Anthony Towns had a hot second in the first quarter,
also has calmed down. He's got seven points and seven
rebounds for Detroit. The leading score as Malik Beasley off
the bench. He's got fifteen points again, just a one
point game in this Game six, where New York can
close it out. The clip are going to try and
keep their season alive as they take on the Nuggets
in Game six at into It Dome that tips off
(26:05):
at ten Eastern, and then we'll move on to the
NHL playoffs. Some Maple Leaves are edging the Senators right now,
two to one, two minutes to go in the second period.
Toronto does lead the series three to two. The Golden
Knights and the Wild are tied at one apiece after
the first period, and Vegas.
Speaker 6 (26:21):
Leads this series three to two.
Speaker 12 (26:23):
There's still two games to come in the Stanley Cup
playoffs as well.
Speaker 6 (26:26):
In Major League.
Speaker 12 (26:27):
Baseball, the Phillies were up not anymore. The Nationals have
taken the lead. It's four to two bottom of the
seventh inning in Philadelphia, and the Red Sox of a
two zero lead over the Blue Jays. It's the bottom
of the sixth inning. Earlier today in baseball, the a
shut out the Rangers three zero, and the White Sox
shut out the Brewers eight zero.
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Speaker 6 (27:17):
What's up ady?
Speaker 7 (27:19):
What's up? Fellas?
Speaker 6 (27:20):
How you doing doing? Good man?
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Great?
Speaker 4 (27:22):
So, Antonio, were you a part of the media hoard
that drank all of the Lakers kool aid as well?
Speaker 7 (27:32):
No?
Speaker 4 (27:34):
No, why didn't you buy in where all these people
had them with a clear path not only to win
the first round, but to get to the finals.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Like I just couldn't.
Speaker 7 (27:44):
I can tell you why then buy I can tell
you in a heartbeat, rob why than buy it? Because
I don't believe in Big three. I don't believe in
Big two's, especially when they all do the same thing.
We continue to see this year after year, after teams
try and skip steps by simply throwing talent together and
(28:04):
thinking that it's gonna work. Phoenix, No, it's not gonna work. Brooklyn, No,
it's not gonna work. You can go down the list
the Lakers. The thing that I liked about the Lakers
initially was just the fact that they had the star
power and the far power. My question was not in
the regular season, when you're gonna play Charlotte on one
night and then Utah on the next night, and then
(28:25):
the Pelicans on the next night, and then where you
can look really good on certain night. I'm talking about
the postseason. How is it gonna look in the postseason
with Lebron next to Luca, next to Austin Reeves? And
we got our answer, all right.
Speaker 5 (28:39):
So jump on in this one ad. We've been having conversations.
Rob said, Lebron need to retire. I said, bruh average
twenty four to eight to eight or whatever it was.
It's absolutely crazy to me. This is the perfect season
for him. I don't know if you saw dee Way
recently did it in a podcast? He said that him
and Lebron they decided to lock in the year. They
were like, we gotta win this finals. And they were
tied together. And I think this is that offseason for
(29:02):
Luca to study up. How you get in best shape
here in Lo you do something.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
Antonio Lebron is two and twelve in his last fourteen
playoff games.
Speaker 7 (29:14):
Listen, you know what I won't do. I won't make
this about Lebron. This that about Lebron. It's not to
be honest. No, this and Abron Lebron. Lebron forty years
old and still playing high level basketball. He's the best
conditioned athlete on that team. As much as people try
and shift this and deflect this to Lebron, this has
a lot to do with Luca, that's what. For some reason,
(29:36):
But for some reason, people don't want to have this
conversation because it's easier to talk bad about Lebron than
talk about it's not.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
That's not true.
Speaker 7 (29:45):
I don't Maybe maybe just maybe maybe what Nico Harrison
saw in Division that he saw made sense. Maybe it
makes this.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
I've already said that. I'm with you, I've said this,
I've said this.
Speaker 7 (30:02):
Listen. It's unfair. It's unfair for Lebron James at forty
years old to have to one play the center position
because j j Reddick made drastic changes from the regular
season to the postseason. Number two to have to guard
the best perimeter player on the opposing team, because this
Lakers team is not constructed to defend a team like Minnesota.
(30:26):
That's not on Lebron. Sorry, can do that.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
Lebron also, and the look at his numbers in the
fourth quarter, look at the big turning point game. I'm
just saying, like, like you could talk about compiling numbers, okay,
and I get that. You want to go look at
Lebron always score twenty four. Don't blame him, but that's
not how it's done. How much how much impact did
you have? What baskets did you get when your team
(30:52):
needed him he got They got nothing from him Land
And that's why I'm saying, how long are you going
to play? Sometimes? Go overstay, You're welcome. You're not the
same player. How is he two and twelve in his
last fourteen playoff games?
Speaker 7 (31:07):
Hey, there's no question he's not the same player, Rob,
because he's forty years old. There's no one is saying.
No one's saying that he's the saying. No one's saying
that he's the same player. Here's what I saw Lebron do. Actually,
it's funny how it works, because Lebron's damned if he does,
and damned if he doesn't. You know what people saying,
Lebron needs to take a back seat, and you know
(31:29):
what he is. He took a back seat to Luca.
And now you know what people are saying, Oh, man,
you know what, he didn't show up. I thought he
was supposed to take a back seat.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
A back seat doesn't mean you go scoreless in the
fourth quarter of a deciding game four.
Speaker 7 (31:42):
On the road. And and you know what euse that means.
Without that means is your coach doesn't make drafted decisions
like at forty years old saying you know what, I'm
gonna play you the entire second half.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
I agree, I JJ Reddick was a bad hire. You
can't learn on the job with a forty year old superstar.
I'm saying it. I'm saying it. Okay, you can't. It's ridiculous, Lebron.
You cannot, no ot, have a guy learn on the job,
Have a guy do something playing all five players. Come on, man,
(32:18):
look at that team.
Speaker 7 (32:21):
I'm not saying it wrong, but think about how many
coaches have learned on the job. Steve Kerr learned on
the job, you know what I mean, Steve, and.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Also Steve Nash learned on the job. How did that
get them? There's plenty of guys who have failed. There's plenty.
There's plenty who have failed.
Speaker 7 (32:37):
But there are also something that has to see Popovitch
learned on the job. You know what I mean. So
it doesn't there are success stories and failures no matter what.
And after one year of coach, but.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
The difference between pop pop Pop wasn't an assistant coach.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
JJ was never a coach zero.
Speaker 7 (32:57):
There are many robed that weren't coaches. After one bad,
very poor coach postseason series, I am not at the
point well I'm ready to say JJ Reddit was a
bad higher. I'm not there.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
Hey, Ad, real quick for us, real quick for us.
What do you do with Giannis? Are you pushing through
another year? He's gonna be Daniel Lillard's gonna be Okay,
you sound like me, it's not yeah, go ahead, no, no.
Speaker 7 (33:26):
Like it comes a point where like there are certain
teams that pushed all of their chips to the middle
of the table.
Speaker 9 (33:32):
Not are stuck.
Speaker 7 (33:33):
Phoenix did this. Now they're stuck they don't have a
choice because the three things that you need they don't have.
They don't have financial flexibility in Milwaukee as well, they
don't have financial flexibility. They don't have assets as far
as drafting is concerned, and and they don't have good
young players to build around outside of Yannis George, you
(33:53):
don't have that. Now it's time to reset, and I
don't need I think this is should be a collaboration
of you know what, we did this. We got a
championship with this. Now with time for both of us
to move on. Trade me so you can get assets,
but just send me somewhere that I want to go.
Speaker 5 (34:11):
All right, well, we gotta leave it there. AD always
great having you on. As always, we appreciate your time,
my guy, Thank.
Speaker 7 (34:18):
You for sure. Appreciate it fellas All right, Rob, all.
Speaker 6 (34:20):
Right, shop talk is next.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
In is in.
Speaker 5 (34:24):
Let's see what he's got cooked up for us when
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Speaker 6 (35:00):
Right now to start for shop Talk.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Ain't nobody, ain't nothing to bob shop.
Speaker 11 (35:08):
You know that.
Speaker 6 (35:08):
Ain't nobody? You were talking about whoever, whatever, whatever you
want to in a box?
Speaker 2 (35:13):
So why you not mat shop talking?
Speaker 5 (35:16):
Hit it?
Speaker 7 (35:17):
All?
Speaker 11 (35:18):
Right? So shop Talk today's well anyway, let me explain
the concept. First, shop talk it's like a barbershop. We
talk about something outside of the world of sports. We
do it once a week here on Thursdays on The
Odd Couple. So today's topic, we're gonna get into music
festivals and we're gonna need Monci's help on this one too.
Just all the the younger crowd Alex as well. Uh,
because if you've been so you're telling me to just
(35:39):
get off, well, you're not part of the younger crowd
or off. This one's easy. This one's easy.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
I'm in the hip crowd. It's just the only problem
is the broken hip crowd and you.
Speaker 5 (35:49):
All by the way, our comment's been going crazy and
you almost breaking him Manzi.
Speaker 6 (35:55):
Your laugh.
Speaker 13 (35:55):
You know it's funny though I didn't think about it.
BELI check makes Rob look better if you really think
about it. Oh, elaborate, Actually that's actually a good thing
for you, right, please simple because we're always giving Rob
hate for liking younger women. Belichick's just like dating grandchildren
at this.
Speaker 5 (36:08):
Point, right, and he looks like a hostage at least
Robs he was sitting there. I wanted to say, hey, Bill,
blink twice you all right? If you need help, blink twice?
Speaker 7 (36:17):
All right?
Speaker 6 (36:17):
What you got for Sean?
Speaker 11 (36:19):
So yeah, anyway, this past weekend was Stage Coach, the
country music festival. I personally have never been, but you know,
I dabble in country music sometimes. But the weekend before
was Coachella. So the point is we're in that season,
that time of year where all these music festivals are
going on.
Speaker 6 (36:34):
Concerts.
Speaker 11 (36:35):
Just wondering if you guys have any particular stories experiences
from concerts or music festivals that you went to that
worth bringing up at this time of year.
Speaker 6 (36:45):
Calvin, I know you mentioned you at some point. Oh yeah,
I got a couple, Rob, you got one is this
too easy?
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Too easy? All right?
Speaker 6 (36:52):
That means I'll go. I got you all right, so
we could start with the fact adding to your list.
Speaker 5 (36:58):
Ian today literally to Beyonce's second show at Sofi Stadium
here in La I had a chance to go to
the other night. Decide not to go because I wanted to.
I said, I wanted to spend time with my boo
aka Rob Parker. So I was here with you. Got
a chance to meet Beyonce, though I bought it to that.
No true story, by the way, I really could have went,
but I was like whatever, I'm justcuding. You know, I
(37:19):
don't feel like making a hassle doing all that. Plus
I gotta see Rob.
Speaker 12 (37:21):
Nobody wants to go to Sofi.
Speaker 5 (37:23):
Yeah yeah, too far. Well with that being said, I
did meet Beyonce. Oh two thousand and eight. Okay, long
story short, working in radio, you want to go to
the show? No past, But my boss goes, all right,
well it was a meet and greet. I said, hold up,
you didn't say all that.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
Player.
Speaker 6 (37:43):
Call my girlfriend now wife, say hey, you want to
go now? And I says to meet and greed. I
got us out.
Speaker 8 (37:47):
So we go.
Speaker 5 (37:48):
Great show and at the end, we meet Beyonce and
I swear for two seconds, I had to shot Ian, Yeah,
we both neither of us were married yet we will
both be married.
Speaker 6 (37:59):
But I a chance.
Speaker 5 (38:00):
She gave me a look like if you want to holler?
Shut up, Alex. She said, if you want to holler shahalla,
But I stuttered. Y'all know I'm smooth and cool. It
was the first time in my life I've bro have
to hit it. They're like, oh, Beyonce, this is the
radio guy from Flint, Michigan.
Speaker 6 (38:15):
Blah blah bah.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
No, I.
Speaker 6 (38:18):
Swear to you I've never happened before. I was like,
how you a great child? Yeah? She got you flustered. Bruh,
she's beatle flustered. She's beautiful, Alex.
Speaker 5 (38:27):
I'm not about to do this with you. Ninety nine
percent of people would understand that except you.
Speaker 6 (38:31):
Yeah, Alex, this is an incredibly hot take you. Yeah,
I would not find right?
Speaker 2 (38:35):
Should I do mine?
Speaker 7 (38:36):
Yes? Right?
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Is it any chance?
Speaker 11 (38:38):
Go?
Speaker 4 (38:38):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (38:39):
Go?
Speaker 2 (38:39):
I wave you that.
Speaker 11 (38:41):
Go.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
Nineteen ninety four, Michigan State University in East Lanson. I
went and saw the rolling stones outside at Spartan Stadium,
and I was literally ten or twelve rows from the front.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
It was incredible to see Mick Jagger that close.
Speaker 6 (38:59):
Was he damn doing his craziness? Do you know what
the origin of that is?
Speaker 4 (39:03):
From nineteen ninety four, how long ago that was? But
I can't believe how close I got to seeing him,
you know what I mean? It was right up ten rolls,
twelve rolls from the stuffy.
Speaker 5 (39:12):
Do you know the origin of his moves or lack thereof?
There was a show in the nineteen sixties. They were
the young big band from Britain, but they weren't the
biggest he quite yet James Brown was bigger than him.
Speaker 6 (39:25):
James Brown goes out kills it.
Speaker 5 (39:26):
This is young James Brown smokes it, dancing doing all
the James Brown stuff.
Speaker 6 (39:30):
True story.
Speaker 5 (39:30):
Mick Jagger said it. You can see the video of it.
He sees him killing the crowd. He's in here like
I ain't got all that, you know, I'm about to
go up here and rock, but I ain't got all that.
And he goes up there and he literally just tries
to impersonate James Brown, just moving and just and it
obviously looks terrible. He's not James Brown and he just
stuck with true story he'll tell you. James Brown tells
(39:51):
the same story as an actual show. You can you
two watch some young nineteen twenty year old Mick Jagger
comes out after the one of the greatest showmen ever, Like,
what am I supposed to do it that? So he
just starts trying to do it and he looked like
Rob Parker dancing or trying to climb a table. Here, Rob,
you better give me some more concert experience. Okay, I
(40:11):
don't want to hear about no nineteen ninety four Rop.
You ain't got nothing else.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
I'm just telling you, No, that's it.
Speaker 6 (40:15):
When the last time, what's the last what's the last
concert you went to?
Speaker 8 (40:18):
Rob?
Speaker 4 (40:19):
The last concert I went to might have been I
don't know, sting when I can't remember, Rob.
Speaker 5 (40:28):
I need one of your young hobbies to get you
out there. I need you to go to one of
these young rappers concerts or something
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Speaker 4 (01:11):
Don't forget coming up in uh In about twenty eight minutes,
Antonio Daniel's former NBA champ and Pelicans analyst and Serious
XM Channel, Serious XM NBA radio host, I should say
uh joining us as well, and some shop talk. We'll
(01:32):
get to that as well, Kelvin as we get into
our number two. And I don't know, there's so many
things here. Yeah, do you feel like you've I mean,
I just want on the Lakers.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
Yeah, I mean, obviously the Lakers. There's you know, that's
stuff that is a hot topic. I think we did
a great job giving you know, our opinions and letting
folks jump in. The only thing I was gonna hit
on this was just I'm watching thisviously, Nick Pistons, you
and I have it some invested interest in this, but
I was gonna just say, man, the NIXT to me
remind me of the NBA version of the Dallas Cowboys,
(02:11):
and that the attention they get, the hope that they
get even from TV networks, and everybody gets all excited.
And the more I was watching and just thinking about it,
I'm like, man, the Knicks to be the Knicks. They
just have not lived up to what the publicity they get.
What the ooh they're on TV, let's put them on.
And obviously they're in the postseason now. And I really
(02:33):
like Jalen Bronson Brunton, and obviously they have Cat and
so they're they're playoff team, but you get what I meant.
More so historically where what we've actually gotten from them
results wise, doesn't matter where they are an NBA lore
as far as publicity, television hopes. And obviously New York
is the biggest market in America, so I'm not an
(02:53):
idiot living in Los Angeles, the second biggest market, fully
aware of that, but I just watched a series laugh
to myself, thinking and like, even if you take their
opponent the Pistons, I mean the Pistons, you know, and
since nineteen eighty nine have three championships, and they've been
in the finals obviously multiple times, but they've won eighty nine,
ninety then they won to know four, and I'm like,
the Knicks ever won since the seventies was the seventy two,
(03:14):
seventy three, And I'm like, the Knicks just one of
those organizations semi how the Cowboys every year, we talk
about the Cowboy every obviously what they're gonna do, Yeah,
during the season, hopes of this, and it's like the
map though't map to me. Dallas hadn't won since ninety four,
ninety five, yet they're the biggest thing we talk about
(03:35):
not you and I necessarily, but in sports, the Knicks
are one of those organizations and you really start to
look like, well, dang, what have the Knicks done? And
we talked about the Eastern Conference just a moment ago.
I mean they've been You can name other teams who
have had better runs and better moments than them, the
Milwaukee Bucks, the Pistons obviously, the Bulls and totally to
own the nineties, the Cleveland Cavaliers with the whole Lebron run.
(03:58):
The Miami Heat have had better run.
Speaker 6 (04:00):
And so I was.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
Watching this, this great series and thoroughly enjoyed it, but
I was thinking to myself, man, the league gets so
excited when the Knicks are there, and rightfully so because
of how massive the city is. But to me, it's like, man,
prior to this season, maybe last, the Nickson and other
hopes and the aspirations and the tension and the eyeballs,
I'm like, it just doesn't make sense to me.
Speaker 6 (04:21):
Am I am? I offered thinking that almost so it
doesn't make I.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Just so I don't I don't understand, Like, like, yes,
I don't. I don't even think they get are they
put on television a lot, Yes, because television executives want
networks that have the biggest audiences.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Okay, so the perfect example.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Is the San Antonio Spurs won all those championships and
they have.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Three of the least watch NBA finals ever, Like, it's
not by accident.
Speaker 6 (04:52):
But I don't argue. I get that.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
And the same thing with the Cowboys every time they're
on because people hate watch them too.
Speaker 6 (04:58):
That's true. That's true.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
It's about it's about the networks and eyeballs.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
It's not anything else.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
If the Knicks franchise was in San Antonio, no, they
would if they wouldn't.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
The only thing I don't agree with you want what
you say, Rob, is that with the Spurs, I think
it was more the style of play than more so
just simply being in San Antonio because.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Because they were, they were they were winning is winning. Yeah,
but they were beating people eighty.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
Two to seventy eight the first go you know, first
couple of iterations before the last one in the twenty
you know tens if you will, They were beating people
eighty eight to is seventy six. And it was Tim Duncan.
The star didn't have any personality. Tony Parker really didn't
have that much, and so to me, it was more
so that than the location. I agree, New York is
(05:43):
New York and La is La. So I'm you know,
I'm not naive to that point, but I feel like
for the Knicks to be the Knicks, to be the mecca,
and everybody always says, oh, Kevin Durant's gonna go there,
Kyrie Irvan is gonna go so and so, Everybody's gonna
come and be the next Knicks start.
Speaker 6 (05:57):
And yet it doesn't happen.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
And it's actually un to achieve for being New York,
being the Knicks, being Madison Square Garden, they're supposed to
get the start they're supposed to, Like, why aren't they
competing with the Lakers.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Because they have a terrible owner. I mean, they have
a terrible owner that people don't want to play for.
I mean, it's just it's it's it's just it's documentary.
Speaker 6 (06:21):
If you're Adam Silver, you know something about that.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
At some point, he's a bad owner. And I'm just
telling you, like he threw.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Charles Oakley out of the building, Charles the heart and
soul that that was crazy. Seriously, he threw Charles Oakley
out the building. Like there are a lot of people
who don't like James Dolan, but but they still New
York is a basketball town. They still want to go
to the Garden. They still want to watch basketball, you
(06:50):
know what I mean. Basketball players, no matter where they're from,
talk about playing at Madison Square Garden because that's what
you watched and and the difference in and and some
other plays. I think the Lakers do it. But you know,
they turn the house lights down and you only see
the core the theaters that like you're on Broadway. Yeah,
I feel like you're on a Broadway stage.
Speaker 6 (07:10):
So are they the most underachieving franchises?
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Me?
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Like they're there's so many, I mean, but.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
They're they're supposed given, But I'm saying given everything we
just said. They're in New York. It's the mecca of basketball.
Everybody wants to be there. It's great for business, right,
it's the other la as far as like, oh I
can be in commercials and TV and be all that,
then why the heck do they keep you know, being
subpar or at best they beat the Pistons this round
(07:36):
and go lose to Boston, you know what I mean,
Like it doesn't make sense for them to be this
franchise in New York is supposed to be a marquee
thing and it just never live up to it.
Speaker 6 (07:44):
And it's kind of crazy to me.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
Jerry Jones the highest grossing UH franchise in the NFL.
They're you know, which is the biggest sport American is?
Speaker 4 (07:52):
I mean I could go through I could go through
so many teams. There's just so many teams that we
can go to. Cubs win one hundred years without when
you're in a big city. The Tigers haven't won since
nineteen eighty four.
Speaker 6 (08:05):
That got to the World Series a couple of times.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Yeah, but I can get well, I could say Patrick
Ewing and them. Michael Jordan was in a way when
they had a really good team and they had a
chance and they did go to the finals, they lost
to a Chema Lojawan. I'm not gonna make excuses. They
have a bad owner. It's been run poorly. Team Jerry Jones.
You can make all the money merchandising and tickets all
you want. They have a bad front office that doesn't
(08:29):
run the team. Well, we can go on up. You
talk about the East right until the Celtics finally broke through.
They had gone.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
They went one stretch.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Twenty three years after the Bird and them, they didn't win.
The Pacers, still looking for their first NBA championship, Milwaukee
finally won.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Since what lou Al Sender knows, guys, I mean, like
I can go on and on on about franchises.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
I guess my talent. I hear you saying, but I'm saying,
what given what they have? Meaning you have the resources,
you're It's the reason why with the Lakers right still,
Oh wow, and BRIT's the Lebron, it gets the shack,
It gets to Anthony Davis, you know, it makes it.
It got Kareem obviously fifty years ago, whatever it was.
So it's like it gets the stars and even some
middling players who maybe not superstars, but they're middling.
Speaker 6 (09:14):
And for New York to be New.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
York and every superstar that becomes a Damian Lillard is
going to the day Lebron's going to the Knicks. It's
like the Nick Nick Nick And I'm just getting watching
and preparing for this game and thinking about the series, Like, man,
the Knicks to be in the biggest city in America,
it's a world city.
Speaker 6 (09:32):
You know that like it, just the success hasn't.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Had a before the Dodgers won in twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
They went thirty five years, but I win it. I
don't know, and I.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Like the NL West for you know what I'm saying.
They went thirty five years between championships. The Knicks haven't
won in a long time since Moby Dick was a guppy.
I'll be the first to tell you that. But I
don't think it has anything to do with market size.
It has to do with ownership, front office and people
who can't do the job correctly. That's why the Cowboys
(10:08):
haven't won. They don't have player to have play.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
They gotta stop getting these owners who one loves to
have his band all the time. Jim Dolan, all he
cares about is his band, his new artists and dropping mixtapes.
And then the owner, who all he cares about is
looking good and having radio stations and not making moves
in the actual offseason, not signing guys when he should,
these big, big teams doing nothing, wasting time around here.
Speaker 6 (10:30):
Man, That's just what I guess.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
What I'm just lost about is like you got this
big franchise in the next the NBA would love for
the Knicks to be great in New York, and they
continue to just be not great, and it's just it's
you know, obviously, again it looks like they might beat
the Pistons, but I'm saying, then we expect them to
lose the Celtics. So another year where it's like, there,
what if they beat the Celtics upset, that would be okay, Nah,
you be onto something. Maybe they're heading in the right direction.
(10:52):
I think you as much as much as you thought
everybody was shocked Minnesota beat the Lakers, everybody would be
shocked if the Celtics were to lose to the Knicks.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
There's no way I wouldn't pick that. I'm not saying that,
but I'm saying that's why you play. Everybody picked the
Lakers too, and they didn't win, and I'm just saying
that that's the part where you take another step as
a franchise. Last year, they lost to the Pacers in
Game seven at Madison Square. Guard I know they had
some injuries, they were beat up, but people were going
crazy about them last year. Anytime that they're relatively good,
(11:23):
because they had a really down stretch for a long time,
just like as good as the Pistons. I was there
during the good times. And then if you would have
told somebody they didn't won a playoff game since two
thousand and eight, like the other when they won their
game what was that game two? And won the game
since two thousand and eight.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
Yeah, it's crazy, and I think that I don't get
it twisted.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
I would.
Speaker 6 (11:46):
I want New York. It's great.
Speaker 5 (11:48):
It's when they're the you can literally feel the fans
through the TV when they're up and they're going crazy,
and it reminds you what it's supposed to be. And
I'm just like, how has all of that not translated
to more success?
Speaker 6 (11:58):
You get what I mean?
Speaker 5 (11:59):
Like every the Warrior were okay there all right, then
all of a sudden they had their run and the Spurs,
and then the Spurs had to run, and the Lakers
and now the Celtics are counting in their bag and
you just mentioned it. The Pistons had to run and
just like how the Knicks not had a run since
the early seventies.
Speaker 6 (12:12):
That's just crazy to me.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
But they had runs. They just thought to Michael Jordan,
I mean.
Speaker 6 (12:17):
The nineties run, that's right.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
I don't mean it was phrased, I will be fair,
the nineties was a fun time when they was beating
everybody up.
Speaker 6 (12:23):
I agree with that.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
That was a fun time them against the for sure.
I don't want to be in a little of the
nineties run. I'll be You're right about that. I do
not want to be a little of the nineties run
because that was a fun run. Hit them and the
pacers going out of them.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
And the balls.
Speaker 6 (12:38):
That was a run.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
So I won't I won't hate on that. I won't
hate on the nineties Knicks. That was a great that
was fun run, for sure. But I just came'm saying
it hasn't worked out where they've had a well obviously
literally haven't won a championship or really really seriously contended
in quite some time.
Speaker 6 (12:53):
And I saw, I'm say, man, this is New York.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
This is the biggest city in America, the biggest market,
the biggest basketball town, and it's just the mat just
did the math didn't mad to me?
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Rob, Well, I do want to add this, I guess.
Speaker 6 (13:07):
JJ Reddick, Well he didn't did or say it?
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Had a press conference, uh you know, post the exit interviews. Yeah, yes,
And this is from ESPN you got it. Let's let's
listen to the sound.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Let's hear this.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
I've seen the trend now, I've seen the trend for years.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
What's the trend. The trend is always Wait a minute,
let's Alex stop that for a second.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
And this was JJ Reddick ripping on uh Doc Rivers
for not being accountable. And it sounded like after yesterday
he was making some excuses about stuff. So let's hear this.
Sounds it's funny to hear it now that he's a coach.
Here here he is talking about Doc Rivers.
Speaker 7 (13:50):
I've seen the trend now, I've seen the.
Speaker 6 (13:52):
Trend for years.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
What's the trend. The trend is always making excuses getting Doc.
Speaker 6 (13:56):
We get it.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Taking over a team in the middle of the season
is hard.
Speaker 6 (13:59):
It's hard.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
We get it, just like getting traded in the middle
of season.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
It's hard for a player.
Speaker 6 (14:03):
We get it.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
But it's always an excuse.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
There's never accountability with that guy. Well, there's never accountability.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
And my only thing is what did he bring up?
Speaker 4 (14:13):
Yeah, Luca and Lebron played thirteen games or whatever he
came up with. And and and I have to as
you as you look at this and going forward. I'm
just asking you his first year coach and never being
a coach before. Uh And I saw I saw Jay
Will on ESPN today refuse to criticize him because they
(14:36):
both played at Duke.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Well, that's nice.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
I probably would have told him to take the Yeah,
can you can you take the day off if you
can't give me an honest take on the job. And
that's what we want to do here is I would
love what's your honest opinion of JJ his first year
and did he hurt the Lakers or was the players who?
Speaker 6 (14:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (15:00):
My true answer, I think I'm very indifferent on JJ,
just because I didn't see there was a period even
a little like a month before Luca where they actually
started the jail. Defensively, we're playing better, but I do
think one thing he's gonna have to realize is finding
that balance of he's a little high strung right now,
and I think he thinks that's gonna be good, right
being like super wild tightener that actually isn't gonna work
(15:25):
well in your favor. You gotta understand it's a long season.
Some games are gonna win, sometimes you're gonna lose. Like
finding your flow, finding your rhythm, I think he's a
little too tight. Can't ask some certain questionss Like, dude,
you just started like we can ask you questions to
be the media and all of that. So I think
he's a little high strung. The players the real issue
for me again, if you're asking me, I told you
my Luca take for you know, last hour, So I
(15:46):
hold Luca accountable for sure, but also Rob Polinka, it
just that's just his job as a general manager. I
have to give you the groceries. I have to provide
you to then cook and then the players to go
ahead and do what they do. And I need you
to provide the groceries if I'm JJ, if I'm the
players the grocery, dude. The onus was on Luke and
(16:07):
Lebron and obviously you thought Austin Reeds as a third player, but.
Speaker 6 (16:10):
That thing wasn't looking good.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
When I tell you about Vanderbilt and Jackson Hayes and
and Gay Vincent and Knnect who ain't even playing, I
don't know what that's all about on the bench, Like
I need you look at the teams right now, Rob,
that are thriving. These teams are deep deep. You look
at Houston, they are a bunch of players. You look
at Boston might have more than anybody. You look at OKC.
I mean, you look at Minnesota. These teams are deep
(16:34):
with real quality shoot, pass, dribble and defined the roles,
define roles. And that is one thing I would have
an issue, slight issue with with JJ is what happened
between Jackson and Hayes being a serviceable you know, playing
his role to literally not even get a game. Did
I miss something? Nobody's thinking he was the return of
Tim Duncan. There was the return of a keem Olajuwan,
(16:57):
But how was he getting twenty twenty five minutes a game?
Getting you eight you know, nine, ten and and and
six to literally not playing?
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Like?
Speaker 6 (17:05):
What what did I miss?
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Rob?
Speaker 6 (17:07):
Did I did you see something? I don't know what
happened there.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
I'm gonna say this that the Lakers made a disastrous
uh hire.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Of JJ Reddick.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
From this standpoint, you can't waste if you're gonna have
a forty year old player on a new beat coach
on somebody who's learning on the job. And I think
this is where the mistake was.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
You can't do that. There's not enough for JJ to
figure it out in three years, you know, like.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
A year old at the time, best player exactly and
that and that just doesn't make any sense to me.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
That's why I was against the hire, and I think
he cost them. I think that.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
Game four of playing all those guys, all those minutes,
all the entire second half cost the Lakers. They should
won that game and tied this series up, and they
didn't get it done because they ran out of gas.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
And I gotta blame uh JJ Reddick.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
So all right, eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox,
Kelvin is willing to continue with JJ Reddick?
Speaker 2 (18:16):
You think he can get better, correct and build.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
Yeah, I mean I don't I he I'm more My
ONNUS is on Rob Polinka bettering the roster doing his
job more than j J.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
So there it is.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Is it the roster and Rob Palinka has the most
pressure on him or JJ Reddick as far as being
a better coach. Which one do you think is going
to be able to affect the Lakers going forward?
Speaker 2 (18:40):
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on the way, we got Antonio Daniels coming up here
in just a little bit. Looking forward to seeing what
he has to say with some of the NBA action.
But Robin I taking calls JJ Reddick, Rob Plinka, who
you kind of signing with that has to do more work?
Or is the problem I'm saying Rob Blink has got
to put more work in with his roster. Rob says
(19:47):
JJ was a bad hire from the start.
Speaker 6 (19:49):
What say you? Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox
that we got.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
All right let's go with Paul and Rhode Island. You're
on the EYD couple Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
What's up, Paul?
Speaker 8 (19:58):
Listen, I thank you and Iana best one all the time,
especially for Formula one.
Speaker 9 (20:05):
But let me.
Speaker 8 (20:06):
Tell you something. You have a forty year old dynamic player.
You cannot I mean, JJ Reddick, he did his job.
Don't tell me, don't tell my intelligence did not do
his job. He had two players and he did not
have a deep betch. Okay, let me tell you something.
(20:28):
You are not the Celtics, but let me tell you something.
I'm telling you right now. You cannot disgrace Lebron and Luca. Okay,
let me tell you Okay, all.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Right, Paul, thanks for the call.
Speaker 6 (20:43):
Appreciate I wanted to tell you something.
Speaker 7 (20:45):
Rob.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
Yeah, he's gonna tell me something. Okay, you could tell
it to the Lakers who are going to Cancun. Josh
in Orlando, you're in the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
What's up, Josh?
Speaker 9 (20:55):
Let me tell you guys something, all right, really quick?
Speaker 6 (21:00):
Right, thank you, Josh, that was funny.
Speaker 9 (21:02):
Here's my fifteen seconds and what might take. So my
thing is I think it's on Pelinka. I think Pelinka
is shopping at all these grocery stores, getting all these mismatches,
and he's not getting one consistent. Tame Austin Reeves. He's
no longer him, He's not the third piece, and I
think he needs to trade him to find someone better
as far as a defensive But Josh, let me ask.
Speaker 6 (21:22):
You this though.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
Let me add seriously, Josh, so everybody was random raving
about how great their defense was, how they had their
three stars, how there was nobody in their pathway to
get to the finals. They lose, and now they.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Don't have enough players.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
Is that what it is, because that should have been
all eleven people on ESPN dot com picked the Lakers
in this first round all eleven.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
So they didn't see it, right?
Speaker 4 (21:52):
Is that it because they were the third seed, not
the sixth seed, not the play in the third seed
in the West.
Speaker 9 (22:00):
Yeah, but if you look at the third in the
sixth seed, it was a difference like a one game.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
The third seed, they are speed.
Speaker 9 (22:09):
I think is that the Lakers caught lightning in a
bottle when they got Luca and the teams didn't know
how to play him. But after a couple of games
have gone by the coaches have learned how to adjust,
and they used Luca as the as the scapegole on
the pick and rolls, and.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
They all they do is just run at Luca the
I don't know that that's been out there forever. I mean,
they've sold a million copies of that.
Speaker 6 (22:28):
But that's the Josh.
Speaker 5 (22:30):
Yeah, I appreciate you, Josh squeezing. One morning, we got
Monti and Antonio coming up.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
All right, let's do it real quick, Kenneth in San Antonio,
you're in the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 10 (22:39):
I think everybody's missing the point. Really, if you think
about it, JJ is just a figurehead. The real coach
on that team is Lebron. If Lebron wants to play,
or if Lebron wants to sit, that's what he's gonna do.
I think y'all are putting too much onus on JJ,
when in reality, Lebron's running the team. He's the one
(23:01):
getting these figs. He's the one bringing these people in.
If you really want to fix it, bring in.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
So Lebron is the one who said, I'm forty years old,
I want to play the entire second half. Yeah, with
no other no other team Since nineteen ninety seven had
ever done.
Speaker 9 (23:17):
No no Ron.
Speaker 10 (23:18):
Nobody else has got Lebron on their team. Dude, if
he wants to play, he's gonna play. JJ's not gonna
be able to tell him to sids.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
You know that, while I believe Lebron is very powerful,
appreciate the contient. I think you might be giving him
just a little bit. Maybe he plays. But on a
larger conversation, you still have coaches that could do some
Frank Vogel had them boys playing defense like I'm not
gonna act like there are yes. Absolutely, Lebron has a
powerful uh you know, swag within an organization without a doubt.
But you can have a coach that has an identity.
(23:48):
Maybe JJ doesn't know it yet. Frank Vogel knew his
His was a defensive minded team. Robolink I got him
defensive players KCP Caruso, JaVale McGee, Dwight Howard, Kuzma.
Speaker 6 (23:57):
They are playing. That's where their style was. It's great defense.
Speaker 5 (24:01):
And JJ doesn't know his identity yet, and Rob Polaka
is gonna have to They're gonna have to work together
to find that in tandem.
Speaker 6 (24:07):
What the heck they're good at?
Speaker 11 (24:08):
All?
Speaker 8 (24:08):
Right?
Speaker 5 (24:08):
We got Antonio Daniels around the quarner. We can ask
him some of these questions. Also good when going right
now with the New York and the Knicks and the Pistons,
it's Maazi Blanio is gonna tell us what's trendy?
Speaker 11 (24:18):
Quick question on what you just said?
Speaker 6 (24:20):
Did I? Okay?
Speaker 12 (24:21):
I just want can JJ Reddick find an identity with
Lebron James, who is at the end of his career.
Can he find an identity like that?
Speaker 5 (24:29):
I believe so because I've seen other people do it. Okay,
I think I gave you an example Frank Vogel that
team was efficient on offense, but defense was a priority.
Speaker 12 (24:37):
But you know, because it's gonna change when he's done,
whether it's next year in two years, Like wouldn't the
identity of around n.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
I said, it's around Luca is shut. I've been screaming
Lucas for the last hour and a half.
Speaker 6 (24:48):
You're right, and it should be and it should be
And that's how they used to form the defense around
who around Luka?
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 12 (24:53):
Because yeah, yeah, absolutely, absolutely So. The Knicks are trying
to close out this series against the Pistons. They came
out but in the second quarter. The Pistons have kind
of taken over. They've outscored New York thirty one to twenty.
There's still ninety seconds to go in the first half,
but at one point Detroit was down by fifteen.
Speaker 6 (25:11):
They are just down by three right now.
Speaker 12 (25:13):
Fifty six actually they just scored, so fifty seven to
fifty six is the score?
Speaker 6 (25:17):
Hey, how far ahead you are?
Speaker 12 (25:18):
Now?
Speaker 6 (25:19):
This drives me. You know, I'm plugging my ears next
time you give me to score.
Speaker 7 (25:23):
You know what it is.
Speaker 12 (25:23):
I have the It's the Internet and the TV at
the same time, so I can kind of yeah, see,
youre right, they're not. Yes, yes, I am ahead of
you a little bit. I apologize, but yeah. The Pistons
have cut the deficit two one, fifty seven to fifty
six one minute to go in the first half. The
leading scorer of the game right now is Jalen Brunson,
though he's got twenty points to go along with four assists.
(25:44):
Carl Anthony Towns had a hot second in the first quarter,
also has calmed down. He's got seven points and seven
rebounds for Detroit. The leading score as Malik Beasley off
the bench. He's got fifteen points again, just a one
point game in this Game six, where New York can
close it out. The clip are going to try and
keep their season alive as they take on the Nuggets
in Game six at into It Dome that tips off
(26:05):
at ten Eastern, and then we'll move on to the
NHL playoffs. Some Maple Leaves are edging the Senators right now,
two to one, two minutes to go in the second period.
Toronto does lead the series three to two. The Golden
Knights and the Wild are tied at one apiece after
the first period, and Vegas.
Speaker 6 (26:21):
Leads this series three to two.
Speaker 12 (26:23):
There's still two games to come in the Stanley Cup
playoffs as well.
Speaker 6 (26:26):
In Major League.
Speaker 12 (26:27):
Baseball, the Phillies were up not anymore. The Nationals have
taken the lead. It's four to two bottom of the
seventh inning in Philadelphia, and the Red Sox of a
two zero lead over the Blue Jays. It's the bottom
of the sixth inning. Earlier today in baseball, the a
shut out the Rangers three zero, and the White Sox
shut out the Brewers eight zero.
Speaker 6 (26:44):
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Speaker 6 (27:17):
What's up ady?
Speaker 7 (27:19):
What's up? Fellas?
Speaker 6 (27:20):
How you doing doing? Good man?
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Great?
Speaker 4 (27:22):
So, Antonio, were you a part of the media hoard
that drank all of the Lakers kool aid as well?
Speaker 7 (27:32):
No?
Speaker 4 (27:34):
No, why didn't you buy in where all these people
had them with a clear path not only to win
the first round, but to get to the finals.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Like I just couldn't.
Speaker 7 (27:44):
I can tell you why then buy I can tell
you in a heartbeat, rob why than buy it? Because
I don't believe in Big three. I don't believe in
Big two's, especially when they all do the same thing.
We continue to see this year after year, after teams
try and skip steps by simply throwing talent together and
(28:04):
thinking that it's gonna work. Phoenix, No, it's not gonna work. Brooklyn, No,
it's not gonna work. You can go down the list
the Lakers. The thing that I liked about the Lakers
initially was just the fact that they had the star
power and the far power. My question was not in
the regular season, when you're gonna play Charlotte on one
night and then Utah on the next night, and then
(28:25):
the Pelicans on the next night, and then where you
can look really good on certain night. I'm talking about
the postseason. How is it gonna look in the postseason
with Lebron next to Luca, next to Austin Reeves? And
we got our answer, all right.
Speaker 5 (28:39):
So jump on in this one ad. We've been having conversations.
Rob said, Lebron need to retire. I said, bruh average
twenty four to eight to eight or whatever it was.
It's absolutely crazy to me. This is the perfect season
for him. I don't know if you saw dee Way
recently did it in a podcast? He said that him
and Lebron they decided to lock in the year. They
were like, we gotta win this finals. And they were
tied together. And I think this is that offseason for
(29:02):
Luca to study up. How you get in best shape
here in Lo you do something.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
Antonio Lebron is two and twelve in his last fourteen
playoff games.
Speaker 7 (29:14):
Listen, you know what I won't do. I won't make
this about Lebron. This that about Lebron. It's not to
be honest. No, this and Abron Lebron. Lebron forty years
old and still playing high level basketball. He's the best
conditioned athlete on that team. As much as people try
and shift this and deflect this to Lebron, this has
a lot to do with Luca, that's what. For some reason,
(29:36):
But for some reason, people don't want to have this
conversation because it's easier to talk bad about Lebron than
talk about it's not.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
That's not true.
Speaker 7 (29:45):
I don't Maybe maybe just maybe maybe what Nico Harrison
saw in Division that he saw made sense. Maybe it
makes this.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
I've already said that. I'm with you, I've said this,
I've said this.
Speaker 7 (30:02):
Listen. It's unfair. It's unfair for Lebron James at forty
years old to have to one play the center position
because j j Reddick made drastic changes from the regular
season to the postseason. Number two to have to guard
the best perimeter player on the opposing team, because this
Lakers team is not constructed to defend a team like Minnesota.
(30:26):
That's not on Lebron. Sorry, can do that.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
Lebron also, and the look at his numbers in the
fourth quarter, look at the big turning point game. I'm
just saying, like, like you could talk about compiling numbers, okay,
and I get that. You want to go look at
Lebron always score twenty four. Don't blame him, but that's
not how it's done. How much how much impact did
you have? What baskets did you get when your team
(30:52):
needed him he got They got nothing from him Land
And that's why I'm saying, how long are you going
to play? Sometimes? Go overstay, You're welcome. You're not the
same player. How is he two and twelve in his
last fourteen playoff games?
Speaker 7 (31:07):
Hey, there's no question he's not the same player, Rob,
because he's forty years old. There's no one is saying.
No one's saying that he's the saying. No one's saying
that he's the same player. Here's what I saw Lebron do. Actually,
it's funny how it works, because Lebron's damned if he does,
and damned if he doesn't. You know what people saying,
Lebron needs to take a back seat, and you know
(31:29):
what he is. He took a back seat to Luca.
And now you know what people are saying, Oh, man,
you know what, he didn't show up. I thought he
was supposed to take a back seat.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
A back seat doesn't mean you go scoreless in the
fourth quarter of a deciding game four.
Speaker 7 (31:42):
On the road. And and you know what euse that means.
Without that means is your coach doesn't make drafted decisions
like at forty years old saying you know what, I'm
gonna play you the entire second half.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
I agree, I JJ Reddick was a bad hire. You
can't learn on the job with a forty year old superstar.
I'm saying it. I'm saying it. Okay, you can't. It's ridiculous, Lebron.
You cannot, no ot, have a guy learn on the job,
Have a guy do something playing all five players. Come on, man,
(32:18):
look at that team.
Speaker 7 (32:21):
I'm not saying it wrong, but think about how many
coaches have learned on the job. Steve Kerr learned on
the job, you know what I mean, Steve, and.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Also Steve Nash learned on the job. How did that
get them? There's plenty of guys who have failed. There's plenty.
There's plenty who have failed.
Speaker 7 (32:37):
But there are also something that has to see Popovitch
learned on the job. You know what I mean. So
it doesn't there are success stories and failures no matter what.
And after one year of coach, but.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
The difference between pop pop Pop wasn't an assistant coach.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
JJ was never a coach zero.
Speaker 7 (32:57):
There are many robed that weren't coaches. After one bad,
very poor coach postseason series, I am not at the
point well I'm ready to say JJ Reddit was a
bad higher. I'm not there.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
Hey, Ad, real quick for us, real quick for us.
What do you do with Giannis? Are you pushing through
another year? He's gonna be Daniel Lillard's gonna be Okay,
you sound like me, it's not yeah, go ahead, no, no.
Speaker 7 (33:26):
Like it comes a point where like there are certain
teams that pushed all of their chips to the middle
of the table.
Speaker 9 (33:32):
Not are stuck.
Speaker 7 (33:33):
Phoenix did this. Now they're stuck they don't have a
choice because the three things that you need they don't have.
They don't have financial flexibility in Milwaukee as well, they
don't have financial flexibility. They don't have assets as far
as drafting is concerned, and and they don't have good
young players to build around outside of Yannis George, you
(33:53):
don't have that. Now it's time to reset, and I
don't need I think this is should be a collaboration
of you know what, we did this. We got a
championship with this. Now with time for both of us
to move on. Trade me so you can get assets,
but just send me somewhere that I want to go.
Speaker 5 (34:11):
All right, well, we gotta leave it there. AD always
great having you on. As always, we appreciate your time,
my guy, Thank.
Speaker 7 (34:18):
You for sure. Appreciate it fellas All right, Rob, all.
Speaker 6 (34:20):
Right, shop talk is next.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
In is in.
Speaker 5 (34:24):
Let's see what he's got cooked up for us when
we come back as the odd Couple. Rob Parker, Kelvin
Washington on a TV theme song Thursday. Fox Sports Radio
Stick with your Boys.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
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Speaker 5 (34:49):
Fox Sports Radio. It is the Odd Couple, Rob Parker
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Speaker 6 (35:00):
Right now to start for shop Talk.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Ain't nobody, ain't nothing to bob shop.
Speaker 11 (35:08):
You know that.
Speaker 6 (35:08):
Ain't nobody? You were talking about whoever, whatever, whatever you
want to in a box?
Speaker 2 (35:13):
So why you not mat shop talking?
Speaker 5 (35:16):
Hit it?
Speaker 7 (35:17):
All?
Speaker 11 (35:18):
Right? So shop Talk today's well anyway, let me explain
the concept. First, shop talk it's like a barbershop. We
talk about something outside of the world of sports. We
do it once a week here on Thursdays on The
Odd Couple. So today's topic, we're gonna get into music
festivals and we're gonna need Monci's help on this one too.
Just all the the younger crowd Alex as well. Uh,
because if you've been so you're telling me to just
(35:39):
get off, well, you're not part of the younger crowd
or off. This one's easy. This one's easy.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
I'm in the hip crowd. It's just the only problem
is the broken hip crowd and you.
Speaker 5 (35:49):
All by the way, our comment's been going crazy and
you almost breaking him Manzi.
Speaker 6 (35:55):
Your laugh.
Speaker 13 (35:55):
You know it's funny though I didn't think about it.
BELI check makes Rob look better if you really think
about it. Oh, elaborate, Actually that's actually a good thing
for you, right, please simple because we're always giving Rob
hate for liking younger women. Belichick's just like dating grandchildren
at this.
Speaker 5 (36:08):
Point, right, and he looks like a hostage at least
Robs he was sitting there. I wanted to say, hey, Bill,
blink twice you all right? If you need help, blink twice?
Speaker 7 (36:17):
All right?
Speaker 6 (36:17):
What you got for Sean?
Speaker 11 (36:19):
So yeah, anyway, this past weekend was Stage Coach, the
country music festival. I personally have never been, but you know,
I dabble in country music sometimes. But the weekend before
was Coachella. So the point is we're in that season,
that time of year where all these music festivals are
going on.
Speaker 6 (36:34):
Concerts.
Speaker 11 (36:35):
Just wondering if you guys have any particular stories experiences
from concerts or music festivals that you went to that
worth bringing up at this time of year.
Speaker 6 (36:45):
Calvin, I know you mentioned you at some point. Oh yeah,
I got a couple, Rob, you got one is this
too easy?
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Too easy? All right?
Speaker 6 (36:52):
That means I'll go. I got you all right, so
we could start with the fact adding to your list.
Speaker 5 (36:58):
Ian today literally to Beyonce's second show at Sofi Stadium
here in La I had a chance to go to
the other night. Decide not to go because I wanted to.
I said, I wanted to spend time with my boo
aka Rob Parker. So I was here with you. Got
a chance to meet Beyonce, though I bought it to that.
No true story, by the way, I really could have went,
but I was like whatever, I'm justcuding. You know, I
(37:19):
don't feel like making a hassle doing all that. Plus
I gotta see Rob.
Speaker 12 (37:21):
Nobody wants to go to Sofi.
Speaker 5 (37:23):
Yeah yeah, too far. Well with that being said, I
did meet Beyonce. Oh two thousand and eight. Okay, long
story short, working in radio, you want to go to
the show? No past, But my boss goes, all right,
well it was a meet and greet. I said, hold up,
you didn't say all that.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
Player.
Speaker 6 (37:43):
Call my girlfriend now wife, say hey, you want to
go now? And I says to meet and greed. I
got us out.
Speaker 8 (37:47):
So we go.
Speaker 5 (37:48):
Great show and at the end, we meet Beyonce and
I swear for two seconds, I had to shot Ian, Yeah,
we both neither of us were married yet we will
both be married.
Speaker 6 (37:59):
But I a chance.
Speaker 5 (38:00):
She gave me a look like if you want to holler?
Shut up, Alex. She said, if you want to holler shahalla,
But I stuttered. Y'all know I'm smooth and cool. It
was the first time in my life I've bro have
to hit it. They're like, oh, Beyonce, this is the
radio guy from Flint, Michigan.
Speaker 6 (38:15):
Blah blah bah.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
No, I.
Speaker 6 (38:18):
Swear to you I've never happened before. I was like,
how you a great child? Yeah? She got you flustered. Bruh,
she's beatle flustered. She's beautiful, Alex.
Speaker 5 (38:27):
I'm not about to do this with you. Ninety nine
percent of people would understand that except you.
Speaker 6 (38:31):
Yeah, Alex, this is an incredibly hot take you. Yeah,
I would not find right?
Speaker 2 (38:35):
Should I do mine?
Speaker 7 (38:36):
Yes? Right?
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Is it any chance?
Speaker 11 (38:38):
Go?
Speaker 4 (38:38):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (38:39):
Go?
Speaker 2 (38:39):
I wave you that.
Speaker 11 (38:41):
Go.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
Nineteen ninety four, Michigan State University in East Lanson. I
went and saw the rolling stones outside at Spartan Stadium,
and I was literally ten or twelve rows from the front.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
It was incredible to see Mick Jagger that close.
Speaker 6 (38:59):
Was he damn doing his craziness? Do you know what
the origin of that is?
Speaker 4 (39:03):
From nineteen ninety four, how long ago that was? But
I can't believe how close I got to seeing him,
you know what I mean? It was right up ten rolls,
twelve rolls from the stuffy.
Speaker 5 (39:12):
Do you know the origin of his moves or lack thereof?
There was a show in the nineteen sixties. They were
the young big band from Britain, but they weren't the
biggest he quite yet James Brown was bigger than him.
Speaker 6 (39:25):
James Brown goes out kills it.
Speaker 5 (39:26):
This is young James Brown smokes it, dancing doing all
the James Brown stuff.
Speaker 6 (39:30):
True story.
Speaker 5 (39:30):
Mick Jagger said it. You can see the video of it.
He sees him killing the crowd. He's in here like
I ain't got all that, you know, I'm about to
go up here and rock, but I ain't got all that.
And he goes up there and he literally just tries
to impersonate James Brown, just moving and just and it
obviously looks terrible. He's not James Brown and he just
stuck with true story he'll tell you. James Brown tells
(39:51):
the same story as an actual show. You can you
two watch some young nineteen twenty year old Mick Jagger
comes out after the one of the greatest showmen ever, Like,
what am I supposed to do it that? So he
just starts trying to do it and he looked like
Rob Parker dancing or trying to climb a table. Here, Rob,
you better give me some more concert experience. Okay, I
(40:11):
don't want to hear about no nineteen ninety four Rop.
You ain't got nothing else.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
I'm just telling you, No, that's it.
Speaker 6 (40:15):
When the last time, what's the last what's the last
concert you went to?
Speaker 8 (40:18):
Rob?
Speaker 4 (40:19):
The last concert I went to might have been I
don't know, sting when I can't remember, Rob.
Speaker 5 (40:28):
I need one of your young hobbies to get you
out there. I need you to go to one of
these young rappers concerts or something
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