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Speaking of fun, Rob, I'm gonna have a lot of
fun watching the big game. I think it's probably the
biggest game of the weekend. It is the Buffalo Bills
at the Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
These are certainly two of the top.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Ten teams in the league, but one of them Buffalo,
despite being ten and six, might not make the playoffs.
If they lose, they could miss the playoffs. They could
lose and still get in if Pittsburgh's or Jacksonville loses,
but they're fighting for their playoff lives. If they want
to control their own destiny, the Bills need to win.
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And I'll say this, Rob, if they missed the playoffs
with a ten and I guess they'd be ten and
seven record when for the past several years you have
been about winning the Super Bowl when you have one
of the best quarterbacks in the league, when your coach,
(02:50):
Rob put up a huge banner in the facility saying
super Bowl that that's our goal. Now that's where we're
going to picture of the trophy, and you don't even
make the playoffs. And part of the reason Rob, you
wouldn't make the playoffs would be that you lost to
(03:11):
the freaking Jets without Aaron Rodgers, that you lost to
the New England Patriots. I mean, there's no excuses, and
so Rob, it is going to be devastating if Buffalo
loses this game and misses the playoffs. So the question
(03:35):
would be who is most to blame. They all would
be to blame to some degree, But would you be
most on McDermott, Sean McDermott the coach, or Josh Allen
the quarterback.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
It's to McDermott. You could replace coaches, it's hard to
replace quarterbacks. You know, when you think about where they were, well,
how many seconds were left in Kansas City? Thirteen eighteen
was thirteen thirteen seconds? Like that changed the whole franchise.
They were thirteen seconds away. If they I don't know,
Chris squib kicked it. I was gonna say, that's the
(04:07):
first first thing. Squib kick it that eight seconds go off, Chris,
eight or nine? Squip kick it. You don't kick it
to the person to return. It doesn't even make sense,
Like who's coaching. I'm not even a football coach. Come on, Chris,
it they they thought, Rob.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
I think they thought like many casual football fans with
it in thirteen say it's over.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
I mean, and the it ain't never over. I'm not blame.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
I'm not absolving them, because that's why you get paid, right,
you gotta. You're supposed to think beyond the casual, Chris.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Just most people think our thirteen seconds is over.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
Just like we talked about your football coach.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
You're not supposed to think that way, Shanahan.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Chris. When when the Falcons choke down that Super Bowl, yep,
they're in field goal ran kicking field go You're up
by eleven. Tom Brady can't beat you, Chris, go back.
Can rewatch the game where they're taking a snap with
time left on the you know the clock, the play clock,
like you're supposed to run it down all the way, Chris,
(05:11):
every single down right, yep?
Speaker 2 (05:13):
So did you leave?
Speaker 4 (05:15):
So did you leave less and less time for Tom
Brady to match the ball down? What part don't they get?
But anyway, it's McDermott, Chris. It just is, there's no
way this team. You already brought it up, starting with
that Jets game. Really this teammate making the playoffs. It
went to that. I'm sorry. I know, we just gave
you a new contract. They letting coaches go every day, Chris,
(05:37):
with contracts. I mean, Josh McDaniel's got four years left, Chris. Bye,
we'll write your check. Bye. Once you realize a guy,
you just have to make a change. And here's the
other scary part. As you know, the windows closed quickly.
And like I told you before the season, I remember
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I picked them as a card, but I told you
I did not like the way they were trending. And
I said I was out on Buffalo. Didn't I tell
you that I'm out on Buffalo?
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Well, you weren't that out because you picked them to
make the.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
No, but I said that I don't. I don't have them.
I want to go back.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
You did say you were out, No, id, we said
you were down on them, but you still picked them
to make the playoffs, right, But I said I was
out on Buffalo, like the winning a championship.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
I just this group, this team. But anyway, McDermott is
the one. They lose this game and they don't make that.
They don't get in at all, make the play. I
think they'll rob if.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
They and and look, we don't take pleasure in firing coaching. No.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
And it's interesting, Rob, because you hear people all the
time that do what we do say I don't like
firing coaches or I won't fight.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Well, but you don't mind dogging players.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
I know, dog criticizing players doing a good job, right,
and they get caught and they get their livelihoods taken away,
they get rid of him, right exactly, But they don't
feel it's the same thing.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
And I agree.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
And those are the same guys Chris, who will sit
there and talk about how great a coach is you
know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
And what he did?
Speaker 5 (07:08):
Oh my, I have that guys, my coach. Well wait
a minute, so it's just what he does. Well, come on, man,
come on, we not it's not We're not up here.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Whether there's a player or coach trying to take anybody's livelihood.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
None of this has to do with personality, whether we like.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
It or not or not.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
I like Doc Rivers, Rob, I covered Doc, I mean
all the time.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
I who does just like Doc Rivers. That doesn't mean
that when they show me right, we called it like
it was. Yes, And you know what if Doc is
mad or Chris, we just have to live with it, right.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
I mean, I don't know what else to say. I
say this, and I think you probably would say the
same thing.
Speaker 6 (07:48):
Rob.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
I'm I got a bunch of great friends, and I
want to make more friends. But if I don't make
another friend for the rest of my life, I'm still
blessed and got plenty of friends.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
I mean, I don't you know, like we gotta tell
the truth.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
What would what would be the purpose of being on
the radio, Chris and doing this show? Seriously, if we're
gonna sit here and glad him. I know people do
it and and try to skate for years or whatever,
and they don't want to not really, and they don't
want to upset the Apple card. And let me just
try to stay below the fray, Chris and not get anybody.
You can't. Yeah, you can't live that life. I'm telling you,
(08:29):
you just can't. You just gotta tell it like it
like it is, and if people don't like it, they
don't like it.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
It's nothing to.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Get Sean McDermott or anything because I don't know about it.
And I'll say this too. I think he's a good
football coach, but it just didn't happen.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
If they now look, if they go on a nice
little run, everything's changed.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
But he is Rob.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
I've said this many times when I've talked about him.
He did an excellent job of turning that team into
a perennial playoff team. They had not been that for
nearly two decades before he got there, and so he.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Did a good job with that.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
And I think if he loses this job, he will
get another head coaching job again. I'm not saying right
away necessarily, but he will be a head coach again.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
I firmly believe, and I think that's fine. I think
he should be.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
But if they don't make the playoffs or Rob, Honestly,
to me, they have to do.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
More than just make the playoffs for him to keep
his job.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Because I think the culture there is bad and it
might whether it's his fault or not. I mean, he
is the leader, you set the tone. But Rob, they
just are stale. They just you know, it, just something's
not right there, and a lot of times that you
(09:47):
need a new voice, You need a new voice and that.
So I think I'm with you on that. Sean McDermott
will be the one who's head would roll as far
as Josh Allen. Rob to me, I would not make
a broad overarching statement about Josh Allen. I wouldn't be like, oh,
he's not a great player. He's still a great player.
(10:08):
I wouldn't be like, oh he's not a top quarter
He's still a top quarterback. I wouldn't think, oh, you
can't win with him, you can't win a super Bowl
with him.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
No, I think they could going forward. We'll see.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
I will just be like, dude had a down year,
not a horrible year. Passing numbers were down almost across
the board, not completion percentagy was up, but everything else
was down. But his running obviously fifteen touchdowns, that's an
NFL record along with Jalen Hurts for a quarterback. So
he had a little bit of a down year. But
I think they need a new coach. They need a
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new culture, preferably an offensive coach for him, and you know,
they need to add some new players, get rid of
some old players and things like that. But Rob, to me,
it wouldn't be like, oh, this dude's not as good
as we've thought he was. Because I look Tom Brady
after he won his.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
First Super Bowl didn't make the playoffs the next year.
I get it.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
He wasn't Tom Brady yet, Okay, but still, Rob, A
lot of people feel like, once you make the playoffs,
if you're a great player, once you break that threshold
and you're in your prime, you should make the playoffs
every year.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
They're thinking, Manny, Rob. You know, Peyton Manning after they
made the playoffs the first two years, went six and
ten and missed them.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
John Elway, who vic Vangel compared Josh Allen too.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Went to the two Super Bowls, which didn't go well
for him.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
It was horrible in the second one, and then missed
the playoffs completely. Went back to the Super Bowl the
next year, then missed the playoffs completely.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Like so this to.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Me, Rob, it's unfortunate, it's bad, but it's not gonna
make me think, oh, he really isn't that good of
a player.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
No, this is not an indict This is not a
referendum Chris on Josh Allen. That's not what this is.
And it could be a bad year and they can
miss the playoffs and no one's gonna say, let you
gotta find a new quarterback. But this is a referendum
on that whole organization, on the coach, and they have
to come hell of high water, Chris, make the playoffs.
(12:15):
They just have to, because this is when you are
supposed to be in the mix and you don't even
make the playoffs. And you could go back to a
couple of games that you should have won that you lost.
This could this should have been an easy ride. When
Aaron Rodgers goes out if you lost game one, Aaron
Rodgers played the Jets and nine to eleven, Chris, and
(12:35):
he comes out with the flag.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Okay, all right, you lost Aaron.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Rodgers in New Jersey. That's not the end of the world.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Yep, he gets he gets hurt.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
Four plays in floor, four snaps in you can't beat
that team off?
Speaker 2 (12:49):
That was that was bad.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
And four turnovers, remember Josh had four turnovers.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Yeah, he was horrible. Rob That would cost you the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Yep, that's the game right there that would.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Have cost you. And again you lose to the Patriots too.
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Speaker 2 (13:13):
Misses the playoffs? Who is this on?
Speaker 1 (13:15):
More Sean McDermott the head coach or Josh Allen the
star quarterback? And what would you do next if you
were running the Bills? What would be the ramifications, the
consequences and repercussions.
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Speaker 2 (14:13):
Oh my, I'd say that's a B side.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
It may bee B sides probably a little too strong,
Sister Sledge, this is a jam. We our family got
All of Love, which was a great song, but this
was a jam.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Lost in music. Alex, you didn't know. I knew that. Hey,
I'm impressed. Rob had no clue. What are you talking about?
Speaker 4 (14:38):
I know, Sister Sledge.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
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Speaker 2 (14:46):
That's where I live. Look at you anyway?
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox you'll turn the
way in mc dermott or Allen?
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Who's head should roll? So to speak? If the Bills
don't make the playoffs?
Speaker 4 (14:59):
All right, let's start with Ed in Vegas. You're on
the couple of Fox Sportuato. What's up Ed?
Speaker 7 (15:05):
Any good eathing? Guys say, I'm gonna put this on
Josh Allen because you know what these quarterbacks?
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Wow?
Speaker 7 (15:11):
You know, if you're gonna get that kind of money,
you gotta be. You're the CEO. You're running the company
out there. And if it wasn't for the running game
coming back the way it did, we wouldn't even be
talking about these guys being in the playoffs, all right.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
So let me keep him on the line. You're right,
I mean Allen's only average, believe it or not, one
hundred and eighty three yards, but he's got six win
street right. I Mean, here's what I want to ask you, though,
what would you do it? Like they lose this game,
they don't make the playoffs? Are you sticking with McDermott.
Obviously you're sticking with Alan, So what what changes would
(15:46):
you make?
Speaker 7 (15:47):
I would I would look at the coaching situation and
you know, I mean, I know the harball rumors are
buzzing around right now and stuff. But a guy like
Josh Allen, he's still young, he's still talented, but he's
just he just has a tendency to rise when he
really needs to rise.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
No, Look, he played some bad football at times. Rob
just brought up the New England, I mean.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
The Jets law.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
That was a bad loss, terrible.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
No doubt he got to get some blame. But I'm
sticking with him, That's all I'm saying. All Right, Chili,
Tim Chris in Atlanta, Tim, you're on the happy Founder's
Day Man Sports Radio, what's up?
Speaker 8 (16:23):
Hey, what's up? Happy J five?
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Chris Yeah, man going yes, Happy Founders and all the
Kappas out there, Cappae turn out.
Speaker 8 (16:32):
Most definitely, most definitely. I'm good.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
How are you?
Speaker 9 (16:37):
I'm good.
Speaker 8 (16:37):
You know how I feel about the judge head and
the bills, But in this case, I gotta go with
the dummy because ever since that playoff lost last year,
there was something in that building with Stefan Diggs and manifested.
He never corrected it. They never got the straight and
I think it just carried over into the season.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Do you remember he was He made a big deal
out of it one day and then the next day
it was no big deal.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
You remember that exactly.
Speaker 8 (17:04):
And I think that's part of the problem. I think
he just never straightened that out. He never fixed it,
whatever it is. And I think he's still hanging around
in that locker room and he don't address those things.
You know what happened. So I put the blame on him.
He's the head of it. He never fixed that problem,
and I think he just hurt.
Speaker 7 (17:19):
That team all the way running.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
No doubt. Appreciate the call, Tim, Thank the call man,
Happy New year. David in Texas. You're on the couple
of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, David?
Speaker 9 (17:30):
How you doing? Man?
Speaker 2 (17:30):
So good?
Speaker 8 (17:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (17:32):
I want to say this old Josh Allham because I
don't know what y'all see. But Josh is not that acher.
He has the big ball. He reminds me a lot
of Joe Flacko run the ball, and he throw what
he needed to, but not what he walks to because
he thought he's interceptions. Phone that guy. He had a
running back that went to the Texas. He's averaging like
one hundred and fifty yards a game. Then he's not
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a bad back. Those backs of back. Yeah, they are
doing everything around to trying to fix this thing instead
of the real reason.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Is okay, okay, hold up Joe Flacco.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Yeah, you mean Joe Fla when he made the run
to the super Bowl because Joe Fla, God blessed him.
Joe Flacco was never as good as Josh Allen other
than that that running the playoffs.
Speaker 9 (18:22):
He can't run like Josh. And what I was told,
we're always told that you want your quarterback to be
a quarterback and not running. He want you want to throw.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Well, the MVP of the league about to be a
running quarterback?
Speaker 9 (18:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (18:36):
Yeah, Now can we stop using that quarterback?
Speaker 2 (18:40):
What is that? I mean?
Speaker 4 (18:41):
We can we stop? Did he say that quarterback? We've
heard that a couple of times. People get in trouble
when they say that nowadays. Okay, sive situation, be quiet,
rob But no, all right, thanks for the call, Billy
and Florida. You're in the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio.
What's up, Billy?
Speaker 9 (18:58):
What's up?
Speaker 10 (18:59):
Gentlemen? Always enjoy your show. Thanks for having me back on.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Thank you, buddy.
Speaker 10 (19:04):
In terms of the Bills, I'm definitely putting this or
on on Sean McDermott. I mean, you make four straight
playoff runs, you lose to the Texans, the Chiefs twice,
and the Bengals, and those are all being key games
that you're choking in alone in terms of play calling.
And when we evaluate the season, six losses coming in
all six of those losses interesting enough, in the final
(19:25):
quarter of play the Bills have either given up a
key drive due to a turnover being a fumble, or
they've given up a score on the defensive side to
ultimately decide the game. So we also got to remember
the von Miller situation going on. They forced Ken Dorsey
out halfway through the year as a fall guy. A
lot of bad going on that did.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
I mean the Dorsey I'm not saying it was all
on him, but that actually proved to be a good
move for whatever reason, whether it was his thought or not.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
They've started winning since then. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
Joey in Honolulu, you're on the odd couple of Fox Sports.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Waiter, what up, Joey?
Speaker 11 (20:03):
Hey, what's going on?
Speaker 9 (20:04):
Guys?
Speaker 4 (20:05):
Thank you buddy.
Speaker 11 (20:07):
Yeah, Hey, I just want to say I think it's
on Josh Allen. And the thing that bothers me about
the mainstream media is I feel like he always gets
a break for not making mistakes.
Speaker 9 (20:16):
Like, I get it, he's a very.
Speaker 11 (20:18):
Talented quarterback, super athletic, strong arm, huge upside, right, but
let's let's call it what it is, right, I.
Speaker 9 (20:25):
Mean, he makes too many mistakes.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
I think we agree with you on that.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
No, no my helping.
Speaker 11 (20:32):
Yeah, but everybody says, like, oh, Josh Allen's one of
the best quarterbacks in the league. I would say he's
one of the best talents in the league, but he
simply makes too many mistakes. I always tell my buddies
list guys, the Russell Westbrook of the NFL.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Right, you know, actually that's not a bay now.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Now Westbrook is a legend, I mean.
Speaker 11 (20:53):
Is awesome. And that's turnover.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
That's why Josh Allen has a sponsorship with Pillsbury. You
know what, all those turnovers.
Speaker 9 (21:05):
There you go, man, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
You laughed a little bit.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
That made me feel good.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
Joey mine.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Come body in the studio laughed? What rob G? That
was funny? Did anybody laugh? Rob G?
Speaker 1 (21:17):
I chuckled a chuckle and you thought you you were like, oh,
there's there's Pillsbury, there's biscuits somewhere.
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Speaker 1 (21:41):
And Rob we brought this up briefly early on last night.
Nicola Jokic hit a shot thirty nine footer two at
the buzzer to beat was obviously a three pointer to
beat the Golden State Warriors.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
He ended up with thirty four.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Points, ten assists, nine rebounds, thirteen for sixteen shooting and
thirty four points thirty four points on sixteen shots.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Unbelievable. But rob you a.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Little Birdie told me you don't think it was a
good shot.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
What I mean by good shot like great, Oh my god,
I can't believe he made that shot.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
I've seen great shots, because you know, I've covered the
NBA since nineteen eighty seven.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
I've been courtside.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
I've seen guys make shots with the game on the line.
Last night, of course, anytime you can have a walk
off with a shot, it's exciting.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
So I'm not poo pooing that. But that's a free shot.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
He took free. The score was tied, they were going
to overtime regardless. There was no pressure in that. He
just threw it up. It was lucky, it went in,
and it made for a great finish whenever somebody can
walk off a game. But to act like, oh my god,
I never joined like that, or or it was a
pressure pack shot and he nailed it or whatever, all
(23:04):
I'm saying is, don't talk it up more than it is.
With the score tied, Chris, there is no pressure in
that shot. You know you're not gonna lose, and there's
overtime waiting for you. So you just put the shot up.
That's all that was last night.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
But here's what I say on that number one.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Just because there's no pressure on the shot, that doesn't
mean it's not a great shot. I mean, most of
the game there's no quote unquote pressure, at least that
kind of pressure. But we have great plays throughout an
NBA game forty eight minutes. So I don't get that.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
I mean, and I.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Don't know who said it was like the best shot
in NBA history. I mean, I don't know what you're
talking about. Don't overtalk it. It was if you It
was an exciting play and an exciting shot. That's all
that was being said about it. And it was as
a freebee to a great It's a freebe.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
That's all I'm saying. It's a freebe. The scores tied,
just throw the ball up if it goes Wow, went in,
all right. But most people can't do that. Most people
wouldn't do that.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
It was like the fourth shot, Rob Jon, it was
like the fourth I don't think we had the number,
but I heard him on the telecast say something like
it was the fourth shot that deep at the buzzer
or something like that. What it was last a few
decades or something something. I don't have the exact thing,
so I wouln't want to go too far with that.
(24:28):
But it was a great shot, and and he he
hit shots like that.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
That's the thing.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Remember the Lakers last year. I know Rob g does
when he hit it over Anthony Davis. He can hit
three pointers. And that's one of the unique things about
him that that makes him so great is that he
he can score from anywhere on the floor. And Rob
here's the interesting thing about Jokic too, Are you tremendous?
Speaker 2 (24:55):
I mean, you know, I'm all in on him.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
I'm just saying that when it comes to pressure packed shots,
I just think when the score is tied, it's a
little different then when the game is on.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
And I don't think that that if you're diferentiating between
what's a bigger shot or what's a more pressurized shot
when you're down or when you're tied, there's no question
it's when you're down.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Chris, I'm gonna lose.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
The greatest shot I ever saw, Seriously, the greatest shot
was a Michael Jordan shot against the Calves in Game
five of that playoff series. I was sitting courtside. And
that was for the series, not just not just for
the game. Yeah, I mean that was the Cams. You're right,
that could have win to win the championship. I mean
that was but I was taking nothing away from Mike.
(25:45):
That was a sixteen footer, right, But that was But
that was with the series on the line, Like the
Calves were the better team or have played better, they
should have won that. They would have hied see Chris,
they should have won that series. And Michael, it was
just there was only one guy, Chris who could make
that shot, and somehow he still got the ball to
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this day. And and and I think, uh, the late
David Stern who had moved the writers Chris from upstairs
down the court side. I'm sitting next to Cliff Brown
from the New York Times upstairs. No moved us downstairs?
Speaker 1 (26:21):
No, when because when I started covering the league, yeah,
we were upset that up No. No, when I started
covering the league in ninety five, we were downstairs.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
No, that's what I'm saying. He moved us save he
moved They.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Used to be like what early eighties, Yeah, they were upstairs, stairs,
and then we got moved down like I can remember
covering Chris Chicago Bulls games during the Jordan when we
were in the.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
Hockey press box upstairs, you know what I.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Mean, And then I thought they had always been down
now on the floor, and Stern was a big part
of that.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
He wanted the writers to hear what was going on,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
It was great.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
I always say that I give him credit for that
was awesome. We're right there in the middle of the
press table. But Rob jokicch in his last four games.
Rob is thirty nine for forty four. He's missed five
shots in his last four games.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
That's the guy nobody wanted to be the MVP last year.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
I mean, this dude is phenomenal.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Only guy with a four game streak of being more accurate,
if you will, is Wilt Chamberlain, who did it twice.
But think about this, Rob, Will was taking shots right
at the rim right now. Yo, kicch In fairness, he's
only taken four to three pointers in his last four games,
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and he's hit all four of them.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
But I love like he's not forcing it right. He
does feel he doesn't feel compelled that he hash to Chris,
because that's the game that's out there today. Right, he
just was like, I'm gonna take the shots that I
can make and that are available to me. And I
love that.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
How how high?
Speaker 1 (28:03):
And this will This will be a topic we'll explore
later on, maybe maybe even after the playoffs or something.
But I would just won. I think the question wrong.
I had him after he won that championship last year
as the seventh best center ever and I think it
was obviously the top four in whatever order, but Kareem Shaq,
(28:28):
Russell Will and then Elijah Wan and Moses Malone and
then I had him seventh. Jokic, I don't know if
you agree with that, But how high do you think
this guy.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Could eventually go? I don't know that he'll go any
higher than those guys, Like I.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
Don't know if he if he if he keeps winning,
Chris and and that's really it, Like I don't know.
If Denver runs off three championships in the row, would
you take it?
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Would you look differently he.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Wins, If he wins, he has he moves ahead of Moses.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Ana King, Right, That's what I mean, Like like that,
there's no doubt about it.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
That's how he could move.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Yeah, I agree, it's gonna come down to his winning because.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
The numbers are gonna be ridiculous, right, I mean, we've
never seen a big man. I know, Will you know
led the league in total assist one year and he
was you know, we've seen great big men who passed,
who were great passers. He's a point center. He really
is a point center. He's he's basically their point guard.
(29:36):
I mean, he's more of a point guard than Jamal Murray.
And so his numbers are going to be crazy across
the board. And you're right, Rob, if he wins, how
you gonna deny him?
Speaker 4 (29:49):
Boy, And the Knicks are destroying the seventy six ers.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Chris Knicks are solid, man.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Yeah, but you know they're a good team. They're not
They're not a championship team. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
But that's the thing that to me, if I were
a Nick fan, I would be frustrated that they're just
in the no man's own, Like they're like not good
enough to think that they're gonna make surprise somebody win something.
And they're not bad, so they're not going to get
a top pick, so they're kind of in the middle.
They're entertaining a little bit. They win some games you
think that, oh, that's a great win for them on
(30:22):
the road, you know what I mean, you feel good
about it? Absolutely right, they're like they're in a bad spot.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
And when I look at a team like that, Rob
and Detroit had more talent. I'm talking about the two
thousand and four Pistons. Chauncey Billis was his high lottery pick,
Rashid Wallace high lottery pick. Rip Hamilton was first round
pick probably a lottery I don't know off the top
of my head. And obviously Ben Wallace was just a
(30:49):
self made man. But so they had more talent. Rob,
but I think it. Tims is a good coach.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
But for the.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Knicks as they currently and kind of as they have
been for a long time, they're gonna need a coach
like that Larry bro that just can get every single
thing out of a group of really good players but
not superstars, right, you know, that's really the only way
they have a chance as they're currently.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
And you know, that's a good thing. We're looking at
it that the Pistons, they were like that, they were
good whatever, but then they got the right coach, and
boy did they make the best of it. And then
they to me, what always made I think the Pistons
franchise and fans feel better, Chris, was that they went
back to the finals the next year. It wasn't just
a fluke like they went back the next year. They
(31:39):
didn't win, they lost in seven games. But that was
a really good team. Yeah, they were. I gotta be honest.
That was a boring finals. But it was good that
they got back. Yeah, wasn't. Yeah that was a seventh game, right,
it was. It was a seven games. It ended up
being good because it was close. Yeah, it ended up
being exciting because it was so close.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
But yeah, and Rashid, I mean they might have won
too straight, rob And was it Rachid, Yeah, Rashi left
Robert Rio opens.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Yeah, yeah, he.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
Went he went to double gerob Robert Orio. But and
they said to him before, do not leave Robert Rori,
no matter what. And they he thought he had Genobili
sealed off and Chris I was sitting close to that,
and he went to double them and he just bounced
the ball right between his legs or whatever it was,
(32:25):
you know, behind his back, went right to or he
turned around and terrible, terrible.
Speaker 11 (32:30):
All right.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
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Speaker 4 (32:39):
Exactly every Monday.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
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a little.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Fun on a date that might not be that fun
for some coaches.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Black Monday around the corner, Rob G come on, hop
on the mic. He's gonna name some coaches, Rob, and
you and I have to say yay or nay as
to whether or not.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
They should be back next year.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Or you know, just some of them. It'll be depending
on what happens this weekend. But we can talk about that,
all right.
Speaker 12 (33:27):
Let's get at it, ROBERI nothing better than poking fun
at guys who might lose their job. Hit the music, Alex.
That's right. Monday about that.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
Is upon us, Rob.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Every Monday is Black Monday.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
That's right, Every Monday is Black Monday.
Speaker 12 (33:43):
Three teams already have vacancies right now, Panthers, Raiders, Chargers.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Who will be next?
Speaker 12 (33:47):
I'm gonna go down the list on who I think
most likely to least likely. So let's get started. Ron
rivera with the commanders, Rob Monday. Is he the coach?
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (33:57):
Or nay?
Speaker 7 (33:58):
Nay?
Speaker 4 (33:58):
He will not and ot be the coach.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
I agree with Rob's look. Ron rivera.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Great man by everybody's you know account, But no, he
won't be the coach.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
Rob g If I say, audios, is that racist?
Speaker 12 (34:13):
No, that's fine. I'll allow it today. Okay, we're doing
a Black Monday segment. I'd be disingenuous if I took
offense to that.
Speaker 9 (34:21):
All right.
Speaker 12 (34:22):
Number two Bill Belichick, coach of the New England Patriots.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
Christ Is he the coach on Monday?
Speaker 12 (34:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (34:28):
Your name?
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Well, he will be on Monday, I think. But I
think eventually he'll be out of there. I don't see
it as a firing. I think a mutual party of
the ways or a trade. Again, I stand by, you
can't fire Bill Belichick. You can say we don't want
you to be the GM. He's like, well, I'm I'm
out of here. If that's the case, And then you
work on the trade, But I don't think you'll coach
(34:51):
him next year?
Speaker 2 (34:54):
He will.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
Yeah, he will not be fired on Monday. They will
figure it out, but he No, he will not be
fired on Monday.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
You think he coached them next year.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
I think he coaches them next year. I think that
he growing sent them. He he he gives into what
ownership wants Chris to stay pow wow, all right.
Speaker 12 (35:18):
Next on the list Arthur Smith of the Atlanta Falcons,
Rob Parker. He's coaching on Monday?
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Yeah, or name Arthur Smith? Is he the coach? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (35:29):
He should be fired. He still might make the playoffs.
I don't know that that's a that's a non descript
bad team. They've got a lot of bad games. I
don't know. I just I don't know who they are,
what they're doing, Chris, what they're trying to do there.
If I could upgrade and find somebody else, Arthur Smith,
Arthur Blank, get rid of Arthur Smith.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
They got a lot of talent. I think that just
doesn't hasn't reached his potential. What they don't have is
a quarterback. And it's tough to win with out the quarterback.
But and some might say, look I think Justin Fields
could be there next year, and you would you want
to give Arthur Smith a shot with Justin Fields.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
I hear you on that. However, if I'm them, I'm.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Saying give me Eric being to me and Justin Fields
speaking to Justin Fields.
Speaker 12 (36:16):
Matt Eberflus with the Bears, Chris, Yeah, you're nazy there
on Monday?
Speaker 1 (36:20):
Oh gosh, well, I think he's definitely there Monday, whether
or not he should be.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
No, he's out on Monday.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
You think he's out on Monday. They've had a nice
little stretch. They're gonna be when the sea. Yeah, they
beat the Packers. Haven't beat the Packers in Green Bay
since twenty eighteen, maybe they I know.
Speaker 4 (36:38):
No, Aaron Rodgers there and he owned the bed.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Yeah, let's John there to day mayon Rodgers.
Speaker 12 (36:43):
All right, last one, last two quickly robbed. Mike Rabel
and the Titans. He's there on Monday.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
There on Monday. Yes, he's there on Monday.
Speaker 12 (36:50):
Yeah, they're not firing all right, last morning and the
hour the way we started it. Sean McDermott and the
Buffalo Bills, Chris, is he there on Monday?
Speaker 2 (36:58):
He's there Monday? Because I think they're gonna beat me.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
I say he's out after they lose a heartbreaker.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Wow, okay they're going wide left again, Roy, Yes, wide left.
All right, there you have it, rob G.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Nice job Monday. I'm just gonna leave it at I
was gonna say something, but.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
I don't say keep the show. It's the weekend.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Can I have a job? Getired? You know? Rob G?
Speaker 4 (37:28):
What's what was the over under? How many years before
I got fired? Two and a half.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
But you've lasted ten years before?
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Right right at a race? Yes, you had a ten
year radio show. Yes, I had a ten at three
different stations. Was it the same show, same show, but
three different stations, and.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Now every one of them was called the couple.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
No,