May 24, 2024 • 41 mins
Chris Broussard & Rob Parker talk about Shohei Ohtani and state that he should stop pitching and focus on hitting for the rest of his career.
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Speaker 3 (00:30):
It is The Eye Couple. I'm Chris E's Rob.
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gonna uh go. Let's talk a little base ball. I
know you're excited about this. When I saw this story,
I was like, you know, let me throw my man
a bone. We know how much you love baseball. We
don't talk as much baseball as you probably would like.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
And we talked more baseball.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
We talk more than most we do shows, but we
still don't talk a lot. But this story, Rob, It
was an interesting story in ESPN.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
I don't know if you saw it. It came out a
few days ago.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
The title is is shohey o'tany too good of a
hitter to pitch like Babe Ruth?
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Question mark? And there's an interesting quote, Rob. We know
that Babe Ruth.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
When he was pitching full time, he was not hitting
the fifty forty to fifty and sixty.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Home runs in a season.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
He only and there was one season, Rob where he really,
you know, pitched. His last year pitching full time was
also his best year as a hitter while pitching, but it.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Was nineteen nineteen.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
He had twenty nine home runs led the league and
one hundred and thirteen RBI, which also led the league,
hit three twenty two and then after that they were
basically done with him pitching. He threw a few more
games over the next couple of years, but basically transitioned
to being a full time hitter. And here was a quote,
Rob that Babe Ruth said kind of about why he
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made that transition.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Here's what he said. I don't think a man can
pitch in.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
His regular turn and play every other game at some
other position and keep that pace year after year he said,
I can do it this season, all right, and not
feel it for I'm young and strong and don't mind
the work. But I wouldn't guarantee to do it for
many seasons.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
And his last year when he did that, Robbie was
twenty four. Okay, now show hey, o Tani.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Obviously this year Rob is not hitting, I'm sorry, not
pitching right. And he's twenty nine years old and he's
hitting a career high rob three forty eight, and he's
leading the league and slugging ops ops plus total basis.
Although his slug while his batting averages up. He had
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three h four last year. His slugging and ops are
down but slightly. But you know, he led the league
last year. He's leading it this year, but they're down
a little bit. So I want to throw it out
to you, Rob, he's hitting three forty eight league high.
It's gonna be up there at home runs. He got
thirteen right now, what are your thoughts on that? Do
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you think like maybe they should transition him to strictly
a battery, you know, and field player.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
It's all fair and for a true disclosure, we need
to say that that quote that you read from Babe Ruth. Yep,
that came from sound that Steve di Seger got out
a game. So I just want to make sure that
everybody goes Steve. Is he listening? Steve?
Speaker 3 (04:01):
What is calling you old?
Speaker 4 (04:03):
You're old? Although it's Steve than you, I know he
might be young. But anyway, No, this is all logical, Chris,
because when he pitches, that means there's two days really
right where he's not pitting, that's.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Two days if they done so obviously not hit him
when he's pitches.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Do they sit him the next game or the game tour?
Speaker 4 (04:25):
I think it's the game. I think it's the game before.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Yeah, I would think probably the game before to get ready,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
So so you're you're you're missing a unbelievable bat for
two days. So is that really what you want to do?
And make him where he's only getting up five times?
It's it's a real argument, it really is. I say this, Chris.
I think it's simple. You allow him to do both
as long as he can where he's at that level
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on both ends, as soon as the pitching, and he's
just just the starter, not an elite starter.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
At some point, do.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
You know what I mean, because Chris, how do you
win championships in Major league based pitcher hitching? Right? So,
so if he's an elite pitcher, you can't give that up,
you really And I get the hitting part. The Dodgers
are loaded, their lineup loaded. Yeah, I agree, does that
makes sense?
Speaker 1 (05:23):
I totally agree, Like as long as because he is better,
a better pitcher than Babe Ruth was right. You know,
Babeer is like a solid, you know, solid pitcher. But
oh Tany is an elite pitcher. He's not the best
in the league.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
He's not the best. He's not a Garret Cole or
anything like that.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
He's not pitcher, right, He's an elite level, like an
all star caliber pitcher, right, And like you said, that's
what you need to win championships, Rob, I would argue,
especially on the Dodgers, and I don't mean for his
whole career, because we obviously anytime you have a fantastic hitter,
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you want to see him to hit right, right, But
like say, for next season, as stacked as the Dodgers are,
if I was forced to choose one or the other,
you can make an argument you choose pitching like that
he should pitch.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Now, he probably wouldn't want to do that.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
No, but I'm just saying that lineup is so stacked,
as you said that they could afford to miss his back,
but they need pitching, and if he's gonna do that
at an elite level, I would say if I had
to choose one.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Thankfully you don't.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
But I would pitch him next year if I had
to only choose one. But overall, I'm with you in
that you let him do both. He'll eventually, you would
think he'll eventually, you know.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
And you say, he's twenty nine, okay, like you can't
keep it up and at some point you'll look at
it and maybe the pitching will fall off if he
becomes like and you know, and maybe how about this,
Chris just as a as a as A slipped this
in as far as a little twist to the whole
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storyline you have, what if you make him a closer,
you know what I mean, like so that you could
still utilize his arm, not all the time, like just
to I just need you to get three outs in
the ninth inning. That's all I need to do.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Is he throw.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
He throws pretty hard. I mean, he's not blowing everybody. Yeah,
he's a hard throw strike, he's a strikeout picture.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Because my only concern with that.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
I like what you're saying, but my only concern would
be sometimes there are some closers, Rob, you know, they
come in and it's just heat, right, that's there. They're
just throwing heat, and I wonder what type of impact
that might have on him. Maybe it would be fine,
but you know what I mean, if he's just basically
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throwing it as hard as he can every time up there, Yeah,
you remember that effect is hitting or I mean, I
don't know if that hurts you more than pitching six innings.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
And the other thing too, is that you're not winning
all the time. For the close of the pitch every night,
you know what I mean, Like like the games you're
you're out of the game. He's not gonna pitch those nights.
If he pitches the knife of you know it, pitch
a couple and it's usually get just three outs, so
he can pitch a few days in a row and
then and then they go on a three game losing
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street Chris, where he's not pitching. You you would cover
you're just hitting. Worried about that. I'm just saying, not
the totally lose, not the totally losing arm. He has
a live arm.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
I would think that that actually is what will happen Rob,
Like once he's I don't know what, maybe he'll pitch
as a starter for three more years and then start
two years right, you start to see the decline, then
he becomes a closer. What would really be stunning. And look,
his whole career so far has been stunning. But there
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there are a lot the greats Rob the absolute great
pictures they do last you know what I mean, Verlander,
and you know they're gonna old now, right, So I
could he remain I mean, it'd be shocking if at
thirty five and thirty six he still was this level
of picture.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
But here, look at this John Smoltz. Smolti's in the
Hall of Fame. Chris was a starter, lights out and
then got hurt. You remember he came back because a
closer and became an elite closer like like you can do.
And that was because of injury. But I'm saying you
could transition.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Into the closer idea. I think it makes all the
sense in the world. And I would imagine that that's
something they would look at. You know, they also could
look at relief, middle relief or something, right, but I
think you, unless you already had a great closer, you
would probably look to see if he could be the
closer first.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
He's got to be a closer or star like middle relief.
You're not really Yeah, why not? Because because you want
to keep him in the game and is at bats
and and if you're pitching middle relief, you know what
I mean, it's either got to be start the game,
Chris pitch six to seven in is great, or you're
winning the game because you put him in and he
got the final three outs. But no middle relief, it
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would have to be one of those two.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
I thought, Robie, we talked about it that I felt
and they got a long way to go, but I
felt like he should be even better at the plate
this year now that he's not pitching. You know, it
just makes common sense. I mean, that's why guys don't
do both. For one reason is because to be a
great pitcher you have to focus on it full time.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Or to be a great batter, same thing.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
And I felt like, now that he doesn't have to
split his time, he's gonna be phenomenal. And Rob he's
hitting three forty eight with thirteen dingers.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
And now I'll say.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
I saw two things. I think he's the only one
on Pace Chris for forty forty. He's on Pace forty
home runs, forty steals. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know.
If you saw last night, did you see the practical
the price they pulled on him? Did you see it? No,
he was getting up to back, getting ready in the
dugout to go to the you know, get ready for
his at bat, and they had somebody put on a
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helmet like they were gonna pinch it for him.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Chris.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
It's priceless video. Like he's like, well, how did he respond?
Because he was like like he was like you know,
like right right right. They're like, oh no, so and So.
They're like so and so is gonna hit and he's
like like he's just like as a puzzle, like I'm
not hitting. And then and then they all start laughing,
and then it's this classic video if you ever seen it.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
I tell you one thing, And you know, I've said
he's the best baseball player I've ever seen, and I
guess I'm gonna be honest. I'm not gonna be a hypocrite.
I guess this falls Rob into that thinking.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
That some have.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
And we had a caller said last night that there's
a difference between best and greatest because obviously he's not
the goat.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Guys do a lot more. But he's the best baseball
player I've.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
Seen, no we've ever seen this at this level on
the lead pitcher and an lead hitter. Like that's why
all the baseball players, Chris and you notice went crazy.
You remember they were ready to give him the MVP
over Aaron Judge a couple of years ago. You remember
that CC Sabbathi And I'm like, basically, JD. Martinez, he
should get it every year, the MVP every year, blah
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blah blah. And he hasn't won it every year. And
I get the reason why Judge had a historic year
that year. Chris, I thought he was clearly the MVP.
And if you remember, only two voters voted for Otani,
they both covered the Angels that didn't look good.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Yeah, he's won two of the last three. But what
I will say, Rob is let's say he stopped. Let's
say he doesn't pitch anymore, and he's just a hitter.
That goat idea, unless he becomes you know what I mean,
like Barry Bonds in terms of homers or hits, you know,
three thirty five or whatever in that conversation.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Because he could do both, right, I mean, unless he
became you know, but.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Not at this point his historic hit it no right totally,
like forty four home runs, three hundred, three oh five
whatever's not gonna get you that goat status.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
So I agree he'd have to.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Do both for a significant amount of time unless it's
hitting just continues to get.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
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Yeah A seven nine or Fox. You're turned away in
on show? Hey, O, Tany is he too good of
a hitter? He's hitting three forty eight leading the league.
Uh to go back to pitching your thoughts?
Speaker 4 (15:08):
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Speaker 6 (15:19):
My guys, this is my favorite radio show, because who
else is talking baseball like you guys, honestly nobody, nobody
as much as your man. I love it, Man, you
gotta do it when you got Rob Parker on the show,
right anyway, I mean I think he is. I mean,
obviously I'm loving at three forty eight, but like, man,
we want to see him do both teams. That's why
he's Otani. So I don't think he should ever stop
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unless it's like really detrimental to itself, as like another
to be an injury that obviously stops. But as long
as he can do it, then do it. Maybe do
what Chris say later on, like like maybe make him
just a closer and the hit it. But like, but
he's o Tani for a reason, and we want to
see him make the magic. He got a chance to
do something nobody else has ever done since the Baby Ruth.
I'm like, please do and then you know what at him?
Speaker 4 (16:01):
I mean, your point is, well, taking Chris, he's the unicorn.
The Dodgers are like the Beatles going around major League Baseball.
All his games are sold out and we're close to
it and people want to watch him, you know, play,
and obviously he's not pitching this year, but just to
see him and this seven hundred million dollar guy and
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what he's accomplished so far in baseball, and then he's
he's attached to one of the biggest brands, you know,
sports wise, the Dodgers. He's got all that stuff. Thanks
for the car Adam appreciate it. Eight seven, seven ninety
nine off Fox. It's interesting, though, Chris, that even with
all that, the Dodgers don't have the best record right
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this year. The Phillies are the best team in the
National League. You always got the Braves always lurking. You know,
they've had some injuries, but they got Chris Sale who's
been fantastic for them, So they're gonna be in the
mix because they have a young team with pitching. So
you got those teams up, you know, up against the Dodgers,
and in the American League you got the Yankees who
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have the best record that's without Garrett Cole Chris, which
is incredible. I think I mentioned it yesterday.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
He always under three right, right, No, it's unbelievable. And yeah,
a lot of these things and this is what Rob
I mean, we've talked about it before. Baseball of the
three major sports, is the most unpredictable. I mean, you
team doesn't always win, no, no, And you would not
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have thought that after they lost Garrett Cole that the
Yankees would be I mean they are pitching. Their pitching
numbers are incredible and as good as the hitting is,
and that's what's carrying them right large part of it.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
Yeah, they have thought that. No, not at all, not
when you lose your ace. Here we are almost in
the June, so he missed the first two months. He's
he's on his way back. I think he's gonna be
coming back soon, Chris. But your first two months and
you still have the best record in the league without him.
I mean that's that's like, uh, you know, get making
a trade or blockbuster, you know, and adding talent of
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that silk. So that'll be interesting to see how that
plays out. But the Dodgers have their hands full and
it ain't automatic, Chris, despite the lineup, despite what they have,
the Dodgers have been good for years, for years. He
got that one championship to show for.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
It, right, and they got the second best record in
the National League. But it's about the fourth best record
or so in the league. The whole league. But yeah,
the Phillies, Rob, I mean they we've talked about it before,
Bryce Harper and uh remember Washington won that championship right
after he left, right, and so you know.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
So people thought like, right, people thought, well they won
the they won. You know, Bryce left, they won without him,
and he's not what he what people think. Two MVPs later,
Chris A Trip to the World. You remember that was
the year that they fired Joe Girardi. You remember Rob
Thompson became the manager and they caught fire. And last
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year we thought they were going to until the upstart
Diamondbacks upset them. But they are in the mix. They've been.
They have a great start the last two years. They've
had slow starts in the beginning of the year, and
this year they look like they're a world beater. So
I don't ask for it.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Look, if there's a guy, I mean, there are a
lot of guys you'd like to see get a ring,
but Bryce Harper, Rob.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
I mean, he's done. You know.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
He came in very valley hooed and touted it gonna
be the next great thing, and he's lived up to
He's had a couple down years, but overall, he's clearly
lived up to it and been one of the greatest players.
And you know, during his era, got the two MVPs.
As you said, if he gets a championship, and I
know we don't really measure baseball like that, you know,
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like Barry Bonds, right, it doesn't really detract from him
that he doesn't have a championship.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
But if Bryce could get one.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Especially Rob with what we said with Washington win it
the year he left for more money to go to Philly,
then I think that would really cap I mean, he's
that far from done. Would be like check, you know,
check really that last thing, right.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
And it would justify the thirteen year contract and all
that the Phillies did. He embraced the city, Chris. He
embodies that city, gritty, tough nose, you know, Philadelphia. They
love him down there. They packed the ballpark. I mean,
he's lived up to it because he was a sensation
on YouTube, remember out of Las Vegas hitting all those
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home runs and all that, and they were like this
guy Bryce Harper is the next Strawberry ice Cream.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Well, and we talked about it, rob.
Speaker 7 (20:49):
It.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
You know, it's in a lot of sports.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
You know, a guy that's a prodigy doesn't live up
to it, but I think again, it probably happens more
often in baseball.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Right, He's lived up to it, you know.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
He is one of those those high school prodigies that
did live up to the billing.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
And that's good to see.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Did you see the other day when he went to
to ask this he like, there was a fan. I
don't remember what it was, what type of promotion it was,
but he went with.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
A fan, a high school kid, to ask this girl
to the prome and the kid one.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
I think he asked her for the kid and then
she gives Bryce Harper a hug, like I think before she.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
Hugged again, I'm like, what about? What about? How am
I gonna compete with that? With Bryce Harper? But nah?
Speaker 1 (21:44):
And what he talked about, Remember, we talked about bringing
more fun into the game and letting the player's personalities
come out and all of that, and I think baseball
has done that.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Better over the last few years.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
They have.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Personalities, you know.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
So all right, it is the Eye couple. Chris and Rob.
We talked about it about to start Dallas and Minnesota
pretty soon.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
But we want to talk a little w NBA very.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Interested, Rob Caitlyn Clark and Alijah Boston Indiana Fever Stars,
Boston Rookie of the Year last year. Caitlyn Clark. We
all know what she's done. But their team is zero
to five and the fans are letting them hear it
and the coach not a fan of it. We'll hear
from the coach and then talk about it next, but
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first Steve de Seger with the update.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
Steve, see Steve, look, you're doing WNBA updates and we
got WNBA topics. The world has flipped.
Speaker 8 (22:42):
That is the lone WNBA game tonights. It's Indiana at
LA and they are expecting a big crowd for that as.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
Well.
Speaker 8 (22:51):
They called it like eighteen thousand plus, so that would
be close to a sellout at Well what used to
be known is still called by locals. Staple Center in
downtown All As far as MLB, Detroit has lost five
in a row, but the Tigers are up six nothing
going to the seventh inning against the Toronto Blue Jays
and the Pirates lead the Braves ten nothing in the
top of the seventh inning. Great start in DC for
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McKenzie Gore. Nationals lead the Mariners five to one. In
the bottom of the seventh inning, Gore with eight strikeouts
in seven frames of work. As for the Kansas City Royals,
they've won six in a row and they're winning again tonight,
six to one at Tampa Bay in the top of
the seventh. Dodgers were down early but now lead five
to three at Cincinnati in the top of the fifth,
Brewers lead at Boston three to one. In the top
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of the fifth, Boston working on a four game winning streak.
It's the Twins over the Rangers three to two in
the top of the fifth, Rangers trying to end a
four game losing streak, and the Orioles at White Sox.
Game is underway and scoreless in the first. You mentioned Philadelphia,
They're starting in a couple minutes. They're at Colorado tonight.
They've won six in a row, and the Phillies, in fact,
have won twenty nine of their last thirty five games.
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Game two of the NBA's West Five Final starts in
a few minutes, with Dallas at Minnesota. Mavericks lead the
series one game to none. Game three will be at
Dallas on Sunday night. Indiana's Tyres Haliburton is questionable for
tomorrow against Boston due to a sore hamstring in the
NHL's East Final and early goal for the Rangers now
thirteen and a half minutes to go first period in
New York, top seeded Rangers leading Florida one nothing. After
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the Florida Panthers did get the opening game in this
best of seven series, the Winnipeg Jets promoted scart Arneil
to head coach. He's a former Rangers assistant. Still without
a head coach in the NHL. San Jose and Seattle,
Davis Riley leads by three strokes at Colonial play was
suspended by bad weather. Scottie Scheffler shot sixty five to
move up to the top twenty. NASCAR's Coca Cola six
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hundred is this Sunday Night on Fox TV from Charlotte.
The UFL football season continues Sunday on Fox TV before
the Race the next to last weekend of that league's
regular season their conference finals June eighth.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
Back to you, all right, thank you, Steve.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
It's the ah couple, Christ and Robb from the tire
rack dot Com Studios. As we said, Rob the Indiana
Fever despite having Caitlin Clark the number one pick and
Aliah Boston, last year's rookie of the Year, are O
and five. Still early, they've lost two of the best
teams in the league account for four of their losses,
so I don't think it's as bad as it may look.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
And Clark is starting to play better.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
And they're losing losses, but they're playing better, right.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
But their coach, Uh Christy Sides came out to talk
Rob about the criticism I guess from fans and media and.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
All of that.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
Of that was Nick Hamilton. I've got Nick Hamilton right
interviewing her.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
I don't I don't know.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
Maybe do we have the sound.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
Though, Patrick, we don't have any sound.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
We don't have any sound. All right, here's what she said,
the old Rob. It's really sad, isn't it. This is
the game of basketball, and she's young. Here's a lot
of pressure going into a player like Boston and Leah
Boston who had such a successful first season. I think
she said more, I don't let's see, okay here it is.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
We all need a little a little grace with what's
going on.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
It takes time to build a team. But she was
I wish we had that sound because I can't find a.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
Full full quote earlier.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Yeah, so she was basically saying Rob that you know,
it's just unfair the way the fans are going at
those two. They're showing up to work, you know, every
day and giving it they're all and they shouldn't be,
you know, treated like that. Now, Rob quickly, and I
know you want to go off or just say your piece,
(27:03):
but we have no evidence that I know of of
Obviously we've said Rob, there are some things that should
be off limits, if it's racial criticism, racial expletives, or
in this case gender ones, Rob, you know, if they're
calling them the B words and stuff like that. But
(27:24):
we don't know that that's any of as far as
we know. It might just be stuffed they might be
getting on social media, which could be really bad. But
also Rob, just the criticism we've heard, maybe from other
players or just fans booing them, or you not all
that you're.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Supposed to be better Boston, what happened to you from
last you know.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
It might be just jeers like that. So until we
see if there's some evidence of it really getting out
of hand, I would assume Rob is just the typical
booing and criticism that comes with being a professional athlete.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
What I didn't like, Chris was the belly aching by
the coach. You're owing five people are vested, Chris. People
that that's all. You can't be mad at fans that
if you're a fan base, do you want to be
on five?
Speaker 3 (28:16):
They were expecting a huge year.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
Yes, and and the whole notion like you're trying. Everybody's trying.
What you're telling me that teams don't try. The Pistons
didn't try last year, Chris, when they lost a million games.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
They tried every day every day, Right.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
So we're supposed to cheer him for that.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Come one million in this case thousands they're getting paid.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
I don't understand people. I don't well, as long as
it's not Chris, as you said, racist, sexist, as long
as it's not that. If I want to boot, go
to the game and boot them because my team is
on five and I want them to play better, and
I want Caitlyn Clark to be the starter that I
thought she was gonna be when I bought my season tickets.
(29:04):
That's what I've done.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
I agree, and Rob, I actually think again, we're we're
assuming there's no racial or sex racist or sexist.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Stuff that they're hearing.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
But Rob, I think it makes the w n B
A look a little bad because all we hear about
is how they want to be the NBA, and they
want to be They want the same treatment, and they
want the same love, and you know, they want the
same popularity and all this is.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
What comes with it.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
Yes, I mean, really, you're Russell Westbrook.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
We know how much he's called out of his name.
All right, how about Lebron James, Rob think he's get
some criticism. I mean, this comes with it, and I
get that they're not probably not.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
Used to it.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
So maybe this is what they want, right, This is
what if you if the W and and we know
it won't get as big as the let's say, for
the sake of argument, it does you're going, I mean,
are you gonna be at a handle? I think you could.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
But I'm just saying every day on daily talk shows,
radio shows like this.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
People talking about you, criticizing you.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Look at Jason Tatum Ron he had thirty six points
the other night, was a plus twenty and people were
killing him.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Yeah, for about and fourth quarter he was great, and overtime.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
He was And this is the whole point that you
just made, and I totally agree. Which one do you want?
Do you want to be irrelevant where no one's talking
about Chris? How many WNBA topics have we done in
six years other than Caitlyn Clark? Okay?
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Sadly probably none?
Speaker 4 (30:45):
No, I don't remember any. Okay, So you could be
that where nobody cares whether you're winning or losing and
you just go play your games in the shadows and
nobody in six thousand people show up, family and friends
and there's no coverage. Or do you want people to
talk about your games and care and want Caitlyn Clark
(31:06):
to play well and want her to have the impact
to turn she goes to the worst team, because what
the best player goes to the worst team to try
to make them better. So if she can make the
Indiana Fever Chris better, then it boosts her up and
makes the league better and then you have more conversation
about your league. That's what people want.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Totally agree, Rob, And look again, maybe they're not used
to it, and they.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
Will get used to it.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
The coach I mean, I would imagine Rob, Kaitlyn Clark
is used to it, but and she not the one complains,
but the coach probably isn't used to it at all.
I mean, you talk about the team that's been hapless
for the last several years, and she probably you know,
they don't expect much there.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
Nobody said anything this year, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
Nobody didn't care. And you're right, and Rob, that's in
every public sphere our show.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
I mean, we could be a show that nobody listens to,
nobody knows the many don't check our stuff on YouTube
and we just we just get paid our nice little
check and nobody cares about our opinions or whatever. Or
you can make some noise and you gotta deal with
some of that noise is gonna.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
Be negative, and we get we get ripped all the time.
But you see all the comments where it's moved enough
people christ for them to care. Like if you don't care,
you don't look, you wouldn't watch the videos, you wouldn't comment,
or if you don't care, or or we're not touching
a needle or moving the needle, I should say so.
(32:40):
So it comes with the territory. It's okay, we're not
all gonna agree with.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
It, right nah, And that's that's the thing. They're going
to have to adjust to. So I agree, I didn't
like hearing it from the coach unless there's something really beyond,
you know, across that crosses the line, and she didn't
say anything like that. And I do think right, like
I said, I don't think it. It's not the whole league,
But obviously anything coming out of Indiana with Caitlin Clark
(33:06):
is gonna be viewed and perceived as representative of the league.
And this makes it look like we're you know, we
don't know what we want. Yeah, we want to be popular,
but we don't want the criticism no, that.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Comes with it.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
If you're gonna be president of the United States, you're
gonna get some criticism. Half the country's not gonna like you,
right despite winning the election. Half the country will probably
be like, I can't stand this count.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
Yeah, So you.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Want to just be a little local position, okay, but
you know, or do you want to be big time?
And so this has comes with the WNBA, at least
trying to grow into being big time.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
All right.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Last night, Rob look, all credit to the Subjects for
that win, but it was strange the way the Pacers
ended that game. We'll get to that next, It's Christian
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Speaker 3 (34:19):
Whoa Mary Mary is in the crates?
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Come on now, well, you and your mom must have
hit you to all this thing. No, you know, listen,
I group listen to like Arab music, air music.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
Yeah, because my mom is from Saddan, so she came
to America like two thousand and one. So what you
know about this? I'm a creat nigger.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
You're doing it.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
We are live from the tie rack dot Com studios.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Rob. I don't know if you saw.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
This at the you know, the game kind of got
out of hand and maybe people weren't watching it closely.
But last night in the fourth quarter, so Boston, you know,
won last night's game against Indiana. Tyrese Halliburton gets hurt
in the second half, third quarter.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
And they are down ninety nine eighty two.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Rob seventeen points with nine and a half minutes left
to play, and Rick Carlisle takes out Pascal Siakam, who
was crushing Boston had twenty eight points on thirteen of
seventeen shooting, and TJ McConnell, who has You know, he's
played well in these playoffs, and with Tyre's Halliburton, now
(35:35):
obviously he's your your top point guard. He takes them
out rob at that point and never puts them back in.
In fact, obviously Halliburton didn't play at all, but the
other two starters, nim Hard and Nie Smith, they only
played the combine four minutes, four and a half minutes,
(35:55):
and that was all by nim Hart, And so he
would end it game rob with people like Ben Shephard.
I don't mean ended the game, but like these guys
played the majority of the fourth quarter, Ben Shepherd, Isaiah Jackson,
Doug McDermott. Here was Carlisle's explanation, because a lot of
(36:15):
people were wondering, man, it looks like you threw into
town here is.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
We weren't.
Speaker 7 (36:22):
We weren't giving up, but it was an opportunity to
get some energetic fresh guys in there to fight you know,
and they did some they did some good things. Are
you know the guys that had played to that point.
You know, Pascal was very tired. You know, Aaron had
four fouls. He was he was tired. I mean, so
that was it.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
And he's saying something about wanting to see, you know,
what Doug McDermott could do and what these guys could do,
like it was a preseason game. Ro Look, chances are
they weren't coming down back down seventeen with nine and
a half minutes left. But Rob, we've seen, like we've
talked about, that's not the insurmountable lead that it used
(37:06):
to be. And they already gave away literally gave away
game one.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
Oh they did right, and then again I don't think
they would have come back.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
But you give it a puncher, you give it a try,
and they really didn't give it a try. Some people
might say, Okay, they're getting ready for Game three. I
kind of get that logic, but I just didn't like it, Rob,
because to me, that's too much time left. And in fact,
Boston kept playing their starters right.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
Pretty much dropped the rest of the fourth quarter. And
so I just think, well, again, being sixteen points right, Well,
sixteen points front fare. Yeah, yeah, so it wasn't like
it was thirty six points. And that's why Boston. I
get it. I'm not gonna kill Rick Carlisle Chris from
the standpoint of once you lose Halliburton and and you
(37:55):
look at it as an opportunity to be able to
get some people some rest so that you can be
ready we come home and get back in this series.
Like if you play those guys during that stretch and
you lose or somebody gets hurt or I'm just people
are gonna be like, why would they still in the game,
Like this game was ohd like like it's a catch
(38:16):
twenty two. But I do understand him saying I need
to save some minutes. I just need to save some
minutes and we need to regroup. We did it before
against the Knicks. We were down oh two, right, they
lost both games at Madison Square, Garden came back won
the two games in Indiana. So so from that standpoint,
(38:39):
I'm not gonna kill them. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
I would have liked to see I get there's a
certain time you can throw in the towel. I would
have liked to see them gone maybe three more minutes
or so, okay, six minutes left, we're down fifteen.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
Six minutes, Dougie Fresher, all.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
Right, I gotta be honest. I don't even I might
go down to four or five minutes, just.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
Because again, let's hit some threes, get some stops, and
you all of a sudden it might be a game.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
I do get what you're saying. They should see.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
I come, only played thirty one minutes, so you give
it your best shot in game three, that's really gonna
be the saion.
Speaker 4 (39:13):
That's your shit. That's that's everything right there. Game three
at home, Chris without your start player.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Yeah, I was look Rick Carlisle and you covered him
in Detroit. He's a really good coach. He's got the
championship in Dallas, was in Detroit when.
Speaker 4 (39:29):
He was with that Pistons team that wound up winning
with Larry Brown.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Yep, and he was good, you know, he got him
the fifty wins and all that. And then he's obviously
been good with Indiana. So he's a very good coach.
But I don't think there's been a good series for him,
you know. I think obviously Game one we talked about
no time out, he didn't call time out with ten
seconds left or instruct the players too. And then he
didn't switch on that last play when Jaylen Brown hits
(39:54):
the three and his team just started turning the ball
over crazy. And then last night the contra over did
he give.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
Up too soon?
Speaker 8 (40:02):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (40:03):
So you know we'll see Rob. They have shown hard,
they've been great at home. I think they're undefeated at
home too, and so and Boston's undefeated on the road.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
So this should be a good game three.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
And you know, you wish Holliburton could play rob, but
I don't think he will be able to. You saw
Ananobi after several dead games missed, tried to come back.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
He couldn't even run. He was scooting.
Speaker 4 (40:27):
Yeah, it doesn't look like, uh yeah, like it's gonna
be good for Indiana. But I think Rick just did
what he thought would be the best to try to
rally the troops and have them ready for game three.
And and you hate y'all, I hear you. If he
could have waited another three or four minutes, Uh, it
probably would have looked even better if they fell behind
by twenty five, you know what I mean. And they didn't.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
Right then you just get him out and look rob
without their point guard. Maybe they go sign Caitlin Clark.
I mean, some people think she could play in the NBA,
so who knows. You're just gonna never let me lift
this one down on you. I'm shocked that you're running
from this date. This is the first take I've ever
seen you run from what You didn't even run from
(41:09):
Tom Brady and he was like three superhowls after you
said he was done. But this when you you, I'll
give you credit, though you admit, Hey, I was wrong,
I was off miss all right, but all right, we
got an hour left.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
Y'all know what to dude, Lock it
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(00:56):
gonna uh go. Let's talk a little base ball. I
know you're excited about this. When I saw this story,
I was like, you know, let me throw my man
a bone. We know how much you love baseball. We
don't talk as much baseball as you probably would like.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
And we talked more baseball.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
We talk more than most we do shows, but we
still don't talk a lot. But this story, Rob, It
was an interesting story in ESPN.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
I don't know if you saw it. It came out a
few days ago.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
The title is is shohey o'tany too good of a
hitter to pitch like Babe Ruth?
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Question mark? And there's an interesting quote, Rob. We know
that Babe Ruth.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
When he was pitching full time, he was not hitting
the fifty forty to fifty and sixty.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Home runs in a season.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
He only and there was one season, Rob where he really,
you know, pitched. His last year pitching full time was
also his best year as a hitter while pitching, but it.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Was nineteen nineteen.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
He had twenty nine home runs led the league and
one hundred and thirteen RBI, which also led the league,
hit three twenty two and then after that they were
basically done with him pitching. He threw a few more
games over the next couple of years, but basically transitioned
to being a full time hitter. And here was a quote,
Rob that Babe Ruth said kind of about why he
(02:28):
made that transition.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Here's what he said. I don't think a man can
pitch in.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
His regular turn and play every other game at some
other position and keep that pace year after year he said,
I can do it this season, all right, and not
feel it for I'm young and strong and don't mind
the work. But I wouldn't guarantee to do it for
many seasons.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
And his last year when he did that, Robbie was
twenty four. Okay, now show hey, o Tani.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Obviously this year Rob is not hitting, I'm sorry, not
pitching right. And he's twenty nine years old and he's
hitting a career high rob three forty eight, and he's
leading the league and slugging ops ops plus total basis.
Although his slug while his batting averages up. He had
(03:20):
three h four last year. His slugging and ops are
down but slightly. But you know, he led the league
last year. He's leading it this year, but they're down
a little bit. So I want to throw it out
to you, Rob, he's hitting three forty eight league high.
It's gonna be up there at home runs. He got
thirteen right now, what are your thoughts on that? Do
(03:40):
you think like maybe they should transition him to strictly
a battery, you know, and field player.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
It's all fair and for a true disclosure, we need
to say that that quote that you read from Babe Ruth. Yep,
that came from sound that Steve di Seger got out
a game. So I just want to make sure that
everybody goes Steve. Is he listening? Steve?
Speaker 3 (04:01):
What is calling you old?
Speaker 4 (04:03):
You're old? Although it's Steve than you, I know he
might be young. But anyway, No, this is all logical, Chris,
because when he pitches, that means there's two days really
right where he's not pitting, that's.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Two days if they done so obviously not hit him
when he's pitches.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Do they sit him the next game or the game tour?
Speaker 4 (04:25):
I think it's the game. I think it's the game before.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Yeah, I would think probably the game before to get ready,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
So so you're you're you're missing a unbelievable bat for
two days. So is that really what you want to do?
And make him where he's only getting up five times?
It's it's a real argument, it really is. I say this, Chris.
I think it's simple. You allow him to do both
as long as he can where he's at that level
(04:55):
on both ends, as soon as the pitching, and he's
just just the starter, not an elite starter.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
At some point, do.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
You know what I mean, because Chris, how do you
win championships in Major league based pitcher hitching? Right? So,
so if he's an elite pitcher, you can't give that up,
you really And I get the hitting part. The Dodgers
are loaded, their lineup loaded. Yeah, I agree, does that
makes sense?
Speaker 1 (05:23):
I totally agree, Like as long as because he is better,
a better pitcher than Babe Ruth was right. You know,
Babeer is like a solid, you know, solid pitcher. But
oh Tany is an elite pitcher. He's not the best
in the league.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
He's not the best. He's not a Garret Cole or
anything like that.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
He's not pitcher, right, He's an elite level, like an
all star caliber pitcher, right, And like you said, that's
what you need to win championships, Rob, I would argue,
especially on the Dodgers, and I don't mean for his
whole career, because we obviously anytime you have a fantastic hitter,
(06:01):
you want to see him to hit right, right, But
like say, for next season, as stacked as the Dodgers are,
if I was forced to choose one or the other,
you can make an argument you choose pitching like that
he should pitch.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Now, he probably wouldn't want to do that.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
No, but I'm just saying that lineup is so stacked,
as you said that they could afford to miss his back,
but they need pitching, and if he's gonna do that
at an elite level, I would say if I had
to choose one.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Thankfully you don't.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
But I would pitch him next year if I had
to only choose one. But overall, I'm with you in
that you let him do both. He'll eventually, you would
think he'll eventually, you know.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
And you say, he's twenty nine, okay, like you can't
keep it up and at some point you'll look at
it and maybe the pitching will fall off if he
becomes like and you know, and maybe how about this,
Chris just as a as a as A slipped this
in as far as a little twist to the whole
(07:11):
storyline you have, what if you make him a closer,
you know what I mean, like so that you could
still utilize his arm, not all the time, like just
to I just need you to get three outs in
the ninth inning. That's all I need to do.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Is he throw.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
He throws pretty hard. I mean, he's not blowing everybody. Yeah,
he's a hard throw strike, he's a strikeout picture.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Because my only concern with that.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
I like what you're saying, but my only concern would
be sometimes there are some closers, Rob, you know, they
come in and it's just heat, right, that's there. They're
just throwing heat, and I wonder what type of impact
that might have on him. Maybe it would be fine,
but you know what I mean, if he's just basically
(07:58):
throwing it as hard as he can every time up there, Yeah,
you remember that effect is hitting or I mean, I
don't know if that hurts you more than pitching six innings.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
And the other thing too, is that you're not winning
all the time. For the close of the pitch every night,
you know what I mean, Like like the games you're
you're out of the game. He's not gonna pitch those nights.
If he pitches the knife of you know it, pitch
a couple and it's usually get just three outs, so
he can pitch a few days in a row and
then and then they go on a three game losing
(08:28):
street Chris, where he's not pitching. You you would cover
you're just hitting. Worried about that. I'm just saying, not
the totally lose, not the totally losing arm. He has
a live arm.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
I would think that that actually is what will happen Rob,
Like once he's I don't know what, maybe he'll pitch
as a starter for three more years and then start
two years right, you start to see the decline, then
he becomes a closer. What would really be stunning. And look,
his whole career so far has been stunning. But there
(09:00):
there are a lot the greats Rob the absolute great
pictures they do last you know what I mean, Verlander,
and you know they're gonna old now, right, So I
could he remain I mean, it'd be shocking if at
thirty five and thirty six he still was this level
of picture.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
But here, look at this John Smoltz. Smolti's in the
Hall of Fame. Chris was a starter, lights out and
then got hurt. You remember he came back because a
closer and became an elite closer like like you can do.
And that was because of injury. But I'm saying you
could transition.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Into the closer idea. I think it makes all the
sense in the world. And I would imagine that that's
something they would look at. You know, they also could
look at relief, middle relief or something, right, but I
think you, unless you already had a great closer, you
would probably look to see if he could be the
closer first.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
He's got to be a closer or star like middle relief.
You're not really Yeah, why not? Because because you want
to keep him in the game and is at bats
and and if you're pitching middle relief, you know what
I mean, it's either got to be start the game,
Chris pitch six to seven in is great, or you're
winning the game because you put him in and he
got the final three outs. But no middle relief, it
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would have to be one of those two.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
I thought, Robie, we talked about it that I felt
and they got a long way to go, but I
felt like he should be even better at the plate
this year now that he's not pitching. You know, it
just makes common sense. I mean, that's why guys don't
do both. For one reason is because to be a
great pitcher you have to focus on it full time.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Or to be a great batter, same thing.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
And I felt like, now that he doesn't have to
split his time, he's gonna be phenomenal. And Rob he's
hitting three forty eight with thirteen dingers.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
And now I'll say.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
I saw two things. I think he's the only one
on Pace Chris for forty forty. He's on Pace forty
home runs, forty steals. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know.
If you saw last night, did you see the practical
the price they pulled on him? Did you see it? No,
he was getting up to back, getting ready in the
dugout to go to the you know, get ready for
his at bat, and they had somebody put on a
(11:23):
helmet like they were gonna pinch it for him.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Chris.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
It's priceless video. Like he's like, well, how did he respond?
Because he was like like he was like you know,
like right right right. They're like, oh no, so and So.
They're like so and so is gonna hit and he's
like like he's just like as a puzzle, like I'm
not hitting. And then and then they all start laughing,
and then it's this classic video if you ever seen it.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
I tell you one thing, And you know, I've said
he's the best baseball player I've ever seen, and I
guess I'm gonna be honest. I'm not gonna be a hypocrite.
I guess this falls Rob into that thinking.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
That some have.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
And we had a caller said last night that there's
a difference between best and greatest because obviously he's not
the goat.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Guys do a lot more. But he's the best baseball
player I've.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
Seen, no we've ever seen this at this level on
the lead pitcher and an lead hitter. Like that's why
all the baseball players, Chris and you notice went crazy.
You remember they were ready to give him the MVP
over Aaron Judge a couple of years ago. You remember
that CC Sabbathi And I'm like, basically, JD. Martinez, he
should get it every year, the MVP every year, blah
(12:35):
blah blah. And he hasn't won it every year. And
I get the reason why Judge had a historic year
that year. Chris, I thought he was clearly the MVP.
And if you remember, only two voters voted for Otani,
they both covered the Angels that didn't look good.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Yeah, he's won two of the last three. But what
I will say, Rob is let's say he stopped. Let's
say he doesn't pitch anymore, and he's just a hitter.
That goat idea, unless he becomes you know what I mean,
like Barry Bonds in terms of homers or hits, you know,
three thirty five or whatever in that conversation.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Because he could do both, right, I mean, unless he
became you know, but.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Not at this point his historic hit it no right totally,
like forty four home runs, three hundred, three oh five
whatever's not gonna get you that goat status.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
So I agree he'd have to.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Do both for a significant amount of time unless it's
hitting just continues to get.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
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Speaker 1 (14:56):
Yeah A seven nine or Fox. You're turned away in
on show? Hey, O, Tany is he too good of
a hitter? He's hitting three forty eight leading the league.
Uh to go back to pitching your thoughts?
Speaker 4 (15:08):
All right, and here's an opportunity for you guys to
jump in on the holiday weekend eight seven, seven ninety
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Couple Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 6 (15:19):
My guys, this is my favorite radio show, because who
else is talking baseball like you guys, honestly nobody, nobody
as much as your man. I love it, Man, you
gotta do it when you got Rob Parker on the show,
right anyway, I mean I think he is. I mean,
obviously I'm loving at three forty eight, but like, man,
we want to see him do both teams. That's why
he's Otani. So I don't think he should ever stop
(15:40):
unless it's like really detrimental to itself, as like another
to be an injury that obviously stops. But as long
as he can do it, then do it. Maybe do
what Chris say later on, like like maybe make him
just a closer and the hit it. But like, but
he's o Tani for a reason, and we want to
see him make the magic. He got a chance to
do something nobody else has ever done since the Baby Ruth.
I'm like, please do and then you know what at him?
Speaker 4 (16:01):
I mean, your point is, well, taking Chris, he's the unicorn.
The Dodgers are like the Beatles going around major League Baseball.
All his games are sold out and we're close to
it and people want to watch him, you know, play,
and obviously he's not pitching this year, but just to
see him and this seven hundred million dollar guy and
(16:21):
what he's accomplished so far in baseball, and then he's
he's attached to one of the biggest brands, you know,
sports wise, the Dodgers. He's got all that stuff. Thanks
for the car Adam appreciate it. Eight seven, seven ninety
nine off Fox. It's interesting, though, Chris, that even with
all that, the Dodgers don't have the best record right
(16:43):
this year. The Phillies are the best team in the
National League. You always got the Braves always lurking. You know,
they've had some injuries, but they got Chris Sale who's
been fantastic for them, So they're gonna be in the
mix because they have a young team with pitching. So
you got those teams up, you know, up against the Dodgers,
and in the American League you got the Yankees who
(17:04):
have the best record that's without Garrett Cole Chris, which
is incredible. I think I mentioned it yesterday.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
He always under three right, right, No, it's unbelievable. And yeah,
a lot of these things and this is what Rob
I mean, we've talked about it before. Baseball of the
three major sports, is the most unpredictable. I mean, you
team doesn't always win, no, no, And you would not
(17:32):
have thought that after they lost Garrett Cole that the
Yankees would be I mean they are pitching. Their pitching
numbers are incredible and as good as the hitting is,
and that's what's carrying them right large part of it.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
Yeah, they have thought that. No, not at all, not
when you lose your ace. Here we are almost in
the June, so he missed the first two months. He's
he's on his way back. I think he's gonna be
coming back soon, Chris. But your first two months and
you still have the best record in the league without him.
I mean that's that's like, uh, you know, get making
a trade or blockbuster, you know, and adding talent of
(18:10):
that silk. So that'll be interesting to see how that
plays out. But the Dodgers have their hands full and
it ain't automatic, Chris, despite the lineup, despite what they have,
the Dodgers have been good for years, for years. He
got that one championship to show for.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
It, right, and they got the second best record in
the National League. But it's about the fourth best record
or so in the league. The whole league. But yeah,
the Phillies, Rob, I mean they we've talked about it before,
Bryce Harper and uh remember Washington won that championship right
after he left, right, and so you know.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
So people thought like, right, people thought, well they won
the they won. You know, Bryce left, they won without him,
and he's not what he what people think. Two MVPs later,
Chris A Trip to the World. You remember that was
the year that they fired Joe Girardi. You remember Rob
Thompson became the manager and they caught fire. And last
(19:09):
year we thought they were going to until the upstart
Diamondbacks upset them. But they are in the mix. They've been.
They have a great start the last two years. They've
had slow starts in the beginning of the year, and
this year they look like they're a world beater. So
I don't ask for it.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Look, if there's a guy, I mean, there are a
lot of guys you'd like to see get a ring,
but Bryce Harper, Rob.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
I mean, he's done. You know.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
He came in very valley hooed and touted it gonna
be the next great thing, and he's lived up to
He's had a couple down years, but overall, he's clearly
lived up to it and been one of the greatest players.
And you know, during his era, got the two MVPs.
As you said, if he gets a championship, and I
know we don't really measure baseball like that, you know,
(19:54):
like Barry Bonds, right, it doesn't really detract from him
that he doesn't have a championship.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
But if Bryce could get one.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Especially Rob with what we said with Washington win it
the year he left for more money to go to Philly,
then I think that would really cap I mean, he's
that far from done. Would be like check, you know,
check really that last thing, right.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
And it would justify the thirteen year contract and all
that the Phillies did. He embraced the city, Chris. He
embodies that city, gritty, tough nose, you know, Philadelphia. They
love him down there. They packed the ballpark. I mean,
he's lived up to it because he was a sensation
on YouTube, remember out of Las Vegas hitting all those
(20:39):
home runs and all that, and they were like this
guy Bryce Harper is the next Strawberry ice Cream.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Well, and we talked about it, rob.
Speaker 7 (20:49):
It.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
You know, it's in a lot of sports.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
You know, a guy that's a prodigy doesn't live up
to it, but I think again, it probably happens more
often in baseball.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Right, He's lived up to it, you know.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
He is one of those those high school prodigies that
did live up to the billing.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
And that's good to see.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Did you see the other day when he went to
to ask this he like, there was a fan. I
don't remember what it was, what type of promotion it was,
but he went with.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
A fan, a high school kid, to ask this girl
to the prome and the kid one.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
I think he asked her for the kid and then
she gives Bryce Harper a hug, like I think before she.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
Hugged again, I'm like, what about? What about? How am
I gonna compete with that? With Bryce Harper? But nah?
Speaker 1 (21:44):
And what he talked about, Remember, we talked about bringing
more fun into the game and letting the player's personalities
come out and all of that, and I think baseball
has done that.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Better over the last few years.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
They have.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Personalities, you know.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
So all right, it is the Eye couple. Chris and Rob.
We talked about it about to start Dallas and Minnesota
pretty soon.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
But we want to talk a little w NBA very.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Interested, Rob Caitlyn Clark and Alijah Boston Indiana Fever Stars,
Boston Rookie of the Year last year. Caitlyn Clark. We
all know what she's done. But their team is zero
to five and the fans are letting them hear it
and the coach not a fan of it. We'll hear
from the coach and then talk about it next, but
(22:34):
first Steve de Seger with the update.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
Steve, see Steve, look, you're doing WNBA updates and we
got WNBA topics. The world has flipped.
Speaker 8 (22:42):
That is the lone WNBA game tonights. It's Indiana at
LA and they are expecting a big crowd for that as.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
Well.
Speaker 8 (22:51):
They called it like eighteen thousand plus, so that would
be close to a sellout at Well what used to
be known is still called by locals. Staple Center in
downtown All As far as MLB, Detroit has lost five
in a row, but the Tigers are up six nothing
going to the seventh inning against the Toronto Blue Jays
and the Pirates lead the Braves ten nothing in the
top of the seventh inning. Great start in DC for
(23:13):
McKenzie Gore. Nationals lead the Mariners five to one. In
the bottom of the seventh inning, Gore with eight strikeouts
in seven frames of work. As for the Kansas City Royals,
they've won six in a row and they're winning again tonight,
six to one at Tampa Bay in the top of
the seventh. Dodgers were down early but now lead five
to three at Cincinnati in the top of the fifth,
Brewers lead at Boston three to one. In the top
(23:35):
of the fifth, Boston working on a four game winning streak.
It's the Twins over the Rangers three to two in
the top of the fifth, Rangers trying to end a
four game losing streak, and the Orioles at White Sox.
Game is underway and scoreless in the first. You mentioned Philadelphia,
They're starting in a couple minutes. They're at Colorado tonight.
They've won six in a row, and the Phillies, in fact,
have won twenty nine of their last thirty five games.
(23:58):
Game two of the NBA's West Five Final starts in
a few minutes, with Dallas at Minnesota. Mavericks lead the
series one game to none. Game three will be at
Dallas on Sunday night. Indiana's Tyres Haliburton is questionable for
tomorrow against Boston due to a sore hamstring in the
NHL's East Final and early goal for the Rangers now
thirteen and a half minutes to go first period in
New York, top seeded Rangers leading Florida one nothing. After
(24:21):
the Florida Panthers did get the opening game in this
best of seven series, the Winnipeg Jets promoted scart Arneil
to head coach. He's a former Rangers assistant. Still without
a head coach in the NHL. San Jose and Seattle,
Davis Riley leads by three strokes at Colonial play was
suspended by bad weather. Scottie Scheffler shot sixty five to
move up to the top twenty. NASCAR's Coca Cola six
(24:43):
hundred is this Sunday Night on Fox TV from Charlotte.
The UFL football season continues Sunday on Fox TV before
the Race the next to last weekend of that league's
regular season their conference finals June eighth.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
Back to you, all right, thank you, Steve.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
It's the ah couple, Christ and Robb from the tire
rack dot Com Studios. As we said, Rob the Indiana
Fever despite having Caitlin Clark the number one pick and
Aliah Boston, last year's rookie of the Year, are O
and five. Still early, they've lost two of the best
teams in the league account for four of their losses,
so I don't think it's as bad as it may look.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
And Clark is starting to play better.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
And they're losing losses, but they're playing better, right.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
But their coach, Uh Christy Sides came out to talk
Rob about the criticism I guess from fans and media and.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
All of that.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
Of that was Nick Hamilton. I've got Nick Hamilton right
interviewing her.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
I don't I don't know.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
Maybe do we have the sound.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
Though, Patrick, we don't have any sound.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
We don't have any sound. All right, here's what she said,
the old Rob. It's really sad, isn't it. This is
the game of basketball, and she's young. Here's a lot
of pressure going into a player like Boston and Leah
Boston who had such a successful first season. I think
she said more, I don't let's see, okay here it is.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
We all need a little a little grace with what's
going on.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
It takes time to build a team. But she was
I wish we had that sound because I can't find a.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
Full full quote earlier.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Yeah, so she was basically saying Rob that you know,
it's just unfair the way the fans are going at
those two. They're showing up to work, you know, every
day and giving it they're all and they shouldn't be,
you know, treated like that. Now, Rob quickly, and I
know you want to go off or just say your piece,
(27:03):
but we have no evidence that I know of of
Obviously we've said Rob, there are some things that should
be off limits, if it's racial criticism, racial expletives, or
in this case gender ones, Rob, you know, if they're
calling them the B words and stuff like that. But
(27:24):
we don't know that that's any of as far as
we know. It might just be stuffed they might be
getting on social media, which could be really bad. But
also Rob, just the criticism we've heard, maybe from other
players or just fans booing them, or you not all
that you're.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Supposed to be better Boston, what happened to you from
last you know.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
It might be just jeers like that. So until we
see if there's some evidence of it really getting out
of hand, I would assume Rob is just the typical
booing and criticism that comes with being a professional athlete.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
What I didn't like, Chris was the belly aching by
the coach. You're owing five people are vested, Chris. People
that that's all. You can't be mad at fans that
if you're a fan base, do you want to be
on five?
Speaker 3 (28:16):
They were expecting a huge year.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
Yes, and and the whole notion like you're trying. Everybody's trying.
What you're telling me that teams don't try. The Pistons
didn't try last year, Chris, when they lost a million games.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
They tried every day every day, Right.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
So we're supposed to cheer him for that.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Come one million in this case thousands they're getting paid.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
I don't understand people. I don't well, as long as
it's not Chris, as you said, racist, sexist, as long
as it's not that. If I want to boot, go
to the game and boot them because my team is
on five and I want them to play better, and
I want Caitlyn Clark to be the starter that I
thought she was gonna be when I bought my season tickets.
(29:04):
That's what I've done.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
I agree, and Rob, I actually think again, we're we're
assuming there's no racial or sex racist or sexist.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Stuff that they're hearing.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
But Rob, I think it makes the w n B
A look a little bad because all we hear about
is how they want to be the NBA, and they
want to be They want the same treatment, and they
want the same love, and you know, they want the
same popularity and all this is.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
What comes with it.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
Yes, I mean, really, you're Russell Westbrook.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
We know how much he's called out of his name.
All right, how about Lebron James, Rob think he's get
some criticism. I mean, this comes with it, and I
get that they're not probably not.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
Used to it.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
So maybe this is what they want, right, This is
what if you if the W and and we know
it won't get as big as the let's say, for
the sake of argument, it does you're going, I mean,
are you gonna be at a handle? I think you could.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
But I'm just saying every day on daily talk shows,
radio shows like this.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
People talking about you, criticizing you.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Look at Jason Tatum Ron he had thirty six points
the other night, was a plus twenty and people were
killing him.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Yeah, for about and fourth quarter he was great, and overtime.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
He was And this is the whole point that you
just made, and I totally agree. Which one do you want?
Do you want to be irrelevant where no one's talking
about Chris? How many WNBA topics have we done in
six years other than Caitlyn Clark? Okay?
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Sadly probably none?
Speaker 4 (30:45):
No, I don't remember any. Okay, So you could be
that where nobody cares whether you're winning or losing and
you just go play your games in the shadows and
nobody in six thousand people show up, family and friends
and there's no coverage. Or do you want people to
talk about your games and care and want Caitlyn Clark
(31:06):
to play well and want her to have the impact
to turn she goes to the worst team, because what
the best player goes to the worst team to try
to make them better. So if she can make the
Indiana Fever Chris better, then it boosts her up and
makes the league better and then you have more conversation
about your league. That's what people want.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Totally agree, Rob, And look again, maybe they're not used
to it, and they.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
Will get used to it.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
The coach I mean, I would imagine Rob, Kaitlyn Clark
is used to it, but and she not the one complains,
but the coach probably isn't used to it at all.
I mean, you talk about the team that's been hapless
for the last several years, and she probably you know,
they don't expect much there.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
Nobody said anything this year, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
Nobody didn't care. And you're right, and Rob, that's in
every public sphere our show.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
I mean, we could be a show that nobody listens to,
nobody knows the many don't check our stuff on YouTube
and we just we just get paid our nice little
check and nobody cares about our opinions or whatever. Or
you can make some noise and you gotta deal with
some of that noise is gonna.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
Be negative, and we get we get ripped all the time.
But you see all the comments where it's moved enough
people christ for them to care. Like if you don't care,
you don't look, you wouldn't watch the videos, you wouldn't comment,
or if you don't care, or or we're not touching
a needle or moving the needle, I should say so.
(32:40):
So it comes with the territory. It's okay, we're not
all gonna agree with.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
It, right nah, And that's that's the thing. They're going
to have to adjust to. So I agree, I didn't
like hearing it from the coach unless there's something really beyond,
you know, across that crosses the line, and she didn't
say anything like that. And I do think right, like
I said, I don't think it. It's not the whole league,
But obviously anything coming out of Indiana with Caitlin Clark
(33:06):
is gonna be viewed and perceived as representative of the league.
And this makes it look like we're you know, we
don't know what we want. Yeah, we want to be popular,
but we don't want the criticism no, that.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Comes with it.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
If you're gonna be president of the United States, you're
gonna get some criticism. Half the country's not gonna like you,
right despite winning the election. Half the country will probably
be like, I can't stand this count.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
Yeah, So you.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Want to just be a little local position, okay, but
you know, or do you want to be big time?
And so this has comes with the WNBA, at least
trying to grow into being big time.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
All right.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Last night, Rob look, all credit to the Subjects for
that win, but it was strange the way the Pacers
ended that game. We'll get to that next, It's Christian
robbed The Odd Couple Fox Sports Radio.
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Speaker 3 (34:19):
Whoa Mary Mary is in the crates?
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Come on now, well, you and your mom must have
hit you to all this thing. No, you know, listen,
I group listen to like Arab music, air music.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
Yeah, because my mom is from Saddan, so she came
to America like two thousand and one. So what you
know about this? I'm a creat nigger.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
You're doing it.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
We are live from the tie rack dot Com studios.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Rob. I don't know if you saw.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
This at the you know, the game kind of got
out of hand and maybe people weren't watching it closely.
But last night in the fourth quarter, so Boston, you know,
won last night's game against Indiana. Tyrese Halliburton gets hurt
in the second half, third quarter.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
And they are down ninety nine eighty two.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Rob seventeen points with nine and a half minutes left
to play, and Rick Carlisle takes out Pascal Siakam, who
was crushing Boston had twenty eight points on thirteen of
seventeen shooting, and TJ McConnell, who has You know, he's
played well in these playoffs, and with Tyre's Halliburton, now
(35:35):
obviously he's your your top point guard. He takes them
out rob at that point and never puts them back in.
In fact, obviously Halliburton didn't play at all, but the
other two starters, nim Hard and Nie Smith, they only
played the combine four minutes, four and a half minutes,
(35:55):
and that was all by nim Hart, And so he
would end it game rob with people like Ben Shephard.
I don't mean ended the game, but like these guys
played the majority of the fourth quarter, Ben Shepherd, Isaiah Jackson,
Doug McDermott. Here was Carlisle's explanation, because a lot of
(36:15):
people were wondering, man, it looks like you threw into
town here is.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
We weren't.
Speaker 7 (36:22):
We weren't giving up, but it was an opportunity to
get some energetic fresh guys in there to fight you know,
and they did some they did some good things. Are
you know the guys that had played to that point.
You know, Pascal was very tired. You know, Aaron had
four fouls. He was he was tired. I mean, so
that was it.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
And he's saying something about wanting to see, you know,
what Doug McDermott could do and what these guys could do,
like it was a preseason game. Ro Look, chances are
they weren't coming down back down seventeen with nine and
a half minutes left. But Rob, we've seen, like we've
talked about, that's not the insurmountable lead that it used
(37:06):
to be. And they already gave away literally gave away
game one.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
Oh they did right, and then again I don't think
they would have come back.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
But you give it a puncher, you give it a try,
and they really didn't give it a try. Some people
might say, Okay, they're getting ready for Game three. I
kind of get that logic, but I just didn't like it, Rob,
because to me, that's too much time left. And in fact,
Boston kept playing their starters right.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
Pretty much dropped the rest of the fourth quarter. And
so I just think, well, again, being sixteen points right, Well,
sixteen points front fare. Yeah, yeah, so it wasn't like
it was thirty six points. And that's why Boston. I
get it. I'm not gonna kill Rick Carlisle Chris from
the standpoint of once you lose Halliburton and and you
(37:55):
look at it as an opportunity to be able to
get some people some rest so that you can be
ready we come home and get back in this series.
Like if you play those guys during that stretch and
you lose or somebody gets hurt or I'm just people
are gonna be like, why would they still in the game,
Like this game was ohd like like it's a catch
(38:16):
twenty two. But I do understand him saying I need
to save some minutes. I just need to save some
minutes and we need to regroup. We did it before
against the Knicks. We were down oh two, right, they
lost both games at Madison Square, Garden came back won
the two games in Indiana. So so from that standpoint,
(38:39):
I'm not gonna kill them. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
I would have liked to see I get there's a
certain time you can throw in the towel. I would
have liked to see them gone maybe three more minutes
or so, okay, six minutes left, we're down fifteen.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
Six minutes, Dougie Fresher, all.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
Right, I gotta be honest. I don't even I might
go down to four or five minutes, just.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
Because again, let's hit some threes, get some stops, and
you all of a sudden it might be a game.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
I do get what you're saying. They should see.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
I come, only played thirty one minutes, so you give
it your best shot in game three, that's really gonna
be the saion.
Speaker 4 (39:13):
That's your shit. That's that's everything right there. Game three
at home, Chris without your start player.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Yeah, I was look Rick Carlisle and you covered him
in Detroit. He's a really good coach. He's got the
championship in Dallas, was in Detroit when.
Speaker 4 (39:29):
He was with that Pistons team that wound up winning
with Larry Brown.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Yep, and he was good, you know, he got him
the fifty wins and all that. And then he's obviously
been good with Indiana. So he's a very good coach.
But I don't think there's been a good series for him,
you know. I think obviously Game one we talked about
no time out, he didn't call time out with ten
seconds left or instruct the players too. And then he
didn't switch on that last play when Jaylen Brown hits
(39:54):
the three and his team just started turning the ball
over crazy. And then last night the contra over did
he give.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
Up too soon?
Speaker 8 (40:02):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (40:03):
So you know we'll see Rob. They have shown hard,
they've been great at home. I think they're undefeated at
home too, and so and Boston's undefeated on the road.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
So this should be a good game three.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
And you know, you wish Holliburton could play rob, but
I don't think he will be able to. You saw
Ananobi after several dead games missed, tried to come back.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
He couldn't even run. He was scooting.
Speaker 4 (40:27):
Yeah, it doesn't look like, uh yeah, like it's gonna
be good for Indiana. But I think Rick just did
what he thought would be the best to try to
rally the troops and have them ready for game three.
And and you hate y'all, I hear you. If he
could have waited another three or four minutes, Uh, it
probably would have looked even better if they fell behind
by twenty five, you know what I mean. And they didn't.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
Right then you just get him out and look rob
without their point guard. Maybe they go sign Caitlin Clark.
I mean, some people think she could play in the NBA,
so who knows. You're just gonna never let me lift
this one down on you. I'm shocked that you're running
from this date. This is the first take I've ever
seen you run from what You didn't even run from
(41:09):
Tom Brady and he was like three superhowls after you
said he was done. But this when you you, I'll
give you credit, though you admit, Hey, I was wrong,
I was off miss all right, but all right, we
got an hour left.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
Y'all know what to dude, Lock it
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