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Speaker 1 (00:31):
Our number two here on The Odd Couple on a
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covers the Lakers and Clippers, all things basketball.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
We'll do that and Kelvin.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Yeah, the Warriors, somehow, somewhere they win Game seven over
the Rockets in Houston, and moving on round two of
that's right, take on the Timberwolves. But you know, after
they lost in Game six at home, they look pretty
bad in that and somehow someway and then all of
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a sudden, you know, they win a game, and of
course Steph Curry put a couple of points together in
the fourth quarter.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
I don't like the way you're saying it, right, now
put some respect on this. Put a couple of points,
time champion, put a two time.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
VP, and then they try to give it like it
was Steph who won the game. You want to talk about,
you know, fudging a story or over dramatizing, Like even
the headline for ESPN said Steph Curry and Buddy Heel.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
They because they couldn't.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Because because they they they couldn't they Buddy Love. But
they couldn't just add Steph Curry advances the Warrior because
they know that that would not be the real story.
So the Rockets at home in the game seven, we
getting a young team and all that. Kelvin, when was
the last time they led in that game?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yesterday?
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Do you know what the score was when they the
last time they led the Rockets? The Rockets yes third quarter,
first quarter nineteen to seventeen.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
I felt like it was a nip and tuck one.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
No, and then it was like sixty three sixty or something.
Actually led the game yep, one time nineteen seventy. And
the reason why this game that was a good movie
by the way, okay, nineteen seventeen, that was a Bond movie.
The reason why the Warriors got this win was simple.
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Buddy Hill hit seven of his first eight three pointers.
He finished nine for eleven from three. Steph had nothing
to do with this. I know he had won fourteen
rob g fourteen points in the fourth quarter. Yeah, okay,
the seam was up by double digits.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
They were garbage points. There are real points.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Steph didn't play when the game was on the line,
when it was real. He was like three points in
the first half. What was he one for seven shooting
that's when the game was won. Why do we have
to like massage the story to make Steph a part
of it and feel good about it. I'm not here
making it up. I'm being honest. Yes, he had fourteen points,
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but none.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Of them were clutch.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
You have not a clutch shot. You're up on eleven.
I can make that shot. I can't make that for real,
But you get my point. Not I say, don't get
carried away, but I get you.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
I'm getting carried away.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Okay, Why oh why do we have to do that?
And at some point when you talk about clutch, how
in the world could you rank this as a clutch performance.
Do's nothing clutch about it. It's stat padding, That's what
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it is. Okay, I'm not mad somebody gonna make a shot,
but come on, clutch. Oh, his clutch fourth quarter performance
wrapped it up for the Warriors.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Really double digits. You get my point?
Speaker 4 (04:12):
No, listen, listen, anybody who watched the game knows the
star of the game, who saved the game was Buddy Hill.
There's nowhere I give it because you're you're on the road.
Got them off to a great start, yep. And he
every time you feel like Houston might do something, he
made a huge shot.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
So you got absolutely.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
I mean, when Buddy Hill is giving you thirty seven
minutes and Dagner has the same amount of points thirty three,
that's a huge, huge, huge performance. And also he played
some really good defense as well. You gotta respect Buddy
Hill's defense in that game as well. Here's where I
would disagree with you, and I had to come to
this conclusion some you know, years ago. It will never
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stop show up in the stat sheet. But the one
thing Steph Curry does, aside from just simply being the
greatest shooter, is that he gets assist by simply existing
on the court. I know you're not, but let me digress,
let me die break it down. There were so many
times in that game where they literally were playing alive
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boxing one or all eyes on Steph, and so everybody's
looking at Steph.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Everybody's eyes are on Steph.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
And Buddy Hill was able to sneak away from his
defender and get open.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
They would find him a three.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
If you watch it, a lot of his was based
off little two or three steps to his right because
his defenders watching step watching Steph turn around, and he
just lost sight of Buddy Hill.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
So that would make the case that they should win
every game then, because they're all on Steph and everybody else's.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Well when Buddy Hill was hitting like that, they might.
But my point is, so I'm with you that Steph
absolutely did not. He's not the reason they won the game.
You can't even use the word clutching it, but I will.
I will give you the clutch perse I mean, what
else could it be? I mean, I like, that's the
only thing that could have been clutched that.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
So that's my thing.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
His simply being out there, his running around spaces the
floor for other players, and you hope, finally a guy
like Buddy Hilt can have a Klay Thompson like game
when Klay was Game six Clay and all that and
have that, and that's what he did. So I will
give Steph Curry credit for the history of him allowing
for defenses to focus on him and guys can benefit
from that.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
That's a fact on that.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
The other thing is we have to just acknowledge that
he's never gonna necessarily win game winners, but he is
gonna give you the Steph Curry flurry that buries another team,
and I have to just be okay with that. He
is one thousand percent never gonna give Rob Parker with
Rob his desiring Rob once too what And that's just
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not gonna happen. I'm not saying not because he plays
another two, three, four years. Obviously he can make one.
But I'm saying he won't have a history of those.
What do I have a history of? His team is
up five, his team is up eight after being up
eighteen or two. You're making a comeback three three, three,
night night, put the kids to bed.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
He'll do that. So the Steph Curry flurry that will
bury a team.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
Is absolutely real, and we just have to accept that
is that is his clutch.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
I'm a ice the game.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Put it away, were so far out of reach that
you can't get back, or if we were making a comeback,
we meaning the Warriors, I'm gonna be the reason.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Why why? Why? What? Now we're up?
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Can I give you some numbers during the game, that's
the previous game, this is the game seven?
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Thirteen of the twenty two Curry points came while the
Warriors were up double digits.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Yeah, I don't, I don't disagree.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Zero of his twenty two points came when the game
was within three points. In short, none of his baskets
came when the game was tight. More overre you ready? Yep, Curry,
it's still say moreover, it's about to be real? Yes, Oh,
for sixteen in his career on shots to tie or
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take the lead in the last fifty seconds in the
fourth quarter and overtime in the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
That that's not a.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Shot to Kevin Love. Okay, you they defended him Game seven,
But that's not a small sample. Would you say, sixteen shots,
you would hope you'd make five of them?
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Say nobody, Nobody expect exactly nobody saying, oh, how coming
to make eight or nine of them?
Speaker 2 (08:22):
No, you gotta give me four or five. You gotta
give me four.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
You're you're considered by some of the greatest shooter some Okay,
but but he hasn't made a shot like that.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
That matters.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
I'm telling you, He's created a new thing, Rob, you
gotta deal with it. It's the new thing. It's the
Steph Curry flurry. It's like uh little Richard rob Ge.
He hits you with a whp blah blah booh bah,
but wa wh bamboo and it's just blah blah blah
blah three three three, and that's it. You get the
Steph Curry. You creeping back in the game. You're now
your team is down fifteen. Your crowd's going crazy. Rob
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now says, I have an old reference. I want you
to go back to this. Okay, can we can we please.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Tell me I have on the Wow. I can't get one.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
No, can't get one, not as a forty three year old, No,
you cannot.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
I can't get one.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
Man.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
I'll tell you, why are you going on?
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Of the memes ever, there's one of the great Somebody
google the meme and then tweet us.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Okay, but I'm serious.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
There's a meme with a black man, probably mid upper
fifties and he's working ts A's a real guy, and
he's got the most little Richard hairdoo. And somebody said,
when you got a nine to five, but you gotta
wipe by blue Bob after it.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
You have to.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
It's freaking hilarious. If you know I'm talking about saving me,
that means so I could show Rob that's the Steph
Curry running back. Mary, you're making a comeback, Rob. This
is what happens. There was no man boot, there was
no comeback that comes.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
What was it come?
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Because you think, all right, we only down ten, we
got eight minutes down, We got eight minutes.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
That's nothing in the NBA. There's no pressure there and
there's not what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Did you see the Olympics, that's what he does. No,
the Olympics. Only one one of those shots, Rob, g
we went over it, didn't we did you analyze it?
We analyzed only one of those with.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
You, you know this, Reggie Miller, Damian Lillard, Chauncey Billups,
Michael Jordan, Larry Bird who I didn't already.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Name it yet, Ray Allen.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
There's like Jordy sure that I'm taking over him to
take the last second shot, Kyrie. But if you're saying
we need a flurry like my man I used to
work with when I was fifteen years old, and he
couldn't say mc flurry. He had he had his accent.
He was like make flooding. He would always say, Steph
Curry comes with the mcfloding. That's racis.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
That's how he said it. Where what Rob? Where'd you
get that from? What you mean? Mary Mack to even
look it up? How does she even know where to go?
Just like that one years old?
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Okay, but it's little Richard. Okay, Mary, hear me with
that one more time. This is what happens.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Curry for three hit it? Thank you what?
Speaker 4 (11:03):
That's my new thing? Roy J game one when he
goes crazy, get it ready? If he hits three four
threes in a row, That's exactly what happens.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Calling Steph Curry clutch no, calling him Curry touty fruity.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
I'm gonna just tell you come what.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
I'm not buying it, yo, you're on fire today. I'm
not buying clutches his purse and call him Tommy fruity.
You on fire today, boy, getting pair of George. You'll
not act well it ain't my car.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
With the car. I gotta go to the cat. Let
me go to the car. All right, you gotta go.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Rob jumps away for my gift card he said he
had in this Podcatude.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
No, I said, it's in the car.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
Go get it this next break, Okay, I gotta make
a phone call anyway, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Eight seven seven? What bather ninety nine or all right?
Oh so that's my new thing, man.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Anytime we talk about Steph Curry, I need that permanently, Rob,
che I I need.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Alright, alright, I'm crying, yo.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Was Steph Curry clutch yesterday in Game seven? Does it
matter what the score of the game is? When uh,
these Curry flurries hit. We'll continue that conversation next with you.
It is the Odd Couple, Rob Parker Kelvin Washington right
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Oh crying yo. Oh.
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talked about Steph Curry. A lot of people say another
clutch performance with him in the game seven, and you're saying,
pumped the brakes on clutch, and I actually agree on that.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
I do agree. It wasn't a clutch performance. It wasn't clutch.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
He playing and Buddy Hill should be the star singularly clutched.
Step This thing twenty two points is what you need.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
But STEP's buddy shouldn't be right and like if you
let him have the night exactly, he was so hot
nine to eleven from three.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
He said, the headline is my buddy and me maybe
like for my buddy and me something like that.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
I mean, how just row somebody's headline? Steve? You like that?
All right?
Speaker 1 (14:06):
All right, Let's go Kim in Phoenix. You're in the
couple Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Kim?
Speaker 6 (14:13):
Hey, what's up Rob? What's up Calvin? How you brother's doing?
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Doing well?
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Man?
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Doing well?
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Right?
Speaker 6 (14:18):
Right?
Speaker 7 (14:18):
Hey?
Speaker 6 (14:19):
I think Rob is just hating those Steph because Steph
light skin man. Let's let's just get that out there
right now. You know, I hear him saying nothing about
how clutch Lebron is because we all know Brian ain't clutched.
But here's the thing. Here's the point. Steph may not
be clutched, but he makes the guys around him clutch,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
No, but he's still but wait a minute, hold on, Kim,
he's still oh for sixteen in those moments when they
needed him. These are not made up stats to tie
the game or take the lead with fifty seconds or less.
He's old for sixteen from the field. This is Those
are facts, not feelings.
Speaker 6 (14:57):
Hey, I'm with you, man, I'm a big warrior, you know,
and I wish he would hit those big shots in
the moment. But that's why we got guys like Buddy
and had Clay and had Durant because he's a clutch maker.
Can we agree, Can we agree to disagree on clutch maker?
Speaker 1 (15:13):
I don't know what that is. So he sets up
everybody and then they make the clutch shot. Is that
what you're saying?
Speaker 7 (15:17):
Yeah, okay, exactly exactly, because I don't.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Know how you could be considered the greatest shooter of
all time and you can't make a big shot.
Speaker 6 (15:25):
Hey, how many championships the Reggie Miller with no, But it.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Doesn't mean whether or not you would rather him take
a shot. Came to come get you. Don't do my
guy rage like that seriously, And wait a minute.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
And Steph Curry is also the author of the only
three to one three three to one choke in NBA history.
That's Jeff Curry by hisself. Nobody else has ever done that.
Thanks anyway, Kim appreciated, Rob Gi.
Speaker 8 (15:52):
It's just a question, Rob because you know that's stat
I gave you about his fourth quarter numbers over sixteen.
I'll also give you some other state that's on the
other side of that. I'm not looking at it. Look
at I don't have time supposed to send him Tomaz.
So here's the problem, here's the double sided coin. All right, Yes,
Steph Curry has never made a shot in the last
fifty seconds, you know over sixty you mentioned that, But
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in game sevens in his career, he's four and two.
He averages thirty one seven and seven with two and
a half stocks per game on forty seven forty two
ninety three splits.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Go look at it again. Look at the game seven
that they choked down to three to one. Not only
did he not make shots, yeah, yet he had one
of the worst turnovers. You remember that, yeh, behind the
trophy behind, behind the bag. So but here's the question
trophy behind Yeah, Like I was like, what is this February?
Speaker 8 (16:44):
Does clutch only matter in the quote clutch time or
just being clutched in a game seven?
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Like, do you just not apply to that at all?
For me to answer that question.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
I think this is why he's become special in the
multitude of ways. And I've had to come to gris
with it because I used to be more of a
nit picker at Steph. Like, he's just unique in that,
Yes he does not hit buzzer beaters, but again he
breaks your back probably greater than anyone I've ever seen.
And so that's just his version of it.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
I just think you to be on that. And this
is all I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
When you want to put somebody like up there, like
the great, you could all go back to these moments
and situations.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
Do you know what I mean over Brin Russell, You know,
like Denver, I mean Phoenix, I mean and Bird.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Steals the ball like Kevin Durant.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
We remember the shot in Lebron's face right like this shot,
and you and and Steph's played a long time, has
had a lot of success.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Yet you can't go to one of those moments.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
I think that's weird that somebody is the greatest something
of all time, not that he's not a great player.
I've never said that he's not a great player or
he's the greatest uh three point shooter? Those are facts, right,
numbers wise all right, eight seven, seven ninety nine off.
Speaker 8 (18:07):
But can you be clutch like how he is in
a game seven without making clutch shots?
Speaker 1 (18:11):
I guess it's my question not when the score is
in double digits. That's not clutch to me.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
But he's saying game sex just like because he shows
up in game seven. But we've talked about this before.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Is it the same shot where the score is tied
or you're down one or down, it's not the same shot.
Somebody go like, oh, he made a clutch shot. Well,
the score was tied. There's no pressure on that shot.
If we win, if I make it, awesome. If I
don't make it, guess what we're going overtime. But if
I missed the shot, that's when you look at somebody go, man,
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that's a clutch basket.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Oh my god, I know what you mean. There's a difference.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
A lot of people say that about Lebron too, that
he'll always make the tied up one.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Who we got Jay in Georgia.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
You're in the couple five other over the weekend and no, no, no,
did not meet Jay.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
What's up Jay?
Speaker 9 (19:00):
Oh my god. I was about to say, Kevi has
stopped it.
Speaker 7 (19:03):
And then the guy Kim had even.
Speaker 6 (19:06):
Worse take, like what what did you mean? Make it around?
Speaker 9 (19:09):
People around him?
Speaker 6 (19:10):
Click like what either your cliss or you're not?
Speaker 9 (19:13):
And Kevin, what do you mean?
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Like I'm gonna tell you what I mean?
Speaker 9 (19:17):
That's his new click like that.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Let me tell you I'm with you.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
I've said it that, Rob has heard me say it
a million times. If you've heard me say there's there's
twenty people in history, and if I really put my
brain to every twenty five that I would take over
him for a last shot. But what I'm saying is,
and you've watching enough basketball to know what he does,
is if a team is down fifteen and they start
making a comeback and the crowd's going crazy and they
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feel like we can win this thing versus.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Wards double hits it.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
But I'm saying he goes crazy with a flurry and
pushes his lead back up or if.
Speaker 9 (19:55):
He's the most point running superstarn Ero, Like he doesn't
have like Rob just say, doesn't have like one seat
at your moment that you get call on.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
That's that's shocking.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Yeah, when Steph you remember when Steph buried that three
and won that game?
Speaker 2 (20:09):
You remember that case? Yeah, like that I remember that
though he didn't hit that.
Speaker 9 (20:12):
Yeah, I'm found of the A in the playoff like
when it really better, I found like, but he really
doesn't have like an NBA playoff sitting moment, like I
was a little overrated, was gonna be leading like.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
If you're if people are rating him in the top
eight top And by the way, don't go on Twitter
a ka X people have lost their mind. Now it's
you saw Kendrick Berkins, which I know Kendrick is Kendrick,
but it's tom to start putting him in the goat conversation.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
All right, Kendrick, come on, that's when you come on,
Kendrick shot. Come on. It's always the big man who
loves shooters.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
But but it's always like a prisoner of the moment
of a situation where he's the goat. He had twenty
two points, Like, seriously, he had three and a half.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
I'm dead serious when I say this is big man
that wish they could do what he does.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
I'm dead serious. Shaq loves people who the worst.
Speaker 8 (21:09):
One was after Game one of Clippers Nuggets. Yo, Kawhi
might be top fifteen all time. Can they lose in
the first round by forty five plots? I will say
that healthy Kawhi.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
He Drew in New Jersey. You on the couple with
Fox Sports Radio. What's up Drew?
Speaker 7 (21:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (21:24):
I don't think he's a big time shot maker, but
I think what do you do in the game seven?
Shows that I can count on you. But number of
number two? I know, as you said, championship wise, do
you need to win a Championship to be considered the
greatest shooter ever in your opinion, Like who was your
greatest shooter prior.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
To Rey Allen, prior to Steph Curry?
Speaker 5 (21:47):
You mean, yeah, no, prior to real because no, I'm
talking about Rob as far as Rob, Like who was yours?
Speaker 1 (21:54):
I never, I never, I would take Michael Jordan as
the greatest shooter. That's who I would take. Have you
had me, who's the greatest shooter in the NBA, I'll
take Michael Jordan. I mean, who has high who has
a higher shooting percentage right than.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Taking he took? That's might be the most underraty to
think about mj.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
No doubt any average thirty points in the postseason, drew
that that's the guy.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
If you of you to ask me, listen, if the
answer is Michael Jordan in any conversation, I'm never gonna
be mad at it. But Larry Bird to me is
the greatest if you're saying non step to me, just
like pure just shooter bucket of any kind is Larry
Bird and then some more. All right, Brian Turner, maybe
you can put a button on this conversation for us
covers the Lakers and the Clippers for the La Times.
We'll talk to him in just a moment. Right now,
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Speaker 1 (22:50):
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of the picture as a pop and the picture is
not gonna catch it? Okay, So one of their first
baseman's supposed to run, then they catch it, and and
and he's.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
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any rain or if it's frankling they're about to shorty. Well,
I don't know what, but looking up the pictures knock.
I mean, there are umbrellas out in the state. But
I'm just saying the picture is not supposed to catch that. No,
certainly not. BT didn't want to hear all that.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
It is the odd couple Robin Kelvin on a Magic
City Monday. We're joined now by our guy Brad Turner,
who probably is in easton Bull Paris Rome.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Or Son right now.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
He covers the Lakers and the Clippers, for the LA
Times lit sub bet you know he's not in a
playoff game.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
That's sorry about that.
Speaker 7 (23:35):
Just so you guys, I haven't left, yes, okay, but
I will believe you.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
I know they know. Hey, bt real, we got to
start here. So so uh.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
JJ Reddick says we need to be in championship shape.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Who's he talking about?
Speaker 1 (23:57):
And you better not have been at that us, sir,
because I would have said, had I been there, who
are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (24:04):
JJ?
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Because Lebron's in great shape, Ruie's in great shape, Austin
reason and who are you talking about? Who's not in
championship shape? And you guys let the guy off the hook.
How in the world could you let him off the
hook on that?
Speaker 7 (24:19):
Hey, my name is Brad, now you guys, just so
you know.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
All right, Brad, I mean the media, the LA media.
When he says that, who was he talking about?
Speaker 7 (24:28):
But look again, my name is Brad turned out LA media.
So I was not there.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Okay, thank you, I'm glad.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Okay, you know what there you can still get into
the journalism Hall of Fame.
Speaker 7 (24:39):
Down, thank you. Well, how about it. Let's just go
back to a couple of years ago where a guy
named Luca Nantes was playing for the Dallas Mavericks and
they talked about how he was not in shape. Just
go back to this season, how they said he wasn't
in the best of shape, and just go back to
the NBA Finals when Dallas lost to the Bars of
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Celtics all the way into June and they said he
wasn't the best of shape. He hit hit. Who are
you talking about? He's talking about Luca nag of course
he is. Don't be afraid that, Richard the guy. Don't
be how about this. Don't be afraid to go to
your star player and say, man, you got to get
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in better shape right about you? You have to. You
ain't got to, you have to then if you want
to do it that way, that was a guy he
was talking.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
But here's the thing I want to ask you, is
if you're not in shape at twenty five, seriously, as
you get older, you are you gonna get in shape
when you're thirty or it doesn't to me, doesn't make sense.
You should be in your best shape of your life
when you're in your only reason our counter this be you.
You just tell me if you is.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
We saw Carmelo do that Carmelo was a little pudget
for a while, but he was still putting a bucket,
so it's probably like why I got it. And then
all of a sudden, Carmela really started to take his
health seriously. And there's been a handful of players who
have done that well, Paul Pierce. Paul Pierce got much
better shaped later, I think probably because he got around
Kevin Garnett. When you get around somebody that can hold
you accountable to another level. And I think this is
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what the Lakers will be hoping for, spending the summer
with Lebron and being like, oh, I thought I was
getting in shape until I'm around this, He's not.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
That's a hope.
Speaker 7 (26:20):
But you know what's interesting there is that Luca plays
with his national team during the summertime. So when you
think he would.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Be in No B team playing I think on the bed.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
That's not the same as legitimately working on your body
playing basketball, dude, that's all you can be big doing,
David Oliver Mill, you can play basketball and not get
in the bed.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Zion, it's are you doing the other stuff.
Speaker 7 (26:47):
On top of old? What is Zion? What are you doing?
What do you I mean, well, maybe trying to plot
for the Saints means they're on the same team.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
I don't know that's right.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Joe d might be able to get him over there
the Saints, all right, Clippers, James Harden, I'm not gonna
blame it only on him, but I'm just not aggressive?
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Eight shots? Is that? Is that all? I mean? What
what is that? BT?
Speaker 7 (27:13):
Man? Look? So the very beginning of the game in Denver,
I'm watching his body moving. I'm sort of just watching
his whole way of doing things, and you could see
him being in this frame of mind that he was.
Maybe he was tired. Why would he be tired? As
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we just talked about being in shape. He was just
not into the game like he was in Game six.
He just wasn't aggressive, He wasn't looking to score. He
had thirteen cists, but seven points man in a game
that matters the most for your team when they need
you the most. No, he's not the only reason why
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they lost, but he's a primary reason why they lost.
I agree, Yeah, played this road in that.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
Well, what are they do moving forward? I mean they
had a really good season. Maybe people kind of slept
on them and all of a sudden they got there
and they ran into a Denver team that you know,
knows how, a really good team.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Yeah, I mean that's a championship. Maybe they made the
right move. Fire Mike Malone too.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
Yeah, well well yeah, we'll waiting to see. But what
are they is it? Hey, we're good. We just ran
up against a good team running back next year. Is
it something out there they need to do? Is it
time to move on from hard? What do you what
do you make of the roster has comprised and what
they should do?
Speaker 6 (28:23):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (28:24):
As it starts with James Watten has a playoff option
for thirty six million dollars. If he opts in, he
cannot get an extension. If he opts out, he can't
get an extension for the Clippers for up to two years.
They start talking to Lawrence Frank today the Clippers pensident
basketball operations. Some of us, if they just James decided
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to opt out, they will we sign him again? Some
does the f when they give an extension to.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Norman Powell, Well he's baller, he was playing.
Speaker 7 (28:54):
Well, you know, let's not forget. And Kawhi Lintar has
two more years on this deal. That's up to one
hundred million dollars. The best deal they have out there
is Zubach. He was starting extensions for three years at
about fifty eight million dollars. Now my view, if visas
Zubach has become a top five center.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
In THEBA, that was one of the biggest mistakes by
the Lakers. They just gave him. The Lakers have had
all stars and quality.
Speaker 9 (29:20):
You know what.
Speaker 7 (29:20):
That sounds good, Rob, but guess what, the Lakers didn't
win a championship.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Yeah, but I'm just saying to give that guy away.
They didn't get anything for him.
Speaker 7 (29:28):
You right about that? And there's a center that played
for the Lakers. Who are the Lakers who didn't want
to play the center who did bring them back? Luka Dantis.
I don't think he could have done that. He went
to the right place at the right thing.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
No, that's why it worked out. It worked out.
Speaker 7 (29:45):
Credit for him. And who to say that the Lakers
wouldn't have traded him between that time and now?
Speaker 1 (29:52):
No, I mean, yeah, you never know. But he turned
into a heck of a player. I think the point
how many years you've been coming the league? Okay, so
nineteen eighty seven for me, and when did you start?
Speaker 7 (30:01):
I started covering the Lakers where they finally beat the
Boston Celtiers, and was it nineteen eighty five?
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Oh wow, yeah, okay, kid had hair in my head
at the time and my dad, but Covey Koban shat
keep a ball behind those guys.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
So my question the reason I asked that, have you
ever seen the worst coaching performance in the playoffs?
Speaker 2 (30:22):
As JJ Reddick? I thought he was awful. I thought
he was going I thought he was awful.
Speaker 7 (30:29):
I would say this, JJ was a pozsively good, very
good during the regular season, and he was surprisingly bad
in the playoffs. But that's being a rookie head coach,
which was the same thing dogin Ham was and he
was criticized for They bitch lost his job. They're just
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there were growing pains that JJ went through, and I
dare say it cost him at least going to a
seven game All.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
Right, Well bet that we have we have more time
because I would want to stay there. Do they bring
him back or you know, like, do they keep rolling
with Jay? Is he their guy?
Speaker 2 (31:07):
You know what I would do?
Speaker 1 (31:08):
But Tom, you you worse than the now presidents. You
be apprentice, You firing everybody I'm just saying, thank you.
Speaker 7 (31:17):
Hey, where's out there that Rob Parker.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
I'm man, we're gonna have all dinner. I want to
wait for I'm waiting to find out. Let's do it.
You better hurry up for he be in Paris for
the month. Yes, I know, all right, Bet, thank you?
Speaker 4 (31:28):
All right later, all right, the great Brad Turner there,
always good to chop it up with him.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
All right.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
On the way, Rob, we got to get into some
more uh some more basketball. Actually, we got to talk
about the Cavaliers and the Celtics. And I'm not the Celtics.
The Cavaliers are in trouble because somebody who the league
has been sleeping on is waking the league up. We'll
tell you we're talking about. It's the Aacama Robin Kevin.
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Speaker 2 (32:15):
He's Rob.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
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All right, Rob, we have a series right now that
I don't know. Maybe people thought the Cavaliers would take
care the Pacers pretty easily, but not the case. They
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get a big win Game one on the road there
and specifically, a guy who the league considered to be
the most overrated player has been on a nice tear lately,
and that's Tyrese Halliburton. Remember, of course, I think it
was fourteen percent of the vote that the Athletic did fourth.
They pulled a bunch of anonymous players. Fourteen percent of
the vote goes to Tyrese Halliburton as the most overrated
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player in the league. And a part of that is
because we had them Deer and Fox and you know, oh,
that's a tough one, and he ends up going what's that?
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Yeah, yeah, that that It was.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
An anonymous players you know, to get up to get
a read on that. But all the people, all these
former athletes out here going crazy over draft people giving
anonymous do you know what?
Speaker 2 (33:39):
To put your name on it?
Speaker 1 (33:40):
And all these players have done these anonymous polls. Man,
this is where you get the real stuff. Go ahead, yeah,
well people, right, because people don't want to go on
the record. You want to say, do you know what
I'm saying?
Speaker 7 (33:54):
Right?
Speaker 2 (33:54):
But yeah, but that's an honest take if it's anonymous.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
Yep, so agreed, yo with that. Tyre's Halliburton. You saw
what he did to the Bucks in that game elimination game.
We're sitting at me, you and dis Sega almost fall
on the floor. I mean, he went crazy on them,
great defensive plays, scored a bunch of points to get
him in the overtime, then plays well in the overtime,
makes the game winner on Giannis and all that. So
obviously Pop's dad, Yeah, Pops, Pops stole the spotlight he.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Got his dad suspended by playing so great.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
Yeah, but so kind of a twofold question on one
and are we sleeping on the pacers? And then the
calves are kind of banged up? You got uh, you
got a hunter out right now, you got Garland who's
been out throughout the postseason so far, questionable DEFENSEI player
of the year and a really good player.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
He's really good. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
I didn't think he was gonna be at USC, but
it was like, oh, he'll be a topic. W look
good and he turned into a heck of a player.
Is all of this being banged up, being nicked up
gonna hurt a team that's going up against a pacer
team that had taken all kind of the East Coast
version of Minnesota Eastern Conference of where playing well towards
the end and found their groove offensive minded, got a
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bunch of guys playing well and uh, and now they're
in a good groove right now.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Yeah, it's too early to tell. I mean, I gotta
see the next game. Obviously, you don't want to give
up home court. You don't want to lose the first
game at home. It's a it's a bummer. There's no
doubt about it. But it doesn't mean the series is
over on one game, right, right, because Garland is key
for me though. Yeah, I mean they gotta get their
guys obviously, if they're all gonna miss a significant time
in the series, you're going to struggle because those are
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that's the three people that's a.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
Lot of I mean Garland, yeah, you and and and
if you lose Mobiley for a game or two, that's
an all Star caliber guy. You have Garland, an All Star.
So these guys, it's not like you're losing you know,
bench guy to get you eight a point. But it
could be a nice piece, but he ain't that. Garland
is Huges. He changes the pace. He gives them another
guy who can create or get his own shot as well. Uh.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
And so again he's just one of those pieces that
you absolutely need.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
But one of the things when you look at this player,
this pacer roster man, they got some guys you know,
Anice Smith who balled out for them. Uh, you got
nim Rant neim Hart who balled out different.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Remember last year they beat the Knicks in game seven,
uh to advance, right and they did wind up going
to the Conference final.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
I mean, you got a bunch of players, and that's
why I think again, while we've kind of all sold
them a little short, they made it to the Eastern
Conference Finals and they slightly were but people.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Don't remember that. I bet you most people don't remember that.
I guarantee they were in the Eastern Conference Finals. They
beat the Knicks in Game seven at Masters Square Guarden
and then went on and I know they you know,
probably was a forgettable appearance. But the Carlo is a
good coach. I've known Rick for a long time and
it's incredible what he's been able to do. Because they
came out yesterday ready to play. They did been an
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All Star before the change of pace from Toronto.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Oh yeah, he had.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
He's gonna be one of those players. Man, he had
a heck of a career. I'm not saying he's a
Hall of Fame or anything like that, but he had
a heck of a career. Was that a home run
for Showy?
Speaker 2 (36:57):
No, that's a replay from earlier. Well, I mean still
he's a he's I don't know sho. It's like whoever
caught it in the bullpen? Was his glove over the fence?
So no, I didn'tee why you gotta hate. I'm not hating.
I'm just asking shoe. He's been scuffling. He needed that. Yeah,
he might hit another one here. He's just he's that
type of guy.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
But yeah, the Pacers, man, I'm telling you what, maybe
we all put a little and, like I said, similar
to Minnesota where we had higher expectations for the first
two thirds of the season and we kind of rolled
them off a little bit. But uh, they're playing strong,
and they got a bunch of guys and they kind
of found their groove offensively, and they get after defensively.
And to Tyrese Halliburton's credit, I think he got back
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to just playing his game. I don't have to be
the best top two three point guard. I get my
guys the ball. We got a bunch of guys are
spreading around and he's in a good place right now.
I like the way he's playing and he's plucked. The
t Wolves are confident. They got their right.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Yeah, oh yeah, without a doubt. Very calm oh man.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
They listen and Edwards is what rob g Edwards walking
all around LA telling everybody about that. I thought it
was five. I thought it was Catman, Batman and Man
leggers and five. He's been running around talking.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Crazy to l A.
Speaker 4 (38:05):
You gotta love him, man, and you keep denying He's
gonna be the face of the league. Rob, you gotta
face the face to face. You gotta face it. You
gotta face it.