October 17, 2025 • 40 mins
Rob and Kelvin debate whether or not it’s fair to say that the Los Angeles Dodgers aren’t good enough at the plate (or in the bullpen) to win the World Series, and discuss why it seems almost inevitable these days that all close NFL games will end with a game-winning field goal as time expires. Plus, former NFL quarterback and FOX Sports Radio NFL analyst Shaun King swings by to discuss all the biggest headlines around the NFL heading into Week 7.
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Speaker 1 (01:08):
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Speaker 1 (02:38):
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Speaker 2 (02:41):
I'm just saying where you teaching right now? I'm teaching
at USC Okay.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Hopefully they don't listen to the show. They might have
to reach and citizen things. Yeah, they just might.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Uh two to one, Toronto, my goodness, gracious, two to one,
trying to win three games in a row in Seattle
after losing the first two at home. And you remember
Seattle bashed them in game two, but they scored nine yeah,
in that game.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
And now they've been scuffling.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
How scared are the fans?
Speaker 6 (03:10):
Like, oh, you kidding?
Speaker 4 (03:11):
We good, we get it's a long games, it's a
sixth inning.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
I mean they got four bats. Okay, so there and
and the thing is, and I'm not trying to make
an excuse, but the Blue Jays have uh it's two
to one and it was one one. And if you're
a Seattle fan, you gotta say, well, we had to
score one run even we're gonna win the game, right
like you had to score you weren't gonna win one one.
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So at some point they had to score a run. Okay,
Toronto scored a run. You gotta get a bloop in
the blast. You gotta do something here. Why can't they
just get a double in a single. It's unbelievable when
you come to the whole sason.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
I know, but that there in lies even listen to
our conversation. That's why are we.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Doing it exactly, which is that the Dodgers are not
going to win a World Series hitting the way that
they've hit.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
And I'm telling.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
You they've been very fortunate even in those games because
they've gotten unbelievable pitching.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Would you agree with that unbelievable?
Speaker 3 (04:14):
That's been remarkable.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
I have a feel, I mean, if it continues on
this this trend, we're gonna be like that will be
a conversation for decades to come.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
But I'm looking at it going.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
They've scored ten runs right in the three games, eight
have been knocked in.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Two came in.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
On a base I think a baseload of walking, one
on an era to pick off at first base. So
I'm gonna say they got eight runs right like the
old fashioned way. Eight runs in three games, which is
less than three runs a game. Now, that's great when
you're pitching. Is giving up one run a game, right,
So that's why you're up three to Oho. This series
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should not be three to Oho, to be honest, because
they haven't done enough damage. And when you look get
like show Hay, who I know let off for the
triple yesterday and that was good. But we saw Kelvi
when we watched the games every night, okay, and you
know we look at each other with some of these strikeouts.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
At one point, I don't know where he is now.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
So I'm gonna give you the number that I do
know for sure, not factoring in yesterday, right, but he
had struck out fifteen out of thirty four bats. That's
that show hal tany fifteen out of thirty four bats.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
He's been like, what is he bad? In one, fifty, one, forty.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
It's bad. It's bad. He got that triple yesterday, but
it's bad.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
But it's been bad and a lot of other guys
aren't hitting. There's not a lot of hitting going on
for the Dodgers. They've gotten a couple of timely hits.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
What you need.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
You got a home run by Freddie Freeman, which is big,
but it hasn't been an explosion and maybe it will.
But I'm just saying, when you look at Toronto the
way they swing the bats, say, if it's Toronto in
the World Series, you're gonna have to score some runs.
Would you agree with that? Like, like I know you
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want to believe that they're gonna get a shutout or
give up one run every night.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
I just don't think that you can live off of that.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
You gotta manufacture score more runs, get some timely hits.
The playoffs are always about starting pitching, right mm hm,
timely hitting and and and you know, and and and
and and.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
They need to do that. They just they just haven't
done enough of it.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
They haven't. There's no argument. They would not sit here.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Yeah, even even though they're eight and one, they wouldn't
sit up here and be like, we're playing amazing baseball right.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
This is last year, right.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
Dave Roberts is just you know, his said, the bulk
of our strength right now and our success is our
starting pitching. And this is why I I will disagree
with your sentiment specifically this team and theory. I get
what you're saying. The reason I just agree with you
specifically what the Dodgers is because it's not like they
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have two good guys, like two big time aces and
then a guy you know, he's mid but you know,
you hope you get back to your starter, like maybe
you're the Tigers or something like that, or a handful
of other teams where you got a guy or two
and then it's you're just hoping to get back to them.
They legitimately have four starters and that is where they
are the difference. Like, Okay, yes, Toronto or the Mariners
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have hitting the ball pretty well, but we know in
the postseason if I got guys that I can go
out there six, seven, maybe eight innings, that's just a
lot to deal with. That changes your approach and it
changes your mentality. For if you're the hitters of the
other posing teams, and specifically with the Dodgers' offense, they
have the luxury of getting it right because the score
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stays low for them because they're their starters are doing
so well that they feel like, I'm gonna get that
timely hit at some point, and they have they get
the timely hit because they're too deep.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Dude, eventually maximum he's gonna do.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
And who thought that Max Munty will be the all
time leader in Dodgers postseason history. Then you got, of
course home runs, home runs, specifically home runs, yeah, my bet.
Then Mookie Bets, who has been actually performing well throughout
the postseason. Will Smith, Freddie Freddie Freeman Taoskar Hernandez. There's
too many bats and when the score remains low, one
of those guys.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Are gonna get a time to hit.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
I agree, they're not gonna score maybe six seven runs,
but they're gonna get a hit or two, or you're
gonna have to walk show hey, and Mookie's gonna get
a double and he's gonna score. It's just they have
too many guys rob in that lineup that I agree.
They're not putting up big, gaudy numbers, but they get
enough timely offense.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
That's why they're keep one.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Here's the thing, and here's where I disagree, is you're
playing a dangerous game where every pitcher has to be
almost perfect in order for you to win, because all
it takes is a bloop and a blast and you
could have lost. The Dodgers could be down to to
one because they just haven't scored a lot of runs.
Even yesterday when they won, it was one to one
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and they got two runs on a pick a bad
pickoff and a and another play.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Do you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Like yesterday could have easily turned and been a win
for the Brewers had they got a couple of hits
or or things that or they played clean of baseball
and didn't throw the ball around and throw the ball away.
So you're not while it looks overwhelming one way three
to nothing, they were. They lost Game one two to
one and ended the game with the bases loaded against
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the bullpen.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Am I right?
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Like, so there's two games out.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Of the three that the Brewers were right there, and
that's what I'm saying, Like, offensively, they gotta get it going.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
What's what's the number for you?
Speaker 4 (09:43):
Like that that you were saying, It's like no, I'm
really no, Just like like you say, X amount of
runs is a offensive explosion to get to if they could.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Get six runs or something, sure, and they had five
in Game two. But I'm saying, you're playing a dangerous
game where your pitcher feels like he has to almost
pitch seven or eight innings and can only give up
no runs or one run. Do you know, like that's
a that's a hard thing to do the entire time.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Here's here's the here's the benchmark.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
The reason I ask you that because I'm looking at
last year's scores and what they're gonna have to do,
I think is get around where they were then, so
I meaning it can't be one, two, maybe three runs.
Last season in the World Series against obviously the Yankees,
they had six runs.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Four runs, four runs, four runs, and then seven runs.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
This is what I'm saying, like, look at those numbers, okay,
and this one it was two to one. They won
the game one game two five to one. That was
a good win right there and everything. Uh, and then
they won three to what was it yesterday?
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Three to one? A four to one. I'm just.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
It was three I believe was it? Look? I think
it was three if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Maybe they attacked up run on late? Was it four?
Speaker 1 (10:55):
But you get My point is that at one point, uh,
they haven't scored.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
They scored ten runs.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Yeah it was three one yesterday it was three one.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
It was okay, so you look at that, Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
That's right because that's ten runs, right, and two of
them came the non traditional way. As what I'm saying, like,
they knocked in eight. That's less than three runs a game.
In none of those World Series games did they have
three runs or less than three runs.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
The production is down, That's what I'm saying to you.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Well, I know I ain't no denying that.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
And a large part of that is you're expecting Showhy
doesn't have to be you know, all world but he's not.
He's performing at this level of you know, of ineptitwoe.
But but what I'm saying is if they can get
the four runs three of the three of the five
games at four runs last World Series four runs, it's
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very doable with that offensive line and then four shit suffice,
with the way those pitchers are pitching. Now, you might
lose a game they have a big game either you
lose seven to four. But I'm saying that pitching is
at a level right now that I think we're gonna
be having conversations for the next decades.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Remember that.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
But on just five, we're also looking at a juggernaut.
The Blue Jays beat up the Yankee pitching. The Blue
Jays have beat up the Mariners since they went to Seattle.
All I'm saying is if it's Toronto, they haven't been
scoring three runs or less. They have been bald swinging bats,
is what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
But I get the pitching.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Yeah, but the Phillies that had some you know, big bats,
and they they only had they went three. Then they
had a big game eight. But then they go to one.
You know, the Brewers beat they had the best record
in all baseball. They had a bunch of guys who
just hit pretty well. Two runs, they.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Got one run, one run, one run. So like, I understand,
they have big bats.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
But I'm saying, where the Blue Jays are swinging the
bat right now?
Speaker 2 (12:46):
That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
No, I know, but I'm mentioning these teams who have
had better offensive performances and they just have not been
able to produce against the Dodgers. So I told listen,
if I'm the Dodgers, I'm not coming into this going boy,
I tell you I want to win every game to
the one, three to one. But I'm saying that's a
wonderful thing to have in my back pocket, that my
starters will keep the game right around two.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
One is here's the other thing that you're not taking
a consideration. And I hear you.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
If you bring a bullpen, Okay, there you.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Go in the bullpen, which almost blue Game one after this,
brilliant stay focused will be talking about Okay, there you go,
stay focused.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
If you ring it the bullpen, I ain't got much
of it.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
They've been better, obviously, but we've seen horrible for the
last month from them.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
So that's end of the regular season.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
No doubt.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
And finally Seattle is threatening two more, two out, sixth inning,
two for twenty nine with runners in scoring position, and
they got a man on second.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Here's your key hit. You know what I mean that.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
You need at some points moment you can't.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Make, you gotta you gotta be able to knock in
runs during these time.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Uh So it's a it's a tough moment.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
There for people who's a Dodger fans. Probably according to him,
this has been terrible baseball.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Remember, he's like, I don't like he's gotta be a
bunch of runs.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
So he's been enjoying the ALCS versus the NLCS holds
out all right.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven
nine nine six sixty three sixty nine. Is the Dodger
offense good enough to win a World Series? The offense
good enough we know the pitching is or is the
pitching so good that it won't even matter?
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All right, Dodgers pitching has been spectacular. Is the offense
gonna scare you? And it's not good enough to win
a World Series rock success? I think the pitch is
good enough to get it done. What's say you? Eight seven,
seven ninety nine one?
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Fox? Who we got?
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Let's kick it off with Sean in Sacramento. You're on
the couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
What's up?
Speaker 6 (16:15):
Sean?
Speaker 8 (16:16):
Yeah? From another because Kobe, my brother's dying the board.
I'm a what up?
Speaker 6 (16:23):
Though? Rob?
Speaker 8 (16:24):
Come on, man, are you really trying to criticize it
hitting while hit? They are putting on a clinic. I
thought you was an old school baseball hair Rod.
Speaker 6 (16:33):
It's a shade of Doc.
Speaker 8 (16:35):
In the eighties, putting guys down from the first to
the eighth and then if he has to. Man, they
don't have a bona fie closer. They've shown they can't
do anything, you know, with the with the bullpans, so
you might as well let these pictures rock. Who cares
if it's a two to one game, man, you forget.
On the other side, the Brewers don't exactly got bad
pitching over there. They were number one in the entire
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n OL.
Speaker 6 (16:56):
For a reason.
Speaker 8 (16:56):
So for you to come out here criticize it, oh
Tani and lifting up the entire team for being great.
Speaker 6 (17:02):
Look at what tay Oscar is doing.
Speaker 8 (17:04):
Looking what edmunds.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Averaging less than three runs a game. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
Look at time, score.
Speaker 8 (17:14):
Three runs and be in the playoffs, than be Aaron Judge.
Speaker 6 (17:16):
At home not hitting any run.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Nobody, Why are you gotta bring up Aaron Judge?
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Nobody see Sewan, Nobody brought up Aaron Judge.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
The Yankees are out of it. We're not talking about
the Yankees.
Speaker 6 (17:29):
I'm just saying you.
Speaker 9 (17:32):
What the Dodgers doing right now?
Speaker 6 (17:35):
Man?
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Oh man, all right, Sean, get off the phone.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Ain't right. But I'm still riding. How long that's right?
Speaker 4 (17:42):
How long did you cover your buddy Joe Dumars's Pistons.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
What do you mean? I was there the whole run,
right there when Joe was a player.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Right. So my point is, remember that Pistons team.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
They wasn't gonna light you up one hundred and twenty points,
but they was gonna lock you down. That's what the
Dodgers still run out, ain't scoring eight, but we hold you.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Was saying is if they're going to face the Blue Jays,
who are swinging a hot bat, they're gonna need you.
That's why I'm not bringing up any of this for
any other reason other than a team that you could
potentially be facing who are up two to one in
the seventh inning in Seattle.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
If they win this.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Ball, why can't they stifle them too?
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Okay, but you don't have a great bullpen, which is
which is why I'm bringing up the.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Point I don't And there you go. So that's what
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
And the likelihood that you're gonna get seven or eight
innings out of every starter just is not realistic.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
That's what I'm trying to say to you.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
I don't know these starters. I mean, we you and I.
They're a historic run right now. It's absolutely crazy.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
But yeah, if I can get four out of them,
I think four is it's still low, but it's obviously
more than what they've been getting lately.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Kevin in Culver City, you're on the couple of Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
What's up, Kevin?
Speaker 3 (18:54):
God is good all the time, Kevin, I.
Speaker 9 (18:58):
Got something to say right now, Rob, when you talked
about this on Monday.
Speaker 6 (19:03):
I was gonna tell you, Hey.
Speaker 9 (19:04):
There was a guy named Blake Snell who didn't play
against the Brewers. There's a guy by the name of
Max Musky din't play against the Bruises. That's why they
beat him six times in the regular.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Mookie played.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Did come on man, stop with dad that they didn't
beat them because those guys were missing. They beat up
on the Dodgers, just admit it.
Speaker 9 (19:24):
But look, give them a credit. This is the best
team statistically record wise, the Brewers in the regular season, yes.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
But look at what they do in the postseason. Look
at the postseason.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
All I'm saying is Game one ended with the bases loaded.
Capt be honest, they could have easily lost that game yesterday.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
It was one one in the seventh.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
It took a bad throw and a misplay to get
you those runs to win that game.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
That's all I'm saying to you.
Speaker 6 (19:52):
I'm agreeing with you.
Speaker 9 (19:53):
But you got four aces, you got snail, you got
glass now o Tani and you got Yamamola. Here's a
see timely hitting. The mess was dusting players off yesterday.
But the timely hitting of Tommy Hitney, that's clutch hitting.
That's gotta mean something. The Oscar Hernandez, the three run
homer against Philly, that's gotta mean something. Oh Tony the.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Home runner, Will Smith, Will Smith something clutch hitting.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
I get the timely hitting.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
I'm just saying, do they have enough to face the
juggernaut that is the Toronto Blue Jays Offensively? You're going
to shut them down the one runner game like you
did the that office.
Speaker 6 (20:34):
That offense is something differ.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Scary right now. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 9 (20:38):
They're very deep, but I think the Dodgers can be
up for We saw the fraise Freeman, Dinna get this boy,
Judge left left bro my boy on the World Series stage.
You know that you're gonna come to play and so short.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
All right, all right, I'm so tired of Hey, rob
By the way I'm looking at South here, make sure
I'll get this right.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Uh best so itsus.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
The blue Jays and the Dodgers were one and two
in hitting, So I mean, it's.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Not like the Blue Jays are doing now though look
at their postseason number.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
But they're doing it to the Mariners. They ain't doing
it to Yamamoto.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
They did it, okay, doing it.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
You know, they're not doing it too rop They're not
doing it to a billion dollars worth a pitching and show.
Hey and Yamamoto. Not to mention Blake stand not to
mention baseball people out there know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
It's like it's working now, but two of those three
games where you got well pitched games, you needed a
little luck to even win those and they went your way.
But it might not go your way in the next
series if you don't start getting it.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
I'm not disagreeing, that's all I say. You're walking around like, hey,
we're gonna win evergame to one. I do think, But
I do think you're under selling. Maybe the they get
the right hit when they need it, and it's not
Grand Slams all the time.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
It's not six inning five you know, fifth sixth.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
I get it.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
They get just enough, all right. We got Sean King
on the other side of trending right now. Steve de
Seger is gonna get you updated.
Speaker 10 (22:14):
Steve Let's update. Game five of the American League Championship Series.
The series tied at two, and at the moment at Seattle,
the Blue Jays are leading the Mariners two to one.
In the bottom of the seventh inning, All Star pitcher
Brian wu of the Mariners returned to the roster this round.
He's been out a month with pictorial inflammation. Went fifteen
and seven regular season, allowed to go ahead run in
(22:36):
the six The bad news for Toronto Blue Jays DH
George Springer is injured a left hit by a pitch
on the knee. Had a hard time walking afterwards. This
is the guy who hit three hundred with thirty homers
this year and has plenty of playoff experience. Blue Jays
looking to go home with a three games to two
lead after tonight. Game six is Sunday night at Toronto
(22:57):
on f S one. Toronto rookie pitcher Tray Savage, we'll
start that game. It's Game four the NL Championship Series
in La. Tonight just a few minutes from first pitch show,
hey Otani on the mound against Milwaukee's Jose Kintana, who's
barely pitched after a strain calf mid September. He went
eleven and seven this year. Milwaukee outfielder Jackson s Curio
(23:18):
returns from the hamstring cramp of yesterday. The Brewers have
lost nine straight postseason games on the road. The record
is twelve straight. Milwaukee was seated number one overall for
these playoffs after ninety seven wins in the regular season.
San Francisco tight end George Kittle will return Sunday night
after a torn hamstring. On opening day, San Francisco will
(23:38):
host Atlanta. Forty nine Ers quarterback brock Perty out again
with a toe injury. Mac Jones will start. Vikings QB
JJ McCarthy is still out with the bad ankle. Carson
Wentz will start against Philadelphia. Arizona quarterback Kyler Murray is
questionable against Green Bay with his foot injury, but wide
receiver Marvin Harrison Junior practice fully after last week's can cut.
(24:00):
Wide receiver for Dallas, Cede Lamb returns this weekend after
the bad ankle, but defensive back Trayvon Diggs is out.
He's in concussion protocol after an accident at his home.
Washington wide receiver Terry McLaurin is still out for the
game at Dallas due to his quad entry. Wide receiver
Deebo Samuel questionable with the Bruce Seals. Sunday's game is
on Fox TV and in college football right now halftime.
(24:24):
Louisville leads at number two ranked Miami fourteen to ten.
Carson Beck has thrown two interceptions late first quarter and scoreless.
On Fox TV. Number twenty five Nebraska is at Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Back to you II, Steve, thank you appreciate this taka.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
But Rob Parker Jove of Washington, you see Donkey flashback Friday.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
What's that?
Speaker 6 (24:43):
It like?
Speaker 2 (24:44):
A ball?
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Was almost out as a home run, but it was
called just foul. My god, for Seattle went down the
left field line. They challenged it and it was called
foul originally, and it's still foul.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
All right, keep you updated on that throughout the game.
They're sitting at the bottom of the seventh all right.
As I was saying here, we got of course Sean
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Speaker 3 (25:16):
We're down with the King. Sean King, former.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
NFL quarterback, Fox Sports Radio NFL analyst Real Sean King.
Speaker 6 (25:22):
What's up man, Brewers in seventh?
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Wow?
Speaker 4 (25:26):
Wow, that's a hot tea. My headphones weren't working. I
thought you said Brewers in seven. I couldn't hear you.
Speaker 6 (25:32):
That's Brewers in seven.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Stop it.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
That is a hot tag.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
You do know they'd have.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
To go back through that starting lineup again, starting pictures again.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Hey, let me say this to you, Sean after last
night's ICEE Hot Bowl, are you ready to return to
the NFL and play quarterback?
Speaker 6 (25:49):
I mean what I am is if I go back,
I don't want to go to the Cleveland Browns boys
functional organization. Mate, Joe Flack, what'd you make of that?
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Last night?
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Those were two guys man Aaron Rodgers and Joe Flyco
put on a show that was that was an entertaining
game there.
Speaker 6 (26:09):
It really was And what I would do is if
I was coaching in the NFL, I would break down
the film and show it to my young quarterback.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Then you go go ahead, tell Calvin, tell them go ahead.
Speaker 6 (26:20):
I would show the young quarterback that this is what
I tell you, the quarterback position in rhythm on time
with breatball.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Thank you right.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
You know the best part about this is, Sean, Wait,
who are you showing to take to the gear?
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Who are you showing to take young quarterbacks?
Speaker 2 (26:39):
The guys who can't play?
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Right? But wait, you're showing it to young quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Why?
Speaker 4 (26:43):
Because they're the ones playing, They're the ones starting. No
nobody want Joe Flack.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
They do, and showing my point is this is why
older guys get to stick around, because they know how
to play the position. There's fifteen teams that need a quarterback,
and what if they could upgrade. There's so many bad
quarterbacks in the league?
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Am I role?
Speaker 6 (27:03):
And for context? I wouldn't do it as a we
can replace you. I would do it as a teaching tool.
So for kind of a visual representation of what I'm
talking about. When the coordinator calls plays and the ball
comes out when it's supposed to the person it's supposed
to go to, and it's a catchable football. That's why
I feel like a lot of these young quarterbacks struggle
(27:25):
because so much of what they do is throwing screens,
throwing RPOs, running around trying to create explosive plays. They
never get really good at just throwing the ball in
rhythm from the pocket. And that's what you saw last night, right.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
And they did a great job of that.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
And you mentioned too, I brought up I mean, you're
looking at Joe Flacco two touchdown, six interceptions with the Browns,
now he's got five hundred or six hundred yards in
two games with the Bengos, totally bringing out, you know,
the best version of him. I want to go to
some of the games we got coming up this weekend,
start here with good.
Speaker 6 (27:57):
Can I make one more point from that game last night?
I would also show my quarterbacks, whoever is Jamar Chase
is this is what you do from a decision making
standpoint when we get manned and man and I thought
Floco would get an excellent job of throwing the ball
to his best receiver in man situations. If I had Jalen,
(28:19):
I would show Jalen that tape. If I had, you know, Jackson,
I know million Namhbers is hurt, But if I had
some of these young guys, I would show them what
a veteran does when you have an elite player at
wide receiver. I would show it that JJ McCarthy. Listen,
when we get maned and we got Jefferson matched up,
he's just as good as Chase throwing the ball.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
Yeah, and you shouldn't have to convince him either. Right,
those dudes are insanely talented. Let me go here, Sean,
I'm looking at this game right here, Eagles at Vikings.
It's a big game for both teams obviously as they
continue to try to, you know, rise up the NFC ranks.
But Vikings defense, we know has been good Carson Wentz,
you know, little maybe get back game an old team
(29:00):
that had them.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
What are you looking at from this one? From the Eagles?
Speaker 4 (29:03):
We know offensively they've been struggling bottom of the league
and running bottom of the league and passing, and they're
going up against a really good Brian Florence defense. They
been hearing the noise, to be hearing all the arguments
and players meetings.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
What are they gonna do to this week.
Speaker 6 (29:18):
I'm on the Vikings in this game, like I'm fading
the Eagles until I see something different. It's interest in
the body language of the Eagles looks a lot like
the body language of the Ravens. And this happens in
pro sports. When everybody's gotten paid, it starts being a
lot harder to self analyze and self evaluate, to really
(29:38):
focus on doing your job, you know. And I think
that's the worst fear with the Eagles, even when they
were undefeated, when you look at the the inside the stats,
they they were getting outstaated, but that they were kind
of getting fortunate, you know. Block field goal here, blockfield.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Goals, it's called that's called football, man, You know what, Sean,
I take exception to that. And I'm gonna be honest
because I hear that all the time, you know. And
and it's about winning and losing. We could do that
all day. Tom Brady fumbled the ball against the Raiders.
Guess what, Tom Brady has a Super Bowl off that play, right,
(30:13):
We could do that. I've seen it over and over.
We could do that with everybody. It's still about wins
and losses. And if we're gonna play that game, I
could take away so many Super Bowls from people and
situations and NBA finals because they had three players injured
and Bill Buckner had a ball go through his legs.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
You know what I mean. I could do that all day.
Speaker 6 (30:35):
I guess my my pushback for you would be did
the Raiders outstat the Pats in that game? No?
Speaker 1 (30:40):
But my point is I'm just saying, like the idea that, oh,
well the Eagles they got a black field goal, No,
that that's football.
Speaker 6 (30:47):
Yeah they did, but I put I put contacts on
by saying they were outstatic, which means the opposition had
more total yards of offense.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
If that doesn't win games. It's about how many points
you score. You could have as many statue you want.
Speaker 6 (31:01):
It speaks to the process, though, right. The process matters
in sports, whether it be football, whether it be basketball
in the NBA. If you have a game where you
shoot twenty of twenty five from three, you're probably gonna win.
But that's not sustainable over a long period of time.
So all I'm saying is the efficiency that the Eagles
have operated with at times, especially running the football, playing
(31:23):
great field position, you know, situational football. I didn't see
that this year that they're not running the football at
the level they were.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
I understand that. I'm not.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
I just don't whenever I hear about, oh, they're a
block pour of b lock field goal and something else
away from having only two wins or what but whatever,
But you could do that the other way.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
You can do it.
Speaker 6 (31:43):
The source matters. This isn't coming from some talking head.
This is coming from I guess you have on your
show that played and coached. So I'm giving you my perspective,
my perceptive of my perception of what I'm seeing. Can
they fix it? Yes? My point is until I see
them fix it, I'm gonna face it.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
So you're saying the Eagles are not going to make
the playoffs and they're a bad team.
Speaker 6 (32:06):
No, you can't ever say that. The national Football leage
at this point in the season. It's too much.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Football, right, there's a lot to go.
Speaker 6 (32:12):
Okay, Yeah, they're just not as efficient as they have
been in the previous seasons. So until I see that efficiency,
I'm gonna fave them.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Okay, if the Jets lose again and they get embarrassed,
I can't let it go. Because Aaron Glenn was he knows,
he knows everything, and he's gonna set up the culture
and he's kicking he cut two part returners or whatever,
kickoff returners, all that minutia and stuff that doesn't matter
(32:39):
if they get blown out again.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Where are you, Aaron Glenn?
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Just you're gonna let them ride it out for the
next year or so, or do you look at it
and have to reevaluate and say, what's going on here?
Speaker 2 (32:49):
They shouldn't be this bad. They got some players, don't they.
Speaker 6 (32:52):
Well, if you're asking me what happens in the NFL,
look at the Patriots last year. They felt like they
made a bad higher with Mayo and give him an
opportunity to fix it. They switched the vrabel Uh, we'll
see if the jet channeled the same way. If I
did it, I would feel like I hired the right guy,
and I'm gonna give him time to get the culture changed,
(33:13):
to get the roster situated in a way that he
wants and likes, and give him a chance to succeed.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Sean, let me say this to you.
Speaker 6 (33:20):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Let me say this. I hear your point, and for
the most part, a lot of GMS would go your
way because you don't want to admit that you're wrong.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Okay, that you that you made a mistake.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
But sometimes and and Joe Dumore said this in Detroit,
and I.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Agree with it.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
It's not about being right, it's about getting it right.
Nathaniel Hackett they knew right away wasn't a head coach.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
They didn't give him another year.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
And you know, Gerard hold the Mayo, they didn't think
that he was the guy, so they.
Speaker 6 (33:53):
And Rob he makes a good point. But I think
the thing that we don't know how is Aaron Glenn
handling things and pernally a lot of times that God
can have a lot of ideas about will what will
work and what won't work, and then he gets in
that position and he's finding out that those ideas were
the right ideas. Now, the guys that are gonna be
really good head coaches, you know what behind the scenes
(34:14):
are like, Okay, I thought this, but we gotta adjust it.
We gotta do this. We gotta manipulate this part so
that this part can be less of a deficiency. We
don't know that part of what's going on.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
Sean, can't our guests here on the Odd Couple, Sean,
we appreciate man we're up against it as always.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
You gotta quit guarantee or anything.
Speaker 6 (34:33):
Uh yes, I'm going Detroit Lions big on Monday Night.
Terrible spot for my bucks and we're banged up. Lions
are coming off a loss. I hate this spot for us.
We're gonna knock them out the playoffs, but they're gonna
they're on wood shut us Monday night.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
I like that, but man, that worries me with our
branch too. That's a big loss for the Lions. Appreciate you, Sean.
Speaker 6 (34:52):
Thank you segment. This isn't long enough.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
I know, I know we gotta and we gotta work
on that. Man, we do gotta work on that.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
Appreciate all right field goals making it easy to win games.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
The game has changed. We'll talk about it.
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Speaker 1 (35:21):
Double wow, did you see what happened? No, cal Rawley
tied the game for Seattle. Reliever came in a little
and he came up with Gito. He fell behind two oh.
Steve was at a two o count. It was two.
We fell behind two. Oh, he had to throw a fastball. Wow,
(35:44):
and Cal left the building. It is tied to two
in Seattle in the bottom of the eighth. What a
big shot. That was unbelievable. That's play on baseball right.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
There, MVP candidate, right there, give me the runner up
for the MVP.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
You know he's gonna win it, right.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
No, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (36:06):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
I don't you said that. I just don't.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
This is a rough year. If you're Aaron Judge, it
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Going back to football, Uh, speaking of the foot, the
kicking game has been crazy, Rob, And you hadn't thought
about the fact that, like you were watching the game
last night, Aaron Rodgers, he throws it. Now, I'll make
a game winning drive and so he thought.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Well, but I but I never thought the game was
over there because of what I'm watching the NFL.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Now everybody has a chance.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
At the end of the game, Kelvin, it's this no
three and out or you stop the other team. And
it seems like it's easy to set.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Up a game winning field goal in the NFL? Is
it me? Are you know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 3 (37:07):
No, it seems real. So did little research.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
NFL kickers are seventy seven for one hundred and eight
on field goals fifty yards or longer.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
Rop that's seventy one percent.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
And so if you look back like just twenty years ago,
fifty yard field goals are so rare that there were
only forty eight of them all season.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
You gonna have to said you forty eight all season
or it got in left.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
We got big legs now.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
Right, So you would only see that point one percent
of the time per game point one zero point one.
Now again you're seeing it all the time. And here's
the last there's another one. NFL kickers are four for
eight from beyond sixty yards through six weeks, so we've
got four sixty yarders. In the NFL's first eighty six seasons,
(37:57):
there were a grand total of how many you think,
and eighty six years sixty yarders.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
In eighties sixty yarders. Uh, I don't know twenty four wow.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
Even eighty six years. We've got four in week six,
going in week seven.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
And I get that.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
But but but the idea that you can go set
up the field goal is what is unbelievable. Like last night,
I know, the Steelers defense was awful, so I wouldn't
even though they scored.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
I was like, oh, there's way too much time they're
going to march down.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
And you know, the Steelers weren't down, weren't up by four,
you know, even though they got you know, could have
scored a touchdown if they really wanted to, you know,
in that situation.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
But my point was, as I watched these games week
after week after week, I cannot get over how easy
it is to get yourself in position to score, uh,
to have a chance to kick a game winning field goal.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
It just seems like it's very easy. Now, well, you know.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
What else helps to and that's because of this this
this this new season of the new kicking game. You know,
we've had thirty two versions of kickoff returns lately. This
new version the first couple of weeks we were having
confusions right where kickers were kicking it, not in the zone.
So the team's getting the ball out at the thirty five,
forty whatever it is, and then sometimes guys would get
(39:18):
exactly where they want to get bigger returns than you
normally got, because remember the last handful of seasons, nobody
was really returning it, So you're starting off at the
twenty five, and then if you did return it, it
was hard. Guys are getting tackled at twenty to twenty five.
Now guys again are returning it, they're getting better, they're
getting out further and order kicking it out of bouncer
in bad spots, not the new field goals on. So
I do think that's played a role as well. But yeah,
(39:40):
you got listen, you always talk about a bloop and
a single.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
A bloop and a blast, A bloop and.
Speaker 4 (39:46):
A blast, I mean, and football you get the same
kind of a fifteen yard pass here, ten yard you know,
fifteen yard pass there, and how you got a field
over the other supposing forty you got a chance kick
a fifty seven yarder. So it is like that's why
I just think the game is slowly changing before eyes.
We're seeing a lot of people going for more fourth downs,
(40:08):
going for two, going for touchdowns instead of field goals
that we historically would say, oh, they're going to kick
a field goal here. Now we're going for the touchdown
because of the point what you just made right there.
Something happened in the same division that got a coach
madd he looked like a prophet.
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Aaron Hey, that's not what he said to the offensive lineman.
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Hopefully they don't listen to the show. They might have
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Speaker 1 (02:50):
Uh two to one, Toronto, my goodness, gracious, two to one,
trying to win three games in a row in Seattle
after losing the first two at home. And you remember
Seattle bashed them in game two, but they scored nine yeah,
in that game.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
And now they've been scuffling.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
How scared are the fans?
Speaker 6 (03:10):
Like, oh, you kidding?
Speaker 4 (03:11):
We good, we get it's a long games, it's a
sixth inning.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
I mean they got four bats. Okay, so there and
and the thing is, and I'm not trying to make
an excuse, but the Blue Jays have uh it's two
to one and it was one one. And if you're
a Seattle fan, you gotta say, well, we had to
score one run even we're gonna win the game, right
like you had to score you weren't gonna win one one.
(03:37):
So at some point they had to score a run. Okay,
Toronto scored a run. You gotta get a bloop in
the blast. You gotta do something here. Why can't they
just get a double in a single. It's unbelievable when
you come to the whole sason.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
I know, but that there in lies even listen to
our conversation. That's why are we.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Doing it exactly, which is that the Dodgers are not
going to win a World Series hitting the way that
they've hit.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
And I'm telling.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
You they've been very fortunate even in those games because
they've gotten unbelievable pitching.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Would you agree with that unbelievable?
Speaker 3 (04:14):
That's been remarkable.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
I have a feel, I mean, if it continues on
this this trend, we're gonna be like that will be
a conversation for decades to come.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
But I'm looking at it going.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
They've scored ten runs right in the three games, eight
have been knocked in.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Two came in.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
On a base I think a baseload of walking, one
on an era to pick off at first base. So
I'm gonna say they got eight runs right like the
old fashioned way. Eight runs in three games, which is
less than three runs a game. Now, that's great when
you're pitching. Is giving up one run a game, right,
So that's why you're up three to Oho. This series
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should not be three to Oho, to be honest, because
they haven't done enough damage. And when you look get
like show Hay, who I know let off for the
triple yesterday and that was good. But we saw Kelvi
when we watched the games every night, okay, and you
know we look at each other with some of these strikeouts.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
At one point, I don't know where he is now.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
So I'm gonna give you the number that I do
know for sure, not factoring in yesterday, right, but he
had struck out fifteen out of thirty four bats. That's
that show hal tany fifteen out of thirty four bats.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
He's been like, what is he bad? In one, fifty, one, forty.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
It's bad. It's bad. He got that triple yesterday, but
it's bad.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
But it's been bad and a lot of other guys
aren't hitting. There's not a lot of hitting going on
for the Dodgers. They've gotten a couple of timely hits.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
What you need.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
You got a home run by Freddie Freeman, which is big,
but it hasn't been an explosion and maybe it will.
But I'm just saying, when you look at Toronto the
way they swing the bats, say, if it's Toronto in
the World Series, you're gonna have to score some runs.
Would you agree with that? Like, like I know you
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want to believe that they're gonna get a shutout or
give up one run every night.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
I just don't think that you can live off of that.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
You gotta manufacture score more runs, get some timely hits.
The playoffs are always about starting pitching, right mm hm,
timely hitting and and and you know, and and and
and and.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
They need to do that. They just they just haven't
done enough of it.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
They haven't. There's no argument. They would not sit here.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Yeah, even even though they're eight and one, they wouldn't
sit up here and be like, we're playing amazing baseball right.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
This is last year, right.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
Dave Roberts is just you know, his said, the bulk
of our strength right now and our success is our
starting pitching. And this is why I I will disagree
with your sentiment specifically this team and theory. I get
what you're saying. The reason I just agree with you
specifically what the Dodgers is because it's not like they
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have two good guys, like two big time aces and
then a guy you know, he's mid but you know,
you hope you get back to your starter, like maybe
you're the Tigers or something like that, or a handful
of other teams where you got a guy or two
and then it's you're just hoping to get back to them.
They legitimately have four starters and that is where they
are the difference. Like, Okay, yes, Toronto or the Mariners
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have hitting the ball pretty well, but we know in
the postseason if I got guys that I can go
out there six, seven, maybe eight innings, that's just a
lot to deal with. That changes your approach and it
changes your mentality. For if you're the hitters of the
other posing teams, and specifically with the Dodgers' offense, they
have the luxury of getting it right because the score
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stays low for them because they're their starters are doing
so well that they feel like, I'm gonna get that
timely hit at some point, and they have they get
the timely hit because they're too deep.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Dude, eventually maximum he's gonna do.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
And who thought that Max Munty will be the all
time leader in Dodgers postseason history. Then you got, of
course home runs, home runs, specifically home runs, yeah, my bet.
Then Mookie Bets, who has been actually performing well throughout
the postseason. Will Smith, Freddie Freddie Freeman Taoskar Hernandez. There's
too many bats and when the score remains low, one
of those guys.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Are gonna get a time to hit.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
I agree, they're not gonna score maybe six seven runs,
but they're gonna get a hit or two, or you're
gonna have to walk show hey, and Mookie's gonna get
a double and he's gonna score. It's just they have
too many guys rob in that lineup that I agree.
They're not putting up big, gaudy numbers, but they get
enough timely offense.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
That's why they're keep one.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Here's the thing, and here's where I disagree, is you're
playing a dangerous game where every pitcher has to be
almost perfect in order for you to win, because all
it takes is a bloop and a blast and you
could have lost. The Dodgers could be down to to
one because they just haven't scored a lot of runs.
Even yesterday when they won, it was one to one
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and they got two runs on a pick a bad
pickoff and a and another play.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Do you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Like yesterday could have easily turned and been a win
for the Brewers had they got a couple of hits
or or things that or they played clean of baseball
and didn't throw the ball around and throw the ball away.
So you're not while it looks overwhelming one way three
to nothing, they were. They lost Game one two to
one and ended the game with the bases loaded against
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the bullpen.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Am I right?
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Like, so there's two games out.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Of the three that the Brewers were right there, and
that's what I'm saying, Like, offensively, they gotta get it going.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
What's what's the number for you?
Speaker 4 (09:43):
Like that that you were saying, It's like no, I'm
really no, Just like like you say, X amount of
runs is a offensive explosion to get to if they could.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Get six runs or something, sure, and they had five
in Game two. But I'm saying, you're playing a dangerous
game where your pitcher feels like he has to almost
pitch seven or eight innings and can only give up
no runs or one run. Do you know, like that's
a that's a hard thing to do the entire time.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Here's here's the here's the benchmark.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
The reason I ask you that because I'm looking at
last year's scores and what they're gonna have to do,
I think is get around where they were then, so
I meaning it can't be one, two, maybe three runs.
Last season in the World Series against obviously the Yankees,
they had six runs.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Four runs, four runs, four runs, and then seven runs.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
This is what I'm saying, like, look at those numbers, okay,
and this one it was two to one. They won
the game one game two five to one. That was
a good win right there and everything. Uh, and then
they won three to what was it yesterday?
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Three to one? A four to one. I'm just.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
It was three I believe was it? Look? I think
it was three if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Maybe they attacked up run on late? Was it four?
Speaker 1 (10:55):
But you get My point is that at one point, uh,
they haven't scored.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
They scored ten runs.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Yeah it was three one yesterday it was three one.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
It was okay, so you look at that, Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
That's right because that's ten runs, right, and two of
them came the non traditional way. As what I'm saying, like,
they knocked in eight. That's less than three runs a game.
In none of those World Series games did they have
three runs or less than three runs.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
The production is down, That's what I'm saying to you.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Well, I know I ain't no denying that.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
And a large part of that is you're expecting Showhy
doesn't have to be you know, all world but he's not.
He's performing at this level of you know, of ineptitwoe.
But but what I'm saying is if they can get
the four runs three of the three of the five
games at four runs last World Series four runs, it's
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very doable with that offensive line and then four shit suffice,
with the way those pitchers are pitching. Now, you might
lose a game they have a big game either you
lose seven to four. But I'm saying that pitching is
at a level right now that I think we're gonna
be having conversations for the next decades.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Remember that.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
But on just five, we're also looking at a juggernaut.
The Blue Jays beat up the Yankee pitching. The Blue
Jays have beat up the Mariners since they went to Seattle.
All I'm saying is if it's Toronto, they haven't been
scoring three runs or less. They have been bald swinging bats,
is what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
But I get the pitching.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Yeah, but the Phillies that had some you know, big bats,
and they they only had they went three. Then they
had a big game eight. But then they go to one.
You know, the Brewers beat they had the best record
in all baseball. They had a bunch of guys who
just hit pretty well. Two runs, they.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Got one run, one run, one run. So like, I understand,
they have big bats.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
But I'm saying, where the Blue Jays are swinging the
bat right now?
Speaker 2 (12:46):
That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
No, I know, but I'm mentioning these teams who have
had better offensive performances and they just have not been
able to produce against the Dodgers. So I told listen,
if I'm the Dodgers, I'm not coming into this going boy,
I tell you I want to win every game to
the one, three to one. But I'm saying that's a
wonderful thing to have in my back pocket, that my
starters will keep the game right around two.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
One is here's the other thing that you're not taking
a consideration. And I hear you.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
If you bring a bullpen, Okay, there you.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Go in the bullpen, which almost blue Game one after this,
brilliant stay focused will be talking about Okay, there you go,
stay focused.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
If you ring it the bullpen, I ain't got much
of it.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
They've been better, obviously, but we've seen horrible for the
last month from them.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
So that's end of the regular season.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
No doubt.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
And finally Seattle is threatening two more, two out, sixth inning,
two for twenty nine with runners in scoring position, and
they got a man on second.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Here's your key hit. You know what I mean that.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
You need at some points moment you can't.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Make, you gotta you gotta be able to knock in
runs during these time.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Uh So it's a it's a tough moment.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
There for people who's a Dodger fans. Probably according to him,
this has been terrible baseball.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Remember, he's like, I don't like he's gotta be a
bunch of runs.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
So he's been enjoying the ALCS versus the NLCS holds
out all right.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven
nine nine six sixty three sixty nine. Is the Dodger
offense good enough to win a World Series? The offense
good enough we know the pitching is or is the
pitching so good that it won't even matter?
Speaker 2 (14:22):
We'll continue that conversation next with you.
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All right, Dodgers pitching has been spectacular. Is the offense
gonna scare you? And it's not good enough to win
a World Series rock success? I think the pitch is
good enough to get it done. What's say you? Eight seven,
seven ninety nine one?
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Fox? Who we got?
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Let's kick it off with Sean in Sacramento. You're on
the couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
What's up?
Speaker 6 (16:15):
Sean?
Speaker 8 (16:16):
Yeah? From another because Kobe, my brother's dying the board.
I'm a what up?
Speaker 6 (16:23):
Though? Rob?
Speaker 8 (16:24):
Come on, man, are you really trying to criticize it
hitting while hit? They are putting on a clinic. I
thought you was an old school baseball hair Rod.
Speaker 6 (16:33):
It's a shade of Doc.
Speaker 8 (16:35):
In the eighties, putting guys down from the first to
the eighth and then if he has to. Man, they
don't have a bona fie closer. They've shown they can't
do anything, you know, with the with the bullpans, so
you might as well let these pictures rock. Who cares
if it's a two to one game, man, you forget.
On the other side, the Brewers don't exactly got bad
pitching over there. They were number one in the entire
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n OL.
Speaker 6 (16:56):
For a reason.
Speaker 8 (16:56):
So for you to come out here criticize it, oh
Tani and lifting up the entire team for being great.
Speaker 6 (17:02):
Look at what tay Oscar is doing.
Speaker 8 (17:04):
Looking what edmunds.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Averaging less than three runs a game. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
Look at time, score.
Speaker 8 (17:14):
Three runs and be in the playoffs, than be Aaron Judge.
Speaker 6 (17:16):
At home not hitting any run.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Nobody, Why are you gotta bring up Aaron Judge?
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Nobody see Sewan, Nobody brought up Aaron Judge.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
The Yankees are out of it. We're not talking about
the Yankees.
Speaker 6 (17:29):
I'm just saying you.
Speaker 9 (17:32):
What the Dodgers doing right now?
Speaker 6 (17:35):
Man?
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Oh man, all right, Sean, get off the phone.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Ain't right. But I'm still riding. How long that's right?
Speaker 4 (17:42):
How long did you cover your buddy Joe Dumars's Pistons.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
What do you mean? I was there the whole run,
right there when Joe was a player.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Right. So my point is, remember that Pistons team.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
They wasn't gonna light you up one hundred and twenty points,
but they was gonna lock you down. That's what the
Dodgers still run out, ain't scoring eight, but we hold you.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Was saying is if they're going to face the Blue Jays,
who are swinging a hot bat, they're gonna need you.
That's why I'm not bringing up any of this for
any other reason other than a team that you could
potentially be facing who are up two to one in
the seventh inning in Seattle.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
If they win this.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Ball, why can't they stifle them too?
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Okay, but you don't have a great bullpen, which is
which is why I'm bringing up the.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Point I don't And there you go. So that's what
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
And the likelihood that you're gonna get seven or eight
innings out of every starter just is not realistic.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
That's what I'm trying to say to you.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
I don't know these starters. I mean, we you and I.
They're a historic run right now. It's absolutely crazy.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
But yeah, if I can get four out of them,
I think four is it's still low, but it's obviously
more than what they've been getting lately.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Kevin in Culver City, you're on the couple of Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
What's up, Kevin?
Speaker 3 (18:54):
God is good all the time, Kevin, I.
Speaker 9 (18:58):
Got something to say right now, Rob, when you talked
about this on Monday.
Speaker 6 (19:03):
I was gonna tell you, Hey.
Speaker 9 (19:04):
There was a guy named Blake Snell who didn't play
against the Brewers. There's a guy by the name of
Max Musky din't play against the Bruises. That's why they
beat him six times in the regular.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Mookie played.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Did come on man, stop with dad that they didn't
beat them because those guys were missing. They beat up
on the Dodgers, just admit it.
Speaker 9 (19:24):
But look, give them a credit. This is the best
team statistically record wise, the Brewers in the regular season, yes.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
But look at what they do in the postseason. Look
at the postseason.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
All I'm saying is Game one ended with the bases loaded.
Capt be honest, they could have easily lost that game yesterday.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
It was one one in the seventh.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
It took a bad throw and a misplay to get
you those runs to win that game.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
That's all I'm saying to you.
Speaker 6 (19:52):
I'm agreeing with you.
Speaker 9 (19:53):
But you got four aces, you got snail, you got
glass now o Tani and you got Yamamola. Here's a
see timely hitting. The mess was dusting players off yesterday.
But the timely hitting of Tommy Hitney, that's clutch hitting.
That's gotta mean something. The Oscar Hernandez, the three run
homer against Philly, that's gotta mean something. Oh Tony the.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Home runner, Will Smith, Will Smith something clutch hitting.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
I get the timely hitting.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
I'm just saying, do they have enough to face the
juggernaut that is the Toronto Blue Jays Offensively? You're going
to shut them down the one runner game like you
did the that office.
Speaker 6 (20:34):
That offense is something differ.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Scary right now. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 9 (20:38):
They're very deep, but I think the Dodgers can be
up for We saw the fraise Freeman, Dinna get this boy,
Judge left left bro my boy on the World Series stage.
You know that you're gonna come to play and so short.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
All right, all right, I'm so tired of Hey, rob
By the way I'm looking at South here, make sure
I'll get this right.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Uh best so itsus.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
The blue Jays and the Dodgers were one and two
in hitting, So I mean, it's.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Not like the Blue Jays are doing now though look
at their postseason number.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
But they're doing it to the Mariners. They ain't doing
it to Yamamoto.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
They did it, okay, doing it.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
You know, they're not doing it too rop They're not
doing it to a billion dollars worth a pitching and show.
Hey and Yamamoto. Not to mention Blake stand not to
mention baseball people out there know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
It's like it's working now, but two of those three
games where you got well pitched games, you needed a
little luck to even win those and they went your way.
But it might not go your way in the next
series if you don't start getting it.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
I'm not disagreeing, that's all I say. You're walking around like, hey,
we're gonna win evergame to one. I do think, But
I do think you're under selling. Maybe the they get
the right hit when they need it, and it's not
Grand Slams all the time.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
It's not six inning five you know, fifth sixth.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
I get it.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
They get just enough, all right. We got Sean King
on the other side of trending right now. Steve de
Seger is gonna get you updated.
Speaker 10 (22:14):
Steve Let's update. Game five of the American League Championship Series.
The series tied at two, and at the moment at Seattle,
the Blue Jays are leading the Mariners two to one.
In the bottom of the seventh inning, All Star pitcher
Brian wu of the Mariners returned to the roster this round.
He's been out a month with pictorial inflammation. Went fifteen
and seven regular season, allowed to go ahead run in
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the six The bad news for Toronto Blue Jays DH
George Springer is injured a left hit by a pitch
on the knee. Had a hard time walking afterwards. This
is the guy who hit three hundred with thirty homers
this year and has plenty of playoff experience. Blue Jays
looking to go home with a three games to two
lead after tonight. Game six is Sunday night at Toronto
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on f S one. Toronto rookie pitcher Tray Savage, we'll
start that game. It's Game four the NL Championship Series
in La. Tonight just a few minutes from first pitch show,
hey Otani on the mound against Milwaukee's Jose Kintana, who's
barely pitched after a strain calf mid September. He went
eleven and seven this year. Milwaukee outfielder Jackson s Curio
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returns from the hamstring cramp of yesterday. The Brewers have
lost nine straight postseason games on the road. The record
is twelve straight. Milwaukee was seated number one overall for
these playoffs after ninety seven wins in the regular season.
San Francisco tight end George Kittle will return Sunday night
after a torn hamstring. On opening day, San Francisco will
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host Atlanta. Forty nine Ers quarterback brock Perty out again
with a toe injury. Mac Jones will start. Vikings QB
JJ McCarthy is still out with the bad ankle. Carson
Wentz will start against Philadelphia. Arizona quarterback Kyler Murray is
questionable against Green Bay with his foot injury, but wide
receiver Marvin Harrison Junior practice fully after last week's can cut.
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Wide receiver for Dallas, Cede Lamb returns this weekend after
the bad ankle, but defensive back Trayvon Diggs is out.
He's in concussion protocol after an accident at his home.
Washington wide receiver Terry McLaurin is still out for the
game at Dallas due to his quad entry. Wide receiver
Deebo Samuel questionable with the Bruce Seals. Sunday's game is
on Fox TV and in college football right now halftime.
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Louisville leads at number two ranked Miami fourteen to ten.
Carson Beck has thrown two interceptions late first quarter and scoreless.
On Fox TV. Number twenty five Nebraska is at Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Back to you II, Steve, thank you appreciate this taka.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
But Rob Parker Jove of Washington, you see Donkey flashback Friday.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
What's that?
Speaker 6 (24:43):
It like?
Speaker 2 (24:44):
A ball?
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Was almost out as a home run, but it was
called just foul. My god, for Seattle went down the
left field line. They challenged it and it was called
foul originally, and it's still foul.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
All right, keep you updated on that throughout the game.
They're sitting at the bottom of the seventh all right.
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Speaker 3 (25:16):
We're down with the King. Sean King, former.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
NFL quarterback, Fox Sports Radio NFL analyst Real Sean King.
Speaker 6 (25:22):
What's up man, Brewers in seventh?
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Wow?
Speaker 4 (25:26):
Wow, that's a hot tea. My headphones weren't working. I
thought you said Brewers in seven. I couldn't hear you.
Speaker 6 (25:32):
That's Brewers in seven.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Stop it.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
That is a hot tag.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
You do know they'd have.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
To go back through that starting lineup again, starting pictures again.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Hey, let me say this to you, Sean after last
night's ICEE Hot Bowl, are you ready to return to
the NFL and play quarterback?
Speaker 6 (25:49):
I mean what I am is if I go back,
I don't want to go to the Cleveland Browns boys
functional organization. Mate, Joe Flack, what'd you make of that?
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Last night?
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Those were two guys man Aaron Rodgers and Joe Flyco
put on a show that was that was an entertaining
game there.
Speaker 6 (26:09):
It really was And what I would do is if
I was coaching in the NFL, I would break down
the film and show it to my young quarterback.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Then you go go ahead, tell Calvin, tell them go ahead.
Speaker 6 (26:20):
I would show the young quarterback that this is what
I tell you, the quarterback position in rhythm on time
with breatball.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Thank you right.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
You know the best part about this is, Sean, Wait,
who are you showing to take to the gear?
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Who are you showing to take young quarterbacks?
Speaker 2 (26:39):
The guys who can't play?
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Right? But wait, you're showing it to young quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Why?
Speaker 4 (26:43):
Because they're the ones playing, They're the ones starting. No
nobody want Joe Flack.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
They do, and showing my point is this is why
older guys get to stick around, because they know how
to play the position. There's fifteen teams that need a quarterback,
and what if they could upgrade. There's so many bad
quarterbacks in the league?
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Am I role?
Speaker 6 (27:03):
And for context? I wouldn't do it as a we
can replace you. I would do it as a teaching tool.
So for kind of a visual representation of what I'm
talking about. When the coordinator calls plays and the ball
comes out when it's supposed to the person it's supposed
to go to, and it's a catchable football. That's why
I feel like a lot of these young quarterbacks struggle
(27:25):
because so much of what they do is throwing screens,
throwing RPOs, running around trying to create explosive plays. They
never get really good at just throwing the ball in
rhythm from the pocket. And that's what you saw last night, right.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
And they did a great job of that.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
And you mentioned too, I brought up I mean, you're
looking at Joe Flacco two touchdown, six interceptions with the Browns,
now he's got five hundred or six hundred yards in
two games with the Bengos, totally bringing out, you know,
the best version of him. I want to go to
some of the games we got coming up this weekend,
start here with good.
Speaker 6 (27:57):
Can I make one more point from that game last night?
I would also show my quarterbacks, whoever is Jamar Chase
is this is what you do from a decision making
standpoint when we get manned and man and I thought
Floco would get an excellent job of throwing the ball
to his best receiver in man situations. If I had Jalen,
(28:19):
I would show Jalen that tape. If I had, you know, Jackson,
I know million Namhbers is hurt, But if I had
some of these young guys, I would show them what
a veteran does when you have an elite player at
wide receiver. I would show it that JJ McCarthy. Listen,
when we get maned and we got Jefferson matched up,
he's just as good as Chase throwing the ball.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
Yeah, and you shouldn't have to convince him either. Right,
those dudes are insanely talented. Let me go here, Sean,
I'm looking at this game right here, Eagles at Vikings.
It's a big game for both teams obviously as they
continue to try to, you know, rise up the NFC ranks.
But Vikings defense, we know has been good Carson Wentz,
you know, little maybe get back game an old team
(29:00):
that had them.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
What are you looking at from this one? From the Eagles?
Speaker 4 (29:03):
We know offensively they've been struggling bottom of the league
and running bottom of the league and passing, and they're
going up against a really good Brian Florence defense. They
been hearing the noise, to be hearing all the arguments
and players meetings.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
What are they gonna do to this week.
Speaker 6 (29:18):
I'm on the Vikings in this game, like I'm fading
the Eagles until I see something different. It's interest in
the body language of the Eagles looks a lot like
the body language of the Ravens. And this happens in
pro sports. When everybody's gotten paid, it starts being a
lot harder to self analyze and self evaluate, to really
(29:38):
focus on doing your job, you know. And I think
that's the worst fear with the Eagles, even when they
were undefeated, when you look at the the inside the stats,
they they were getting outstaated, but that they were kind
of getting fortunate, you know. Block field goal here, blockfield.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Goals, it's called that's called football, man, You know what, Sean,
I take exception to that. And I'm gonna be honest
because I hear that all the time, you know. And
and it's about winning and losing. We could do that
all day. Tom Brady fumbled the ball against the Raiders.
Guess what, Tom Brady has a Super Bowl off that play, right,
(30:13):
We could do that. I've seen it over and over.
We could do that with everybody. It's still about wins
and losses. And if we're gonna play that game, I
could take away so many Super Bowls from people and
situations and NBA finals because they had three players injured
and Bill Buckner had a ball go through his legs.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
You know what I mean. I could do that all day.
Speaker 6 (30:35):
I guess my my pushback for you would be did
the Raiders outstat the Pats in that game? No?
Speaker 1 (30:40):
But my point is I'm just saying, like the idea that, oh,
well the Eagles they got a black field goal, No,
that that's football.
Speaker 6 (30:47):
Yeah they did, but I put I put contacts on
by saying they were outstatic, which means the opposition had
more total yards of offense.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
If that doesn't win games. It's about how many points
you score. You could have as many statue you want.
Speaker 6 (31:01):
It speaks to the process, though, right. The process matters
in sports, whether it be football, whether it be basketball
in the NBA. If you have a game where you
shoot twenty of twenty five from three, you're probably gonna win.
But that's not sustainable over a long period of time.
So all I'm saying is the efficiency that the Eagles
have operated with at times, especially running the football, playing
(31:23):
great field position, you know, situational football. I didn't see
that this year that they're not running the football at
the level they were.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
I understand that. I'm not.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
I just don't whenever I hear about, oh, they're a
block pour of b lock field goal and something else
away from having only two wins or what but whatever,
But you could do that the other way.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
You can do it.
Speaker 6 (31:43):
The source matters. This isn't coming from some talking head.
This is coming from I guess you have on your
show that played and coached. So I'm giving you my perspective,
my perceptive of my perception of what I'm seeing. Can
they fix it? Yes? My point is until I see
them fix it, I'm gonna face it.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
So you're saying the Eagles are not going to make
the playoffs and they're a bad team.
Speaker 6 (32:06):
No, you can't ever say that. The national Football leage
at this point in the season. It's too much.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Football, right, there's a lot to go.
Speaker 6 (32:12):
Okay, Yeah, they're just not as efficient as they have
been in the previous seasons. So until I see that efficiency,
I'm gonna fave them.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Okay, if the Jets lose again and they get embarrassed,
I can't let it go. Because Aaron Glenn was he knows,
he knows everything, and he's gonna set up the culture
and he's kicking he cut two part returners or whatever,
kickoff returners, all that minutia and stuff that doesn't matter
(32:39):
if they get blown out again.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Where are you, Aaron Glenn?
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Just you're gonna let them ride it out for the
next year or so, or do you look at it
and have to reevaluate and say, what's going on here?
Speaker 2 (32:49):
They shouldn't be this bad. They got some players, don't they.
Speaker 6 (32:52):
Well, if you're asking me what happens in the NFL,
look at the Patriots last year. They felt like they
made a bad higher with Mayo and give him an
opportunity to fix it. They switched the vrabel Uh, we'll
see if the jet channeled the same way. If I
did it, I would feel like I hired the right guy,
and I'm gonna give him time to get the culture changed,
(33:13):
to get the roster situated in a way that he
wants and likes, and give him a chance to succeed.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Sean, let me say this to you.
Speaker 6 (33:20):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Let me say this. I hear your point, and for
the most part, a lot of GMS would go your
way because you don't want to admit that you're wrong.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Okay, that you that you made a mistake.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
But sometimes and and Joe Dumore said this in Detroit,
and I.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Agree with it.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
It's not about being right, it's about getting it right.
Nathaniel Hackett they knew right away wasn't a head coach.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
They didn't give him another year.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
And you know, Gerard hold the Mayo, they didn't think
that he was the guy, so they.
Speaker 6 (33:53):
And Rob he makes a good point. But I think
the thing that we don't know how is Aaron Glenn
handling things and pernally a lot of times that God
can have a lot of ideas about will what will
work and what won't work, and then he gets in
that position and he's finding out that those ideas were
the right ideas. Now, the guys that are gonna be
really good head coaches, you know what behind the scenes
(34:14):
are like, Okay, I thought this, but we gotta adjust it.
We gotta do this. We gotta manipulate this part so
that this part can be less of a deficiency. We
don't know that part of what's going on.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
Sean, can't our guests here on the Odd Couple, Sean,
we appreciate man we're up against it as always.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
You gotta quit guarantee or anything.
Speaker 6 (34:33):
Uh yes, I'm going Detroit Lions big on Monday Night.
Terrible spot for my bucks and we're banged up. Lions
are coming off a loss. I hate this spot for us.
We're gonna knock them out the playoffs, but they're gonna
they're on wood shut us Monday night.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
I like that, but man, that worries me with our
branch too. That's a big loss for the Lions. Appreciate you, Sean.
Speaker 6 (34:52):
Thank you segment. This isn't long enough.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
I know, I know we gotta and we gotta work
on that. Man, we do gotta work on that.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
Appreciate all right field goals making it easy to win games.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
The game has changed. We'll talk about it.
Speaker 5 (35:07):
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Speaker 1 (35:21):
Double wow, did you see what happened? No, cal Rawley
tied the game for Seattle. Reliever came in a little
and he came up with Gito. He fell behind two oh.
Steve was at a two o count. It was two.
We fell behind two. Oh, he had to throw a fastball. Wow,
(35:44):
and Cal left the building. It is tied to two
in Seattle in the bottom of the eighth. What a
big shot. That was unbelievable. That's play on baseball right.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
There, MVP candidate, right there, give me the runner up
for the MVP.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
You know he's gonna win it, right.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
No, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (36:06):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
I don't you said that. I just don't.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
This is a rough year. If you're Aaron Judge, it
makes like you should be winning it. But I just
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Speaker 4 (36:31):
Going back to football, Uh, speaking of the foot, the
kicking game has been crazy, Rob, And you hadn't thought
about the fact that, like you were watching the game
last night, Aaron Rodgers, he throws it. Now, I'll make
a game winning drive and so he thought.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Well, but I but I never thought the game was
over there because of what I'm watching the NFL.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Now everybody has a chance.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
At the end of the game, Kelvin, it's this no
three and out or you stop the other team. And
it seems like it's easy to set.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Up a game winning field goal in the NFL? Is
it me? Are you know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 3 (37:07):
No, it seems real. So did little research.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
NFL kickers are seventy seven for one hundred and eight
on field goals fifty yards or longer.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
Rop that's seventy one percent.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
And so if you look back like just twenty years ago,
fifty yard field goals are so rare that there were
only forty eight of them all season.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
You gonna have to said you forty eight all season
or it got in left.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
We got big legs now.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
Right, So you would only see that point one percent
of the time per game point one zero point one.
Now again you're seeing it all the time. And here's
the last there's another one. NFL kickers are four for
eight from beyond sixty yards through six weeks, so we've
got four sixty yarders. In the NFL's first eighty six seasons,
(37:57):
there were a grand total of how many you think,
and eighty six years sixty yarders.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
In eighties sixty yarders. Uh, I don't know twenty four wow.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
Even eighty six years. We've got four in week six,
going in week seven.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
And I get that.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
But but but the idea that you can go set
up the field goal is what is unbelievable. Like last night,
I know, the Steelers defense was awful, so I wouldn't
even though they scored.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
I was like, oh, there's way too much time they're
going to march down.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
And you know, the Steelers weren't down, weren't up by four,
you know, even though they got you know, could have
scored a touchdown if they really wanted to, you know,
in that situation.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
But my point was, as I watched these games week
after week after week, I cannot get over how easy
it is to get yourself in position to score, uh,
to have a chance to kick a game winning field goal.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
It just seems like it's very easy. Now, well, you know.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
What else helps to and that's because of this this
this this new season of the new kicking game. You know,
we've had thirty two versions of kickoff returns lately. This
new version the first couple of weeks we were having
confusions right where kickers were kicking it, not in the zone.
So the team's getting the ball out at the thirty five,
forty whatever it is, and then sometimes guys would get
(39:18):
exactly where they want to get bigger returns than you
normally got, because remember the last handful of seasons, nobody
was really returning it, So you're starting off at the
twenty five, and then if you did return it, it
was hard. Guys are getting tackled at twenty to twenty five.
Now guys again are returning it, they're getting better, they're
getting out further and order kicking it out of bouncer
in bad spots, not the new field goals on. So
I do think that's played a role as well. But yeah,
(39:40):
you got listen, you always talk about a bloop and
a single.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
A bloop and a blast, A bloop and.
Speaker 4 (39:46):
A blast, I mean, and football you get the same
kind of a fifteen yard pass here, ten yard you know,
fifteen yard pass there, and how you got a field
over the other supposing forty you got a chance kick
a fifty seven yarder. So it is like that's why
I just think the game is slowly changing before eyes.
We're seeing a lot of people going for more fourth downs,
(40:08):
going for two, going for touchdowns instead of field goals
that we historically would say, oh, they're going to kick
a field goal here. Now we're going for the touchdown
because of the point what you just made right there.
Something happened in the same division that got a coach
madd he looked like a prophet.
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