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January 14, 2025 37 mins

Rob and Kelvin discuss whether or not it’s possible for a team like the Los Angeles Rams to play for something even bigger than themselves in a postseason setting and tell us why the Deion Sanders-Dallas Cowboys rumors seem too good to be true. Plus, The Athletic’s Jon Machota swings by to discuss the Deion-to-Dallas rumors, why he wouldn’t be shocked to see Jason Witten in the mix to be their head coach at some point, what makes the NFC East such a tough division and much more! Finally, the Odd Couple Callers bring the heat in this week’s edition of Trash Talk.

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Speaker 2 (01:27):
Big Facts.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
You heard Matthew Stafford had to say about to get
the big win last night. I mean they man, they
made Minnesota between the Lions and the Rams, boy, they
made Minnesota look like a pedestrian team. But a big
win for the Rams as they start the season off
bad at one point one and four and able to
get to the postseason. Now I gotta win a weird
home win and that it was in Arizula. But here's

(01:49):
what he had to say about what this season meant
for them and what they're playing for. He basically said,
they're playing for something more than just themselves. Obviously, anybody's
living under has known that we are dealing with the
wildfires here in Los Angeles in southern California, and he
said that there's something they're playing for. They know what's
going on this or they're part of the community. Some

(02:10):
of them have you know, family members and friends who
are dealing with this, some of them themselves, and so
he's just the idea that they're playing for more than
just simply us. Being the Rams playing a playoff game,
and the conversation is becomes can that really happen?

Speaker 2 (02:26):
Can you be playing for something more?

Speaker 4 (02:28):
There are times when there's some extra motivation for a team,
for an individual athlete, and I do subscribe to that.
I think that does happen from time to time, where
there's extra motivation, where there's something that has you extra focus,
something that takes your game to the best of your ability.
And in some cases it can be things like Kobe

(02:48):
Bryant's passing with the Lakers obviously dedicate that season to him.
I look at even examples of a singular sport when
Buster Douglas lost his mother and he got in the
best shape of his life. You know get she died
right before the fight and he dedicated himself to getting
in shape fighting for his mother and obviously ultimately beat
up Mike Tyson. There are examples of this happening. Obviously,

(03:12):
the end result is what you may go to like
did they win or did they lose? For me, the
question is can you have something bigger? Can that be
something that you're focused on, something that drives you more.
The answer is yes, And ultimately you don't know if
you're gonna win or not. But absolutely there are scenarios
when an individual athlete or team is playing for something
much more, playing for something much bigger.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
And you know where we also see that a lot.

Speaker 4 (03:34):
I mean, obviously, you and I we cover the pro leagues,
that's mostly what we do, college too, but you see
it a lot in schools you don't necessarily know of,
and colleges you don't necessarily know of. High school teams,
and that's where you get a lot of these movies
e sixties and thirty for thirties of teams, people communities
coming together for a bigger and larger cause. So I

(03:55):
do subscribe to That doesn't mean it's gonna always work,
but I do do believe that it gives you an
extra motivation and an extra fuel to fight for. And
I think it happens, you know, and obviously the Rams
are fighting for something all right now, for the city
of La Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
I don't want to rain on your parade and I
use around here. Yeah, that's true, and I get it.
And what Stafford said is fine, And I'm not trying
to be a Debbie downer, but I just this is
a common storyline that I've heard I've been covering sports
almost forty years. I've heard this a million times. After
nine to eleven, shouldn't the Yankees have won the World

(04:31):
Series where New York went through. They didn't stop Arizona
from beating Mariano Rivera in the ninth inning and winning
the World Series. Not that I'm not saying they were
wearing the new NYPD hats and the and the fire Department.
And the first response was a story like it should
it should have been that you want to talk about

(04:52):
Tyner story in a bow that the year that the
Twin Towers come down in New York, that the Yankees
win the World it didn't happen.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
Current Hurricane Katrina.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
I remember that, Oh my god, this is this would
be awesome for the Saints to win, you know, go
to the super Bowl and all that, and guess what
Chicago bears like, We're going to the super Bowl where
we played better, we won, and we're going and even
all of the lowercase, you know, not the pros. For
every story of somebody playing for their grandmother, there's nobody

(05:24):
on the other team playing for their grandmother.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
They didn't win.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
Everybody can't win, despite what you and we never hear
those stories.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
This is the part.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
It's the same thing, like, oh, he gave them bullpit
bulletin board material.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
Right.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
I wish somebody would give me the official count of
when somebody said something and bulletin board material and what's
the right and they do you see what I'm saying,
it's and I'm not saying what Stafford did. And I
get it. My god, what's happened here in Los Angeles.
I've lived there for nine years. This is my home.

(05:59):
When I watched the video old to go on social media,
it's heartbreak. I'm heartbroken. But do what And for the
Rams to say that they're dedicating their playing for Los
Angeles sounds great, but I'm just saying it doesn't. I
wish we could look at everything and say it would
fuel everybody to win for the city or whatever. And
that's why I bring up I was working in New
York during that.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
You know, I was at the World Series. I should say,
but you do keep saying one thing, the World Series.
What I'm saying they didn't make it to the World No, no, no,
But I'm just saying it would have been that they
want I get the Disney, get the Disney movie. I
get what you say. They made it in the World Series,
they won it. My whole point is, but there isn't.
So when you get to athletics, oftentimes it comes down

(06:44):
to that one extra oomh that time when you're tired,
like dog, I just subconsciously, even you don't even mean to,
you're like, I ain't got it no more.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
But I guess that.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
But I'm just saying, but you don't think there's the
flip side where there are other guys. It's just like
when I hear guys at the end of the game. Uh,
you know, so we pray, thank God, and then the
other thing they didn't pray. I know, we laugh about that,
like we laugh about that because like God, the other
team didn't get on their knees and pray. They didn't
pray for God either, and God picked the team and said,
you prayed harder, so you won the game.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
I thank God as the other team as a person.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
You don't know.

Speaker 4 (07:18):
There could be more players on the other team who
got let me see them one. They got twelve dudes
praying over there, eight twelve.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
I gotta go with them.

Speaker 4 (07:27):
Yeah's lost because the quarterback through three picks, not God them.
As a believer myself, I also believe God oftentimes goes, hey, y'all,
it's on the field, do your thing like I've given you, y'all,
go play, but in a different instance taking God out
of it. What I mean is I do believe again
there's something extra, And that's why I bring up a
Buster Douglas.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
Right.

Speaker 4 (07:48):
Buster Douglas was a middling and the heavyweight kind of
flying around. But there are times when you can tap
into something inside of yourself. Michael Jordan himself, Rob would
bring up a Rob Parker will up, Hey, how you doing, Mike, which, Hey,
I heard you had said something by my mom, my sister,
my wife.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
What Mike, I don't even know you, But what are
you talking about?

Speaker 4 (08:07):
He find an extra fuel, extra energy, extra animosity to
go at you tonight, put forty on your head and
you're like, I ain't even say nothing to you. And
so my point is you can tap into a source.
Sometimes it's just those one little things. It's just that
one better play. You did that one extra op to
get that extra yard, that one little other, get that tackle.
And I think they're tapping into that right now. And

(08:28):
again I'm not saying the end results. Now they're going
to Super Bowl, they're gonna beat you know, the Egos
or the Lions, I mean the uh, you know, the
Ravens or the Bills or something. I'm just saying, I
do believe there are times when you can tap into
something greater than yourself and it absolutely feeds you, absolutely
gives you fuel. And I one thousand percent believe that
happens every time. At times every.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
Time if they lose the next game is because of
what is it because they weren't really dedicated to Los
Angeles or because the other team just beat them.

Speaker 4 (08:55):
No, but I think they're missing the fact that you
can be doing something for something that is it mean
you determine the outcome, meaning.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
I'm saying something bigger. I get that.

Speaker 4 (09:04):
So we're because we're almost having like two different conversations.
I'm saying, I firmly believe that there's added fuel and
there's something that can take your game to the next
level when certain crises happen. You're saying kind of it
doesn't mean guarantee the result, and that I would agree.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
I just I think that we look at stuff sometimes
and overanalyze it or try to put something and That's
why I always bring up the other side that for
every grandmother's story, there's another grandmother on the other side
who has cancer or who's sick. I mean, we don't
know that that guy's story because you know what, he

(09:40):
didn't go to the newspaper and tell the writer that
he dedicated to his grandmother, but his grandmother's sick too.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
Do you see what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 (09:47):
There might be four guys over there with sick grandparents,
but they didn't go to the media and they they
didn't write this story about him dedicating to it. Do
they go back to that player after they lose or
he missed laze a ball or whatever it is, and go.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
Did Joe Brahma tell you to do that? Do you
know what I mean? Like, I'm not They would get
the Dave Chappelle.

Speaker 4 (10:06):
One of the five seconds figures in the face he
ain't say like matter for a Rob Grob both robs?

Speaker 2 (10:14):
What was that question that somebody asked that was out
of line? Think?

Speaker 4 (10:17):
And they're like, oh, oh, semi recently, I got it.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
Got been a part of the show when it happened.

Speaker 4 (10:23):
They were like, oh, but did your brother would your
brother be happy to know it was like his dead brother.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
So remember that was the Joel mb situation. Yeah, it
was like, yeah, that's what it was.

Speaker 5 (10:32):
A reporter put in his column. You know you're trying
to out here not playing.

Speaker 6 (10:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (10:38):
Man, sometimes people they be dying to get slapped. I
ain't say they should, but they be asking to get slapped.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
Some sides they do. There's no there's no room for
Violence's what I said. I didn't say they should just
not there. They asked to say.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
You could say, no, they're not asking to be hit,
said to you what he said, But that's different. I'm
not saying he didn't say something. You're playing bad, your
team's But you could say, hey, that's an inappropriate question,
or I take offense to it, and then that's for
the reporter to say, that's not how I meant it
and explain himself. Or you can say I'm just saying

(11:15):
family never physical.

Speaker 4 (11:17):
I'm at a I said it shouldn't, but that don't
mean it wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (11:24):
When you start mentioning the dead people's families, anything's possible.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
Period. It's all I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (11:30):
Man, I'm just sometimes something, something's a life Rob, are
just practical hmm, trash game. He's missing shots, he ain't
playing hard, he looks out of shape. Cool cool check
check check. Oh, you ain't honoring your dead brother right now,
by hold up, That's all I'm saying right there, Yeah,
on the family's day right there. But you know, I
get with Matthew Stafford saying, and I totally again, I

(11:51):
think that I do believe there are times, not every time,
not my cat died and I'm playing hard from a
cat my brother, da da dah. I'm saying, there are
times win a city, a team, or play individual athlete
can muster up something that they maybe didn't even have
during the season, didn't know they had during this fight,
didn't know they had during this tennis match because of
something else that gives them that one little extra boost

(12:13):
that can propel them. I do believe that happens periodically
for sure, not every single time, not every single athlete
around the world. Dion Sanders, Jerry Jones, is this gonna
be We'll talk about it.

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on Magic City Mondays, and man, we get some breaking
news that the Cowboys had interest in coach Prime Dion Sanders,
and then all of a sudden, of course, we kind

(13:30):
of have a conversation. But then later on that night
it was confirmed Dion confirmed that he and Jerry Jones
had had some conversations and he kind of expressed a
little bit how he feels he said, you know, when
Jerry caused you, that's my guy. You know, I've been
thinking about it as something I got to kind of,
you know, chew On a little bit honored to get
that call. However, I do love Colorado. I do love
the buffaloes and everything that we got going on there.

(13:50):
So that was kind of his response. We didn't get
get while we were on the air. Here we are
day letter later.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
You buying it?

Speaker 4 (13:58):
You uh, you're thinking of it's true. I mean, not
thinking it's true, but you're thinking anything of it.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
No, I'm really not. Because Dion I thought it was
about his boys. I just it was about for hours.
Which one is it?

Speaker 4 (14:12):
Like?

Speaker 2 (14:12):
Is it Colorado? Is it?

Speaker 1 (14:14):
I'm not going anywhere unless I could coach my boys
and the well, which one is it? So if you're
telling me that somehow the Dallas Cowboy's gonna draft both
of them and sign Dion or whatever, I don't know
what to believe. Because one one thing was here, right,
that's the reason why. And then the other thing is
of course I'm not saying he shouldn't take the phone call,

(14:34):
but maybe the whole idea is maybe he realizes, you know,
this is a schoolyard, and you can't just manipulate everything,
especially when're talking about.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
Two guys, not one. You're saying, you know what I mean? Yeah,
So I.

Speaker 6 (14:51):
Do.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
I think he's going to be the Cowboys coach. No,
I don't.

Speaker 4 (14:54):
I think what you saw, or what we're seeing play
out is two showmen, Jared and coach Prime Neon Dion.
I think you're looking at two guys who know how
to put on a show, who know how to get
things stirred up, two guys who know how to control
and manipulate the media. I think we're witnessing that, and
I think there obviously is some respect for one another

(15:17):
to have a relationship. He played there, he won a
super Bowl there, So I do believe that portion of it.
And I do believe that Jerry Jones called him and
it was like, hey, I know it's a long shot.
I know he's not leaving, but let me just throw
this out there please.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
A couple of things. Number One, both of them like.

Speaker 4 (15:30):
To be the guy the control, the voice in the room,
the one that's kind of steering this ship. And that
wouldn't work long, that just wouldn't. We already saw that
with Jimmy Johnson, right, just somebody who's bigger than him,
the press conferences that everybody wants to go hear him
talk more than Jerry.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
That just wouldn't work. So I think this is a
scenario where it works out for both because.

Speaker 4 (15:51):
You know what we're doing and other people are doing
and talking about the Cowboys when really we should be
talking about the Rams, or we should be talking about
the commander.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
It's talking about the Cowboys, and the job is open.
I'm it keeps it going because he didn't pick a
coach last week. He didn't fire McCarthy on time where
he could have gotten some interviews.

Speaker 4 (16:08):
He waited on that. Now he's throwing out coach Prime.
I think Coach Prime is enjoying it. I think he's
doing a little to Colorado love it here. But uh,
just to remind you, people are interested. Big organizations argue
with the biggest one in American sports, you know, with
the Cowboys up there, they're interested. Letting you know I'm
getting paid good, handsomely, but just letting you know in
case we got to reup or we want to extend

(16:30):
this thing, now say yeah, make the college football playoffs
will re up you he's out here throwing around as
if he can get paid with god it. So I
think this is both showman using this time using advantage
cowboys ain't in it prime, ain't in the college football playoffs,
keeping their names relevant, keeping it up there, you know,

(16:50):
stirring it up the pot a little bit. I think
more than anything, because I don't think he's going to
the pros right now. I think he absolutely wants to
be the man in college football. And lastly, I think
he enjoys being a leader of young men. He don't
want to go in there with dudes who making a
bunch of money, who ain't trying to compete, Dudes who
over here one two, three, cam koning, dudes who he's
got to, you know, over here, like over aggressively try

(17:12):
to get him. Folks, he wants to be leader of
young men. He wants people up there who can say
what Travis Hunter said about him and that matters to him.
And I don't know if he would get that same thing.
And he's man, he said it himself for years. Why
he wouldn't want to go pro because of the difference
in the caliber of people. When you have these young dudes,
they respect you they listening up to you like a
fatherly figure. That's not the case necessarily dealing with growm

(17:34):
in making millions.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
Excuse me.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
One more.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
And I'm treating it like COVID rules.

Speaker 7 (17:41):
None more.

Speaker 4 (17:41):
It's COVID rules. No no, no no, I'm going rob
g I'm fine, break, I'm going full from Salam, I'm
another studio.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
I'm fine. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
I just think it's the you know a lot of
people when when you got people looking for stories and storylines.
I think it's just a natural. Oh, Dion, Dion, he
can go to be I just think it's a natural.
So people put out stories and stuff that makes sense.
You know, we hear it all the time. It doesn't
mean that there's anything to it, but but it does

(18:15):
mean that can those guys have a conversation. Sure, that's business.
You should have a conversation with Dion to see, you know,
where his head is or what's going on, and see
if there's some sort of situation that might add up.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
But do I really see it. I don't. I just
I don't. I don't know, I don't.

Speaker 4 (18:36):
That's why I think it was an absolute long shot
from the jump from Jerry Jones, I think He just
threw it out there, you know, to to you.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
Never know, and people just want to stir up something.
People want to be wanted, you know what I mean.
And I get that, like what you're saying this case,
Dion wants to be Oh yeah, I remember.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
When Larry Brown was in Detroit. Like they love Larry Brown.
You know, it's like a god when he on that
two thousand and four championship over the Lakers. Yep, they
went back to next year and he's flirting with the
Cavs cause.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
That like Larry is it all right? Yeah, that habitual.
I don't want to be here longer.

Speaker 4 (19:11):
But he had about two to three years in him
and he was ready to go somewhere habitually Larry Brown.
Larry Brown was just like, all right, where are we
at now? Where we what are we doing? I'm ready
to go somewhere.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
All right.

Speaker 4 (19:23):
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Speaker 2 (19:58):
What's up?

Speaker 6 (19:58):
John?

Speaker 8 (20:00):
What's going on? Appreciate you guys having.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
On doing great.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
Let's get right to the coaching news and maybe Dion Sanders,
what do you make of this? Is this just a
friendly conversation or does this have potential legs?

Speaker 8 (20:15):
I think it's just a friendly conversation. It lines up
too perfectly with the way Jerry Jones operates, and the
way he operates is to do things that get a
lot of eyeballs and a lot of attention. And for
this to be the first person that's being reached out
to on the same day that they put out a
statement that they're moving on from Mike McCarthy, I just
feel like, I feel like if you just didn't if

(20:36):
you didn't know Jerry Jones, maybe you think that, oh yeah, no,
this is the absolute front runner, and I've seen Vegas
thoughts come out and say as much. I don't believe
it's to that level. I think that one, I don't
know that it's a great fit for Deon Sanders and
what he likes to do. I think his best fit
is probably in the college game with the recruiting and
how he can, you know, mentor young players in young kids'

(20:57):
lives and stuff like that, where I don't know how
much of that you do in the NFL. And I
don't know that he would enjoy working with Jerry Jones.
I'm sure that he likes the relationship now, but I
think it wouldn't take long before the two would kind
of butt heads on some things because it's been a
while after games where you have to really decide should
I go to the coaches press conference or what Jerry's

(21:19):
saying outside of the locker room. You bring in a
Dan Sanders and you're really tested there. So it sounds
good for media purposes. I just don't see that being
the best fit for the Cowboys. And they also Jerry
Jones being eighty two years old.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
Yeah, we had the same sentiment you and I just said.

Speaker 4 (21:37):
I mean, I think this sounds good as both two
showmen getting out there loving the media attention the last
twenty four hours, but neither one really wants to pull
the trigger and make this happen. And Dion loves to
teach young men and have Travis Hunter moments where they,
you know, are so appreciative.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
Is there is help and support? So I agree with that.
Let me ask you this though, who would be a
likely candidate for the Cowboys? Who is something?

Speaker 4 (21:59):
And then this question we were talking about, Troy Aikman
comes out and said, I don't think that job is
actually as covenant as people think.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
What do you think about the position? And who maybe
is more of a realistic fit.

Speaker 8 (22:10):
There's really not a leader in the clubhouse.

Speaker 7 (22:13):
You know.

Speaker 8 (22:13):
You look at some of these other jobs and it's,
you know, it's pretty easy to connect, like, for example,
Aaron Glenn with the Saints, it's pretty easy to connect obviously,
Mike Rabel with the Patriots, and or Ben Johnson with
the Bears. I don't get that same feeling with this
Cowboys job. And I don't think that they've really had
it on their mind that much up until recently, because

(22:34):
I do think Jerry still thought there was a chance
that Mike McCarthy might come back on a shorter term deal,
and it doesn't appear that Mike McCarthy was interested in that,
and that was probably the sticking point and why they
parted ways. And so I don't know that there is
a leader in the clubhouse. I don't believe that there is.
I would say that the name that makes the most
sense would be a Kellen Moore just because he had
been the quarterback with the Cowboys at back quarterback and

(22:56):
then also obviously then he was a quarterbacks coach with
Dak and then his offensive coordinator, and so there's obviously
that relationship there. But I don't know if the Cowboys
head coaching job as your first job is maybe the
best spot for Kellen Moore. But that's the name that
obviously will will make that'll make a lot of sense
for let's say Kellen Moore to get an interview, But
you can't rule out, you know, former head coaches like

(23:18):
Pete Carroll or Ron riveras in.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
Pete Carroll too old, though I'm going is a pork
chop away go ahead to saying no, the Pete Carroll.
I know he's a young seventy five or whatever. He is,
but wow, I'm stunned by Pete Carroll stuff.

Speaker 8 (23:33):
Well, Jerry Jones is involved, so let's get wild here.
I can't rule out a possibility of you bringing in
Pete Carroll and you having Jason Witten on the staff
as like a head coach in waiting, where he's on
the staff, the contracts set up to where Pete will
have the job for two or so years and then
he hands it off to Jason Witten. You cannot. With
Jerry Jones, you cannot rule something like that out because

(23:55):
he likes Jason Witten so much. He's made comparisons multiple
times over the last year to Jason Whitten and Dan
Campbell in the success that Dan Campbell's had, and now
there's a big difference. Dan Campbell has cut his teeth
being an assistant coach for a long time before he
got the Detroit job, whereas Jason Witten doesn't have any
college or pro coaching experience. So that's why I don't
think he could just hire Jason Whitten as the head

(24:17):
coach right now. But I could see Jason Whitten be
on staff, and most coaches probably won't feel comfortable with that.
But if you have someone that's an older coach, like
potentially like a Pete Carroll. Maybe that's somebody that would
be like, Okay, I can be fine with that. Just
give me the two three years as a coach and
then I'll hand it over to Jason.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
All right, what about Bill Belichick? It all it cost
is ten million dollars to have them, that's all a call.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
Then I I gotta pay him, by the way, I
got to pay him that. But it's just ten million dollars.
Like the tax you're getting a picture from Japan. You
got to pay the tax to get them. That's it.

Speaker 8 (24:49):
It's just crazy because you guys have obviously at least
seen like and it happens multiple times per year that
Forbes list comes out and the Cowboys are always number one,
ten billion, ten point one billion, whatever, and you would
I think that, oh, well, they're the most valuable sports
franchise in the world, so they would spend like that.
They really don't. Jerry doesn't spend like that on head coaches.
And that's why you've seen the coaches that they've had recently.

(25:11):
They haven't been guys paid at the top of the market.
I mean, you would think that if you didn't know
the Dallas Cowboys that well, and you just saw what
their valuation as you'd be like, oh, they probably have
the highest state coach. They're probably paying their coach eighteen
twenty million dollars a year. Jerry doesn't want to do that.
And I do believe if they really wanted Bill Belichick,
if that was really somebody that Jerry was enamored with,
they would have pulled the trigger on that last year,

(25:32):
right after I think it's a year ago to this day,
when they lost to the Packers. You know, the Packers
were the seven seed, the Cowboys were the two just
got blown out at home. Could argue it's the worst
loss in Cowboys history. It would have been such a
clean breakup between McCarthy and the Cowboys, and then you
handed over to Belichick and he's available, And they didn't
do that. And they also didn't go after Ben Johnson,
they didn't go after Jim Harbaugh, and they didn't go

(25:54):
after Mike Brabel and so they had better options, I believe,
last year than they do right now. And so that's
why I don't think any of those names are at
the top of the list.

Speaker 4 (26:02):
He is John Matchoda Jordania couple on a trash talking Tuesday,
get ready for those calls the seven seven ninety nine
on Fox. Let me ask you this, John, I'm gonna
stay away from the Cowboys little but stay in that division.
I'm looking at the Washington Commanders right now. They got
Jayden Daniels. They couldn't be happier. They feel like he's
obviously the guy for their future. You're looking at the Eagles,
who had a weird season in that it was drama field,

(26:24):
but they ended up having a great record and now
moving advancing in the postseason. Where are the Cowboys right
now trying to keep up with their own division with
a couple of teams that you know a couple of
years and three years now for the Eagles of Super.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
Bowl that they're just thankful that the Giants are in
the division. I know that's why.

Speaker 4 (26:40):
I know. It's how they mentioned them who don't have
Saquon or Daniel Jones now neither one, either one of them.
But yeah, so what do you make of where they
stack up in what they got to do to compete
in their own division.

Speaker 8 (26:52):
I'm telling you, I tried saying, I tried telling Cowboys
fans of this about a year ago. They didn't think
it was a big deal when Dan Snyder sold the team,
and I was like, you better tread lightly there, because
you were in a situation where you never had to
really worry about them being an honest like foe. As
soon as they sell the team, you don't know what
the next ownerships group is going to do. And lo

(27:13):
and behold, they didn't even need multiple years. One year
they turned it around and made it look like, Wow,
you know what this organization looks like. They know what
they're doing, made a good head coaching hire, and Dan
Quinn obviously knocked it out of the park, which would
get in Jade and Daniels. And so the Cowboys have
fallen the third. Now, I will say, a good draft
and the right head coach gets the Cowboys right in
the mix, because I do believe they still have a

(27:34):
good franchise quarterback in Dak Prescott, and they have an
outstanding receiver in Ceedee Lamb. They're going to eventually get
a deal done with one of the best, if not
the best defensive players in football in Michael Parsers, and
so they're going to have a solid nucleus to get
right back in the mix. But if they swing and
miss on this head coaching higher, they could certainly fall
to where they're solid and third and they and they

(27:54):
can't catch Washington Philadelphia, And that would be a really
bad spot to see in because for these last ten
fifteen years, there haven't been obviously super Bowl runs, but
they have been one of the better teams in NFC East,
and it feels like every couple of years, you know,
they end up winning the division. But if they make
a bad move on this head coaching higher, they could
definitely fall between those two are behind those two quite

(28:15):
a bit.

Speaker 4 (28:16):
Ooh, John, we wouldn't have to talk about him anymore,
oo said, I said it aloud.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
Thank you John. That wouldn't happen John. But Choda, thank
you so much. Joining We appreciate you anytime. Guys, Thanks
for having John A Choda on X. Give them a follow,
all right.

Speaker 4 (28:28):
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We want to hear what you got to say. On
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Speaker 3 (28:39):
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Speaker 4 (28:51):
It's the Odd Couple, Rob Parker kelvin Washington. Trash Talking Tuesday.
Get to that here in just a minute. Hopefully you're
feeling good, and if you're in southern CALIFORNI hopefully you're
doing good. Obviously we've been dealing with these wildfires now
for is Rob, it's been a week the day you
and I walked out of here last week and all
hell was breaking, loose, bill boards falling, and it was
just power lines or now. It was a crazy, crazy

(29:13):
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(29:35):
Talking Tuesday.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
Well that's right, eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox
You might be able to sneak in here and join
us on trash Talking Tuesday. Kelvin, let's kick it off
with Ken in California. You're in the odd couple of
Fox Sports Radio. Who you trashing Ken?

Speaker 9 (30:01):
Whenever Robin Ken iven't agree on a pick like last night,
you guys both take Minnesota because they moved the fire
moved the game to Arizone and poor Rams might not
have the heart in it. Well, you know what, guess what,
Pick Tilly and pick the Lions because you know what's
gonna happen. Then the Commanders will have to play in

(30:23):
LA against the Rams for the NFT Championship game. So
you guys pick the Lions because I don't kill when
that's all it cames about.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
That's it. You you got that right, but don't worry
about it. You won't have two Lions picks and then doesn't.

Speaker 4 (30:40):
Yeah, you keep talking over it. I got my receipt.
I'm gonna take that baby on your back. Thanks Ken
and Ken appreciate it. There is something too when I
gotta stop picking with you. Every time I pick with you,
Rob g that's when I get mad. Why I should
have went with Houston. I was in my gut and
then the freaking rams too, all right, eight seven, seven
ninety nine on Fox Trash Talking Tuesday.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
You got somebody want to try to what you want to?
Rob Gan? Who you trash? This will be interesting. I'm
trashing kelvin Washington because it's.

Speaker 4 (31:05):
Like that's like West one and a half trash is
right there because the last one was a half a trash.

Speaker 5 (31:10):
Can't now you in this case? You know, dubs always complaining.
You know, I worked too many jobs. I'm up at
two am fighting these fires myself on the front lines.
I can't get a workout in. So I bring my
bands in is we can get some swollen in the studio.
He leaves them here, they get stolen. He's like, don't worry,
Rob Gill, replace him, no problem. And then the next
like week and a half, what happened was, you know

(31:31):
Amazon ain't working right. You know, my my car's frozen
right now. I'll get it to you when I When
I get it to you, I think I found I'm
about to buy it right now. No, actually I can't
buy him yet because you know the handles ain't working.
But we're gonna get them soon. Now we're both looking
bad and it's all his fault. So I'm trashing Kelvin.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
That's fair.

Speaker 4 (31:49):
I don't know why, fol Why am I being trash
when I ain't still them? Let's find out who the
thief is. Stop thief like coming to America. G who
is in here taking bands and bands will make her
dance bands?

Speaker 9 (32:06):
Bands?

Speaker 2 (32:07):
You should be able to leave anything in the studio.

Speaker 4 (32:12):
Knows I always put him back in the little closet
over the little catinal the one time I didn't let
me find out.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
You're trying to get right for after February, after Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (32:21):
Let me find out super I'm saying, let me find
out you got some resistance bands in there that you're trying.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
To have some cheesecake factory cheesecake. So you are. I'm
not there. I'm not even thinking about that. I need
February to come. That's right, all right? We got Gary
in Phoenix. You're in the couple. I'm jumping through the
folio trash and Gary.

Speaker 6 (32:41):
Oh, I'm trash in ESPN for not showing one single
college football bowl game on New Year's Day?

Speaker 2 (32:50):
Is that right?

Speaker 10 (32:51):
That was royally messed up?

Speaker 2 (32:53):
Way?

Speaker 7 (32:53):
I got.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (32:59):
Oh no, I gotta listen don't make me turn in
the TV guy didn't have to go back in, all right,
Thanks Gary, I don't I don't know if I don't.

Speaker 1 (33:10):
Just men in the air One Bowl Game eight seven,
seven ninety nine on Fox.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
Maybe not, maybe not. We got Greg, Greg and Vegas.
You're on the couple of Fox Bunch. Ready who you're trashing?

Speaker 10 (33:20):
Greg Man? Dolphins?

Speaker 2 (33:24):
Man, the Miami Dolphins. Go ahead, go ahead, Man.

Speaker 10 (33:28):
If Tyreek Hill don't want to be there, and then
get rid of them, get rid of them Tyreek Hill.

Speaker 4 (33:35):
So you're trashing the Dolphins and you're trashing Tyreek Hill
or a combo packed Tyrie.

Speaker 10 (33:39):
I'm trashing Tyreek Hill. If you don't want to be there,
get rid of them, Greg.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
I would say, if somebody doesn't want to be there,
you know you can't be you either. Pebroley said it
and I still believe it to this day. Either you're
in or you're out.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
Which one are you in? He told him you're out.

Speaker 4 (33:58):
He told him midseason he was out lirting with Kansas City,
talking to I want to go back, putting out pictures.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
Man.

Speaker 4 (34:04):
I've actually that is the one reason why talent gives
you a little bit of Leeway right, because if he
was a middling.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
Receiver, he would be out of there. It's all about talent,
you know what I mean. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (34:14):
That's a great example of it, because ain't no way
he will be Deontay Johnson. If that was d'ontay, if
that was Deontay Hill, you know what I mean, if
that was Tyreek Johnson, he would be out of there
for sure.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
Eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox before we grab
another call here, let's do this. Yeah, So I'm trashing
all the people who have their panties in a bunch
over the criticism of Mike Tomlin.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
I just don't like, Like I don't.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
It's fine if you think he should stay, but your
ma right, like he's above criticism when when his team
is giving up thirty eight and a half points per
game in their last six playoff losses.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
I don't care who you are.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
And we gave an example of all the coaches who
had been fired with won super well, just not inconceivable
like that time has worn out. Marvin Lewis was a
great example. All those good teams in Cincinnati, they were
awing seven in the playoffs, they.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
Moved on Doug Peterson thought he was about to be
in Philly having.

Speaker 4 (35:12):
All the cheese steaks, and what happened he got more
go down and go get some son in Jacksonville.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
All right, Michael in Portland, you're on the couple of
Fox Sports Radio. Who you trashing Michael the Trailblazers.

Speaker 10 (35:24):
Hey, guys, I am trashing Jerry Jones.

Speaker 7 (35:27):
Fissy. This guy clearly cares more about making headlines and
being in the news cycle than getting out of the
way and powering see coaches and players and winning a
Super Bowl. Despite what this guy says, he does the
same things over and over and expected different result. I

(35:51):
really don't know if he expects a different result. I
just think he wants to catch that check and keep
the gravy train rolling.

Speaker 4 (35:57):
You know what you're saying, Michael's crazy at the best
show on the radio.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
Thank you, thank you, thank you. Michael appreciate it, and
I wrong, right. I ain't gonna be mad at you
because Jerry, it's just been thirty year.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
He said it best. The definition of insandy is doing
the same thing all I expect the different results.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
Let's squeeze in Jake from Kansas real quick Jake, you're
in the odd couple of five laws state.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
Who are you trashing?

Speaker 6 (36:20):
I'm trashing the New England Patriots.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
What go in?

Speaker 9 (36:25):
Uh?

Speaker 6 (36:26):
Fire Draw's mayo ak Bill Belichick two point oh, just
to hire Mike Rabel ak be Bill Belichick three point zero.
At some point they got to change. They got to
change the tune and and flip to the next chapter
and and be done with their There has been dynasty.
I mean, I think the press conference that Brabel gave

(36:47):
and and that the banners or for a reflection of
the past. But and they're drafting a straws at this point,
just trying to continue a dynasty that that died out
as soon as Tom Brady wanted to put the shades
on the head of Tampa.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
All right, I ain't out at that.

Speaker 4 (37:02):
There you go, Jake, all right, Jake, appreciate the car
right there, man, I just would have trish Chipotle. I
paid for a big bag of chips, large bag, got
home with my bowl and I thought I had my chips.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
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