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Kevin Washington, Eph Slim who is in for Rob on
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Speaker 1 (01:21):
So Dwayne Wade, we were talking about, you know, former
players and all the guys who have podcast.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
D Wade now in that space as well.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
It almost feels like you can'tnot be an ex athlete
if you don't have a pod.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Will I mean you can't.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
You're not an excellent if you don't have one. I
prefer live radio, but go Yeah, But d Wade had
the conversation about Kobe Bryant and how he thinks his
disrespectful and crazy that he's where they had him ranked.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
They had him ranked at eleventh. Who did that? Which
you want to I'm gonna have to side with weight
on that part.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Now, how high you want to have him or a
low in this case, that's debatable.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Is he five, if he's six, is he two? Is
he three? But eleven is crazy because you had Steph
Curry in front of him.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
To me and I'm yourself, they had Steph Curry in
front of him, am my life. I think Steth Curry
was directing from it, and I don't get any justification
for that at all. But here's what d Wade had
to say.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
You want to ask us hoopers who played against Cole
were talking all of us gonna talk top three facts
like we all want talk talk three if you played
against it, if you played against Mamba. But from someone's
opinion that's never played against Kobe has never played a
game of basketball at the level that we played at.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Having him at eleven, why am I?
Speaker 6 (02:34):
Why am I.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Up in arms about something like that?
Speaker 5 (02:37):
I remember when Kobe was alive, they had rankers when
he played in the league, and they had him low.
I remember one year Kobe addressed it like who.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Is these idiots?
Speaker 5 (02:45):
Like why would I listen to these idiots? And I'm
not calling a person who did as an idiot, But
what I'm saying is when someone does something like that,
Kobe was like, this is idiotic to me.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
This is a very interesting conversation, Ephim, because I don't
necessarily care where you have him or I have. More
So the broader conversation of there seems to be more
than any other player unless you have somebody on missing
a disconnect between players specifically who played against him, and
(03:15):
then you know the analyst de pundits or people who
write about it and where they rank him. And I
don't know if there's any other player that because I
think most consensus agree on Lebron, even former players. Lebron's third,
he's behind Kobe, or maybe he's second, or he's for
right around there. Analysts put Lebron one, two, three, right
around there. Where's Mike? Mike's one or he's two. Most
(03:36):
people have him. Kobe is the one player I think
where analysts throughout the last you know, twelve years of
his career, he the only one one MVP the you know,
he didn't have this, they didn't rank him as top this.
And then you ask the players and almost universally, they
get a look in their eyes.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
You start talking about Kobe.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Man, that's the baddest and he might be number one
for me, Man he only behind might maybe somebody will
put him behind Lebron. But when you ask players about Kobe,
they just kind of gush about him. And I want
to ask you, this is it a lot of it
about the competitive nature, the mythology, the black Mama, the
(04:17):
respect for the grit, because that's one of the knocks
that people have about Lebron is that man, if he
had the mental makeup of Kobe, if he had the
mental makeup of MJ Man, I don't even know what
Coke Lebron could be like. And I think the players
love the tenacity, the ferocity, the mental how I'll walk
out there shoot free throws or on the torn achilles.
(04:40):
And I think the mythology of Kobe, along with playing
against him in an actual skill set, takes him to
another level that maybe those who didn't compete against him
can't appreciate because you weren't on the court and don't
understand how tenacious he was. Maybe there's a camp in
the NFL, like, Man, I'm telling you, I know this person,
this quarterback's running back to whoever might not have been
on but you had to be out there against them.
(05:01):
Because there's just seems to be more of a disconnect
between writers and analysts with Kobe than players in any
other person I can think of.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
So you always when you look at lists like this,
you gotta look at the source. So this is Bleacher Report, right,
So they did top one hundred players of all time
and had Kobe Bryant, Eddie Levin and Steph Curry at
nine and so on and so forth.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
That's kind of crazy. So you it's bleacher Report.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
So once again it's a way for people to because
people do these lists all the time. Oh yeah, it's
off season. It's a way for people to click on
and us to talk about it. So now people who
haven't seen it, they're going on on their phones and
they're looking up the Bleacher Report Top one hundred NBA
players to see where their favorite players are. Who lands
(05:53):
were obviously not saying that they're not a reputable media outlet,
But who's picking? What is the criteria based on Kobe Bryant?
(06:16):
As you so eloquently put, it is your favorite player's
favorite player. So I'm going to listen to the guys
like a Vince Carter who played against Lebron, Jordan and Kobe.
(06:37):
I'm going to listen to the guys who first hand
had to compete with them. In every NBA player I've
ever talked to that played against all three of them.
Number one, say, Michael Jordan, was you don't even Mike
(07:04):
walk Away, right, Alan Iverson just this Michael Jordan. But
when Kobe Bryant steps on the court, they all say,
we got a problem. He doesn't want to be your friend.
He don't want to hang out with you before the game.
(07:24):
Were not going to eat you, not coming to the house,
because he wants to physically remove your soul from your
body on the basketball court. I'll take that any day
for my money. Michael Jordan is the greatest basketball player
to play all right. I got a chance to see
him in all his glory and everything. Kobe Bryant, in
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my opinion, is the second greatest basketball player because him
individually stepping on the court can change the way the
whole entire other team feels.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
That power alone.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
To where you feel before the game even starts that
you're at a disadvantage. It's what makes greatness great. I
don't know to that level, if even Lebron James has
that effect on teams.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
That is where it gets interesting to me, because for me,
I'll take Lebron over Kobe. But but but I'm not there.
I told you there's three or four people. If you,
however you rank them, I'm not I have.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Somebody right now said no, no, nothing. Abou Kareem was number one.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
I'm not gonna argue with you with Kareem, Mike is Mike,
and if Lebron And now you know a lot of
people have Kobe.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Let me answer questions. Yes, this is where it gets
its true out of Lebron, Michael Kobe, who had the
least physical attributes Kobe, without a doubt. Okay, so had
his height, and you know he didn't have a forty
(09:05):
eight inch vertical. By the way, Mike's verticals out. I'll
rewatched the last dance. Everybody's out of control. It's out
of control, right, So just so you know, you got
a guy in the conversation who not only was less
physically gifted than the other two, right, he was shorter
(09:26):
than the other two and was able to himself make
himself one of the most dynamic players on the planet.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
No one in.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Basketball had more basketball skill than Kobe Bryant, not even
Michael Jordan, no disrespect, And I say it because there
was a slight elevation. Michael Jordan physically was doing things
people had never seen before. And by the way, this
(10:04):
is where I laugh. People talk about plumbers still haven't done.
There's a few pas. He came in the league doing
that magic Johnson. By the way, people are that plumber.
I still haven't seen people do a magic diddy, of course,
not like people. If you show sixty nine point guard
and still pass, you move faster than everybody on the
court and you can see everything. Those are the physical
(10:25):
gifts that you've been blessed with. Kobe Bryant could have
been working at a supermarket. Okay, so see this is
where but listen he listen, listen, listen. You're talking about
physical gifts. Lebron is six', Nine rob Sixty.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Rogg hold, on now all?
Speaker 5 (10:43):
Right you?
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Done because that was, crazy.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Robg this man just told Me kobe could have been
working at Sixty.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
You ain't even seen.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
It you never saw a six five sixty six guy
at the grocery store like you.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Do remember we saw number Eight Kobe Afro kobe lying
through their duncan on EVERTH i ain't saying he was
the most Athletic.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
KOBE i agree with.
Speaker 6 (11:00):
You.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Athletic he wasn't vinced t.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Maclebron i'll give you that hen With Jordan's LEBRON i
don't disagree with.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
That jam all. Right let me break down a couple of.
Things i'm not mad at. You there's no.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Again kobe Is kobe Is, kobe mikem the. Thing couple
of things for me WHERE i Take lebron AND i
think you might appreciate.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
It he was seventeen when he got into the. League go,
ahead he. Was we had the same, BIRTHDAY. Rp. Coche
one of the THINGS i like about my.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Player If i'm a known or A gm And i'm,
Drafting i'm bringing a guy in to the, franchise IS
i know Sometimes i'm going to bring guys in who
aren't as good as we. Thought i'm gonna draft guys
or bring guys in who just get. Hurt that's a
part of the. Game but WHENEVER i have you out,
There i've got a. Shot AND i think one of
the understated attributes About lebron was that he was so
(11:51):
good that for about a fourteen to fifteen year, period
our expectations were finals for.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Him whatever it was.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Your finals just a specific reason WHY i said, finals
because that was the, Baseline like you better at least
make it to the.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Finals and that was, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
AND i don't remember Any Michael jordany had no expectation
until he finally started, winning then we're, like, okay now
you should. Win lebron twenty two years, old till about
thirty six, seven every year was a wasted.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Year or if he even make the. Final, oh he
didn't even make the.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Finals and to me to carry that that every single
time he touches basketball and he's on the, team they
better make the. Finals nobody else really lived with that
except Maybe. Magic you can argue just that just the
way it wasn't for him in the league. Exactly Not,
jordan Not, kobe because When kobe had bad, teams you
your rashingale was, yo he Got, smush he's Got Chris.
(12:44):
Mann what are you supposed to do out? There lebron
Has Boobie. Gibson lebron has a couple of other Bad you're, like,
uh get to the?
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Finals got?
Speaker 7 (12:51):
It?
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Also and this is, historical, Right and you gotta also
look at what The eastern. Comes glad you said that
he called the. Police hold let, me let, Me i'm,
Glad i'm glad you. GO i just want to give
you one little piece of. Information three of the bottom
three playoff teams in The east were under five. Hundred
now that's the, fact and it's still, Today so go. Ahead
(13:12):
So i'm glad you mentioned that the dynamics to, me
That lebron could win at any, franchise that is insane to.
Me that you win with The.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Calves go you go with The caves at twenty, two
don't win, it you go go leave To, miami go to,
four come back To, cleveland go to, four come to The,
lakers win.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
One like that's just insane to. Me and that goes
to WHAT i was previous.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
Point, yeah like guys that followed, that, no, no, no
That no matter where you, are my expectation is we're
gonna win sixty.
Speaker 6 (13:44):
Games.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Yep but he started chasing talent. Though you gotta you
do hold. On realize that hold on because we've talked about.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
This WHEN i sit on a franchise for, six, seven
eight years like he did In, cleveland and the best
y'all give me is Il gawskis And Larry.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Hughes, well how come want want to come play With?
Lebron you're talking about the younger. Iteration, look BECAUSE i
want to go into going To. Cleveland if you're at that,
point if you're going to the finals every, year you
gotta be able to Say, hey.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Let's go get this.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Chip at that, point he is too young and he's
playing With. Cleveland and, now of, course once he Becomes
lebron like as far as winning and, dominating now you
get guys who want to play with. Them guys are
teaming up in that whole. Dynamic twelve years, Over well
that's over now he's sixty. Two But i'm not mad
if you take A. KOBE i like a GUY i feel,
(14:38):
like who can drag, organizations who can do a bit
more or? Less who can the minimal is getting the
finals as my, expectations the biggest knock On? Lebron what
was the biggest?
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Knock i'll help you mental, no, no, No well tell me
on the other.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Side, okay tell me on the other, side BECAUSE i got, it,
DUDE i want to hear. It we'll do that on
the other side seven ninety nine On. Fox but if
you want to jump in on. This the big disconnect
between a lot of the, analysts, pundits writers and where
they Regard kobe versus the players who love and Adore
kobe and have him ranked, one two or, three whereas
(15:16):
they have him ranked at. Eleven sometimes he's, eighth sometimes he's.
Ninth usually that's a round where if these lists they
sometimes Put kobe, seven, eight, nine ten, eleven and players
are always upset about that eight seven to seven ninety
nine On?
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Fox do they get it? Right are they? Tripping what is?
It what's the?
Speaker 1 (15:30):
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Speaker 3 (17:13):
Feet all, right we're talking about D.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Wade, basically essentially just a paraphrase was Saying kobe was
always that. Guy you ask any hooper, hooper they're gonna
Put kobe the phrase your favorite player's favorite. Player and
then you always have where he's whenever these lists come,
out he's always like six, seven, eight, nine ten to.
Eleven and a lot of the players get, mad and a
lot of the writers and punt and, say, hey that's
where he. Is why why is he ahead Of Tim,
Duncan why is he ahead Of? Shack or why is
(17:37):
he ahead of a? Cheam people will say, that and
then hence we have these. Conversations real, quick bring up
you were gonna you AND i were talking off To Mike.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
Herrow i'm just talking about the disparity between The west
and The Eastern conference at that.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Time i'm glad you brought that, up because we know
debate The east was The Leastern conference When lebron was
kind of, running it was Very Tom. Happy you'd have
one or two teams Of. Boston, Obviously heateles or The.
Pistons if we're going back to, that LIKE o three
to about eight run depending on the next through eight
seed were one hundred.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
Percent it was.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Bad here's the one THING i wish IF i was
like making A lebron, SCENARIO i always wish because there's
no debating it was at least thirtn conference compared to The.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
West The west was crazy.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
PACKED i always used to wish he would have went
to The West, ephraim so THAT i believe he wouldn't
have gone to as many ten to, eleven you, know
championship or finals. Appearances, maybe but say he only went to,
Four salely went to, Five sally went to. Six he'd
be four AND o five and over six at, all
because to, me The west was so. Stacked When, okay
now you're pairing him with The Lob City, clippers or
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now you're pairing him with The grit And Grind, grizzlies
with Z bo And Marc gasol and all those. Guys
now you're pairing them With kobe if they chose to do.
That now you're pairing him With. Dirk now you're pairing
it With Tim duncan and. That now you're pairing him
with in the same teams because The west was. Loaded
he's running with Those phoenix sons With Steve. NASH i
used to always, SAY i agree he was running the
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least in. CONFERENCE i wish he would have went to The.
West he would have gone. LESS i, agree completely agree with,
That BUT i think he would have had the chance
to be four and on five and oh six to
zero because once he would have got through that Tough.
WEST i don't think A lebron with The clippers team
would have lost if if if it was a, fifth
we'd all be drunk for. Sure BUT i just, think to,
(19:21):
me WHEN i just look at, ability who can do
what with what on the? Court dragging people to the.
Finals to, Me i'm just more favorable than. That we
were talking off their last. Point we'll get some. Calls
the way my brain works is Like kobe was a
better player Than. Shaq but If i've given me the
entire planet Of earth from twenty two years, Old i'm
(19:42):
gonna Take shack BECAUSE i feel LIKE i have a
better chance to get the finals BECAUSE i don't have
to be it doesn't have to be perfectly. Designed Because
Pete shack was just utterly Ridiculous kobe was a better
player Than.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Shack that's not a. Question especially we're talking a.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
List kobe to me is, fourth fifth If i'm Going
jordan for, Me kareem And, lebron however you want those,
are that's the. THREE i feel Like kobe is fourth
Or magic is.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
Fourth you can Ask, KOBE i Mean kareem And, magic
and they'd Put kobe above. Both And i'm fine with.
THAT i Just i'm perfectly fine with. That and it
looks like soul will the.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Call, yeah eight seven seven ninety nine On, Fox let's
take Some let's go To ken In. California, ken you're
on with the eye couple Of Fox Swords.
Speaker 9 (20:22):
Radio it's about time they put even on so you
can tell Them kevin and they prob ain't trying to hear.
Speaker 6 (20:29):
It what's just going?
Speaker 9 (20:30):
On?
Speaker 10 (20:30):
Man how did you put.
Speaker 9 (20:34):
Came in with the physical? Attributes, yes he was, awesome
he was A joseph, one but he's never lived up to.
It Brother jordan had some. Physicality Kobe, Pocot he messively beats.
Speaker 6 (20:46):
You he beat you on the.
Speaker 9 (20:47):
Court he's physically skillfully and me and, you and that's
WHY i put him in my top. Three of all.
Speaker 6 (20:54):
Time i'm not mad at you.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Can't Ken i'm not mad at you can you at
least put an element name can you've been calling All he's,
like come, on you, know let's go To, Antonio, Miami,
antonio you're home with the On Fox Sports.
Speaker 6 (21:04):
Radio it's, up.
Speaker 10 (21:06):
GUYS i got to take an advan after.
Speaker 6 (21:08):
That. Guy, UH i.
Speaker 10 (21:13):
Will, say pushed back With kevin with With calvin, here
we don't celebrate Second AND i definitely think that If
lebron was you, know he would have been in he.
WON i mean when you're talking about what happened.
Speaker 6 (21:27):
IN la but he won, three maybe he goes to.
Speaker 10 (21:30):
Three you, know my criteria for these writers is two.
Things Number, one they have to have played not at the,
pro not even, college but they had to have played
the game at one. Point and then, secondly they have
to have seen the you, know the majority of their.
Career if they, HAVEN'T i don't think you should really,
(21:52):
be you, know discussing the. Athlete that kind of goes
for all. Athletes you have where they have, uh you,
Know kobe. STUFF i, mean that's as long as everyone's.
IN i guess the compliance that there was a Grand
kenyon Between jordan's and everyone. Else that's. Fine BUT i
don't have a problem with somebody kind of, saying you,
(22:14):
know it's like we discuss jazz or we discuss comedians
and they're all kind of lunk. TOGETHER i don't have
a problem Is, Stephteus lebron, Is Kobe, Is they're all
kind of unique players and added.
Speaker 6 (22:26):
To the art of the.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Game all, Right, antonio thank you for the, call, brother
appreciate you, Well, todd and squeeze in a couple more real,
quick real.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Quick let's go to Uh. Jr In.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
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Speaker 3 (22:37):
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Speaker 6 (22:41):
Much? MAN i really want to touch on three points
that y'all.
Speaker 11 (22:44):
MADE i do Think lebron was On, ah come, on,
man who played harder Than lebron and he never got
hurt for like eight, years nine?
Speaker 6 (22:54):
Years like come, on.
Speaker 11 (22:56):
MAN i So Jeff peg got a podium on That,
kobe but he took it Back.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Jr of course he took.
Speaker 9 (23:03):
It, man you know it was gonna take.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
There he don't take nothing back, normally be standing on Business.
Jr he got that. Call, Hey, jeff how you doing,
This Adam Adam?
Speaker 4 (23:13):
SILVER i know you ain't in the league no, more
but take that, back did a black as you?
Speaker 6 (23:17):
Be all?
Speaker 10 (23:17):
Right real?
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Quick get the other, One. Jr go go, go go,
Ahead jaed real.
Speaker 11 (23:20):
Quick kobe is number, two and nobody wanted to play
With lebron because he dictated how everything.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
WENT i appreciate what y'all who wanted to play with
kob because y'all getting look carried away with. This i'm
cool with all right on now carried away everybody acting
like everybody In texas only a couple With you're the
last one on, This.
Speaker 12 (23:42):
Dion, hey, guys real, quick, man It's kobe amazing, talent
but he had an all time great. ATTITUDE i think
that's what the players fall in love. With H i
got him end up in my top. TEN i got
at number ten or number. ELEVEN i could go through
that if you, want but that's, okay we'll keep. MOVING
i just Think lebron And. Kobe you shouldn't even be
comparing the. Two it's a race between M j And.
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Lebron that that's it For kobe was, phenomenal but he
was the second best player on his team for his
first three. Championships but we can't forget. That and nobody
wants to play With kobe, Either Kobe Hey Ray allen
have a chance to go To, cleveland but he Chose.
Boston but when When lebron went To, miami he went To,
Miami so a lot of people didn't want to play In.
Speaker 6 (24:24):
Cleveland so, OKAY i don't know what happened To.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
Dan appreciate, That, dion we get all of. That and
If lebron is so, great why is he failing the?
Class and the class is championships, right the class is? Finals?
Right we know who got AN a? PLUS i know
we gotta go all, Right wait a, MINUTE a plus
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is six for, Six Michael jordan b Is kobe?
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Right five out of?
Speaker 4 (24:56):
Seven but he had a crazy tutor In shaq first of,
all ok.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
We gotta, go is the d is a? Failing all? Right?
Speaker 12 (25:07):
This?
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Monsey what do? You what do you? Think?
Speaker 13 (25:11):
LISTEN I i Love, kobe SO I i THINK I
i think he's higher for me than he. IS i
understand what you're. SAYING i agree With kelvin's. Lineup kobe
is the better basketball, player But shack propelled that offense
he was. Unstoppable he, Left he's still What kobe still.
Won kobe still won.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Seventy. Five absolutely people have done that.
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Speaker 3 (25:48):
Live it is the odd.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Couple If salaman For rob Kelvin, washington, man we are behind.
Him we got to get to our. Man Olden polonies right.
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if you were, listening appreciate you joining as. Always did
you hear the? Conversation?
Speaker 6 (26:06):
NO i did.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Not i'll get straight to.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
It the original point of it, was where is there
a gap between players obviously like yourself who played in
the league and their reverence For kobe and they have them, first,
second or third is right around. There and a lot
of times these, polls these these, lists these writers or
wherever they Put kobe, somewhere you, know, seven, eight nine through,
twelve what's the big? Disconnect players love, Him he's your
favorite player's favorite. Player is what is it about? That
(26:31):
what in your. Opinion why we have that?
Speaker 6 (26:32):
Disconnect, well the disconnect guess what's been going on with
everything else in our world is that people everybody has an,
opinion and so it makes it very difficult because no
one's ever come up with the criteria for being, great
for being the, goat for being you, know the best,
ever whatever terminologies you want to, use it's who DO i?
Like how AM i feeling about this? Guy and that's
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it because because no one knows? It is it, stats
is it? Rings is it you, know? Longevity what is?
It you? Know and so to, me that's part of.
It but With, kobe it goes deeper than, that because you,
know it's just like with everything, else you, know stuff that,
happened you, know off the floor and the fact that you,
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know he became who he became based off of what
happened with him In, shaquille because a lot of people
are still upset about. That but it's like that nothing
to do with. Him so guys get blamed for stuff
they have nothing to do. With you, know he's not,
management so he doesn't make a. Decision i'm breaking up a.
Team we've been Watching. Boston they were they're only two
(27:36):
years removed from a championship or a year removed from a,
championship and already they're breaking that team apart because of an.
Injury so there's so many different components that go into.
This that's WHY i don't listen to. It but RECENTLY
i made a statement because, NO i got upset on
some of these, players ex players that are running their.
(27:58):
Mouths you know About kobe and you, know people on
social media were, like, well, oh so we can't talk about.
People when they, Did i'm, like, no that's not, it
because you got to listen to totality of the. Conversation
WHAT i was saying is, this none of you guys
had the audacity to say anything to that man when
he was, alive especially being his, contemporary and the fact
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that like A tracey McGrady or somebody, saying well IF
i Had, SHAQUILLE i would have won. Championship you and y'all,
mean so leave me along with that.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Crap there you, Go, OKAY i was with. You then
you just confirmed From shack to, y'all y'all was. Nice
y'all was. Nice he ain't Shock you don't Think Kobe
bryant could have won with y'all mean.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
Yes Because kobe greater than T man agree that that's
the point.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Point you don't THINK ma could have won With? Shaq?
Not maybe he Doesn't winny. DIDN'T i don't. Know you
don't he. DIDN'T i don't, Know so then we don't
know that if. They What i'm saying, IS i don't.
Know WHAT i do know Is Kobe bryant one without you?
Kill he did?
Speaker 4 (29:02):
Facts but say T MA t mac can SAY i
FELT i would win with With.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
JACK i don't think everybody can say.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
That Gilbert areena said the, Same gilbert gotta take him
take chill pill, Right, Like i'm, like come, on, man
and you're you're right op the fact that the disrespection and.
Speaker 6 (29:20):
That's what happens is everybody has their upp in and
what they, believe and so to, ME i try not
to deal with it because it's all. Stupid that's like me,
saying you know, what, MAN i was better Than Will.
CHAMBERLAIN i can't prove, that so it's like it's just dumb.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Talk look where do you? Stand where do you Rank?
Speaker 6 (29:41):
Kobe once, again this is my personal, opinion.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
And we, win and we're gonna listen to it because
you play ye.
Speaker 6 (29:50):
LOVE i Love Kobe. DILLEY i Appreciate kobe before he.
Did but If i'm picking top, five like my top,
five he's not in my top. FIVE i was like
the totality of everything BECAUSE i do have, Criteria, OKAY
i like. That meeting those, criterias then you can't be
in my top. Five is he one of my favorite
(30:11):
players of all? Time? Hell, yes LIKE i. Was i'll
Watch kobe play every damn, day LIKE i still rewatch
his last. GAME i just love the man and how he.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Plays so where you.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Got, Him, opie since we're gonna do the stupid thing
that we all do And franks and list, players where
you got to?
Speaker 3 (30:28):
Be even not in your top? Five where is?
Speaker 6 (30:29):
He he's number six for, me he's right outside of
my top. Five magic his magic birds and they go
hand in, hand and so for, me THEN i got
stocked in in my top five because AGAIN i know
what my criterilias. ARE i Got Will, findler AND i
Got kareem Abdul, jabba.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
All the, polonies my JUST i THOUGHT i had heard
it all with Lisz ethan.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
Almos, blew my hip hop falling up this, WAIT i
want to make sure tell you, wow Wait.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
JOHNS i Think John stockton here is just perked up
all the way In gonzaga.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Whever Was wait?
Speaker 6 (31:11):
What but once again you asked, ME i.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Want to know why we know it's you Op we
want to know why you.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
Are i'm not telling you you're wrong because it's your.
OPINION i might be trying to.
Speaker 6 (31:24):
Say BECAUSE i have certain criterias THAT i use data
and all that. Stuff so that's WHAT i. USE i use,
facts not.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Fiction, OKAY i want to, real, quick, quick make SURE
i heard you. Correctly John stockton is in your top?
Speaker 6 (31:40):
Five john isn't my personal top five me as a? Person? Yes,
okay So.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
John, record who's at the? One Did?
Speaker 6 (31:50):
John he has two records that will never be, broken
steals and. Assist he has two records that will never be.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Broken but he didn't break The he didn't want.
Speaker 6 (32:00):
That stuff like that have to be, prepared they. Have come, on,
man you have to look at it in this. Totality
see we're talking about you guys are looking at who
had highlights and who did this and who did. No
it's the totality of everybody Isah.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
THOMAS i THINK i don't Think John stock was better Than.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
Isaiah's as good As john, was he couldn't get a.
Speaker 6 (32:24):
Chip, yeah But i'm not gonna argue.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
It that's. True that's. TRUE i, Mean i'm gonna arguing
when we hang up over.
Speaker 6 (32:30):
You that's All i'm. SAYING i could, say, MAN i
could have said five other, names it would still be.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
Mine it is definitely. YOURS i don't know he had
Me John.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
Stock, yeah you guys, Criteria you're, Right you're, right we
get it.
Speaker 6 (32:50):
All gonna have different people. AGAIN i don't need click,
FAITH i know WHAT i.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Like or are y'all trying to say you Got alex
And robber trying to say shut us?
Speaker 3 (32:59):
Up is that.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Aplause because they said the first people to shut us?
Up and we're, right leave us.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
Feasts but, LOOK i respect your opinion BECAUSE i respect
you as a.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Player open you know THAT i have nothing but respect for.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
You anybody to play as long as you played and
the time that you played in THE, NBA i.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
CAN'T i, MEAN i can argue with.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
You But i'll always you, know respect your opinion because
you were, there you were part of, it you saw,
it so you knew what guys were bringing out of
the locker room onto the floor every day here.
Speaker 6 (33:34):
Exactly and IF i could say one last, thing the
greatest THAT i have That i've been blessed with is
to revere and respect others for what they've. Done you,
Know i'm not going to Dismiss John stockton because why,
No because just like the, okay perfect, EXAMPLE i Saw
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Elvin hayes last week In Las. VEGAS i had to
go To elvin Hay nobody talks About Elvin. Hayes WHAT
i said saying was, this thank you for everything you
did for. Us and that's WHAT i try to do with,
everybody because you have to respect these men for what
they've done over the, years, Everybody Lebron, Tobe Michael, Pippin Alvin,
(34:20):
ROBINSON i don't care because we all had to go
through something to get where we.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
Are all, right well olden we are at the. Time
BUT i ain't gonna.
Speaker 5 (34:29):
Lie.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Brother that's the first time me and From evers' speechless
we look at we barely. HEARD i was, like it
was the day you know that, TODAY i believe it
is the day they said one of the fastest days On.
EARTH i believe it was where it's the fastest, anyway
it's the whole. THING i felt like we were the
matrix right. There we both looked at each other and froze.
UP i was, like stand still the one yo to
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say one of the trendy.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
Name, no, NO i just wanted. TO i wanted you
to give us what you. Thought and that's what you.
Did john stock and center where and he.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Froze he's like, yeah, baby other And jo stalked it From,
oh they appreciate.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
You as, always, man see you.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
In a little, bit all, right olden polonies the day
The earth stood still right, there one's gotta.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Go it might Be John stockton that has to. Go
from the top. Five it is the odd. Couple Fox.
Sports that's where everybody who is defending right. There you
know With kobe we're, like, yeah oh.
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Speaker 12 (36:05):
It mar crowd.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
A funny even, number figure it, out a, right hear me, Out.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Rogie we've got the list of a music. Parts we're
gonna make it very. Local it's gonna be so can
we Blame manti for? This and you em because y'all
got where you worked and where your kids. Going so
this is this edition is gonna be so cal amusement. Parks,
now the good thing about Southern california is most people
listening have either at least heard of, them or a
lot of people come here to try to.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
Partake they've partaken partaken in.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
These so we're gonna start with the Obvious disney and
we're Counting. California if the whole anything on the property Is,
disneyland we're gonna count. That Knots Bray farm is a
cute one. Here if you've ever been, here you know it. There,
no and by the, Way i'll save that from my.
Thing so you Got Knasbury, farm you Have. Universal we've discussed.
That you're about to spend twenty seven thousand. Dollars you
go to On?
Speaker 3 (36:54):
Monday where AM I Magic? Mountain?
Speaker 1 (36:57):
Okay and lastly we're gonna go a little further. South
we're going to Sea world, where by the, way they
have a concert lineup with Like Fat Joe Soldier. Boy
they've gotten to the hip. Crowd they, say dang, it
you ain't gonna just come out here and See. Shamoo
you're gonna get a show, too gonna get a Shop Ryan.
Bars so here we. Go one's gotta.
Speaker 13 (37:16):
Go this sounds easy.
Speaker 14 (37:17):
By glad to Know Rob parker's back By SeaWorld.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
Next, okay, Bye, rob that's.
Speaker 14 (37:24):
Disrespectful see what give us all the comp. Tickets i'm
never gonna say anything bad about.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
It that's really wanting to.
Speaker 14 (37:29):
See you do want to lay, Back but, no the
easy one is not very. Farm have you seen how
many fights you got out there with these twelve year old.
Hooligates to be honest with, you not scary.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
Farm, no, no, no to.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
Be honest with, you feels like. HOME i feel Like
i'm back In. Detroit i'm, like this is the only
time L a.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
H Alex are you? Ready where were they? Getting you
got all the thing?
Speaker 1 (37:53):
Part not very Far, Disneyland, SeaWorld Magic mountain And Universal.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
Oh, Simple, SeaWorld, see thank you.
Speaker 14 (37:59):
EASY i don't want to go watch animals locked up, exactly, exactly.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
KNOW i just don't like torturing. Things that's the vegan many.
Day have you seen the documentaries of that?
Speaker 14 (38:09):
Place, actually that's why we get so many free tickets.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Exactly, well Clearly universally ain't going.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
Anywhere no styles to be.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
There as much AS i like to crank that soldier,
boy It's Sea, world.
Speaker 13 (38:24):
Good, man exactly you you.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
CHILLY i was gonna say.
Speaker 14 (38:32):
Not very, farm but THEN i, said not scary.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
Farm no, no, no, no no no is it the. Chicken it's,
y'all y'all overrated the chicken WHEN i moved. There, no
you got to go there for the. Chicken even remembered
how Good John stockton. Was someone told you to go
to nice Very farm for the chicken WHEN i. Moved
hurry up, YOU i want to get yours. Out it's
got to be.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
SeaWorld. Yeah. Wow you gotta let them racism, free, free
gotta let them go man.
Speaker 14 (38:58):
Free is because the movie Called blackfish and Not.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
White the ways In town is actually at seawell right?
Speaker 3 (39:06):
Now is she having? Fun they said it was.
Speaker 14 (39:08):
Fun she might be telling.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
You she might be like, no, wait, no nother and that.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
That lean, back lean. Back she might be leaning back right.
Now she might be all the way up