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May 21, 2025 39 mins

Rob and Kelvin tell us if the NFL got it right by deciding not to ban the Tush Push. Finally, the Odd Couple Crew debates barbeque holidays in this week’s edition of One’s Gotta Go. Plus, former AND1 baller and WNBA assistant coach Tim ‘Headache’ Gittens swings by to share his thoughts on the fallout from Caitlin Clark’s hard foul on Angel Reese, whether the WNBA is built to really capitalize on the Clark phenomenon, which stars deserve more attention, and much more!

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the hour, One's Gotta Go, we'll do that. So that's
something else we'll get to, sir. But the NFL, uh,
you know, changing rules as they do every year. I

(01:09):
think the NFL does it too much. Every time something
doesn't go right for somebody, change it all.

Speaker 5 (01:14):
The next year.

Speaker 4 (01:15):
I'm just like, dude, dude, Okay, it didn't work out
or did you know what I mean, and then all
of a sudden, there's like sometimes you just want to
be some consistency to it.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
They have the drawing board, all right, so the kickoffs
all right, so you can go to the twenty five okay, right,
hear me out, hear me. You can't move, but then
if you run all right here, I mean, my goodness,
we have changed the kickoff or at least considered it
a million different times.

Speaker 4 (01:39):
And they just said something about the on side kick.
You can do it at any well, you should be
able to do it at any time. I have no idea.
I don't like if I want to lead the game off.
I'm just saying, like, if I'm want to lead the
game off and I want to do an on site,
why why should I be able to I couldn't agree more.
Find somebody sleeping right because they thinking I'm a kicking

(02:00):
in the end zone.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
Be awake.

Speaker 6 (02:03):
But you still can't do that though, No, I know
you can do it at any time, you have to
be trailing trailing.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
I'm just saying, yeah, yeah, I get what you're saying.
You're saying I should be a period.

Speaker 5 (02:11):
You're just saying you should be able to do an
onside kick whenever you want.

Speaker 4 (02:14):
I don't like why that's like saying rob like you.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
Like a trick fake fake punt only if you're down,
if I see your defense or special teams ain't lined
up right. And you know I've noticed about two times
down the defense saying right, special teams, let's go for
a fake punt. No, no, no, we can't because we're
not down trailing right. That's I like, yeah, to me,
you should be able to do anything you want within
the confines of the rules.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
And they have to pay attention and they have to
be alive and awake.

Speaker 5 (02:43):
And uh, what was it in the Super Bowl?

Speaker 4 (02:45):
You have the Saints, right, I mean that was that
saved the save the game for them. I mean it
was a gutsy if they wouldn't to recover that Sean
Payne that doesn't of his team doesn't recover that and
gives them a short feel and and uh and they
get a touchdown against them on that.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
Do you know you're in trouble? I'm completed.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
That would be always be the poster child for it, Like, well,
I don't.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Really think you exhibit a.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
They went for it all early the second kickoff of
the second half and they got it. The crowds going crazy,
the team's excited. It changed the whole trajectory, the whole
vibe of their team, and they would go on to win.
So to me, yeah, I love it. I love It's
not trickery. I mean, it's a bit trickery, but to me,
it's also just part of the game. Like, you don't
know when I'm gonna do this, You don't know what

(03:34):
I'm gonna do that. I might, I might go for two.
I can go by the way, I'm gonna go for
two every time, you know, kind of like the Lions
do that, the Ravens do that a lot. If that's
what they choose to do, shouldn't be Hey, you can
only go for two if you're down.

Speaker 4 (03:48):
And of course the big one is the tush push
that's been conversation about, and I guess, uh, they didn't
get approval. I mean, uh, they didn't get enough folks
to ban it twenty two of the thirty two votes
falling too short. You need twenty four votes. And the
teams that reportedly saved the Toush push by voting against

(04:13):
the proposal Eagles, Ravens, Browns, Lions, Jaguars, Dolphins, Patriots, Saints, Jets,
and Titans. So those are the teams that saved the
Toush push. I think it's a lot of bit of nothing,
and I'm not a fan of it. I don't think
it's that entertaining. I don't think it's football. I just

(04:35):
it looks like rugby. It just doesn't feel like it's
a part of football that I'm gonna pick somebody up
and push them towards.

Speaker 5 (04:44):
Why not?

Speaker 4 (04:44):
Why can't that just be a play where the linemen
take a player behind them, pick them up off.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
The off the off their feet.

Speaker 4 (04:54):
Right, and then they just run straight with four guys
in front and and and the tight end and run
back holding him up behind this line and then just
running straight.

Speaker 5 (05:03):
I don't, I don't is that football does that? It
just it's not.

Speaker 4 (05:08):
I know it's been effective for the Eagles, so I
understand why some people question it. But is it a
football move? I guess is my problem with it. It
just doesn't feel like football. So I totally get that.
My counter to that would be or in addition, actually defensively,
I can't pick a guy up a little running back

(05:28):
runs into a defensive tackle Chris Jones, and I pick
him up. I can't go backwards, and those come for
negative yards, right, those is for progress wherever you tackle them,
that's wherever you started.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
The initial tackle. And so to me, I do like
to e from shout to EFO. We had e from
on EE yesterday and he brought up a great point
of just the idea that you can do it quarterback
sneak what you've done, or you can even kind of
get behind the guy, but once you elevate him, once
you lift him up, levitate him plays dead. Wherever you were,
that's where we stopped the ball. You know what I mean.
You can't he jumps up in the air. You can't

(06:02):
push his butt to tush and push him forward. But
specifically with the play. I think what's interesting about this
in this conversation, in this meeting, which apparently got really heated,
got really tense.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
Uh, you had owners speaking up against other owners.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
And one of the things I do like the Jerry
Jones brought up was his point was I can't front
I'm battling. Am I just doing this because my team
can't do it, We're not good at it, or it's.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Actually wrong for the game.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
And I thought that was pretty It's pretty you know,
forthright of him to just say, and and you know,
some self awareness to say, am I bitter and mad
because I can't do it? Or it's just not the
right thing? And I thought that was adult of him
to say, because a lot of folks were having that
in that room. If you read you know, you read
the article like, am I is this something that's really
bad for the game? Where I just Matt because one
team has perfected it, because when you look at.

Speaker 4 (06:50):
Them, I just don't think it's football, you know, I
really it feels or it looks like rugby or something
they brought in a rugby like the coach, the trainer
that come in because you're playing rugby.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
Now, they're like, hey, how you do that? When you
do that?

Speaker 1 (07:03):
But when you start looking at the numbers, Rob, it's like,
all right, are we making a big fuss about nothing?
First of all, we know only really two teams doing
The Eagles do it to perfection, to the tune of
I think they've done one hundred and twenty two since
twenty twenty three attempts and they've gotten one hundred and
five of them, thirty for touchdowns. And we know each
Super Bowl their first score was a push into the

(07:26):
end zone. So there's one team that has perfected it.
Then there's the Bills, who had actually backfired on them
this past playoff run against the Chiefs. So it almost
makes you go ooh, the team would arguably the biggest,
most athletic quarterback it didn't work for And then why.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
He's running left to running left and right? And when
you look at the numbers, Rob, it's.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
Not twenty eight percent, it's not one percent, it's point
two eight point twenty eight percent of plays where that
less like extremely less than one percent, not even like
almost one percent. So it's almost are we making a
fuss about something that happens way less than one percent
of the time? And I think that's why for me,

(08:09):
I think you I think they are going to resurface
this next year because I think it's just gonna be
an ongoing thing because the Eagles is gonna they have
perfected and will continue to do it. But I just
think it's a non starter when only one team truly
and then another team and the Bills do it, I
think you just kind of go all right, you know what.

Speaker 4 (08:26):
Well, because all it takes is a couple of teams
to do it and lose a game or you know,
some situation right where doesn't work out for you, and
then you go, is that really what we want to do?

Speaker 5 (08:36):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (08:37):
I just it just doesn't feel natural, doesn't feel like
a part of what we're used to watching in football.
I don't. I don't think it's some special weapon. I'm
surprised that those other teams went along with it, and.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
They said it was persuasive.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
The uh Lorie, the the Eagles owner, and also you
have Kelsey and there as well, and they made it
very persuasive.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
They gave their example.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
You got the foot former football player, his perspective, this
is why we do it, this is what works is
actually this is not as physical and it doesn't hurt
you as much. A think, and you have the owner saying,
come on, guys, what be doing? So they kind of changed.
It's almost like you know, you're looking at the politicians
when they got a lobby going to Congress floor and
you try to go to some caucuses and your lobby
to them and you tell them, come on, man, let's
not change his law or let's change this bill.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
A lot of that went on in there.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
Another other point of emphasis was injury, and they did
a bunch of studies and they haven't been able to
find that it's actually increases injury. And I think that
also played a role that I think some teams, some
you know, a handful of owners probably walked in or
expecting us to get an envelope or a folder full
of data that says more injuries occur with this, more
injuries concur with that, and they didn't get that as well.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
So I do think that played a role.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
Meaning we're only doing it point to eight point twenty
eight percent of the times, only one and a half
team really do it, and there's no injury data least
as of now that shows it's more injury prone.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
I think that played a big, big role on it
as well.

Speaker 4 (10:05):
Yeah, it probably not gonna last that long right back
year because it was only two votes that you know
what I mean, Like, it's so close that you easily
could get a team or a couple of teams to
change their mind next year or some situation happened. So
it'll be interesting going forward to just see where it is.
But I I just I don't think it adds anything

(10:27):
I don't think it's exciting. I don't think it's that
just feels out of place to me, like like it
doesn't make sense for players to pick up another player
or or just you wouldn't allow it in any other
circumstance or situation. Why in the world it would be
like two NBA players picking up somebody so that they
can done exactly like like, well, we'll pick you up

(10:50):
and then you can like like that wouldn't be allowed, right.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
Yo, So I'm a ben down, just jump off my back, right,
get on.

Speaker 5 (10:55):
My back, and then we'll love and then they'll they'll
pass you the ball.

Speaker 7 (10:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
I do think they're be right back at this table
because I think the Eagles are gonna still do it.
Who knows they win the Super Bowl or now, but
I think they're gonna be dominant in the last last
point I make too. I think also in this meeting,
one of the ideas was that the Eagles, Uh Laurie say, hey,
we win either way because either we keep it and
it's something that we continue to do and perfecting are

(11:20):
good at, or you guys take it out and we
said we were so bad at this play as in
good like we were so dominant that y'all had to
change a.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
Whole play because of us.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
And I do think Prige might have gotten that room
a little bit where hold on, I ain't saying y'all
was all that. Hold on, hold on, I ain't gonna
give you the credit of being like, yeah, man, we're
so domint y'a couldn't even stop, but y'all had to
cry to get like a bunch of babies and change
the rule. So I think Probabe might have gotten that
route a little bit where they're like, all right, I
ain't gonna do all that. I'm gonna just try to
figure out a way to stop you. And I do
think whatever we go back and watch that Chief game,
there was there was a couple of times the Bills

(11:51):
did it maybe they shouldn't have, and maybe that will
be something people can lean on and say it can
be stopped. Because Josh Allen is bigger than Jalen Hurts,
maybe just as fast, just as athletic, maybe more athletic,
and if he couldn't do it, maybe maybe you know,
there's hope of stopping.

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Speaker 7 (13:22):
Rob.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
I think it'll actually will be here sitting here this
one year anniversary having the same kind of conversation where
they actually will ban it.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
Actually, I think you said the same thing.

Speaker 4 (13:31):
They're gonna ban it because they're not gonna want to
see that again and go through that again.

Speaker 5 (13:35):
I just I just think I don't I don't know what.

Speaker 4 (13:37):
I don't think it's a big deal for fans really,
I just saying, yeah, I'm just saying, but I'm saying, like,
like the idea that they need to keep it, you
know what I mean, Like, I don't think anybody's going
to be upset if if you decide that you can't
pick somebody else up during a game.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
Do you do?

Speaker 4 (13:56):
You know what I'm saying, Hey, get on my back
and I'm going I'm and you're the running back, you
have the ball, Jump on my back and then we'll
just start I'll start running down the field like like that.

Speaker 5 (14:07):
That's preposterous, right.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
Remember it was a big deal the Reggie Bush push
when he pushed linered in And that was a big
deal because no, you know, obviously nor the Dame fans
are like yo, that was supposed to be you know,
you're not allowed to do that. And I just remember
that being such a big deal in real time. And
now we've gotten to where that's so normalized. We gave
it a name and we don't even you know, it's

(14:30):
just hey, that's just what they do. I just I
just think because it's really just one team. I think
enough people voted against banning it because they're like, man,
it's just one team. Whereas like, let's say one of
the things is onside kick, right, you're like, okay, that
affects everybody. Whether you and I both agree, should be
a kick on side whenever you want, but that affects everybody.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
Or if it's some new.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
The the the horse collar, well literally any player could
get horse collar, and so it affects everybody. Guys have
torn up their knees. All right, let's let's t this
one because it's just really one one and a half,
two maybe two teams. I just think pride kick thing
was like, all right, man, it's only two. Don't even
worry about it, you know, just let's not making that's
not voted out yet. I don't want to be the
one legislating something that a team does, because what if

(15:14):
the next thing is something you know, some team has
mastered some little play where they pitch it, and they flee, flickering,
and they pitch it again, and then it's like, oh,
we don't like that because y'all do that too. Well,
let's legislate that out. So I think that is the
thing they're trying to avoid the precedent. They're trying to
avoid setting.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
Look at me.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
I get my wife, who comes a lawyer. Now I'm
over here talking about presidents. You'r honor. I object. By
the way, you know this too.

Speaker 4 (15:38):
And you have a friend or a spouse or somebody
that gets into something boil, boy, does it change everything?

Speaker 1 (15:43):
You can't even watch TV now, you know? And what's so?
Are you like Matt Locke, that's your show? No, I
thought Perry Mason. Perry Mason comes on, boy, she saiding
there every time too. Yeah, you know that is what
we do. That's a legal over for I'm like, babe,
can we just can we just watch? We just watch
Law and Order as a VUV Now you know everything?
Now that my goodness.

Speaker 4 (16:00):
Well, but that's why those shows and whatnot. They hire
people like your wife to make sure that they get
it right. It's true because if people watch and they
they'll know what you know, you're just a TV screenwriter,
you gotta know, like procedures in court, what you can
and can't say, all that kind of stuff. I still
don't understand though, and I was just sidetruck. There's a

(16:24):
very enlightened, unbelievable Perry Mason episode with a black judge,
which is just for the fifties. It's huge, it's progressive.
But even in the case of the black judge on
Perry Mason, I say, this is how sinister it still was.

(16:45):
He had no lines what so he was up there,
but they like, like you know, you I object zero
lines what not and over room, nothing like that, Like
you had to write for Perry or Mamilton Burger the
DA not to object to something that was presented in

(17:08):
court and for the judge to just sit there there.
You saw him clear as day, a black judge. This
is Los Angeles in the fifties, Okay. But he couldn't
have a line. I thought to myself, not one line.
Objection overrule that yo yo yo yo yo yo objection
over rule yo bro yo Perry yo yo bro objection

(17:31):
over rule nothing.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
He didn't he didn't say bailiff.

Speaker 4 (17:35):
So bad that he's not in the credits because he
had no lines. He's not in the credits. It's unbelievable.

Speaker 5 (17:42):
So you have to try to figure out find out.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
When granddad you wasn't in it. And I swear I
was saying in this show Perry Mason.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
Looked up the credits, you went't, okay, you gotta go
watch the episode.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
You will see me nobody. Wait, he didn't hold nobody
in contempt of court. No, no, you know every you've.

Speaker 4 (17:58):
Never watched the movie or so they didn't. Go take
it easy, counsel, or I'll hold you in contempt. I've
never seen a court episode where you didn't hear from
the judge during a trial.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
It's just we'll have a five minute recess.

Speaker 5 (18:11):
Nothing.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
I just watched literally like Monday, uh Thirgod, the things
is called but the THIRDD. Marshall story recipe Chadwick Boseman
and and to your point, the judge is a sin.
It's a part of it because he's always handled the object, sustained,
take it easy.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
I get it.

Speaker 4 (18:28):
He's not the star. Perry Mason is the star. You know,
he's a party, but he's a part of it. You
can't have a I give him for being progressive, like
the idea what they must have gone through just to
even have a black judge.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
They thought they were killing it, dude. They were like,
look at him, we got a black judge. What do
you say? I didn't say. He said nothing. He was
up there, he said.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
They said, I ain't flow. You know those progressive commercials.
They said, we ain't flow now. We ain't that progressive.
We ain't flow. I got one out of you. They've
already what you call it.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
We ain't flow.

Speaker 4 (18:55):
Now, but we you know, we ain't you know, ain't
that progressive? We put one in there. We'll mark it
off and saying we did one, all right.

Speaker 5 (19:03):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
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now we got Manci Belanos.

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Speaker 1 (19:21):
Odd Couple Robin Kelvin on a worship Wednesday, And as
I just mentioned moments ago, we are joined now by
Tim Headache Gettings, former and one baller, former w NBA
assistant coach.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
Tim. What's up, man, what's happening?

Speaker 7 (19:35):
What's going on? Is going wrong, You're doing We're doing good. Man.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
Appreciate you joining the show.

Speaker 7 (19:41):
I appreciate you for having me. Always a pleasure.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
Well, we got to start with this. Obviously we talk
about the WNBA. I'm gonna just leave this alone. In
this way of saying, I just the thoughts and think
pieces that came from Angel Reese and Kaylen Clark got
people going through drama all of a sudden, I'm just
gonna leave You've been keeping up with all the drama
from people on social media. I'm seeing, hey, baby, people
have to talk about their children and why is all

(20:06):
that because.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
Of a hard file?

Speaker 5 (20:07):
They got baby pictures on Twitter?

Speaker 1 (20:09):
Now I'm just saying, it's getting crazy, Tim, What the heck?

Speaker 7 (20:13):
You know, hey, you know when you're competing feelings, feelings
take you to a whole different level when you keep
your feelings involved with it. But you know, like you
said before, like the biggest thing in the misters susion
and I know y'all understand this. Everybody understands a long
time ago and started with Magic and Bird when they
was competing. It's always gonna be a black and white thing.
It's under ruling basketball. But like the same thing with

(20:36):
magic when every bird told everybody it's respectful to put
a white guy on him. So you know, the competition
is competition.

Speaker 4 (20:43):
Right and and you saw the foul. My god, I
just it was a hard basketball file. Did did I
miss something?

Speaker 7 (20:52):
Well? You know, like they trying to rob you said
this last year was talking like everybody's trying to create
something that's nothing. And if you ain't play the game
to understand what is going on, the biggest thing of
being a coach and format and been around the game
for twenty twenty years with them, NBA, with Teresa and
all of them, and all the older veterans. They're going
to play hard, They're going to foul each other. They

(21:12):
respect each other because the one thing we all know,
you can beat great and I cannot like you, Rob,
but I can always respect you as a player, right right,
you know So and if people forget about that I
played against I play against a lot of McDonald Americans
and I was growing up, and I would file the
heck out of them because I don't want them to
beat me. That's that's called competition.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
Yeah, and I think most of us are. Hey, you
know what's crazy about it?

Speaker 4 (21:34):
Timmy rob we say we want these things, then we
get these things, and then we got to have all
these pieces think pieces be like, no, that's a.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
Hard file woman. Up man up, let's go. You know,
I'm completely with you on that. But to stay that
in the WNBA right now, Robert and I've had conversations
of how you continue to grow the game. You've been
a part of that league, how do they continue to grow? Yes,
Kayln Clark is an absolute superstar in Supernova and Angel
Rees draws eyes. But there's some other good players. Angean Wilson.

(22:02):
We don't talk about her enough. She's the best player
in the WNBA.

Speaker 7 (22:05):
Yeah, And you know, and I think I think, like
we're talking about that, me and Robson. But it's a
marketing piece, you know, Uh, marketing pieces you got you
gotta show people other than them, and then show other
people how good I'll say, it's so many other players
that just are good, that had so many more skills
that can feature. The NBA does a great job of
marking eight different players at times space when games happened.

(22:27):
I think WNBA has to do a better job of that.
When they start doing that, I think it'll show a
license to what other players are and what they do
really well too.

Speaker 4 (22:36):
I'm not gonna paint everybody with a broad brush, but
I just wonder, seriously, women to me, seems they're more
in competition with each other, like there was there was
really like I couldn't believe how many of the players
who were really down on Caitlin Clark before she even played,

(22:56):
you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (22:57):
It was really like a like I didn't get it,
you know.

Speaker 4 (23:02):
Like like like they just they were against her. It
felt like, at least in the beginning. And why wouldn't
they embrace her? And I'm not saying you gotta worship somebody,
but she has changed the league. They got private planes
now cold charter planes. I mean, you know, things have

(23:22):
gotten better and whatnot. Why would why the resistance when
this is what you know? People are watching her, but
they're gonna start seeing all the other players as well,
and things are gonna get better for everybody. Do you
do you see that as a problem in the w
n b A because it just didn't seem like they
were welcoming her to her like they was resistant.

Speaker 7 (23:42):
I think I think it's I think the twofold. I
think they welcome the way you welcome somebody when they
come in as a rookie, you've got come, you got
to come get Like how you robber, you walked into
the gym with us and you was the rookie. We're
gonna treat you. I got that part.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
That's fair.

Speaker 7 (23:56):
Yeah, And then but then the media took a whole
different other way. The girls love what she's doing because
somebody have to pay it away like the ones before
them and then one before them, and now they're gonna
pay it away for the jujus anybody else coming in
and make more money. So that the problem is is
when people take it the wrong direction, like and I
got six sisters, my coach, girls in the guys side.

(24:19):
Girls is meeting in guys.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
No doubt. You ain't saying nothing, no lie.

Speaker 7 (24:25):
Toll hey wrong. How many time we went in to
the outpha and the girl having the same outfit as
another girl and they get mad, no outfit? Like I
don't know why everybody act like girls they more competitive
than us.

Speaker 4 (24:36):
They're way more competitive, right, But I also think that
that's what.

Speaker 5 (24:41):
Holds the league back a little bit.

Speaker 4 (24:42):
And the other thing too is women have to go
to the w NBA games like there are more women
than men. Whenever I see these six thousand people. The
league's been around for thirty years, I mean tim at
some point like like the league, people can show up,
can't they other than when she's not playing?

Speaker 7 (25:01):
Yeah, hundred percent. That's one of the biggest things that
I think that they're missing right now is that. And
to create pobt about. When I talked to a whole
bunch of seams when I was coaching in the WNBA,
I'll be like, you need to come out to the game. Yeah,
I can support it. You know, women is getting this
and we're getting that. And they talk and they start
arguing about the pay scale. I'm like, well, payscales is
gonna get better, I said, But you don't show up

(25:22):
to games. Oh yeah, I'm a support. But if you don't,
if you don't show up, then I don't want to
hear your complaints. I want to hear about I don't
want you to conversation about them getting paid more money.
If you can't show up to me, that's how you
get That's how they get paid. Like I've been on
both sides of travel MBA cheams. The way they make
money is about putting fans people in the seat and
when you got people complaining, which is a lot of people,

(25:43):
and y'all probably hear the people y'all argue with they
don't go to games, they want free tickets. That WNDY
can't make money if you don't spend money. So that's how,
that's how, that's the end. Bottle a line of that.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
One Tim headay Getting is our guest guest former and
one baller, former w NBA systant coach. Tim, I want
to ask you stay with Juju Watkins. We were having
a conversation. Uh wanted to say it was yesterday, could
have been maybe couple days ago, Robin and I.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
I was saying, how you you brought up an example.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
A lot of us talk about the Larry Bird magic
of the ajur Rees and Caitlyn Clark, and I was
saying how they did a great job bringing the NBA
to a next level. But then Michael Jordan just took
it off the stratosphere. And I was wondering, could Juju
be that you've seen her play, you've seen her who
you know what she's about because she's such a great
all around player, like like Kaitlyn Clark, is very, very good.

(26:32):
But Juju's kind of on another level as a complete player.
Do you think she can kind of and she's already
got that star power, she's already got that following people
love her. Could she kind of be that following off
of what Angel, what Caitlyn, what Page have done?

Speaker 2 (26:45):
And then take it to that next level?

Speaker 7 (26:48):
I think I think she was going to do it,
you know, Juju and Bambi of that that she has
that election like her, but a little more social media
President Maya Moore, like member Maya Moore came in. I
watched Maya Moore in college and come man, she was
at a straight killer, quiet assassin, do everything good and
if she didn't, she got better at it. That's Juju
Warkins just the heta two point zero of Maya Moore like.

(27:11):
She could score the ball either hand, right hand, less man,
she can shoot the ball. She got a great smile.
She's already got a social media behind her. She already
coming in coming on the back of already been establishing
the new nil stuff. And I think the way she
scored a ball, she's gonna be a problem. And I
don't know if you remember Cynthia Cooper when Sudie Cooper
came to the league when the first start up, she
was a problem. They'd be able to guard the whole.

(27:33):
And I think Juju gonna do that, and I think
that's gonna bring more more of the guys to think.
And she does everything that's so smooth and so quiet.
She's a quiet assassin.

Speaker 4 (27:41):
See, I'm not positive that's going to happen from this standpoint.
The only reason that Caitlyn Clark has gotten the attention
is guys started to see her shoot from crazy distances
and she was like staffs and that is what attracted guys.
There have been a ton of great women's basketball players and.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
You noticed him.

Speaker 4 (28:03):
You're in the league that people didn't go to the games,
people didn't watch on team. I'm talking about great players.
You mentioned Cynthia Cooper, Cheryl Swooped. I even know these names.
You know what I mean of These players were busy
who were really really good. And what Caitlyn did, which
is so different and what got people who never cared
too you know two dimes about women's basketball as God's

(28:27):
got intrigued because she was doing something that other women
were doing.

Speaker 5 (28:32):
Do you get my point on Caitlyn.

Speaker 7 (28:35):
Yes, you know she she would you know as the
old saying, like the member that commercial back in the day,
what you can do, I can do better? Right, And
I think I think that that's what happened with Kaylyn
Clark and the step the step effect. Everybody like, oh,
you can't shoot like steph And then he comes to
this young lady who shoots just his dizzy because I
watched it in college. In college, you know, she take

(28:55):
them all the time. It's like a normal shot for
so that that that I would say trickery glow chatter
is kind of with her doing it made it even
better for her to be now. And now they now,
they now the people that didn't really watch college now
watching the WN be like, Okay, let me see can
you do it now? And she's still doing it so
and and that's that's a dope part by it. But
hopefully that it ain't ain't a one trick pony and

(29:18):
nic continue to draw more people to the game.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
That's what I'm open.

Speaker 4 (29:22):
That's what I'm talking about, Like like that's not the
only reason that they're watching, that they actually want to
watch these women play basketball.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
And yeah, and not just her games, not just what
she comes in, and that's what we are saying.

Speaker 5 (29:35):
We got to get past it.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
We're there now where And I went to uh the
Sparks game last year, took my daughters tim and it
was I mean it was mayhem. It was sold out
and I haven't been crazy, and because she was there,
and it was amazing to see. Uh So I got
obviously living. I have three dollars. I want to take
them again. But it was amazing to see. She was
just kind of a the Beatles or a Jackson five.
Wherever she went. It was like that real quick for

(29:56):
me watching this game right now? We got Pacers, uh
down to Knicks up to in this tie game?

Speaker 2 (30:02):
Now, Actually, what are you making? A serious? What do
you got in this Eastern Conference finals?

Speaker 7 (30:06):
Hey? You know you know all one hundred percent New
York the way I'm making I'm excited about this.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
I see you watching it right now. You have listened
to as you're watching it.

Speaker 7 (30:16):
I got on mute. I'm watching it. Look, look look
I took all my little boss and fans. They was upset.
I talked myself, what happened when you shoot a whole
bunch of jump shots and all those you know? Now
Now this game right here in Indiana versus Pacer, This
is a really guard for guard game because both sides.

(30:37):
Both sides play a whole bunch of guards that can
really go into fans to shoot the ball. So it's
gonna be a real physical game. I can see this
going six, but you know, but it might go seven.
But I'm you know, I'm with my knicks to take
it in six. But I just don't want them to
get in. I want Tim to stop using them guys
in all the minutes and use everybody so that way

(30:57):
they can come be fresh when it goes to the fourth.

Speaker 4 (30:59):
Course, right, no doubt about it. I brought that up earlier.
Yeah all right, Tim, Man, appreciate you. Always a pleasure,
my man.

Speaker 5 (31:06):
Thank you.

Speaker 7 (31:08):
Hey, when you get a chance, try to try to
catch the game with the Dallas Wing, like pay Page
really impressure her daughter. She's really really good.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
Yeah, Pages, Pages Lick, we don't only have to You
don't have to convince me of that.

Speaker 4 (31:20):
All they gotta do is have when they have free
chicken wing night, then I'm coming to the Dallas Wing.

Speaker 7 (31:27):
And since the wing three wings, hey, bro, go do
that wing.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
And you know I'll be there.

Speaker 7 (31:40):
I'll be with you. Originally had a shirre up.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
There you go, and don't go climbing on those buildings
at the next win. Y'all got to relax. Man, y'all
doing too much.

Speaker 7 (31:47):
Hey, we ain't been here forty the year. The last person.
That's time we went to somebody lifted to save us.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
My goodness. All right, man, appreciate you Tim.

Speaker 7 (31:57):
All right, thank you man.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
I love you all you have to say.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
The next fan's got to relax. I know you from
New York and even you agree. They get a little,
they get a little beside themselves. All right, one's gotta go,
uh tied into this weekend, we will explain. It is
the couple Robin Kelvin on a worship Wednesday Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
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Speaker 2 (32:28):
Wait a minute, I forgot it was worship Wednesday. For
a minute. I did not till I heard him say
King of Kings. It is. It's the yacht couple. Uh
he's Rob Parker.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
Uh, I'm Kevin Washington, Uh Fox Sports Radio couple on
a worship Wednesday, and of course we're ready for a
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(33:02):
it's time for one's gotta go.

Speaker 8 (33:06):
Crow is that I'm even number, figure it out.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
Hear me out, hear me out. Here we go. We
do it every Wednesday.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
We find something that's going on and it can be
sports related, maybe it's not, and we have the conversation
of putting these things together. One's gotta go, all right, rob,
Rob Alex Manci you ready, here we go.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
That's coming up in about thirty seconds when I'm out there.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
So this Monday, we know, is Memorial Day, and it
is of course a time when folks get out, they
enjoy themselves. Most people have the day off. Maybe they don't,
maybe they do, but it's a little holiday that you
kind of go, oh yeah, that's coming up. So buns out, well,
we know, suns out, buns out for you. So it's
not Christmas, Thanksgiving, Easter kind of the ones. You know,
it's one of those other ones. So it got me

(33:52):
to thinking, Labor Day, Memorial Day, fourth of July, New
Year's Day. One's gotta go? Which one do you? You're
just like, I'm not in on that one. I could
care less about that one. I forget about that one.
You have a Memorial Day, this Monday, Labor Day which
is in September. I don't know it was first Monday September.

(34:13):
I believe it is July fourth, fourth of July, and
New Year's Day. One of those has to go. Alex,
Robins are too easy. This one's easy. Are you wait
a minute?

Speaker 5 (34:25):
All right?

Speaker 2 (34:25):
Breaking news? Did you just still Robs? This is easy? Easy?

Speaker 8 (34:29):
What's coming up? Memorial Day? Yeah, get rid of it?
Why simple? Alex hates the troops?

Speaker 2 (34:36):
What okay?

Speaker 1 (34:38):
Number one, I'm not we have of a veteran troops
and people who have lost their lives.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
Are we gonna no say any of that? Don't put
that in. Do you know my real issue?

Speaker 8 (34:54):
It's the fact that everybody and their mother's mother mother
thinks this is like the start of summer. So if
you go anywhere on these three days, it's completely swamped.
It's like y'all don't know that there's a July, August, September.
You don't have to wait till now. It just it
pisses me off because I can't go anywhere.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
You ain't lying, don't go to Miami, don't go anywhere
near the beaches. Memorial Day is lit without a doubt.
It's one of those one monce that gave me.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
Look you ready, yeah, I'm ready go Fourth of July.

Speaker 5 (35:22):
I'm over the fireworks.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
Going on for a week.

Speaker 4 (35:24):
Wow, I'm over the fireworks happening at one in the
morning and the rest of the days.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
Like, I'm over it, dude, I'm over the fireworks.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
If we have them on for a whole week and
they happen at two am, five am, I'm over it.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
Over it, No, I actually believe over it.

Speaker 5 (35:40):
I can go see fireworks anywhere else and they don't
bother me.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
Somebody will get me a bag of fireworks. Now I
know how to get months away from them.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, get Monto all right, Rob
or Rob.

Speaker 4 (35:53):
Labor Day. You know it's the end of summer. It's
just another day off before you go back to work
in September. Starts in school or people get out of
that summer mode. So it's not that reality that impressive,
you know, like it's the last little day you have
off before.

Speaker 5 (36:10):
Uh, all the other holidays are just to me better.
That's it.

Speaker 8 (36:16):
Leave it to Rob, the man who never takes days off,
to say I'll even work Labor Day.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
I'll what's the labor No, I don't even know what
labor day is. Just like exactly, Rob crossed the picket line.
We all know that.

Speaker 4 (36:27):
I'm just saying I'm going to work. Rob, We're trying
to get walk working. Memorial Day and Juneteenth? Is that
still a holiday on my shore? That's a executive order?

Speaker 2 (36:37):
Not yet.

Speaker 4 (36:38):
I'm just we we got about a month. We'll find out.
We'll find out too. Yeah, Rob g this was also
easy for me. Okay, I'm definitely keeping Memorial Day.

Speaker 6 (36:47):
God bless America and the n RA and black trucks
and everything like that, you know, bald eagles everything.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
You don't need a lifted truck.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
The one has got to go.

Speaker 6 (36:56):
If you're a dog owner, it's fourth did youly you
and this and pull the curtain back? This is how
I know that Duve's not one of us, even though
he claims to be. You've never heard an illegal firework
in your life. I could tap you've never heard the
M eighty go off at three am and blow up
like a Volkswagon beetle down the street and set off
all the car alongs like your dogs, you know, crapping in.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
The middle of the floor because they're so scared.

Speaker 9 (37:20):
See where everyone has sparkled, And this is why you're
doing in festive. This is how a bar zona the
street the judgment of the Jeffersons. Can somebody move on up,
rob Gi, you don't know why I started. I gotta
started from the bottom. I'm here, okay.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
M eighty is more a regular thing. When I grew up,
thought you was in the war zone for minutes.

Speaker 8 (37:41):
Sound like there's an interview I saw with Little YACHTI
where he was saying all this stuff and they're like,
you forgot what it was like to be poor.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
Yeah, but see, but first of all, I'm ordinary African student.
Let's start there.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
Let Rob g tell it.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
People don't think I'm walking around here like a gazillionaire.
I know about m eighties, especially in Michigan.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
Rob you know this.

Speaker 1 (37:58):
When you spent time there, people would go to Ohio,
which is right, you know, not too far down to go,
get all the illegal fireworks and bring it back up.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
So it would go down.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
And every year somebody would mess around in JPP and
bow up a finger.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
You heard what having a key finger? Yeah? You hurt Ke?

Speaker 1 (38:14):
You heard Keivon ain't got no thumb, no more. No,
I didn't keep on leave him alone. But with that
being said, fireworks absolutely and fortunly have to stay for me.
Get rid of Labor Day. I have to agree with
Rob Parker on this one. It's an afterthought. I forget
about it. I go Laborhood. Oh yeah, Labor Day is
coming up in two weeks during the week or whatever
it is. Labor Day absolutely can go for me. Memorial

(38:34):
Day is kind of more fun. Starting the summer. I'm sorry, Alex.
We get the summer.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
See you want to save the troops.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
No shout out to the troops. But it's also you
get the vibe. You get the vibe of summer coming forth.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
July.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
You already know New York's Day. Please right, get to
just chill and relax. Start the year off fresh. Labor Day,
go ahead, get up out of here. Why did you
skip right? Over Alix's joke. You're like, ain't gonna pull me,
get down that joke shout that joke's not for me.
That just said it. That's why I was like, I
didn't hear. Matter of fact, I didn't even hear what
he said. What did he say?

Speaker 4 (39:02):
Wow, we had a Western Conference final, but not everyone
was thrilled.

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