March 29, 2024 • 42 mins
Chris Broussard and Rob Parker discuss the recent losses to the Celtics and Bucks and wonder which teams skid is more concerning this late in the season.
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stick with basketball, but go to the NBA, and last
night the two behemoths in the Eastern Conference fell Boston
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still smarting, I'm like I'm writing right, smarting from blowing
that thirty point lead to Atlanta on Monday night and
losing to the woeful Hawks. They play Atlanta again and
lose again in overtime. You're the Kings of the East,
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you have a historical point differential, you're a in games
ahead of everybody else in the conference. You got a
reason to be upset, to want revenge, to bring your
a game, and you go to Atlanta and get beaten
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by a Hawks team that it doesn't have is leading score,
leading assists man, number one star Trey Young.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
What is what is going on with the Hawks? They
came to the Clippers, they beat them up.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
I mean, they've been playing better without Trey. Isn't that crazy?
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Chris Well trade Trey? Look, Trey is an incredible talent,
small guy, but great passer. Can obviously shoot it. He's
not a Steph Curry type shooter. He doesn't shoot a
high percentage, but you know, he's a score puts up
gaudy numbers.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
But to this point, Rob doesn't know how to win.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
It's simple as that. And they're better without him. They're
twelve and ten without him and they were twenty two
and twenty nine with him.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Wow. So we'll see.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
It'll be interesting to see does this, you know, wake
them up and do they look to move him in
the offseason.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
We will see.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
But the other behemoth, as I called it, in the
Eastern Conference, the Milwaukee Bucks Rob the number two seed
but falling fast because the Knicks are chasing Milwaukee Rob.
They go to New Orleans and they get beaten one
o seven to one hundred to one of the hottest
teams in the league, the young but stirty New Orleans Pelicans.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
And Rob.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Now, remember it looked like for a minute, oh here
come the Bucks. They figured it out. Doc Rivers hasn't
playing defense. Dame and Yanni seem to be on the
same page.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
For boullt ten or twelve games, they were looking scary.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Right, that's it. Actually they won eight out of ten.
Look good they now Rob, they have lost. They have
gone five and six in their last eleven games. And
I get some people might say, well, you know, they
getting ready for the playoffs. It's you know, they're a
little bored perhaps, Rob. Here's the thing. Every game for
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them is important. I get it their standing isn't as
big of a deal, but every game is important because
you still are trying to mesh. You've got a new coach,
you got two players, two stars that are used to,
you know, being in their own orbit, and now they
have to learn to play together. So I don't agree
with that notion. I'm not saying they can't turn it around.
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I'm just saying they're not taking games lightly, or they
certainly shouldn't, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
Just they haven't won enough for you could for them
to feel that way, right, And that's all. I just
if they wont CRU's control and they had the best
record of the East, Chris, and then they decided to
take their foot off the gas the last ten games,
could you buy that?
Speaker 6 (04:57):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Yeah, I mean if they haven't been well right and yep, yep? Absolutely?
Which team? Those are the top two seeds?
Speaker 4 (05:07):
As I said, the the self, the Bucks are up.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
A game and a half over the Knicks, who are
the third seed.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
But which I'm only worried about one seed? Are you
more concerned about?
Speaker 3 (05:19):
It's the Milwaukee Bucks?
Speaker 5 (05:22):
It's the Milwaukee Bucks, Chris, not only because of them
trying to get him, Giannis and Dame together, but the
Doc Rivers factor bothers me.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
Just keeping it real, if they were thirty and one
under him, would you still be concerned?
Speaker 5 (05:42):
Probably yes, I meane postseason, postseason one? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
so so.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
I just.
Speaker 5 (05:50):
There are times, Chris, as you talked about, with the stretch,
would they look like, Okay, they got to figure it out,
they're gonna be a team to reckon with Boston? Better
be ready, you know what I mean? And then there's
that terrible bad off night. Will you go to something
still not right here? Something still missing? And I think
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if you're a Bucks fan, you don't feel that confident.
You can't that they're gonna be that they're gonna be Boston, Chris,
if they were to meet in the Western Conference file,
you can't feel confident.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Not at this point.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
I agree with you that I'm more concerned about the Bucks.
The Celtics rob their last twenty four games.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
They're twenty and four.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
They ran about a month ago, they ran off eleven
straight wins, they lost two straight, then ran off nine
straight wins and then just lost these last.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Two games to right.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
So I mean that's that's kind of the scenario you
were painting earlier, is that Boston has looked great and
now you know, Okay, they lost a couple of games.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
It happens. You're not winning every game in the NBA.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
So I agree with you in that I'm more concerned
about Milwaukee because even I throw in and I got
major concerns about this team.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
We both have liked.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
But they're looking to me like the NBA's version this
year of the Philadelphia Eagles rob in that they for
whatever reason, falling into a funk. And I'm talking about
the LA Clippers. But in the case of the Clippers,
and I'm not saying this is definitely going to happen.
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I hope it does because it'll make things exciting. But
the Clippers can at least look back not that long ago,
a couple of months to when they were playing the
best basketball in the league, or at least among those
teams playing the best basketball in the league.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
They came look back and say, we did go thirty
one in eight.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
We didn't play as well as anybody team in this
league just a few months ago.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
So it's there thirty one and eight is a sample size.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
That's so that's that's half the season, Chris, Right, that's
half the season.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Yeah, And so they can look back at that. The
Bucks can't rop the Bucks can't I get it.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
They had the little I.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Say, eight and ten they won. That's not enough. That's
not a big sample size. And so they can't look
back and say, you know, we had this prolonged stretch
where it was clicking, and we know if we play
like that, we can beat any team in the league.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
For them, their heads are swirling with question marks. Now agree, No,
I agree with that. They can't be that confident. And
then Chris.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
Then comes to playoffs where things haven't always gone right.
Obviously they won the championship, but there have been two
bumpy rides there right where they got knocked out when
they were supposed to. Oh yeah, And now they got
a coach who's got something to prove about him being
able to make the right moves and right I think,
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to get that adjustments throughout the game in order for
his team to advance.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
So there's a couple things there that make them scary.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Now I will say this, Rob, even as I have
more confidence in the Celtics, and they'rebody pick to win
the East.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
I think they're yours as well. I am not.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
As confident in them in the East as I am
of Denver in the West.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Like everybody, a lot of people, Rob.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Seem to think, Oh, the Celtics are gonna run through
the East. They got an eleven point eleven game lead,
they've won. They're only the fifteen to average you know,
their victory or their point differential. Their average margin of
victory is eleven points or more. All of the other teams,
the other four have won the championship. They're they're They're
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getting out of the East for sure, and maybe more.
I think they'll get out of the East. They are
my pick, and I'm confident in that pick. But I'm
not as confident as I am in Denver in the West.
Like I do think it's gonna be tough. I think
there are some red flags with the Celtics. One, as
I've said, Rob, they focused too much on the three,
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and I look, everybody's shooting the three a lot. But Rob,
in Monday, when they let the Hawks back in after
going up by thirty, they went six to thirty one over.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
The last three quarters. Three ridiculous. Rob. At one point,
they missed fourteen straight threes.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
And you know this ten years ago, a mere ten
years ago, that would have been viewed as stupid basketball.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Right, you miss a.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Few jumpers, it's like, look, throw it inside or drive
to the bucket and get a layup or a short
mid range shot.
Speaker 5 (10:59):
But what have hapen to stopping the bleeding, Chris? When
the three's not going down. As a coach, we call
a play. Let's get either a bucket in the paint
or some free throws at to stop the the long
run of the other team where we're giving up mysteries, Chris.
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Right with missing threes, they're getting rebounds and probably pushing
it ahead and getting rebaskets on the other side, right, Like,
that's what happens with mysteries.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
And you could just see the leads shrinking, and they
just kept throwing up threes, and then their clutch performance
hasn't been great. It's been you know, generally the bottom
half are definitely the bottom half of the league. So
I do have some questions about them, Rob, But I
got more questions about the Bucks, and so I am
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with you in that I'm more worried about Milwaukee than
I am Boston. But I think the are gonna have
to be They're gonna be you know, you're gonna have
to beat them.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
They are going to be a tough out. I think.
I think Miami can be a tough out.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
I don't think it's gonna be easy for the Celtics,
but I do think they'll win.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
These So you like those so Bucks Miami real quick
with Are the Knicks fit in for you.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Though, Chris, because we were just talking to more play
them right?
Speaker 4 (12:24):
I agree like they We've seen this with Thibodeau's teams.
They're low on talent, but they play hard, they defend,
they everybody knows their role. They're gonna I think their
ceiling is Eastern Conference Finals ceiling. More likely they go
out in the second round. We were talking to Mark Stein.
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He said they probably meet the Bucks in the second round.
I mean, look, could the Knicks beat them, Sure, but
I take the Bucks. I think just their talent because
Rob we've seen this with Thibodeau's teams. He works him
so hard in the regular season that they play at
a playoff level and they play harder and more with
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more intensity than he generally the other teams and so
they tend to overachieve in the regular season, but in
the playoffs they don't have that extra level to go
to where some of the more talented teams have another
level they can reach.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
And that's what Why doesn't he know that? Why doesn't
he know that?
Speaker 4 (13:28):
I mean, I think he knows one way to coach,
which is all out. And I don't blame I mean
rob has been incredibly successful for him in the regular season,
you know, but that's my thing, my view. I mean,
this team just and what it does, Rob it don't
you think they're overachieving, especially with the injuries. I mean,
they're not the most talented bunch even when it's incredible.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
But out Julius.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Ramdalls obviously been out and Mitchell Robinson's been out and
they're I mean.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Cut up. Props to Tims. He's doing a great job.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
But yeah, I think rob most likely they go out
in the second round.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
You don't want to play them because it's gonna be
a hard, tough series.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
Because we saw that last year when they played Cleveland.
Yes we were to Cleveland. They worked over your Cavs
like a Burger friest Chris, and they were physical.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Yeah, and they made Cleveland look soft and so it
gonna have to answer that question this postseason. All right,
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Which Eastern Conference leader, the Bucks or the Celtics concerns
you the most?
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Both both have bad losses last night. Neither had you know.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
I mean, Boston's been playing well, but they got their issues,
so do the Bucks.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Which one concerns you more?
Speaker 5 (16:26):
All right, Chris, let's kick it off with Doug in
New York.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
You're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Doug?
Speaker 7 (16:34):
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We appreciate that and that's what makes us the best show.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Thanks you well, we appreciate it.
Speaker 7 (16:41):
No problem. I'm gonna have to say that it's gotta
be the Celtics, and I think it said the more
pressure is on them because they have the talent, and
they've given the most money to their talents, and Giannis.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Has won.
Speaker 7 (16:58):
The MS are the finals the championship?
Speaker 6 (17:01):
Right?
Speaker 7 (17:02):
But I also have to say that there has to
be one other team that needs to be put in
the picture that have given money and me the wrong
decision year after year that we always think, and it's
the Philadelphia seventy six ers.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
There are they what about the what about him being
being injured?
Speaker 3 (17:21):
I mean, obviously they can't compete without.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
But but I hear what he's saying, Chris, Yeah, go ahead,
expound what should they do?
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Get right?
Speaker 6 (17:30):
Well?
Speaker 3 (17:30):
I mean, what would what would be the other option?
Speaker 5 (17:32):
But I thought you were talking about with the Harden
and the other mistakes that they've made more than they look.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
The next year, they're gonna have seventy million dollars in
cap space. I mean they could, they'll be able to
they could even clear a little more than that, I think,
and they could lose out Chris, who's all.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
George, which we're gonna talk about later.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
I mean they I don't think Philadelphia's done a bad job.
I just think they need their players to step up
and beat's hurt.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
I mean, what are you going to the injury? Of course,
because you can't expect anything without your main guy.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
Not in the NBA, John in New Hampshire, you're in
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Speaker 3 (18:10):
What's up, John good Eve?
Speaker 8 (18:12):
Being fella is always a pleasure of listening.
Speaker 6 (18:14):
To you a conversation, Thank you man. Yes, all right.
Speaker 8 (18:18):
A couple of things about the Celtics. I'm not a
Celtics fan, despite geography of being in New Hampshire, but
there's a couple of issues I have with the Celtics.
First of all, as the head coach Joe Missoula very
inexperienced help bent on them taking forty forty two threes
per game, oftentimes they shoot themselves out of games, out
of big leads, into close losses if management essentially is
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given the keys for the Lamborghini to a sixteen year
old who just got his learn us permit. The other thing, too,
is I'm starting to be concerned that the Celtics are
turning into the San Francisco forty nine ers of the NBA.
You look at the Celtics have been the five of
the last seven Eastern Conference Finals.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Right.
Speaker 8 (18:54):
The forty nine Ers have gone to four of the
last five NFC Championship games. Celtics were up two games
to one over gold Stayed a couple of years ago,
lost that series. The forty nine Ers twice have led
the Chiefs and Super Bowls with the time.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
In the fourth cos Right, yep.
Speaker 8 (19:07):
Exactly, And I think we're all in agree with the
Celtics have the best roster in the NBA, the forty
nine Ers have the best roster in the NFL. Until
those two teams win a championship, you have to question
them without questions.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
No, it's true.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
I mean, if you make a ballot case Chris, he
makes a no no doubt, Jason Tatum. Their best player
is only twenty six. I think Brown is twenty seven.
They're young, but Rob, we've seen it over the years.
This was a right of passage for a while. You know,
we went the Pistons with Isaiah. They had to get
past the Celtics and Bulls to get past Detroit, but
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you got to get past them at some point. And
we also have seen teams that never got past the
Sacramento Kings with Chris Webber, with Steve Nash.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
You know it is not automatic.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
Because you're good year and year out. So no, it's
it's a good point. And I don't I got Denver
beating him in the finals. If they lose this year, Rob,
you wonder do they say let's run it back we're
still young, or do they have to really make.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
A significant change.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
That is a big decision, Chris, because you talk about
being in the mix and getting to the finals again,
and do you break that up thinking we'll push through,
just give us one more shot at this, you know.
And I think because they're young, Chris, they would give
it another shot.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
But then again, what's the one thing they do have
is they didn't say we're young. They're young. You know,
it doesn't happen quickly.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
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Speaker 3 (20:36):
What's up?
Speaker 6 (20:36):
Break? How are you? What's going on? Gentlemen? Man?
Speaker 9 (20:39):
I love the show man.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Thank thank you, buddy.
Speaker 10 (20:43):
I was thinking that.
Speaker 9 (20:47):
There they're younger. I was thinking or like Milwaukee, because
Milwaukee they made the trade game and so and Dame
is an older piece. So it's almost like they have
to hear if they strive real quick and now pretty
much what like the Clippers need to do. But I
would say Milwaukee is the one that I'm worth that
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I'm most worried about because they've been like a seesaw
all year. They switch coaches and the dole of the year.
So it's that that that chemistry still needs to be done.
You look at Boston, the chemistry is good. They lost
some Atlanta and a week fan. But you know, but
Milwaukee lost to the Lakers fight within two weeks without Lebron.
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So my micuser would be more with Milwaukee.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
Well you're agree with you on that? Yeah, that that
Milwaukee more sold than Boston. Chris, I think that's fair.
I really do. Thanks for the call, no doubt, no doubt,
appreciate it. Let's squeeze another one in. Uh, let's see
who we got here?
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (21:55):
Will in Wisconsin. You're on the odd couple of Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
What's up?
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Will?
Speaker 8 (22:00):
Hey?
Speaker 6 (22:00):
Was going on? Rob was going on? Chris quickly?
Speaker 10 (22:03):
Man, Oh really good.
Speaker 6 (22:05):
Rob.
Speaker 10 (22:05):
I'm glad you're glad you're back.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
Man.
Speaker 10 (22:06):
Didn't know if you were, you know, maybe away on
another trip to Dubai, maybe with a summer shecho city.
There's no.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
I'll be working for a while. I just had to
open day. I had to get there.
Speaker 10 (22:18):
Yeah, yeah, no, no, no doubt, man. But I definitely
say Milwaukee, uh and Doc and both Giannis with and
it's not you know, I don't have anything on you know,
moves that were made because anything that Yannas said to anyone,
but I know what he's kind of put out there,
you know, professionally and how he wants to see that team,
but head to head them against New York. Both teams
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they're starters, they they're kind of top heavy. The Bucks
bench does produce a little bit more points to that
Nick's bench. Of course without a healthy Julius Randall, should
they meet in the Simmis or something like that. Yeah,
the difference is Jiannis. But the Onus out of any
of those two between Boston and Milwaukee, Man Gianness is
gonna have to go in an all time historic tear
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with some of what he's put out there now that
he is paired with some talent, So it can't be
more and more and more when you did win with less.
So I'm gonna go ahead and say that definitely the
Honus is going to be on Milwaukee show. Approved man
these in these playoffs, playoffs and beat any Milk, any
Miami team.
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But first, Steve disagrea with you have Dave, Steve Steve Man.
Speaker 11 (23:28):
Let's start with the march madness. Is NC State is
beating two seed Marquette forty four to twenty eight early
in the second half. And that is a surprise because
it's a two seed losing this badly to an eleven seed.
In fact, in Sweet sixteen history, when you have such
a seeding advantage on paper of at least nine seed,
it's better like Marquette has tonight. Those teams are forty
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two and four all times in sixteens. We did have
a Saint Peter's upset in this round, remember a couple
of years ago. See you never know. But NC State,
the only double digit seed still playing in the men's tournament,
is now up forty four to thirty over Marquette early
second half halftime. At the Midwest Region in Detroit, one
seed Perdue has taken the lead over Againzaga forty to
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thirty six. The late game there will have Creighton against Tennessee.
The late game in Dallas. The South Region is one
seed Houston against Duke. Sienna's new head coach is Jerry
McNamara from Syracuse's staff. As for the women's Sweet sixteen,
it got underway today with Oregon State eliminating Notre Dame.
One seed South Carolina still undefeated edged Indiana seventy nine
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seventy five, and Stanford two seed is getting the games
in Portland underway tonight. The late game there by the
Way is going to be Gonzaga against one seed Texas.
Two seed Stanford has a halftime lead thirty seven to
twenty seven over NC State. A busy Friday night in
the NBA as usual, Lakers have won five in a row,
but they're losing it Indiana tonight, Pacers mid third quarter
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up seventy to sixty two, and the Detroit Pistons have
lost eight in a row, but they're winning the third
at Washington sixty three fifty three. Warriors are winning at
the Hornets mid third quarter seventy one fifty four. Coming
up in an hour. One of the Lake games will
have Houston at Utah. The Houston Rockets have won ten
in a row. There are only one game behind Golden
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State for the final play in spot in the West
to Major League Baseball great pitching duel with the Atlanta
at Philadelphia opener after the rainout yesterday. Spencer Strider of
the Braves five innings, eight strikeouts, Philadelphia Zach Wheeler six
scoreless innings but no decision for him either. Braves won
at nine to three thanks to seven runs off the
bullpen and the top of the eighth Jose Alvarado took
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the Lass Milwaukee a three to one winner over the Mets,
who were held to one hit. Currently in progress in
MLB at Tampa Bay race five to one over the
Blue Jays in the bottom of the sixth, and the
Astros have taken a one to nothing edge on the
Yankees in the top of the second inning. The Jets
acquired pass rusher Hassan Reddick from the Eagles for a
conditional third rounder in twenty twenty six. And kudos to
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Fox NFL rules analyst Mike Pereira, who posted on social
media today he is ready to return to work. He
took all of last season off to undergo back surgery.
He will work the two UFL games that Fox TV
has tomorrow when that season gets underway. The USFL and
XFL have merged. The opening game will be between the
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two champs from last Springs League.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
Ex back to you, I never missed the Steve Well
if they haven't played a game yet.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
Oh that's why I've never missed one, because they haven't
played yet.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
All right, thank you. I'm excited.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
I mean, there's a lot of basketball to watch, but
I'm excited. We're lying from the tipreck dot com studios.
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standout at Stanford University, now a college basketball analysts for
FS one Casey Jacobson.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Casey, Welcome, Chris.
Speaker 6 (27:05):
And Rob two of my favorite guys. Man. A lot
of respects for what you guys do. Always great to
join you in the best tournament of all of sports.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Wow, the games, I gotta admit it is.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
I mean, I look, obviously I follow the NBA more,
I don't know these players as much as we used
to know.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
The college players. But let me Matt, the upsets. It
is musty TV.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
It just it's almost like it doesn't matter who's playing,
just the format, the number of games being played, the upsets.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
It's hard to turn away from it. There's no doubt
it is.
Speaker 6 (27:42):
And it's so different than the pro sports that you
guys cover. The NBA playoffs are awesome, but they are
so different. Imagine if all the NBA teams were playing
one game scenarios and just how crazy and you know,
uh urgent that the players would play. This tournament delivers
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every year because of this format. Everybody says it's awesome
every year. And the reason why because of how many
teams sixty eight teams. And there's a lot of charities
now more than there was the five years ago too,
so that certainly helps. But yeah, we've seen we saw
a lot of upsets in the first couple of days,
but then there was chalk. I mean, the first top
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two seeds made it. All of them made it into
the Sweet sixteen for the first time and I think
only for the fifth time ever. But yeah, we're still
on any given night, guys, you can have a bad
Ask ask Arizona, you have a bad night shooting, you're
going home? Ask Purdue last year when I came on
Your Guys the Show last year, we talked about that
Purdue upset to Fairley Dickinson. Purdue was clearly a better team,
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but on any given night, especially with a three point shot,
and how dangerous it is now often we shoot it.
We did a lot more now, So many teams depend
on the three point shot now than ever before, so
upsets in that way could be even more likely now
than ever.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
But casey the idea.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
Last year, Chris and I we talked about there were
maybe too many Cinderellas in the final four. You know,
the ratings continued to go down after starting really well
the first weekend right, and then as as blue bloods
and better teams kept getting knocked out, it affected people watching.
So you want you only need one Cinderella to the ball, right,
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you don't want to have three, so to speak. And
this year there's like and this year, but it just
seemed like we're going to have, you know, like maybe
one or one get through.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Not three.
Speaker 6 (29:44):
I'm with you on this. I enjoy watching some of
the smaller the mid major, even the lower tier teams
challenged the big dogs. I like to see it. However,
as the season goes along. I'm a college basketball anals
and I played college basketball at high level. I want
to see the best matchups. I want to see Purdue
against Gonzaga. I don't want to see Purdue against Utah
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State or mc niece. Okay, So, like all due respect
to those teams, like right now, pretty much the only
Cinderella we got going on and they're playing really well
again today is NC State, who was really an up
and down and let's be honest, a below average team.
They lost their last four games in a row going
into the a SEC Tournament. They had to win it.
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They did, and they continue to just march on. I mean,
DJ Burns is a name that a lot of people
didn't know about. They know about them now and they're
they're playing well again today. But I'm with you, guys,
I want to see I wanted to see North Carolina
and Alabama. I'm excited about Tennessee and Creighton later today,
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and those those are the big boy matchups that we
don't get that only come in the tournament. With with
everything online, you kind.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
Of obviously the team to beat. But like we said,
anything can happen in a one and done scenario. But
I mean the job that Danny Hurley has done is
just I mean, because they lost what five of their
top eight scores or something like that from last year's
national championship and to comeback this year and be so dominant.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Can you speak to the job he's doing, which.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
Is looking like he's putting together one of the best
stretches of coaching that we've seen.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Assuming they go on and win the championship.
Speaker 6 (31:28):
I agree, this is Yukon's tournament to win or lose
right now. The way that they are just dominating and
they picked off from picked up from where what they
did last season. You remember they won six games last year,
all by double digits. I believe all those games by
at least thirteen if I'm not taking yep. And so
far this year they've won their They won their first
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round game by almost forty, they won their second round
game over at good Northwestern team by like twenty, and
they beat they absolutely undress San Diego State by thirty
points the other night. What the are doing is remarkable. Chris,
you mentioned like Danny Hurley and what he's been able
to do. Two things they lost three pro caliber players, Sonogo,
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Jordan Hawkins, and Andre Jackson Junior, who were all three starters.
And when those guys graduated or moved on, I was like,
all right, Yukon's still going to be good, but they're
not going to be what they were. Come on, they're
not going to be what they were, even in this
transfer portal era. I just didn't believe it. And what
they've all been able to do. He went on, got
Cam Spencer, a transfer from Rutgers, who's better now in
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Yukon than he was at Rutgers because there's more of
a free flowing offense and he's a fantastic shooter. Donovan
Clean has taken a step forward, and Tristan Newton is
their point guard. Six five big point guard that's a
triple double threat every time he steps on the floor.
But besides that, it's what he's been able to instill,
which is a like they play hungry. They played like
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they were the ones that got bet in the first
round against FDU. You know how hard that is to
do on a nightly basis with college kids who thinks
that they are the man. He's been able to just
still keep that team fresh and hungry like caged animals. Man,
they come out of the gates and they are ready
to stomp on their opponents. Unlike any other team that
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I've covered, and I've been working this for ten years now,
they are going to. Like. The last thing I'll say
about Yukon is this, and I was just texting my
brother about this. Yukon can lose the game. Okay, They're
not perfect. They lost three teams this year, Okay, but
they are the only team remaining in the NCAA Tournament
where this is true. Yukon can win by double digits
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even when they don't play well, even when they don't
shoot well. And that is not the case with nearly
every team. You saw with Arizona, you saw with North Carolina,
those are very good teams who had bad nights from
their best players and they couldn't survive it. Yukon can
do that. They've done it all year.
Speaker 5 (33:59):
And my last And you make a great case for
Yukon and what they've been able to do. But how
much of it is Yukon and how much of it
is the competition. I'm gonna be the Debbie downer because
even when you talk about the games that they won
San Diego State last year went to the final four
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and they lose by when they lose by thirty, you
know what I mean? Like, I just wonder about the
competition year and in year. I know, Yukon they have
had some history because they've won all these different championship
with different coaches. It's not like they've had one coach
for forty years and they've had that history. They've won
how many now four with three different coaches.
Speaker 6 (34:41):
I think they won five five.
Speaker 5 (34:44):
Yeah, So I'm asking you about the competition in college
basketball right now?
Speaker 3 (34:49):
Really, how good is it?
Speaker 4 (34:52):
Well?
Speaker 6 (34:53):
I mean that's there's three hundred and sixty two men's
Division one, you know.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
What I mean, the ones who can qualify and have
a chance to win.
Speaker 6 (35:00):
Yeah, I don't think that we're in like a down year,
if that's what you're what you're trying to ask me, Rob,
I don't think they weren't it down year. Now? Is
college basketball what it was twenty five thirty years ago
when Patrick Ewing and Georgetown were Romano file has no
But comparing maybe this year to last year or two
years before, I don't see a big drop off. You
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mentioned the competition that YU consoled Yukon. Last year they
went through Saint Mary's Arkansas and Zaga Miami and San
Diego State. Those are the teams and some pretty good
coaches and players in that so far. And this year
they've gone through Stetson, Okay, whatever, Northwestern and San Diego
State so this but they're winning these games by an average,
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I believe, twenty seven or twenty eight points per game.
So whatever competition is in front of them, they are
just absolutely embarrassing. There's really no way to guard them
because they can do everything well and they're probably the
deepest team in the tournament. So they got Illinois tomorrow,
and Illinois is certainly not as good of a team. Yeah,
Illinois has some pretty good guards that can play one
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on one and Marcus Damas and Terry Shannon Junior is
probably the best guard right now in the tournament as
far as scoring the basketball, so they'll have to defend him.
But I mean, I don't know what the lion is
on that game, but it's probably double digits, which is
pretty rare in an the lait a game against a
Big ten opponent.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
Casey, before you go, one word, answer, who's your pick
to win it?
Speaker 1 (36:23):
All.
Speaker 6 (36:24):
So this is Yukon Tournament. The winner lose. If I
had to choose one other team that I think actually
has a chance, it's Purdue. The way they're playing right now,
Purdue to compete. Yeah yeah, all.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
Right, Casey Jason, thanks man, great stuff.
Speaker 6 (36:38):
All. I appreciate you guys. Have a good week.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
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Speaker 3 (37:35):
All right, Rob. We were talking with Casey Jacobson.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
He said, like many it's Yukon's tournament to lose.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
I did pick yu Kon. That might be one of
the few I've gotten, right, But I pick you know
what to put out win it all.
Speaker 5 (37:50):
I'm doing to pick anybody, but you con so who'd
you pick?
Speaker 3 (37:55):
I don't remember my thing. I don't remember to.
Speaker 5 (38:00):
Bet you were just like, literally just I would pick
I was trying to pick, not pick you, Khan. I
just I just I was like, it's such the odd
and I'm not mad at you because that.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
No, it's tournament to lose. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (38:16):
I'm just I mean like like for people to pick them,
I get it. Do you know what I'm saying, Like like,
it's the most obvious pick.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
So so I do understand it. But you gotta be
able to tell us who you picked. I mean you can't. Yeah,
I'm trying to find me. But but.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
When you watch them, And we talked about it with Casey,
it's in a one game scenario, anything could happen, all right,
and Purdue the team, he said, if anybody could beat Ukon,
he thinks it could be Purdue. They they're up forty
thirty six at the start the second half against Gonzaga
(38:54):
in the fifth seed, so they're they're having a tough
game tonight too. But Rob, what you notice about UKHN
they move the ball so well. The players are always moving.
It's the same thing I talk about in the NBA.
When you play five man basketball in today's NBA or
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today's college.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Game, you're unique.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
And I'm telling you, it is so much harder to
guard a team when all five players or even four
of them or three of them are constantly moving and
the ball is flying.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
It's just hard.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
And then if those guys can shoot, it's gonna be tough.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
And that's the thing in the NBA.
Speaker 4 (39:45):
Whether it was the Spurs, you know who did it
at times, especially when they won it twenty fourteen, or
whether it was the Warriors who had that dynasty with
that ball flying around the perimeter. It's just for most teams,
even in college, they play that, you know, pick and
roll and spot up, and you know, it's just easier
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to guard. Now, even if you have a great player
or two who gives the defense headaches, it's still easier
to guard you.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
And so that's the thing I see with U Khan.
Speaker 4 (40:19):
They got size, they got shooting, and because of their
style of play where they're constantly in motion and the
players are moving, they get a lot of backdoor cuts
and things like that. So even if they we're talking
about the Celtics, you know, sometimes relying too much on
the three ball, even if Yu kN is off from three,
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they can still win because they get so many points
in the paint because of their cutting.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
And Chris, I did have Houston.
Speaker 4 (40:50):
I had, Okay, that's I mean, look, Houston's been knocking
on the door for a long time. Kelvin Sampson and
but yeah, yeah, so I was just trying to get
away from, you know what I mean, the Yukon even
though you're right, it was still a tournament to lose.
Speaker 5 (41:07):
So I was trying to find somebody, you know what
I mean, who could who could just maybe win a
Yukon would win again. When was the last time somebody
went back to back? Chris is if Florida was six?
Me uh here, I'm looking it up.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
I think it was. It was Florida six and seven, Florida,
That's what I thought.
Speaker 4 (41:28):
It came back incredible. Yeah, yeah, I mean this is
That's the thing with Danny Hurley. Yeah, these are new players,
and I get it, the portal and all that, but
still that's why.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
I was asking him about about just a competition.
Speaker 4 (41:41):
Well, look, I mean, we know the level of playing
college basketball isn't close to what it was even ten
years ago, forget twenty five years ago. But Yukon's working
with in the same parameters. It's not like they got
a ton of talent and nobody.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
Else, does you know what I mean? So I don't,
I don't.
Speaker 4 (41:59):
I can't hold it against them. But Rober with with
Danny Hurley, if he wins this championship, I mean two if,
because he's still got a long way to go, but
back to back championships, he'd be one of the few
that have multiple ones. Right, we talked to you, get
on Beheim, you get on Iszo. These are guys that
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are legends. They tell me they all got one us. Yeah,
I mean Valvano, I mean the late Great.
Speaker 5 (42:28):
I mean there's a lot of coaches who got won
Chris and then Yolog's career.
Speaker 4 (42:32):
So to get to this early in his career, at
least with a big time programs at Rhode Island, before
it would be.
Speaker 3 (42:39):
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(01:01):
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So that'll be fun. Keep it locked there and that's
about twenty eight minutes away. But for now, Rob Let's
stick with basketball, but go to the NBA, and last
night the two behemoths in the Eastern Conference fell Boston
(01:30):
still smarting, I'm like I'm writing right, smarting from blowing
that thirty point lead to Atlanta on Monday night and
losing to the woeful Hawks. They play Atlanta again and
lose again in overtime. You're the Kings of the East,
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you have a historical point differential, you're a in games
ahead of everybody else in the conference. You got a
reason to be upset, to want revenge, to bring your
a game, and you go to Atlanta and get beaten
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by a Hawks team that it doesn't have is leading score,
leading assists man, number one star Trey Young.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
What is what is going on with the Hawks? They
came to the Clippers, they beat them up.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
I mean, they've been playing better without Trey. Isn't that crazy?
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Chris Well trade Trey? Look, Trey is an incredible talent,
small guy, but great passer. Can obviously shoot it. He's
not a Steph Curry type shooter. He doesn't shoot a
high percentage, but you know, he's a score puts up
gaudy numbers.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
But to this point, Rob doesn't know how to win.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
It's simple as that. And they're better without him. They're
twelve and ten without him and they were twenty two
and twenty nine with him.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Wow. So we'll see.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
It'll be interesting to see does this, you know, wake
them up and do they look to move him in
the offseason.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
We will see.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
But the other behemoth, as I called it, in the
Eastern Conference, the Milwaukee Bucks Rob the number two seed
but falling fast because the Knicks are chasing Milwaukee Rob.
They go to New Orleans and they get beaten one
o seven to one hundred to one of the hottest
teams in the league, the young but stirty New Orleans Pelicans.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
And Rob.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Now, remember it looked like for a minute, oh here
come the Bucks. They figured it out. Doc Rivers hasn't
playing defense. Dame and Yanni seem to be on the
same page.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
For boullt ten or twelve games, they were looking scary.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Right, that's it. Actually they won eight out of ten.
Look good they now Rob, they have lost. They have
gone five and six in their last eleven games. And
I get some people might say, well, you know, they
getting ready for the playoffs. It's you know, they're a
little bored perhaps, Rob. Here's the thing. Every game for
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them is important. I get it their standing isn't as
big of a deal, but every game is important because
you still are trying to mesh. You've got a new coach,
you got two players, two stars that are used to,
you know, being in their own orbit, and now they
have to learn to play together. So I don't agree
with that notion. I'm not saying they can't turn it around.
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I'm just saying they're not taking games lightly, or they
certainly shouldn't, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
Just they haven't won enough for you could for them
to feel that way, right, And that's all. I just
if they wont CRU's control and they had the best
record of the East, Chris, and then they decided to
take their foot off the gas the last ten games,
could you buy that?
Speaker 6 (04:57):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Yeah, I mean if they haven't been well right and yep, yep? Absolutely?
Which team? Those are the top two seeds?
Speaker 4 (05:07):
As I said, the the self, the Bucks are up.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
A game and a half over the Knicks, who are
the third seed.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
But which I'm only worried about one seed? Are you
more concerned about?
Speaker 3 (05:19):
It's the Milwaukee Bucks?
Speaker 5 (05:22):
It's the Milwaukee Bucks, Chris, not only because of them
trying to get him, Giannis and Dame together, but the
Doc Rivers factor bothers me.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
Just keeping it real, if they were thirty and one
under him, would you still be concerned?
Speaker 5 (05:42):
Probably yes, I meane postseason, postseason one? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
so so.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
I just.
Speaker 5 (05:50):
There are times, Chris, as you talked about, with the stretch,
would they look like, Okay, they got to figure it out,
they're gonna be a team to reckon with Boston? Better
be ready, you know what I mean? And then there's
that terrible bad off night. Will you go to something
still not right here? Something still missing? And I think
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if you're a Bucks fan, you don't feel that confident.
You can't that they're gonna be that they're gonna be Boston, Chris,
if they were to meet in the Western Conference file,
you can't feel confident.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Not at this point.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
I agree with you that I'm more concerned about the Bucks.
The Celtics rob their last twenty four games.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
They're twenty and four.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
They ran about a month ago, they ran off eleven
straight wins, they lost two straight, then ran off nine
straight wins and then just lost these last.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Two games to right.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
So I mean that's that's kind of the scenario you
were painting earlier, is that Boston has looked great and
now you know, Okay, they lost a couple of games.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
It happens. You're not winning every game in the NBA.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
So I agree with you in that I'm more concerned
about Milwaukee because even I throw in and I got
major concerns about this team.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
We both have liked.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
But they're looking to me like the NBA's version this
year of the Philadelphia Eagles rob in that they for
whatever reason, falling into a funk. And I'm talking about
the LA Clippers. But in the case of the Clippers,
and I'm not saying this is definitely going to happen.
(07:31):
I hope it does because it'll make things exciting. But
the Clippers can at least look back not that long ago,
a couple of months to when they were playing the
best basketball in the league, or at least among those
teams playing the best basketball in the league.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
They came look back and say, we did go thirty
one in eight.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
We didn't play as well as anybody team in this
league just a few months ago.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
So it's there thirty one and eight is a sample size.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
That's so that's that's half the season, Chris, Right, that's
half the season.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Yeah, And so they can look back at that. The
Bucks can't rop the Bucks can't I get it.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
They had the little I.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Say, eight and ten they won. That's not enough. That's
not a big sample size. And so they can't look
back and say, you know, we had this prolonged stretch
where it was clicking, and we know if we play
like that, we can beat any team in the league.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
For them, their heads are swirling with question marks. Now agree, No,
I agree with that. They can't be that confident. And
then Chris.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
Then comes to playoffs where things haven't always gone right.
Obviously they won the championship, but there have been two
bumpy rides there right where they got knocked out when
they were supposed to. Oh yeah, And now they got
a coach who's got something to prove about him being
able to make the right moves and right I think,
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to get that adjustments throughout the game in order for
his team to advance.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
So there's a couple things there that make them scary.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Now I will say this, Rob, even as I have
more confidence in the Celtics, and they'rebody pick to win
the East.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
I think they're yours as well. I am not.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
As confident in them in the East as I am
of Denver in the West.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Like everybody, a lot of people, Rob.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Seem to think, Oh, the Celtics are gonna run through
the East. They got an eleven point eleven game lead,
they've won. They're only the fifteen to average you know,
their victory or their point differential. Their average margin of
victory is eleven points or more. All of the other teams,
the other four have won the championship. They're they're They're
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getting out of the East for sure, and maybe more.
I think they'll get out of the East. They are
my pick, and I'm confident in that pick. But I'm
not as confident as I am in Denver in the West.
Like I do think it's gonna be tough. I think
there are some red flags with the Celtics. One, as
I've said, Rob, they focused too much on the three,
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and I look, everybody's shooting the three a lot. But Rob,
in Monday, when they let the Hawks back in after
going up by thirty, they went six to thirty one over.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
The last three quarters. Three ridiculous. Rob. At one point,
they missed fourteen straight threes.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
And you know this ten years ago, a mere ten
years ago, that would have been viewed as stupid basketball.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Right, you miss a.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Few jumpers, it's like, look, throw it inside or drive
to the bucket and get a layup or a short
mid range shot.
Speaker 5 (10:59):
But what have hapen to stopping the bleeding, Chris? When
the three's not going down. As a coach, we call
a play. Let's get either a bucket in the paint
or some free throws at to stop the the long
run of the other team where we're giving up mysteries, Chris.
(11:19):
Right with missing threes, they're getting rebounds and probably pushing
it ahead and getting rebaskets on the other side, right, Like,
that's what happens with mysteries.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
And you could just see the leads shrinking, and they
just kept throwing up threes, and then their clutch performance
hasn't been great. It's been you know, generally the bottom
half are definitely the bottom half of the league. So
I do have some questions about them, Rob, But I
got more questions about the Bucks, and so I am
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with you in that I'm more worried about Milwaukee than
I am Boston. But I think the are gonna have
to be They're gonna be you know, you're gonna have
to beat them.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
They are going to be a tough out. I think.
I think Miami can be a tough out.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
I don't think it's gonna be easy for the Celtics,
but I do think they'll win.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
These So you like those so Bucks Miami real quick
with Are the Knicks fit in for you.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Though, Chris, because we were just talking to more play
them right?
Speaker 4 (12:24):
I agree like they We've seen this with Thibodeau's teams.
They're low on talent, but they play hard, they defend,
they everybody knows their role. They're gonna I think their
ceiling is Eastern Conference Finals ceiling. More likely they go
out in the second round. We were talking to Mark Stein.
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He said they probably meet the Bucks in the second round.
I mean, look, could the Knicks beat them, Sure, but
I take the Bucks. I think just their talent because
Rob we've seen this with Thibodeau's teams. He works him
so hard in the regular season that they play at
a playoff level and they play harder and more with
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more intensity than he generally the other teams and so
they tend to overachieve in the regular season, but in
the playoffs they don't have that extra level to go
to where some of the more talented teams have another
level they can reach.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
And that's what Why doesn't he know that? Why doesn't
he know that?
Speaker 4 (13:28):
I mean, I think he knows one way to coach,
which is all out. And I don't blame I mean
rob has been incredibly successful for him in the regular season,
you know, but that's my thing, my view. I mean,
this team just and what it does, Rob it don't
you think they're overachieving, especially with the injuries. I mean,
they're not the most talented bunch even when it's incredible.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
But out Julius.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Ramdalls obviously been out and Mitchell Robinson's been out and
they're I mean.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Cut up. Props to Tims. He's doing a great job.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
But yeah, I think rob most likely they go out
in the second round.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
You don't want to play them because it's gonna be
a hard, tough series.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
Because we saw that last year when they played Cleveland.
Yes we were to Cleveland. They worked over your Cavs
like a Burger friest Chris, and they were physical.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Yeah, and they made Cleveland look soft and so it
gonna have to answer that question this postseason. All right,
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Speaker 4 (16:08):
Which Eastern Conference leader, the Bucks or the Celtics concerns
you the most?
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Both both have bad losses last night. Neither had you know.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
I mean, Boston's been playing well, but they got their issues,
so do the Bucks.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Which one concerns you more?
Speaker 5 (16:26):
All right, Chris, let's kick it off with Doug in
New York.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
You're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Doug?
Speaker 7 (16:34):
Hey, guys, thanks for including us.
Speaker 8 (16:36):
We appreciate that and that's what makes us the best show.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Thanks you well, we appreciate it.
Speaker 7 (16:41):
No problem. I'm gonna have to say that it's gotta
be the Celtics, and I think it said the more
pressure is on them because they have the talent, and
they've given the most money to their talents, and Giannis.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Has won.
Speaker 7 (16:58):
The MS are the finals the championship?
Speaker 6 (17:01):
Right?
Speaker 7 (17:02):
But I also have to say that there has to
be one other team that needs to be put in
the picture that have given money and me the wrong
decision year after year that we always think, and it's
the Philadelphia seventy six ers.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
There are they what about the what about him being
being injured?
Speaker 3 (17:21):
I mean, obviously they can't compete without.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
But but I hear what he's saying, Chris, Yeah, go ahead,
expound what should they do?
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Get right?
Speaker 6 (17:30):
Well?
Speaker 3 (17:30):
I mean, what would what would be the other option?
Speaker 5 (17:32):
But I thought you were talking about with the Harden
and the other mistakes that they've made more than they look.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
The next year, they're gonna have seventy million dollars in
cap space. I mean they could, they'll be able to
they could even clear a little more than that, I think,
and they could lose out Chris, who's all.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
George, which we're gonna talk about later.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
I mean they I don't think Philadelphia's done a bad job.
I just think they need their players to step up
and beat's hurt.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
I mean, what are you going to the injury? Of course,
because you can't expect anything without your main guy.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
Not in the NBA, John in New Hampshire, you're in
the couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
What's up, John good Eve?
Speaker 8 (18:12):
Being fella is always a pleasure of listening.
Speaker 6 (18:14):
To you a conversation, Thank you man. Yes, all right.
Speaker 8 (18:18):
A couple of things about the Celtics. I'm not a
Celtics fan, despite geography of being in New Hampshire, but
there's a couple of issues I have with the Celtics.
First of all, as the head coach Joe Missoula very
inexperienced help bent on them taking forty forty two threes
per game, oftentimes they shoot themselves out of games, out
of big leads, into close losses if management essentially is
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given the keys for the Lamborghini to a sixteen year
old who just got his learn us permit. The other thing, too,
is I'm starting to be concerned that the Celtics are
turning into the San Francisco forty nine ers of the NBA.
You look at the Celtics have been the five of
the last seven Eastern Conference Finals.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Right.
Speaker 8 (18:54):
The forty nine Ers have gone to four of the
last five NFC Championship games. Celtics were up two games
to one over gold Stayed a couple of years ago,
lost that series. The forty nine Ers twice have led
the Chiefs and Super Bowls with the time.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
In the fourth cos Right, yep.
Speaker 8 (19:07):
Exactly, And I think we're all in agree with the
Celtics have the best roster in the NBA, the forty
nine Ers have the best roster in the NFL. Until
those two teams win a championship, you have to question
them without questions.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
No, it's true.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
I mean, if you make a ballot case Chris, he
makes a no no doubt, Jason Tatum. Their best player
is only twenty six. I think Brown is twenty seven.
They're young, but Rob, we've seen it over the years.
This was a right of passage for a while. You know,
we went the Pistons with Isaiah. They had to get
past the Celtics and Bulls to get past Detroit, but
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you got to get past them at some point. And
we also have seen teams that never got past the
Sacramento Kings with Chris Webber, with Steve Nash.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
You know it is not automatic.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
Because you're good year and year out. So no, it's
it's a good point. And I don't I got Denver
beating him in the finals. If they lose this year, Rob,
you wonder do they say let's run it back we're
still young, or do they have to really make.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
A significant change.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
That is a big decision, Chris, because you talk about
being in the mix and getting to the finals again,
and do you break that up thinking we'll push through,
just give us one more shot at this, you know.
And I think because they're young, Chris, they would give
it another shot.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
But then again, what's the one thing they do have
is they didn't say we're young. They're young. You know,
it doesn't happen quickly.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
No, Brandon in Riverside, California, you're in the odd couple
of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
What's up?
Speaker 6 (20:36):
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Speaker 9 (20:39):
I love the show man.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Thank thank you, buddy.
Speaker 10 (20:43):
I was thinking that.
Speaker 9 (20:47):
There they're younger. I was thinking or like Milwaukee, because
Milwaukee they made the trade game and so and Dame
is an older piece. So it's almost like they have
to hear if they strive real quick and now pretty
much what like the Clippers need to do. But I
would say Milwaukee is the one that I'm worth that
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I'm most worried about because they've been like a seesaw
all year. They switch coaches and the dole of the year.
So it's that that that chemistry still needs to be done.
You look at Boston, the chemistry is good. They lost
some Atlanta and a week fan. But you know, but
Milwaukee lost to the Lakers fight within two weeks without Lebron.
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So my micuser would be more with Milwaukee.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
Well you're agree with you on that? Yeah, that that
Milwaukee more sold than Boston. Chris, I think that's fair.
I really do. Thanks for the call, no doubt, no doubt,
appreciate it. Let's squeeze another one in. Uh, let's see
who we got here?
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (21:55):
Will in Wisconsin. You're on the odd couple of Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
What's up?
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Will?
Speaker 8 (22:00):
Hey?
Speaker 6 (22:00):
Was going on? Rob was going on? Chris quickly?
Speaker 10 (22:03):
Man, Oh really good.
Speaker 6 (22:05):
Rob.
Speaker 10 (22:05):
I'm glad you're glad you're back.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
Man.
Speaker 10 (22:06):
Didn't know if you were, you know, maybe away on
another trip to Dubai, maybe with a summer shecho city.
There's no.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
I'll be working for a while. I just had to
open day. I had to get there.
Speaker 10 (22:18):
Yeah, yeah, no, no, no doubt, man. But I definitely
say Milwaukee, uh and Doc and both Giannis with and
it's not you know, I don't have anything on you know,
moves that were made because anything that Yannas said to anyone,
but I know what he's kind of put out there,
you know, professionally and how he wants to see that team,
but head to head them against New York. Both teams
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they're starters, they they're kind of top heavy. The Bucks
bench does produce a little bit more points to that
Nick's bench. Of course without a healthy Julius Randall, should
they meet in the Simmis or something like that. Yeah,
the difference is Jiannis. But the Onus out of any
of those two between Boston and Milwaukee, Man Gianness is
gonna have to go in an all time historic tear
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with some of what he's put out there now that
he is paired with some talent, So it can't be
more and more and more when you did win with less.
So I'm gonna go ahead and say that definitely the
Honus is going to be on Milwaukee show. Approved man
these in these playoffs, playoffs and beat any Milk, any
Miami team.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
Well, thank you, we got Casey Jacobson around the corner.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
But first, Steve disagrea with you have Dave, Steve Steve Man.
Speaker 11 (23:28):
Let's start with the march madness. Is NC State is
beating two seed Marquette forty four to twenty eight early
in the second half. And that is a surprise because
it's a two seed losing this badly to an eleven seed.
In fact, in Sweet sixteen history, when you have such
a seeding advantage on paper of at least nine seed,
it's better like Marquette has tonight. Those teams are forty
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two and four all times in sixteens. We did have
a Saint Peter's upset in this round, remember a couple
of years ago. See you never know. But NC State,
the only double digit seed still playing in the men's tournament,
is now up forty four to thirty over Marquette early
second half halftime. At the Midwest Region in Detroit, one
seed Perdue has taken the lead over Againzaga forty to
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thirty six. The late game there will have Creighton against Tennessee.
The late game in Dallas. The South Region is one
seed Houston against Duke. Sienna's new head coach is Jerry
McNamara from Syracuse's staff. As for the women's Sweet sixteen,
it got underway today with Oregon State eliminating Notre Dame.
One seed South Carolina still undefeated edged Indiana seventy nine
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seventy five, and Stanford two seed is getting the games
in Portland underway tonight. The late game there by the
Way is going to be Gonzaga against one seed Texas.
Two seed Stanford has a halftime lead thirty seven to
twenty seven over NC State. A busy Friday night in
the NBA as usual, Lakers have won five in a row,
but they're losing it Indiana tonight, Pacers mid third quarter
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up seventy to sixty two, and the Detroit Pistons have
lost eight in a row, but they're winning the third
at Washington sixty three fifty three. Warriors are winning at
the Hornets mid third quarter seventy one fifty four. Coming
up in an hour. One of the Lake games will
have Houston at Utah. The Houston Rockets have won ten
in a row. There are only one game behind Golden
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State for the final play in spot in the West
to Major League Baseball great pitching duel with the Atlanta
at Philadelphia opener after the rainout yesterday. Spencer Strider of
the Braves five innings, eight strikeouts, Philadelphia Zach Wheeler six
scoreless innings but no decision for him either. Braves won
at nine to three thanks to seven runs off the
bullpen and the top of the eighth Jose Alvarado took
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the Lass Milwaukee a three to one winner over the Mets,
who were held to one hit. Currently in progress in
MLB at Tampa Bay race five to one over the
Blue Jays in the bottom of the sixth, and the
Astros have taken a one to nothing edge on the
Yankees in the top of the second inning. The Jets
acquired pass rusher Hassan Reddick from the Eagles for a
conditional third rounder in twenty twenty six. And kudos to
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Fox NFL rules analyst Mike Pereira, who posted on social
media today he is ready to return to work. He
took all of last season off to undergo back surgery.
He will work the two UFL games that Fox TV
has tomorrow when that season gets underway. The USFL and
XFL have merged. The opening game will be between the
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two champs from last Springs League.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
Ex back to you, I never missed the Steve Well
if they haven't played a game yet.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
Oh that's why I've never missed one, because they haven't
played yet.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
All right, thank you. I'm excited.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
I mean, there's a lot of basketball to watch, but
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Speaker 3 (27:03):
Casey, Welcome, Chris.
Speaker 6 (27:05):
And Rob two of my favorite guys. Man. A lot
of respects for what you guys do. Always great to
join you in the best tournament of all of sports.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Wow, the games, I gotta admit it is.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
I mean, I look, obviously I follow the NBA more,
I don't know these players as much as we used
to know.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
The college players. But let me Matt, the upsets. It
is musty TV.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
It just it's almost like it doesn't matter who's playing,
just the format, the number of games being played, the upsets.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
It's hard to turn away from it. There's no doubt
it is.
Speaker 6 (27:42):
And it's so different than the pro sports that you
guys cover. The NBA playoffs are awesome, but they are
so different. Imagine if all the NBA teams were playing
one game scenarios and just how crazy and you know,
uh urgent that the players would play. This tournament delivers
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every year because of this format. Everybody says it's awesome
every year. And the reason why because of how many
teams sixty eight teams. And there's a lot of charities
now more than there was the five years ago too,
so that certainly helps. But yeah, we've seen we saw
a lot of upsets in the first couple of days,
but then there was chalk. I mean, the first top
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two seeds made it. All of them made it into
the Sweet sixteen for the first time and I think
only for the fifth time ever. But yeah, we're still
on any given night, guys, you can have a bad
Ask ask Arizona, you have a bad night shooting, you're
going home? Ask Purdue last year when I came on
Your Guys the Show last year, we talked about that
Purdue upset to Fairley Dickinson. Purdue was clearly a better team,
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but on any given night, especially with a three point shot,
and how dangerous it is now often we shoot it.
We did a lot more now, So many teams depend
on the three point shot now than ever before, so
upsets in that way could be even more likely now
than ever.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
But casey the idea.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
Last year, Chris and I we talked about there were
maybe too many Cinderellas in the final four. You know,
the ratings continued to go down after starting really well
the first weekend right, and then as as blue bloods
and better teams kept getting knocked out, it affected people watching.
So you want you only need one Cinderella to the ball, right,
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you don't want to have three, so to speak. And
this year there's like and this year, but it just
seemed like we're going to have, you know, like maybe
one or one get through.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Not three.
Speaker 6 (29:44):
I'm with you on this. I enjoy watching some of
the smaller the mid major, even the lower tier teams
challenged the big dogs. I like to see it. However,
as the season goes along. I'm a college basketball anals
and I played college basketball at high level. I want
to see the best matchups. I want to see Purdue
against Gonzaga. I don't want to see Purdue against Utah
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State or mc niece. Okay, So, like all due respect
to those teams, like right now, pretty much the only
Cinderella we got going on and they're playing really well
again today is NC State, who was really an up
and down and let's be honest, a below average team.
They lost their last four games in a row going
into the a SEC Tournament. They had to win it.
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They did, and they continue to just march on. I mean,
DJ Burns is a name that a lot of people
didn't know about. They know about them now and they're
they're playing well again today. But I'm with you, guys,
I want to see I wanted to see North Carolina
and Alabama. I'm excited about Tennessee and Creighton later today,
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and those those are the big boy matchups that we
don't get that only come in the tournament. With with
everything online, you kind.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
Of obviously the team to beat. But like we said,
anything can happen in a one and done scenario. But
I mean the job that Danny Hurley has done is
just I mean, because they lost what five of their
top eight scores or something like that from last year's
national championship and to comeback this year and be so dominant.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Can you speak to the job he's doing, which.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
Is looking like he's putting together one of the best
stretches of coaching that we've seen.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Assuming they go on and win the championship.
Speaker 6 (31:28):
I agree, this is Yukon's tournament to win or lose
right now. The way that they are just dominating and
they picked off from picked up from where what they
did last season. You remember they won six games last year,
all by double digits. I believe all those games by
at least thirteen if I'm not taking yep. And so
far this year they've won their They won their first
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round game by almost forty, they won their second round
game over at good Northwestern team by like twenty, and
they beat they absolutely undress San Diego State by thirty
points the other night. What the are doing is remarkable. Chris,
you mentioned like Danny Hurley and what he's been able
to do. Two things they lost three pro caliber players, Sonogo,
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Jordan Hawkins, and Andre Jackson Junior, who were all three starters.
And when those guys graduated or moved on, I was like,
all right, Yukon's still going to be good, but they're
not going to be what they were. Come on, they're
not going to be what they were, even in this
transfer portal era. I just didn't believe it. And what
they've all been able to do. He went on, got
Cam Spencer, a transfer from Rutgers, who's better now in
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Yukon than he was at Rutgers because there's more of
a free flowing offense and he's a fantastic shooter. Donovan
Clean has taken a step forward, and Tristan Newton is
their point guard. Six five big point guard that's a
triple double threat every time he steps on the floor.
But besides that, it's what he's been able to instill,
which is a like they play hungry. They played like
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they were the ones that got bet in the first
round against FDU. You know how hard that is to
do on a nightly basis with college kids who thinks
that they are the man. He's been able to just
still keep that team fresh and hungry like caged animals. Man,
they come out of the gates and they are ready
to stomp on their opponents. Unlike any other team that
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I've covered, and I've been working this for ten years now,
they are going to. Like. The last thing I'll say
about Yukon is this, and I was just texting my
brother about this. Yukon can lose the game. Okay, They're
not perfect. They lost three teams this year, Okay, but
they are the only team remaining in the NCAA Tournament
where this is true. Yukon can win by double digits
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even when they don't play well, even when they don't
shoot well. And that is not the case with nearly
every team. You saw with Arizona, you saw with North Carolina,
those are very good teams who had bad nights from
their best players and they couldn't survive it. Yukon can
do that. They've done it all year.
Speaker 5 (33:59):
And my last And you make a great case for
Yukon and what they've been able to do. But how
much of it is Yukon and how much of it
is the competition. I'm gonna be the Debbie downer because
even when you talk about the games that they won
San Diego State last year went to the final four
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and they lose by when they lose by thirty, you
know what I mean? Like, I just wonder about the
competition year and in year. I know, Yukon they have
had some history because they've won all these different championship
with different coaches. It's not like they've had one coach
for forty years and they've had that history. They've won
how many now four with three different coaches.
Speaker 6 (34:41):
I think they won five five.
Speaker 5 (34:44):
Yeah, So I'm asking you about the competition in college
basketball right now?
Speaker 3 (34:49):
Really, how good is it?
Speaker 4 (34:52):
Well?
Speaker 6 (34:53):
I mean that's there's three hundred and sixty two men's
Division one, you know.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
What I mean, the ones who can qualify and have
a chance to win.
Speaker 6 (35:00):
Yeah, I don't think that we're in like a down year,
if that's what you're what you're trying to ask me, Rob,
I don't think they weren't it down year. Now? Is
college basketball what it was twenty five thirty years ago
when Patrick Ewing and Georgetown were Romano file has no
But comparing maybe this year to last year or two
years before, I don't see a big drop off. You
(35:21):
mentioned the competition that YU consoled Yukon. Last year they
went through Saint Mary's Arkansas and Zaga Miami and San
Diego State. Those are the teams and some pretty good
coaches and players in that so far. And this year
they've gone through Stetson, Okay, whatever, Northwestern and San Diego
State so this but they're winning these games by an average,
(35:42):
I believe, twenty seven or twenty eight points per game.
So whatever competition is in front of them, they are
just absolutely embarrassing. There's really no way to guard them
because they can do everything well and they're probably the
deepest team in the tournament. So they got Illinois tomorrow,
and Illinois is certainly not as good of a team. Yeah,
Illinois has some pretty good guards that can play one
(36:03):
on one and Marcus Damas and Terry Shannon Junior is
probably the best guard right now in the tournament as
far as scoring the basketball, so they'll have to defend him.
But I mean, I don't know what the lion is
on that game, but it's probably double digits, which is
pretty rare in an the lait a game against a
Big ten opponent.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
Casey, before you go, one word, answer, who's your pick
to win it?
Speaker 1 (36:23):
All.
Speaker 6 (36:24):
So this is Yukon Tournament. The winner lose. If I
had to choose one other team that I think actually
has a chance, it's Purdue. The way they're playing right now,
Purdue to compete. Yeah yeah, all.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
Right, Casey Jason, thanks man, great stuff.
Speaker 6 (36:38):
All. I appreciate you guys. Have a good week.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
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Speaker 3 (37:35):
All right, Rob. We were talking with Casey Jacobson.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
He said, like many it's Yukon's tournament to lose.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
I did pick yu Kon. That might be one of
the few I've gotten, right, But I pick you know
what to put out win it all.
Speaker 5 (37:50):
I'm doing to pick anybody, but you con so who'd
you pick?
Speaker 3 (37:55):
I don't remember my thing. I don't remember to.
Speaker 5 (38:00):
Bet you were just like, literally just I would pick
I was trying to pick, not pick you, Khan. I
just I just I was like, it's such the odd
and I'm not mad at you because that.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
No, it's tournament to lose. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (38:16):
I'm just I mean like like for people to pick them,
I get it. Do you know what I'm saying, Like like,
it's the most obvious pick.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
So so I do understand it. But you gotta be
able to tell us who you picked. I mean you can't. Yeah,
I'm trying to find me. But but.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
When you watch them, And we talked about it with Casey,
it's in a one game scenario, anything could happen, all right,
and Purdue the team, he said, if anybody could beat Ukon,
he thinks it could be Purdue. They they're up forty
thirty six at the start the second half against Gonzaga
(38:54):
in the fifth seed, so they're they're having a tough
game tonight too. But Rob, what you notice about UKHN
they move the ball so well. The players are always moving.
It's the same thing I talk about in the NBA.
When you play five man basketball in today's NBA or
(39:19):
today's college.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Game, you're unique.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
And I'm telling you, it is so much harder to
guard a team when all five players or even four
of them or three of them are constantly moving and
the ball is flying.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
It's just hard.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
And then if those guys can shoot, it's gonna be tough.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
And that's the thing in the NBA.
Speaker 4 (39:45):
Whether it was the Spurs, you know who did it
at times, especially when they won it twenty fourteen, or
whether it was the Warriors who had that dynasty with
that ball flying around the perimeter. It's just for most teams,
even in college, they play that, you know, pick and
roll and spot up, and you know, it's just easier
(40:08):
to guard. Now, even if you have a great player
or two who gives the defense headaches, it's still easier
to guard you.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
And so that's the thing I see with U Khan.
Speaker 4 (40:19):
They got size, they got shooting, and because of their
style of play where they're constantly in motion and the
players are moving, they get a lot of backdoor cuts
and things like that. So even if they we're talking
about the Celtics, you know, sometimes relying too much on
the three ball, even if Yu kN is off from three,
(40:41):
they can still win because they get so many points
in the paint because of their cutting.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
And Chris, I did have Houston.
Speaker 4 (40:50):
I had, Okay, that's I mean, look, Houston's been knocking
on the door for a long time. Kelvin Sampson and
but yeah, yeah, so I was just trying to get
away from, you know what I mean, the Yukon even
though you're right, it was still a tournament to lose.
Speaker 5 (41:07):
So I was trying to find somebody, you know what
I mean, who could who could just maybe win a
Yukon would win again. When was the last time somebody
went back to back? Chris is if Florida was six?
Me uh here, I'm looking it up.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
I think it was. It was Florida six and seven, Florida,
That's what I thought.
Speaker 4 (41:28):
It came back incredible. Yeah, yeah, I mean this is
That's the thing with Danny Hurley. Yeah, these are new players,
and I get it, the portal and all that, but
still that's why.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
I was asking him about about just a competition.
Speaker 4 (41:41):
Well, look, I mean, we know the level of playing
college basketball isn't close to what it was even ten
years ago, forget twenty five years ago. But Yukon's working
with in the same parameters. It's not like they got
a ton of talent and nobody.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
Else, does you know what I mean? So I don't,
I don't.
Speaker 4 (41:59):
I can't hold it against them. But Rober with with
Danny Hurley, if he wins this championship, I mean two if,
because he's still got a long way to go, but
back to back championships, he'd be one of the few
that have multiple ones. Right, we talked to you, get
on Beheim, you get on Iszo. These are guys that
(42:21):
are legends. They tell me they all got one us. Yeah,
I mean Valvano, I mean the late Great.
Speaker 5 (42:28):
I mean there's a lot of coaches who got won
Chris and then Yolog's career.
Speaker 4 (42:32):
So to get to this early in his career, at
least with a big time programs at Rhode Island, before
it would be.
Speaker 3 (42:39):
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