November 28, 2025 • 40 mins
🎙️ Hour 2 of The Odd Couple!
Rob Parker and former NFL All-Pro safety Kerry Rhodes bring you a special Black Friday edition of The Odd Couple! The guys open Hour 2 by breaking down the Baltimore Ravens and asking the big question: who’s to blame — QB Lamar Jackson or head coach John Harbaugh? Then, Dallas Cowboys analyst Calvin Watkins joins the show to talk all things Dallas, including their quick turnaround at the right time and their real shot at the playoffs. All that and more in Hour 2! 🔥🎧
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Coming up in about twenty eight minutes, Calvin Watkins, the
Dallas Morning News Cowboys reporter. Calvin's been around for a
long time. I know him in New York. We'll talk
with him. Cowboys ride high all of a sudden, Yes
they are. That big win against Philadelphia and another big
(01:18):
win against the Chiefs. Wow, ain't nobody talking about Jerry Jones?
Is moron.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
We haven't heard that, lady. Yeah, they're just waiting. They're
just waiting for another chance, but right now they cannot
do it. I like the Cowboys right now, I mean
and offensively like. I like them in Detroit next Thursday
against the Line. If they win that one, I think
they're they're gonna run the table. Yeah, I mean, that's
a big game. And the Lions are scuffling a little bit.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
They're gonna be without some of their weapons and they
can't get any pressure on the quarterback right now.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
I'm just Jordan Love had all day he did No.
The Lions are in trouble. You fall, you fall in line,
and you start losing some of those games you're supposed
to win early, and they catch up to you.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
They sure do.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Also, Fuzzy Zeller, the golfer has passed a where we'll
talk about his legacy and you know where it fits
in what should be there, what shouldn't be there. So
we got a lot of stuff to get to. But
I mean, talk about a bummer of a game to watch.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Forget about.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
It wasn't that one of the Bengals to win or lose,
or the Ravens to win.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Or lose.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Just was a terrible game from the turnover standpoint, and
Lamar was awful. Just three turnovers. They lose a game
thirty two to fourteen. I don't know that a couple
of touchdowns, taking off the board, fumbles just Lamar tossed
the ball up at the goal line at the two
(02:41):
or three yard like like like just kind of flicked it.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
I don't know what it was, but there Baltimore.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Lost four fumbles, including two by Lamar, and he also
threw an interception, so he had the three and just
a really bad game. There's six and six in second place.
It's to have a chance at it because of course
Steelers are just one game ahead of them, so and
they play each other twice exactly, so I have two
(03:09):
games so it can be decided there or whatnot. But
I'm gonna start with you, Carrie. I mean, I'm not
here to defend Lamar, but I'm not so sure that
it's just Lamar. When I see how bad the Ravens
are this season.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Yeah it isn't. But this game, I'm putting it on Lamar. Okay,
and you know, you know I'm a big Lamar supporter
from day one. This is the worst Lamar has played
since his rookie year. He really looked bad. And it's
not just this game, it's the last three.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
He has no touchdowns the last the last three five interceptions.
Is that it or five.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Turnover five interceptions? Yeah, five turnovers. But this is the
worst he's looked in a while.
Speaker 5 (03:50):
Now.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
I don't know if it's health, and I'm not going
to even get into that because it doesn't really matter
if you're out there playing I say it all the time,
if you're out there playing your fair game. And so
for him to come out there and be so casual
and lacks of days ago with the ball and just
loose with the ball like you have to protect the
ball to win, doesn't matter how good you five year
when he was just like he just threw the ball
(04:13):
up like yeah, just it's not it's not sound football.
And that comes to that comes from top. But as
a star player, you got to know that, especially with
the Baltimore Ravens history in these last three years or
so in the playoffs with chances to win, they never
take care of the ball. So to go into a
big game, to go into a big game like this
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and you be Lamar Jackson and to go, and it.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Was a big game. You know what, the Bengals at home.
You're at home, Joe Burrow's first game back. Some russ
gonna be on him, but you already know what you're
at stake. And to lose like they did in that
fashion to a three and eight Bengals team.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
And Rob those games happen, but when you are one
in five, those games can't happen.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
You gotta be perfect from here on out. And so the.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Casual nature of the way that he played in that game,
he was missing easy throws, he wasn't on time.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
It did not look good at all.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
And so for this Ravens team, I know a lot
of people are gonna try to bury him.
Speaker 6 (05:15):
Now.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Obviously they're six and six and they don't look like
the team we thought. It's not over. But if they're
gonna win.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
When we talked about them having all the success they have,
we give Lamar allow the credit. When they lose this way,
you gotta give him some blame too. And so I'm
just gonna be on record and say this is one
of the worst performances I've seen of him.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
That's fair.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
But I got somebody else on you to heat some
blame on you got John Harbaugh, because you know why,
it ain't just about the offense. They couldn't get off
the field. Defensively, they've struggled. We saw them blow game
one of the season they had they scored forty points.
Lamar put on a clintic of course, Okay, yeah, fump turnovers, fumbles,
(05:56):
defense couldn't stop the bill. I mean, like, let's be
it has been an awful year for all facets of
the Ravens. At some point, can you stop saying, Okay,
John Harball won a Super Bowl back ten years, eight
years ago, whenever it was like it was a long
time ago to me every year since they had Lamar
(06:20):
and disappointingly when you look at them and go, dude,
they got everything you should you need and they haven't
been able to get to that next step. How long
do you keep doing the same thing with John Harball
and not trying to make a fix or change. And
I'm gonna give you one. And the difference is he
did win, So I understand that for the first few years. Okay,
(06:42):
you still believe, well, he won, he got us there,
let's give him a shot. But you remember in Tampa
Bay with Tony Dungee couldn't win, like they had an
unbelievable defense, had everything. Tony Dungee every year couldn't win.
Finally said okay, they let him go, bought and John
(07:04):
Gruden and he won the Super Bowl, like like I've
seen this happen and one guy might be able to
get you to a certain point. But he had since
he's had Lamar, they haven't done sloppy play, just mistakes
in that AFC game championship game wasn't a championship game
(07:24):
against the against Kansas City in Baltimore was eight flowers
like fumbled at the like they always make the mistakes
uh last year against uh the Buffalo Mark and like
like in their stars, these aren't random players like right
(07:45):
to them, Like seriously, everybody, owe the throat. No no, no,
catch that ball. That ball thrown to you, Okay, you're open,
catch the ball. Like this keeps happening. And you could say, well,
you you can't blame the coach because the players aren't
making plays. But let me tell you this, yes you can,
(08:05):
because when the players make plays, we give the coach credit.
Oh he got them broughting up, he got them ready
to play. Right, So we give the coach credit when
stuff goes good, he gets a new contract, he gets
a raise, all of this, but when his players aren't focused,
aren't doing you gotta also give him blame as well.
(08:27):
One goes with the other. It's not either or unless
they win the Super Bowl. I would fire John Harball
at the end of the season. I would I need
somebody new. I don't want to waste another year with Lamar. Okay, Like,
don't kid yourself. The Packers didn't do what they needed
(08:48):
to do during Aaron Rodgers. After they won to twenty ten,
they never got back. How many times did we watch
defense give up forty points in the playoff game? You
could go talk about Aaron Rodgers and this dude, how
many how how many times did they lose where Aaron
Rodgers never got the ball back?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Oh, Rob, you just love it. I'm telling you, I
watched the game.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
You know what I'm talking about where he There was
a game against Arizona those a year they went to
the Super Bowl. Right, Aaron Rodgers throws a hail Mary,
remember that to tie the game Arizona against the ball.
They marched down and win the game. He never touched them.
And then you go, well, Aaron Rodgers fail in.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
The playoffs, the one against Tom Brady, you kick a
field goal or not, thank you ball hand to win
the game.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Yeah, how Matt Lafortunately have been run out of Green Bay.
I'm sorry, I want Aaron Rodgers to throw an interception
of incompletion or pick. Okay, but in no way I'm
kicking with that little time left with Brady getting the
ball back.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
And so all I'm saying is, at some point, Lamar
ain't endless shrimp at the buffet because it's gonna run out.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
At some point.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
And right now it's not looking pretty on the longevity
of what he can do as being the Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
He's getting hurt and we knew that.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
We knew that was gonna be a possibility with all
the running he's doing one hundred, So you're definitely right,
you have to maximize the kid.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
I'm at this point I think you have to start
to look at it and go, what is the constant
and not working? It's just not it doesn't feel good,
the chemistry. Something is off on that team, and I
give it. I'm with you, and I love to watch
Lamar play.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
It was painful to watch that kid.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
It was it was right, yes, like I in my
mind whenever I see situations like that happen, especially with
people that have been targeted in the past about their
play or their style of play or what they can
do what they can't do, the fact that he was
so bad, Like I knew today was going to be
a terrible day, like for me, Like I was like, right,
they're gonna they're gonna dissect this and be like I
(10:56):
told you, like I don't.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Want to hear all that.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
You know how good in the kid is, but you
have one bad game like this and it's just magnified too.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Absolutely, and and and you if you want to referendum
on his career, stop. Okay, the MVPs he should have
won last year. They jacked them off on that one,
which was bad. But but eight seven seven ninety nine
on Fox is the telephone number eight seven seven nine
nine six sixty three sixty nine. And if you're watching
(11:24):
the Ravens, where are you? Who is to blame here?
What needs to change? I just don't think you could
bring John Harball back, Like like seriously, I remember when
Jim Harball you know they they was you remember he
had the They went to the Super Bowl once and
the NFC Championship game like three times in his four
(11:46):
years or something. And sometimes you need a new messenger.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
And he lost to his brother. Yep, that was the
Super Bowl. Remember that when the lights went out?
Speaker 7 (11:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Yes, changed the whole game. Somebody kicked the plug out
eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox, We want to
hear from you?
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Where are you?
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Is this a Lamar issue? Is this a John Harbar issue?
Of the Derek Henry cost him of two games or
this shot the season? There's plenty of blameing going around,
right the blame pie. I don't think we have a
big enough blame pod. No, it ain't a sweet potato
pie a but it's a blame pie, all right. It
is The Odd Couple on a Funky Flashback Friday, Rob Parker,
Kerry Rhoades right here on Fox Sports Radio, and you
(12:28):
know what you need to do, stick.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
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Speaker 1 (13:19):
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is our telephone number. We're talking about the ravens Lamar.
Who's the blame Lamar? Jim Harbor, John Harbaugh. With the
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that it can just pop up at the top of
your screen when you're ready to go. All right, don't
forget Calvin Watkins coming up in about eight minutes. He
covers the Cowboys for the Dallas Morning News. We'll get
to him, but we want to get to you. Eight seven,
seven ninety nine on Fox. Who's the blame for the
debaco in Baltimore? That six and six? Of course they
still have a chance to win the division and to
go to the playoffs. But man, this has been an
(14:24):
awful season. Yeah, it's not. I don't think anybody saw
this one coming at all.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
But let's go.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Let's go to the calls and see what they think
about this situation in Baltimore. We got Malcolm in Delaware.
You're on with the Odd Couple. Man, how are you?
Speaker 5 (14:37):
Thank you for taking my call? Fine, Happy holidays, you know,
Carry and Rob. I enjoy your show because I have
very often enjoyed your analysis. It seems spot on about
how these teams have developed this year.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Thank you appreciate that.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
Now I have an idea that it would go well
with what was just talked about about the Baltimore Ravens,
which is I think the Kansas City Chiefs at six
and six are doing surprisingly poorly. Most people before the
season began would not have seen them playing five hundred ball,
but maybe being in the winning column.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
No, no doubt about it.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Nobody had them might have been the only person in
America said that the Chiefs wouldn't make the playoffs?
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Am I right?
Speaker 5 (15:24):
My favorite joke about it is that I think now
Taylor Swift may be looking to data tight end.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
In the Patriots on the bearn Henry's in New England.
That's very good. Thanks for the call.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Appreciated, appreciate you eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
So we got it. Let's see, we got Martin. We
got Martin in Florida. You're on with the Okabaman, are
you Martin Martin?
Speaker 2 (15:54):
You're there? All right, let's go. Uh.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Andre in Massachusetts, you're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
What's up, Drake?
Speaker 7 (16:06):
How you doing?
Speaker 4 (16:07):
Thanks creaking the call isten Happy belated Thanksgiving.
Speaker 7 (16:09):
I couldn't be with you yesterday, but I wanted you know.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
We know that Rob Parker, he don't take the holidays,
no doubt what you had to do and I'm here
towards town. Family was in town, so we had to
go to.
Speaker 10 (16:21):
A movie so I couldn't call in more.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
When I checked my feet, I saw you were handling business.
So happy belated Thanksgiving. There's no two ways about it
for me to blame his on Lamar Jackson, the two
times MVP heavyweights, the crown upon the head of the king,
all right, and this season back and forth losing a game.
How are you gonna let Joe Burrow, fresh off the
(16:43):
injury reserve, come through and steal your thunder, Lamar, This
is supposed it is super Bowl season for this team,
and I've said perform and have to say it again.
The Ravens are right there with the Buffalo Bills in
terms of being the old two Bills, four straight super
Ball and couldn't get it done, couldn't get over the top.
Never mind Dan Marino, who we keep going back to,
(17:06):
who broke through and made a Super Bowl in his
second year and never returned. So Lamar, he's at the
head of that list for me in terms of he's
always a bridesmaid and never a bride and so yet
because the AFC North isn't what we expected to be,
Burroughs injury, Steelers back and forth.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
They still have a chance to break through and make
the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
But for him, his window and the excuses that they're
starting to run out. Yeah, and it's a certain important time.
It's going to be a Bill Russell Wilt Chamberlain type
of thing where Bill or Mahomes or whoever's going to
get all the championship and you know, maybe Lamar gets
one at the you know, maybe he gets one or two,
but it's going to affect his legacy. Thanks taking the call.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
I love it. Yes, let's go out. I've got another call.
We got Alice and Pittsburgh couple.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
How are you doing?
Speaker 7 (17:55):
Hi, guys?
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Happy Thanksgiving? Alice? You know I gotta asked, did you
cook yesterday? What did you cook?
Speaker 11 (18:04):
I did? I made a whole. I made a thirteen
pound turkey for two people. My family was all in
New York.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Atl Not a minute for two people a thirteen pound turkey.
She could have invited us, we would have. He would
have came through, Alice.
Speaker 7 (18:16):
I made.
Speaker 11 (18:18):
I make candy jams, I made stuffing, I made corn
and peas. I had rolls, pumpkin pies.
Speaker 7 (18:24):
I made.
Speaker 11 (18:26):
But I was a really good dinner. Yeah, if I
knew you guys, what are some food? Yes? These twenty people?
Speaker 1 (18:35):
All right, next time I come through Pittsburgh because I
usually go to a Pirates game in the summer, I'll
let you know.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Maybe we meet down at the ballpark. Okay, okay, all right, cook,
I'm Polish.
Speaker 11 (18:43):
It's Stallions, all right. So anyway, you know what, I
was sort of happy yesterday, Chiefs lost, Raven's lost.
Speaker 7 (18:50):
Good day.
Speaker 11 (18:50):
But anyway, I don't think that it was just all
on Lamar. They all look bad. It made it looks bad.
It was like a team effort. Derrick Henry didn't even
look good.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
They defensively, they couldn't stop the Bengals could that.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
He couldn't get off the field.
Speaker 11 (19:05):
It wasn't Yeah, it wasn't just on Lamar. I don't think.
I think it was the whole team.
Speaker 10 (19:10):
I just they looked off yesterday.
Speaker 7 (19:12):
But Alice, this season is what.
Speaker 11 (19:14):
I expected, Alice, I thought the Ravens.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Yeah, Alice.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
With all that being said, though, did you did you
think that Lamar looked like Lamar?
Speaker 7 (19:21):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (19:21):
And now he did not, I'll give you that.
Speaker 7 (19:23):
No, he did peel terrible.
Speaker 11 (19:24):
He looked terrible and he's and then he had he's
just on the sidelines looking like all dejected, like you
know what it was on you? It was like a
lot of it was on him. Yeah that it was
a whole team yesterday. It was a team flus, no doubt.
Speaker 7 (19:39):
All right, Alice, I don't know what.
Speaker 11 (19:42):
Well, do you know what, guys, next time you come
through Pittsburgh, let me know because I'm a really good
cook and I will definitely make dinner for you.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
All right, Well, we appreciate that, Thank you, Alice. Yes,
eight seven, seven ninety nine. On Fox, we got we
got another one. We got Albert in Riverside. You own
the couple? Man, how are you?
Speaker 10 (19:59):
I'm doing good man? That's doing it?
Speaker 4 (20:01):
Rob?
Speaker 7 (20:01):
How was that lost for mac and cheese?
Speaker 2 (20:03):
No, we didn't get any of you know what happened?
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Rob g went to Costcos and he got there early
or whatever to get.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
In and they were already sold out, so.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
We didn't get done all. Yeah, being Alex, we were
upset last night.
Speaker 10 (20:16):
We were ripening it up all all week. I was
ready to hear interaction for it.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Yeah, bummed out, bummed dang.
Speaker 10 (20:22):
But yeah, on the mar it's his fault man. Look,
I think he came back too early.
Speaker 6 (20:27):
Like the Ravens are.
Speaker 10 (20:28):
Playing well without him for a couple of weeks, the
defense was saying, well, the backup quarterback is doing okay,
but just watching him out there, he doesn't look healthy.
Like he's not running in the pocket.
Speaker 7 (20:38):
He's not.
Speaker 10 (20:38):
He's not getting scrambling out there getting big plays. He's
playing like a statue quarterback. And yeah, he's easy to
get to right now. And yeah, he's not cleaned the same.
And I think he rushed coming back. I think he
could have waited one more week and then came back
because he's not the same quarterback now ya right now?
Speaker 3 (20:53):
And even picking back on top of that, Rob, thanks
for the call. He's not running, he's not being lamar,
but he's also not seeing the field.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Yeah, it's a lot of things. Yeah, appreciate the call.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox, will squeeze one
more Am. We'll get to Steve de Sega and then
we'll get to Calvin Watkins. So, Ray from Massachusetts, you're
on the couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
What's up right?
Speaker 7 (21:17):
How are you doing?
Speaker 5 (21:17):
Brother?
Speaker 7 (21:18):
I'd love listening to your radio show.
Speaker 12 (21:21):
Okay, I just was related by my Bears are doing good.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Oh yeah, you heard me go crazy to start the show.
I don't know if you did. He was running hot,
he was running hot earlier.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (21:35):
I'm I'm I'm a I'm born and raised to speak
for a mass but ironically I'm a Bears fan, coach fan,
and a Chicago Blackhawks fan. And people ask me if
I'm from Chicago, but no, because a Bears, well, one
of my favorite any animals. And I'm half Indian.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Okay, so nice, you know, But I'm just.
Speaker 12 (21:59):
I'm just glad that we're doing good and hopefully, you know,
we overcome the chief heads and finally, like you know,
Calen Williams is playing good, better than he did last year.
He's not getting sacked as many times, but you know
the one again.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
No doubt. Thanks, thanks for the call, appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
We know the Bears are doing doing well and that
was a big win, right as big as he gets huge?
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Yeah, no doubt. All right, Uh, let's get you caught up.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
We got Calvin Watkins coming up from the Dallas Morning
News befirst Steve de Seger.
Speaker 13 (22:36):
Let's start with college football. They just ended the first
quarter Number two ranked and undefeated Indiana only leads seven
to three at Purdue and end of the first quarter.
Number three and undefeated Texas A and MS scoreless at
sixteenth ranked Texas. Marcel Reid, star quarterback for the Aggies,
left with what appeared to be a non contact leg
injury in the opening period. Arch Manning of Texas so
(22:58):
far just four of eleven passing for twenty one yards.
Coming up in a half an hour on Fox TV
Top twenty five matchup Arizona at Arizona State, Number four
Georgia A winner at Georgia Tech sixteen to nine. Seventh
ranked Old Miss won at Mississippi State thirty eight. Nineteen
Mississippi coach Lane Kiffin will decide tomorrow if he's leaving
for LSU or not. Trinidad. Chambliss of Old Miss had
(23:21):
four touchdown passes today, three hundred and fifty nine yards
through the air. Thirteenth ranked Utah with three touchdowns in
the fourth quarter one at Kansas thirty one. Twenty one
Iowa won at Nebraska Eastley, New Mexico in double overtime,
defeated San Diego State, Boise State edged Utah State, Vanderbilt
gave coach Clark Lee a new six year contract. The
Chicago Bears are now nine and three after winning at
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Philadelphia today twenty four to fifteen. Eagles offense on their
first nine drives, had only seven first downs and they
were trailing twenty four to nine at the time. Kyle
Manungai one hundred and thirty yards rushing in a touchdown.
DeAndre Swift one hundred and twenty five yards rushing in
a score for the Bears. Dealers quarterback Aaron Rodgers will
return to play Sunday with the broken left wrists. The
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Bucks say quarterback Baker Mayfield is trending toward playing this
weekend despite a spraying left shoulder. Texans quarterback c J.
Stroud will start. He's clear concussion protocol. The Vikings will
start rookie Max sprosmer As. JJ McCarthy is still in protocol.
Giants quarterback Jackson Dart will start Monday night after missing
time with a concussion. Among the eleven NBA games tonight,
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Cleveland is leading fifty six fifty five late first half
at Atlanta twenty points for Donovan Mitchell and men's college
hoops at Madison Square Garden number five, Connecticut beat thirteenth
ranked Illinois seventy four to sixty one, and NHL shootout
wins for Anaheim, Philadelphia and Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Back to you, Thank you, Steve, appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
It is the odd couple on a funky flashback Friday.
Rob Parker and Carrie Rhoads in for kelvin Washington. The
crew will be back in full of fac on Monday
after to the holiday, but.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Right now, let's welcome in. Calvin Watkins.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
The Dallas Morning News covers the Cowboys for forever.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
In the day.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
I know, Calvin, Uh, your left came back, but you've
been covering the Cowboys for how many years now?
Speaker 7 (25:15):
I think that's his number sixteen.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Unbelievable number sixteen, saying how to carry Rhoads? What's going on?
Speaker 2 (25:24):
What's that big cal what's that big Calvin? How you doing?
Speaker 6 (25:26):
Man?
Speaker 2 (25:26):
I'm good, happy Thanksgiving to you and the family.
Speaker 7 (25:29):
Everything good, you got, everybody's good, everybody's there, everybody's good.
My son's visited that I made some ducks DU's breast.
He loved it.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Very nice, very nice. I've had duck too.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
I had uh Buffalo duck wings and New Wallan were
really good at Emeralds restaurant, of course, buff buffalo duck wing.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Don't look don't look at me like that. I don't
want it.
Speaker 7 (25:57):
Making that big money, Calvin.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
I ain't doing it on the duck though, I ain't
doing it.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
And when I've been into when I've been in the
mine of my wings, I thought I was biting on
the daffy duck.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
But oh man, Calvin, do not laugh at him.
Speaker 8 (26:10):
Don't give it.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Don't give him that sad I forget. You know it,
You know it.
Speaker 7 (26:14):
It is sad. It is sad because I saw a
whole dunk and I couldn't buy it.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Come on, you know what, Calvin, always remember this.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Ducks don't go to college, they don't get married, and
they don't buy houses.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
What else are they here for? You know, they're here
for us? All right?
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Anyway, let's go here. And what about them Cowboys? My goodness, gracious,
what a win against the Chiefs. I mean, that's a
that's a huge win and a blow to the Chiefs,
but also a big boost to the Dallas Cowboys. And
they're playing, well, that's back to back. They're down twenty
one nothing to Philadelphia. They win that game and then
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they followed that up with a game against the Chiefs.
Right now, their confidence has to be sky high.
Speaker 7 (27:00):
It really is. They've won their last three games. Going
into this stretch, they were like three five and one.
They had not won consecutive games all year. They had
not been the team for a plus five hundred record,
and they've done that. Now they beat the Eagles and
they beat the Chiefs. Two teams have in the Super
Bowl last year. This is the first time they've won
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three in a row since the twenty twenty three season.
And they're in pretty good shape now. They still got
a lot of work to do. If they went out,
they have a chance to win the division. That would
give them eleven wins. They can afford one more loss maybe,
but they still got work to do to get to
the wildcard. But they're in good shape.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
How about I'm going to be in Detroit. You'll be
there right when they played? Yeah, So I'll see you
in Detroit going to that game. Yeah, I'm going to
that game.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Say that.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Yeah, I'm gonna go there. I want to go to
the funeral. I mean I want to here we go, there,
we go.
Speaker 7 (27:58):
Well, you're gonna wear black, you know? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (28:00):
There you go. Well, I just want you to know Calvin.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Before the season started, I did say Lion's no playoffs.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
And Chiefs no playoffs. That's not bad.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Okay, before the season. Before the season anyway, just talk
about the matchup. The Lions are hurting a little bit.
They lost. They got a gift from the Giants. They
should have lost that game too, and they they gotta
do some winning. This is a huge game in Detroit.
Speaker 5 (28:27):
It is.
Speaker 7 (28:28):
He didn't say how Dan Campbell was like winter Hole
and I think there's seven and five and he understands
the significance of that loss. That was a tough loss
to have. And now here come the resurgence of the
Cowboys that they have to handle. And the same Brown,
he's got an ankle injury.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
He's going to be out for a couple of weeks, out.
Speaker 7 (28:49):
A couple of weeks. You know. Ever since he did
that dance, everything's been downhill.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
That's right, no doubt about it. We need to make
sure we put that out.
Speaker 7 (28:58):
There out there. But I think the biggest issue with
the Lions is that they lost two of their coordinators.
One is with the Jets, one with the Bears. And
as much as we talk about you losing players, losing coaches,
especially the coordinators. To me, also a detriment to your club.
(29:20):
And I think Dan Campbell still calling the plays. This
is this is still a good game. This is still
a good football team. So let's not make it seem like.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
They're Yeah, but they're now fifteen and two like they
were you that's.
Speaker 7 (29:31):
Why not Yeah, they're not. No, but this is like
a playoff game. It has to be. Calvi is fighting
for their lives here and the Lions are too in
a lot of ways.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Calvin, I got I got two things for you. I
want to first talk about the I guess the impact
that Brian Schottenheimer's had there. Obviously, when people heard about
the higher there's a lot of pushbacks saying he was
the wrong guy and so well, a lot of people said,
I think you were on that train. No, no, But
I want to talk about him and the culture change
(30:04):
within an organization. It looks like the guys are really
buying into what he has to say, and he's been
masterful calling games as the coordinator as well. Talk about
that part of it. But also I want to talk
about the defensive turned around too. Obviously, this defense was
Abismo to start the season. Right now, seems like they've
gotten the flow and they you know, they've figured out
(30:25):
who they want to be defensively as well.
Speaker 7 (30:27):
Bryan Schanhammer has always been a good people person and
he relates well to the players. As you guys know,
his dad was a head coach. He was a players coach,
old school and shot. He's kind of old school for
a lot of new school principles, so he resonates with
the players. He's always been a good play caller. When
he's with the Jets of Seattle, he always knows what
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he's doing there. And then he's got two Dynamics deceivers
and George Pickers and city Land to help defensively. The
trade getting Clinton Williams and Logan Wilson was this. This
was a major boost to the Cowboys and also getting
some guys who were injured back on the field line
back of Tomorrow and Obashan coming back. Getting savonn Revel
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who's a rookie in a big corner and you know
you need big corners these days. And they got him
in the third round out of East Carolina, and they
love how he plays, and he finally came back. So
getting some guys back on the field helps the scheme.
They made a little tweak to the scheme. They get
over a five man front.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Yes, so you got.
Speaker 7 (31:31):
Kenny Clark, Quinton Williams and Olsa the Yazoo just rushing
the passer. Normally we say you rush the pastor from
the edges. Right. The Cowboys said, well, we don't have
a good great edge rushers. We got him up front
in the interior and and and they are just it's
been a fantastic turnaround defensively for this team.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
And the only issue I have is with the last
name Shottenheim. Are any big playoff games?
Speaker 3 (31:56):
I want you to oh Man trying to make a
legacy thing.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
What are you doing? He could he could, no.
Speaker 7 (32:05):
He could not. He talked about that was his dad.
The Cowboys are going to Denver, uh, and you know
they got they got tore up off the frame in Denver.
And he said, I had some bad memories in Denver.
He meant that with his dad, you know. Yeah so.
But but one of the interesting things about him is
that we were talking to him today and he says,
(32:26):
I can't worry about the past, right, And Kerry knows
this to be played. Just what happened.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
He played for the Jets, That's all you need to know.
So he a little too hard.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
Calvin Hey, that was from New York too.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
He we winning years, guys were all right.
Speaker 7 (32:45):
Yeah, he didn't play for Rex. Yeah, and so so Shan.
He understands the dynamic of you know what, it's a
one week at a time business.
Speaker 5 (32:54):
Right.
Speaker 7 (32:54):
But some of these losses that they had early in
the years, like Carolina and Chicago and even Arizona, and
that was a bad loss. That was a whole in Arizona.
And they don't even have Colin Murray, right, they might
bite them down the stretch. If they would have wanted
these he would have been the Arizona. They're on a
four game one street and they're much better. They in
a much better position right right now. The need a
(33:15):
little bit of help and they gotta win out almost.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
All right, last thing, we got less than a minute.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Uh, Dak Prescott has a chance at the MVP, because
I expect Matthew Stafford to start hearing that point. At
some point there'll be one or two bad stakers and
the Cowboys might run the table. I'm just telling you
that people are going to look because Dak has played
really well this year.
Speaker 7 (33:38):
Yes he has, Yes he has. Only in the year.
I thought he was an MVP candidate. Then he got
slumped off a little bit. I think he might it
might be more realistic for him to get the Comeback
Player of the Year award and clashes. You know, he
tore his hamshare. He must like the last seven eight games.
But I think he did come Back Player of the Year.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
All right, there you go. He would not be winning
the MVP. I'm all right.
Speaker 7 (34:00):
Calvin, pray for carry.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Calvin Wackets of course find Dallas Cowboys beat writer for
the Dallas Morning News.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Thank you, my friend. We appreciate you. I have a
going cal Thank you. All right. Coming up next, we'll talk.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
About Fuzzy Zella, the golfer who's passed away and his legacy.
What should or shouldn't be included. We're gonna have that conversation. Next,
it is the Odd Couple on a Funky Flashback Friday.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Rob Parker carry road right here on Fox Sports Radio.
Stick and stay unless you still don't believe in Caleb
in the US of a.
Speaker 8 (34:38):
Oh, be sure to catch live editions of the Odd
Couple with Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington weekdays at seven
pm Eastern, four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and
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Speaker 1 (34:51):
Now, this is funky Flashback Friday right here. Nice job, Alex.
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had the passing of Fuzzy.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Zeller, the golf m right who. I think he won
two majors.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
He won the Masters in his first appearance, right yeah,
it was only one of three.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
And this struck me because you went to he was
seventy four years old, and of course I read his
bio and include in his bio was one of those
moments in your life where I'm just going to read it.
(36:09):
I'm just gonna say, well, what the part that's in here?
I should say this?
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Right?
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Whose career basically the two time Master's champ, whose career
was tainted by a racially insensitive joke about Tiger Woods,
has died. According to a longtime colleague, he was seventy four.
But my point is that was included in the lead
of his obituary. Yeah, inbounds, out of bounds where you
(36:36):
want to man.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
That thing is very sensitive because obviously we all make
mistakes and we do things, we say things that we regret.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
As a human. That shouldn't be the lead of his obituary.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
It doesn't matter if that's it's not the it's not
the lead, But you mean so it shouldn't be included
in the lead at all. No, Okay, I don't think
that's I don't think that's in I don't think you
can just say with one moment that that's indicative of
who he is, and so to say that his the
whole arc of his life in his career as a professional,
that being being included in it.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
It can be a footnote, I think, but it's bigger.
I'm going to say it's bigger than a footnote.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
You think it's bigger than This was against Tiger Woods
at a time where he wanted to make Fried chicken
and watermelon jokes and whatnot, which was really at that time,
you got to remember where we were in this country,
what was going on. Okay, here's this young black golfer
who is just you know, taking the world by storm,
(37:39):
and he lost his endorsements.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
I mean, he.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
Suffered, that's on point. He paid for it. So why
did you talk about that in his obituary?
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Because when you're do an obituary about somebody, it's your
whole life, good, bad or indifferent.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
Yes it is.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
I have not seen a lot of people with the
negative things they've done in their life and obituary. Oh yes,
really you reading, I've seen a lot of them, A
lot of people that you.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Think that when they put Richard Nixon's obituary, that you think,
despite he was president whatever, that that him stepping down
because of the Watergates scandal is not in the lead
of his Yes, who was forced to resign as president,
that that that's going to lead the obituary no matter what.
(38:28):
Because as a president, to have to be forced to resign,
which is really what happens, it's a huge part of
the story. And I'm just saying, like it can't be
just all these other great accolades.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
That's not what obituary is.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Obituary is now, I'm not talking about your family obituary
who's written by or your uncle and they don't talk
about that your cousin was in rehab or anything. Okay,
that's not that's a family obitu that's different. We're talking
about a obituary written by journalists who are looking at
and you cannot Despite Fuzzy Zeller's two masters, which you
(39:04):
just pointed out, it's not it does. It says two
times a winner, right, So it's not like that was
eliminated and the only thing they talked about was Tiger Wood, but.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
It has to be included.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
It was such a big deal, such a big uh
point in his career, and I think what hurt him
is that he never won again after that, to maybe
have a redemption story and where he's able to be
like who overcame something that could attain it his career.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
Do you understand? That's what and yes, and that's how
I feel. Right, I'm like, that can't be the lead.
That can't be the guy's lead, because yes, we live
and we all make mistakes, but we're gonna pass away.
They're gonna talk about the thing that we did bad
and that's gonna be the lead thing like that.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
Not not everybody, but it would have to be depending
on how big it is. I'm just saying not everything,
like if you had a hiccup or something, sure, but
in that case with Tiger Woods, want goes on to
be one of the greatest callers of all time at
that at that time, it was such a slap and
it was just him being racist, like really with the
(40:12):
fried chicken, Like, look like that was so what like,
really is that what you're coming with? And I think
that's why people like it really hurt him and the
way people looked at him. They used to love the
guy's personality and he was all this just it just
came off really bad and it's something that people stuck
with him.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
And that's yeah, when you say it that way, with
the media like or right reporters making that right that call,
I can see it's no doubt.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
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Coming up in about twenty eight minutes, Calvin Watkins, the
Dallas Morning News Cowboys reporter. Calvin's been around for a
long time. I know him in New York. We'll talk
with him. Cowboys ride high all of a sudden, Yes
they are. That big win against Philadelphia and another big
(01:18):
win against the Chiefs. Wow, ain't nobody talking about Jerry Jones?
Is moron.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
We haven't heard that, lady. Yeah, they're just waiting. They're
just waiting for another chance, but right now they cannot
do it. I like the Cowboys right now, I mean
and offensively like. I like them in Detroit next Thursday
against the Line. If they win that one, I think
they're they're gonna run the table. Yeah, I mean, that's
a big game. And the Lions are scuffling a little bit.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
They're gonna be without some of their weapons and they
can't get any pressure on the quarterback right now.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
I'm just Jordan Love had all day he did No.
The Lions are in trouble. You fall, you fall in line,
and you start losing some of those games you're supposed
to win early, and they catch up to you.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
They sure do.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Also, Fuzzy Zeller, the golfer has passed a where we'll
talk about his legacy and you know where it fits
in what should be there, what shouldn't be there. So
we got a lot of stuff to get to. But
I mean, talk about a bummer of a game to watch.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Forget about.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
It wasn't that one of the Bengals to win or lose,
or the Ravens to win.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Or lose.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Just was a terrible game from the turnover standpoint, and
Lamar was awful. Just three turnovers. They lose a game
thirty two to fourteen. I don't know that a couple
of touchdowns, taking off the board, fumbles just Lamar tossed
the ball up at the goal line at the two
(02:41):
or three yard like like like just kind of flicked it.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
I don't know what it was, but there Baltimore.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Lost four fumbles, including two by Lamar, and he also
threw an interception, so he had the three and just
a really bad game. There's six and six in second place.
It's to have a chance at it because of course
Steelers are just one game ahead of them, so and
they play each other twice exactly, so I have two
(03:09):
games so it can be decided there or whatnot. But
I'm gonna start with you, Carrie. I mean, I'm not
here to defend Lamar, but I'm not so sure that
it's just Lamar. When I see how bad the Ravens
are this season.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Yeah it isn't. But this game, I'm putting it on Lamar. Okay,
and you know, you know I'm a big Lamar supporter
from day one. This is the worst Lamar has played
since his rookie year. He really looked bad. And it's
not just this game, it's the last three.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
He has no touchdowns the last the last three five interceptions.
Is that it or five.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Turnover five interceptions? Yeah, five turnovers. But this is the
worst he's looked in a while.
Speaker 5 (03:50):
Now.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
I don't know if it's health, and I'm not going
to even get into that because it doesn't really matter
if you're out there playing I say it all the time,
if you're out there playing your fair game. And so
for him to come out there and be so casual
and lacks of days ago with the ball and just
loose with the ball like you have to protect the
ball to win, doesn't matter how good you five year
when he was just like he just threw the ball
(04:13):
up like yeah, just it's not it's not sound football.
And that comes to that comes from top. But as
a star player, you got to know that, especially with
the Baltimore Ravens history in these last three years or
so in the playoffs with chances to win, they never
take care of the ball. So to go into a
big game, to go into a big game like this
(04:35):
and you be Lamar Jackson and to go, and it.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Was a big game. You know what, the Bengals at home.
You're at home, Joe Burrow's first game back. Some russ
gonna be on him, but you already know what you're
at stake. And to lose like they did in that
fashion to a three and eight Bengals team.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
And Rob those games happen, but when you are one
in five, those games can't happen.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
You gotta be perfect from here on out. And so the.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Casual nature of the way that he played in that game,
he was missing easy throws, he wasn't on time.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
It did not look good at all.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
And so for this Ravens team, I know a lot
of people are gonna try to bury him.
Speaker 6 (05:15):
Now.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Obviously they're six and six and they don't look like
the team we thought. It's not over. But if they're
gonna win.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
When we talked about them having all the success they have,
we give Lamar allow the credit. When they lose this way,
you gotta give him some blame too. And so I'm
just gonna be on record and say this is one
of the worst performances I've seen of him.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
That's fair.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
But I got somebody else on you to heat some
blame on you got John Harbaugh, because you know why,
it ain't just about the offense. They couldn't get off
the field. Defensively, they've struggled. We saw them blow game
one of the season they had they scored forty points.
Lamar put on a clintic of course, Okay, yeah, fump turnovers, fumbles,
(05:56):
defense couldn't stop the bill. I mean, like, let's be
it has been an awful year for all facets of
the Ravens. At some point, can you stop saying, Okay,
John Harball won a Super Bowl back ten years, eight
years ago, whenever it was like it was a long
time ago to me every year since they had Lamar
(06:20):
and disappointingly when you look at them and go, dude,
they got everything you should you need and they haven't
been able to get to that next step. How long
do you keep doing the same thing with John Harball
and not trying to make a fix or change. And
I'm gonna give you one. And the difference is he
did win, So I understand that for the first few years. Okay,
(06:42):
you still believe, well, he won, he got us there,
let's give him a shot. But you remember in Tampa
Bay with Tony Dungee couldn't win, like they had an
unbelievable defense, had everything. Tony Dungee every year couldn't win.
Finally said okay, they let him go, bought and John
(07:04):
Gruden and he won the Super Bowl, like like I've
seen this happen and one guy might be able to
get you to a certain point. But he had since
he's had Lamar, they haven't done sloppy play, just mistakes
in that AFC game championship game wasn't a championship game
(07:24):
against the against Kansas City in Baltimore was eight flowers
like fumbled at the like they always make the mistakes
uh last year against uh the Buffalo Mark and like
like in their stars, these aren't random players like right
(07:45):
to them, Like seriously, everybody, owe the throat. No no, no,
catch that ball. That ball thrown to you, Okay, you're open,
catch the ball. Like this keeps happening. And you could say, well,
you you can't blame the coach because the players aren't
making plays. But let me tell you this, yes you can,
(08:05):
because when the players make plays, we give the coach credit.
Oh he got them broughting up, he got them ready
to play. Right, So we give the coach credit when
stuff goes good, he gets a new contract, he gets
a raise, all of this, but when his players aren't focused,
aren't doing you gotta also give him blame as well.
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One goes with the other. It's not either or unless
they win the Super Bowl. I would fire John Harball
at the end of the season. I would I need
somebody new. I don't want to waste another year with Lamar. Okay, Like,
don't kid yourself. The Packers didn't do what they needed
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to do during Aaron Rodgers. After they won to twenty ten,
they never got back. How many times did we watch
defense give up forty points in the playoff game? You
could go talk about Aaron Rodgers and this dude, how
many how how many times did they lose where Aaron
Rodgers never got the ball back?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Oh, Rob, you just love it. I'm telling you, I
watched the game.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
You know what I'm talking about where he There was
a game against Arizona those a year they went to
the Super Bowl. Right, Aaron Rodgers throws a hail Mary,
remember that to tie the game Arizona against the ball.
They marched down and win the game. He never touched them.
And then you go, well, Aaron Rodgers fail in.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
The playoffs, the one against Tom Brady, you kick a
field goal or not, thank you ball hand to win
the game.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Yeah, how Matt Lafortunately have been run out of Green Bay.
I'm sorry, I want Aaron Rodgers to throw an interception
of incompletion or pick. Okay, but in no way I'm
kicking with that little time left with Brady getting the
ball back.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
And so all I'm saying is, at some point, Lamar
ain't endless shrimp at the buffet because it's gonna run out.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
At some point.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
And right now it's not looking pretty on the longevity
of what he can do as being the Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
He's getting hurt and we knew that.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
We knew that was gonna be a possibility with all
the running he's doing one hundred, So you're definitely right,
you have to maximize the kid.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
I'm at this point I think you have to start
to look at it and go, what is the constant
and not working? It's just not it doesn't feel good,
the chemistry. Something is off on that team, and I
give it. I'm with you, and I love to watch
Lamar play.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
It was painful to watch that kid.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
It was it was right, yes, like I in my
mind whenever I see situations like that happen, especially with
people that have been targeted in the past about their
play or their style of play or what they can
do what they can't do, the fact that he was
so bad, Like I knew today was going to be
a terrible day, like for me, Like I was like, right,
they're gonna they're gonna dissect this and be like I
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told you, like I don't.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Want to hear all that.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
You know how good in the kid is, but you
have one bad game like this and it's just magnified too.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Absolutely, and and and you if you want to referendum
on his career, stop. Okay, the MVPs he should have
won last year. They jacked them off on that one,
which was bad. But but eight seven seven ninety nine
on Fox is the telephone number eight seven seven nine
nine six sixty three sixty nine. And if you're watching
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the Ravens, where are you? Who is to blame here?
What needs to change? I just don't think you could
bring John Harball back, Like like seriously, I remember when
Jim Harball you know they they was you remember he
had the They went to the Super Bowl once and
the NFC Championship game like three times in his four
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years or something. And sometimes you need a new messenger.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
And he lost to his brother. Yep, that was the
Super Bowl. Remember that when the lights went out?
Speaker 7 (11:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Yes, changed the whole game. Somebody kicked the plug out
eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox, We want to
hear from you?
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Where are you?
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Is this a Lamar issue? Is this a John Harbar issue?
Of the Derek Henry cost him of two games or
this shot the season? There's plenty of blameing going around,
right the blame pie. I don't think we have a
big enough blame pod. No, it ain't a sweet potato
pie a but it's a blame pie, all right. It
is The Odd Couple on a Funky Flashback Friday, Rob Parker,
Kerry Rhoades right here on Fox Sports Radio, and you
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Speaker 2 (12:30):
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Speaker 1 (13:19):
It is the couple, Rob Parker, Kerry Rhoades here on
Fox Sports Radio eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox
is our telephone number. We're talking about the ravens Lamar.
Who's the blame Lamar? Jim Harbor, John Harbaugh. With the
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that it can just pop up at the top of
your screen when you're ready to go. All right, don't
forget Calvin Watkins coming up in about eight minutes. He
covers the Cowboys for the Dallas Morning News. We'll get
to him, but we want to get to you. Eight seven,
seven ninety nine on Fox. Who's the blame for the
debaco in Baltimore? That six and six? Of course they
still have a chance to win the division and to
go to the playoffs. But man, this has been an
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awful season. Yeah, it's not. I don't think anybody saw
this one coming at all.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
But let's go.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Let's go to the calls and see what they think
about this situation in Baltimore. We got Malcolm in Delaware.
You're on with the Odd Couple. Man, how are you?
Speaker 5 (14:37):
Thank you for taking my call? Fine, Happy holidays, you know,
Carry and Rob. I enjoy your show because I have
very often enjoyed your analysis. It seems spot on about
how these teams have developed this year.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Thank you appreciate that.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
Now I have an idea that it would go well
with what was just talked about about the Baltimore Ravens,
which is I think the Kansas City Chiefs at six
and six are doing surprisingly poorly. Most people before the
season began would not have seen them playing five hundred ball,
but maybe being in the winning column.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
No, no doubt about it.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Nobody had them might have been the only person in
America said that the Chiefs wouldn't make the playoffs?
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Am I right?
Speaker 5 (15:24):
My favorite joke about it is that I think now
Taylor Swift may be looking to data tight end.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
In the Patriots on the bearn Henry's in New England.
That's very good. Thanks for the call.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Appreciated, appreciate you eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
So we got it. Let's see, we got Martin. We
got Martin in Florida. You're on with the Okabaman, are
you Martin Martin?
Speaker 2 (15:54):
You're there? All right, let's go. Uh.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Andre in Massachusetts, you're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
What's up, Drake?
Speaker 7 (16:06):
How you doing?
Speaker 4 (16:07):
Thanks creaking the call isten Happy belated Thanksgiving.
Speaker 7 (16:09):
I couldn't be with you yesterday, but I wanted you know.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
We know that Rob Parker, he don't take the holidays,
no doubt what you had to do and I'm here
towards town. Family was in town, so we had to
go to.
Speaker 10 (16:21):
A movie so I couldn't call in more.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
When I checked my feet, I saw you were handling business.
So happy belated Thanksgiving. There's no two ways about it
for me to blame his on Lamar Jackson, the two
times MVP heavyweights, the crown upon the head of the king,
all right, and this season back and forth losing a game.
How are you gonna let Joe Burrow, fresh off the
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injury reserve, come through and steal your thunder, Lamar, This
is supposed it is super Bowl season for this team,
and I've said perform and have to say it again.
The Ravens are right there with the Buffalo Bills in
terms of being the old two Bills, four straight super
Ball and couldn't get it done, couldn't get over the top.
Never mind Dan Marino, who we keep going back to,
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who broke through and made a Super Bowl in his
second year and never returned. So Lamar, he's at the
head of that list for me in terms of he's
always a bridesmaid and never a bride and so yet
because the AFC North isn't what we expected to be,
Burroughs injury, Steelers back and forth.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
They still have a chance to break through and make
the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
But for him, his window and the excuses that they're
starting to run out. Yeah, and it's a certain important time.
It's going to be a Bill Russell Wilt Chamberlain type
of thing where Bill or Mahomes or whoever's going to
get all the championship and you know, maybe Lamar gets
one at the you know, maybe he gets one or two,
but it's going to affect his legacy. Thanks taking the call.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
I love it. Yes, let's go out. I've got another call.
We got Alice and Pittsburgh couple.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
How are you doing?
Speaker 7 (17:55):
Hi, guys?
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Happy Thanksgiving? Alice? You know I gotta asked, did you
cook yesterday? What did you cook?
Speaker 11 (18:04):
I did? I made a whole. I made a thirteen
pound turkey for two people. My family was all in
New York.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Atl Not a minute for two people a thirteen pound turkey.
She could have invited us, we would have. He would
have came through, Alice.
Speaker 7 (18:16):
I made.
Speaker 11 (18:18):
I make candy jams, I made stuffing, I made corn
and peas. I had rolls, pumpkin pies.
Speaker 7 (18:24):
I made.
Speaker 11 (18:26):
But I was a really good dinner. Yeah, if I
knew you guys, what are some food? Yes? These twenty people?
Speaker 1 (18:35):
All right, next time I come through Pittsburgh because I
usually go to a Pirates game in the summer, I'll
let you know.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Maybe we meet down at the ballpark. Okay, okay, all right, cook,
I'm Polish.
Speaker 11 (18:43):
It's Stallions, all right. So anyway, you know what, I
was sort of happy yesterday, Chiefs lost, Raven's lost.
Speaker 7 (18:50):
Good day.
Speaker 11 (18:50):
But anyway, I don't think that it was just all
on Lamar. They all look bad. It made it looks bad.
It was like a team effort. Derrick Henry didn't even
look good.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
They defensively, they couldn't stop the Bengals could that.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
He couldn't get off the field.
Speaker 11 (19:05):
It wasn't Yeah, it wasn't just on Lamar. I don't think.
I think it was the whole team.
Speaker 10 (19:10):
I just they looked off yesterday.
Speaker 7 (19:12):
But Alice, this season is what.
Speaker 11 (19:14):
I expected, Alice, I thought the Ravens.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Yeah, Alice.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
With all that being said, though, did you did you
think that Lamar looked like Lamar?
Speaker 7 (19:21):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (19:21):
And now he did not, I'll give you that.
Speaker 7 (19:23):
No, he did peel terrible.
Speaker 11 (19:24):
He looked terrible and he's and then he had he's
just on the sidelines looking like all dejected, like you
know what it was on you? It was like a
lot of it was on him. Yeah that it was
a whole team yesterday. It was a team flus, no doubt.
Speaker 7 (19:39):
All right, Alice, I don't know what.
Speaker 11 (19:42):
Well, do you know what, guys, next time you come
through Pittsburgh, let me know because I'm a really good
cook and I will definitely make dinner for you.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
All right, Well, we appreciate that, Thank you, Alice. Yes,
eight seven, seven ninety nine. On Fox, we got we
got another one. We got Albert in Riverside. You own
the couple? Man, how are you?
Speaker 10 (19:59):
I'm doing good man? That's doing it?
Speaker 4 (20:01):
Rob?
Speaker 7 (20:01):
How was that lost for mac and cheese?
Speaker 2 (20:03):
No, we didn't get any of you know what happened?
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Rob g went to Costcos and he got there early
or whatever to get.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
In and they were already sold out, so.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
We didn't get done all. Yeah, being Alex, we were
upset last night.
Speaker 10 (20:16):
We were ripening it up all all week. I was
ready to hear interaction for it.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Yeah, bummed out, bummed dang.
Speaker 10 (20:22):
But yeah, on the mar it's his fault man. Look,
I think he came back too early.
Speaker 6 (20:27):
Like the Ravens are.
Speaker 10 (20:28):
Playing well without him for a couple of weeks, the
defense was saying, well, the backup quarterback is doing okay,
but just watching him out there, he doesn't look healthy.
Like he's not running in the pocket.
Speaker 7 (20:38):
He's not.
Speaker 10 (20:38):
He's not getting scrambling out there getting big plays. He's
playing like a statue quarterback. And yeah, he's easy to
get to right now. And yeah, he's not cleaned the same.
And I think he rushed coming back. I think he
could have waited one more week and then came back
because he's not the same quarterback now ya right now?
Speaker 3 (20:53):
And even picking back on top of that, Rob, thanks
for the call. He's not running, he's not being lamar,
but he's also not seeing the field.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Yeah, it's a lot of things. Yeah, appreciate the call.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox, will squeeze one
more Am. We'll get to Steve de Sega and then
we'll get to Calvin Watkins. So, Ray from Massachusetts, you're
on the couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
What's up right?
Speaker 7 (21:17):
How are you doing?
Speaker 5 (21:17):
Brother?
Speaker 7 (21:18):
I'd love listening to your radio show.
Speaker 12 (21:21):
Okay, I just was related by my Bears are doing good.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Oh yeah, you heard me go crazy to start the show.
I don't know if you did. He was running hot,
he was running hot earlier.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (21:35):
I'm I'm I'm a I'm born and raised to speak
for a mass but ironically I'm a Bears fan, coach fan,
and a Chicago Blackhawks fan. And people ask me if
I'm from Chicago, but no, because a Bears, well, one
of my favorite any animals. And I'm half Indian.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Okay, so nice, you know, But I'm just.
Speaker 12 (21:59):
I'm just glad that we're doing good and hopefully, you know,
we overcome the chief heads and finally, like you know,
Calen Williams is playing good, better than he did last year.
He's not getting sacked as many times, but you know
the one again.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
No doubt. Thanks, thanks for the call, appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
We know the Bears are doing doing well and that
was a big win, right as big as he gets huge?
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Yeah, no doubt. All right, Uh, let's get you caught up.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
We got Calvin Watkins coming up from the Dallas Morning
News befirst Steve de Seger.
Speaker 13 (22:36):
Let's start with college football. They just ended the first
quarter Number two ranked and undefeated Indiana only leads seven
to three at Purdue and end of the first quarter.
Number three and undefeated Texas A and MS scoreless at
sixteenth ranked Texas. Marcel Reid, star quarterback for the Aggies,
left with what appeared to be a non contact leg
injury in the opening period. Arch Manning of Texas so
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far just four of eleven passing for twenty one yards.
Coming up in a half an hour on Fox TV
Top twenty five matchup Arizona at Arizona State, Number four
Georgia A winner at Georgia Tech sixteen to nine. Seventh
ranked Old Miss won at Mississippi State thirty eight. Nineteen
Mississippi coach Lane Kiffin will decide tomorrow if he's leaving
for LSU or not. Trinidad. Chambliss of Old Miss had
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four touchdown passes today, three hundred and fifty nine yards
through the air. Thirteenth ranked Utah with three touchdowns in
the fourth quarter one at Kansas thirty one. Twenty one
Iowa won at Nebraska Eastley, New Mexico in double overtime,
defeated San Diego State, Boise State edged Utah State, Vanderbilt
gave coach Clark Lee a new six year contract. The
Chicago Bears are now nine and three after winning at
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Philadelphia today twenty four to fifteen. Eagles offense on their
first nine drives, had only seven first downs and they
were trailing twenty four to nine at the time. Kyle
Manungai one hundred and thirty yards rushing in a touchdown.
DeAndre Swift one hundred and twenty five yards rushing in
a score for the Bears. Dealers quarterback Aaron Rodgers will
return to play Sunday with the broken left wrists. The
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Bucks say quarterback Baker Mayfield is trending toward playing this
weekend despite a spraying left shoulder. Texans quarterback c J.
Stroud will start. He's clear concussion protocol. The Vikings will
start rookie Max sprosmer As. JJ McCarthy is still in protocol.
Giants quarterback Jackson Dart will start Monday night after missing
time with a concussion. Among the eleven NBA games tonight,
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Cleveland is leading fifty six fifty five late first half
at Atlanta twenty points for Donovan Mitchell and men's college
hoops at Madison Square Garden number five, Connecticut beat thirteenth
ranked Illinois seventy four to sixty one, and NHL shootout
wins for Anaheim, Philadelphia and Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Back to you, Thank you, Steve, appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
It is the odd couple on a funky flashback Friday.
Rob Parker and Carrie Rhoads in for kelvin Washington. The
crew will be back in full of fac on Monday
after to the holiday, but.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Right now, let's welcome in. Calvin Watkins.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
The Dallas Morning News covers the Cowboys for forever.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
In the day.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
I know, Calvin, Uh, your left came back, but you've
been covering the Cowboys for how many years now?
Speaker 7 (25:15):
I think that's his number sixteen.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Unbelievable number sixteen, saying how to carry Rhoads? What's going on?
Speaker 2 (25:24):
What's that big cal what's that big Calvin? How you doing?
Speaker 6 (25:26):
Man?
Speaker 2 (25:26):
I'm good, happy Thanksgiving to you and the family.
Speaker 7 (25:29):
Everything good, you got, everybody's good, everybody's there, everybody's good.
My son's visited that I made some ducks DU's breast.
He loved it.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Very nice, very nice. I've had duck too.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
I had uh Buffalo duck wings and New Wallan were
really good at Emeralds restaurant, of course, buff buffalo duck wing.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Don't look don't look at me like that. I don't
want it.
Speaker 7 (25:57):
Making that big money, Calvin.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
I ain't doing it on the duck though, I ain't
doing it.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
And when I've been into when I've been in the
mine of my wings, I thought I was biting on
the daffy duck.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
But oh man, Calvin, do not laugh at him.
Speaker 8 (26:10):
Don't give it.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Don't give him that sad I forget. You know it,
You know it.
Speaker 7 (26:14):
It is sad. It is sad because I saw a
whole dunk and I couldn't buy it.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Come on, you know what, Calvin, always remember this.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Ducks don't go to college, they don't get married, and
they don't buy houses.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
What else are they here for? You know, they're here
for us? All right?
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Anyway, let's go here. And what about them Cowboys? My goodness, gracious,
what a win against the Chiefs. I mean, that's a
that's a huge win and a blow to the Chiefs,
but also a big boost to the Dallas Cowboys. And
they're playing, well, that's back to back. They're down twenty
one nothing to Philadelphia. They win that game and then
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they followed that up with a game against the Chiefs.
Right now, their confidence has to be sky high.
Speaker 7 (27:00):
It really is. They've won their last three games. Going
into this stretch, they were like three five and one.
They had not won consecutive games all year. They had
not been the team for a plus five hundred record,
and they've done that. Now they beat the Eagles and
they beat the Chiefs. Two teams have in the Super
Bowl last year. This is the first time they've won
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three in a row since the twenty twenty three season.
And they're in pretty good shape now. They still got
a lot of work to do. If they went out,
they have a chance to win the division. That would
give them eleven wins. They can afford one more loss maybe,
but they still got work to do to get to
the wildcard. But they're in good shape.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
How about I'm going to be in Detroit. You'll be
there right when they played? Yeah, So I'll see you
in Detroit going to that game. Yeah, I'm going to
that game.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Say that.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Yeah, I'm gonna go there. I want to go to
the funeral. I mean I want to here we go, there,
we go.
Speaker 7 (27:58):
Well, you're gonna wear black, you know? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (28:00):
There you go. Well, I just want you to know Calvin.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Before the season started, I did say Lion's no playoffs.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
And Chiefs no playoffs. That's not bad.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Okay, before the season. Before the season anyway, just talk
about the matchup. The Lions are hurting a little bit.
They lost. They got a gift from the Giants. They
should have lost that game too, and they they gotta
do some winning. This is a huge game in Detroit.
Speaker 5 (28:27):
It is.
Speaker 7 (28:28):
He didn't say how Dan Campbell was like winter Hole
and I think there's seven and five and he understands
the significance of that loss. That was a tough loss
to have. And now here come the resurgence of the
Cowboys that they have to handle. And the same Brown,
he's got an ankle injury.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
He's going to be out for a couple of weeks, out.
Speaker 7 (28:49):
A couple of weeks. You know. Ever since he did
that dance, everything's been downhill.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
That's right, no doubt about it. We need to make
sure we put that out.
Speaker 7 (28:58):
There out there. But I think the biggest issue with
the Lions is that they lost two of their coordinators.
One is with the Jets, one with the Bears. And
as much as we talk about you losing players, losing coaches,
especially the coordinators. To me, also a detriment to your club.
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And I think Dan Campbell still calling the plays. This
is this is still a good game. This is still
a good football team. So let's not make it seem like.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
They're Yeah, but they're now fifteen and two like they
were you that's.
Speaker 7 (29:31):
Why not Yeah, they're not. No, but this is like
a playoff game. It has to be. Calvi is fighting
for their lives here and the Lions are too in
a lot of ways.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Calvin, I got I got two things for you. I
want to first talk about the I guess the impact
that Brian Schottenheimer's had there. Obviously, when people heard about
the higher there's a lot of pushbacks saying he was
the wrong guy and so well, a lot of people said,
I think you were on that train. No, no, But
I want to talk about him and the culture change
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within an organization. It looks like the guys are really
buying into what he has to say, and he's been
masterful calling games as the coordinator as well. Talk about
that part of it. But also I want to talk
about the defensive turned around too. Obviously, this defense was
Abismo to start the season. Right now, seems like they've
gotten the flow and they you know, they've figured out
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who they want to be defensively as well.
Speaker 7 (30:27):
Bryan Schanhammer has always been a good people person and
he relates well to the players. As you guys know,
his dad was a head coach. He was a players coach,
old school and shot. He's kind of old school for
a lot of new school principles, so he resonates with
the players. He's always been a good play caller. When
he's with the Jets of Seattle, he always knows what
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he's doing there. And then he's got two Dynamics deceivers
and George Pickers and city Land to help defensively. The
trade getting Clinton Williams and Logan Wilson was this. This
was a major boost to the Cowboys and also getting
some guys who were injured back on the field line
back of Tomorrow and Obashan coming back. Getting savonn Revel
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who's a rookie in a big corner and you know
you need big corners these days. And they got him
in the third round out of East Carolina, and they
love how he plays, and he finally came back. So
getting some guys back on the field helps the scheme.
They made a little tweak to the scheme. They get
over a five man front.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Yes, so you got.
Speaker 7 (31:31):
Kenny Clark, Quinton Williams and Olsa the Yazoo just rushing
the passer. Normally we say you rush the pastor from
the edges. Right. The Cowboys said, well, we don't have
a good great edge rushers. We got him up front
in the interior and and and they are just it's
been a fantastic turnaround defensively for this team.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
And the only issue I have is with the last
name Shottenheim. Are any big playoff games?
Speaker 3 (31:56):
I want you to oh Man trying to make a
legacy thing.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
What are you doing? He could he could, no.
Speaker 7 (32:05):
He could not. He talked about that was his dad.
The Cowboys are going to Denver, uh, and you know
they got they got tore up off the frame in Denver.
And he said, I had some bad memories in Denver.
He meant that with his dad, you know. Yeah so.
But but one of the interesting things about him is
that we were talking to him today and he says,
(32:26):
I can't worry about the past, right, And Kerry knows
this to be played. Just what happened.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
He played for the Jets, That's all you need to know.
So he a little too hard.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
Calvin Hey, that was from New York too.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
He we winning years, guys were all right.
Speaker 7 (32:45):
Yeah, he didn't play for Rex. Yeah, and so so Shan.
He understands the dynamic of you know what, it's a
one week at a time business.
Speaker 5 (32:54):
Right.
Speaker 7 (32:54):
But some of these losses that they had early in
the years, like Carolina and Chicago and even Arizona, and
that was a bad loss. That was a whole in Arizona.
And they don't even have Colin Murray, right, they might
bite them down the stretch. If they would have wanted
these he would have been the Arizona. They're on a
four game one street and they're much better. They in
a much better position right right now. The need a
(33:15):
little bit of help and they gotta win out almost.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
All right, last thing, we got less than a minute.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Uh, Dak Prescott has a chance at the MVP, because
I expect Matthew Stafford to start hearing that point. At
some point there'll be one or two bad stakers and
the Cowboys might run the table. I'm just telling you
that people are going to look because Dak has played
really well this year.
Speaker 7 (33:38):
Yes he has, Yes he has. Only in the year.
I thought he was an MVP candidate. Then he got
slumped off a little bit. I think he might it
might be more realistic for him to get the Comeback
Player of the Year award and clashes. You know, he
tore his hamshare. He must like the last seven eight games.
But I think he did come Back Player of the Year.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
All right, there you go. He would not be winning
the MVP. I'm all right.
Speaker 7 (34:00):
Calvin, pray for carry.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Calvin Wackets of course find Dallas Cowboys beat writer for
the Dallas Morning News.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Thank you, my friend. We appreciate you. I have a
going cal Thank you. All right. Coming up next, we'll talk.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
About Fuzzy Zella, the golfer who's passed away and his legacy.
What should or shouldn't be included. We're gonna have that conversation. Next,
it is the Odd Couple on a Funky Flashback Friday.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
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Speaker 8 (34:38):
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Speaker 1 (34:51):
Now, this is funky Flashback Friday right here. Nice job, Alex.
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had the passing of Fuzzy.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Zeller, the golf m right who. I think he won
two majors.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
He won the Masters in his first appearance, right yeah,
it was only one of three.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
And this struck me because you went to he was
seventy four years old, and of course I read his
bio and include in his bio was one of those
moments in your life where I'm just going to read it.
(36:09):
I'm just gonna say, well, what the part that's in here?
I should say this?
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Right?
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Whose career basically the two time Master's champ, whose career
was tainted by a racially insensitive joke about Tiger Woods,
has died. According to a longtime colleague, he was seventy four.
But my point is that was included in the lead
of his obituary. Yeah, inbounds, out of bounds where you
(36:36):
want to man.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
That thing is very sensitive because obviously we all make
mistakes and we do things, we say things that we regret.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
As a human. That shouldn't be the lead of his obituary.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
It doesn't matter if that's it's not the it's not
the lead, But you mean so it shouldn't be included
in the lead at all. No, Okay, I don't think
that's I don't think that's in I don't think you
can just say with one moment that that's indicative of
who he is, and so to say that his the
whole arc of his life in his career as a professional,
that being being included in it.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
It can be a footnote, I think, but it's bigger.
I'm going to say it's bigger than a footnote.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
You think it's bigger than This was against Tiger Woods
at a time where he wanted to make Fried chicken
and watermelon jokes and whatnot, which was really at that time,
you got to remember where we were in this country,
what was going on. Okay, here's this young black golfer
who is just you know, taking the world by storm,
(37:39):
and he lost his endorsements.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
I mean, he.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
Suffered, that's on point. He paid for it. So why
did you talk about that in his obituary?
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Because when you're do an obituary about somebody, it's your
whole life, good, bad or indifferent.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
Yes it is.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
I have not seen a lot of people with the
negative things they've done in their life and obituary. Oh yes,
really you reading, I've seen a lot of them, A
lot of people that you.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Think that when they put Richard Nixon's obituary, that you think,
despite he was president whatever, that that him stepping down
because of the Watergates scandal is not in the lead
of his Yes, who was forced to resign as president,
that that that's going to lead the obituary no matter what.
(38:28):
Because as a president, to have to be forced to resign,
which is really what happens, it's a huge part of
the story. And I'm just saying, like it can't be
just all these other great accolades.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
That's not what obituary is.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Obituary is now, I'm not talking about your family obituary
who's written by or your uncle and they don't talk
about that your cousin was in rehab or anything. Okay,
that's not that's a family obitu that's different. We're talking
about a obituary written by journalists who are looking at
and you cannot Despite Fuzzy Zeller's two masters, which you
(39:04):
just pointed out, it's not it does. It says two
times a winner, right, So it's not like that was
eliminated and the only thing they talked about was Tiger Wood, but.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
It has to be included.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
It was such a big deal, such a big uh
point in his career, and I think what hurt him
is that he never won again after that, to maybe
have a redemption story and where he's able to be
like who overcame something that could attain it his career.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
Do you understand? That's what and yes, and that's how
I feel. Right, I'm like, that can't be the lead.
That can't be the guy's lead, because yes, we live
and we all make mistakes, but we're gonna pass away.
They're gonna talk about the thing that we did bad
and that's gonna be the lead thing like that.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
Not not everybody, but it would have to be depending
on how big it is. I'm just saying not everything,
like if you had a hiccup or something, sure, but
in that case with Tiger Woods, want goes on to
be one of the greatest callers of all time at
that at that time, it was such a slap and
it was just him being racist, like really with the
(40:12):
fried chicken, Like, look like that was so what like,
really is that what you're coming with? And I think
that's why people like it really hurt him and the
way people looked at him. They used to love the
guy's personality and he was all this just it just
came off really bad and it's something that people stuck
with him.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
And that's yeah, when you say it that way, with
the media like or right reporters making that right that call,
I can see it's no doubt.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
All right, odd couple our number three
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