September 10, 2025 • 33 mins
Rob and Kelvin debate whether New York Jets head coach Aaron Glenn made a rash decision by cutting kick returner Xavier Gipson following his costly fumble against the Pittsburgh Steelers. Plus, former All-Pro offensive tackle Lomas Brown swings by to discuss all the biggest headlines coming out of the Detroit Lions organization.
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Speaker 5 (01:56):
Well, before we get to that, let me just say,
I'm looking at the YouTube. Livestream comments yes, with the
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So take that. How you wail, Rob Parker? Are only
two comments? No, it was just from that last segment.
How about the other one?
Speaker 5 (02:18):
Someone else called me the father of the year for
what I thought that was kind of inappropriate, but it's okay, okay, Well,
letting your daughters get it, and then everyone else just answer, yeah,
everyone else is just saying that rider's mosquito.
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That person don't have kids. Whoever said that they don't
have kids.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Yeah, but any joke about kids stuff like, I can
do it with you because but then some people get
all tight.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
I can tell you don't have kids. We'll just be
joking right all right, here we go.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
So, as you mentioned, big news coming out of New
York the Jets in the wake of their loss on
Sunday to the Pittsburgh Steelers. As you recalled that game
where they were up by two scores. Actually Aaron Rodgers
marches them down, scores a touchdown. On the ensuing kickoff,
Xavier Gibson fumbles the ball. A couple of plays later,
Aaron Rodgers scores again. Suddenly a two score lead is
(03:01):
suddenly a deficit, and Pittsburgh goes on to win the game. Well,
Gibson was released relieved of his duties on Wednesday, and
when asked about it, Aaron Glenn put a message out
of the rest of his team that can.
Speaker 6 (03:15):
Listen, we released Xavier Gibson and we will be bringing
this mother. Guys were already brought one guy in like
Isaiah Williams, who I know, he was with us in Detroit.
I think twenty three of twenty four he was with us,
and then we're gonna look some guys that's in house.
And I want to be known that decisions that's made
(03:36):
are not rash decisions and they're another based off of
one incident. So and I will keep it at fat.
Xavier's a really good player and he's going to play
in this league. But I felt there was time for
us to move on another direction.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
This is where Aaron Glenn lost me. And he's playing
a very dangerous game. Here's the issue have he's saying
it wasn't rash or no. No, he felt like they
lost in the game. And that's what you do with players.
We just had Trey Wing go on and he talked
about it. If that was a better player and that happened,
would he be released today?
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Of course not. And you gotta be careful because players
see through that you used him as a scapegoat to
make yourself big and bad. Go cut a go gut
cut a.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Former Pro Bowl or somebody who made a big mistake
in a big situation. Now you got my attention. Oh my,
that guy was a Pro Bowl. That guy was a
really good player. Wow, cutting the loose hanging fruit, the
low hanging fruit and acting big and bad like you've
done something. You didn't do anything. This guy came in.
(04:45):
I read he had ten fumbles like this. That was
his tenth fumble. So guess what he does Sometimes he
fumbles the ball. I knew, So I just think you
better be careful. You got to back this up because
if somebody else, you've now set itself up.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
And then to get up.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
There and say it's not a raths decision, Yes it was,
because had you won the game.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
You think he would have been cut. No, you lost.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Let me put it on this kid, so it's not
on me. And then you got the nerve to say
he's a really good player and he's gonna play in
this league.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
I would have said, well, why did you let him go?
Why did you release him? Aaron Glenn? You is this on?
It makes no sense.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Aaron Glenn said, he's a really good player and he's
gonna play in this league. And it wasn't a rass decision.
He didn't cut the guy after week four, right, he fumbled.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
You felt like they lost.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
You blew my opening game as a coach, And now
I'm gonna.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Make you pay cause you did that to me. You
better be careful. Players.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Know what you're doing, which is making people people who
you think are lower level, who don't have a you know,
you know you can just discard whenever you want, because
because if that was one of their better players, ain't
no way that they're cutting them a week one because
(06:21):
they fumble. You can't be that. You can't play that game.
That comes back to bite you and people lose respect
for you if you start doing that and just picking
the low hanging fruit.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Listen, talent buys you a longer leash.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Right if you're Jalen Carter and I spit on somebody,
I spit on DK, you know, suspended the one game
he missed, or they were spending them another game they
weren't going to release him. We've seen guys do some
wild stuff, whether it be getting issues off the field,
on the field misplays. You know you don't let me
tell you who ain't getting kicked off the team? Who
made a fumbler mistake? Dearre Henry, perfect example, big time fumble.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Fourth quarter.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
The Bills are coming back one of the best running backs,
maybe the best outside of sain Kwan. However, you want
to do it fumbles, You know what you do, You
smack him on the helmet. He say, hey, we'll be
all right. You know we're gonna bounce back next game.
Don't worry about the big fellow. Don't even worry about it,
because that's Derrick Henry, and Derrick Henry ain't going nowhere.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Now.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Maybe you want to be careful smacking Lamar Jackson on
the head because he might push you and shove you
up a little bit and rough you up a little bit.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
That story for another day.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
But so that's that's an easier thing to do for
a guy who's a kick returner and who fumbles. But
the one thing I did here is when he said
we don't do these things based off never one incident.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Is what he said, never one incident. And so then
you and you brought up the fumbling.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
The only thing I can think is if this guy
between fumbling maybe was showing up late and again skill
set aside, meaning if he was great, we already know
they'd be making up excuses, they'd be finding ways. So
he must have done whether it continues to fumble and
practice stuff we never see right in practice, he.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Shouldn't have been out to you.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
And so when you're when you're that guy and you're
barely hanging on by a thread, you don't get the
luxury luxury of making a bunch of mistakes, let alone
a crucial and critical mistake. You just don't have that luxury.
Dere Henry is afforded that you're not. But I understand
the ideology of false bravado. You know, coming out pumping
(08:17):
you chinch is what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna if
you make mistakes, i'na let you go. So you want
to be careful of false bravado. But again, talent allows
you a lease. It gives you grace that when you're
a middling fledgling player you don't get. And another example
of this with Trey Wingo brought up earlier, but you know,
I watched the America's Team documentary Jimmy Johnson.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Trey brought him up.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
But watching that doc you see he was known for that,
like he was just known for There was a running
back who was filling in while the holdout, while it
was in his holdout, he was like, he fumbled up
a crucial play, cut him get out. And I think
Jimmy was a little more about that life than Aaron
w Obviously this is his first game.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
But Jimmy, he ain't gonna cut in it.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
But Jimmy was kind of a psychotic approach to how
this has to work.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
I get that you need to do your job, and
I'm not saying that people can't get cut. I just
think you gotta be careful because if next week they
lose a game because of another fumble or an interception,
or Justin Fields throws three interceptions, what would be of
course not of course.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
I had a bad game.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
You gotta be careful because I think it's not a
real message. Everybody knows why that why he was cut.
Xavier was cut because he just felt like he wasn't uh,
he's not a brand name player. I could just get
rid of him. He's it's easy, right. It doesn't make
(09:45):
your message resonate with people when you do it to
the low hanging fruit. That's really my thing. Like you
didn't gain anything in the locker room. Nobody goes holy,
they just got rid of he was a pro bowler
two years ago.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Oh my, what, oh wow?
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Oh oh now you got my attention. Nobody better than I.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
You know what they say, Coach made him escape goal.
That's messed up. I did. That's messed up. I don't.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
I'm not reading too far into it, because again he
was a kick returner. He fumbled in a crucial moment.
He mentioned, uh again, never one incident. So I'm looking
at it as he probably was on his last leg
and you had to nerve a fumble in a critical moment.
Get on up, out of here, We'll go get somebody else.
And he mentioned getting somebody for Detroit that they have
familiarity with and Ky Nooney if that got out, he's.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Out of here too. He's out of here too.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
It's gonna be like every week. We about to have kickers.
What's that movie Mark Wahlberg was in Invincible? We about
to have some tryouts?
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Who out here?
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Who out here is good in New York? Anybody ex?
Football player, high school players. You can't catch Jimmy Johnson.
I'm gonna use another example of what was gangster.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
There's difference between Jimmy Johnson and Aaron Right, but gangster
would be I don't even know how you can put
those no.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Because I'm using an example of what gangster is.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
Gangst is when Troy Aikman is your guy, he's your
Pro Bowl quarterback, and uh, what was the backup? They
forgot his name. I have to get it real quick.
But the backup comes in, goes on the run. They
win like six in a row, six in a row.
It gets into the to the NFC. It time to
getting too the postseason, and Jimmy Johnson looked at Troy
and was like, nah, were still rolling with the backup
because that didn't happen to a Pro Bowl guy like
(11:21):
a Troy Aikman. You're your quarterback. That is gangster right there.
To be like, no, we're gonna roll with this dude,
because you know, I believe he's hot. I believe he's
the right choice. And they end up they won a
playoff game or two, and then they end up losing
it without Troy playing. But I'm like, now, that's a
gangster coach move right there. You know, if Patrick Mahomes,
Justin Herbert or one of these guys is out for
a little while and you say, nah, go and have
(11:42):
a seat, even though he's backing healthy. Now we're gonna
keep rolling with this backup. That's not that's some gangster
coaching right there.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Yeah. I'm just I think it's dangerous, that's all because
I don't. I don't think you won over anybody. You
didn't win over the room to say, if you make
a mistake, can you gotta be And also what you've done,
you're gonna make play play a little different and like,
I can't make a mistake. Like that's not how you
want to play. You want to be natural. You don't
(12:08):
want to be thinking about that. That is that what
you want to do. Because everybody's not a star. Most
players can be interchanged, right, so, and everybody's not a star.
So now do I want to play tight? Oh my god,
I can't make a mistake. What's going on? I need
to do this. I'd rather be conservative rather than go
on full speed like all these other things. So you
got to be careful what you're asking for. I just
(12:29):
think your first game, your loss, is not the end
of the world. You won't even favorites in that game.
I know it was at home. I know you felt
like you should have won, but but it ain't the
end of the world. You didn't get embarrassed and the
guy missed, uh, you know, fumble three times or something
like that.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
But that's why I know it's personal for that guy,
meaning this is what he hasn't been doing or hasn't.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
That's why I think it's this guy, because I don't
think get anything.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
When they played better, what that they won the game
and he fumbled, he would not be cut.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
There's I think that this shows me.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Would you disagree with that? Had they won the game,
do you think he would have been cut?
Speaker 4 (13:10):
I think he would have been cut because it's an
expendable position, a returner.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
It's a position you wouldn't cut a player.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
It's not it's not a starting cornerback, it's not a
starting linebacker.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
That's an extendable change just to make a change.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
I mean, okay, people fumble all the time. That's whatever stuck.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
That's why I'm saying this must be an habitual line stepper.
He must be showing up late to practice, or he
must be dropping all the kickoffs in practice.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
And he shouldn't have been He shouldn't have been out.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
And they gave him a shot there like man, you
out of here, get out, you crazy, get out of here.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
They know that all they're doing is using him as
a scapegoat.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
But everybody who's that type of caliber player, they already
know they're on the line. They don't those guys know
if you're on special teams seventy five eighty five percent
of them on special teams for a reason. You're barely
fitting anywhere else. This is your only chance to stay
on the team. You better be special at least and
if if you've don't do anything, don't stand out in
a negative way. Dropping a fumble in a fourth quarter
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and you're befledgedly player that this fifty.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Three he had to ten fumbles. He's been around, he's
fumbled ten times. That's the point.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
No, But why.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Why why was he on the team because we need
somebody to go out there.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
For special teams.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Come on, you should have got the guy from the
sho't be, sir, fumble iis no that that's that can't
be a reputation. The man who fumbled Aaron Glenn. That's
Aaron Glenn who is trying to make this kid escape.
Goat for for him losing his first game?
Speaker 2 (14:33):
All right?
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Did Aaron Glenn make a mistake by cutting Exavier Gibson
following the untimely fumble during the Jets loss to Pittsburgh
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Speaker 4 (16:47):
Eight seven, seven and ninety nine on Fox, Aaron Glenn
Win ahead and let go the kick returner who fumbled
that costly one in that game. You believe it as
a scapegoat and that it wasn't necessary. I'll look it
at hey. When you're that guy, Flegedley player, you make
that critical mistake, it can happen. Eight seven, seven ninety
nine on Fox, Who.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
We Got Andrew? In Bakersfield, California. You're in the eyd
couple of Fox Sports Radio?
Speaker 2 (17:11):
What's up? Andrew?
Speaker 9 (17:13):
What's up? Guys? I agree with you, Rob. I think
it's the tale of two a a Rons. You got
Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Glenn lost me when he cuts Aaron Rodgers.
But anytime I see fungles, it's fun mentals and so
Aaron Glenn, I think he should have fired himself.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
Oh all right, came out with the smoke early, fired
myself at the one game. Let me tell you what
I'm not gonna do. I get his point of just
the idea that he lost he lost eight seven, seven
ninety nine On Fox, Who we Got Andrew?
Speaker 10 (17:44):
No?
Speaker 1 (17:44):
No, No, Who is that Andre? In Massachusetts? You're in
the eye couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Dre?
Speaker 10 (17:50):
How you doing?
Speaker 11 (17:51):
Thanks for taking the call listen. I got to push
back on Aaron Glenn cutting, cutting his player. You know,
it's getting the dog. He's he's going.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
I'll be honest with you, Dre. Your dog is turned
up when you turn and you call it odd couple.
Speaker 11 (18:08):
Right right, But you know he's like Aaron Glenn right now,
you know, and he's gone. You know it's a little
bit too much, you know, and he's got he's got
to calm down. But the point is the Jets played
a good game to be in that contest.
Speaker 10 (18:18):
Yes, they could have would have showed it.
Speaker 11 (18:19):
Fits and butts were candy nuts. I get that, But
we don't need this type of shock treatment after the
first game. In order to put yourself, you know, to
establish yourself base your leadership on putting people in position
to be success successful and inspiring them and your strategy.
You don't have to take this measure fits early in
the season. Now, if it's week eight or nine, maybe
(18:41):
you know, but I just think you're already the Jets
aren't making the playoffs and they're not making the super Bowl.
They played a heck of a game against the Steelers.
There's a lot to take from that that's positive. You
don't have to cut this guy. You can bench him,
you can make there's other ways to do this without
all of the shock and awe that that kind of
at the end of the day might under him and
the respect players might have a right.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Hard with a with a kick return like that. No,
it's not the idea.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
It's just that the idea because they he wouldn't have
cut him, Dre if they would have won the game.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
I know that for a fact. I just would have
made it. So I'm saying he might be acting up.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Scott in North Carolina, you're on the odd couple of
Fox Sports.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Why was he on your roster?
Speaker 9 (19:22):
Then?
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Scott? What's up buddy?
Speaker 10 (19:24):
What's up?
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Man?
Speaker 10 (19:26):
I mean, first of all, players get cut every day
every day.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Beats like pay the full.
Speaker 10 (19:31):
Every day every day. And this guy seemed to have
a history of fumbling, So let's knit that in the
right in there early in this season, especially when why.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Was he on the team? How do you make the team? Scott?
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Everybody, you're a better evaluator than if you put a
fumble lightest.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Guy on your roster.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
What did you expect he had nine fumbles coming into
the opener?
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Do you want me to give him.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
No, I'm saying to you, Scott, why was he on
the team. Why was he on the team?
Speaker 10 (19:59):
Every everybody gets second no, not nine fumbles.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Is the second chance? Come on, Scott, Come on, Scott, You're.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Better than this. This was bravado. This was Aaron Glenn
trying to flex his muscles. Come on, man, call it
what it is. Call it what it is.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
You really.
Speaker 10 (20:19):
I think there's Scott Scott.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Scott, name me, name me the other guy who got
cut this past week after game one because they made
a mistake in the NFL game.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
You can't give me another We don't.
Speaker 10 (20:30):
Know nobody we made the Eagles. We made trades right
after the.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Who they cut? Who they cut?
Speaker 10 (20:40):
You got traded a couple of people.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
It's not Come on, Scott.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
Transactions happen after every game, Rob, stop it who we got?
Speaker 10 (20:49):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (20:49):
What is that trading? Trading in Missouri. You're on the
couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Hey, y'all, hear me, we got your trading.
Speaker 10 (20:58):
Hey, I'm with cal on this one. Man. I don't know.
I mean, I understand where you're coming from, but as
soon as I heard the news, I didn't really bat
an eye at it. It's just the NFL.
Speaker 11 (21:07):
I feel like it happens all the time, but people
get cut every day.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
I just think it's I think I think you better.
You better be careful. You better be careful not to
have fake bravado because players will see through that. When
you cut somebody, you better make sure that you're cutting them,
not to make yourself look better or to get yourself
out of an excuse of losing.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
This is where that's where I disagree.
Speaker 10 (21:31):
This is where I don't agree.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
We watched you know what I'm saying. You know what
I'm saying. We watch Hard Knocks every year. I don't care.
But people get cut all the time. It's not not
not people.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Not your first game where you're blaming the kids because
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Come on, it's terrible.
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That happens, especially the kick returner Lois Brown. Allegedly it's
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Speaker 2 (22:34):
Lomas Brown seventy five on X Lomans.
Speaker 10 (22:36):
What's up man, Hey, hey fellows. I apologize. You know,
I'm getting a little old and stuff and you cut
your phone, you put it on silent, and you forgot
to put it back on. So I apologize for earlier.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
You know, fell asleep and took a nice little midday nap.
That's all this. It's all good, Lomas. You know that
big time Lomas. Let's go here. Game one. How surprised
were you? How you know?
Speaker 1 (23:02):
They got tossed around like a rag doll. The offense
was very vanilla bean cheese. That's good, but.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
It was ugly. It was an ugly opener for the Lions.
Speaker 10 (23:14):
It was ugly. Rob I had the witness that I
had to call in on radio and it was bad man.
And you know, Rob Calvin, I chalk it up to
these guys not playing in the in the preseason. I mean,
I know I couldn't have did that. I played eighteen
years in this league. And if you were to tell
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me that I couldn't practice or you know, my first
real action would be the first game of a regular season.
I mean it would be almost impossible to do. So
those guys were rusty, they weren't ready. Green Bay them
boys was ready, man, they were rolling man, and they
put it on us on Sunday.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
So let me ask you that because Rob and I,
you know, we sit here, we have a former player
talk about this, this big issue of you got the
rams out here, they don't really ever play anybody in preseason.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
That's kind of becoming a new trend.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Is this, How do we then assess the first couple
of weeks if teams are kind of getting fluid and
now we're practicing, I really haven't played with this player
and we're getting out there, how do you go about
week one and maybe even week two.
Speaker 10 (24:17):
I mean, Cale man, you got to play these guys.
I mean, I don't know any other way of getting
your body ready to not only receive punishment, but the
dish punishment out. I don't know how you get your
timing down with strippted scrimmages. I just don't understand how
you get used to an atmosphere where seventy eight thousand
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people in there, when they yelling, when the lights are bright,
when the coach got to throw all the ball at you,
when somebody moves around on the defensive side of the
ball on you, or you see a look you hadn't
seen before. I don't know how you get used to
that or get ready for that unless you play and
you're put in those situations.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Lomas, let me ask you about the coordinators. I have
the Lions not making the playoffs this year. I think
they'll still win about nine or ten games, but not
making the playoffs. I think the coordinators heard how big
are coordinators. And you know, the Lions didn't go out
and hire the best coordinators available.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
They hired with inside the building.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
And that's the part that you know, when you're in
this kind of window over the chance to win, and
you got all your players, you know what I mean,
and you paid everybody. I think they took the easy
way out by just hiring it inside.
Speaker 10 (25:36):
Yeah, I think they kind of, say Rob, I think
they kind of stayed within themselves, meaning Dan Campbell had history,
has history with John Morton before he brought them on,
Calvin Shephard, like you're saying, we just promoted him up
from with then they brought in other coaches because we
have seven new coaches on this staff. But like you said,
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your coordinators and those are the most important coaches pretty
much on that coaching staff outside of your head coach.
And that's what frustrated or is frustrating a lot of
fans around him, because, like you said, here's the team
ready to take that next step hopefully, but again, you
then really go out as far as the coaching staff
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and bring in the people that you feel necessary. I know,
Dan Campbell fields that John Morton and Calvin Shepard would
be all right in that role. But like he keeps saying,
that's the communication that's not on point with the coaches,
and I guess the only way you're gonna get that
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down is you're going to have to go through games,
and that's what they're doing right now, going through these
growing pains.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
Lomus Brown, I guess former All Pro offensive tackle with
the Detroit Lions. Let me ask you this, all right,
you lose that one, maybe you were right, didn't have
enough practice, tire, playing time together, and now they go
to play a team that may feels they got embarrassed
that they were playing well in the first half in
the Bears and then they had a bad second half.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
And also you got Ben Johnson.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
Who would you say it's more favorable that he got
to know or is it favorable that they know him
and what he likes to do.
Speaker 10 (27:15):
Yeah, that's true too. But I'm from the standpoint that
what you guys said, Ben knows us. I mean Ben
knows us, and we know how creative Ben Johnson can be.
And look, I think it's a little easier on offense
to kind of disguise it, meaning you could run because
basically we're gonna run some of the same plays that
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Ben knows. But I think what you're gonna have to
do is change up the formation. You know, run it
out of different formation, maybe you run it with different personnel,
Maybe you changed up some of the languages that you
use out on the field to kind of throw Ben
Johnson off. But this guy's his offense. It's basically his offense,
so he's gonna know every nuance about this offense. My
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thing is, we're gonna have to come out and hit
them guys in the mouth. I mean, if the Lions
don't come out and hit them in the mouth early
and let them boys sit around and gain confidence, I'm
telling you, it's gonna be a tight game, and it's
gonna go either way. You never know how it's gonna
go in the game.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Like that, and the schedule, Loments is tough.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
I mean, that's why this game is so important because
you look down the line. You don't win this game,
you might be one and five or one h or
two and four, you know, with six games in the schedule.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
So this is like a really important game.
Speaker 10 (28:35):
I think you're right, Rob, it really is, because again,
we face Baltimore, we'll face a Baltimore raven scene on
Monday night. Like you said, we got KC. It's a brutal,
brutal schedule coming up, and most of the games are
gonna be on the road too, so that's gonna even
make it more challenging. So you're right, and you know
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what they need to get a good taste in their mouth.
They need a victory. They need to put the ball
in the end zone so you can feel good about
yourself and feel good about this offense. Right now, things
are just stagnant right now.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
Hey Lomus, obviously you cover the Lions by you know,
but you watch the NFL. You love the NFL. Let's
talk about some other teams. The Chargers. How good are
they year two? Jim Harbaugh. Obviously Justin Herbert incredibly talented,
but doesn't have that postseason success. He would want what
do you make of them coming out beating the Chiefs
who had been two and seven against Herbert? But now
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three and seven? What do you make of them? And
how far can they go?
Speaker 10 (29:36):
So cav Man, I'm good with the Chargers right during
the regular season, like you just said, it's the postseason.
Come on, man, how Justin Herbert was? He threw but
what three interceptions doing the regular season then through four
in the playoff games? Man, you can't have that. You
just can't have that. So to me, yeah, they can
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have as good as regularly seas as they want to have,
But to me, it's about the postseason. What are they
gonna be able to do to advance in the postseason.
And right now I'm skeptical, skeptical justin Herbert. I just
really am. Until he shows me in some of these big,
big games he could get it done. I'm just a
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little skeptical of him.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
How about in the NFC, just obviously you got the
Eagles and and you saw Green Bay.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Who else Commanders? Yeah, Commanders?
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Who else do you like in the in the NFC?
Speaker 10 (30:35):
So again, like you said, the Commanders, the Eagles is
going to be a good team. I think people kind
of sleeping on Minnesota a little bit from the standpoint
because they got the young fella at quarterback. But Minnesota,
if you look at some of the talent and some
of the coaches that they have on their team, I
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think they're gonna be a threat threat later on down
in this year. And I'm trying to think of who
else Tampa Bay. Tampa could be a team that because
they've given us a lot of problems, Tampa could be
a team that can get hot and get on a
roll too. So those are a couple of teams I'm
looking at. But right in our division, man, we need
to take care of our divisional games. Man. Before we
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started looking at anybody else in the Nfcson, And how.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Important of a year is this for Jared Golf? He
had the terrible playoff game. You know, you have four turnovers, loanans,
you ain't winning a playoff game. But how important is
this new coordinator and people keep talking about it when
he doesn't have McVeigh McVeigh or JN Johnson. The numbers
are not good for.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Jared Goff.
Speaker 10 (31:42):
Yeah, no, no, no, you're right about that. So Rob,
Jared has been telling us all season that us the
media was making a big deal out of Ben Johnson
not being there. You know, he felt that he had
a good rapport with John Morton that things could seamlessly
kind of keep rolling the way it's been rolling. So
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he doesn't feel through. So if he's telling me that,
then hey, Rob, I don't have no choice but to
believe Jared Golf that he's gonna get this thing turned
around and he's going to have a big year. But
it's gonna be important because again, man, you look at
our salary cap, you look at who pay, yes, you
have to pay. Yeah, man, it's a big year.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
I brought that up earlier.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
Lomas I said, that's the downside of them drafting so well,
they got so many talented young dudes that they're up,
they're coming up.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
They already take care, take care too many people.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Man.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
Now they got another three four big names that they
got to pay the next year. So all right, well,
Lomas man, we appreciates who. I know it's early, but
since we got you here, who did you already have
a preseason Super Bowl picking on anybody?
Speaker 1 (32:48):
You ain't gonna put him on a scump blast like that.
He's plots for the Lions. I got the Lions winning it,
so he might be with me. I mean, what, what's
Lomas supposed to say that? Not pick the Lions and
then go do radio on Sunday. He's gonna pick who's
the AFC team? The Lions and who?
Speaker 10 (33:02):
Well, I thought the Bills. I thought the Bills wouldn't
be able to get over that. Holly crazy are you are?
Speaker 4 (33:10):
And Lomas, you should see us on YouTube now we
almost to live. We've been going at it all the time.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Lomers. Appreciate you, my man.
Speaker 10 (33:17):
Appreciate you man, absolutely God.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
I almost had to treat you like Aaron Glenn Man.
I almost had to cut you right there right thank
you appreciated, all right for the last call eight seven
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Yes, right, I don't know I'm talking about I never
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Dang well, I'll give you one of lies. Man you're
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Man, oh wait, did you see the one he made
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How about the other one?
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Someone else called me the father of the year for
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Yeah, but any joke about kids stuff like, I can
do it with you because but then some people get
all tight.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
I can tell you don't have kids. We'll just be
joking right all right, here we go.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
So, as you mentioned, big news coming out of New
York the Jets in the wake of their loss on
Sunday to the Pittsburgh Steelers. As you recalled that game
where they were up by two scores. Actually Aaron Rodgers
marches them down, scores a touchdown. On the ensuing kickoff,
Xavier Gibson fumbles the ball. A couple of plays later,
Aaron Rodgers scores again. Suddenly a two score lead is
(03:01):
suddenly a deficit, and Pittsburgh goes on to win the game. Well,
Gibson was released relieved of his duties on Wednesday, and
when asked about it, Aaron Glenn put a message out
of the rest of his team that can.
Speaker 6 (03:15):
Listen, we released Xavier Gibson and we will be bringing
this mother. Guys were already brought one guy in like
Isaiah Williams, who I know, he was with us in Detroit.
I think twenty three of twenty four he was with us,
and then we're gonna look some guys that's in house.
And I want to be known that decisions that's made
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are not rash decisions and they're another based off of
one incident. So and I will keep it at fat.
Xavier's a really good player and he's going to play
in this league. But I felt there was time for
us to move on another direction.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
This is where Aaron Glenn lost me. And he's playing
a very dangerous game. Here's the issue have he's saying
it wasn't rash or no. No, he felt like they
lost in the game. And that's what you do with players.
We just had Trey Wing go on and he talked
about it. If that was a better player and that happened,
would he be released today?
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Of course not. And you gotta be careful because players
see through that you used him as a scapegoat to
make yourself big and bad. Go cut a go gut
cut a.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Former Pro Bowl or somebody who made a big mistake
in a big situation. Now you got my attention. Oh my,
that guy was a Pro Bowl. That guy was a
really good player. Wow, cutting the loose hanging fruit, the
low hanging fruit and acting big and bad like you've
done something. You didn't do anything. This guy came in.
(04:45):
I read he had ten fumbles like this. That was
his tenth fumble. So guess what he does Sometimes he
fumbles the ball. I knew, So I just think you
better be careful. You got to back this up because
if somebody else, you've now set itself up.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
And then to get up.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
There and say it's not a raths decision, Yes it was,
because had you won the game.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
You think he would have been cut. No, you lost.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Let me put it on this kid, so it's not
on me. And then you got the nerve to say
he's a really good player and he's gonna play in
this league.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
I would have said, well, why did you let him go?
Why did you release him? Aaron Glenn? You is this on?
It makes no sense.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Aaron Glenn said, he's a really good player and he's
gonna play in this league. And it wasn't a rass decision.
He didn't cut the guy after week four, right, he fumbled.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
You felt like they lost.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
You blew my opening game as a coach, And now
I'm gonna.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Make you pay cause you did that to me. You
better be careful. Players.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Know what you're doing, which is making people people who
you think are lower level, who don't have a you know,
you know you can just discard whenever you want, because
because if that was one of their better players, ain't
no way that they're cutting them a week one because
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they fumble. You can't be that. You can't play that game.
That comes back to bite you and people lose respect
for you if you start doing that and just picking
the low hanging fruit.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Listen, talent buys you a longer leash.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Right if you're Jalen Carter and I spit on somebody,
I spit on DK, you know, suspended the one game
he missed, or they were spending them another game they
weren't going to release him. We've seen guys do some
wild stuff, whether it be getting issues off the field,
on the field misplays. You know you don't let me
tell you who ain't getting kicked off the team? Who
made a fumbler mistake? Dearre Henry, perfect example, big time fumble.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Fourth quarter.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
The Bills are coming back one of the best running backs,
maybe the best outside of sain Kwan. However, you want
to do it fumbles, You know what you do, You
smack him on the helmet. He say, hey, we'll be
all right. You know we're gonna bounce back next game.
Don't worry about the big fellow. Don't even worry about it,
because that's Derrick Henry, and Derrick Henry ain't going nowhere.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Now.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Maybe you want to be careful smacking Lamar Jackson on
the head because he might push you and shove you
up a little bit and rough you up a little bit.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
That story for another day.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
But so that's that's an easier thing to do for
a guy who's a kick returner and who fumbles. But
the one thing I did here is when he said
we don't do these things based off never one incident.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Is what he said, never one incident. And so then
you and you brought up the fumbling.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
The only thing I can think is if this guy
between fumbling maybe was showing up late and again skill
set aside, meaning if he was great, we already know
they'd be making up excuses, they'd be finding ways. So
he must have done whether it continues to fumble and
practice stuff we never see right in practice, he.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Shouldn't have been out to you.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
And so when you're when you're that guy and you're
barely hanging on by a thread, you don't get the
luxury luxury of making a bunch of mistakes, let alone
a crucial and critical mistake. You just don't have that luxury.
Dere Henry is afforded that you're not. But I understand
the ideology of false bravado. You know, coming out pumping
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you chinch is what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna if
you make mistakes, i'na let you go. So you want
to be careful of false bravado. But again, talent allows
you a lease. It gives you grace that when you're
a middling fledgling player you don't get. And another example
of this with Trey Wingo brought up earlier, but you know,
I watched the America's Team documentary Jimmy Johnson.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Trey brought him up.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
But watching that doc you see he was known for that,
like he was just known for There was a running
back who was filling in while the holdout, while it
was in his holdout, he was like, he fumbled up
a crucial play, cut him get out. And I think
Jimmy was a little more about that life than Aaron
w Obviously this is his first game.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
But Jimmy, he ain't gonna cut in it.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
But Jimmy was kind of a psychotic approach to how
this has to work.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
I get that you need to do your job, and
I'm not saying that people can't get cut. I just
think you gotta be careful because if next week they
lose a game because of another fumble or an interception,
or Justin Fields throws three interceptions, what would be of
course not of course.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
I had a bad game.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
You gotta be careful because I think it's not a
real message. Everybody knows why that why he was cut.
Xavier was cut because he just felt like he wasn't uh,
he's not a brand name player. I could just get
rid of him. He's it's easy, right. It doesn't make
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your message resonate with people when you do it to
the low hanging fruit. That's really my thing. Like you
didn't gain anything in the locker room. Nobody goes holy,
they just got rid of he was a pro bowler
two years ago.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Oh my, what, oh wow?
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Oh oh now you got my attention. Nobody better than I.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
You know what they say, Coach made him escape goal.
That's messed up. I did. That's messed up. I don't.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
I'm not reading too far into it, because again he
was a kick returner. He fumbled in a crucial moment.
He mentioned, uh again, never one incident. So I'm looking
at it as he probably was on his last leg
and you had to nerve a fumble in a critical moment.
Get on up, out of here, We'll go get somebody else.
And he mentioned getting somebody for Detroit that they have
familiarity with and Ky Nooney if that got out, he's.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Out of here too. He's out of here too.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
It's gonna be like every week. We about to have kickers.
What's that movie Mark Wahlberg was in Invincible? We about
to have some tryouts?
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Who out here?
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Who out here is good in New York? Anybody ex?
Football player, high school players. You can't catch Jimmy Johnson.
I'm gonna use another example of what was gangster.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
There's difference between Jimmy Johnson and Aaron Right, but gangster
would be I don't even know how you can put
those no.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Because I'm using an example of what gangster is.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
Gangst is when Troy Aikman is your guy, he's your
Pro Bowl quarterback, and uh, what was the backup? They
forgot his name. I have to get it real quick.
But the backup comes in, goes on the run. They
win like six in a row, six in a row.
It gets into the to the NFC. It time to
getting too the postseason, and Jimmy Johnson looked at Troy
and was like, nah, were still rolling with the backup
because that didn't happen to a Pro Bowl guy like
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a Troy Aikman. You're your quarterback. That is gangster right there.
To be like, no, we're gonna roll with this dude,
because you know, I believe he's hot. I believe he's
the right choice. And they end up they won a
playoff game or two, and then they end up losing
it without Troy playing. But I'm like, now, that's a
gangster coach move right there. You know, if Patrick Mahomes,
Justin Herbert or one of these guys is out for
a little while and you say, nah, go and have
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a seat, even though he's backing healthy. Now we're gonna
keep rolling with this backup. That's not that's some gangster
coaching right there.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Yeah. I'm just I think it's dangerous, that's all because
I don't. I don't think you won over anybody. You
didn't win over the room to say, if you make
a mistake, can you gotta be And also what you've done,
you're gonna make play play a little different and like,
I can't make a mistake. Like that's not how you
want to play. You want to be natural. You don't
(12:08):
want to be thinking about that. That is that what
you want to do. Because everybody's not a star. Most
players can be interchanged, right, so, and everybody's not a star.
So now do I want to play tight? Oh my god,
I can't make a mistake. What's going on? I need
to do this. I'd rather be conservative rather than go
on full speed like all these other things. So you
got to be careful what you're asking for. I just
(12:29):
think your first game, your loss, is not the end
of the world. You won't even favorites in that game.
I know it was at home. I know you felt
like you should have won, but but it ain't the
end of the world. You didn't get embarrassed and the
guy missed, uh, you know, fumble three times or something
like that.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
But that's why I know it's personal for that guy,
meaning this is what he hasn't been doing or hasn't.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
That's why I think it's this guy, because I don't
think get anything.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
When they played better, what that they won the game
and he fumbled, he would not be cut.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
There's I think that this shows me.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Would you disagree with that? Had they won the game,
do you think he would have been cut?
Speaker 4 (13:10):
I think he would have been cut because it's an
expendable position, a returner.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
It's a position you wouldn't cut a player.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
It's not it's not a starting cornerback, it's not a
starting linebacker.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
That's an extendable change just to make a change.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
I mean, okay, people fumble all the time. That's whatever stuck.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
That's why I'm saying this must be an habitual line stepper.
He must be showing up late to practice, or he
must be dropping all the kickoffs in practice.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
And he shouldn't have been He shouldn't have been out.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
And they gave him a shot there like man, you
out of here, get out, you crazy, get out of here.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
They know that all they're doing is using him as
a scapegoat.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
But everybody who's that type of caliber player, they already
know they're on the line. They don't those guys know
if you're on special teams seventy five eighty five percent
of them on special teams for a reason. You're barely
fitting anywhere else. This is your only chance to stay
on the team. You better be special at least and
if if you've don't do anything, don't stand out in
a negative way. Dropping a fumble in a fourth quarter
(14:05):
and you're befledgedly player that this fifty.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Three he had to ten fumbles. He's been around, he's
fumbled ten times. That's the point.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
No, But why.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Why why was he on the team because we need
somebody to go out there.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
For special teams.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Come on, you should have got the guy from the
sho't be, sir, fumble iis no that that's that can't
be a reputation. The man who fumbled Aaron Glenn. That's
Aaron Glenn who is trying to make this kid escape.
Goat for for him losing his first game?
Speaker 2 (14:33):
All right?
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Did Aaron Glenn make a mistake by cutting Exavier Gibson
following the untimely fumble during the Jets loss to Pittsburgh
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Speaker 2 (16:45):
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Speaker 4 (16:47):
Eight seven, seven and ninety nine on Fox, Aaron Glenn
Win ahead and let go the kick returner who fumbled
that costly one in that game. You believe it as
a scapegoat and that it wasn't necessary. I'll look it
at hey. When you're that guy, Flegedley player, you make
that critical mistake, it can happen. Eight seven, seven ninety
nine on Fox, Who.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
We Got Andrew? In Bakersfield, California. You're in the eyd
couple of Fox Sports Radio?
Speaker 2 (17:11):
What's up? Andrew?
Speaker 9 (17:13):
What's up? Guys? I agree with you, Rob. I think
it's the tale of two a a Rons. You got
Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Glenn lost me when he cuts Aaron Rodgers.
But anytime I see fungles, it's fun mentals and so
Aaron Glenn, I think he should have fired himself.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
Oh all right, came out with the smoke early, fired
myself at the one game. Let me tell you what
I'm not gonna do. I get his point of just
the idea that he lost he lost eight seven, seven
ninety nine On Fox, Who we Got Andrew?
Speaker 10 (17:44):
No?
Speaker 1 (17:44):
No, No, Who is that Andre? In Massachusetts? You're in
the eye couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Dre?
Speaker 10 (17:50):
How you doing?
Speaker 11 (17:51):
Thanks for taking the call listen. I got to push
back on Aaron Glenn cutting, cutting his player. You know,
it's getting the dog. He's he's going.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
I'll be honest with you, Dre. Your dog is turned
up when you turn and you call it odd couple.
Speaker 11 (18:08):
Right right, But you know he's like Aaron Glenn right now,
you know, and he's gone. You know it's a little
bit too much, you know, and he's got he's got
to calm down. But the point is the Jets played
a good game to be in that contest.
Speaker 10 (18:18):
Yes, they could have would have showed it.
Speaker 11 (18:19):
Fits and butts were candy nuts. I get that, But
we don't need this type of shock treatment after the
first game. In order to put yourself, you know, to
establish yourself base your leadership on putting people in position
to be success successful and inspiring them and your strategy.
You don't have to take this measure fits early in
the season. Now, if it's week eight or nine, maybe
(18:41):
you know, but I just think you're already the Jets
aren't making the playoffs and they're not making the super Bowl.
They played a heck of a game against the Steelers.
There's a lot to take from that that's positive. You
don't have to cut this guy. You can bench him,
you can make there's other ways to do this without
all of the shock and awe that that kind of
at the end of the day might under him and
the respect players might have a right.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Hard with a with a kick return like that. No,
it's not the idea.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
It's just that the idea because they he wouldn't have
cut him, Dre if they would have won the game.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
I know that for a fact. I just would have
made it. So I'm saying he might be acting up.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Scott in North Carolina, you're on the odd couple of
Fox Sports.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Why was he on your roster?
Speaker 9 (19:22):
Then?
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Scott? What's up buddy?
Speaker 10 (19:24):
What's up?
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Man?
Speaker 10 (19:26):
I mean, first of all, players get cut every day
every day.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Beats like pay the full.
Speaker 10 (19:31):
Every day every day. And this guy seemed to have
a history of fumbling, So let's knit that in the
right in there early in this season, especially when why.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Was he on the team? How do you make the team? Scott?
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Everybody, you're a better evaluator than if you put a
fumble lightest.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Guy on your roster.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
What did you expect he had nine fumbles coming into
the opener?
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Do you want me to give him.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
No, I'm saying to you, Scott, why was he on
the team. Why was he on the team?
Speaker 10 (19:59):
Every everybody gets second no, not nine fumbles.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Is the second chance? Come on, Scott, Come on, Scott, You're.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Better than this. This was bravado. This was Aaron Glenn
trying to flex his muscles. Come on, man, call it
what it is. Call it what it is.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
You really.
Speaker 10 (20:19):
I think there's Scott Scott.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Scott, name me, name me the other guy who got
cut this past week after game one because they made
a mistake in the NFL game.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
You can't give me another We don't.
Speaker 10 (20:30):
Know nobody we made the Eagles. We made trades right
after the.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Who they cut? Who they cut?
Speaker 10 (20:40):
You got traded a couple of people.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
It's not Come on, Scott.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
Transactions happen after every game, Rob, stop it who we got?
Speaker 10 (20:49):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (20:49):
What is that trading? Trading in Missouri. You're on the
couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Hey, y'all, hear me, we got your trading.
Speaker 10 (20:58):
Hey, I'm with cal on this one. Man. I don't know.
I mean, I understand where you're coming from, but as
soon as I heard the news, I didn't really bat
an eye at it. It's just the NFL.
Speaker 11 (21:07):
I feel like it happens all the time, but people
get cut every day.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
I just think it's I think I think you better.
You better be careful. You better be careful not to
have fake bravado because players will see through that. When
you cut somebody, you better make sure that you're cutting them,
not to make yourself look better or to get yourself
out of an excuse of losing.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
This is where that's where I disagree.
Speaker 10 (21:31):
This is where I don't agree.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
We watched you know what I'm saying. You know what
I'm saying. We watch Hard Knocks every year. I don't care.
But people get cut all the time. It's not not
not people.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Not your first game where you're blaming the kids because
you lost.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Come on, it's terrible.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
That happens, especially the kick returner Lois Brown. Allegedly it's
gonna be joining us next.
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with the Detroit Lions.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Lomas Brown seventy five on X Lomans.
Speaker 10 (22:36):
What's up man, Hey, hey fellows. I apologize. You know,
I'm getting a little old and stuff and you cut
your phone, you put it on silent, and you forgot
to put it back on. So I apologize for earlier.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
You know, fell asleep and took a nice little midday nap.
That's all this. It's all good, Lomas. You know that
big time Lomas. Let's go here. Game one. How surprised
were you? How you know?
Speaker 1 (23:02):
They got tossed around like a rag doll. The offense
was very vanilla bean cheese. That's good, but.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
It was ugly. It was an ugly opener for the Lions.
Speaker 10 (23:14):
It was ugly. Rob I had the witness that I
had to call in on radio and it was bad man.
And you know, Rob Calvin, I chalk it up to
these guys not playing in the in the preseason. I mean,
I know I couldn't have did that. I played eighteen
years in this league. And if you were to tell
(23:34):
me that I couldn't practice or you know, my first
real action would be the first game of a regular season.
I mean it would be almost impossible to do. So
those guys were rusty, they weren't ready. Green Bay them
boys was ready, man, they were rolling man, and they
put it on us on Sunday.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
So let me ask you that because Rob and I,
you know, we sit here, we have a former player
talk about this, this big issue of you got the
rams out here, they don't really ever play anybody in preseason.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
That's kind of becoming a new trend.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Is this, How do we then assess the first couple
of weeks if teams are kind of getting fluid and
now we're practicing, I really haven't played with this player
and we're getting out there, how do you go about
week one and maybe even week two.
Speaker 10 (24:17):
I mean, Cale man, you got to play these guys.
I mean, I don't know any other way of getting
your body ready to not only receive punishment, but the
dish punishment out. I don't know how you get your
timing down with strippted scrimmages. I just don't understand how
you get used to an atmosphere where seventy eight thousand
(24:40):
people in there, when they yelling, when the lights are bright,
when the coach got to throw all the ball at you,
when somebody moves around on the defensive side of the
ball on you, or you see a look you hadn't
seen before. I don't know how you get used to
that or get ready for that unless you play and
you're put in those situations.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Lomas, let me ask you about the coordinators. I have
the Lions not making the playoffs this year. I think
they'll still win about nine or ten games, but not
making the playoffs. I think the coordinators heard how big
are coordinators. And you know, the Lions didn't go out
and hire the best coordinators available.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
They hired with inside the building.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
And that's the part that you know, when you're in
this kind of window over the chance to win, and
you got all your players, you know what I mean,
and you paid everybody. I think they took the easy
way out by just hiring it inside.
Speaker 10 (25:36):
Yeah, I think they kind of, say Rob, I think
they kind of stayed within themselves, meaning Dan Campbell had history,
has history with John Morton before he brought them on,
Calvin Shephard, like you're saying, we just promoted him up
from with then they brought in other coaches because we
have seven new coaches on this staff. But like you said,
(25:58):
your coordinators and those are the most important coaches pretty
much on that coaching staff outside of your head coach.
And that's what frustrated or is frustrating a lot of
fans around him, because, like you said, here's the team
ready to take that next step hopefully, but again, you
then really go out as far as the coaching staff
(26:21):
and bring in the people that you feel necessary. I know,
Dan Campbell fields that John Morton and Calvin Shepard would
be all right in that role. But like he keeps saying,
that's the communication that's not on point with the coaches,
and I guess the only way you're gonna get that
(26:41):
down is you're going to have to go through games,
and that's what they're doing right now, going through these
growing pains.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
Lomus Brown, I guess former All Pro offensive tackle with
the Detroit Lions. Let me ask you this, all right,
you lose that one, maybe you were right, didn't have
enough practice, tire, playing time together, and now they go
to play a team that may feels they got embarrassed
that they were playing well in the first half in
the Bears and then they had a bad second half.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
And also you got Ben Johnson.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
Who would you say it's more favorable that he got
to know or is it favorable that they know him
and what he likes to do.
Speaker 10 (27:15):
Yeah, that's true too. But I'm from the standpoint that
what you guys said, Ben knows us. I mean Ben
knows us, and we know how creative Ben Johnson can be.
And look, I think it's a little easier on offense
to kind of disguise it, meaning you could run because
basically we're gonna run some of the same plays that
(27:36):
Ben knows. But I think what you're gonna have to
do is change up the formation. You know, run it
out of different formation, maybe you run it with different personnel,
Maybe you changed up some of the languages that you
use out on the field to kind of throw Ben
Johnson off. But this guy's his offense. It's basically his offense,
so he's gonna know every nuance about this offense. My
(28:00):
thing is, we're gonna have to come out and hit
them guys in the mouth. I mean, if the Lions
don't come out and hit them in the mouth early
and let them boys sit around and gain confidence, I'm
telling you, it's gonna be a tight game, and it's
gonna go either way. You never know how it's gonna
go in the game.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Like that, and the schedule, Loments is tough.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
I mean, that's why this game is so important because
you look down the line. You don't win this game,
you might be one and five or one h or
two and four, you know, with six games in the schedule.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
So this is like a really important game.
Speaker 10 (28:35):
I think you're right, Rob, it really is, because again,
we face Baltimore, we'll face a Baltimore raven scene on
Monday night. Like you said, we got KC. It's a brutal,
brutal schedule coming up, and most of the games are
gonna be on the road too, so that's gonna even
make it more challenging. So you're right, and you know
(28:57):
what they need to get a good taste in their mouth.
They need a victory. They need to put the ball
in the end zone so you can feel good about
yourself and feel good about this offense. Right now, things
are just stagnant right now.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
Hey Lomus, obviously you cover the Lions by you know,
but you watch the NFL. You love the NFL. Let's
talk about some other teams. The Chargers. How good are
they year two? Jim Harbaugh. Obviously Justin Herbert incredibly talented,
but doesn't have that postseason success. He would want what
do you make of them coming out beating the Chiefs
who had been two and seven against Herbert? But now
(29:32):
three and seven? What do you make of them? And
how far can they go?
Speaker 10 (29:36):
So cav Man, I'm good with the Chargers right during
the regular season, like you just said, it's the postseason.
Come on, man, how Justin Herbert was? He threw but
what three interceptions doing the regular season then through four
in the playoff games? Man, you can't have that. You
just can't have that. So to me, yeah, they can
(29:58):
have as good as regularly seas as they want to have,
But to me, it's about the postseason. What are they
gonna be able to do to advance in the postseason.
And right now I'm skeptical, skeptical justin Herbert. I just
really am. Until he shows me in some of these big,
big games he could get it done. I'm just a
(30:19):
little skeptical of him.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
How about in the NFC, just obviously you got the
Eagles and and you saw Green Bay.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Who else Commanders? Yeah, Commanders?
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Who else do you like in the in the NFC?
Speaker 10 (30:35):
So again, like you said, the Commanders, the Eagles is
going to be a good team. I think people kind
of sleeping on Minnesota a little bit from the standpoint
because they got the young fella at quarterback. But Minnesota,
if you look at some of the talent and some
of the coaches that they have on their team, I
(30:55):
think they're gonna be a threat threat later on down
in this year. And I'm trying to think of who
else Tampa Bay. Tampa could be a team that because
they've given us a lot of problems, Tampa could be
a team that can get hot and get on a
roll too. So those are a couple of teams I'm
looking at. But right in our division, man, we need
to take care of our divisional games. Man. Before we
(31:18):
started looking at anybody else in the Nfcson, And how.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Important of a year is this for Jared Golf? He
had the terrible playoff game. You know, you have four turnovers, loanans,
you ain't winning a playoff game. But how important is
this new coordinator and people keep talking about it when
he doesn't have McVeigh McVeigh or JN Johnson. The numbers
are not good for.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Jared Goff.
Speaker 10 (31:42):
Yeah, no, no, no, you're right about that. So Rob,
Jared has been telling us all season that us the
media was making a big deal out of Ben Johnson
not being there. You know, he felt that he had
a good rapport with John Morton that things could seamlessly
kind of keep rolling the way it's been rolling. So
(32:04):
he doesn't feel through. So if he's telling me that,
then hey, Rob, I don't have no choice but to
believe Jared Golf that he's gonna get this thing turned
around and he's going to have a big year. But
it's gonna be important because again, man, you look at
our salary cap, you look at who pay, yes, you
have to pay. Yeah, man, it's a big year.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
I brought that up earlier.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
Lomas I said, that's the downside of them drafting so well,
they got so many talented young dudes that they're up,
they're coming up.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
They already take care, take care too many people.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Man.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
Now they got another three four big names that they
got to pay the next year. So all right, well,
Lomas man, we appreciates who. I know it's early, but
since we got you here, who did you already have
a preseason Super Bowl picking on anybody?
Speaker 1 (32:48):
You ain't gonna put him on a scump blast like that.
He's plots for the Lions. I got the Lions winning it,
so he might be with me. I mean, what, what's
Lomas supposed to say that? Not pick the Lions and
then go do radio on Sunday. He's gonna pick who's
the AFC team? The Lions and who?
Speaker 10 (33:02):
Well, I thought the Bills. I thought the Bills wouldn't
be able to get over that. Holly crazy are you are?
Speaker 4 (33:10):
And Lomas, you should see us on YouTube now we
almost to live. We've been going at it all the time.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Lomers. Appreciate you, my man.
Speaker 10 (33:17):
Appreciate you man, absolutely God.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
I almost had to treat you like Aaron Glenn Man.
I almost had to cut you right there right thank
you appreciated, all right for the last call eight seven
seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven ninety nine
on Fox. If you're on YouTube, you can be watching
it and you can call. We got the number right
there at the bottom on YouTube. That's pretty How did
that pop up? If you just do that, hey budding
and it popped out? Kevin Ronald plus for lying that
(33:40):
man working over you don't know who you're talking about?
Speaker 10 (33:42):
Yes, right, I don't know I'm talking about I never
heard of him.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
Dang well, I'll give you one of lies. Man you're
working over there. Man, it's like seventeen of you right now, live,
just putting it up. Look, I got the little cute
little logo on the side there as well.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Man, oh wait, did you see the one he made
for ty Shirt's tower.
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