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February 26, 2025 35 mins

Rob and Kelvin debate whether the Los Angeles Rams would be better off with Matthew Stafford or Aaron Rodgers as their quarterback moving forward. Plus, NBA champion and FOX Sports Radio NBA analyst Antonio Daniels swings by to discuss all the latest happenings around The Association.

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Speaker 4 (01:31):
So we're still having robbed the conversations about Matthew Stafford
the Rams, where exactly is it go? Where it could
possibly go, and some more conversations starting to happen about
what do you do? Is there a way to make
Aaron Rodgers an actual option for the Rams if they
were to find a trading partner for Matthew Stafford. Roger,
you can break that down a little bit further.

Speaker 5 (01:55):
Yeah, So there's multiple reports out there, guys, one of
them coming from New York, interestingly enough, where Matthew Stafford's
been linked to the Giants, and the reporting is that
Aaron Rodgers, who was currently about to be a free agent,
has his eyes on one specific team as his next
landing spot.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
That team is the Los Angeles Rams.

Speaker 5 (02:16):
The only problem is Matthew Stafford, at least for now,
is still the quarterback of the Los Angeles Rams.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
And rob G Calvin I want to throw in there
the story on CBS Sports Right Robgs dot Com written
by Joel Coreer, the former agent, and he says that
Matthew Stafford is to blame for this whole scenario and
that he didn't take his full value at the time

(02:45):
when he had leverage with the Rams. He left money
on the table, and now he's trying to come back
on the back end older without the stats, you know
what I mean, trying to get makeup for the money
that he left on the table. That was an interesting take.
We're going to try to get him on the show, right,
Rober g Yeah, friend of the show, Joe cor was
gonna get him on. But I just want to throw
that into you, Calvin, that Yeah, that's why. That's why

(03:07):
he's here.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
That's why.

Speaker 5 (03:09):
With that in mind, Rob, you brought up that story.
If you're the Los Angeles Rams and the choice comes
down to Matthew Stafford fifty plus million dollars a year
in a new contract, or you trade him, you get
whatever picks you can get, and you sign Aaron Rodgers
in free agency. If we get last year's money around

(03:29):
thirty five to forty million dollars, which option are you choosing?
Rogers or Stafford?

Speaker 4 (03:37):
Calvin, Well, if it's on me, it's it's fairly easy
for me. I want the guy who's already been here.
I want the guy who won five and two with
in the playoffs. That's a great record. Five and two
in the playoffs, and had to nerve the you know,
make it six and one if they didn't lose to
the Eagles and they were right there with a chance
to win, they lose that game they did, so had

(03:59):
a chance to be six and one. And also, who
is thrown I think it's eleven touchdowns in the postseason
to I believe it's two interceptions.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
And I have a Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (04:08):
Ring with and is four years younger and is not
as injured right now when you talk about Aaron Rodgers
coming off of major Achilles injury, which you know is
a serious injury. So for me, Matthew Stafford is well
within his right to ask for more money when you
look at the fact that what he's done throughout his career,
what he's done specifically for the Rams, and he's only

(04:28):
gonna get twenty seven million dollars. That might be the
biggest discount in all the sports. That's crazy, that's asinine,
dang go right, he needs to make more. That should
be making double, which would be like fifty four million.
So yes, he absolutely deserves more money. Fifty million ain't
crazy when you look at today's market. It will put
a right center where he should be considering he's a
top eight to ten quarterback, depending on where you want

(04:48):
to place some easy answer for me younger, not a
catastrophic injury like an Achilles produces. For me, I want
a Super Bowl ring with Let tensions happen. We have
arguments that happens with the the family and within an organization.
Let's figure this thing out and make it run for
another two to three years.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
Okay, only problem is that Matthew Stafford is coming for
a payday with weak stats. Twenty touchdowns, eight picks is
just not that impressive. Do you remember the mid season
when they went through four or five games where they
couldn't score. I think they won a game rob g

(05:27):
where they had all field goals. They might like. It
was a stretch of about four or five games where
offensively it was as bad as it gets. And that's
the issue that I think they're looking at, saying do
we want to do this? If we could say fifteen
million or fifteen or twenty million, we could spread that

(05:49):
on some other situations and circumstances. Don't forget Aaron Rodgers
had better stats than Patrick Mahomes. So if you give
him some protection, you give him put him in an
organization that has won and is probably more buttoned up
than the Jets. Remember, a lot of things went wrong,
and nobody's saying that Aaron Rodgers had a great season

(06:11):
for the Jets. But they couldn't run the football, they
had a bad defense, went turned sour on them. There
were a lot of things that went wrong with the Jets,
and it wasn't just Aaron Rodgers. And you think fifteen
million or twenty million doesn't make a difference, it does
when you're trying to put together a football team. So

(06:31):
I can see where they could say this is not
long term. It's not long term with Matthew Stafford. What's
the difference Brady played to he's forty five. Maybe we
can squeeze in there and just get one with Aaron
Rodgers and we can have our two super Bowls and
keep it moving, and I think there would be more
than satisfied. And that's why I think it makes sense

(06:52):
and why they're telling him to go ahead and look around,
because they don't want to give up fifty four for
a guy who had twenty touchdowns and eight picks. And
had a stretch where they just didn't play well.

Speaker 4 (07:08):
It doesn't make any sense to me when you're talking
about the money. I get there like, oh man, you know,
and they're doing what they're supposed to do. Maybe if
we can penny pinch him down to forty five forty
I understand that it's the business end of it. Sometimes
it ain't always pretty. You've negotiated contracts. I've negotiated contracts.
He can get ugly. But again, to me, when you
start to look at the list of what guys are making,
I mean, he literally fits right in the middle of

(07:30):
where he should be. I mean, it doesn't make sense
that you have guys like Kirk Cousins, guys like Trevor Lawrence,
guys like Kyler Murray, guys like Jared Goff, guys like.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
Who are you know who haven't won a Super Bowl?

Speaker 4 (07:42):
Who is something that ain't barely even making a postseason,
and they're making more than him.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
Dak Prescott's making more than him.

Speaker 4 (07:48):
There's nothing about Dak Prescott that says he's better right
now than Matthew Stafford. In fact, if you put Matthew
Stafford in some of these circumstances, the teams that other
teams are on, you probably.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
Would have won a Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (07:59):
To me, I just now this goes back to maybe
the Luca conversation of is there something else? Do they
just not like the guy, They not like the family dynamic,
Maybe they don't like his wife in the podcast, Maybe
they don't They just you know, is there something else?
Because it can't just be football, because to me, that
just simply doesn't make sense when I'm looking at everyone
else and he's not He's thirty seven and twenty twenty five.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
He's not thirty second in nineteen eighty.

Speaker 4 (08:22):
Five where that was guys you know that we didn't
have the say modern medicine, guys are beating and battered,
guys are getting concussions all the time. It's a much, much,
much different different scenario. So to me, I don't get like,
That's what I'm saying, is there's something else that we
don't know about? Because the math is the math, and
the man just made twenty seven million dollars.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
I've know that, but that's his faults.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
I'm not mad at that.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
No, No, that's I got to actually agree with you. No, yeah,
that's not And that's why Joe Corey is spot on.
You gotta take the money when you're younger, and all
that leaving money on the table only comes back to
bite you because now you're asking for money older, coming
off of stats that aren't as good.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
Do you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 (09:03):
Yeah, And that's and that's why, that's that's.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
Why they're saying, oh no, like, no, we're not doing that.
You had us over a barrel three years ago. Right, well,
we would have no choice coming off of Super Bowl,
but we can't do that now.

Speaker 4 (09:20):
Dude, I'm looking at I'm looking at again this list
of guys who are ahead of them, and there's maybe
you know, two to three four dudes that you say, Okay,
Patrick Mahomes, Okay, I get that, Josh Allen who.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
Is directly above them. Okay, I get that.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
You know, but it is and then't always based on that.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
It's based on when you sign Your dealer had nothing
to do with that.

Speaker 4 (09:40):
But that's why I would feel like, if I'm him,
it's time for me to be up to real.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
I'm not asking they don't want to.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
I mean they tell you they don't want them when
they tell you to go find your deal with your
agent they're not paying you.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
I don't know what unless you come back with your
tail between your legs and say, oh right, I'll take
forty two and I'll stay.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
That's what. That's the only way once they tell you
to go.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
Look, you think that they got plans for you to
be the starting quarterback.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
I don't think they do.

Speaker 3 (10:07):
No and that.

Speaker 4 (10:08):
But that's why it's going to be interesting to see
who comes in. Remember, this isn't just go leave and
blah blah blah. This is trade partner. Somebody has to
be willing to take the money that you gotta pay
Matthew Stafford, right, and then they also have to be
willing to give up, whether it be another.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
Player, whether it be picks, whether it be both.

Speaker 4 (10:23):
So that's also going to make this difficult because there
might be teams to say, well, I like him, and
I shoot, I'd love to give you, know, get them,
but Dan, we got to give you a matching salary,
and we got to give you a pick or a
couple picks or something. So that's why we might be
having this conversation for another month or two.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
Robin.

Speaker 4 (10:40):
At the end of the day, guess who's starting quarterback?
Come this September. It might be Matthew Stafford.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
I don't think so. I don't think that he would
want to come back, and he might have to after that.
When once they once they tell you to go find
another gig or go somewhere else, I don't see how
it comes back.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
I'm dead serious.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
I would be stunned if matth Staffords the quarterback for
the Rams.

Speaker 4 (11:02):
I'm just looking around at some like trading partners, and
I'm like, I don't you.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
Know, I'm just talking about then tell you if there
have spectrum he go to the Fox eleven, go go
look around.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
Go to what call it?

Speaker 6 (11:15):
You're right, But then what what I bring up to
you before about about James Brown when Fox told him
to go, I ain't seen him, saying, seen him since
he's been He's been at CBS for twenty years.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
That's all I'm just saying.

Speaker 4 (11:27):
No, you're right when listen, you're right when you say
what you said. I'm just looking around at trade like
what or even possible? You know, do the do the
Jets do a signing trade? You know with the what
do they sign and Rogers, Hey, we'll sign him. Then
y'all gave us Matthew Stafford. I mean, I'm just looking around.
Is it uh, like I mentioned, is it something you
can do Kirk Cousins like, hey, we feel like we

(11:47):
can make him better than what he was. We can
get him back to his own self. I'm just you know,
I'm looking around at like possible tour Takavaloa, like is
that something? I mean, it's just what where are these
possible trades and.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
That could match?

Speaker 4 (12:00):
And obviously mas it the Browns for Miles Garrett, you know,
So I don't know. I just but but I think
they I think they're under selling what he has meant
to that team because they listen. Sean McVay is really
good to great coach. But I don't know if they
would have won all these games the last couple of
years if they did not have Matthew Stafford. I'm saying

(12:21):
if they had another Obviously you have josh Aden Lamar
that's different, but I'm saying the quarterbacks that would actually
be other out there that you would say be comparable.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
I don't think they win, but they but they watch
them every day and there's got to be there must
have been at some point during the season.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
And remember they had a chance to win that playoff
game in Philly.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
I mean they were there, they were there with first
down at the what would they twenty something yard line
on twenty maybe even closer than that twenty two, and
they couldn't get there. I mean, you know, you've seen
McVeigh soer on people like right.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
I mean, look, Jared Goff is a lion because of it.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
Yeah, And that's what I'm saying, is Stafford in that situation,
I'd have to go back.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
We could go back and look at those four plays
where they.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
Couldn't get anything going, But that could have been a
defining moment there, plus the money, plus the scoring droughts
that they had during the season. All right, eight seven,
seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven, seven, nine nine
six sixty three sixty nine. If you're the Rams, are
you taking Matthew Stafford or Aaron Rodgers. We'll continue this
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Speaker 4 (14:12):
Robin I chatting about Matthew Stafford and the Rams not
seeing I. He wants more money. They don't want to
pay him. They told him go see the market, see
what's out there. Aaron Rodgers kind of lenking around. Could
that be a fit? I say, find a way to
work it out with Matthew Stafford.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
Rob, you say what.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
I say? I'm going with the Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
They're having eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox. What
say you? Who we got?

Speaker 2 (14:38):
All right?

Speaker 1 (14:38):
Let's go with Kevin in Culver City. You're on the
couple of Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
What's up?

Speaker 3 (14:43):
Kevin? God is good all the time.

Speaker 8 (14:47):
Hey, this is more with me, More with me about
Sador Sanders, think about this and just marinate for a second.
This guy is an extremely accurate quarterback. I think he's
the best quarterback in the nation coming off to the draft.
What better fit than Sean McVay, the quarterback whisper hooka Nakua?

Speaker 2 (15:06):
How are they getting him.

Speaker 8 (15:08):
In la with, said Sanders, You signed Aaron Rodgers for
one year and you met Sanders taker with the Rains.
Look at what jayden Hurst has done with Nick serr Young.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
Yeah, but what what pick where should do?

Speaker 1 (15:18):
Where they're getting Chador in the Rams is what I'm
trying to say.

Speaker 8 (15:22):
You trace Stafford to the Raiders, you get the pick,
and he drafts the.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
Door and the Raiders are going to give up up
the Raiders gonna give up their their pick.

Speaker 8 (15:30):
Okay for Stafford, absolutely, I could see the Raiders doing
that for sure. And you roll with Sanders.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
I can't see that.

Speaker 4 (15:39):
Yeah, I want to be down with you, but I
don't think they're gonna you gotta I don't think.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
I mean, let's just say, thirty seven year old quarterback
with a team the Raiders that have no shot at
winning anything right now, seriously.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
Trying to say because they got designs.

Speaker 8 (15:56):
Stafford's a Hall of Fame quarterback. He's on a Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
No, that's that's debatable. That's debatable.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
That's debatable.

Speaker 4 (16:01):
But I have to think it's Pete Carroll unless they're saying,
we only got Pete Carroll for you know, a handful
of years.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
Get him a veteran.

Speaker 4 (16:07):
But either way, Matt, listen, y'all know that's my guy
in all but he ain't making a difference singularly for
the Raiders.

Speaker 3 (16:13):
Now, come on, now, like he alone, That's.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
What I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
Like that that that pick whoever the GM is, who
makes that Tom Brady would and he's a minority owner
and he agrees to that deal, You must be crazy.

Speaker 3 (16:25):
Yeah, that's that's that's not happening.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
Andre in Massachusetts. You're on the odd couple. Fox Sports Radio.
What's up, Drake, Hey, how you doing?

Speaker 9 (16:33):
Thanks for taking the call. Listen, give me stat packers,
give me mister game manager, system, quarterback culture center. Who's
going to come in execute what you want to do
is gonna be a good guy in the locker room
for the most part. When to get all this secondary stuff,
you know with the family, you know, all the media stuff, now.

Speaker 8 (16:49):
No, that's going to be on the side. I favor
that over Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 10 (16:52):
Listen, we know.

Speaker 9 (16:52):
Pounds for pound, who is the more talented individual. But
Aaron Rodgers, who had his career, he's been a contrarian
without a cart, and he's come and he's wanted to
do things his way.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
He's alienate who had better stats last year, Patrick Mahomes
or Aaron Rodgers. I'm just asking you, Drey, Okay, yes, no,
I'm not asking you. I'm just to answer that question
for me, right advanced Rodgers.

Speaker 9 (17:13):
But what happened when when when Robert Saler wanted to
dap him up after he did.

Speaker 11 (17:17):
Something, but he brought them up.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
Maybe maybe well to dre Maybe he had bad breath
and just didn't want them club up.

Speaker 9 (17:24):
That could be the case, but you look at that
Jets roster. I regardless, you know some people during the
Super Bowl saying we want Aaron Rodgers backs go and forth,
and there's another contingent that's probably saying Goosi and I
are good ridding.

Speaker 11 (17:35):
So I'm just not sure.

Speaker 9 (17:36):
And frankly, as you get older, you become more conservative.
He's going to be willing to bend whatever team he
goes to and allow his talent to flourish. Therefore, give me,
stat Paford, give me, give me a guy that's just
gonna come in do.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
His job and let bike what do you think?

Speaker 1 (17:50):
Let me let me ask you this, Drey real quick,
why do you all these things you're talking about. They've
seen him, they won a super Bowl with them, but
yet they don't want them. Not thirty seven years, fifty
million dollars.

Speaker 9 (18:02):
He's he's run out the strength. But they've seen it
with the Rams. And again for me, Sean McVey can
take somebody and coach them up. They know what they're gonna.

Speaker 11 (18:11):
Be with that.

Speaker 9 (18:12):
With me, you know, there's no mystery anymore. So let's
just part way and bring in the next guy to
run his system and they'll be a good team, but
not a great team. They'll be kind of in the mix.
But every team, there's a lot of teams that need quarterback.
And I just think, somebody, I E what you got
with Darnold this year? You can just come in execute
and give you the best chance with your system to win.

Speaker 8 (18:31):
Thanks taking a.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
Call, all right, appreciate you. Who else we got?

Speaker 2 (18:35):
That's it right there?

Speaker 3 (18:36):
All right there, you have it. Yeah, it'll be interesting
to see.

Speaker 4 (18:39):
Like I said, one of the key components that is,
obviously who's gonna be a participant, who's gonna be an
active trade partner, who's gonna want to say screw it,
we're gonna you know, we're gonna throw ourselves out there
and make this happen.

Speaker 3 (18:49):
And it's not quite as easy as it seems.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
No, Yeah, I'm with you. I just I just think
like there's something there. And we always know that there's
a financial part even in pro sports, right, there's a
limited to all teams at some point. Right the Yankees
offered up Solo seven hundred and sixty for fifteen years,

(19:11):
and the Mets offered him seven sixty five for fourteen years.
You know what I mean, Like there's a price. There's like,
oh yeah, let's just give him eight hundred million. No,
you can't. There is a at some point, there's a
price there. And in Stafford's case, I just think that
they're looking at it saying you left money on the

(19:32):
table and now you're trying to get on the back
end as a thirty seven year old, And I think
that's the issue that's me.

Speaker 4 (19:38):
No, I don't think I don't think you're wrong. I
do think he may have misstep with that in the beginning.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
You know what I mean. You're supposed to get it
when you can get it, and he didn't.

Speaker 4 (19:47):
But I do think again, I also think they know,
like we really lucked out having solid quarterback play and
he didn't set the word on fire, but he played
really well. We got us you know, a couple we
got into the postseason, had a shot at maybe making
ITFC Championship game, and we did that for like twenty
seven million or whatever it costs.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
Come on that.

Speaker 4 (20:04):
They know they got over with that. So that's that's
to me where maybe we can meet in the middle,
like we got over. We know that you want more,
you deserve it. Let's find a way to work it out.
But we'll see. We'll keep an eye on that story.

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On the way.

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Speaker 3 (20:43):
Well.

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Speaker 2 (20:58):
B us up buddy, Rob Kelvin.

Speaker 11 (21:01):
How you guys doing man good?

Speaker 10 (21:03):
Great?

Speaker 3 (21:04):
Doing good?

Speaker 4 (21:05):
We uh, but we got to do a bunch of
conversations over the course of the show. Today started with
the NBA and we want to just I don't know
if you had a chance to read The Athletic that
story that.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
Came out about Loca.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
Yeah, about Luca.

Speaker 4 (21:18):
They're calling him hookah right now and that he likes
the who smoked the hookah, He likes the drink and
he's not clearly they believe he et in five years, Antonio,
He's gonna have a catastrophic injury.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
They came out saying a whole bunch.

Speaker 4 (21:36):
I feel like, no matter what you say, it's not
going to make the trade look any better, and I'm
not buying it. The Lakers won this thing. Rob says
he's signed with the mass.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
What do you think, I'm just signing with the Masks.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
From the standpoint up, this wasn't a trade a basketball
trade to me, this was dumping somebody who you don't
believe was professional now for whatever, because basketball makes no sense.

Speaker 11 (21:57):
Come on, yeah, basketball doesn't make sense. We're realistically speaking,
the trade doesn't make a lot of sense. That's why
we're all left scratching our heads because we can't think
of a guy who was twenty five years old that
was considered a phenom and then with first team on
NBA five trade years and was traded without being as
to be traded like.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
I mean, come on, man, That's why I'm saying it's
not basketball.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
I agree with that, it's something.

Speaker 11 (22:21):
More to it. I do agree with that, but I
will say that as far as the question, I don't.
It's a different situation. I think Dallas is better. But
we all know this. We all know players in the
past that did far more than Luca did far more

(22:44):
than Luca did, that teams rode with for longer. We
know that.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
Rob.

Speaker 11 (22:48):
You know the way the NBA works. If you're impact
outweighs your baggage, they will rock with you and kill
those two switch.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
No, there's no doubt of it.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
And that's why the only thing I look at it
And this is where I gotta wonder. He's twenty five
with a thirty five year old body. You gotta admit,
why does he have a thirty five year old body?

Speaker 10 (23:12):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
He doesn't look like he's in shape.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
I think at twenty five is the best time of
your life. Shouldn't you be in the best shape of
your life.

Speaker 11 (23:20):
Does nicolea Joki look in shape?

Speaker 2 (23:23):
He's not twenty five.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
I'm just saying, no, but he's not. He's not twenty five.
Luca just doesn't look I'm just telling you look. I'm
just saying, if you just look at him, he doesn't
look like he's in shape.

Speaker 4 (23:38):
But Paul Pierce never looked like he was in the
best shape. He had an amazing career. Carmelo, I mean,
there's guys who just aren't real, you know, like everybody
doesn't look like Adona's doesn't look like Russell Westbrook or Janni.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
But you notice Antonio, you've been on teams you've been in.
There's something there that maybe we just haven't come all
the way to the surface yet, but there's something there
that scared them, that spooked them, that made them say, no,
we can't give this guy three hundred and fifty million dollars.

Speaker 8 (24:08):
And you know what, you know.

Speaker 11 (24:09):
What, realistically speaking, we talked about this on on My
Tero Sexim show yesterday. Maybe it's the fact that it's
three hundred and fifty million dollars, but.

Speaker 3 (24:16):
That's it right there.

Speaker 11 (24:18):
When you do the landscape of the league. Realisticly speaking,
how many guys that are eligible for the super Supermax?
Are you comfortable giving the Supermax too? Knowing that that's
going to eat up the majority of the salary cap?

Speaker 2 (24:30):
You got that.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
The Celtics, don't they have two of those guys? Aren't
they both Superman and that?

Speaker 11 (24:36):
Yep? And that team is also for sale outside of
Big to women Yama, outside of Big Are you going
to give Kay Conningham four hundred million dollars?

Speaker 2 (24:44):
I'm not see?

Speaker 11 (24:46):
This is it. This is what you run into. This
is the issue that you run into a supermaket. So
now it's basically like having a really really good quarterback
great quarterback. Let's give him all the money. Cool Now,
he's eating them the majority of the salary cap. And
he does have an offensive line and he doesn't have
receivers and tow the ball. Two, what does your team
look like?

Speaker 2 (25:07):
Yeah, I ask Patrick Mahomes in the Super Bowl. No,
I'm just.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
Saying he's still have a nightmare. He's still you know,
waking up at coach.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
Hey, I'm just saying, all right, Uh.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
I saw a stat about the New York Knickerbockers, and
I know they're winning at like thirty second left and
being Philadelphia, which isn't a big shock, but they the
thing though, stat I saw there oh to seven versus
top three CED teams.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
What does that say about them?

Speaker 1 (25:35):
Because it looks like they're doing well and they got
Kat and you know what I mean, Brunson and they
got a team and Tims and this and that and
winning games. Does that say anything to you at far?

Speaker 11 (25:46):
Maybe they're not ready to be put in the same
conversation as the Cleveland cavin Leers. Yeah, the Celtics. Yes, yes,
I think that's take to take. That's take the say.
I mean, I don't I don't have a problem with
it and when the year started, I wasn't comfortable saying that.
But this is why you played the game right. You
go out and you allow the game to play itself out.

(26:08):
And I think what we've seen this year from the
New York Big in certain areas, they've taken steps backwards.
They've taken tipts backwards, which is difficult to understand because
you have excellent point of attack defenders. You know, you
have Ojan Andobi, you have Josh Hart, you have mikel Bridget,
excellent point of attack defenders, but your defense is taking
a back seat now to the offense. Maybe the help

(26:30):
when you get Mitchell Robertson back, because now maybe he
gives you a different look. You can play Karl Anthony
Towns at the fourth bot similar to put Nthony Davis
at the fourth bot where he has a physicality advantage.

Speaker 4 (26:42):
Yeah, now there's something there, Yeah something.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
And we talked about this too, Antonio Robin. I just that.

Speaker 4 (26:50):
And you know Tims loves to wear guys down. They's
so tired during the NDCY Man Josh are still tired
from last year. I mean the way they play right there,
it is absolute. The it just grinds on them all
season long. All right, let me I want to ask
you about the dynamic. I'm gonna go back to the
game that we saw last night, the Lakers and the Mavericks.

(27:12):
Give me the dynamic between you play with guys who
were spectacular, you play with guys who have multiple stars
of the team. How do you envision Luca and Lebron
being able to have that? All right, it's your turn. No,
it's your turn. Okay, you got it tonight. No, you
got it tonight and making that work throughout the rest
of the season and maybe into the postseason.

Speaker 11 (27:32):
I think Lebron has to take a back seat. And
I don't mean that literally because if you look at
the game yesterday, Lebron was the Lakers leading score. What
I mean by taking back seat, Look, when you have
a big two, when you have a big three, somebody
have to sacrifice. It's tough to ask Luca to sacrifice,
because Lebron can do more than Luca cans. Lebron can

(27:53):
play off the ball better than Luca cants. Lebron's a
better cutter than Luca is. He's a better mover than
Luca is. You put the ball in Luca's hands and
allow him the opportunity to kind of run a facilitate things.
I think that works out better as opposed to constantly
putting the ball in Lebron James's heads. Like they do
a lot of the same things, they just do it

(28:14):
in different ways. You know, Lebron James being forty years old,
there's nothing wrong with taking him off the ball and
allow him to be more of a cutter, mover, runner
and finisher than actually someone who's initiating the break. In
my opinion, yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
He looked.

Speaker 4 (28:28):
They look good, and to your point, Lebron was able
to finish strong. He has six six nineteen in the
fourth because he was kind of chilled.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
Through the first two to three quarters.

Speaker 4 (28:36):
So you you know, you might be on to something
there all right over here done?

Speaker 11 (28:41):
I think that's easier said than done. I mean, it
didn't look good for two games, but if you look
at the previous three games, he didn't look good. This
is something I need to see play itself out in
the post eason.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
And one last thing, please, you got about a minute.
The most disappointing team this season?

Speaker 2 (28:56):
Who is that?

Speaker 11 (28:56):
What?

Speaker 1 (28:58):
The most disappointing team this seasons? You know, as we
get ready to wind down to the final twenty five.

Speaker 11 (29:06):
Phoenix.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
Unbelievable how bad they are?

Speaker 11 (29:09):
Right, I'm unbelievable they I say that, and I'm sitting
in the hotel room in Phoenix because we played the
Suns the next two days.

Speaker 3 (29:16):
Right.

Speaker 11 (29:17):
No, yes, when you when you look at that star
power and the firepower that they have to be not
even in the playing to win a half games out
of the plan, that that's.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
An issue and they've lost like eight out of nine.
Ers like that, they're bad.

Speaker 11 (29:31):
Yeah, Coaching Gallon is tar because you have two championship
coaches that have come in there and couldn't figure it out.
Remember Boga won a championship with the Lakers, he got
fired after one year. Bud won a championship in Milwaukee
and he's struggling here too.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (29:45):
Maybe it's the Rockster construction.

Speaker 4 (29:47):
Yeah, I mean we talk about they got three of
these same guys who need the ball in their hands
to score. Now their amazing lockdown the fenders, not like
they're amazing shot creators and it's not like they can
just say hey, I'm gonna just rebound and I get
you ten and eighteen tonight. So they got three guys
who shooters and need the ball, and I just kind
of felt I felt like I saw this from the jump.

Speaker 3 (30:04):
Now they're gonna be this the.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
Preview of the Lakers next year. I'm just saying, Oh,
here you go, Antonio.

Speaker 3 (30:11):
You know we had to end it that on Tonio.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
You know you can count on me right now.

Speaker 11 (30:16):
Definitely kidding.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
Hey, we appreciate you anything so much, man.

Speaker 4 (30:22):
Fellai, Antonio daniels Man, great stuff. All right, we got
last call on the way. A lot of you couldn't
get in. It's a chance now stop playing. Eight seven
seven ninety nine on Fox. Eight seven seven ninety nine
on Fox. Last Call, Our Couple, Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2 (30:48):
God, that's right, last call. How about in Lancaster?

Speaker 1 (31:01):
I guess that's California or Pennsyl Tuckie, you're on the
odd gup boy and you want a last call? Robert,
What Lancaster are you from?

Speaker 11 (31:11):
Oh?

Speaker 10 (31:12):
You know, I'm from I'm from like the west side
of Lancaster in California.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
Okay, but now I got you. Thank you. You're the
last call tonight. What you got for us?

Speaker 10 (31:22):
All right? Well, a couple of things. Every time that
I called in, it seems that I was like side
with Rob on a couple of you know, Number one,
Matthew Stafford. I'm in a big Laker fan, big Ram fan,
and Matthew Stafford. Of course, you know, he's asking for
fifty million, and I think that's a fair price for

(31:44):
everything that he's done. Uh huh, everything that he's done.
And getting Aaron Rodgers over to the Rams would be
a huge mistake. I mean, he couldn't even there's a
reason why he's not with the Green Bay Packers anymore.
And there's a reason why he got go from the
New York Jets. I mean, we don't want anybody else
thinking it up, you know.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
Okay, So you watch the games? Why don't they want
Stafford at fifty four million dollars? You watched the games?
Do you remember the struggle, the struggles during the season
when they couldn't score to they had the twentieth.

Speaker 10 (32:16):
Well yeah, and I and I and I heard, and
I heard exactly what you were saying I want the struggles.
But you know what, Hey, you know what, let's take
it just a step back and think about the struggles.
It wasn't it wasn't just about Stafford. It was about
you know, the people that were hurt and you know
Nikou was heard.

Speaker 8 (32:33):
Think about that.

Speaker 10 (32:34):
I mean, you know, you've got your you've got your receivers,
you your preferred receivers, and you're you know, you don't
have them there you're struggling.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
But I asked you this, Robert, I hear your point.
But this isn't fans saying we don't want Stafford. This
is the coaches and management who know his value, who
see them every day. They're the ones saying we'll take you,
but not at fifty four million dollars.

Speaker 10 (33:00):
We won't. Well, do you know what, like Rob says, hey,
do you want to go ahead and get somebody that
you both have not won a championship with? Do you know,
do you want to go ahead against somebody that you
haven't won? You know your five and you're five and
five and two in the playoffs. I mean those numbers
are pretty strong, guys. I mean rub.

Speaker 11 (33:24):
On the other and then on the other side, I
want I do want.

Speaker 10 (33:26):
To come in real quickly about the Lakers. Man. You
know what, I don't think it's all.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
We missed that last you.

Speaker 10 (33:34):
Know, being able to go ahead and manage the personalities
of I mean, you've got two of the two of
the greatest players playing on the same uh you know, teams,
and you've got to be able to manage, Hey, who
is going to handle the ball?

Speaker 1 (33:51):
Robert, no doubt. And that's something that JJ Reddick will
get and I know it will be Lucal. We appreciate
the call.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
Thanks for being the last call.

Speaker 4 (33:59):
Robert was getting. And he was like, let me take
full advantage of his last call. And another thing, you know,
I was thinking back in eighty eight. But the one
thing about reim that's why we do a couple. We
are a radio friendly fan caller.

Speaker 5 (34:15):
Rob Parker and your calls, what are.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
You talking about?

Speaker 3 (34:18):
Rob G?

Speaker 1 (34:19):
Why do you always ten seconds? Why are you always
trying to say? I'm like, if if somebody disagrees with me,
I let people talk.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
Because if they agree with you, it's four minutes, Like Robert,
what the.

Speaker 11 (34:29):
Right?

Speaker 3 (34:30):
Rob G. They don't even get tests and they go, Rob,
You're crazy. I think the life. Yeah, they don't even
get to get that if they.

Speaker 4 (34:38):
Are making you, I'm ask you's gonna win it all?

Speaker 3 (34:42):
No, no, no, I'm asking you. I'm asking yes or no,
yes or no, win the super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (34:47):
And they're like, dude, I was just trying to tell
you that I think any Rate was a great coach,
trying to say.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
Just so, I don't know. I'm just me. I'm sorry,
I'm just me. That's what I do.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
And then I love when we asked you a straight
yes or no question. Stutter and Stanley.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
Stutter and Stanley, I just do what I gotta do.
I'll answer it. I'll answer your damn question. All right,
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