June 7, 2024 • 38 mins
Chris and Rob tell us why Caitlin Clark is going to be sorely disappointed if she has a problem with sports media networks focusing on WNBA drama rather than the play on the court and explain why it was so refreshing to see Jayson Tatum still be impactful in Game 1 despite having an off-shooting night. Plus, FOX Sports Radio NBA insider Mark Medina swings by to discuss the latest on the Los Angeles Lakers’ pursuit of Dan Hurley, why the Lakers may need to overpay to get Hurley to leave UConn, whether a hire of Hurley would feel like a ‘rejection’ of LeBron James and much more!
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That's OK, all things n b A, but for now
we'll talk w n b A. I'm actually watching Rob
the Indiana Fever against the Washington mystics.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Now, n b A.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Hey the fever up five?
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Uh give a w NBA. Come on, Chris, what are
you doing? What's happened to you.
Speaker 5 (01:22):
No, I'm watching a game Caitlyn Clark is playing, and
uh D, I'm gonna give you the update. Yes, they're
they're now, they're two and nine. We know the fever
are bad, but the mystics are zero and ten. So
that's why this is a barn burner.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
I got a fever.
Speaker 5 (01:38):
But yeah, Clark robed twenty five points, seven boards, six assists,
three steals, but also six turnovers, so she's having a
pretty good game. But outside of the turnover, she's eight
for thirteen from the floor.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
But yes, we have.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
An interesting conversation here. I mean, you're talking about me
giving an update. We about to do a whole segment it.
But Caitlyn Clark was talking rob. It's been obviously the
w n B A has been in the news race
gender broadcasters being called out assault charge right right assault claims.
(02:20):
I mean, the Chicago Tribune has been, you know, called
on the carpet by us but also by others. So yeah,
it's a lot of drama right now surrounding Indiana Fever.
Caitlyn Clark and the w n B as the whole
Here's what Kaitlyn Clark said about it.
Speaker 6 (02:39):
Sometimes it stinks how much you know, the conversation is
outside of basketball and not the product on the floor,
and amazing players that are on the floor, and how
good they all have some for their teams, and how
great the season has been.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Somebody college basketball to.
Speaker 6 (02:51):
Now the w n B A some of the crowds,
are you known?
Speaker 7 (02:53):
Precedented?
Speaker 1 (02:55):
It's playing while you would talk.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
I don't even hear anything. Okay, y'all must have cut
me off? Is it sound on?
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Did y'all lose me? Yes? Chris stop talking? Can you
hear me? Yeah? We love rob G? We lost Chris? Okay,
rob G? All right?
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Uh, it's the odd couple. We just played the sound
and basically Caitlin Clark is lamenting over the idea that, uh,
the people aren't you know, talking about the uh talking
about the x's and o's of basketball, and it's more
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about the personalities and the drama and the soap opera
kind of thing that's going on with the women of
the w NBA. Rob G and I I think she's right,
we are getting that, But I just are we really
supposed to break down w NBA stuff or is it
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like personalities? I mean, we saw Caitlin when she said
in those logo threes that got people all excited, got
people into it. They wanted to see what she was about.
But there's a lot of drama that goes on and
that's a part of sports as well.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Is she right or wrong? You think she's wrong, rob G.
Speaker 8 (04:20):
I have some issue with what she is saying because
this is what happens in every you know, big time sport.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Right.
Speaker 8 (04:30):
If it was just about x's and o's and breaking
down film and things like that, then Steven A. Smith
will not be the most popular guy in sports media.
You know, it would be Zach Lowe, It'd be great
cosel It'll it'd be JJ.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
REDDD doing that stuff.
Speaker 8 (04:47):
No, I'm with you, And so what sells, especially to
the common fan is everything else. There's one thing about
the NBA which I had conversation with a lot of people,
both know on camera, off camera, on the mic, off
the mic, you know, both sides of the spectrum, people
who are forward facing personalities and people who work in
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the production side. And one thing we talked about with
the NBA especially is for whatever reason, all of the
social media clips, the YouTube clips, the video TV clips
of people talking about free agency and trade rumors and
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who might go where? And this guy frustrated this situation,
and you know Lebron might try to force his way
out of Cleveland. Whatever gets way more traction than Oh,
did you see the way that they beat the Memphis
Grizzlies with the high pick and roll action. Like casual
sports fans tune into sports for drama, for soap opa.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
There's a piece of that. There's no doubt about it.
There's no doubt about it.
Speaker 8 (05:57):
And what Kaylin Clark is seeing right now is in
the WNBA, which didn't have the same mainstream success as
the other sports, is the way it's being covered is
the exact same way that the other major professional leaguer.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
There's a lot of that there is. So that's why
I said, she's not wrong. She's not wrong about the
idea that the drama gets attention. Are we really gonna
go on the radio and break down the w NBA
game last night, Rob g We don't even do that
for NBA games most of the time.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Are we breaking down games? We don't break down games.
Speaker 8 (06:37):
So so, but you have a problem with well, you
agree with her, though, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
No, I do I agree, But I'm trying to say
I think what she's saying is right, But this is
the way that you get attention, right, and that people
are gonna talk about the league, not about just what
somebody shot last night or at the fever one. Another
game like that is not going to make a conversation, right,
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we talk about all the time.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
I love baseball.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
We're not gonna talk about the Pirates and Rangers game
on Tuesday night, right, that was four to three. There's
nothing there, right, That's what I'm talking about. Yeah, And
you guys gotta be more meat.
Speaker 8 (07:17):
To it, exactly, gotta be and and there are exceptions
to every rule. And this is something we talked about
with baseball, me and you earlier today on the phone.
With baseball on the national level, it usually has to
be something controversial, something juicy, usual, honestly, something negative, yep,
for it to permeate on a national level. You know,
Outside of this show, and I think maybe Jason Smith
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show does a good job talking about of baseball, most
of the national shows don't talk baseball like that unless
it's a paid partnership. So, like you know, some of
the FS one shows might talk about Yankees Dodgers series
on Fox A Fox, and the same thing can be said,
I believe when it comes to soccer, samely can be said.
Right now, the WNBA is that's their way of cutting
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through the gristle and getting people to tune in.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
Yeah, I'm back in, guys, I've missed what you've said.
So so, Chris, what did it even? I don't even
know exactly what Caitlin Clark said.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Rob, do you want to play it again? Mary played
again and then Chris listened.
Speaker 6 (08:19):
Okay, sometimes it stinks how much, you know, the conversation
is outside of basketball and not the product on the
floor and the amazing players that are on the floor
and how good they are for their teams, and how
great this season has been for women's basketball, going from
college basketball to now the WNBA. Some of the crowds are,
you know, unprecedented.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Chris, let me just say, let me just give you
my little one minute right thirty seconds. I'm just saying
she's right, But that's how we cover sports, Like we're
not breaking down a w NBA game or talking about
the fever one game last night. That'll never make.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
It all in five seconds of me giving you a
little stat tonight on that and agree.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
And I said the same thing.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Chris said, We're not gonna talk about a Pittsburgh piratesh
Texas Ranger Tuesday night game that ended four to three.
That's not gonna make it on. It's gotta be juicy,
it's gotta have a little rub. So that's where I'm at.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
She's absolutely right, She's right, But Rob, I agree with
you wholeheartedly. There are two sports for whatever reason, but
right now they are essentially two sports Rob that people
talk about for the most part on national television and radio,
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the NBA and the NFL. And if you want to
throw college football in there kind of as a third.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
We're a rob. We don't.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
And you know when this first started happening, you know,
years ago, when you and I would be on first
take with Skip and I was baffled as to why
we weren't talking more baseball because it'd be baseball season,
even the playoffs, And you know, it came down to
the surveys and study groups and everything were showing people
(10:08):
wanted basketball and football and rob Let's and baseball is
still obviously one of the biggest sports in America.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
But what was the big story.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
When the last time this season, Rob that baseball was
on everybody's.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Tongue on television radio. What was the topic.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
The gambling.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
And the gambling and before that, steroids, you know what
I mean, Like like.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Those are negative thing, but that's the nature of it.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
It's like, so, I mean a fight, Rob, if there
was a big brawl in baseball.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
We talked about Tim Anderson last year when he got
knocked out.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
If there was a big fight in baseball or some
type of drama, cheating scand or whatever, we would be
talking more baseball and not We talk a decent amount,
you know, more than most, but everybody would talk it
shows and guys that have never talked it before. And
so she's right, but you're right, Rob, this is this
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is their moment. Jeane King said, you know the legendary
Billy Jean King tennis player, female who was this? She
was saying, don't blow it like this is you have
the spotlight And Kayla's right right now, it's nobody's breaking
down the games. Asia Wilson is phenomenal. Nobody's really talking
about her. But that's just Rob. We didn't talk about
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men's college basketball this year. Nobody talks about that anymore.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
No, it's just not where we are in this and
we're not going to be breaking down that kind of stuff.
It's just not a part of the vernacular. Is that
the right term, you know what I mean of what
we're talking about these days. So it's got to have
a we's got to have something, Chris, to have you
pick either side, you know, we need something like that
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talking about the fever. And they won a game, and
boy they had balanced scoring. They had five people in
double figures. I guess a topic.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Yeah, and Rob.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
The reason, and you know this, the reason it has
become all NBA and NFL on TV and radio is
because these study groups have shown that when you talk
those topics, the ratings go high, and when you talk
other sports they dip. That's why the NFL is talked
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about year round. That's why the NBA, it pretty much
is talked about year round.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
That's it.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
It's not about what you just like, you know, Stephen
A was called out.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
You're right, Monica McNutt said, you could have been.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Talking about this three months ago. No.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
No, he wasn't talking about baseball three years ago either.
I mean, for the most part, like it didn't warrant
the coverage because the fan base is not clamoring for it.
Now with Caitlyn Clark, with Angel Reese, they're claming for
some WNBA information they're not claming for. As you said,
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Rob breaking down the ex'es and o's of the New
York Liberty and you know, the Connecticut Son if that's
their name, you know, it's just.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Not No one's gonna listen to that, and that's not
going to what will keep you. And we've done more
and talked about her and different things than we ever did.
I mean, Chris, I went to someone I was a
columnist in New York at news Day and I went
to some Liberty games early on. You know that was
twenty years ago, twenty five years ago, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
But that's it, that's Rob.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
You can't say it's sexism in this case. Now, there's
obviously sexism that exists in sports and out of sports,
but in this case, because we're not talking much about baseball,
we're not talking much about college basketball.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Men, we're not talking soccer, we don't talking hockey.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
Rob g taels us all the time off the air,
hockey is the most exciting playoffs.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
It is to him and you said you You just
said it too. It is a playoff talk a bit.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
We have never talked. We have never done one hockey
topic on this show.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
I think we did one. When you off, just one,
I think you might have.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
No what I always tell you this too, I wouldn't
even know where to begin what. We don't talk boxing
for the most No.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
I mean, I think they gotta be a really big
fight and then we'll have to have somebody on Chris
to really talk about it. But I was gonna say
the only reason I got my uh, I think I
won the job in Detroit to be a columnist was
my knowledge of hockey Chris going to hockey town and
in the job, you know what I mean, like they
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were looking especially for somebody right, You know what I
mean as a column that you got to be able
to go right to cover hockey games. And I knew
the backup goaltender of the Islanders team that won for
Stanley Cups in a row. So when I told them
Glenn Chicico Rush, they almost fell out of their seats,
you know what I mean, Like who knows the backup
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goalie right?
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Well?
Speaker 5 (15:15):
And you know Rob I you know, I covered some
hockey when I was in at the Acronbeacus spitfires, right
was the name? I don't remember the name. No, I
don't remember the name of the team, but you can
learn the oh yeah, you know, and then it right.
And this kind of plays into what we're saying, Rob. Ultimately,
it becomes about the personas, the personalities, the storylines. Even
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in football and basketball, which we do talk about. We're
talking about stories, Rob, We're writing about stories and drama
and and and you know, beefs and rivalries.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
That's what it is. That's what it is.
Speaker 5 (15:55):
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Speaker 1 (16:00):
What do you think about you know.
Speaker 5 (16:01):
Caitlin Clark's claim, and it's not just her, others have
said rightly that everybody's talking about the WNBA but not
for the basketball. But that's kind of how it is
right now in sports, particularly those that aren't the football
and NBA basketball.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
But what are your thoughts on this whole subject?
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Speaker 4 (17:37):
On Fox We're talking Caitlin Clark and the coverage of
the w NBA.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Your thoughts, all right, Chris, let's go to MJ who's
in New Orleans.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
You're on the odd couple Fox Sports Radio. Y'all doing great?
Speaker 3 (17:55):
How are you?
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Man?
Speaker 7 (17:57):
Hey man, I agree with you guys. And that's kind
of where I don't really kind of like that, uh uh,
kind of get down with inside that the NBA sometimes,
you know, I kind of want a little bit more
sports and you know, I want some some stack and
you know, give me some of the advantage.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
And you're not, Yeah, you're not going to get that.
There's it's a little.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Bit, but it's not about the shows.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
I mean, more shows give, most shows give more than
they do inside.
Speaker 7 (18:29):
I agree with you guys. You guys don't kind of
go for the TMZ sports type thing either, So I
mean I have to be a fine line and everybody
man fine staying follow the same polo call of just
going with you know, the three topics of Lebron and
Dak Prescott, right.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
That gets tired someme too.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
I hear a lot of people who like, I just
can't listen again, Like how many times we're gonna hear this?
Speaker 7 (18:51):
Like yeah, yeah, because I stopped listening to those morning
programs stephen A and Skiff and shame. I listen to
you guys every day, but I'm saying I don't want
the same thing every day.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Yeah, I'm glad you stopped listening to Skipping Shannon because
they're not on together anymore. I'm just saying, I'm just
talking nonsense. That's all, MJ. We appreciate you, Thank you,
go you yep. H seven seven ninety nine on Fox
is the numbers to have got a chance. We want
to do a quick call to call in Chris, but
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it comes with the territory. You want to be out there.
You want people to pay attention to you.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
It's all right.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
It's okay if they're talking about you, Chris, It's okay.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
It really is. I agree.
Speaker 5 (19:37):
That's why Rob, I've been consistent in saying this is
good for the w NBA. It flat out is and
I get it. But Rob, this is I mean, this
is Kyle. The WNBA is gonna probably be covered. It's
going to be based on like storylines. I don't mean
just now, but I mean for a long time. You know,
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I don't know that they're ever going to capture the
imagination like the NBA, you know, and so but yeah,
this look this could boost their revenue and attendance and
all of that.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
And you take it right.
Speaker 5 (20:22):
I mean, Rob, you noticed they're NBA players that hate
the way they're.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Their league is covered. Yep, big jib guys.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
I mean when when when big time athletes go to
New York, they don't even want to a lot of times,
a lot of times look at the newspaper, the back
page because it'll get you down, you know.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
And so that's just the nature of it of it all.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
But this coverage, however it is, is good for the
w NBA.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
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Speaker 1 (21:14):
What's that man? What's happening?
Speaker 10 (21:17):
Chris? Rob Ham'm wondering are the Lakers playing some intro
music for Dan Hurley during their sales?
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Pitch?
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Oh you tell us? I mean, what's the light you have?
What's the latest?
Speaker 10 (21:28):
Yeah? I don't know if they've played intro music, but
you know, they did talk today, but I think what's
telling is that there's a lot of radio silence going on.
But I know yesterday the Lakers, uh, they seem pretty
optimistic that Dan Hurley wood would accept the offer. But
we'll have to wait and see. What's what's really interesting
here that I'm trying to wrap my head around is
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that all along during this time, when we all thought
that JJ Reddick was the front runner, the Lakers always
maintained there wasn't one, and that they're talking to a
lot of different candidates. That that didn't change with this development.
But if Dan Hurley was their guy, why not talk
to him at the very beginning of this process that
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parts will confuss of it.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Do you think they got cold feet on JJ?
Speaker 10 (22:22):
Not necessarily. I don't think it's one of those things
that they listened to a podcast and all of a
sudden had the second thoughts. They think that from the
the very beginning, they didn't want to preemptively say, Okay,
we need a certain coach that is either one with
a lot of experience or it doesn't matter that they
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don't have experience. They wanted in their mind to exhaust
all the options because when they're interviewing candidates, it was
of the mind of looking at how would that certain
candidate look as a head coach, how could they potentially
look as an assistant coach. But there's no doubt that
just because you have a relationship with Lebron James, you're
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a former player and you know your extras and o's
does it doesn't mean anything if you don't have a
lot of experience to back it up. And obviously Dan
Hurley has that. And I think the other thing about
Dan Hurley, beyond the resume, is that they felt that
his learning curves he could overcome of not coaching the
NBA before because of just how he's willing to learn
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and adapt when you're looking at practices and the intensity
and getting on guys that's different in the NBA. So
it very well might happen that JJ Reddick is their coach.
If Dan Early says no, he might be on the
assistant coaching staff if he does say yeah. So this
is just I guess one of the latest examples that
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the Lakers show how unpredictable they can do.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
What There been some numbers thrown out as high as
one hundred million dollars as far as the total contract,
what I do think they going to have to really
make him a whopping offer I said today just not
as a report, but his speculation. If I'm him, like
Mayanty Williams gets thirteen million a year.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
And he lost his twenty seven games in a row,
right right, it's mostly at fifteen he's the third highest
paid Popovich sixteen curse seventeen and a half.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
If I'm hurly and I know I can go back
to Yukon and be there for the next twenty years
if I want, I'm like, I'm I think I'm asking
for fourteen fifteen million a year.
Speaker 10 (24:36):
Yeah, it makes sense. I mean, think about this. Almost
twenty years ago, the Lakers are trying to convince Mike
Krushevski to coach the Lakers, and he found it intriguing
because he could coach Kobe Bryant and it's the Lakers,
and he's had so much success at Duke. What else
can he do? But when you're in college basketball, even
though you're in the nil era right now, if you
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have something going where you have championships on your resume,
you're deep person with the program, even if it is
a glamour franchise with the Lakers, it's just far more
turbulent than is in college basketball. So it's not The
contract certainly helps, but it's also about, Okay, what's the vision,
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what's the stability here? And the Lakers, as we've seen
ever since Joel Jackson they retired in twenty eleven, they
go through head coaches at a very fast clip.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Here.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Yeah, but only thing I'll say is he wants to
coach in the NBA the nil you know, like you
want to in a row? Yeah, you've done all you want.
Have you ever been to stores Connecticut? Like okay, this
is you know, like I'm being real, Like it's okay,
Like I've done and I've maxed out here and now
I get a chance. Most of the time, the only
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jobs that open up, Mark are bad jobs. You got
to go to Charlotte and you got to go to places.
Those are the jobs you don't want, you know what
I mean. There's a chance to get a marquee franchise job.
We're they're not gonna be rebuilding, They're gonna spend money.
They're gonna have marquee players. Like if I'm getting into
the league and leaving a cushy college.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Job's gotta be for one of those.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
When Rick Bettino he went to the Celtics, you know
what I mean, he went to the Knicks. No, it
didn't work out, Chris, but you get my point right,
Otherwise Mark could take him a bad jobs.
Speaker 10 (26:28):
Yeah. Well, look, I'm sure if the Lakers are listening
to this, you might get a text soon saying, hey,
come in our pitch feeding. Yeah, because out really well
here it is the Lakers after all.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Right, Lakers, the Yankees, the Cowboys, right.
Speaker 10 (26:44):
And it's not a perfect job. There's a lot of
flaws right now that the Lakers are going through. But
there's a great opportunity the idea that you can be
the last coach to coach Lebron James Bridge, the error
to Anthony Davis, also develop some of the young players
that they have or develop players that they get in
the future. That's one thing that I think is to
(27:04):
the Lakers credit is that they have con see the
fact in today's NBA you got to have good player
develop them. And that has been I think a checkered
record in recent years because of just how you know,
they're always in championship or bus mode and they don't
have the patients or the cap flexibility to keep good, young,
(27:25):
upcoming players. But the more and more there are spending
restrictions that affect the second Apron, they are mindful that,
you know, it's not just about having the stars. The
Lakers do want the stars, but they want roster depth
around them. And one way to have good roster depth
is if you have a good coach and a good
coaching staff that can really accelerate player development.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
How do you think Hurly, I mean, you talked about
his coaches style, his intensity, he's yelling and screaming. How
do you think he and Lebron would kind of coexist?
We know Lebron's fond of him in respects because of
his tweets, but how do you think they.
Speaker 10 (28:02):
Mesh Yeah, well, to go from one hundred and forty
characters of a tweet praise to an actual relationship, I
think that what Dan Hurley will have to keep is,
you know, his enthusiasm for the game and how he transfers,
how he holds players accountable. It's not about having intense
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practices or yelling at guys. It's too long of the
season to do that and players will roll their eyes
if you start, you know, screaming into them all the time.
But you can hold players accountable with being very honest
during film sessions, pointing things out tactically. I think one thing.
As much as we talk about how today's generation of
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players don't want to be coached, I think that they're
more amenable to coaching when they see that coaches are
doing their homework and that they're prepared and seeing that
their tactics have actually worked. So I think that that
can really be transferable with the film's sessions as I mentioned,
as well as the scouter reports and how he makes
in game adjustments, and he already knows the game and
(29:06):
knows how to draw plays. So I don't think it'll
be that big of a transition.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
I was gonna say the hiring if they do take
early and JJ Redick is left out, you know, is
that is that a mark on Lebron? Is that a
like that they're not you know, they that they're moving
away from just checking off what Lebron wants done, Because
(29:37):
it seemed like that was out there in pretty loud
that it felt like Lebron was kind of going to
get her, was going to get JJ Redick in that situation.
But this goal goes against it, where they're going to
get a college coach who's doing stuff that maybe Lebron
hasn't done, you know what I mean, in his career
and and might not want to totally adjust to it.
(29:58):
Just seems like it's a a different move for a
guy like Lebron who has so much seniority.
Speaker 10 (30:04):
No, it's a very fair question because we know how
Lebron's operating. Clearly he's a fan of JJ Riddick. But look,
I mean, first of all, Hurley might turn down the
offer and say it U come but ye million head coach.
But I think he will accept the Lakers offer. But
you never know. But your broader point about Lebron looks
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the Lakers have not listened to him. Frankly since the
Russell Westbrook trade. I think that they've been of the
mind that whether they make good moves or not, let's
just do what we think is right. And I think
that dynamic is different in recent years than I was
in Cleveland, where every year it's always the possibility that
he might leave. I think the Lakers have had the
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mind that we don't think Lebron will leave, and he
can get upset with us, but he's still going to
perform at a high level and he's not going anywhere.
And I think that they're operating through that same presence
that even if he opts out of his contract, you know,
in late June, he's just going to resign a new
deal to stay with the Lakers. I think, on the
other hand with Lebron is that it hasn't sat well
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ever since the Russell West portrayed that he would get
blame for the Lakers making that move, and it's his
mind that he was just providing his perspective, but it's
the Lakers that decides to do it. And so with that,
he has been further and further detached of having direct
conversations with the front office. To be clear, that doesn't
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mean he hasn't gotten his message out. He knows how
to do that indirectly, but as far as calling the
front office directly this is what I'd like you to
do or not do, he's removed himself from that just
so he doesn't get blamed if things go sour with
those decisions.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
All right, that's our man, Funky Cole Medina, thank you
for the insights and have a great weekend.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
And who did you pick in the NBA Finals? Did
we get your pick?
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Well?
Speaker 10 (31:56):
Look, I was thinking Dallas because they've been playing a
better basth fuld SAMP, but better basketball in the I
talked a few assistant coaches this week. They convinced me
as Celtics because they got a complete team. And he
Porzingis is back.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
There you go, right there, you have it. Thank you, Mark,
We appreciate it.
Speaker 10 (32:13):
Ben, Thank you guys.
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All right, Rob, last night one of the and you
mentioned this earlier, but the one thing.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
That didn't go well.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
For the Celtics last night, and what was a great
game won for them, was that their star player, their
number one guy, Jason Tatum, was mediocre. Sixteen points, six
for sixteen from the floor, six turnovers. That's more or
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that's equal to what the rest of the team had combined,
and he had three of those turnovers in the first quarter.
Let me say this about Jason Tatum, Rob, and I
credit him for this, because he is a guy.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
That we judge.
Speaker 5 (33:54):
We tend to judge based on his field goal percentage,
like how efficiently he.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
Shoots, how many points he scores.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
And that's fair because that's how we judged most players,
at least the stars. But I'm going to give him credit, Rob,
in that he is not one of those stars that.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
Lets his effort be based on how.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Well he's shooting or how much he's.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
Scoring last night, six or sixteen, but he also had
eleven rebounds, which was a game high. He also had
five assists, which matched the most by any Celtics. He
also played good defense and so I get that he's
a star, not a role player.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
Those are role player of things. I'm mentioning it.
Speaker 5 (34:45):
But a lot of guys rob who are leading scorers
on teams, if they don't have it going offensively, they
might not do anything else.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
And so I'm going to give him credit.
Speaker 5 (34:56):
This whole postseason, he leads the Celtics in scoring, rebounding,
an assist. He's averaged ten assist the game for the playoffs.
Uh and he's you know, obviously almost six assists. So
he's not been shooting well, but he is doing other.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Things and that's what you want to see. Christa. You
can't stop playing because your shots not far. The game
is more than just that. So that's huge that they
got that from him, and he can bounce back and
now too. I think you know, you looked at Hey,
my teammates picked me up. There's not the same pressure.
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You know, Porzingis's back, Chris. He's a matchup nightmare, right,
And I mean it would be different if Porzingis wasn't,
you know, like, didn't look like that. I'm I'm saying
that Tatum's off the hook, but you know what I mean,
you got another body you got another guy.
Speaker 5 (35:50):
Well, and look, Derek White has stepped up when needed to.
Drew Holliday has and can step up. So they that's
their thing. They've got a team. And yes, Jason Tatum
is the most celebrated guy. He is, you know, I
think their best player. And look, Jalen Brown is you
(36:11):
know who was it on earlier that I think Derek
Harper said he thinks Jalen Brown is their best player.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
He's making a case.
Speaker 5 (36:19):
I mean him combined with with Tatum playing, you know,
kind of struggling, he's making a case. He certainly got
the early lead rob on the Finals MVP Trophy.
Speaker 7 (36:29):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
Porzingis obviously was great, But I don't see.
Speaker 11 (36:32):
Him no, no, no, you know every game, No, no, no,
but it's just an added bonus like that. Yeah, like
you don't even know, Chris, Like, uh, last night's performance
considering what uh you know, considering what happened with Tatum
could be was that the dumbest player I've ever seen.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
I'm sorry, uh, Chris, I'm just I just threw me off.
Guys at second base, he ran to third base when
the balls hit to the short stuff, like they threw
you out. You're in score position like, you don't do that.
I'm sorry, it's just dumb. It's bad baseball. But I'm
saying for Tatum having a bad night, that game by
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porzingis to set the tone in Game one might be
all you need from him, Chris, is what I'm saying.
That's what the point I was getting, you know what.
I mean that he stepped up when Tatum was down.
Speaker 5 (37:26):
Yup, and I think Rob, look, I don't unless Tatum
went berserk, which almost unrealistic. I mean, he averaged thirty
ten and six Rob in their last series against the Pacers,
first Celtic ever to do that in a conference final,
and nobody, you know, it almost felt like to some
people he didn't play that well, you know, so unless
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he has to go crazy to like, you know, change
his stature and the eyes of people, even if they win.
Speaker 4 (37:54):
But what I will say, Rob, is if they win,
you'll no longer.
Speaker 5 (37:57):
Be able to say he can't be the best player
on the champions team, and that would be a load
off of his you know. As much as I picked
the Dallas and I'm sticking with him, I do like
Jayson Tatura. I think he's a genuinely nice guy, and
you know I'd like to see him get this monkey
off his back, all right, A couple we out per
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Funky Cole Medina coming up at the bottom of the hour.
That's OK, all things n b A, but for now
we'll talk w n b A. I'm actually watching Rob
the Indiana Fever against the Washington mystics.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Now, n b A.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Hey the fever up five?
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Uh give a w NBA. Come on, Chris, what are
you doing? What's happened to you.
Speaker 5 (01:22):
No, I'm watching a game Caitlyn Clark is playing, and
uh D, I'm gonna give you the update. Yes, they're
they're now, they're two and nine. We know the fever
are bad, but the mystics are zero and ten. So
that's why this is a barn burner.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
I got a fever.
Speaker 5 (01:38):
But yeah, Clark robed twenty five points, seven boards, six assists,
three steals, but also six turnovers, so she's having a
pretty good game. But outside of the turnover, she's eight
for thirteen from the floor.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
But yes, we have.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
An interesting conversation here. I mean, you're talking about me
giving an update. We about to do a whole segment it.
But Caitlyn Clark was talking rob. It's been obviously the
w n B A has been in the news race
gender broadcasters being called out assault charge right right assault claims.
(02:20):
I mean, the Chicago Tribune has been, you know, called
on the carpet by us but also by others. So yeah,
it's a lot of drama right now surrounding Indiana Fever.
Caitlyn Clark and the w n B as the whole
Here's what Kaitlyn Clark said about it.
Speaker 6 (02:39):
Sometimes it stinks how much you know, the conversation is
outside of basketball and not the product on the floor,
and amazing players that are on the floor, and how
good they all have some for their teams, and how
great the season has been.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Somebody college basketball to.
Speaker 6 (02:51):
Now the w n B A some of the crowds,
are you known?
Speaker 7 (02:53):
Precedented?
Speaker 1 (02:55):
It's playing while you would talk.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
I don't even hear anything. Okay, y'all must have cut
me off? Is it sound on?
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Did y'all lose me? Yes? Chris stop talking? Can you
hear me? Yeah? We love rob G? We lost Chris? Okay,
rob G? All right?
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Uh, it's the odd couple. We just played the sound
and basically Caitlin Clark is lamenting over the idea that, uh,
the people aren't you know, talking about the uh talking
about the x's and o's of basketball, and it's more
(03:37):
about the personalities and the drama and the soap opera
kind of thing that's going on with the women of
the w NBA. Rob G and I I think she's right,
we are getting that, But I just are we really
supposed to break down w NBA stuff or is it
(04:00):
like personalities? I mean, we saw Caitlin when she said
in those logo threes that got people all excited, got
people into it. They wanted to see what she was about.
But there's a lot of drama that goes on and
that's a part of sports as well.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Is she right or wrong? You think she's wrong, rob G.
Speaker 8 (04:20):
I have some issue with what she is saying because
this is what happens in every you know, big time sport.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Right.
Speaker 8 (04:30):
If it was just about x's and o's and breaking
down film and things like that, then Steven A. Smith
will not be the most popular guy in sports media.
You know, it would be Zach Lowe, It'd be great
cosel It'll it'd be JJ.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
REDDD doing that stuff.
Speaker 8 (04:47):
No, I'm with you, And so what sells, especially to
the common fan is everything else. There's one thing about
the NBA which I had conversation with a lot of people,
both know on camera, off camera, on the mic, off
the mic, you know, both sides of the spectrum, people
who are forward facing personalities and people who work in
(05:07):
the production side. And one thing we talked about with
the NBA especially is for whatever reason, all of the
social media clips, the YouTube clips, the video TV clips
of people talking about free agency and trade rumors and
(05:29):
who might go where? And this guy frustrated this situation,
and you know Lebron might try to force his way
out of Cleveland. Whatever gets way more traction than Oh,
did you see the way that they beat the Memphis
Grizzlies with the high pick and roll action. Like casual
sports fans tune into sports for drama, for soap opa.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
There's a piece of that. There's no doubt about it.
There's no doubt about it.
Speaker 8 (05:57):
And what Kaylin Clark is seeing right now is in
the WNBA, which didn't have the same mainstream success as
the other sports, is the way it's being covered is
the exact same way that the other major professional leaguer.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
There's a lot of that there is. So that's why
I said, she's not wrong. She's not wrong about the
idea that the drama gets attention. Are we really gonna
go on the radio and break down the w NBA
game last night, Rob g We don't even do that
for NBA games most of the time.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Are we breaking down games? We don't break down games.
Speaker 8 (06:37):
So so, but you have a problem with well, you
agree with her, though, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
No, I do I agree, But I'm trying to say
I think what she's saying is right, But this is
the way that you get attention, right, and that people
are gonna talk about the league, not about just what
somebody shot last night or at the fever one. Another
game like that is not going to make a conversation, right,
(07:02):
we talk about all the time.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
I love baseball.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
We're not gonna talk about the Pirates and Rangers game
on Tuesday night, right, that was four to three. There's
nothing there, right, That's what I'm talking about. Yeah, And
you guys gotta be more meat.
Speaker 8 (07:17):
To it, exactly, gotta be and and there are exceptions
to every rule. And this is something we talked about
with baseball, me and you earlier today on the phone.
With baseball on the national level, it usually has to
be something controversial, something juicy, usual, honestly, something negative, yep,
for it to permeate on a national level. You know,
Outside of this show, and I think maybe Jason Smith
(07:39):
show does a good job talking about of baseball, most
of the national shows don't talk baseball like that unless
it's a paid partnership. So, like you know, some of
the FS one shows might talk about Yankees Dodgers series
on Fox A Fox, and the same thing can be said,
I believe when it comes to soccer, samely can be said.
Right now, the WNBA is that's their way of cutting
(08:03):
through the gristle and getting people to tune in.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
Yeah, I'm back in, guys, I've missed what you've said.
So so, Chris, what did it even? I don't even
know exactly what Caitlin Clark said.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Rob, do you want to play it again? Mary played
again and then Chris listened.
Speaker 6 (08:19):
Okay, sometimes it stinks how much, you know, the conversation
is outside of basketball and not the product on the
floor and the amazing players that are on the floor
and how good they are for their teams, and how
great this season has been for women's basketball, going from
college basketball to now the WNBA. Some of the crowds are,
you know, unprecedented.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Chris, let me just say, let me just give you
my little one minute right thirty seconds. I'm just saying
she's right, But that's how we cover sports, Like we're
not breaking down a w NBA game or talking about
the fever one game last night. That'll never make.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
It all in five seconds of me giving you a
little stat tonight on that and agree.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
And I said the same thing.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Chris said, We're not gonna talk about a Pittsburgh piratesh
Texas Ranger Tuesday night game that ended four to three.
That's not gonna make it on. It's gotta be juicy,
it's gotta have a little rub. So that's where I'm at.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
She's absolutely right, She's right, But Rob, I agree with
you wholeheartedly. There are two sports for whatever reason, but
right now they are essentially two sports Rob that people
talk about for the most part on national television and radio,
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the NBA and the NFL. And if you want to
throw college football in there kind of as a third.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
We're a rob. We don't.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
And you know when this first started happening, you know,
years ago, when you and I would be on first
take with Skip and I was baffled as to why
we weren't talking more baseball because it'd be baseball season,
even the playoffs, And you know, it came down to
the surveys and study groups and everything were showing people
(10:08):
wanted basketball and football and rob Let's and baseball is
still obviously one of the biggest sports in America.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
But what was the big story.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
When the last time this season, Rob that baseball was
on everybody's.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Tongue on television radio. What was the topic.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
The gambling.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
And the gambling and before that, steroids, you know what
I mean, Like like.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Those are negative thing, but that's the nature of it.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
It's like, so, I mean a fight, Rob, if there
was a big brawl in baseball.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
We talked about Tim Anderson last year when he got
knocked out.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
If there was a big fight in baseball or some
type of drama, cheating scand or whatever, we would be
talking more baseball and not We talk a decent amount,
you know, more than most, but everybody would talk it
shows and guys that have never talked it before. And
so she's right, but you're right, Rob, this is this
(11:16):
is their moment. Jeane King said, you know the legendary
Billy Jean King tennis player, female who was this? She
was saying, don't blow it like this is you have
the spotlight And Kayla's right right now, it's nobody's breaking
down the games. Asia Wilson is phenomenal. Nobody's really talking
about her. But that's just Rob. We didn't talk about
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men's college basketball this year. Nobody talks about that anymore.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
No, it's just not where we are in this and
we're not going to be breaking down that kind of stuff.
It's just not a part of the vernacular. Is that
the right term, you know what I mean of what
we're talking about these days. So it's got to have
a we's got to have something, Chris, to have you
pick either side, you know, we need something like that
(12:07):
talking about the fever. And they won a game, and
boy they had balanced scoring. They had five people in
double figures. I guess a topic.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Yeah, and Rob.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
The reason, and you know this, the reason it has
become all NBA and NFL on TV and radio is
because these study groups have shown that when you talk
those topics, the ratings go high, and when you talk
other sports they dip. That's why the NFL is talked
(12:43):
about year round. That's why the NBA, it pretty much
is talked about year round.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
That's it.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
It's not about what you just like, you know, Stephen
A was called out.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
You're right, Monica McNutt said, you could have been.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Talking about this three months ago. No.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
No, he wasn't talking about baseball three years ago either.
I mean, for the most part, like it didn't warrant
the coverage because the fan base is not clamoring for it.
Now with Caitlyn Clark, with Angel Reese, they're claming for
some WNBA information they're not claming for. As you said,
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Rob breaking down the ex'es and o's of the New
York Liberty and you know, the Connecticut Son if that's
their name, you know, it's just.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Not No one's gonna listen to that, and that's not
going to what will keep you. And we've done more
and talked about her and different things than we ever did.
I mean, Chris, I went to someone I was a
columnist in New York at news Day and I went
to some Liberty games early on. You know that was
twenty years ago, twenty five years ago, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
But that's it, that's Rob.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
You can't say it's sexism in this case. Now, there's
obviously sexism that exists in sports and out of sports,
but in this case, because we're not talking much about baseball,
we're not talking much about college basketball.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Men, we're not talking soccer, we don't talking hockey.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
Rob g taels us all the time off the air,
hockey is the most exciting playoffs.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
It is to him and you said you You just
said it too. It is a playoff talk a bit.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
We have never talked. We have never done one hockey
topic on this show.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
I think we did one. When you off, just one,
I think you might have.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
No what I always tell you this too, I wouldn't
even know where to begin what. We don't talk boxing
for the most No.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
I mean, I think they gotta be a really big
fight and then we'll have to have somebody on Chris
to really talk about it. But I was gonna say
the only reason I got my uh, I think I
won the job in Detroit to be a columnist was
my knowledge of hockey Chris going to hockey town and
in the job, you know what I mean, like they
(14:54):
were looking especially for somebody right, You know what I
mean as a column that you got to be able
to go right to cover hockey games. And I knew
the backup goaltender of the Islanders team that won for
Stanley Cups in a row. So when I told them
Glenn Chicico Rush, they almost fell out of their seats,
you know what I mean, Like who knows the backup
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goalie right?
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Well?
Speaker 5 (15:15):
And you know Rob I you know, I covered some
hockey when I was in at the Acronbeacus spitfires, right
was the name? I don't remember the name. No, I
don't remember the name of the team, but you can
learn the oh yeah, you know, and then it right.
And this kind of plays into what we're saying, Rob. Ultimately,
it becomes about the personas, the personalities, the storylines. Even
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in football and basketball, which we do talk about. We're
talking about stories, Rob, We're writing about stories and drama
and and and you know, beefs and rivalries.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
That's what it is. That's what it is.
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Speaker 1 (16:00):
What do you think about you know.
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Caitlin Clark's claim, and it's not just her, others have
said rightly that everybody's talking about the WNBA but not
for the basketball. But that's kind of how it is
right now in sports, particularly those that aren't the football
and NBA basketball.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
But what are your thoughts on this whole subject?
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Speaker 4 (17:37):
On Fox We're talking Caitlin Clark and the coverage of
the w NBA.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Your thoughts, all right, Chris, let's go to MJ who's
in New Orleans.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
You're on the odd couple Fox Sports Radio. Y'all doing great?
Speaker 3 (17:55):
How are you?
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Man?
Speaker 7 (17:57):
Hey man, I agree with you guys. And that's kind
of where I don't really kind of like that, uh uh,
kind of get down with inside that the NBA sometimes,
you know, I kind of want a little bit more
sports and you know, I want some some stack and
you know, give me some of the advantage.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
And you're not, Yeah, you're not going to get that.
There's it's a little.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Bit, but it's not about the shows.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
I mean, more shows give, most shows give more than
they do inside.
Speaker 7 (18:29):
I agree with you guys. You guys don't kind of
go for the TMZ sports type thing either, So I
mean I have to be a fine line and everybody
man fine staying follow the same polo call of just
going with you know, the three topics of Lebron and
Dak Prescott, right.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
That gets tired someme too.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
I hear a lot of people who like, I just
can't listen again, Like how many times we're gonna hear this?
Speaker 7 (18:51):
Like yeah, yeah, because I stopped listening to those morning
programs stephen A and Skiff and shame. I listen to
you guys every day, but I'm saying I don't want
the same thing every day.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Yeah, I'm glad you stopped listening to Skipping Shannon because
they're not on together anymore. I'm just saying, I'm just
talking nonsense. That's all, MJ. We appreciate you, Thank you,
go you yep. H seven seven ninety nine on Fox
is the numbers to have got a chance. We want
to do a quick call to call in Chris, but
(19:27):
it comes with the territory. You want to be out there.
You want people to pay attention to you.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
It's all right.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
It's okay if they're talking about you, Chris, It's okay.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
It really is. I agree.
Speaker 5 (19:37):
That's why Rob, I've been consistent in saying this is
good for the w NBA. It flat out is and
I get it. But Rob, this is I mean, this
is Kyle. The WNBA is gonna probably be covered. It's
going to be based on like storylines. I don't mean
just now, but I mean for a long time. You know,
(20:02):
I don't know that they're ever going to capture the
imagination like the NBA, you know, and so but yeah,
this look this could boost their revenue and attendance and
all of that.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
And you take it right.
Speaker 5 (20:22):
I mean, Rob, you noticed they're NBA players that hate
the way they're.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Their league is covered. Yep, big jib guys.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
I mean when when when big time athletes go to
New York, they don't even want to a lot of times,
a lot of times look at the newspaper, the back
page because it'll get you down, you know.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
And so that's just the nature of it of it all.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
But this coverage, however it is, is good for the
w NBA.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
All right, my, we got Funky Cole Mark Medina around
the corner.
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Fox Sports Radio NBA Insider Mark, Funky Cole Madina.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
What's that man? What's happening?
Speaker 10 (21:17):
Chris? Rob Ham'm wondering are the Lakers playing some intro
music for Dan Hurley during their sales?
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Pitch?
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Oh you tell us? I mean, what's the light you have?
What's the latest?
Speaker 10 (21:28):
Yeah? I don't know if they've played intro music, but
you know, they did talk today, but I think what's
telling is that there's a lot of radio silence going on.
But I know yesterday the Lakers, uh, they seem pretty
optimistic that Dan Hurley wood would accept the offer. But
we'll have to wait and see. What's what's really interesting
here that I'm trying to wrap my head around is
(21:50):
that all along during this time, when we all thought
that JJ Reddick was the front runner, the Lakers always
maintained there wasn't one, and that they're talking to a
lot of different candidates. That that didn't change with this development.
But if Dan Hurley was their guy, why not talk
to him at the very beginning of this process that
(22:13):
parts will confuss of it.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Do you think they got cold feet on JJ?
Speaker 10 (22:22):
Not necessarily. I don't think it's one of those things
that they listened to a podcast and all of a
sudden had the second thoughts. They think that from the
the very beginning, they didn't want to preemptively say, Okay,
we need a certain coach that is either one with
a lot of experience or it doesn't matter that they
(22:42):
don't have experience. They wanted in their mind to exhaust
all the options because when they're interviewing candidates, it was
of the mind of looking at how would that certain
candidate look as a head coach, how could they potentially
look as an assistant coach. But there's no doubt that
just because you have a relationship with Lebron James, you're
(23:03):
a former player and you know your extras and o's
does it doesn't mean anything if you don't have a
lot of experience to back it up. And obviously Dan
Hurley has that. And I think the other thing about
Dan Hurley, beyond the resume, is that they felt that
his learning curves he could overcome of not coaching the
NBA before because of just how he's willing to learn
(23:26):
and adapt when you're looking at practices and the intensity
and getting on guys that's different in the NBA. So
it very well might happen that JJ Reddick is their coach.
If Dan Early says no, he might be on the
assistant coaching staff if he does say yeah. So this
is just I guess one of the latest examples that
(23:47):
the Lakers show how unpredictable they can do.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
What There been some numbers thrown out as high as
one hundred million dollars as far as the total contract,
what I do think they going to have to really
make him a whopping offer I said today just not
as a report, but his speculation. If I'm him, like
Mayanty Williams gets thirteen million a year.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
And he lost his twenty seven games in a row,
right right, it's mostly at fifteen he's the third highest
paid Popovich sixteen curse seventeen and a half.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
If I'm hurly and I know I can go back
to Yukon and be there for the next twenty years
if I want, I'm like, I'm I think I'm asking
for fourteen fifteen million a year.
Speaker 10 (24:36):
Yeah, it makes sense. I mean, think about this. Almost
twenty years ago, the Lakers are trying to convince Mike
Krushevski to coach the Lakers, and he found it intriguing
because he could coach Kobe Bryant and it's the Lakers,
and he's had so much success at Duke. What else
can he do? But when you're in college basketball, even
though you're in the nil era right now, if you
(24:58):
have something going where you have championships on your resume,
you're deep person with the program, even if it is
a glamour franchise with the Lakers, it's just far more
turbulent than is in college basketball. So it's not The
contract certainly helps, but it's also about, Okay, what's the vision,
(25:19):
what's the stability here? And the Lakers, as we've seen
ever since Joel Jackson they retired in twenty eleven, they
go through head coaches at a very fast clip.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Here.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Yeah, but only thing I'll say is he wants to
coach in the NBA the nil you know, like you
want to in a row? Yeah, you've done all you want.
Have you ever been to stores Connecticut? Like okay, this
is you know, like I'm being real, Like it's okay,
Like I've done and I've maxed out here and now
I get a chance. Most of the time, the only
(25:53):
jobs that open up, Mark are bad jobs. You got
to go to Charlotte and you got to go to places.
Those are the jobs you don't want, you know what
I mean. There's a chance to get a marquee franchise job.
We're they're not gonna be rebuilding, They're gonna spend money.
They're gonna have marquee players. Like if I'm getting into
the league and leaving a cushy college.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Job's gotta be for one of those.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
When Rick Bettino he went to the Celtics, you know
what I mean, he went to the Knicks. No, it
didn't work out, Chris, but you get my point right,
Otherwise Mark could take him a bad jobs.
Speaker 10 (26:28):
Yeah. Well, look, I'm sure if the Lakers are listening
to this, you might get a text soon saying, hey,
come in our pitch feeding. Yeah, because out really well
here it is the Lakers after all.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Right, Lakers, the Yankees, the Cowboys, right.
Speaker 10 (26:44):
And it's not a perfect job. There's a lot of
flaws right now that the Lakers are going through. But
there's a great opportunity the idea that you can be
the last coach to coach Lebron James Bridge, the error
to Anthony Davis, also develop some of the young players
that they have or develop players that they get in
the future. That's one thing that I think is to
(27:04):
the Lakers credit is that they have con see the
fact in today's NBA you got to have good player
develop them. And that has been I think a checkered
record in recent years because of just how you know,
they're always in championship or bus mode and they don't
have the patients or the cap flexibility to keep good, young,
(27:25):
upcoming players. But the more and more there are spending
restrictions that affect the second Apron, they are mindful that,
you know, it's not just about having the stars. The
Lakers do want the stars, but they want roster depth
around them. And one way to have good roster depth
is if you have a good coach and a good
coaching staff that can really accelerate player development.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
How do you think Hurly, I mean, you talked about
his coaches style, his intensity, he's yelling and screaming. How
do you think he and Lebron would kind of coexist?
We know Lebron's fond of him in respects because of
his tweets, but how do you think they.
Speaker 10 (28:02):
Mesh Yeah, well, to go from one hundred and forty
characters of a tweet praise to an actual relationship, I
think that what Dan Hurley will have to keep is,
you know, his enthusiasm for the game and how he transfers,
how he holds players accountable. It's not about having intense
(28:23):
practices or yelling at guys. It's too long of the
season to do that and players will roll their eyes
if you start, you know, screaming into them all the time.
But you can hold players accountable with being very honest
during film sessions, pointing things out tactically. I think one thing.
As much as we talk about how today's generation of
(28:44):
players don't want to be coached, I think that they're
more amenable to coaching when they see that coaches are
doing their homework and that they're prepared and seeing that
their tactics have actually worked. So I think that that
can really be transferable with the film's sessions as I mentioned,
as well as the scouter reports and how he makes
in game adjustments, and he already knows the game and
(29:06):
knows how to draw plays. So I don't think it'll
be that big of a transition.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
I was gonna say the hiring if they do take
early and JJ Redick is left out, you know, is
that is that a mark on Lebron? Is that a
like that they're not you know, they that they're moving
away from just checking off what Lebron wants done, Because
(29:37):
it seemed like that was out there in pretty loud
that it felt like Lebron was kind of going to
get her, was going to get JJ Redick in that situation.
But this goal goes against it, where they're going to
get a college coach who's doing stuff that maybe Lebron
hasn't done, you know what I mean, in his career
and and might not want to totally adjust to it.
(29:58):
Just seems like it's a a different move for a
guy like Lebron who has so much seniority.
Speaker 10 (30:04):
No, it's a very fair question because we know how
Lebron's operating. Clearly he's a fan of JJ Riddick. But look,
I mean, first of all, Hurley might turn down the
offer and say it U come but ye million head coach.
But I think he will accept the Lakers offer. But
you never know. But your broader point about Lebron looks
(30:24):
the Lakers have not listened to him. Frankly since the
Russell Westbrook trade. I think that they've been of the
mind that whether they make good moves or not, let's
just do what we think is right. And I think
that dynamic is different in recent years than I was
in Cleveland, where every year it's always the possibility that
he might leave. I think the Lakers have had the
(30:46):
mind that we don't think Lebron will leave, and he
can get upset with us, but he's still going to
perform at a high level and he's not going anywhere.
And I think that they're operating through that same presence
that even if he opts out of his contract, you know,
in late June, he's just going to resign a new
deal to stay with the Lakers. I think, on the
other hand with Lebron is that it hasn't sat well
(31:08):
ever since the Russell West portrayed that he would get
blame for the Lakers making that move, and it's his
mind that he was just providing his perspective, but it's
the Lakers that decides to do it. And so with that,
he has been further and further detached of having direct
conversations with the front office. To be clear, that doesn't
(31:30):
mean he hasn't gotten his message out. He knows how
to do that indirectly, but as far as calling the
front office directly this is what I'd like you to
do or not do, he's removed himself from that just
so he doesn't get blamed if things go sour with
those decisions.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
All right, that's our man, Funky Cole Medina, thank you
for the insights and have a great weekend.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
And who did you pick in the NBA Finals? Did
we get your pick?
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Well?
Speaker 10 (31:56):
Look, I was thinking Dallas because they've been playing a
better basth fuld SAMP, but better basketball in the I
talked a few assistant coaches this week. They convinced me
as Celtics because they got a complete team. And he
Porzingis is back.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
There you go, right there, you have it. Thank you, Mark,
We appreciate it.
Speaker 10 (32:13):
Ben, Thank you guys.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
All right, peace, More Eye Couple coming your way. Fox
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All right, Rob, last night one of the and you
mentioned this earlier, but the one thing.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
That didn't go well.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
For the Celtics last night, and what was a great
game won for them, was that their star player, their
number one guy, Jason Tatum, was mediocre. Sixteen points, six
for sixteen from the floor, six turnovers. That's more or
(33:36):
that's equal to what the rest of the team had combined,
and he had three of those turnovers in the first quarter.
Let me say this about Jason Tatum, Rob, and I
credit him for this, because he is a guy.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
That we judge.
Speaker 5 (33:54):
We tend to judge based on his field goal percentage,
like how efficiently he.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
Shoots, how many points he scores.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
And that's fair because that's how we judged most players,
at least the stars. But I'm going to give him credit, Rob,
in that he is not one of those stars that.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
Lets his effort be based on how.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Well he's shooting or how much he's.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
Scoring last night, six or sixteen, but he also had
eleven rebounds, which was a game high. He also had
five assists, which matched the most by any Celtics. He
also played good defense and so I get that he's
a star, not a role player.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
Those are role player of things. I'm mentioning it.
Speaker 5 (34:45):
But a lot of guys rob who are leading scorers
on teams, if they don't have it going offensively, they
might not do anything else.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
And so I'm going to give him credit.
Speaker 5 (34:56):
This whole postseason, he leads the Celtics in scoring, rebounding,
an assist. He's averaged ten assist the game for the playoffs.
Uh and he's you know, obviously almost six assists. So
he's not been shooting well, but he is doing other.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Things and that's what you want to see. Christa. You
can't stop playing because your shots not far. The game
is more than just that. So that's huge that they
got that from him, and he can bounce back and
now too. I think you know, you looked at Hey,
my teammates picked me up. There's not the same pressure.
(35:31):
You know, Porzingis's back, Chris. He's a matchup nightmare, right,
And I mean it would be different if Porzingis wasn't,
you know, like, didn't look like that. I'm I'm saying
that Tatum's off the hook, but you know what I mean,
you got another body you got another guy.
Speaker 5 (35:50):
Well, and look, Derek White has stepped up when needed to.
Drew Holliday has and can step up. So they that's
their thing. They've got a team. And yes, Jason Tatum
is the most celebrated guy. He is, you know, I
think their best player. And look, Jalen Brown is you
(36:11):
know who was it on earlier that I think Derek
Harper said he thinks Jalen Brown is their best player.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
He's making a case.
Speaker 5 (36:19):
I mean him combined with with Tatum playing, you know,
kind of struggling, he's making a case. He certainly got
the early lead rob on the Finals MVP Trophy.
Speaker 7 (36:29):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
Porzingis obviously was great, But I don't see.
Speaker 11 (36:32):
Him no, no, no, you know every game, No, no, no,
but it's just an added bonus like that. Yeah, like
you don't even know, Chris, Like, uh, last night's performance
considering what uh you know, considering what happened with Tatum
could be was that the dumbest player I've ever seen.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
I'm sorry, uh, Chris, I'm just I just threw me off.
Guys at second base, he ran to third base when
the balls hit to the short stuff, like they threw
you out. You're in score position like, you don't do that.
I'm sorry, it's just dumb. It's bad baseball. But I'm
saying for Tatum having a bad night, that game by
(37:16):
porzingis to set the tone in Game one might be
all you need from him, Chris, is what I'm saying.
That's what the point I was getting, you know what.
I mean that he stepped up when Tatum was down.
Speaker 5 (37:26):
Yup, and I think Rob, look, I don't unless Tatum
went berserk, which almost unrealistic. I mean, he averaged thirty
ten and six Rob in their last series against the Pacers,
first Celtic ever to do that in a conference final,
and nobody, you know, it almost felt like to some
people he didn't play that well, you know, so unless
(37:47):
he has to go crazy to like, you know, change
his stature and the eyes of people, even if they win.
Speaker 4 (37:54):
But what I will say, Rob, is if they win,
you'll no longer.
Speaker 5 (37:57):
Be able to say he can't be the best player
on the champions team, and that would be a load
off of his you know. As much as I picked
the Dallas and I'm sticking with him, I do like
Jayson Tatura. I think he's a genuinely nice guy, and
you know I'd like to see him get this monkey
off his back, all right, A couple we out per
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