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March 14, 2025 37 mins

Rob and Kelvin take the Colorado Rockies owner to task for calling for the implementation of a salary cap in Major League Baseball and wonder aloud why Jim Boeheim and Tom Izzo haven’t won more at Syracuse and Michigan State, respectively. Plus, FOX Sports NFL reporter and columnist Henry McKenna swings by to discuss Aaron Rodgers’ uncertain future, the QB1 musical chairs currently going down with the Minnesota Vikings, whether Justin Fields throws the ball well enough to win big in the NFL and much more!

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Speaker 4 (01:05):
I don't forget Henry McKenna, Fox Sports NFL reporter and columnists.
He'll be joining us in about twenty eight minutes. Also,
last call and Duke was blowing out North Carolina and
now it's a six point game with four minutes to go, right,
they were winning. How big was that score? Rob g
Wasn't it like sixty to twenty something? It was more

(01:28):
than twenty points, Kevin, I don't know if you will following.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
I saw, I saw it was up big, and it.

Speaker 5 (01:34):
Was up big.

Speaker 4 (01:34):
And now it's six three and three forty one to go.
Still a lot of time, but quite a comeback.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
By all those rivalry games. Gubert Davis squad.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yeah, great comeback for them, and hopefully Man's will hopefully
get a bunch of you know, some games like this
in the tournament.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
So is Michigan State.

Speaker 5 (01:49):
Gonna win the national championship or no?

Speaker 2 (01:52):
No, you got to score points to do that.

Speaker 5 (01:53):
Rock Okay, So that's twenty six years without one.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Yeah, they'll they'll, they'll make it to the sweet sixteen.
Maybe I got to see the I could obviously before.
I have a strong opinion. But sweet sixteen ish, that's
what they'll do.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
He always makes hard competitive team Simon though, But.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
You gotta score, bro and he's like the Pittsburgh Steelers
and quarterback played the last decade.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
It ain't cutting it.

Speaker 4 (02:15):
All right, let's go to baseball here, and you've heard
all the stories on what's happening a Tampa Bay. It
looks like, you know, when their dealer is up in
three years, they'll probably get out of there. And not
going to build a new stadium. They had a one
point three billion dollar stadium thing set up. And then also,
you know, we know what the Dodgers did in the offseason,
spending all that money on these free agents, and people

(02:38):
looking at the Dodgers did the new evil m party
used to call the Yankees that, and now it's the Dodgers, right,
But then now we got to hear Rob g the
owner of the Colorado Rockies, chiming in.

Speaker 5 (02:51):
Because not much is expected of his ball club.

Speaker 4 (02:54):
So the easy thing to do is just blame the system,
and that's the reason why he hasn't been able to
win and why it's unfair and he wants a salary count.

Speaker 5 (03:07):
That's right.

Speaker 6 (03:08):
Dick Munford spoke to the Denver Gazette about that exact issue.
Must be noted, guys, he's going to the Rockies. The
Rockies have finished out of first place in the Al
West during the last five Major League seasons by an
average of thirty eight games, So it's not just that
they're bad. They are really, really bad, And he said
in the interview, again using the Dodgers as a backdrop,

(03:29):
because the Dodgers suddenly are just buying up championship even
though they got one, you know, in this format, but
you know, relatively, you know, because people don't they don't
want to count the shortened season for whatever reason.

Speaker 5 (03:41):
So we have a sixty game season. Baseball's won sixty two.
So here's what he said. Something's got to happen.

Speaker 6 (03:47):
The competitive and balance in baseball has gotten to the
point of ludicrosity.

Speaker 5 (03:51):
Now it's not even a word.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
Louis Atlanta, I liked it.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
I like I'm using it.

Speaker 6 (03:58):
It's an unregulated in the street. The only way to
fix baseball is to do a salary cap and a floor.
With the cap comes a floor for a lot of teams.
The question is how do they get to the floor.
And that includes us probably, but on some sort of
revenue split deal. I would be all in. This is
so wrong on so many levels. And Kevin, let me
start here.

Speaker 4 (04:19):
First of all, before the Dodgers won in twenty twenty, right,
the Dodgers have always had money. Right, one of the
marquee franchises in the sport and probably all of sports. Yea, Okay,
how many World Series did they win since nineteen eighty eight?

Speaker 2 (04:36):
None? The last couple few years ago.

Speaker 4 (04:40):
The Yankees they have a lot of money, don't They
haven't won a World Series since two thousand and nine. Yep,
the New York Metropolitans. They're a big market team. They
want a lot, right, they haven't won a World Series
since nineteen eighty six. I can go all and on

(05:00):
the cops. Remember they broke the one hundred year, so
they won one in one hundred and ten years, one
hundred and fifteen year.

Speaker 5 (05:08):
So that's Chicago. Is that a major market? Okay?

Speaker 2 (05:11):
Number three, number third, biggest mine?

Speaker 5 (05:13):
Okay, so you get my point.

Speaker 4 (05:15):
The Angels are in Anaheim, outside of Los Angeles.

Speaker 5 (05:20):
They haven't won since two thousand and two? Can we stop?

Speaker 1 (05:23):
And not only that, Rob, they haven't even made the postseason.
They ain't had the best players Mike Trout show, hey
on the same team.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
They did nothing.

Speaker 4 (05:33):
And this is my point is you can blame all
you want on this thing about parody, and there's no
it's just not true. In baseball, we talk about it
all the time. If the Dodgers repeat this year.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
The first time in twenty five.

Speaker 4 (05:49):
First time in twenty five years? Who's winning every year?
Can I tell you who who was in the World
Series last year? The Tech It's Rangers and the Arizona
Diamondbacks are those big time franchises? No, come on, you
gotta stop with the money. You could have money. You

(06:13):
could have a bad GM who signs bad players? Right,
things don't work out. We've seen it all the time.
You should be complained about the NBA and and and
they have a salary cap, and the NFL. Patrick Mahomes
going to the Super Bowl, Tom Brady went to the
Super Bowl one seven Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
They got a.

Speaker 4 (06:31):
Salary cap, right. And then here's the other part. Here's
the bad part about the salary cap. Talking about a
ceiling and a floor. Do you know what a floor does?
A floor play pays bad players? Could you have to
spend the money so you're giving it's not that it's

(06:51):
just that you're giving money to players.

Speaker 5 (06:54):
Look at the NBA.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
You have to fill up that have to spend this
one hundred and twenty. I gotta pay this guy who's
really worth four I gotta pay in fifteen.

Speaker 4 (07:02):
You gotta pay a bench playing fifteen million. Yep, So
I think he's wrong. I think it's just an easy scapegoat.
I have no issue with baseball. It's been spread around
the championship. We just talked about all the teams. Yes,
everybody doesn't win, right, But I don't think money has

(07:22):
anything to do with it.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
Watch this, so you you you said a lot that
I can't. I'm with you totally. Let me just add
to this. Okay, let's add them. So I'm gonna come in.
I'm gonna be the numbers guys. So check this out.
If you look at the teams who have won, let's
go all the way back, let's say the last thirteen
fourteen years, and if you look at their payroll, it's
a variety. It's not first, second, third, first second, their
first second. So the Dodgers were third, Yeah, the Rangers

(07:46):
were fourth. But then you go to the Astros in
twenty twenty two eighth. You go the year before that,
twenty twenty one, the Braks eleven, Dodgers won, in twenty
twenty their first, then seventh with the Nationals in twenty nineteen.
We got in twenty seventeen the Nationals. That's seventeen. You
got the Royals in twenty fifteen with thirteenth. We got
the Cardinals at ninth. So this isn't a matter of like, hey,
one to first, second, third, five, Now those are the winners.

(08:06):
If you start to look at the teams that just
participate in the World Series, look at this mixture of teams.
Rob You've got the big names. You know, you mentioned
the Dodgers and the Yankees, right, But then you get
teams like the Indians. You've got the Tigers, You've got
the Phillies, You've got the Tampa Bay Rays, you got
the Rockies.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
Look at all this.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
The one was saying is like, you've got the Cardinals,
You've got the Uh, You've got the Anaheim Angels, as
we mentioned, you got the Florida Marlins who don't spend
any money.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
You've got the Royals, who have been a couple of times.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
So my point is, look at the variety that have
either had a chance to win or won. It is
a team that spent no money to the teams that
spent all the money.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
So to me, there's no greater.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
Parody when you look at you have a chance, whether
I am the San Diego Padres or the Yankees, whether
I'm the Arizona Diamondbacks or the Angels or the Cubs.
All these teams in the last twenty three five years
have been in a World Series, and some of them
multiple shots. And again you got the Tampa Bay Rays
who've been there. They don't really spend any money. I mean,
the Marlins's been like the Diamondbacks, like including the Rockies,

(09:11):
like I mentioned, who is complaining about this as well?
And by the way, hol Stynbrander like, oh, yeah, we
might need to consider this. I mean, if you don't hush,
You've been doing this for forty fifty years spending all
the money. Now all of a sudden you want to Yeah,
we might need to look into a cap. I don't
know the Dodgers as long. I mean, if they stay healthy,
they might stop. At Yankees, you and the Rockies stop this.

(09:33):
This is ridiculous. I don't know if we've seen more
parody in the variety of teams that you have gotten
in the different markets and different sizes of teams from
mom and pops to massive conglomerates in the World Series, right.

Speaker 5 (09:45):
It would be different.

Speaker 4 (09:46):
And even when you go back, if you want to
go back to when the Yankees won those three in
a row in four ou to five. Remember those teams,
they were homegrown players.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (09:57):
Derek Jeter came from the farm system. Andy Pettick came
from the system. Berdie Williams came from the farm system.
Jo Hey Posada came from the farm system, and Andy
Pettitt came from their farm system. Like that, Yeah, those
are their players. They didn't get them from anywhere else.
They didn't raid the Rockies right and just offer them

(10:19):
all the money.

Speaker 5 (10:20):
Those were their players.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
And a lot of those Dodgers, especially at twenty twenty team,
a lot of those were homegrown, straight out the farm system.
So that's a great point. Some and the Dodgers, we know,
have an amazing farm system. So sometimes you got to
look at your own self, Hey, what are we doing,
you know what I mean, who are we drafting, who
are we grooming? How is our coaching, how is our
managing going that we're developing these players, Because that's a

(10:42):
great point. Some of these teams have had the success
that they've had was from the homegrow. Even that run
where the Giants, Giants were having a lot of those
guys were homegrown. So yeah, you bring up a great
point there, Rob, And yeah, I just like I said,
I mean, I'm bringing up the Tigers. I'm bringing up
the Indie Tigers. Look up where the payroll they made
the postseason. They didn't have a nerve. Yep, they didn't

(11:04):
have a great they didn't have a big payroll. They
made they they had good players.

Speaker 4 (11:08):
The Oakland A's haven't spent money, and I know the
last few years, but they've made the playoffs a number
of years.

Speaker 5 (11:13):
The last in the last twenty years.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
Yes, And I'm just yeah, it's just the parody in
the variety of teams as far as, like I said,
from market size to what they.

Speaker 5 (11:22):
Think, it's been great in baseball.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
To be honest, man, I mean, just like I said,
I'm just looking at this list I have in front
of me right just about I mean almost every team
who I didn't even mention, like the Nationals are they've won,
Like almost every team in the last twenty five years
has either won or been in a way the most.

Speaker 5 (11:40):
Won a World Series during that time two two thousand.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
And five, right, they've been in there. And so I
mean that's what I'm saying, Like, who you got a shot?
Like I said, the Royals went twice, they won one,
lost one in a game seven to They.

Speaker 4 (11:53):
Said, small market Kansas City's been to the World Series
and won one inside.

Speaker 5 (11:57):
The latest twenty years in a row.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
So and followed by that two years later, we're the
Indians at the time out of the Guardians. So, I mean,
it's just a variety of teams, and so I don't
I don't get I don't get it.

Speaker 7 (12:10):
It's just it's just an owner who's usually as an excuse,
and it's just easy to just exactly for accountability that
you haven't done a good job and you haven't spent
some money.

Speaker 4 (12:20):
You gotta get some players, but also you got to develop.
It's a lot of things that go in it. It
is not that easy. And uh, there's no doubt about it.
Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven
nine nine six sixty.

Speaker 5 (12:34):
Three sixty nine. And it's real easy.

Speaker 4 (12:38):
Should a salary cap exist in Major League Baseball? We'll
continue that conversation next with you. It is the odd
Couple on a Funky Flashback Friday, Rob Parker kelvin Washington
right here on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 5 (12:52):
Stick and stay. This could be controversial, but I think
we all need to start making a little less money
when it's that big in the US.

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Speaker 2 (14:04):
All right, salary caps its.

Speaker 5 (14:07):
Quick just Duke about to choke it down big time. Unbelievable.
They were up by twenty eight a half.

Speaker 4 (14:13):
Yes, they are choking and it's four point one seconds left.
Duke is up by one seventy two to seventy one.
Is it free throws or no? I couldn't see it
was a foul. I think, yeah, it looks like North
Carolina's gonna yep, we're gonna make take a couple of
free throws here, but go ahead, set it up.

Speaker 8 (14:33):
No.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
I mean, that's that's huge. That's a big, big comeback
for them, for sure.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
And obviously Cooper flag makes this whole thing a little
bit different, but big comeback when if they pull this
off for the tar heels.

Speaker 5 (14:43):
Oh no, and he missed it, of course, of course
I did.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
So it's you gotta have some drums.

Speaker 4 (14:48):
It's unbelievable, like when it comes down to it, because
because on the other end, Duke had a you know,
a free throw and you got to make the first one.

Speaker 5 (14:57):
Of course he missed it. And this is where the
nerves are steel.

Speaker 4 (15:02):
I remember the pistons when we always talk about that
twenty fourteen.

Speaker 5 (15:06):
The reason it was so hard to beat Chauncey and.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
Rip with great free that's greatoint.

Speaker 5 (15:11):
You know what I mean. And you gotta hold those
are the guys. The guards have the ball.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
That's what's gonna happen, right, yeah, yes, you know.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
I mean Chauncey was you know my eighties, maybe eighty six,
eighty seven.

Speaker 4 (15:21):
They made free throw. Is this a lame violation? You
gotta be North Carolina had a lame violation.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
Watching it now, man, I got it on my yeah,
I got it up.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
Now.

Speaker 4 (15:31):
That is horrible. Oh my god. Oh he put his
foot in. There's no doubt about it. He put his
foot in.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
Oh my, oh mo.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
Man.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
This but that's one of the things we don't talk
about with pressure and and clutch, and we often talk
about the shot, but it's the box out. Remember the
other night we watching the Lakers and they didn't box
out and the nets got the rebound. It is the
little things also have a feeling. Are we about to
see one of those magical college moments?

Speaker 2 (15:56):
Now?

Speaker 5 (15:57):
Eighty seven?

Speaker 2 (15:58):
No I'm blaming you. No, no, no, no, no do that.

Speaker 5 (16:00):
Now, time out of something going on.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
I'm about to time out you right now. That's all right,
we're talking about salary MLB. The Rockies a crying, Yankees
are crying. What do you think?

Speaker 2 (16:11):
Eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox So we.

Speaker 5 (16:12):
Got Kevin Culver City on the couple of Fox Sports.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
Shot it like stephen A, right there, Kevin, that's how
you said it, Rob.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
keV stephen A doing you? What's up? Kevin? God is
good all the time, brother, hey man.

Speaker 9 (16:28):
This is a clear oh yeah, absolutely, this is a
clear uh indication of an owner bitching and complaining about
not being able to pay players because the Dodgers won.
It wasn't a problem when they didn't want to sign.

Speaker 8 (16:43):
Blake Stale when he got one year deal for the Giants.

Speaker 9 (16:46):
He could have gave Blake still one hundred million dollars
a two.

Speaker 8 (16:48):
Hundred million dollars.

Speaker 5 (16:49):
Yes, it was.

Speaker 8 (16:50):
It wasn't a problem when they traded Nolan Aaron and
ship the salary because they couldn't afford him. It wasn't
a Dodger's fault.

Speaker 10 (16:56):
It wasn't.

Speaker 9 (16:57):
It wasn't.

Speaker 8 (16:57):
It wasn't a problem when they didn't want to play
for the Freeman. They could have win above playing paying
certain players. They got the money. It's not the Dodgers
fault that they paid the players. The Pots paid McDade
three hundred million dollars, Kevin hundred million dollars.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
Kevin, you can reverse it.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
What about all the years everybody called the Dodgers underachievers,
all the years they win and they spend all that money.
They ain't clutched. They can't win there from it?

Speaker 5 (17:22):
Where was he arguing, then?

Speaker 2 (17:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (17:26):
What was arguing?

Speaker 10 (17:27):
The Yankees?

Speaker 8 (17:28):
Uh paid Aaron's his big money. Look the Yankees. Yankees
were doing it for years. They paid alex Rod Reagan
but the biggest contract at the time to bring him in.
So I don't want to hear all that the poppy
time complaining about that. I mean the Hill He's paid
Bryce Harper contract. It happens. It's baseball. There's no salary, Kevin,

(17:51):
the players go.

Speaker 4 (17:52):
And Kevin, we have parody, don't we see different teams
all the time.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
Just listed them all out? Yeah, yeah, all right, diamond.

Speaker 9 (17:59):
Back Texas Rangers.

Speaker 5 (18:01):
No doubt. Appreciate the call.

Speaker 4 (18:03):
Thanks, have a good weekend, Scott in pencil Tucky, you're
on the couple of Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 10 (18:08):
Gentlemen, Thanks for taking the call.

Speaker 5 (18:10):
Hey, Scott, do you know what that's from pennsyl Tucky
or no.

Speaker 10 (18:14):
I actually do not know, but I've been called I've
been called a lot worse.

Speaker 4 (18:17):
No, no, no, you know what. It was an episode
of the Flintstones and pencil Tucky. Yes, pencil Tucky, go ahead, right.

Speaker 10 (18:27):
I think you and I both love this sport of baseball. Yes,
and I'll let you tell them where they can where
they can put the salary cap. Talk about prayer parody.
Go back a couple of years. Even the Marlins won
two World Series.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
Yeah, Marlins, the Giants, we can talk about.

Speaker 5 (18:45):
The Royals won a World Series.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
Tigers have been a bunch of work.

Speaker 5 (18:49):
The Yankees haven't won since two thousand and nine. The
Mets haven't won eighty six exactly.

Speaker 10 (18:55):
You know, the Rocky had the chance, all the free
agents they had, maybe the owner and the general manager
should go in and look in the mirror and say
let's develop some kids.

Speaker 5 (19:06):
Absolutely, we talked about it.

Speaker 10 (19:08):
She did. Thank you, Ron, Thank you Calvin.

Speaker 5 (19:10):
Always no doubt I have a great Ken Scott.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
Yeah, for sure, Scott, appreciate this.

Speaker 5 (19:16):
Scott.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
Everybody.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
Pencil Tucky, pencil Tucky. That's right for pencil Tucky, Scott
for pencil tucky. Hey, Henry McKenna, Fox Sports NFL Reporter
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Speaker 2 (19:26):
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Speaker 1 (19:41):
Well, it is the Odd Couple Robin Kevin on a
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Happy Friday too?

Speaker 5 (19:57):
You are you?

Speaker 9 (19:59):
Yeah, I'm good.

Speaker 11 (20:00):
Happy Friday?

Speaker 2 (20:00):
You all. Yeah, it's good man. There's so many different
and you know, the.

Speaker 4 (20:04):
Last time we talked to me and you get into
it over the Lions or something.

Speaker 5 (20:07):
I'm trying to remember. Hold on, Henry, do you remember
or you don't remember?

Speaker 11 (20:12):
I honestly don't. I'm sorry to say, Okay, you know
it's just possible there.

Speaker 4 (20:18):
Yeah, I'm just thinking because me, well, we just want
to make sure. I'd like to make sure we didn't
get into it. But it's all good, all right, Henry.
Don't let them do that to you because I told
that man for months. I told him Josh Allen was
gonna win the MVP. He don't want to hear that.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
I told him Eli Manning wasn't getting in the Hall
of Fame. He don't want to hear that.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
Though. He don't want to hear that. Henry, want to
hear that.

Speaker 5 (20:38):
I hope you didn't be sure I was.

Speaker 11 (20:40):
I was given you, guys the business about Josh Allen winning.

Speaker 10 (20:44):
M v P.

Speaker 8 (20:45):
That does sound familiar.

Speaker 11 (20:46):
That was I was on that horse all season long.

Speaker 5 (20:48):
Yeah, but he did season.

Speaker 4 (20:50):
It was a ridiculous vote because you can't win First
Team All Pro as a quarterback and not win the
m v P.

Speaker 5 (20:56):
I mean, it's either one or the other. Why wouldn't
they vote for.

Speaker 4 (20:59):
Josh Allen to be the first Team All Pro? It
doesn't make sense, I know, right, Yeah, that doesn't make sense.

Speaker 11 (21:06):
It was weird the I guess the voting. What I
heard was that it got split because it was such
a close race, and that people felt like, maybe you
give because it was so tight, you give it to
both guys.

Speaker 10 (21:21):
Inside of this way, But I.

Speaker 11 (21:23):
Don't know, I don't know what to think about that.

Speaker 8 (21:25):
I think you got to make your decision.

Speaker 4 (21:27):
Yea terrible All right, let's go with some football. And
what are you hearing about Aaron Rodgers. I know there's
three teams still out there, the Steelers a waiting. I
know he's talked to the Giants, and also who's the
other team?

Speaker 5 (21:43):
I'm's for getting.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
Giants, the Steelers, a Vikings, Biking and a Viking.

Speaker 11 (21:50):
Right, So I think it's it's uh, I think what
most people could see sort of the best case scenario
for him, for any quarterback really in this situation, and
it's the Vikings. Kevin O'Connell has such a strong track
record right now of elevating quarterbacks. We saw what happened
with Sam Donalds, we saw what happened with Kirk Cousins.

(22:12):
Even somehow Daniel Jones had a nice little internship in
Minnesota and he comes out the other end competing for
a job in Indy with Anthony Richardson. So like this
magic touch and it's real, Like I don't know about
with Daniel Jones, but obviously with Sam donald and Kirk Cousins,

(22:32):
we saw it and I think that makes all the
sense in the world for Aaron Rodgers, whether it makes
sense for Minnesota, Like, I'm pretty dubious. I think that's
in my mind, that's a big mistake. Like I would
not bring in Rogers, he's just too much of a.

Speaker 8 (22:48):
He's too much.

Speaker 4 (22:49):
Well, well, let me ask you this, though, I'll let
me I want to follow up on this. What does
it say about Sam Donald who in Week fifteen or
whatever it was they were, they were throwing champagne want
him and carrying him on the shoulders.

Speaker 5 (23:03):
He couldn't even get.

Speaker 4 (23:04):
Offered a franchise tag like they they looked at him
and he went to bed the last two games, the
two biggest games of the year, and it looked like
they soured on him.

Speaker 5 (23:14):
Is that fair to say?

Speaker 8 (23:16):
No?

Speaker 11 (23:16):
Yeah, I think that's one hundred percent fair, right, Like,
I think that the reason why they were comfortable letting
him go is because O'Connell is so confident in.

Speaker 12 (23:24):
Himself as like the the quarterback whisper of the league,
sort of how we viewed Sean McVeigh at the time
where he was getting Jared Goff of a young version
of Jared Goff, you know, to.

Speaker 11 (23:37):
The Super Bowl. I think that's sort of where the
perspective is on Keptain O'Connell, and I think he's right
to have that confidence in himself, which is why you
evaluate Sam Darnold's issues at the end of the season
and maybe you think, Okay, if that, if we couldn't
get past the first round of a one and done

(23:59):
playoff situation, then maybe we do move on. Maybe I can.
I'm just thinking, like Kevin O'Connell, maybe he can do
the same or better with JJ McCarthy because they drafted
tenth overall last year younger. But but you know, maybe
the tough thing is he's coming off an injury, so

(24:21):
I think that's a wild card. Anytime you see a
guy come back from a knee injury, they're not quite
where they should be the first year after. So that's
I think that's why there's there's some legitimacy to this
Rogers pursuit, is that Minnesota might need a real quarterback.

(24:41):
But you bring in Rogers and then there's absolutely really
no chance that JJ McCarthy sees the field. So takeetting
back to the you go ahead, sorry, yeah, go.

Speaker 5 (24:52):
Ahead, Calvin. I know you want to ask something on
the well I would.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
I mean, yeah, Rob and I have been going back
and forth about this for the last week or two,
and I'm just I'm just a fan and say, hey,
if JJ's your guy, you don let Sam go. Let's
go ahead and start the JJ run era. But I
want to switch to another team. That's kind of in
the mix of all this because he was with the Steelers.
Justin Fields, what do you make of the Jets signing
of him? Do they believe in him is just just
a stopgap for a couple of years, or do they

(25:17):
really believe, Hey, we might have something here a dominant
rod pay him like that's true, and he was out
there in Dubai celebrating.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
I bad at him. But what do you make of this?

Speaker 11 (25:27):
Yes, I think it's a one year tryout, but it's
a real one year tryout, So I don't think they're
going to bring anyone else in. I think they're going
to really give Justin Fields a shot, and I like,
I like where Justin Field is at. It was it
was so encouraging to watch him in those six games
that he got to start. I know he got benched

(25:48):
for Russell Wilson. I know that's largely about the relationship
between Mike Tomlin and Russell Wilson that they established before
the season and honoring sort of the promises that they
aid basically to each other. That was why at you know,
after six games and once Russell with someone selfie, he

(26:08):
got the opportunity to start all what we saw from
justin fields in that tight window of six games was
something that we really had not seen from him as
a pro. And that was like, you know, two reads,
decisive quarterbacking and moving on to his legs basically using

(26:29):
like what he was what he was hrafted to do.
And then like when you can get a guy like
that playing in the way that they got him to play,
you know, again just six games, but like it's it's
where you build from. It's like, once you get a
guy doing exactly what he was doing, that's that's.

Speaker 4 (26:49):
How past the ball enough though, I'm dead serious, Like
they were down at the bottom, what is passing and
what he was in there, and then Russell Wilson showed
up and throwing the ball downfield. They were scoring thirty
five thirty. It wasn't a big difference. You saw the
offense and I know that they really didn't have feels

(27:10):
throwing that much, but that's because they don't believe in
his passing ability. Are you that confident that he can
pass the ball in the NFL?

Speaker 11 (27:18):
Well, So I think I'm not saying. What I'm saying
is that, like what you saw in those games was
a strong foundation around which a good team can build.
So you're right. You bring in Russell Wilson and then
he's one of the best deep throwers in the game
even now, right, And so it brings a more vertical
element to that passing attack, which like kind of later faded.

(27:40):
Like speaking of Sam Darnold, something similar happened with Russell
Wilson and the Steelers' offense. That vertical attack faded. And
it might have been because Pickens got injured late in
the season and he couldn't quite get back right. And
Mike Williams comes in and doesn't like he's sort of
hot and cold. But when it comes to fields and

(28:02):
whether he's the true NFL passer, the answer is not
is not a parent yet. And And so like I'm saying,
we saw that the guy has the fundamentals, Let's see
somebody build on them. Let's see somebody give him the
shot to grow into the intermediate and deep parts of
the field where he's not yet confident at the NFL level.

(28:22):
The problem is you throw him into the New York
Jets organization, and my goodness, that is the absolute worst
place for a quarterbacks to grow. We saw it with
Zack Wilson. I mean, we saw Aaron Rodgers devolve into
nobody win fewer games in Zack Wilson, So.

Speaker 4 (28:40):
Smith, Sam Donald, we could go on and on. We
don't even have enough airtime to talk hole.

Speaker 11 (28:44):
I mean, yeah, I don't like I like that. It's
it's like one of those weird two sides of the
coin thing.

Speaker 10 (28:52):
I like that.

Speaker 11 (28:53):
It's great for the Jets that they got justin fields
because I think he's the guy that they can really
build around, you know, bill to him up. But it's
really bad for dusting shields that ended up in New
York because I don't think that they can actually do it.
I don't think I think he needed to go somewhere
else if he was going to get truly developed into
the quarterback day. And I really think he could someday be,

(29:15):
but it's not. It's a long way away.

Speaker 4 (29:17):
Yeah, And if it's bad in New York. You know
that might be it. People might go, oh my god.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
This guy might to a backup permanently.

Speaker 4 (29:24):
Yes, all right, last thing we need to get here
last day and got about a minute ago. Mike Tomlin
he needs to win a playoff game. He hasn't won
a playoff game since Moby Dick was a guppy.

Speaker 5 (29:34):
It's been a.

Speaker 4 (29:35):
Long time in twenty sixteen. I mean, really, doesn't he
have to win a playoff game?

Speaker 8 (29:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (29:41):
And that's why I think that the Aaron Rodgers match
makes the most sense in Pittsburgh, because you know who
really wants to win everything is Rogers and you really
and a guy who's that risky, who's that volatil, who's
that mercurial? People want to stay away from him. Well,
Tomlin's starting to feel a little bit of pressure. Ten
wins the thing cutting it anymore. It used to be

(30:01):
his legacy that he had to seeing success. Now people are
getting impatient. It's starting to feel more like Jeff Fisher's
eight wins every season, right, So I think people want
to see Mike Tomlin push past it. We saw the
dk met cast trade. That's step one. The next domino
to fall has to be a quarterback, and really the
only one that's left that matters, unfortunately for Pittsburgh in

(30:22):
my opinion, is Aaron Rodgers, and they might have to
work with him.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
All right, all right, we appreciate to Henry Henry McKinnon
right there, hen follow him, Henry C.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
McKenna on X. We appreciate you man. Have a great weekend.

Speaker 11 (30:34):
Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
Enjoy the weekend, no doubt.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
Hey, we had a lot lot of stuff we touched
on today. Some of you couldn't get in.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
I know you tried. Eight seven seven ninety nine on
Fox eight.

Speaker 5 (30:45):
So Hamilton wearing a tiger cat at.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
The yes, as he used to say, you remember I
was this day? Yeah, not that hot that that tiger tiger.

Speaker 5 (30:55):
Is so good today.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
It was fun boy. He ain't hitting it no more?
Man pull out, he put said he had a cap
on now, Oh my, oh.

Speaker 5 (31:06):
Rip Hamilton has the cap.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
It has the cat.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
Okay, well, last call eight seven seven ninety nine.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
It might literally be our last call.

Speaker 4 (31:14):
This is the last last call time on the odd couple.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
If you had a take and couldn't get in the
whole show, here's your chip.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
You call.

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Speaker 4 (32:13):
They have the they have the postgame show with a
duke player, and there's like nine people analyst on the
on the on the desk there, and Jim Beheim is
one of them. Rob Gewis. When you look at Jim Beaheim,
what do you think of No, I'm dead serious, Carmelo Anthony, Okay,

(32:34):
what do you think of Calvin?

Speaker 5 (32:36):
When you see Jim Bayham?

Speaker 2 (32:37):
Just, I mean just Syracuse is literally just Syracuse.

Speaker 4 (32:40):
I think, how could you have coached like fifty years
in just one one? Yeah, I do that's the first
YEME he coached like fifty years.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
Yeah, and isn't that crazy?

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (32:51):
No, it's over.

Speaker 9 (32:52):
Now.

Speaker 6 (32:52):
Why do you think Jim Beheim listens to the odd
couple and it's like, Rob, how could you be in
sports medius in nineteen eighty seven?

Speaker 5 (32:58):
I have any Marconi's you think he says that.

Speaker 4 (33:02):
Yes, but what the difference is, I've never been nominated
for Marconi in order.

Speaker 5 (33:08):
It's just like Emmy's on television. If I was in
the tournament, you would have won, like Jim Bann. Is
that what you're saying? Like I would want to cry
if you were, if you were in the mix.

Speaker 4 (33:16):
And you know this, Calvin, if you don't apply for
the Emmy, they don't come to you and just give
you seriously.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
Yeah, oh no, no, we just submitted, Rogerie, We just
submitted our stuff.

Speaker 4 (33:27):
Like people are Emmy Hoggs and whatever you want to
call them, Like you have to do you submit you categories? Yeah,
you can be so and one they don't win, they
tell you about the Emmy that they did win.

Speaker 5 (33:42):
Wait, first of all, I'm not.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
Relaxed because when I win Miami and I come on
here trying to stunt.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
Don't be trying to hate my emmy when.

Speaker 5 (33:48):
I and now we're all gonna know how you got it.
But you get you get my point?

Speaker 2 (33:52):
No I do? I do. Yeah, you have to submit
your stuff, Robberie. You can not.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
A good thing is you can't submit your stuff, right
because sometimes you might feel as a great piece that
many people need to see blah blah blast, so you
can submit it.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
But yeah, I get it is fit.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
I mean, that's why you were on the Jim Behind
and the time iszel because they've coached so long.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
Stop watching stop watching it.

Speaker 5 (34:11):
No, but here's my thing.

Speaker 4 (34:13):
If they're so great, like a guy like Tubby Smith,
I could give you twenty coaches who won one championship
and they don't get the respect or you know, the
deity like like that's what I'm trying to say, Tubby
Smith who's no longer coaching. But you could have looked
at his record in Tom Mizzle during the same time
and it wasn't that big.

Speaker 5 (34:32):
Of a difference. It really wasn't.

Speaker 4 (34:34):
But Tom Mizzle got all this love and he won
one championship. He's going on twenty five years without winning.
I just if Carmelo Anthony didn't go to Syracuse.

Speaker 5 (34:43):
I don't think Jim Behm would have a champion.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
That's a very valid point. And he walks away with
none after fifty years.

Speaker 4 (34:49):
That's crazy that they never decided to Dude, we need
to make a change here.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
Well, I do think that. And that's the thing about
college sports. You become the deity. If you're your your Alabama, you're.

Speaker 4 (35:03):
Rob g how many how many national championships did both
sham Beckla win?

Speaker 5 (35:07):
How about zero?

Speaker 1 (35:08):
None?

Speaker 2 (35:09):
He won none? They got car won that one.

Speaker 4 (35:11):
We got a statue out in front of the football
Hall at at Michigan. He should be holding he should
be holding a big zero in his hands.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
Doing it. I'm sorry, don't be doing that.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
You know my high school set one hundred yards from
the Big House.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
Don't do that. You got it, okay. I looked at
the Big House every day in my life. Yeah, pioneer, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (35:34):
I wasn't sure. I know that's right across the street.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
Yeah, literally, I tell people literally it's I used.

Speaker 4 (35:38):
To play in Brandon's celebrity basketball tournament and the.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
Golfer right there, right across the street.

Speaker 4 (35:44):
I think the at the at the Big at the
basketball facility I used to play in the basketball game.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
The urmyh Yeah right there man, the.

Speaker 5 (35:52):
Video of them carrying me out on the stretcher.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
I gotta send that to this to me. That's actually
did we even have Alaska? Are we just talking? We're
just talking all right? Uh No, I didn't know that.
But yeah, there's a bunch of coaches that kind of
live off though. Listen, that's why it's I totant just
to get one.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (36:06):
It is you gotta win at least you gotta win one.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
Hey, Rob g wat Schaw, I do this, you know
what I mean? Like Aaron Rodgers just living it up
off the one. Just lift it up off the one.

Speaker 5 (36:18):
Okay, you know what I mean? Damn Marinos? Was he
living off?

Speaker 6 (36:21):
No, if you want to play that game for real,
you know who's really living off one? The entire two
thousand and eight Boston Celtics team. Meeh, Like the entire
starting lineup basically is in media right now with plumb
jobs and they have one thing, yep, Docre.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
I would argue Doc might be living it up more
than any of it.

Speaker 5 (36:39):
Because at least and Doc is living off for that
because Kevin Garnett.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
I mean, we know how great he was period.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
Paul Pierce was Doc living it up because the opposite
he blew leads, He blew great team, he lost with
teams that should have won more So Doc is definitely.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
He's living it up. Guys, rob G, don't ever call
us up, Robb G. We don't appreciate that none at all,
Rob G.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
Great show, great week man, y'all enjoy the weekend out
there be smooth.

Speaker 5 (37:05):
The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon is coming up next.

Speaker 3 (37:09):
I never miss your radio show.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
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