June 10, 2025 • 31 mins
Rob and Kelvin debate whether DeMarcus Cousins was justified for trying to fight a fan that threw a beer at him during a game in Puerto Rico, and share their thoughts on the latest scuttlebutt surrounding Giannis Antetokounmpo’s uncertain future with the Milwaukee Bucks. Plus, NBA champion and FOX Sports Radio NBA analyst Antonio Daniels swings by to discuss the Cousins incident, why the Indiana Pacers have struggled so mightily against the Oklahoma City Thunder defense, and much more!
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in in the first couple hours, Rob g our little
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news of the day. It happened in Puerto Rico, and
it wasn't a pretty sight and it's something that we
need to talk about because I didn't like it.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Yeah, Rob, it's disappointing making me read a story about
the Hispanic brethren.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
In Puerto Rico. What do you like to what are
you talking about?
Speaker 4 (02:00):
But no, yeah, in all seriousness, are you No? Don't
we stand together? I mean, if we're keeping it a
hundred and you know, the Puerto Rican is probably.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
More with young than me. But why Dominicans?
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Yeah then too, But all right, any event, former NBA
All Star big man DeMarcus Cousins was involved in an
ugly scene in a Puerto Rican League basketball game. He
got into a verbal altercation with a gentleman sitting on
the sidelines. During the back and forth, Cousins grabs at
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his private areas and said some profanity.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
The man on the sideline flips from the bird.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
DeMarcus flips the bird back things get very heated, very confrontational.
As DeMarcus Cousins is getting escorted off the floor for
this run in, he had several dozens in fact of
Puerto Rican basketball fans throwing beer, throwing food at him
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as he exited the court. At one point it looked
like he tried to get into the stands to go
at these fans, but he was restrained by security before
he was eventually taken it into the locker room. But
it had there not been that kind of security, we
would have had Malice in the Palace Part two.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
That's how bad it was.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
And DeMarcus Cousins, I get it, you're not happy with
what went on in the arena, but you can't. I don't,
I don't, I don't care. You cannot and ot going
to the stands and fight fans.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
You can't. That's for security.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
That's for the people who it's their job to maintain that.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Going into stands.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
It was bad at the Palace of the Malice of
the Palace when they threw a chair like I always
go back to this into the stands, God forbid, it didn'
hit a three year old or five year old who
was sitting there, like they dodged a bullet. Can you
imagine if something happened because they threw a chair in
the stands and a kid was hit with it, Like,
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you just can't do it.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
I get it. It's not right, it's not fair.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
When you pay for a ticket, that doesn't give you
a right to be vulgar and say racist stuff or
you know, or or or mean spirit like like it
doesn't but under any that's just not your place. The
same way fan shouldn't come down on the court. Players
should never, under any circumstance, go into the stands point
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them out to security this guy that guy. We've seen
Lebron do that and other players where they've gotten people
put out Russell Westbrook I didn't agree with because they
call them Westbrook like to me that that that doesn't
border that that's sensitive. Like I'm like, I'm sorry, I
have a right to say Westbrooks exactly. I mean, but uh,
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DeMarcus Cousins trying to get into the stent, that's a
no no. Under any circumstance, any situation, you can't do it.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
This is why it's a complicated conversation for me, because
I don't know if it was one hundred and fifty
years ago, two hundred years ago, but at maybe centuries ago,
maybe it was the Gladiator. Oh, you know, at a time,
but I don't know what happened, where it became, and
only that facet of life. It's okay for me to
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call you fill in the blank in word, sexually explicit word,
a homophobic word, a racist word, call, talk about your kids,
talk about your mom. I'm doing this to your wife.
It's it's the crazy, Like what other facet of life?
You and I do a show. If somebody called on
our show and said, hey, rob By the way Blake,
we would immediately hang up. If you and I were
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doing a live event somewhere and that happened, No one
does that. No one walks into an office throws popcorn
at people, ice from sodas, beer and people. And so
it gets to me where I get your point, But
it becomes complicated. Where why are these women, men and
women the only people expected to just take that. You know,
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I do news in the morning. I'm not sitting around
and nobody just comes in. I hate the way you
do your news and spit in my face or throws
a battery at me, like football players get batteries and
snowballs and things thrown at them. And my point is,
we love sports. It's highly violatile, it's it's impassioned. You're
into it as a player, and you're right on the edge,
right it's football violent, you're right on the edge of
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like organized chaos. You're mad, you blew this player, this
team just beat you, and somebody's booing you, flicking you off,
and they throw a beer at or a snowballer, and
I'm supposed to be the bigger man, Like, I don't
get why that's the case.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Because that's enough for you to handle. That's the same
thing in a dispute whatever. That's why you have police.
You don't just go handle it yourself. Okay the bar, No,
no you don't, that's not that's not the best way.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
But you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
And as a profession, as a professional representing a city,
a league, there's all kinds of stuff. You sign this,
you decide that this is what you want to do,
your idea of going in the stands, you can get
the situation rectified. I'm not talking about somebody throwing a
bottle or or or like trying to injure you that
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that's that person has to be dealt with. You have
to point that person out whatever. But you can't be
where you're trying to get in the stands to have
an altercation and open up your your not only yourself
team league. Who you swinging on? Do you really know
who that person is? Do you really know who through
the beer? Do you see what I'm saying? Like, there's
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a lot that goes with it. And I don't think
that's where you want to be. And I don't think
that's where you want to be as a league where
players are going in and beating up fans.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
No, I don't. I don't. I don't think that you
ever want to be there. I don't ever want to
be there, but also want to go to work where
I don't have to deal with that. Right are you
and I come here? I expect it to be you
know what I'm saying, Well, or you be an adult,
You paid your ticket, come injoy the game. Call me Westbrook,
say boo, say you suck you whatever? Throwing out because
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you said west That's what I'm saying. That's why I
say you're allowed to say Westbrook is what I'm saying.
I'm saying now, I'm fine with that. I'm fa fine
what you're saying, I suck poo and all that boo.
I'm with all that. If it's past that, David, Alex,
we might have to knock. If you buck, we gotta
knock if you book. If you're throwing batteries at me, Rob,
if you're throwing snowballs at me, propt feels me dance it.
(08:39):
That's right, Look a rob, g you're calling my kids this,
You're flicking me off, you're grabbing my shoulder, you're throwing
soud in my face. Knock if you buck. I'm not
that type of person me. Kevin Washington, However you do
you if this is what I can't be mad at
an adult? Yes you can just watching you threw something
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at them?
Speaker 1 (09:04):
On Yes, on you as a professional athlete to go
to security and say that, dude right there, just did
this or that.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
That's what you do. You don't have to go settle it.
My daughter. I'm a grown man, Alex. Tell her what
I'm doing. My daughter's gonna get the teacher, Rob, that's
what I'm doing. No, you won't be a professional.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
You won't be a professional athlete for long because that's
not the way it should be handled it.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Never Hey, hey Rod Parker, mister red jacket person who
really ain't here for security, He's just trying to get
some free tickets every now and again. That guy right
there just threw a battery of snowball popcorn beer at me. No,
I've seen guys.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
There was a guy, a famous one where a guy
at the Giants came through a snowball. They had the camera,
they found out it was him and everything, and he
was ejected or whatever. I'm not saying that they shouldn't
be disciplined if they break the rules of being a fan,
and we've seen that, but that's not for every situation.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
You're trying to go in the stands to fight people,
wouldn't you agree to all that? Wouldn't know that. I wouldn't.
I'm just being honest. I don't know, Ron. I would
never go in and fight them. No, I would just
block them on Twitter. You know what I'm saying that
you would do that, But I don't know, right, I'm
a blocker.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Not It's my Twitter, and I'll block it by walk
to block it, by walk to block.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
If I walk to, you would block to if they
tried to dish you. That's what I'm doing.
Speaker 5 (10:39):
Rob.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
G's with me? Rob with me. I'm sitting here, look
at me, minding my business. And why do the matter
hits me? You might fight nobody. Just listen. The greatest
example is the mouse at the palace run our test
because he was not medy, yet try to do the
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best thing I've do. You not agree? No, he didn't.
He went like this, walked away from Ben was laid
on the scorts. No, but sousa. I threw what a
soda at him? A drink? A beer? So what what
do you mean? Rog come in here and throw that
soda you're sipping on right now and Rob face, No,
I'm just saying no, I would. I would just I
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would go get the authorities and I was you know, it.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Would be more offensive to me than him actually throwing
a soda on me.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
The identity threw a ten dollars drink and wasted it.
Maybe that's why that that would be you, That would
be that would bother me more than that that would
be you. I agree with you. That would you throw
a ten dollars soda on somebody? Rob, I can't believe
you're trying to sell me on this. I'm not serious.
I would never Robbie, where are you on this? Please
tell me I'm not crazy. I'm not saying every single
thing in life, but there's a certain point where a
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professional you can't fight at all. Ever, Rogi's with me.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
I would Dub one thousand percent, Rob one thousand percent. Now,
I'm not a violent person, so I'm not actively looking
to fight somebody, but I'm also not gonna not defend
myself if somebody is gonna throw objects at me like
I'm some circus animal.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Right, that's the crazy. You're an adult.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
It's not a ten year twelve circus animal. I'm talking
about fighting because somebody threw a drink on you.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Yes, yes, I'm okay. Watch this. Watch if you and
I you back on your cheesecake. You're excited, and we're
sitting at cheesecake Factory and you're at the bar. Hey,
by the way, let me get up. What are you
drinking with Cosmo? Whatever you're thinking? You get your Cosmo
and some guy goes hey, Rob Parker, I hate your takes,
(12:37):
I hate your show, and I really hate Aaron Rodgers.
And they throw a drink at you. Rob Parker's gonna
be knocking if he's bucking, and then I gonna go
hold my cheesecake and I gotta go help you.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
What I would do this, I would call Scott told
him that our bass that he needs to come over
the cheesecake factory because we got to know.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
They don't buy it, right, and you got a little
New York.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
And you still because I represent Fox Sports Radio at
all times?
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Do you listen to this show? We barely represent Talk
Sports right, we barely hanging on rock Alex, alexwear are
you come on my music?
Speaker 6 (13:16):
Just tasteful?
Speaker 7 (13:18):
How dare you think of scrimmaging and throwing these barbaric
hands on people for things that are just so trivic?
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Alex simple?
Speaker 6 (13:25):
Would you want to squabble of a fact?
Speaker 5 (13:27):
So?
Speaker 6 (13:27):
Would you like to disdain over tea and crumpets?
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Reason?
Speaker 1 (13:32):
I wouldn't even breathe no reason that you're not going
to give that god a satisfaction?
Speaker 6 (13:37):
Or I wouldn't even ask his name.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
The best part about this is I know for a
fact of some crazy I hate the odd couple through
a drink in Rob's face at cheesecake Factory. Rob Parker
will go full Queens, New York.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
So you know what I would dost class, I would
open my mouth to try to get as much of
it as the drink was coming.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
Crazy drop Rob, your your good friend very upset with
your answer this question. That was a crazy ya. So
we say what I said, your good friend fifty seying.
We really upset with you for this response.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
All right?
Speaker 4 (14:10):
Can I just say this on behalf of double We
got young kids who were both you know, gonna grow
up to be fine, worldly individuals.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
From ten years ago to ten years from now. These
hands are rated for everyone exactly exactly, And that's the
worst part. You listen these games. They gain't crazy at games.
If I'm at a game, even as a fan, and
you're fighting them, you follow my daughters because you're fighting
some other dude about men and tights. You best believe Alex,
you know what I'm doing, all right?
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Age seven, seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven
nine nine six sixty three sixty nine. Is it ever
okay for a professional athlete to fight a fan?
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Can you knock if you buck?
Speaker 4 (14:54):
As?
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Kelvin says, well, could we can? We'll continue that cover
say shit, where's your next?
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Speaker 3 (15:30):
So the cuck's going in the stands to fight some fans,
are you?
Speaker 5 (15:35):
Am?
Speaker 3 (15:35):
I what gonna go into the stands to fight fans?
Speaker 6 (15:39):
Would you?
Speaker 5 (15:40):
What's on what I'm going in the fans for? If
I see somebody up there messing with my family, messing
with my wife.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
No, no, not that just making up. They throw a
beer at you. They throw a beer at you.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
Man, That's what I'm talking.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Hold on, hold on us.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
Sayre here, mouth listen, listen, Rob. I know what you're
gonna say. And it's easy to be on this side
of it and say, you know what, man, they threw
beer on me or they spit on me. And you
gotta be a bigger man than that to not go.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
In to fan family. Man, You're not going in the
stands to fight fan.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Some drunk guy who threw a beer on you, I'm
shame on him for throwing a nineteen dollar beer on
you more so than the beer getting on you.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
My god, take a shower. Is that the end of
the world.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
No, No, it's not the end of the world, Rob,
But I think it's very easy to forget before you
were a professional, you were a man, and it's very
very difficult when you are raised the way and in
the environment that some of us come from. The money
doesn't change that. Like, you understand that you have to
be a professional, right, I get it, But Rob, it's
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very very easy to sit behind a microphone and say,
you know what if somebody throws a beer on you,
and somebody spits in your face or throws food at you,
all you should do is continue walkie, think about go
back to the moulice in the palace. Do you know what, God,
Jermaine O'Neil and all those guys, what started that? What
started the malice in the palace?
Speaker 3 (17:06):
No, I get it.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
The guy threw a beard down, all right, But my
point is a.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
D and you know this.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
They threw a chair in the stands that could have
hit an infil four year old kid, five year old kid.
Speaker 5 (17:20):
That's it now, Okay, now you're talking about something completely different. Okay,
but that's talking about completely different.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
And then when you go into the stands and you're
swinging on people and you don't know or whatever's happening,
you open up yourself.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
The league, the team.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
There's all kinds of ramifications by you.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
I'll tell you what I wish I could be on
with you guys for hours so we can just you
know what, wild.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
One day you're about to say what I am the players,
not the fans.
Speaker 5 (17:52):
You know, It's wild how the player always like the
players have to deal with whatever, it doesn't matter because
the player always has to be the professional and always
have to be the bigger person some of the things,
you know what. I'll give you an example. I can
remember when I was in college and even early on
the league, people saying things to me about my brother
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who passed when I was in college. We always we
always have to be the bigger one, you know. And
it comes to a point where, again I understand the
beginning word of professional athlete is professional, but listen, rob
we all have our points, we all have our tipping point,
we all have our boiling points where it's like, look,
(18:35):
I understand I'm professional, but listen right now, I'm about
to risk it all and it's worth it. So I
think it's easy to sit behind a microphone and say
how someone should respond as opposed to being in that
situation and being in that particular time and being forced
to be the bigger person all the time.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Hey, he sounds like he was right through some hands
right now, which I'm with you. Antonio Daniels, our guest.
Let's talk a NBA Finals. We had Game two, which
to me was exactly as scripted. Oklahoma City Thunder were
four and on at that time, coming off of a loss,
and they had won by an average of twenty points.
You almost got that. I think was sixteen was a total.
It wasn't twenty. It was sixteen, and Rob thought they
were gonna win. The Pacers be two and zero going
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back to Indiana said they had a chance to win
that game. And now you don't want to say it's
the chest. What are you making the series thus far?
One to one? And how do things shaping up as
we hit towards game three?
Speaker 5 (19:25):
Listen before the game, before the series started, I predicted
the five game series. I predicted the Thunder and five
and I'm not changing my predictions after Game one. It
didn't change my prediction. If you go all the way
back to two thousand and one when Philadelphia played the
Los Angeles Lakers and Allen Iverson went in the Stables
Center and lit LA on fire and they pulled out
Game one, and you know what, they didn't win a
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game after that. I can see this series playing out
that same way.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
And this ain't the same team.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
And I think you're totally disrespecting what you've seen from
the war from the Windy from the Windiana Pacers.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
I really do.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
I just and that's cool. And I'm gonna tell you
the difference between the Indiana Pacers from me and the
Oklahoma City Thunder. The difference lies in the defense. Right
to Ree Haliburton, who he's been all the way up
to this point. And I listened to the entire media
day today here Rick Carlisle talk about it, or tore
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Tyler Burton talk about it, or her Pascouiacom talk about it.
The Thunder are built different defensively because they have too
many people. You know the songs, you need more people.
They don't have enough. And here's the thing. When you
can go out there with Cason Wallace, who will be
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a future All Defensive team player. Alex Caruso, who was
first team on defense before Lou Dort, who's first team
on defense this year, Jay Dubb, who's second team on
defense this year. Say killers Alexander, who you can make
an argument could have been on one of the three
defensive teams and set Hongren their point of attack. Physical
defenders make it tough for Indiana to play with their identity.
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That's why it's not disrespect to Indiana. Basically, I'm crediting
the Oklahoma City Thunder for having a defense like we
haven't seen it.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
So if they win another game, what would that be
based on just an off night by The only way
that they could win another game is an off night
by the Thunder.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
No, no, no, no, because they could happen. It can definitely happen.
Like like you look at right now, Terrey Talliburton's averaging
fifteen and a half points a game and two games.
Everybody made a big deal about Game one because he
hit that shot with point three seconds left, but he
didn't play well. He didn't have a good game.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Yeah, But here's my reason is that is I think
that they can play better. They haven't played well. I
think I know, I think they can play better, That's
all I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
And I still think that the Pacers aren't dead.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
They've had an a dynasty, a destiny kind of run
here wherever. In every round they weren't support to win.
In every single round, they weren't supposed to win it.
But everybody thought that Knicks were going to waltz into
the NBA Finals because they're playing the Pacers.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
That's what people thought.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
There's a different drop. You know what the difference between
all three teams that they played in the first round
as opposed to who they're playing now. Rather it was
the Knicks, or it was Cleveland, or if it was
Jonas in the Milwaukee Bucks first round, you know what
all of them had that the Oklahoma City Thunder don't have.
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It's somebody you can target, multiple guys you can target.
So let me ask you a question. If you are
Rick Carlisle and Meandana Pacers, who are you targeting for
the Oklahoma City Thunder. We saw what the Thunder did
thenc Edwards. We saw how they made Sny Edwards look
mortal because they have excellent point of attach defenders. Listen,
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there was a point in the NBA where shooting was
the most valued commodity. That's dead now. Versatility is versatility
it is in today's NBA. You get you guys who
are three and D, not three or D that can
guard multiple positions like the Thunder half. This is now
the blueprint for the for the NBA moving forward.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Yeah, multiple guys who can do multiple things and don't
want to say in five minutes you can still be
a one off. We'll wait and see.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
I'm not I'm not there in that. They play really
well defensively, I'm not going to take that away from them.
They could win a championship, but we've seen different championships.
This will be seven years in the NBA. I'm not
convinced that this is some string and that people won't
do something or shape. He doesn't get all the calls
that he's been getting because they watched the run to
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the championship and they change the way that they call
the player, you know, call fouls for him. I'm just
not convinced that that's where we're gonna be.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
But this year anywhere, well, I know, I'm just looking
at the way it's not just the thunder look at
how Indiana's constructed. Look at how Minnesota's constructed, look at
how New York is constructed.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Boston, here's the.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
Reason that they went out and got Mickelbridges and paid
O Gannaoby with Josh Hard like that King. You want
guys that can guard multiple That whole one two, three,
four five thing is dead. Now you have a you
have a league guard, and you have four or five
guys that you can play at multiple positions, that can
guard multiple positions. That's not just because of the thunder
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that's been the thing around the NBA as a whole.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Any shoot. Another example will be Houston as well, a
d thank you, We appreciate you as always man.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
For sure, appreciate you fellas.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Yeah, thank you, Team Knuck. If you buck, he's on
it as well. No, he's not last goal. He's a
middle of the cloth. He is not into that, not
at all. Listen, man, Sometimes people got to get dealt
with Rob eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox and
seven seven on Fox. And I can't believe you're gonna
sit up here acting like you. I think gave you
the perfect scenario.
Speaker 7 (24:54):
I am, I'm a gentleman at all times, distinguished exactly loyal.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Stop it Security, this.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Guy right, Security, I don't have on a navy blue
shirt and pants on what a stripe on them?
Speaker 3 (25:11):
I'm Rob.
Speaker 6 (25:13):
It's below us to dirty our own hands, exactly, Rob.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Even in the gentleman times, they had a duel. Afterwards
someone had to die. That is very good. It's even
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Fox Sports Radio. It is the odd couple. Rob Parker,
kelvin Washington, Thank you for calling in on the trash
talking Tuesdays. Appreciate that. As always, one more time for
your boys. Where you get out of here. By the way, Rob,
me and Rob G happened to be in the break
room and uh you could see you know you and
I kind of started the show. What's all everything's happening
(26:01):
here in Los Angeles, Los Angeles area with the protesting,
the ice raids that are happening, it's starting to become big.
It's you said, we were looking at Chicago, New York.
And you can just tell you know, this is one
of the things that happens with the power of social
media where things pick up faster, you know, so people.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Are seeing what's going on and like, why aren't we
getting involved and why.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
We do young people when young people get they mean
historically it's always the young people been Vietnam War, college
rights and all that.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
They decide that Nick, we don't want this, you know
what I mean, And and it's a it's a lot.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Yeah. So started to see that when we just moments
ago in the break room, starting to see that happening.
So we'll, you know, keep an eye on that. But uh,
before we go, man, just the only other really thing
we didn't touch on today we got the Milwaukee Bucks
now and uh Yannis system conversations and maybe uh they
start to explore even more of a trade with him
trade scenario. He's just trying to mind his own business
(26:57):
on his vacation.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Maybe they're not going to tread and didn't exact rob
G say they'd not or they don't think they're.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Going to make a trade. Yeah, I figure that is
still posturing at this point, just to try to maybe
drum up as much as you can get because I
just think it's a it's okay for there to be
a perfectly amicable split. To me, it's not a four
going conclusion.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Giannest is a different animal because because he had a
chance to get out of there before without.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Even knowing he was gonna win a championship.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
And people chastise him if you remember that, like he
got he lost to Miami and Miami had the space
and the availability to get them robb G wasn't that it?
And everybody's like, you should go to Miami. It'd be
like KD, Like you got lost to a team and
then you go go play for that team and they
already got everything in place, and then you go down
there and win a championship.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
You're in Miami instead of Milwaukee. You know what I mean?
Who would want to.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Be in in Miami instead of Milwaukee?
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Disrespect to Milwaukee. It was dispectful. But I think I
think he has that that Damian Liver. But I also
think there's a point when listen, I've been there, I
think ten years now, ten eleven years, I've given him
more reason to stay there. No, I want to ring
and it could be amicable like, I don't think it
has to be bad, like I have to hate him,
and then I think he doesn't have to hate the organization.
I think it can be just a clean, nice, clean break.
(28:20):
You know what, we had a great time, We had
a great run. Always love when you did that one
little thing, and you know, always want to still love
your family. Don't forget. I'll still send you a happy
merry Christmas note and you know we move on. It
don't have to be bloodmaths, you know what I mean.
I think sometimes you can have a perfect scenario where
and if you're a fan of the Bucks, if you're
a Milwaukee Buck fan, like you actually don't have to
burn his jersey. You know, you don't have to feel
(28:42):
like you were slided in some crazy way because he
gave you his all, blood, sweat and tears. You just mentioned,
turned down other opportunities where he could have left and
gave it. He was different.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Now you burned his jersey because he didn't win the
first time he left that he walked out on the
city where he's from.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
I mean, now, do people burn jerseys robber organization? No,
but no.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
But my point is, if you're a fan seriously, and
you're from Cleveland, stifferent. The guy wasn't born in New
York or LA. And he doesn't want to be in Cleveland.
You're from here, My god, we were lucky to get you.
You're from here. We haven't won a championship since Moby
Dick was a Guppy.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
It would be great. It's a great story if Lebron wins.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
And that's why the championship be won in Cleveland is
so revered and so bad because that that's why people
were so angry.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
And it didn't help the way he did it too.
I agree with that. I mean, he left, It wasn't
It was like, Oh, I'm not gonna leave. I'm gonna leave.
Maybe I leave, I don't know'mae And at the last
twelve hour, I'm going to Miami, So I get the rage. Well,
the reason I bring up the organizations though, is because
Cleveland did nothing for him at all. But Shack played there.
(29:50):
I was about to be the fan. No, you're gonna
be the fan. I'm about to come fight you right now.
Shaq played there. Shaq, Shaq was seventy six years old.
That wasn't even Shack, that was actually Shaquille. That was
like full on Shaquille at that point. That wasn't Shack,
that Drew Gooden. Who else was a great player that
(30:13):
first time person like sixty five games. I don't because
Lebron can do you?
Speaker 4 (30:17):
You know, Shaq was all NBA thirteen the year before
he got to Cleveland. That's right, thank you, Rob. I'm
just saying that everybody always tried to make it like
Shaq play. He got hurt and that didn't help. He was,
did Shaq?
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Yeah? He was a whole solid is the perfect frame
he was with the Lakers. No, he was buff and
huge with the Lakers. He was four himself. He was
four hundred pounds pounds. I'm talking about in shape. Did
you the man was in shape with the yoker.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
In shape is loup in shape?
Speaker 3 (30:49):
What you look like? Get buckets anytime. I can't believe
you disrespected Shack like they acting like Shaq was. That
was That was the worst version. From then on, Shaq
was on seven different teams.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
He wants shocked, he want to Shacky, got true goodness
Shack because.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Shaq left there and went to Miami and then he
went no reverse, Rob stopping, stop, don't play with me
right now, I'm gonna beat all of y'all up. You
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news of the day. It happened in Puerto Rico, and
it wasn't a pretty sight and it's something that we
need to talk about because I didn't like it.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Yeah, Rob, it's disappointing making me read a story about
the Hispanic brethren.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
In Puerto Rico. What do you like to what are
you talking about?
Speaker 4 (02:00):
But no, yeah, in all seriousness, are you No? Don't
we stand together? I mean, if we're keeping it a
hundred and you know, the Puerto Rican is probably.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
More with young than me. But why Dominicans?
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Yeah then too, But all right, any event, former NBA
All Star big man DeMarcus Cousins was involved in an
ugly scene in a Puerto Rican League basketball game. He
got into a verbal altercation with a gentleman sitting on
the sidelines. During the back and forth, Cousins grabs at
(02:39):
his private areas and said some profanity.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
The man on the sideline flips from the bird.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
DeMarcus flips the bird back things get very heated, very confrontational.
As DeMarcus Cousins is getting escorted off the floor for
this run in, he had several dozens in fact of
Puerto Rican basketball fans throwing beer, throwing food at him
(03:06):
as he exited the court. At one point it looked
like he tried to get into the stands to go
at these fans, but he was restrained by security before
he was eventually taken it into the locker room. But
it had there not been that kind of security, we
would have had Malice in the Palace Part two.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
That's how bad it was.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
And DeMarcus Cousins, I get it, you're not happy with
what went on in the arena, but you can't. I don't,
I don't, I don't care. You cannot and ot going
to the stands and fight fans.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
You can't. That's for security.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
That's for the people who it's their job to maintain that.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Going into stands.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
It was bad at the Palace of the Malice of
the Palace when they threw a chair like I always
go back to this into the stands, God forbid, it didn'
hit a three year old or five year old who
was sitting there, like they dodged a bullet. Can you
imagine if something happened because they threw a chair in
the stands and a kid was hit with it, Like,
(04:08):
you just can't do it.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
I get it. It's not right, it's not fair.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
When you pay for a ticket, that doesn't give you
a right to be vulgar and say racist stuff or
you know, or or or mean spirit like like it
doesn't but under any that's just not your place. The
same way fan shouldn't come down on the court. Players
should never, under any circumstance, go into the stands point
(04:36):
them out to security this guy that guy. We've seen
Lebron do that and other players where they've gotten people
put out Russell Westbrook I didn't agree with because they
call them Westbrook like to me that that that doesn't
border that that's sensitive. Like I'm like, I'm sorry, I
have a right to say Westbrooks exactly. I mean, but uh,
(04:59):
DeMarcus Cousins trying to get into the stent, that's a
no no. Under any circumstance, any situation, you can't do it.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
This is why it's a complicated conversation for me, because
I don't know if it was one hundred and fifty
years ago, two hundred years ago, but at maybe centuries ago,
maybe it was the Gladiator. Oh, you know, at a time,
but I don't know what happened, where it became, and
only that facet of life. It's okay for me to
(05:26):
call you fill in the blank in word, sexually explicit word,
a homophobic word, a racist word, call, talk about your kids,
talk about your mom. I'm doing this to your wife.
It's it's the crazy, Like what other facet of life?
You and I do a show. If somebody called on
our show and said, hey, rob By the way Blake,
we would immediately hang up. If you and I were
(05:47):
doing a live event somewhere and that happened, No one
does that. No one walks into an office throws popcorn
at people, ice from sodas, beer and people. And so
it gets to me where I get your point, But
it becomes complicated. Where why are these women, men and
women the only people expected to just take that. You know,
(06:07):
I do news in the morning. I'm not sitting around
and nobody just comes in. I hate the way you
do your news and spit in my face or throws
a battery at me, like football players get batteries and
snowballs and things thrown at them. And my point is,
we love sports. It's highly violatile, it's it's impassioned. You're
into it as a player, and you're right on the edge,
right it's football violent, you're right on the edge of
(06:29):
like organized chaos. You're mad, you blew this player, this
team just beat you, and somebody's booing you, flicking you off,
and they throw a beer at or a snowballer, and
I'm supposed to be the bigger man, Like, I don't
get why that's the case.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Because that's enough for you to handle. That's the same
thing in a dispute whatever. That's why you have police.
You don't just go handle it yourself. Okay the bar, No,
no you don't, that's not that's not the best way.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
But you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
And as a profession, as a professional representing a city,
a league, there's all kinds of stuff. You sign this,
you decide that this is what you want to do,
your idea of going in the stands, you can get
the situation rectified. I'm not talking about somebody throwing a
bottle or or or like trying to injure you that
(07:20):
that's that person has to be dealt with. You have
to point that person out whatever. But you can't be
where you're trying to get in the stands to have
an altercation and open up your your not only yourself
team league. Who you swinging on? Do you really know
who that person is? Do you really know who through
the beer? Do you see what I'm saying? Like, there's
(07:42):
a lot that goes with it. And I don't think
that's where you want to be. And I don't think
that's where you want to be as a league where
players are going in and beating up fans.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
No, I don't. I don't. I don't think that you
ever want to be there. I don't ever want to
be there, but also want to go to work where
I don't have to deal with that. Right are you
and I come here? I expect it to be you
know what I'm saying, Well, or you be an adult,
You paid your ticket, come injoy the game. Call me Westbrook,
say boo, say you suck you whatever? Throwing out because
(08:15):
you said west That's what I'm saying. That's why I
say you're allowed to say Westbrook is what I'm saying.
I'm saying now, I'm fine with that. I'm fa fine
what you're saying, I suck poo and all that boo.
I'm with all that. If it's past that, David, Alex,
we might have to knock. If you buck, we gotta
knock if you book. If you're throwing batteries at me, Rob,
if you're throwing snowballs at me, propt feels me dance it.
(08:39):
That's right, Look a rob, g you're calling my kids this,
You're flicking me off, you're grabbing my shoulder, you're throwing
soud in my face. Knock if you buck. I'm not
that type of person me. Kevin Washington, However you do
you if this is what I can't be mad at
an adult? Yes you can just watching you threw something
(09:01):
at them?
Speaker 1 (09:04):
On Yes, on you as a professional athlete to go
to security and say that, dude right there, just did
this or that.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
That's what you do. You don't have to go settle it.
My daughter. I'm a grown man, Alex. Tell her what
I'm doing. My daughter's gonna get the teacher, Rob, that's
what I'm doing. No, you won't be a professional.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
You won't be a professional athlete for long because that's
not the way it should be handled it.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Never Hey, hey Rod Parker, mister red jacket person who
really ain't here for security, He's just trying to get
some free tickets every now and again. That guy right
there just threw a battery of snowball popcorn beer at me. No,
I've seen guys.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
There was a guy, a famous one where a guy
at the Giants came through a snowball. They had the camera,
they found out it was him and everything, and he
was ejected or whatever. I'm not saying that they shouldn't
be disciplined if they break the rules of being a fan,
and we've seen that, but that's not for every situation.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
You're trying to go in the stands to fight people,
wouldn't you agree to all that? Wouldn't know that. I wouldn't.
I'm just being honest. I don't know, Ron. I would
never go in and fight them. No, I would just
block them on Twitter. You know what I'm saying that
you would do that, But I don't know, right, I'm
a blocker.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Not It's my Twitter, and I'll block it by walk
to block it, by walk to block.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
If I walk to, you would block to if they
tried to dish you. That's what I'm doing.
Speaker 5 (10:39):
Rob.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
G's with me? Rob with me. I'm sitting here, look
at me, minding my business. And why do the matter
hits me? You might fight nobody. Just listen. The greatest
example is the mouse at the palace run our test
because he was not medy, yet try to do the
(10:59):
best thing I've do. You not agree? No, he didn't.
He went like this, walked away from Ben was laid
on the scorts. No, but sousa. I threw what a
soda at him? A drink? A beer? So what what
do you mean? Rog come in here and throw that
soda you're sipping on right now and Rob face, No,
I'm just saying no, I would. I would just I
(11:19):
would go get the authorities and I was you know, it.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Would be more offensive to me than him actually throwing
a soda on me.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
The identity threw a ten dollars drink and wasted it.
Maybe that's why that that would be you, That would
be that would bother me more than that that would
be you. I agree with you. That would you throw
a ten dollars soda on somebody? Rob, I can't believe
you're trying to sell me on this. I'm not serious.
I would never Robbie, where are you on this? Please
tell me I'm not crazy. I'm not saying every single
thing in life, but there's a certain point where a
(11:47):
professional you can't fight at all. Ever, Rogi's with me.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
I would Dub one thousand percent, Rob one thousand percent. Now,
I'm not a violent person, so I'm not actively looking
to fight somebody, but I'm also not gonna not defend
myself if somebody is gonna throw objects at me like
I'm some circus animal.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Right, that's the crazy. You're an adult.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
It's not a ten year twelve circus animal. I'm talking
about fighting because somebody threw a drink on you.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Yes, yes, I'm okay. Watch this. Watch if you and
I you back on your cheesecake. You're excited, and we're
sitting at cheesecake Factory and you're at the bar. Hey,
by the way, let me get up. What are you
drinking with Cosmo? Whatever you're thinking? You get your Cosmo
and some guy goes hey, Rob Parker, I hate your takes,
(12:37):
I hate your show, and I really hate Aaron Rodgers.
And they throw a drink at you. Rob Parker's gonna
be knocking if he's bucking, and then I gonna go
hold my cheesecake and I gotta go help you.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
What I would do this, I would call Scott told
him that our bass that he needs to come over
the cheesecake factory because we got to know.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
They don't buy it, right, and you got a little
New York.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
And you still because I represent Fox Sports Radio at
all times?
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Do you listen to this show? We barely represent Talk
Sports right, we barely hanging on rock Alex, alexwear are
you come on my music?
Speaker 6 (13:16):
Just tasteful?
Speaker 7 (13:18):
How dare you think of scrimmaging and throwing these barbaric
hands on people for things that are just so trivic?
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Alex simple?
Speaker 6 (13:25):
Would you want to squabble of a fact?
Speaker 5 (13:27):
So?
Speaker 6 (13:27):
Would you like to disdain over tea and crumpets?
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Reason?
Speaker 1 (13:32):
I wouldn't even breathe no reason that you're not going
to give that god a satisfaction?
Speaker 6 (13:37):
Or I wouldn't even ask his name.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
The best part about this is I know for a
fact of some crazy I hate the odd couple through
a drink in Rob's face at cheesecake Factory. Rob Parker
will go full Queens, New York.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
So you know what I would dost class, I would
open my mouth to try to get as much of
it as the drink was coming.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
Crazy drop Rob, your your good friend very upset with
your answer this question. That was a crazy ya. So
we say what I said, your good friend fifty seying.
We really upset with you for this response.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
All right?
Speaker 4 (14:10):
Can I just say this on behalf of double We
got young kids who were both you know, gonna grow
up to be fine, worldly individuals.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
From ten years ago to ten years from now. These
hands are rated for everyone exactly exactly, And that's the
worst part. You listen these games. They gain't crazy at games.
If I'm at a game, even as a fan, and
you're fighting them, you follow my daughters because you're fighting
some other dude about men and tights. You best believe Alex,
you know what I'm doing, all right?
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Age seven, seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven
nine nine six sixty three sixty nine. Is it ever
okay for a professional athlete to fight a fan?
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Can you knock if you buck?
Speaker 4 (14:54):
As?
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Kelvin says, well, could we can? We'll continue that cover
say shit, where's your next?
Speaker 1 (15:02):
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Speaker 3 (15:30):
So the cuck's going in the stands to fight some fans,
are you?
Speaker 5 (15:35):
Am?
Speaker 3 (15:35):
I what gonna go into the stands to fight fans?
Speaker 6 (15:39):
Would you?
Speaker 5 (15:40):
What's on what I'm going in the fans for? If
I see somebody up there messing with my family, messing
with my wife.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
No, no, not that just making up. They throw a
beer at you. They throw a beer at you.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
Man, That's what I'm talking.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Hold on, hold on us.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
Sayre here, mouth listen, listen, Rob. I know what you're
gonna say. And it's easy to be on this side
of it and say, you know what, man, they threw
beer on me or they spit on me. And you
gotta be a bigger man than that to not go.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
In to fan family. Man, You're not going in the
stands to fight fan.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Some drunk guy who threw a beer on you, I'm
shame on him for throwing a nineteen dollar beer on
you more so than the beer getting on you.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
My god, take a shower. Is that the end of
the world.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
No, No, it's not the end of the world, Rob,
But I think it's very easy to forget before you
were a professional, you were a man, and it's very
very difficult when you are raised the way and in
the environment that some of us come from. The money
doesn't change that. Like, you understand that you have to
be a professional, right, I get it, But Rob, it's
(16:46):
very very easy to sit behind a microphone and say,
you know what if somebody throws a beer on you,
and somebody spits in your face or throws food at you,
all you should do is continue walkie, think about go
back to the moulice in the palace. Do you know what, God,
Jermaine O'Neil and all those guys, what started that? What
started the malice in the palace?
Speaker 3 (17:06):
No, I get it.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
The guy threw a beard down, all right, But my
point is a.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
D and you know this.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
They threw a chair in the stands that could have
hit an infil four year old kid, five year old kid.
Speaker 5 (17:20):
That's it now, Okay, now you're talking about something completely different. Okay,
but that's talking about completely different.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
And then when you go into the stands and you're
swinging on people and you don't know or whatever's happening,
you open up yourself.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
The league, the team.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
There's all kinds of ramifications by you.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
I'll tell you what I wish I could be on
with you guys for hours so we can just you
know what, wild.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
One day you're about to say what I am the players,
not the fans.
Speaker 5 (17:52):
You know, It's wild how the player always like the
players have to deal with whatever, it doesn't matter because
the player always has to be the professional and always
have to be the bigger person some of the things,
you know what. I'll give you an example. I can
remember when I was in college and even early on
the league, people saying things to me about my brother
(18:13):
who passed when I was in college. We always we
always have to be the bigger one, you know. And
it comes to a point where, again I understand the
beginning word of professional athlete is professional, but listen, rob
we all have our points, we all have our tipping point,
we all have our boiling points where it's like, look,
(18:35):
I understand I'm professional, but listen right now, I'm about
to risk it all and it's worth it. So I
think it's easy to sit behind a microphone and say
how someone should respond as opposed to being in that
situation and being in that particular time and being forced
to be the bigger person all the time.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Hey, he sounds like he was right through some hands
right now, which I'm with you. Antonio Daniels, our guest.
Let's talk a NBA Finals. We had Game two, which
to me was exactly as scripted. Oklahoma City Thunder were
four and on at that time, coming off of a loss,
and they had won by an average of twenty points.
You almost got that. I think was sixteen was a total.
It wasn't twenty. It was sixteen, and Rob thought they
were gonna win. The Pacers be two and zero going
(19:13):
back to Indiana said they had a chance to win
that game. And now you don't want to say it's
the chest. What are you making the series thus far?
One to one? And how do things shaping up as
we hit towards game three?
Speaker 5 (19:25):
Listen before the game, before the series started, I predicted
the five game series. I predicted the Thunder and five
and I'm not changing my predictions after Game one. It
didn't change my prediction. If you go all the way
back to two thousand and one when Philadelphia played the
Los Angeles Lakers and Allen Iverson went in the Stables
Center and lit LA on fire and they pulled out
Game one, and you know what, they didn't win a
(19:47):
game after that. I can see this series playing out
that same way.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
And this ain't the same team.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
And I think you're totally disrespecting what you've seen from
the war from the Windy from the Windiana Pacers.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
I really do.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
I just and that's cool. And I'm gonna tell you
the difference between the Indiana Pacers from me and the
Oklahoma City Thunder. The difference lies in the defense. Right
to Ree Haliburton, who he's been all the way up
to this point. And I listened to the entire media
day today here Rick Carlisle talk about it, or tore
(20:23):
Tyler Burton talk about it, or her Pascouiacom talk about it.
The Thunder are built different defensively because they have too
many people. You know the songs, you need more people.
They don't have enough. And here's the thing. When you
can go out there with Cason Wallace, who will be
(20:43):
a future All Defensive team player. Alex Caruso, who was
first team on defense before Lou Dort, who's first team
on defense this year, Jay Dubb, who's second team on
defense this year. Say killers Alexander, who you can make
an argument could have been on one of the three
defensive teams and set Hongren their point of attack. Physical
defenders make it tough for Indiana to play with their identity.
(21:07):
That's why it's not disrespect to Indiana. Basically, I'm crediting
the Oklahoma City Thunder for having a defense like we
haven't seen it.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
So if they win another game, what would that be
based on just an off night by The only way
that they could win another game is an off night
by the Thunder.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
No, no, no, no, because they could happen. It can definitely happen.
Like like you look at right now, Terrey Talliburton's averaging
fifteen and a half points a game and two games.
Everybody made a big deal about Game one because he
hit that shot with point three seconds left, but he
didn't play well. He didn't have a good game.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Yeah, But here's my reason is that is I think
that they can play better. They haven't played well. I
think I know, I think they can play better, That's
all I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
And I still think that the Pacers aren't dead.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
They've had an a dynasty, a destiny kind of run
here wherever. In every round they weren't support to win.
In every single round, they weren't supposed to win it.
But everybody thought that Knicks were going to waltz into
the NBA Finals because they're playing the Pacers.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
That's what people thought.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
There's a different drop. You know what the difference between
all three teams that they played in the first round
as opposed to who they're playing now. Rather it was
the Knicks, or it was Cleveland, or if it was
Jonas in the Milwaukee Bucks first round, you know what
all of them had that the Oklahoma City Thunder don't have.
(22:29):
It's somebody you can target, multiple guys you can target.
So let me ask you a question. If you are
Rick Carlisle and Meandana Pacers, who are you targeting for
the Oklahoma City Thunder. We saw what the Thunder did
thenc Edwards. We saw how they made Sny Edwards look
mortal because they have excellent point of attach defenders. Listen,
(22:50):
there was a point in the NBA where shooting was
the most valued commodity. That's dead now. Versatility is versatility
it is in today's NBA. You get you guys who
are three and D, not three or D that can
guard multiple positions like the Thunder half. This is now
the blueprint for the for the NBA moving forward.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Yeah, multiple guys who can do multiple things and don't
want to say in five minutes you can still be
a one off. We'll wait and see.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
I'm not I'm not there in that. They play really
well defensively, I'm not going to take that away from them.
They could win a championship, but we've seen different championships.
This will be seven years in the NBA. I'm not
convinced that this is some string and that people won't
do something or shape. He doesn't get all the calls
that he's been getting because they watched the run to
(23:40):
the championship and they change the way that they call
the player, you know, call fouls for him. I'm just
not convinced that that's where we're gonna be.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
But this year anywhere, well, I know, I'm just looking
at the way it's not just the thunder look at
how Indiana's constructed. Look at how Minnesota's constructed, look at
how New York is constructed.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Boston, here's the.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
Reason that they went out and got Mickelbridges and paid
O Gannaoby with Josh Hard like that King. You want
guys that can guard multiple That whole one two, three,
four five thing is dead. Now you have a you
have a league guard, and you have four or five
guys that you can play at multiple positions, that can
guard multiple positions. That's not just because of the thunder
(24:25):
that's been the thing around the NBA as a whole.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Any shoot. Another example will be Houston as well, a
d thank you, We appreciate you as always man.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
For sure, appreciate you fellas.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Yeah, thank you, Team Knuck. If you buck, he's on
it as well. No, he's not last goal. He's a
middle of the cloth. He is not into that, not
at all. Listen, man, Sometimes people got to get dealt
with Rob eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox and
seven seven on Fox. And I can't believe you're gonna
sit up here acting like you. I think gave you
the perfect scenario.
Speaker 7 (24:54):
I am, I'm a gentleman at all times, distinguished exactly loyal.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Stop it Security, this.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Guy right, Security, I don't have on a navy blue
shirt and pants on what a stripe on them?
Speaker 3 (25:11):
I'm Rob.
Speaker 6 (25:13):
It's below us to dirty our own hands, exactly, Rob.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Even in the gentleman times, they had a duel. Afterwards
someone had to die. That is very good. It's even
worse no answer there Heye seven ninety nine on Fox
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Fox Sports Radio. It is the odd couple. Rob Parker,
kelvin Washington, Thank you for calling in on the trash
talking Tuesdays. Appreciate that. As always, one more time for
your boys. Where you get out of here. By the way, Rob,
me and Rob G happened to be in the break
room and uh you could see you know you and
I kind of started the show. What's all everything's happening
(26:01):
here in Los Angeles, Los Angeles area with the protesting,
the ice raids that are happening, it's starting to become big.
It's you said, we were looking at Chicago, New York.
And you can just tell you know, this is one
of the things that happens with the power of social
media where things pick up faster, you know, so people.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Are seeing what's going on and like, why aren't we
getting involved and why.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
We do young people when young people get they mean
historically it's always the young people been Vietnam War, college
rights and all that.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
They decide that Nick, we don't want this, you know
what I mean, And and it's a it's a lot.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Yeah. So started to see that when we just moments
ago in the break room, starting to see that happening.
So we'll, you know, keep an eye on that. But uh,
before we go, man, just the only other really thing
we didn't touch on today we got the Milwaukee Bucks
now and uh Yannis system conversations and maybe uh they
start to explore even more of a trade with him
trade scenario. He's just trying to mind his own business
(26:57):
on his vacation.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Maybe they're not going to tread and didn't exact rob
G say they'd not or they don't think they're.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Going to make a trade. Yeah, I figure that is
still posturing at this point, just to try to maybe
drum up as much as you can get because I
just think it's a it's okay for there to be
a perfectly amicable split. To me, it's not a four
going conclusion.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Giannest is a different animal because because he had a
chance to get out of there before without.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Even knowing he was gonna win a championship.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
And people chastise him if you remember that, like he
got he lost to Miami and Miami had the space
and the availability to get them robb G wasn't that it?
And everybody's like, you should go to Miami. It'd be
like KD, Like you got lost to a team and
then you go go play for that team and they
already got everything in place, and then you go down
there and win a championship.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
You're in Miami instead of Milwaukee. You know what I mean?
Who would want to.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Be in in Miami instead of Milwaukee?
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Disrespect to Milwaukee. It was dispectful. But I think I
think he has that that Damian Liver. But I also
think there's a point when listen, I've been there, I
think ten years now, ten eleven years, I've given him
more reason to stay there. No, I want to ring
and it could be amicable like, I don't think it
has to be bad, like I have to hate him,
and then I think he doesn't have to hate the organization.
I think it can be just a clean, nice, clean break.
(28:20):
You know what, we had a great time, We had
a great run. Always love when you did that one
little thing, and you know, always want to still love
your family. Don't forget. I'll still send you a happy
merry Christmas note and you know we move on. It
don't have to be bloodmaths, you know what I mean.
I think sometimes you can have a perfect scenario where
and if you're a fan of the Bucks, if you're
a Milwaukee Buck fan, like you actually don't have to
burn his jersey. You know, you don't have to feel
(28:42):
like you were slided in some crazy way because he
gave you his all, blood, sweat and tears. You just mentioned,
turned down other opportunities where he could have left and
gave it. He was different.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Now you burned his jersey because he didn't win the
first time he left that he walked out on the
city where he's from.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
I mean, now, do people burn jerseys robber organization? No,
but no.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
But my point is, if you're a fan seriously, and
you're from Cleveland, stifferent. The guy wasn't born in New
York or LA. And he doesn't want to be in Cleveland.
You're from here, My god, we were lucky to get you.
You're from here. We haven't won a championship since Moby
Dick was a Guppy.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
It would be great. It's a great story if Lebron wins.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
And that's why the championship be won in Cleveland is
so revered and so bad because that that's why people
were so angry.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
And it didn't help the way he did it too.
I agree with that. I mean, he left, It wasn't
It was like, Oh, I'm not gonna leave. I'm gonna leave.
Maybe I leave, I don't know'mae And at the last
twelve hour, I'm going to Miami, So I get the rage. Well,
the reason I bring up the organizations though, is because
Cleveland did nothing for him at all. But Shack played there.
(29:50):
I was about to be the fan. No, you're gonna
be the fan. I'm about to come fight you right now.
Shaq played there. Shaq, Shaq was seventy six years old.
That wasn't even Shack, that was actually Shaquille. That was
like full on Shaquille at that point. That wasn't Shack,
that Drew Gooden. Who else was a great player that
(30:13):
first time person like sixty five games. I don't because
Lebron can do you?
Speaker 4 (30:17):
You know, Shaq was all NBA thirteen the year before
he got to Cleveland. That's right, thank you, Rob. I'm
just saying that everybody always tried to make it like
Shaq play. He got hurt and that didn't help. He was,
did Shaq?
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Yeah? He was a whole solid is the perfect frame
he was with the Lakers. No, he was buff and
huge with the Lakers. He was four himself. He was
four hundred pounds pounds. I'm talking about in shape. Did
you the man was in shape with the yoker.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
In shape is loup in shape?
Speaker 3 (30:49):
What you look like? Get buckets anytime. I can't believe
you disrespected Shack like they acting like Shaq was. That
was That was the worst version. From then on, Shaq
was on seven different teams.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
He wants shocked, he want to Shacky, got true goodness
Shack because.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Shaq left there and went to Miami and then he
went no reverse, Rob stopping, stop, don't play with me
right now, I'm gonna beat all of y'all up. You
I was trying to slip that my body. The Jason
Smith Show with Mike Harmon is coming up next.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
I never miss your radio show.
Speaker 6 (31:17):
I never hear it, so I never miss it.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
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