June 20, 2025 • 39 mins
Rob and Kelvin have all the fallout from last night’s Dodger/Padres brawl. Are the Dodgers being babies about Ohtani getting hit? VSiN Networks Jonathan Von Tobel joins the guys to talk all things NBA Finals. Plus, we got last call!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
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it Tobal? Yes, Von Tobo from Visin, the senior NBA
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analyst and the host of Primetime on Visin out There
based in Vegas. Also Last Call, which is a cool
last call, your chance to call in and join us.
But also you know Sammy Social return to Chicago to
Wrigley Field, and you know it went through a lot,
didn't get into the Hall of Fame, even though he
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had over six hundred home runs and all that and
Milian or whatever.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
When you hear the reception he got.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
I bet you he had to be because he hadn't
been there in over twenty years.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
It's crazy. Yeah, it wasn't that amazing. We gotta play it.
There's a whole lot of thoughts that I have about
that in just that scenario as a whole. You know,
he gave those people and we get caught off. Oh
you know, no, that was saving Okay, we'll save it.
We'll get because I think that's a great conversation you had.
But I know where you were going with that, you
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know what I mean? And I think that was what
was understood today, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
What is not understood is why the Dodgers are big
babies when it comes to show.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Hey, old Tony get by a pitch. What did you
just say to me? You heard me? Hold on, let
me turn my hat around because it you're talking crazy? Right?
Go ahead? What you say to me? Now? They keep hitting? Uh,
Fernando tattiss I heard Dan Patrick.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
He's been hit twenty five times in his career, six
times by the Dodgers. All right, man, no, so Tattee
says the man up. But Dave Roberts is out there.
He telling the other manager he's gonna kick his be high.
He had a flashback he was playing with the Red
Sox woman and there he said, quote, I'll beat your
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ass unquote.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Can I say it on the air? I say that.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
I want to make sure. Yeah, just by the way,
I mean what he right? Dave Roberts all bent out
of shape. Now, don't hit my show. Hey, you know,
don't hit my show. Hey, I understand he got to
do that. He don't want to call it an international incident,
but I hate to break it to your show.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Hey, we've been hit.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Twenty four times going into last night, and I think
twenty four times.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
In eight years. That ain't like outrageous that that's about.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Right, especially when you're doing so much damage with the bat.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Come on, man, no head on ing. I'm against head
on it.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Am I against pitching guys close inside, back off my plate,
make you move your feet, make you feel uncomfortable.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yes, I used to pitch, not very well, but I
used to pitch.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
You gotta make people move their feet, You gotta move
people back.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
You can't make people dig in where they know this
guy ain't throwing at me.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
So I could just go, you know, reach across the
plate and get one. You can't do that if I
might get one in here, so you might be a
little reserve.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
You have a theory on why I think we don't
see that more would specifically Show Hey. Well two things. One,
I don't think we see it as much as period
a game, but the huge But you don't think the
Dodgers are being babies about Show. Hey, I'm gonna give
you that in one second. I think also Show is
just such a nice guy that I just think in
the back of people's head get the business too. I
think that happens ten years in prior for sure, meaning
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like if we go like ten years and then you
go back to the beginning of baseball, the absolute nice
men who you are. I'm trying to stay and starting
pitcher in this league because that's a hard position to
come by, and I gotta I gotta scare you off.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
In the days of Bob Gibson, one all pitcher, Don Drysdale,
no guy for the Dodgers.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
If somebody hit a home run, you better you show.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
You better not do anything, because it ain't even gonna
I ain't even gonna get you your teammate, who's coming up.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Next, gonna get one in the rip? Boy, thanks a lot. Yeah,
don't do that. Don't do that. So so that's why
I think we don't see this much. I think that
era has changed. I mean, it's the same thing, Rod.
If a pitcher throws past eighty some nights, you're like, wow,
he threw more than eighty pitches. It's just a different area.
If a pitcher goes past six seven in, you're like,
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whoa complete game? What? Whereas that was commonplace. So I
just think the game has changed. I think people's attentions,
their intentions teams, and I think hitting guys is not
necessarily a part of it, or pitching inside and scaring
guys off like they used to. So I think that's
why show hate doesn't get as much as you would think.
If you just fail from Mars and I told you,
look how great this player you is, he must be
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getting hit a lot. Now, specifically to the question of
being babies, I think what you're seeing from the Dodgers
is a bit of man, stop being mad that we've
beat y'all. Stop being mad that we're better than y'all.
Stop being mad that we kind of been big brother
to you and just play ball, and I think that's
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what you're getting from the Dodgers. And then obviously Dave
Roberts has to protect his shiny toy in show Hail Tany.
He's got to speak up, he's got to step up,
and it's for show hate to get hit again. Was
it last night? Right? I think that becomes where he's
like concerned about danger. Now I'll get in baseball, so
long you mess around, get hit, you could be out
a month and still be fine in the season. But
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I think he's trying to protect this player because how dang,
how much more can there be? How dangerous will this be?
What's the end of this? This wasn't a one for
one and then we move on. This kept going, Guys
getting suspended, benches are clearing, and so I think Dave
Roberts is trying to set the tone like a right,
I get it, but enough is enough? More So, he
played back in the day, he played in this era.
He knows about that. But I think he's trying to
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protect his best player and kind of set the tone
to bring it down a little bit. But show Hey
was the one who was like y'all relax. I'm good,
don't don't clear the benches. I'm good, don't even worry
about it. But that's when the game.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
And that's what I'm saying, Like I do get it that.
Of course, you don't want your players to get hurt.
You want to make sure you want to. But people
get people get hitting baseball, and you're making it like
I could see if they hit show hey every you know,
I don't know four games in a row or some
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sort of pattern or you really believe it, but.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
He's got to be hit. He's got to be moved back.
It just can't. You can't put up those kind of numbers.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
And not ever have to fear that pitch could be
inside on you or something. And I just think the
Dodgers have definitely overreacted a little bit because of their guy,
and I get it. I think that they're making a
big deal. All you got to own it if you're
going to be throwing at him, you know, because that
was the Dave Bobbins rus and now he's threatening to
beat the other manager's ass.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Look at him. I like it. I like all of it. Baseball.
Guess who loves it? Baseball? Guess who? Me? And you
talked about because I just joined the show right in
the middle of the postseason Baseball love or right before
it started, but Baseball loved having one of the best
seasons ratings and again, I don't want to overly beat
people up with numbers, ratings, just the juice of it all.
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We talked about that yesterday the NBA Finals, like it's
been really but something's not quite there, you know what
I mean. If this was the Warriors, caves and games, everybody,
your phone's blowing up. This has been the craziest Yo.
We don't get that. Still, I'm not getting any text
like I mean, you got your basketball buddy, if this
were if this were Boston and Celtics, it was at
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twenty ten games, man, what I can't believe make Kobe
should have shot. He's old for this for now. I got.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
I got guys too, who are big basketball fans in
New York and they're Knick fans.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
And just tuned out.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
And you know, right after the Knicks guy eliminated, Like
it's a group text that we had going for nothing.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Nothing, So I bring up they only bringing that up
to talk about the ratings in baseball, even if the
raidings weren't the greatest last season. It was just great matchups.
You know, you had the the you finally got ultimately
you got the Yankees Dodgers first time since eighty one.
But we saw so many good matchups. So you saw
the Padres and the Dodgers, and you thought Padres finally
gonna overcome they didn't. You had the the Tigers coming
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out of nowhere. I mean, we just had so many
good matchups. So I think this plays a big role
in that this is a heated rivalry. The Padres are this.
You know, they're treating the Dodgers as they really want
to treat themselves. They're upset at themselves that they let
last season postseason.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
So if you remember when they went up three three one,
they blew the Dodgers out at Dodgers Stadium and then
they were going home to San Diego, everybody thought this series,
oh are you kidding?
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Like I thought there was no shot. And I don't
think they've gotten over that. And I think there's, like
I said, the Big Brother, you know that they feeling like, man,
I'm so sick of Big Brother, you know, And I
think they're the the Napoleon syndrome they're tired of being
a little brother. We've had talented teams, we've had really
good teams. We've been up in series, We've had some
good regular season series against them. Why can't we overdo it?
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And I think they're freaking out at the Dodgers when
really they're supposed to be turning that mirror and freaking
out of themselves. And this isn't new.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Their rivalry is like we talked about the Dodger, I
mean the Yankees and Red Sox and rivalry.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
This is the Giant, but this one is hot.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
This is definitely hot and now real chippy when they're
hitting people. But where are you on baseball? And then
this is where we want to hear from you. Is
it okay to hit people? I'm not headhunting. Well, let
us make that very clear. We do not agree on
anybody throwing the ball up at anybody's head or anything
like that. That I will never be into that he
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needs somebody on the backside or die whatever, you know
what I mean and saying hey, yeah, well we'll put
you on, but we'll let you feel it when we
put you on.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Is that okay? Or have we gone soft on everything?
Speaker 1 (10:21):
And nobody can be hit, nobody can be pitched too close. Everybody, Oh, well,
he's a nice guy. We don't want to bother him
or the league. We can't have show Hey getting injured.
We can't have Judge getting injured like that. You can't
play like that. I understand from the league standpoint, they
don't want those guys to be hurt. Right, Remember Aaron
Judge got hurt when he stubbed his toe. You remember
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that he stubbed his toe on the fence and missed
forty games or whatever it was. So I just think
that we've softened the game a little bit, and now
when guys get hit, it's a big deal.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
I think it's legislation. Is they're starting to legislate it
out the game where it becomes like an NBA a
hard five where we all go, that's a common that's
a common way. We gotta watch twenty minutes to review it.
And I think the NBA got so they were like,
we're gonna go so far away from the eighties nineties
basketball that they start look at everything and only reacted
to everything. It's getting to where again, that's why I said,
(11:21):
you can start to see an evolution where it's like that,
it's not as heavy or prevalent in the game anymore.
They're starting to get away from that. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven
nine nine six sixty three sixty nine. Where are you show, hey, Judge?
Off limits? Is it okay to hit batters even if
it's intentional?
Speaker 2 (11:41):
You know what I mean? Like? Is it okay to
hit batters?
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Pitch inside close or you like baseball the way it
is now where that usually is taboo. And that's why
guys get worked up when they are pitched close or
they are hit because they're so not used to being
hit anymore.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
I don't think people want to put them on base.
I don't want to put so hit on base. It
ain't worth it the more. Too analytical now, all right?
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can live without your phone? No, five hours? You missed Prince.
We got to see Prince in his house. He floated
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about getting hit by pitch? Is something we saw a
bunch between his Dodgers and Pacers, Dodgers and Pacers, Dodgers
(13:38):
and Padre series, Dave Robbers rated scrap show hel Tonic
to keep his tatiste. They say he won an oscar.
They said it was a change up in off speed
pitch and he fell out. It didn't move for like
seven minutes. He's putting extra sauce on it, like I
tell my daughters when they put a little extra on it,
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is that a cake? Should people be able to hit
by a pitch? Are you over? It is a thing
of the pastor you say it's part of the game.
Eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox? Who we got?
Speaker 1 (14:06):
How about Jola in Dallas? You're on the odd couple
of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Jola?
Speaker 2 (14:11):
How are you? What's up?
Speaker 6 (14:13):
Hey?
Speaker 7 (14:13):
Kelvin?
Speaker 2 (14:13):
How you doing Hey?
Speaker 7 (14:15):
I'm doing good? Nah? Hey man, y'all know I had
to call in.
Speaker 8 (14:18):
Hey, I felt like super ro see that.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
You remember that.
Speaker 7 (14:20):
Guy but the other day when when I jumped on
Calvin the other day by not giving stats and stuff
about baseball, jumped on you off. Nice, No, listen, I'm gonna.
Speaker 9 (14:30):
Tell you this is good for the game.
Speaker 7 (14:31):
Hey, litten, Remember I'm talking about not giving a stat.
I looked up a stat just now. Aaron Judge has
only been hit by a hitch three times. I'm not
trying to hear it.
Speaker 8 (14:40):
Hey, was it only three?
Speaker 7 (14:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (14:43):
This whole season?
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Okay, I'm sorry, I thought you did. I was like,
hold up.
Speaker 7 (14:47):
Thirty six times in his whole career. So we're trying
to push old Connie off the off the mountain.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
We gotta do.
Speaker 7 (14:53):
I'm off the you know, batter's boxes.
Speaker 9 (14:54):
We just said to Aaron Judge.
Speaker 7 (14:56):
You know what I'm saying. You know what we gotta Hey,
I get it.
Speaker 10 (14:59):
I love it.
Speaker 7 (14:59):
I love the baseball. You know we watch it. But hey,
I'm not trying to I've been to plenty of baseball stadiums. Man,
I've seen Manny Machado is one of my favorite or
third basem Hey, I'm.
Speaker 8 (15:10):
Gonna tell you, we just gotta Hey, I love it.
Speaker 7 (15:13):
We got to keep it going. After they lost the
profarm though San Diego. Yeah, yeah, come back, there's no
way after that catch he made. That's one of the
cleanest catches.
Speaker 8 (15:22):
I've ever seen.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Yeah, he got suspended too, But let me hey, he
did what do you do for the juice? He got
suspended for the juice?
Speaker 7 (15:29):
Hey, and I'm not even a I mean, we'll talk
about that another day. Let me get Hey, this basketball thing, Bailey,
he's tripping.
Speaker 9 (15:38):
He better get it together.
Speaker 11 (15:39):
He's bad.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
I don't know what you got. People want to interviews
and all that. Man, thank you for the appreciate the call.
They listen. We just said it, Aaron, Josh can get
some of this smoke too. You here sitting hitting almost
back on four hundred and got all these home runs.
You can get some of this inside. He too, Judge,
I'm not by the way. You got to get another
You got another hit as we speak, in a home
run earlier and he just can't see was a single
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or does it?
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Judge biblehead night tonight? And is it kershaw knight too tonight?
What is it? Giving a goodness?
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Chris in California, you're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
What's up, Chris?
Speaker 11 (16:14):
Yes, sir, I grew up going to Dodger games, but
I'm a lifelong time to go pasere fame. So old
boy right now is talking about how Parker has went
after Otani right right, and that was the wrong thing, right, Yes,
what the hell are the Dodgers allowed to target our
best player but we can't hit back right now? Double standard?
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That's hypocritical.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
I agree, And and Tattoos is a guy who's been
been hit a lot by the Dodgers.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Did he get up yet? Because he's still he's and when.
Speaker 11 (16:49):
The managers came out, who got physicals Dave Roberts.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Yeah, you're sounding.
Speaker 9 (16:54):
Like a literal You're like a liberal cry baby right now,
thank you, buddy.
Speaker 11 (17:01):
We want to target our best player and we can't retell.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Come on, it's got to be both.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
And that's where players take for the call, normally police
to get him.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Though, because the Pie has felt like it was intentional.
His that where this all started was that the first
thing to set this off. See, that's what it is.
So I get his point, like, right, if you're gonna
throw a mine, throw jorys And that's the whole point.
But I think the Dodgers felt like you guys initiated,
you started it, and it goes back again to the
postseason when you had Manny Machado, Remember throwing it at
them on the dug out, like, oh my bad, I
didn't mean to throw the ball towards there. So I
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just think there's definitely beef in the streets.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Another Chris from Lodi, California.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
You're on they couple of Fox sportuating what's up? Chris?
Speaker 12 (17:40):
What's on? Fellas?
Speaker 2 (17:41):
How you?
Speaker 7 (17:43):
So?
Speaker 12 (17:44):
Yeah, I think it's great for the game. I mean,
it's in baseball, it's the only thing you have to retaliate.
I mean you I always feel like the first one
usually might be different with the Dodgers went once the
rivalry is built up for once there's you know, built up,
you know, animosity towards each other. But I felt like
even the other night, I felt like the first plunk
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was you know, it was unintentional, but then yeah, that's
what happens, it doesn't I felt.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Like his was intentional, and that's what kind of set
this whole thing off. Andy Pie has said, Uh, no,
I know that was intentional. We were talking and he
said some stuff and then then he got plum. Yeah,
so that kind of to me set the tone.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Of course, you like it in the game, you're you're
you know, like the idea that you police it if
guys you know that. That's why I remember there was
some pictures who if they hit batters, their teammates would
be mad at them because they don't have to get.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Up before I have to deal with.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
We don't have to get on a play and the
old days pictures used to have to get up to
so you better.
Speaker 12 (18:39):
Be can I think I think that can change. I
think that can change the energy of the team too.
I mean, like, I think it's good because I mean,
teams are you people are gonna be looking into the
next doger Padre games, not even for for the game itself,
just because of that. I think it's great for baseball
period and the story as long as they're not throwing
ahead right, no head on. I don't even like the
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ankles because y'all, I don't want to bone. I don't
want to lose somebody, you know.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
But I think it's the game they came for. The
Mike Tyson's no doubt he was walking around with the
cheeks out when he fight Jake Paul. What was he
doing m J.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
And new Orland joined the couple. Look at m J
joining in on the baseball I love this.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Whoa now not no, sorry, sorry sir, that what's happening?
Speaker 8 (19:28):
What's good?
Speaker 1 (19:29):
What?
Speaker 8 (19:29):
What's good?
Speaker 2 (19:31):
You with this? You with this getting hit by pitchers?
Speaker 8 (19:35):
I'm not with this that this was my mom's favorite
team and that's my favorite team. No, I'm not with this.
I know it's intimidation in the game, but no, I
don't want to see uh Tiza out for you know,
out far with specific time whatever. I don't want to
see a Tony out and I don't think baseball wants
to see these guys out. So no, that intimidation. I
(19:56):
think that day is over. Robbed. I know you've been
you know, in the sports and right eighty seven, Yeah, gave.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
You eighty I thought, you know, in nineteen seventy, that's right,
thank you. I was in high school. I mean, yeah, seventies.
Speaker 8 (20:09):
Since you you policed it out of football, you policed
it out of basketball. You do the same thing in baseball.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
That That is where I agree with you, Jay, That's
why I brought up basketball in the eighties nineties. Rough
time you could close line of guy and be just
a regular file. And now they go to the board,
I mean the review for any and everything. I think
that's what the NBA and I think baseball. I think
the analytics have gotten into baseball and they're like, is
it worth it? It's even worth it.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Let's squeeze one last one in Dave in Oregon, you're
on the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
What's up, Dave?
Speaker 6 (20:37):
Hey fell it? Yeah, played that ball way through college.
The one thing you can say is if a guy
gets plunked the inning of your pitcher, right and you're
next up, next inning, you better hope he doesn't hate
you in the head because now we're throwing hands right.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
No, no head on it, no head on. We don't
want that. We don't want you to get hit his face.
You go bad.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
But but but definitely, Uh, the idea of retaliation is
out there and we know that.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Thanks Dave, appreciate The best part about all this is
we go to break here and get ready for Jonathan
von Tobel. Is how you're with all this. But when
a fan throws us to nothing to do with the game,
throws a beer at you and popcorn, you're can you
please go get security. But you want somebody to throw
a ball one hundred miles an hour, somebody. I can't
keep up with you, Rob Park. It's just a part
of the game.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
No.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
The guy right there with the striped shirt, can you
go get what? He throw a through entire water bottle
at me. I told get up. If he's doing popcorn,
my mouth is open. That's all I want you to do.
Keep trying to stop you from saying that. Ry. You
just keep saying it. Jonathan too. On the other side.
Right now, were you busy? I think he was busy, Jonathan,
but right now Steve.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
Major League Baseball suspended Padres closer Robert Suarez three games
and find him because it said he intentionally hit Showing
Tani with a pitch late in the last night's game.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
He will appeal.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
The two managers from last night each get one game
suspensions that have to be served tonight. Each fine. That's
Mike Shield, the Padres, Dave Roberts and the Dodgers. As
for Fernando Testeast Junior, who was hit again on the hand,
this time last night, no fractures according to imaging, and
he is in the lineup for the Padres, Tonight, Texas
has just closed out a six to two victory at Pittsburgh.
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The win to Jacob de gromp six innings of work
and seven strikeouts. Today a game in Seattle at Chicago,
and it wound up a victory for the visiting side
nine to four. Two home runs for Cal Rawley, a catcher,
ladies and gentlemen. And this we're not even to July here.
A catcher has twenty nine home runs this season. That
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is the all time record for a catcher before All
Star Break. Orioles are tied three to three at the Yankees.
In the top of the seventh inning. Aaron Judge is
three for three with a walk that Inclin Lootes his
twenty seventh home run. It's the Rays eight three over
Detroit only top of the fifth inning because there was
a rain delay at the start. The White Sox lead
now seven to one. In the ninth. At Toronto, Marlins
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lead the Braves six to one in the eighth. The
Mets have tied it up at Philadelphia two to two,
top of the seventh. Cardinals leads six to one over
the Reds in the top of the eight. Scottie Scheffler
is tied for the lead at the Travelers as is
Justin Thomas, who shot a second round sixty four. Jason
Days one shot back in Connecticut. US men's soccer plays
against Sunday on Fox TV against Haiti, and the next
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IndyCar Race is on Fox Sunday at Roade America in Wisconsin.
The best of three finals of the College World Series
starts Saturday. Three WNBA games tonight. NBA Finals Game seven
will be Sunday. The NBA Draft starts on Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Back to you, Steve, have a great night, have a
great weekend. Thank you. All right, it's the hot coup
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It's here right now. Join inst to Jonathan von Tobel Vson,
senior NBA analysts, host a prime time on vs in Jonathan,
What's up? How you doing? I told you we would
be here. I told you a game seven.
Speaker 6 (24:21):
Oh I'm sorry, Hey, no, I'll tell you this.
Speaker 9 (24:24):
I'm more surprised than I just learned it was summer
today because it's one hundred and eight degrees out here
at Las Vegas.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Yeah, officially officially eight My good not Yeah. Well, shoot,
the dagg On Pacers were hot last night. What happened?
If you're the Thunder? Were they nervous where they shook it?
What was that?
Speaker 13 (24:42):
Yeah? I don't know.
Speaker 9 (24:43):
It's kind of weird because we were talking about this
on the show today, Like what's annoying about the Thunder
and the way this series has gone is it's predictable
after the fact. You know what I mean is like
in the postseason they've been awful on the road and
then they show up again and they're off on the
road right like they're shooting disappears away from home and
did again in that game.
Speaker 7 (25:01):
I thought.
Speaker 9 (25:01):
The weirdest part about that, though, is how bad shake goes.
Alexander played like that was the worst game of his season.
I think the fact that he couldn't handle double teams,
kept turning the ball over. It was various, not lack
of days going defensive times as well. I don't think
it's a surprise that the Pacers won, considering that I've
underestimated them a lot of people have, and how well
they've played at home. But the degree to which they won,
(25:22):
how bad Shay looked, and how embarrassing that looked. For okay,
see that the degree to which they lost was very surprising.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
And here, Jonathan, I mean, the Pacers are a team
of destiny. They underdog in every round. They won unbelievable
games this year. They they their quote unquote best player,
star player. And Halliburnon gets hurt, right, Yeah, he has
no field goals in game five, only plays twenty three minutes.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
You know, I'm like, what do you have? Fourteen? You
know what I mean? He didn't turn in like he just.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Got well and put up a forty piece and it
was a struggle won and somehow play the next game.
He got the rest they got. They got a victory,
an easy victory in game six. And to me, the
pressures now on the young thunder playing at home, you
know what I mean, when the crowd could turn on
(26:17):
you as soon as things go bad.
Speaker 9 (26:20):
I would totally agree with mean, Look, you're you're the
team that was at one point, right, was pushing for
a historic season when you're talking about like a fewest
amount of losses or at least one of the teams
that have the fewest amount of losses, running for a
postseason or for a final victory, Like this team was
chasing history at one point, and now all of a sudden,
here you are with a Game seven on your home
floor and you've been essentially outplayed for I think most
(26:42):
of this series, like one of the victories you needed
in Indiana, you needed to set the Pacers to melt
down down to the pressure Game four, So I would
agree with you, like, pressure wise, this would be one
of the like all time egg on the face moments
for a Thunder team that I think had a lot
in front of them, Like and they're young, and I
would assume that they're gonna come back. But the second
if they go out there and they started, they to
(27:03):
build a lead. But if the Pacers start to come back,
I mean, I don't know how you guys don't go
back to Game five when they cut it down to
two in that second half, I think they felt that,
I think we all felt that, like, oh boy, like
are they really going to cough.
Speaker 11 (27:14):
This up here.
Speaker 9 (27:15):
It's not like they blew a mountain Game five. So
I'm with you, and I think if we're talking about
just pure pressure, there's no question that OKAC is gonna
have a ton on their play. And if they ever
start to like let go of the rope just a
little bit, they're really going to start to tighten up.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
I think on Sunday and Jonathan, here's the other thing, too,
is the big talk all year was they can't win.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
They're too young, Like they don't have the experience.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
They haven't gone through the getting there, getting closed and
losing like like the Pacers. You could at least look
at Eastern Conference finals last year, you know what I mean,
like the progression.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
And they got some older players, a little older older.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
No, Siakams won a championship already. That that's and so
I really feel like Indiana to me, they can't go
in there tight.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
No one expected them to win.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
They've been what today seven eight nine point underdogs every game.
Speaker 9 (28:04):
Yeah, and I think the point about Tiakam is the
most important, Like every time for this series, I've kind
of brought him up. I don't think there's any question
to this point. Right now. If they win on Sunday,
I think he's their MVP. Yep, he's been brilliant. He
looks like to your point, like he's not he's not
scared by the moment. He has been mister consistent. Outside
of Game two, the guy just knows exactly where to be.
(28:26):
He's taken advantage of all those smaller matchups. Like that's
been the best part about watching him. If there's a
guard on him, he's gonna go down low, He's going
to take him to the basket. He's gonna do what
he needs to do. He's gonna defend what he needs
to do. And the point about just the experience and
him having a ring and being in those moments and
being part of game seven, not in the finals, but
in some of those series. I believe that Philly game
right with Kawhi Leonard and the bounce shot, that was
(28:47):
a Game seven. So like that's the whole run that
he has been on. I think it looks like he
has been very ready for the moment.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Here's the thing though, By the way, Jonathan von Tobel
joining US vs senior NBA analyst hosts a prime time
on VCIN I keep telling this to Rob. It finally
broke when you had the Pacers finally lose to in
a row because they had been five and zer at
that point in time after a loss. You have the
Thunder who were six and after loss this time, So
are they do they go seven and oh now after
a loss and just do exactly kind of as you said,
(29:15):
it's kind of sort of been predictable. And also does
s SGA need to do something about those other acadyms
the MVP and show you this is why I'm the MVP.
Speaker 9 (29:27):
Yeah, I would say so, especially after that last game
like that was you know, Shay I think has been
pretty good. I don't know how you guys felt like
even go back to game one, even though he dropped
over thirty points in Game one, I even like you
look at that game and you're like, yeah, you know,
there's a couple of times in that one where like
shaking of Siaka, he let him blow by him for
a key offensive rebound. At one point in Game one,
he got blown by Tyger's Holiburton a couple times in
that first game. Like there's been moments throughout the series
(29:48):
where the scoring has been there for Shay, but the
little things. You're watching him, You're like, all right, like
come on, man, Like we understand you have home court,
we understand you have confidence, but you got to start
to show I think, some consistency and so bounce back
from that last game, Like you've got to be able
to show something. I don't think there's a universe in
which they win this game and he doesn't win MVP
like Finals MVP. But it is one of those things where, look,
(30:10):
if you're going to be anointed the MVP of the
regular season, if you're going to take it from Jokich,
who had a career year despite the fact that he
has won multiple MVPs, and you're gonna be deemed like,
you know, the next coming maybe face of the league
type guy. This is one of the moments where you
have to show up fair or not.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
And if the Pacers win, I don't know, do we
go back.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
We talk about it the Dallas Mavericks in twenty eleven,
the Pistons of two thousand and four. It would be
on that scale and maybe even bigger. Where where are
you as far as like an unexpected championship? Because I
think those two are the two that people look at,
you know, over the last twenty or something years.
Speaker 9 (30:50):
Oh yeah, I mean, especially if you look at it
from like the odds perspective, right where they were approaching
triple digits before the season started. It was deep into
the beginning of the regular season where there was not
much expected for this team. So we're talking about it
from the like an odds standpoint, this would be one
of the more unlikely champions in the NBA that we
have seen in a very long time. And it's like,
I even think if they lose this, we should remember
(31:10):
this run for a while, just given the clutch nature
of what Halliburton has done. But to your you know,
but to your point of not only just where the
preseason odds were the expectations, but again invoking the fact
that many people like myself really thought this Thunder team
was very special and they still can be. But if
they can pull this off and make this improbable run
and then cap it off with a Game seven victory
(31:32):
at home, what just the fifth one we've just urged
me on the road to the fifth Game seven road
ups that we've seen in the NBA Finals, Like that
would be something that is insanely special, and I think
that it should be a run remembered for a long time.
If they were able to win this thing on it.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
But let me say, yeah, if they lose, okay, see
I think people will I just wonder how to look
at this like was it were they were really that
good where they you know, because they were such overwhelming
favorites where you go, maybe we were right like all
the people who just didn't buy in for the usha
(32:07):
Lakers go on, you know what I mean? Like remember
that right, a lot of people were picking the Lakers
all lose in the way, you know.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
I mean, who's in the way? Really? You know, they've
never had this kind of run.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Why can't Lebron and uh Luca you know win if
they play well or whatever?
Speaker 11 (32:24):
Well, I mean I.
Speaker 9 (32:25):
Would take it a step further, and I thought, what
I think is gonna be interesting is, you know, if
they lose this series, and even if they win it,
I think this should be part of the conversation. But
if they lose this series, if you're Sam Presty in
this front office, are you not looking around and going
all right, you know we have the assets. Do you
not call Milwaukee? Do you not start to try to
maybe go look like we have a good roster, but
we have a ton of assets and we don't have
(32:45):
to dig into our core a ton to go see
if you will get Janis on to the cupo to
push you over the edge, because like, you're a team
that is very good, but clearly you're not as good
as maybe a lot of us expected them to be.
And they're flaws here, But pairing a Shay Gildes Alexander
type with the Janis on to the cumpo and really
and just to make your legacy of the Western Conference
and be an absolute monster, I think maybe those conversations
(33:05):
have to take up a little bit more, especially if
they lose this game to Indiana.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Jonathan, if you don't pump your breaks, Jonathan, they're gonna
be like we got all the way back here, and
I think the story will be we said, man, maybe
we all and Rob and I have admitted maybe we
all slept on Indiana who had been like forty.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Five And Jonathan, Jonathan, you are right because Okase was
overwhelming favorite. This is not like they just and that
is with Indiana playing well, being a number two team
since January, people still looked at them.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
And were like not and a half point underdogs. Man,
they beat Cleveland, they beat the I know, and they
still and it was still not an app That's my point.
We're all gonna go with Dang, we just kept sleeping
on Indiana the whole time. Jonathan were against it, man,
But go ahead.
Speaker 9 (33:53):
No, I was gonna say, I think you're right, Like
I don't think that I'm even guilty of it. Where
Like you come out of these games and like the
narrative is like, hey, you know, the thunderstunk on the road,
or hey you know the Thunder didn't do this, or
OKAC didn't do that, when the reality should be like,
look like I thought we Carl had a good defensive
game plan against Oka see the other night, right like
they were doubling Shay and they were doing it at
the right time. They started picking him up later down
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the floor as opposed to really early when they were
doing it throughout the series. It changed the way they
defended him and it really threw him for a whirl.
So I'm guilty of it.
Speaker 10 (34:21):
We should be.
Speaker 9 (34:22):
Talking about that. But at the same time, I mean,
what was the point of getting all them picks if
you're not going to start using them? She spop topin
should go get rid of Holme Grin and let's go
get Giannis and get this thing going.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Just ody and get rid of chatter picks. All right,
thanks a lot, Johnny and Los Angeles rams has gone on.
All right, John at the Man, I have a great one.
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Who we got about Dion in Texas?
Speaker 1 (36:14):
You're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio and you
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Speaker 10 (36:20):
Hey, what's going on? Fellas? Hey listen to the shaw.
We hadn't been to get in fantastic. Hey, I'm not
thinking to catch your guests, the last guest that was on.
But one thing I want to say. He mentioned the
face of the league. And one thing I just kind
of when MJ retired, This feels like that moment where
we had you had Kim Duncan, you had Shock, you
(36:41):
had Alan I Carter, then you had uh, you had Cobe.
Toward the end, I think we I can definitely say
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league right now. We just got to see we might
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so on the last call. Hey Kate, Kate Man, I
(37:02):
want to give you props. On Monday, I think you
were you were talking about Lebron's podcast, and I like
how what you said. I vividly remember when Kevin Durant
getting traded to not traded, going to the Gold to
State Warriors, me and my son. The first thing we
said is the ring culture conversation that the media have
just flooded us with. We stopped talking about how great
(37:25):
players are and then we just went the ring culture.
And so I think that's why I think Lebron was
spot on in his comments. And that's why Kevin Durant.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Now he's getting killed by everybody except for you too,
because because he doesn't have to he didn't, He didn't
you could have a conversation, so what you don't have
to follow along and and the perfect example is Joannis
Joanna's did not follow along with that. Yannas said, I'm
staying in more walking.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
No, No, it's not he is not. As I want
to get to this, Yeah, argu about it later, I'll
call you interrupt your trip. All right, all right, this
is Sammy Sosa twenty years twenty last time, twenty one
years he'd been to Wrigular Field. Let's hear how his
welcome went.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Making his Riturn Wriggling feel for the first time in
twenty one years. Please welcome back comes legend.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Sammy so same, I said, pressed, I had to feel good?
Are you kidding me? You want to cry it if
you're him in that moment, you don't know what you know.
Twenty one year is a long time. You don't know
if it's you know, people are gonna jeer, you cheer
you what and to get that. And I think it's
(38:43):
because rob time heals all wounds. And also I think
a lot of people realize he and Mark McGuire saved
baseball and base was going they did, they did say baseball,
Baseball knew what was going on. Don't don't scapegoat these guys, y'all.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Don't use two or three guys and just act like
it's all of them. And the fans just showed you
like they don't have any animosity like the game might
have towards them. And they remember those great summer nights
being at Wrigley Feel and watching Sammy social Doer's thing.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
You don't forget those. No, he was saving part of
saving baseball, chasing the numbers, chasing sixty home runs and
all that good stuff. And I just think people remember that,
and I think again time I was, well, I'll give
you an Derek Jeter. I mean, Alex Rodriguez. See these
two guys co Trey Turner had to me they weren't
him been there Alex Rodriguez. Pull love now Minnesota games
(39:34):
and show him at Timberwolves. He's doing all the Fox stuff,
you know what I mean, Like time he was on
Fox in ESPN at the same time exactly. So I
think that's what it is. Have a great have a
great trip. Yeah, Joing the first day of summer, all
your cities. I'm checking all your kids in these different cities.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
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I never hear it, so I never miss it. Did
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(01:12):
had over six hundred home runs and all that and
Milian or whatever.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
When you hear the reception he got.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
I bet you he had to be because he hadn't
been there in over twenty years.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
It's crazy. Yeah, it wasn't that amazing. We gotta play it.
There's a whole lot of thoughts that I have about
that in just that scenario as a whole. You know,
he gave those people and we get caught off. Oh
you know, no, that was saving Okay, we'll save it.
We'll get because I think that's a great conversation you had.
But I know where you were going with that, you
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know what I mean? And I think that was what
was understood today, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
What is not understood is why the Dodgers are big
babies when it comes to show.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Hey, old Tony get by a pitch. What did you
just say to me? You heard me? Hold on, let
me turn my hat around because it you're talking crazy? Right?
Go ahead? What you say to me? Now? They keep hitting? Uh,
Fernando tattiss I heard Dan Patrick.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
He's been hit twenty five times in his career, six
times by the Dodgers. All right, man, no, so Tattee
says the man up. But Dave Roberts is out there.
He telling the other manager he's gonna kick his be high.
He had a flashback he was playing with the Red
Sox woman and there he said, quote, I'll beat your
(02:27):
ass unquote.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Can I say it on the air? I say that.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
I want to make sure. Yeah, just by the way,
I mean what he right? Dave Roberts all bent out
of shape. Now, don't hit my show. Hey, you know,
don't hit my show. Hey, I understand he got to
do that. He don't want to call it an international incident,
but I hate to break it to your show.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Hey, we've been hit.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Twenty four times going into last night, and I think
twenty four times.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
In eight years. That ain't like outrageous that that's about.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Right, especially when you're doing so much damage with the bat.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Come on, man, no head on ing. I'm against head
on it.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Am I against pitching guys close inside, back off my plate,
make you move your feet, make you feel uncomfortable.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yes, I used to pitch, not very well, but I
used to pitch.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
You gotta make people move their feet, You gotta move
people back.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
You can't make people dig in where they know this
guy ain't throwing at me.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
So I could just go, you know, reach across the
plate and get one. You can't do that if I
might get one in here, so you might be a
little reserve.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
You have a theory on why I think we don't
see that more would specifically Show Hey. Well two things. One,
I don't think we see it as much as period
a game, but the huge But you don't think the
Dodgers are being babies about Show. Hey, I'm gonna give
you that in one second. I think also Show is
just such a nice guy that I just think in
the back of people's head get the business too. I
think that happens ten years in prior for sure, meaning
(03:56):
like if we go like ten years and then you
go back to the beginning of baseball, the absolute nice
men who you are. I'm trying to stay and starting
pitcher in this league because that's a hard position to
come by, and I gotta I gotta scare you off.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
In the days of Bob Gibson, one all pitcher, Don Drysdale,
no guy for the Dodgers.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
If somebody hit a home run, you better you show.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
You better not do anything, because it ain't even gonna
I ain't even gonna get you your teammate, who's coming up.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Next, gonna get one in the rip? Boy, thanks a lot. Yeah,
don't do that. Don't do that. So so that's why
I think we don't see this much. I think that
era has changed. I mean, it's the same thing, Rod.
If a pitcher throws past eighty some nights, you're like, wow,
he threw more than eighty pitches. It's just a different area.
If a pitcher goes past six seven in, you're like,
(04:47):
whoa complete game? What? Whereas that was commonplace. So I
just think the game has changed. I think people's attentions,
their intentions teams, and I think hitting guys is not
necessarily a part of it, or pitching inside and scaring
guys off like they used to. So I think that's
why show hate doesn't get as much as you would think.
If you just fail from Mars and I told you,
look how great this player you is, he must be
(05:07):
getting hit a lot. Now, specifically to the question of
being babies, I think what you're seeing from the Dodgers
is a bit of man, stop being mad that we've
beat y'all. Stop being mad that we're better than y'all.
Stop being mad that we kind of been big brother
to you and just play ball, and I think that's
(05:27):
what you're getting from the Dodgers. And then obviously Dave
Roberts has to protect his shiny toy in show Hail Tany.
He's got to speak up, he's got to step up,
and it's for show hate to get hit again. Was
it last night? Right? I think that becomes where he's
like concerned about danger. Now I'll get in baseball, so
long you mess around, get hit, you could be out
a month and still be fine in the season. But
(05:49):
I think he's trying to protect this player because how dang,
how much more can there be? How dangerous will this be?
What's the end of this? This wasn't a one for
one and then we move on. This kept going, Guys
getting suspended, benches are clearing, and so I think Dave
Roberts is trying to set the tone like a right,
I get it, but enough is enough? More So, he
played back in the day, he played in this era.
He knows about that. But I think he's trying to
(06:11):
protect his best player and kind of set the tone
to bring it down a little bit. But show Hey
was the one who was like y'all relax. I'm good,
don't don't clear the benches. I'm good, don't even worry
about it. But that's when the game.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
And that's what I'm saying, Like I do get it that.
Of course, you don't want your players to get hurt.
You want to make sure you want to. But people
get people get hitting baseball, and you're making it like
I could see if they hit show hey every you know,
I don't know four games in a row or some
(06:48):
sort of pattern or you really believe it, but.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
He's got to be hit. He's got to be moved back.
It just can't. You can't put up those kind of numbers.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
And not ever have to fear that pitch could be
inside on you or something. And I just think the
Dodgers have definitely overreacted a little bit because of their guy,
and I get it. I think that they're making a
big deal. All you got to own it if you're
going to be throwing at him, you know, because that
was the Dave Bobbins rus and now he's threatening to
beat the other manager's ass.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Look at him. I like it. I like all of it. Baseball.
Guess who loves it? Baseball? Guess who? Me? And you
talked about because I just joined the show right in
the middle of the postseason Baseball love or right before
it started, but Baseball loved having one of the best
seasons ratings and again, I don't want to overly beat
people up with numbers, ratings, just the juice of it all.
(07:38):
We talked about that yesterday the NBA Finals, like it's
been really but something's not quite there, you know what
I mean. If this was the Warriors, caves and games, everybody,
your phone's blowing up. This has been the craziest Yo.
We don't get that. Still, I'm not getting any text
like I mean, you got your basketball buddy, if this
were if this were Boston and Celtics, it was at
(08:00):
twenty ten games, man, what I can't believe make Kobe
should have shot. He's old for this for now. I got.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
I got guys too, who are big basketball fans in
New York and they're Knick fans.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
And just tuned out.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
And you know, right after the Knicks guy eliminated, Like
it's a group text that we had going for nothing.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Nothing, So I bring up they only bringing that up
to talk about the ratings in baseball, even if the
raidings weren't the greatest last season. It was just great matchups.
You know, you had the the you finally got ultimately
you got the Yankees Dodgers first time since eighty one.
But we saw so many good matchups. So you saw
the Padres and the Dodgers, and you thought Padres finally
gonna overcome they didn't. You had the the Tigers coming
(08:38):
out of nowhere. I mean, we just had so many
good matchups. So I think this plays a big role
in that this is a heated rivalry. The Padres are this.
You know, they're treating the Dodgers as they really want
to treat themselves. They're upset at themselves that they let
last season postseason.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
So if you remember when they went up three three one,
they blew the Dodgers out at Dodgers Stadium and then
they were going home to San Diego, everybody thought this series,
oh are you kidding?
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Like I thought there was no shot. And I don't
think they've gotten over that. And I think there's, like
I said, the Big Brother, you know that they feeling like, man,
I'm so sick of Big Brother, you know, And I
think they're the the Napoleon syndrome they're tired of being
a little brother. We've had talented teams, we've had really
good teams. We've been up in series, We've had some
good regular season series against them. Why can't we overdo it?
(09:24):
And I think they're freaking out at the Dodgers when
really they're supposed to be turning that mirror and freaking
out of themselves. And this isn't new.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Their rivalry is like we talked about the Dodger, I
mean the Yankees and Red Sox and rivalry.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
This is the Giant, but this one is hot.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
This is definitely hot and now real chippy when they're
hitting people. But where are you on baseball? And then
this is where we want to hear from you. Is
it okay to hit people? I'm not headhunting. Well, let
us make that very clear. We do not agree on
anybody throwing the ball up at anybody's head or anything
like that. That I will never be into that he
(10:06):
needs somebody on the backside or die whatever, you know
what I mean and saying hey, yeah, well we'll put
you on, but we'll let you feel it when we
put you on.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Is that okay? Or have we gone soft on everything?
Speaker 1 (10:21):
And nobody can be hit, nobody can be pitched too close. Everybody, Oh, well,
he's a nice guy. We don't want to bother him
or the league. We can't have show Hey getting injured.
We can't have Judge getting injured like that. You can't
play like that. I understand from the league standpoint, they
don't want those guys to be hurt. Right, Remember Aaron
Judge got hurt when he stubbed his toe. You remember
(10:44):
that he stubbed his toe on the fence and missed
forty games or whatever it was. So I just think
that we've softened the game a little bit, and now
when guys get hit, it's a big deal.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
I think it's legislation. Is they're starting to legislate it
out the game where it becomes like an NBA a
hard five where we all go, that's a common that's
a common way. We gotta watch twenty minutes to review it.
And I think the NBA got so they were like,
we're gonna go so far away from the eighties nineties
basketball that they start look at everything and only reacted
to everything. It's getting to where again, that's why I said,
(11:21):
you can start to see an evolution where it's like that,
it's not as heavy or prevalent in the game anymore.
They're starting to get away from that. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven
nine nine six sixty three sixty nine. Where are you show, hey, Judge?
Off limits? Is it okay to hit batters even if
it's intentional?
Speaker 2 (11:41):
You know what I mean? Like? Is it okay to
hit batters?
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Pitch inside close or you like baseball the way it
is now where that usually is taboo. And that's why
guys get worked up when they are pitched close or
they are hit because they're so not used to being
hit anymore.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
I don't think people want to put them on base.
I don't want to put so hit on base. It
ain't worth it the more. Too analytical now, all right?
Speaker 1 (12:02):
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You didn't go because I knew it was gonna be
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Like, be it a fourteen year old girl? Rob, you
can live without your phone? No, five hours? You missed Prince.
We got to see Prince in his house. He floated
down on a purple cloud with a couple of ladies
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It was free. We all just went up there. They
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about getting hit by pitch? Is something we saw a
bunch between his Dodgers and Pacers, Dodgers and Pacers, Dodgers
(13:38):
and Padre series, Dave Robbers rated scrap show hel Tonic
to keep his tatiste. They say he won an oscar.
They said it was a change up in off speed
pitch and he fell out. It didn't move for like
seven minutes. He's putting extra sauce on it, like I
tell my daughters when they put a little extra on it,
(13:59):
is that a cake? Should people be able to hit
by a pitch? Are you over? It is a thing
of the pastor you say it's part of the game.
Eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox? Who we got?
Speaker 1 (14:06):
How about Jola in Dallas? You're on the odd couple
of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Jola?
Speaker 2 (14:11):
How are you? What's up?
Speaker 6 (14:13):
Hey?
Speaker 7 (14:13):
Kelvin?
Speaker 2 (14:13):
How you doing Hey?
Speaker 7 (14:15):
I'm doing good? Nah? Hey man, y'all know I had
to call in.
Speaker 8 (14:18):
Hey, I felt like super ro see that.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
You remember that.
Speaker 7 (14:20):
Guy but the other day when when I jumped on
Calvin the other day by not giving stats and stuff
about baseball, jumped on you off. Nice, No, listen, I'm gonna.
Speaker 9 (14:30):
Tell you this is good for the game.
Speaker 7 (14:31):
Hey, litten, Remember I'm talking about not giving a stat.
I looked up a stat just now. Aaron Judge has
only been hit by a hitch three times. I'm not
trying to hear it.
Speaker 8 (14:40):
Hey, was it only three?
Speaker 7 (14:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (14:43):
This whole season?
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Okay, I'm sorry, I thought you did. I was like,
hold up.
Speaker 7 (14:47):
Thirty six times in his whole career. So we're trying
to push old Connie off the off the mountain.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
We gotta do.
Speaker 7 (14:53):
I'm off the you know, batter's boxes.
Speaker 9 (14:54):
We just said to Aaron Judge.
Speaker 7 (14:56):
You know what I'm saying. You know what we gotta Hey,
I get it.
Speaker 10 (14:59):
I love it.
Speaker 7 (14:59):
I love the baseball. You know we watch it. But hey,
I'm not trying to I've been to plenty of baseball stadiums. Man,
I've seen Manny Machado is one of my favorite or
third basem Hey, I'm.
Speaker 8 (15:10):
Gonna tell you, we just gotta Hey, I love it.
Speaker 7 (15:13):
We got to keep it going. After they lost the
profarm though San Diego. Yeah, yeah, come back, there's no
way after that catch he made. That's one of the
cleanest catches.
Speaker 8 (15:22):
I've ever seen.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Yeah, he got suspended too, But let me hey, he
did what do you do for the juice? He got
suspended for the juice?
Speaker 7 (15:29):
Hey, and I'm not even a I mean, we'll talk
about that another day. Let me get Hey, this basketball thing, Bailey,
he's tripping.
Speaker 9 (15:38):
He better get it together.
Speaker 11 (15:39):
He's bad.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
I don't know what you got. People want to interviews
and all that. Man, thank you for the appreciate the call.
They listen. We just said it, Aaron, Josh can get
some of this smoke too. You here sitting hitting almost
back on four hundred and got all these home runs.
You can get some of this inside. He too, Judge,
I'm not by the way. You got to get another
You got another hit as we speak, in a home
run earlier and he just can't see was a single
(16:01):
or does it?
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Judge biblehead night tonight? And is it kershaw knight too tonight?
What is it? Giving a goodness?
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Chris in California, you're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
What's up, Chris?
Speaker 11 (16:14):
Yes, sir, I grew up going to Dodger games, but
I'm a lifelong time to go pasere fame. So old
boy right now is talking about how Parker has went
after Otani right right, and that was the wrong thing, right, Yes,
what the hell are the Dodgers allowed to target our
best player but we can't hit back right now? Double standard?
(16:38):
That's hypocritical.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
I agree, And and Tattoos is a guy who's been
been hit a lot by the Dodgers.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Did he get up yet? Because he's still he's and when.
Speaker 11 (16:49):
The managers came out, who got physicals Dave Roberts.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Yeah, you're sounding.
Speaker 9 (16:54):
Like a literal You're like a liberal cry baby right now,
thank you, buddy.
Speaker 11 (17:01):
We want to target our best player and we can't retell.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Come on, it's got to be both.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
And that's where players take for the call, normally police
to get him.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Though, because the Pie has felt like it was intentional.
His that where this all started was that the first
thing to set this off. See, that's what it is.
So I get his point, like, right, if you're gonna
throw a mine, throw jorys And that's the whole point.
But I think the Dodgers felt like you guys initiated,
you started it, and it goes back again to the
postseason when you had Manny Machado, Remember throwing it at
them on the dug out, like, oh my bad, I
didn't mean to throw the ball towards there. So I
(17:31):
just think there's definitely beef in the streets.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Another Chris from Lodi, California.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
You're on they couple of Fox sportuating what's up? Chris?
Speaker 12 (17:40):
What's on? Fellas?
Speaker 2 (17:41):
How you?
Speaker 7 (17:43):
So?
Speaker 12 (17:44):
Yeah, I think it's great for the game. I mean,
it's in baseball, it's the only thing you have to retaliate.
I mean you I always feel like the first one
usually might be different with the Dodgers went once the
rivalry is built up for once there's you know, built up,
you know, animosity towards each other. But I felt like
even the other night, I felt like the first plunk
(18:07):
was you know, it was unintentional, but then yeah, that's
what happens, it doesn't I felt.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Like his was intentional, and that's what kind of set
this whole thing off. Andy Pie has said, Uh, no,
I know that was intentional. We were talking and he
said some stuff and then then he got plum. Yeah,
so that kind of to me set the tone.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Of course, you like it in the game, you're you're
you know, like the idea that you police it if
guys you know that. That's why I remember there was
some pictures who if they hit batters, their teammates would
be mad at them because they don't have to get.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Up before I have to deal with.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
We don't have to get on a play and the
old days pictures used to have to get up to
so you better.
Speaker 12 (18:39):
Be can I think I think that can change. I
think that can change the energy of the team too.
I mean, like, I think it's good because I mean,
teams are you people are gonna be looking into the
next doger Padre games, not even for for the game itself,
just because of that. I think it's great for baseball
period and the story as long as they're not throwing
ahead right, no head on. I don't even like the
(19:00):
ankles because y'all, I don't want to bone. I don't
want to lose somebody, you know.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
But I think it's the game they came for. The
Mike Tyson's no doubt he was walking around with the
cheeks out when he fight Jake Paul. What was he
doing m J.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
And new Orland joined the couple. Look at m J
joining in on the baseball I love this.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Whoa now not no, sorry, sorry sir, that what's happening?
Speaker 8 (19:28):
What's good?
Speaker 1 (19:29):
What?
Speaker 8 (19:29):
What's good?
Speaker 2 (19:31):
You with this? You with this getting hit by pitchers?
Speaker 8 (19:35):
I'm not with this that this was my mom's favorite
team and that's my favorite team. No, I'm not with this.
I know it's intimidation in the game, but no, I
don't want to see uh Tiza out for you know,
out far with specific time whatever. I don't want to
see a Tony out and I don't think baseball wants
to see these guys out. So no, that intimidation. I
(19:56):
think that day is over. Robbed. I know you've been
you know, in the sports and right eighty seven, Yeah, gave.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
You eighty I thought, you know, in nineteen seventy, that's right,
thank you. I was in high school. I mean, yeah, seventies.
Speaker 8 (20:09):
Since you you policed it out of football, you policed
it out of basketball. You do the same thing in baseball.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
That That is where I agree with you, Jay, That's
why I brought up basketball in the eighties nineties. Rough
time you could close line of guy and be just
a regular file. And now they go to the board,
I mean the review for any and everything. I think
that's what the NBA and I think baseball. I think
the analytics have gotten into baseball and they're like, is
it worth it? It's even worth it.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Let's squeeze one last one in Dave in Oregon, you're
on the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
What's up, Dave?
Speaker 6 (20:37):
Hey fell it? Yeah, played that ball way through college.
The one thing you can say is if a guy
gets plunked the inning of your pitcher, right and you're
next up, next inning, you better hope he doesn't hate
you in the head because now we're throwing hands right.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
No, no head on it, no head on. We don't
want that. We don't want you to get hit his face.
You go bad.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
But but but definitely, Uh, the idea of retaliation is
out there and we know that.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Thanks Dave, appreciate The best part about all this is
we go to break here and get ready for Jonathan
von Tobel. Is how you're with all this. But when
a fan throws us to nothing to do with the game,
throws a beer at you and popcorn, you're can you
please go get security. But you want somebody to throw
a ball one hundred miles an hour, somebody. I can't
keep up with you, Rob Park. It's just a part
of the game.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
No.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
The guy right there with the striped shirt, can you
go get what? He throw a through entire water bottle
at me. I told get up. If he's doing popcorn,
my mouth is open. That's all I want you to do.
Keep trying to stop you from saying that. Ry. You
just keep saying it. Jonathan too. On the other side.
Right now, were you busy? I think he was busy, Jonathan,
but right now Steve.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
Major League Baseball suspended Padres closer Robert Suarez three games
and find him because it said he intentionally hit Showing
Tani with a pitch late in the last night's game.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
He will appeal.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
The two managers from last night each get one game
suspensions that have to be served tonight. Each fine. That's
Mike Shield, the Padres, Dave Roberts and the Dodgers. As
for Fernando Testeast Junior, who was hit again on the hand,
this time last night, no fractures according to imaging, and
he is in the lineup for the Padres, Tonight, Texas
has just closed out a six to two victory at Pittsburgh.
(22:25):
The win to Jacob de gromp six innings of work
and seven strikeouts. Today a game in Seattle at Chicago,
and it wound up a victory for the visiting side
nine to four. Two home runs for Cal Rawley, a catcher,
ladies and gentlemen. And this we're not even to July here.
A catcher has twenty nine home runs this season. That
(22:49):
is the all time record for a catcher before All
Star Break. Orioles are tied three to three at the Yankees.
In the top of the seventh inning. Aaron Judge is
three for three with a walk that Inclin Lootes his
twenty seventh home run. It's the Rays eight three over
Detroit only top of the fifth inning because there was
a rain delay at the start. The White Sox lead
now seven to one. In the ninth. At Toronto, Marlins
(23:11):
lead the Braves six to one in the eighth. The
Mets have tied it up at Philadelphia two to two,
top of the seventh. Cardinals leads six to one over
the Reds in the top of the eight. Scottie Scheffler
is tied for the lead at the Travelers as is
Justin Thomas, who shot a second round sixty four. Jason
Days one shot back in Connecticut. US men's soccer plays
against Sunday on Fox TV against Haiti, and the next
(23:33):
IndyCar Race is on Fox Sunday at Roade America in Wisconsin.
The best of three finals of the College World Series
starts Saturday. Three WNBA games tonight. NBA Finals Game seven
will be Sunday. The NBA Draft starts on Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Back to you, Steve, have a great night, have a
great weekend. Thank you. All right, it's the hot coup
of Rock Parker, Kevin Washington on a funky flashback Friday,
been and joining ourselves and again we are an hour
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If you're on the West coast, so already that for
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(24:08):
It's here right now. Join inst to Jonathan von Tobel Vson,
senior NBA analysts, host a prime time on vs in Jonathan,
What's up? How you doing? I told you we would
be here. I told you a game seven.
Speaker 6 (24:21):
Oh I'm sorry, Hey, no, I'll tell you this.
Speaker 9 (24:24):
I'm more surprised than I just learned it was summer
today because it's one hundred and eight degrees out here
at Las Vegas.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Yeah, officially officially eight My good not Yeah. Well, shoot,
the dagg On Pacers were hot last night. What happened?
If you're the Thunder? Were they nervous where they shook it?
What was that?
Speaker 13 (24:42):
Yeah? I don't know.
Speaker 9 (24:43):
It's kind of weird because we were talking about this
on the show today, Like what's annoying about the Thunder
and the way this series has gone is it's predictable
after the fact. You know what I mean is like
in the postseason they've been awful on the road and
then they show up again and they're off on the
road right like they're shooting disappears away from home and
did again in that game.
Speaker 7 (25:01):
I thought.
Speaker 9 (25:01):
The weirdest part about that, though, is how bad shake goes.
Alexander played like that was the worst game of his season.
I think the fact that he couldn't handle double teams,
kept turning the ball over. It was various, not lack
of days going defensive times as well. I don't think
it's a surprise that the Pacers won, considering that I've
underestimated them a lot of people have, and how well
they've played at home. But the degree to which they won,
(25:22):
how bad Shay looked, and how embarrassing that looked. For okay,
see that the degree to which they lost was very surprising.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
And here, Jonathan, I mean, the Pacers are a team
of destiny. They underdog in every round. They won unbelievable
games this year. They they their quote unquote best player,
star player. And Halliburnon gets hurt, right, Yeah, he has
no field goals in game five, only plays twenty three minutes.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
You know, I'm like, what do you have? Fourteen? You
know what I mean? He didn't turn in like he just.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Got well and put up a forty piece and it
was a struggle won and somehow play the next game.
He got the rest they got. They got a victory,
an easy victory in game six. And to me, the
pressures now on the young thunder playing at home, you
know what I mean, when the crowd could turn on
(26:17):
you as soon as things go bad.
Speaker 9 (26:20):
I would totally agree with mean, Look, you're you're the
team that was at one point, right, was pushing for
a historic season when you're talking about like a fewest
amount of losses or at least one of the teams
that have the fewest amount of losses, running for a
postseason or for a final victory, Like this team was
chasing history at one point, and now all of a sudden,
here you are with a Game seven on your home
floor and you've been essentially outplayed for I think most
(26:42):
of this series, like one of the victories you needed
in Indiana, you needed to set the Pacers to melt
down down to the pressure Game four, So I would
agree with you, like, pressure wise, this would be one
of the like all time egg on the face moments
for a Thunder team that I think had a lot
in front of them, Like and they're young, and I
would assume that they're gonna come back. But the second
if they go out there and they started, they to
(27:03):
build a lead. But if the Pacers start to come back,
I mean, I don't know how you guys don't go
back to Game five when they cut it down to
two in that second half, I think they felt that,
I think we all felt that, like, oh boy, like
are they really going to cough.
Speaker 11 (27:14):
This up here.
Speaker 9 (27:15):
It's not like they blew a mountain Game five. So
I'm with you, and I think if we're talking about
just pure pressure, there's no question that OKAC is gonna
have a ton on their play. And if they ever
start to like let go of the rope just a
little bit, they're really going to start to tighten up.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
I think on Sunday and Jonathan, here's the other thing, too,
is the big talk all year was they can't win.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
They're too young, Like they don't have the experience.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
They haven't gone through the getting there, getting closed and
losing like like the Pacers. You could at least look
at Eastern Conference finals last year, you know what I mean,
like the progression.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
And they got some older players, a little older older.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
No, Siakams won a championship already. That that's and so
I really feel like Indiana to me, they can't go
in there tight.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
No one expected them to win.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
They've been what today seven eight nine point underdogs every game.
Speaker 9 (28:04):
Yeah, and I think the point about Tiakam is the
most important, Like every time for this series, I've kind
of brought him up. I don't think there's any question
to this point. Right now. If they win on Sunday,
I think he's their MVP. Yep, he's been brilliant. He
looks like to your point, like he's not he's not
scared by the moment. He has been mister consistent. Outside
of Game two, the guy just knows exactly where to be.
(28:26):
He's taken advantage of all those smaller matchups. Like that's
been the best part about watching him. If there's a
guard on him, he's gonna go down low, He's going
to take him to the basket. He's gonna do what
he needs to do. He's gonna defend what he needs
to do. And the point about just the experience and
him having a ring and being in those moments and
being part of game seven, not in the finals, but
in some of those series. I believe that Philly game
right with Kawhi Leonard and the bounce shot, that was
(28:47):
a Game seven. So like that's the whole run that
he has been on. I think it looks like he
has been very ready for the moment.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Here's the thing though, By the way, Jonathan von Tobel
joining US vs senior NBA analyst hosts a prime time
on VCIN I keep telling this to Rob. It finally
broke when you had the Pacers finally lose to in
a row because they had been five and zer at
that point in time after a loss. You have the
Thunder who were six and after loss this time, So
are they do they go seven and oh now after
a loss and just do exactly kind of as you said,
(29:15):
it's kind of sort of been predictable. And also does
s SGA need to do something about those other acadyms
the MVP and show you this is why I'm the MVP.
Speaker 9 (29:27):
Yeah, I would say so, especially after that last game
like that was you know, Shay I think has been
pretty good. I don't know how you guys felt like
even go back to game one, even though he dropped
over thirty points in Game one, I even like you
look at that game and you're like, yeah, you know,
there's a couple of times in that one where like
shaking of Siaka, he let him blow by him for
a key offensive rebound. At one point in Game one,
he got blown by Tyger's Holiburton a couple times in
that first game. Like there's been moments throughout the series
(29:48):
where the scoring has been there for Shay, but the
little things. You're watching him, You're like, all right, like
come on, man, Like we understand you have home court,
we understand you have confidence, but you got to start
to show I think, some consistency and so bounce back
from that last game, Like you've got to be able
to show something. I don't think there's a universe in
which they win this game and he doesn't win MVP
like Finals MVP. But it is one of those things where, look,
(30:10):
if you're going to be anointed the MVP of the
regular season, if you're going to take it from Jokich,
who had a career year despite the fact that he
has won multiple MVPs, and you're gonna be deemed like,
you know, the next coming maybe face of the league
type guy. This is one of the moments where you
have to show up fair or not.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
And if the Pacers win, I don't know, do we
go back.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
We talk about it the Dallas Mavericks in twenty eleven,
the Pistons of two thousand and four. It would be
on that scale and maybe even bigger. Where where are
you as far as like an unexpected championship? Because I
think those two are the two that people look at,
you know, over the last twenty or something years.
Speaker 9 (30:50):
Oh yeah, I mean, especially if you look at it
from like the odds perspective, right where they were approaching
triple digits before the season started. It was deep into
the beginning of the regular season where there was not
much expected for this team. So we're talking about it
from the like an odds standpoint, this would be one
of the more unlikely champions in the NBA that we
have seen in a very long time. And it's like,
I even think if they lose this, we should remember
(31:10):
this run for a while, just given the clutch nature
of what Halliburton has done. But to your you know,
but to your point of not only just where the
preseason odds were the expectations, but again invoking the fact
that many people like myself really thought this Thunder team
was very special and they still can be. But if
they can pull this off and make this improbable run
and then cap it off with a Game seven victory
(31:32):
at home, what just the fifth one we've just urged
me on the road to the fifth Game seven road
ups that we've seen in the NBA Finals, Like that
would be something that is insanely special, and I think
that it should be a run remembered for a long time.
If they were able to win this thing on it.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
But let me say, yeah, if they lose, okay, see
I think people will I just wonder how to look
at this like was it were they were really that
good where they you know, because they were such overwhelming
favorites where you go, maybe we were right like all
the people who just didn't buy in for the usha
(32:07):
Lakers go on, you know what I mean? Like remember
that right, a lot of people were picking the Lakers
all lose in the way, you know.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
I mean, who's in the way? Really? You know, they've
never had this kind of run.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Why can't Lebron and uh Luca you know win if
they play well or whatever?
Speaker 11 (32:24):
Well, I mean I.
Speaker 9 (32:25):
Would take it a step further, and I thought, what
I think is gonna be interesting is, you know, if
they lose this series, and even if they win it,
I think this should be part of the conversation. But
if they lose this series, if you're Sam Presty in
this front office, are you not looking around and going
all right, you know we have the assets. Do you
not call Milwaukee? Do you not start to try to
maybe go look like we have a good roster, but
we have a ton of assets and we don't have
(32:45):
to dig into our core a ton to go see
if you will get Janis on to the cupo to
push you over the edge, because like, you're a team
that is very good, but clearly you're not as good
as maybe a lot of us expected them to be.
And they're flaws here, But pairing a Shay Gildes Alexander
type with the Janis on to the cumpo and really
and just to make your legacy of the Western Conference
and be an absolute monster, I think maybe those conversations
(33:05):
have to take up a little bit more, especially if
they lose this game to Indiana.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Jonathan, if you don't pump your breaks, Jonathan, they're gonna
be like we got all the way back here, and
I think the story will be we said, man, maybe
we all and Rob and I have admitted maybe we
all slept on Indiana who had been like forty.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Five And Jonathan, Jonathan, you are right because Okase was
overwhelming favorite. This is not like they just and that
is with Indiana playing well, being a number two team
since January, people still looked at them.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
And were like not and a half point underdogs. Man,
they beat Cleveland, they beat the I know, and they
still and it was still not an app That's my point.
We're all gonna go with Dang, we just kept sleeping
on Indiana the whole time. Jonathan were against it, man,
But go ahead.
Speaker 9 (33:53):
No, I was gonna say, I think you're right, Like
I don't think that I'm even guilty of it. Where
Like you come out of these games and like the
narrative is like, hey, you know, the thunderstunk on the road,
or hey you know the Thunder didn't do this, or
OKAC didn't do that, when the reality should be like,
look like I thought we Carl had a good defensive
game plan against Oka see the other night, right like
they were doubling Shay and they were doing it at
the right time. They started picking him up later down
(34:14):
the floor as opposed to really early when they were
doing it throughout the series. It changed the way they
defended him and it really threw him for a whirl.
So I'm guilty of it.
Speaker 10 (34:21):
We should be.
Speaker 9 (34:22):
Talking about that. But at the same time, I mean,
what was the point of getting all them picks if
you're not going to start using them? She spop topin
should go get rid of Holme Grin and let's go
get Giannis and get this thing going.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Just ody and get rid of chatter picks. All right,
thanks a lot, Johnny and Los Angeles rams has gone on.
All right, John at the Man, I have a great one.
Thank you. Last call on that Way, last Calling Away
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Speaker 2 (35:05):
It's crazy to think this could be a funky Flashback Friday,
but it totally could because it came out like oh
two or something. Dj Ali Alex on the Ones and
twos on a funking flashback Friday's Your Boys. It is
the odd cup of Rob and Kelvin. Excellent show before
Rob gets ready to go on his real vacation, first
one since last August, since Moby Dick was a guppy,
(35:26):
since Moby Dick was a guppy. Getting ready to go
hit since the Luisi and approachase was an escalo. Oh God, Alex,
while he's gone, We're gonna come up with like five
new old tags. You know something else we can think of?
Since the independence was signed, yep, since the Noah's Arc,
since the Ten Commandments, can you know form something? We'll
come up with some other suf eve came from Adam's
(35:46):
rib since he had bit the apple. All right, we're
getting ready to do Last Call. Now, Last Call got
a tissue for me on this first day of summer.
(36:11):
Who we got about Dion in Texas?
Speaker 1 (36:14):
You're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio and you
are the last call.
Speaker 10 (36:20):
Hey, what's going on? Fellas? Hey listen to the shaw.
We hadn't been to get in fantastic. Hey, I'm not
thinking to catch your guests, the last guest that was on.
But one thing I want to say. He mentioned the
face of the league. And one thing I just kind
of when MJ retired, This feels like that moment where
we had you had Kim Duncan, you had Shock, you
(36:41):
had Alan I Carter, then you had uh, you had Cobe.
Toward the end, I think we I can definitely say
that Lebron and MJ have been definitely the two faces
league right now. We just got to see we might
have that filler right now. And the real reason I'm
so on the last call. Hey Kate, Kate Man, I
(37:02):
want to give you props. On Monday, I think you
were you were talking about Lebron's podcast, and I like
how what you said. I vividly remember when Kevin Durant
getting traded to not traded, going to the Gold to
State Warriors, me and my son. The first thing we
said is the ring culture conversation that the media have
just flooded us with. We stopped talking about how great
(37:25):
players are and then we just went the ring culture.
And so I think that's why I think Lebron was
spot on in his comments. And that's why Kevin Durant.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Now he's getting killed by everybody except for you too,
because because he doesn't have to he didn't, He didn't
you could have a conversation, so what you don't have
to follow along and and the perfect example is Joannis
Joanna's did not follow along with that. Yannas said, I'm
staying in more walking.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
No, No, it's not he is not. As I want
to get to this, Yeah, argu about it later, I'll
call you interrupt your trip. All right, all right, this
is Sammy Sosa twenty years twenty last time, twenty one
years he'd been to Wrigular Field. Let's hear how his
welcome went.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Making his Riturn Wriggling feel for the first time in
twenty one years. Please welcome back comes legend.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Sammy so same, I said, pressed, I had to feel good?
Are you kidding me? You want to cry it if
you're him in that moment, you don't know what you know.
Twenty one year is a long time. You don't know
if it's you know, people are gonna jeer, you cheer
you what and to get that. And I think it's
(38:43):
because rob time heals all wounds. And also I think
a lot of people realize he and Mark McGuire saved
baseball and base was going they did, they did say baseball,
Baseball knew what was going on. Don't don't scapegoat these guys, y'all.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Don't use two or three guys and just act like
it's all of them. And the fans just showed you
like they don't have any animosity like the game might
have towards them. And they remember those great summer nights
being at Wrigley Feel and watching Sammy social Doer's thing.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
You don't forget those. No, he was saving part of
saving baseball, chasing the numbers, chasing sixty home runs and
all that good stuff. And I just think people remember that,
and I think again time I was, well, I'll give
you an Derek Jeter. I mean, Alex Rodriguez. See these
two guys co Trey Turner had to me they weren't
him been there Alex Rodriguez. Pull love now Minnesota games
(39:34):
and show him at Timberwolves. He's doing all the Fox stuff,
you know what I mean, Like time he was on
Fox in ESPN at the same time exactly. So I
think that's what it is. Have a great have a
great trip. Yeah, Joing the first day of summer, all
your cities. I'm checking all your kids in these different cities.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon is coming up next.
Speaker 13 (39:52):
I never missed your radio show.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
I never hear it, so I never miss it. Did
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