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Speaker 3 (00:53):
We got a couple more things. Hey, Hey, coming up again.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
We're gonna have a conversation now, some NBA conversations and
all I'm gonna throw a little music one for you
Carrie at the.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
End of this hour.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Man, you know, in honor of Coachella, Yes, which is
happening this starting this weekend and then also obviously next week.
It's a two weekend thing, and then they go straight
into stage coach as well, you ever been to Coachell
just out of cryos before?
Speaker 5 (01:17):
We know, we talked about that a little bit, but
you've been there. I've never been, never been. Have you
been out there?
Speaker 6 (01:22):
I have it?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
You know, it's funny. I'll tell you a quick story.
You know.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
I do the news out here in La and I'm
on my show and we were doing a little segment.
I'm like, who was gonna be there? And said, am
I too old to be at Coachella? And mind you,
this is like five six years ago, right, so I'm
even younger than I am now. And I'm just being
funny tongue and cheek. And then they're like, no, we
were having a little fun segment. Later on, I get
a DM from a council member out there, like an
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actual you know, somebody on the city council board or
something like, hey, I watch you all the time, love
a show. No, you're not too old. You would have
a blast. There's more to Coachella than you think. Come
on out, you have a great time. So it's it's like,
come out next year. I got you, you have a
great time. I was like, oh, this is amazing. You
know what the next year was COVID. Oh you missed it? Yeah, yeah,
And then you know the next year others COVID and
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so and then after that, you know, obviously years go by.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
You know, I had another kid. I just forgot about it.
Speaker 7 (02:14):
You know.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
But so that was my dang it. I had a
shot at going to Coachella. Now I'm too old, and
I don't know if I can have.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
Oh, I can't handle it. So yes, I know that
for a fact. Yeah, people stepping on shoes and all that,
you know.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
So, but we'll talk a little musical little coach a
little bit later on in the show, looking forward to that.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
You know what's interesting.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
For the last probably fifteen years, there's been an interesting
relationship we've all seen play out in our face, and
that is Shaq and Dwight Howard's relationship. And Shack, as
we know, can be sensitive at times, can be a
bully at times, can be hilarious and funny at times.
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That's just Shack all all things encompassing.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
And so one of the persons that he tends to
go at is Dawhight Howard.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
And whether that was his gameplay or lackterof And one
of the things that I love Shaq drives me crazy
about Shaq though, is he'll say things like.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
I was the most dominant four seven, nobody could be
let me, I was the one. I'm one of the
best wayes you've ever seen. But then he'll turn around
and say this, uh, Shack.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
At halftime of Bernie Johnson, here's Shaq, what did you
think of such and such performance?
Speaker 3 (03:28):
It was terrible. He should be doing better, He should
be giving me s l N. What's that shock? Shock?
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Like numbers like everybody can't give you if you're one
of one, right, you're this this great, This is a
freak of nature, amazing, all time great. But then on
the flip side, everybody's supposed to putting them numbers like
you like that can't be either. You were just that unique,
that special, that that talented, that different.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
And then there's the rest of the guys.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
You get what I'm saying, Like everybody can't be Jordan,
everybody can't be Patrick Mahomes, everybody can't be Tiger Woods,
everybody can't be Shack. But he was always under White Howard,
And I think back and I think a part of
that was. Shaq was the man in Orlando for a
pndful of seasons before he went to the Lakers. Well,
Orlando drafts Dawhight, he becomes the man, takes him to
a finals, four time defensive player. He's just he's that guy.
(04:15):
I think Shaq might have felt a little something about that.
Shaq was one of the more entertaining guys in the league.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Fun. We loved him. He was just jobial, he was personality.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Dwight kind of became that fun Everyone loved him, dancing,
cheese and smiling and kept Get the Dunk contest alive
for a couple of seasons and came out as Superman,
which is what Shack has tattooed on his arm. And
I think his own partner, you know, Kenny Smith, Oh,
Superman is in the building. Superman is in the building.
And I think Shaq took that like hold on, hold on.
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Dwight had the nerve to become a Laker as well.
So I think there's a little bit of that, like
he's following him on footsteps. He's kind of you know,
I don't know if I like that, but I said
all that to say, that's what made it interesting that
Dwight Howard said one of the persons I would love
to bring me in for my Hall of Fame, you know,
and you know, as I'm being enshrined, it's Shaq. And
(05:09):
I was like, whoa, wait, whoa. I thought there was
beef there. There were some issues so on to play with.
Dwight had to say on Dan Patrick and then I
want to get your thoughts here we go.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
You think you and Shaq will ever be friends?
Speaker 6 (05:23):
Yes? We Actually I saw him in Orlando. Actually after
I was inducted into the Hall of Fame. I was
out at a restaurant Eden with my family and my friends,
and the owner said that Shaq was actually at the restaurant,
and I said, I'm going to go talk to him,
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and everybody was like what I said, Yes, I'm going
to go talk to him. I got up, went over
to where he was at, shook his hand, asked if
we have a minute the loan and we had a
real good conversation and Down was very happy about it.
We expressed some things and uh, yeah, the next time
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you see both of us together, we'll talk about the
stuff that we had a sit down about. But it
was a really good talk and I'm glad that the
universe everything worked out perfectly.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
That is actually amazing that, yes, the person the day
he puts it out there and the end of the
day he's announced he see Shack at a restaurant, you
know what I mean? That got God through mallyut like,
oh ahead, do that. But your thoughts on just kind
of their relationship there, dynamic and Dwight wanting him to
be the guy to bring him into the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
I think that's the that's the coolest thing I've heard today,
to be honest, just coming from Dwight's perspective. Dwight didn't
have to reach out to that guy. That guy's been
like you know, Shaq's been really really hard on that
hard on Dwight for a long time man. And like
like you said, not even for his play really, because
his play speaks for himself. He's a Hall of Famer
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right at the end of the day. But just like
you said, comparing himself to to d White, Dwhite never
has to be compared.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
To Shaq, right, you know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (07:04):
Like that that doesn't even the conversation, doesn't that conversation
doesn't even get him. No, And so like the fact
that this guy is like constantly berating him his whole
career to get to this point to actually still want
to mend that relationship and make that relationship a viable thing,
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and actually have him be the one to, like you said,
be a part of your Hall of Fame ceremony. I
think I think the whole conversations around this is just
my adoration for Dwight for being big enough to actually
do that and make that relationship stronger on his behalf,
for him, not for Shack. And that's kind of where
I stand with the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
What about you? Well, you know what.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
I again, I think one of the things I think
we've learned about Shaq, He's gonna speak his mind, he's
gonna be just gruntled about things. He's gonna pick on
people at times. But I also think we know Shaq
has a really big heart for sure. And you know,
and you know this, I think Dwhite has been proven
that he's too. He's never been a mean guy or
anything like that. I think when two men get in
the room and you know this, and I think you
(08:08):
probably know this even more now on this side of
media versus being the player, you gotta speak your mind.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
You gotta say things in some days. Listen, I'm on
two different.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Microphones every day. I am on TV News every single
day live. I do this live every day with Rob.
And you're gonna say something you didn't really mean. You're
gonna say something, or you had a bad day, or
that person had a bad game or day you took
it out, maybe you're a little too hard, or just
so on and so forth. But when you actually sit
down and get in a room like we were trying
to do, believe it or not. I don't know if
you heard about that with RG three.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Rob.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
Yeah, we're trying to, you know, get those two to
what happened. I'm not it just fell through.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
It fell through, couldn't figure out and come to the
same agreement on a couple of things.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
So I'll just leave it at that.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
But that was the goal because when you get two people,
two grown men who don't have real hatred, right, it's
not like it's beef on the street. You didn't slap
mom or something crazy. You know, like we can sit
down hash it out. Look, man, I was on TV.
I was having fun. I was just poking fun at
you or another person. Hey, man, I don't know if
you knew that. I know you were just trying to
be you know, critical of my game, but I took
it personally because you would bring up that da da
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da da, and you can hash these things out. So
I love it. I love to see that. I love
to see men be men. I love it when I
saw Magic Johnson and Isaiah Thomas, and that was different
because they were actually best friends for a very long time,
best friends, and for them to not speak for decades
and finally hash it out and tape it for all
of us to see.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
I thought that was therapeutic.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
For all of us to see two grown, famous, successful
men who had gone through their own personal struggles and
battles and then to sit there and say I'm sorry,
I love you, and you know, let's get back to
it and hug and cry it out.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
That was amazing.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
That's one of my favorite moments from from you know,
seeing pro athletes kind of hash them things out. But yeah,
and I also say this, it made me think, too,
who would you have bring you out if you were
inducted into the Hall of Fame? Not you, not a
family member, not because I think that's kind of a
given A father a mother. Maybe if it's an uncle
(10:06):
or somebody who's in life, but a non family member.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
In this case, it was shot at shock for Dwight.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Who would it be maybe in the sports world, just
to keep it kind of somebody who had an impact
in your life.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Who would that be for you? Yeah, I'll keep it
in the sports world, man.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
And when I came in as a rookie to the
New York Jets, I had I had a great crop
of veterans there when I got there to kind of
show me so many ropes, show me how it was
to be a pro. You know, I was a rookie
coming in and you know, I started from you know,
I started from day one right like I was thrown
in the fire, so having to grow up really quickly
and learn how to do it. There was a special
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teammate of mine who's still one of my really good
friends right now. And to think and you know, like
in this whole process, we didn't talk for years, right
we went he ended up going to a different team
and we kind of fell off a little bit, and
you know, but we reconnected a few years later after
we retired, and literally sat down at then and it
just picked up right where the old times were, man,
(11:02):
and it was such a beautiful thing and that and
he's part of the Fox family too, so it's it's
it's actually cool.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
But Jonathan Billma So he would be the one.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
He would be the one that would I would definitely
call to walk me out. That's my brother, one of
the best guys out there, student of the game, somebody
I love man as a brother, So that would be
my guy for sure.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
I love it, man, I love hearing about those great relationships.
For me.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
Uh, it would have been not that I played profession
I don't know if you knew that I didn't play
in the league.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
I just want to make sure you didn't use thought
I was in the league.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
I saw, I saw your stats right beside me, sitting
here while I'm saying, yeah it was Why why is
it page?
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Why is it page? Blake, don't do me like that. No,
but I think it would be awesome. You know.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
It would be the late great Greg Harden. I don't
know if you're familiar with him. He was my best
friend's father and he was just g Harden for me.
You know, look, Ga, but I didn't realize at the
time how how much he meant to so many people.
His passing and his celebration of life last year. I
mean you had Michael Phelps was there, Uh, Tom Brady,
(12:06):
Tom Brady did a special video for him. Charles Woodson,
my good, my boy. Desmond Howard was there.
Speaker 6 (12:12):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
He meant so much to so many people.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
He was basically a sports council, sports therapist, sports just
uh you know guru if you will, at Michigan and
helped athletes of all athletes, not just I mean gymnasts,
baseball players. Helped them with the mental aspect of it.
As you know, it can get tired. We all we
are non professionals under that. But it would have been him,
but he passed last year. So rest in peace of
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my man g Harden. But my coach Swift back in
high school, man, it's amazing to have great people like that.
Coach Swift for me was that guy that just took
a liking to me, was hard on me, expected greatness
from me, and but also knew how to motivate me.
And also knew how in the middle of a game
if he needed me to lock down the other you know,
team's point guard. He gave me that look like all
her man clamp him down, and then fast forward, he
(12:59):
ended up being part of Derek Jeter's foundation.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
He kind of was helped run that and had me.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Speak to the kids and do some cool stuff and
you know, we check in with each other and so
he's just been a great guy.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Like you said, we don't talk all the time.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
Years went by, but I know what he meant to
me then, I know what he's so proud of me
now to see where a little crazy kate up with
the girl to be and so he would be the
guy non fairly just to come out there because he
knew the athletic side of me and just and he
kind of seen me throughout the years.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
So that's always cool and special to have that.
Speaker 5 (13:29):
How cool was that though, to have that person to
you know, like, I think that's kind of what we do,
me and you individually, which I've gotten to know you
here better as we've done more and more shows and talk,
but just that mentorship and how big it is and
actually stepping in that role and using it for the
greater good and not demeaning guys, especially when you've done
that thing. Like really, that's the part about the whole
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shack and Dwhite thing that was kind of frustrating for
me from Afar right point. Yeah, you know, I've shocked,
seen and actually gone through some of the same stuff
and has been attacked by people that he looked up to.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Right.
Speaker 5 (14:01):
He always talked about that story with him and Kareem, like,
why wouldn't you change that and do something else for
the for the youth or for somebody that you see
that can be as great as you. And that's why
I always had a little negative discourse when it came
to that conversation.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
Yeah, I mean, you thought, that's one thing Shaq you
would love to see, and I'm not gonna I'm not.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
I will reserve the idea that maybe he does it.
We don't know.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
I'll reserve that, but to knowledge you would love to
see Shaq dwight Man come to the crib. Let's chop
it up. Here's a couple of moves I've did. Here's
how I dealt with the pressure of being a Laker.
Here's how I dealt with the pressure of being a
superstar in the NBA. Here's a couple of little things.
Here's here's my guy who's a you know, a specialist
with shooting whatever, whatever it is, you know you'd love
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to see more of the mentor aspect of it versus
the Hey you're not putting them numbers like me, then
you're not great.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Hey, you know you're not dunking on everybody like.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
I would have did. Hey, you don't have four rings
like I did. It's like, all right, we got it,
we got it. You're one of one.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
We know that. I did think i'd want that, all right?
Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Did you think this was strange for Dwight Howard to
ask Shack to bring him in the Hall of Fame?
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Uh? Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox?
Speaker 4 (15:12):
Or you think it's cool to see guys bury the
hatchet if it were you and you were Dwight year
ten fifteen years again, ridiculed on TV and the social media,
would you ask Shack to bring you out? Or you like, nah, bro,
somebody else is gonna have to do that. Eight seven
seven ninety nine on Fox. We want to hear from you.
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Man, what's the second? Noowy sleep? You know what's funny
about this?
Speaker 6 (16:03):
Carrie?
Speaker 4 (16:05):
I mean Rick James Lived the Wildlife, by the way,
has a great documentary. Did you ever see that documentary
about him? It came out about two years ago. I
haven't seen it. Oh it's incredible, done so much. Oh man, amazing, amazing.
I haven't didn't know so much about him, but it was.
It was fascinating. But just when you write a song
like this, like all the girls of his life had
to look like, were you talking about me?
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Exactly?
Speaker 4 (16:24):
Was this about me? Because I know you ain't gonna
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quick topic before we get to something else here, Carrie,
after trending, I want to talk some hoops with you,
but I want to go to this. Did you see
there's so much happening this past season in NCAA, which
men and women's basketball, and now you have South Carolina
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one of their big time stars. She is super nice
too when it comes to her skill set. You have
Malaysia for Wili. She is gonna be entering the transfer portal.
She's young, she is young, but she's gonna be transferring now.
And this is happening more and more and more where
(17:28):
To me, that was one of the great things that
work for the women's side of things is that you
have them staying typically for three four years. Maybe they
transferred once when they were early or something freshman soft Moore,
but you got to know them, you know what I mean.
They were at their school for a long time, and
they were there because obviously they can't go into the
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WNBA till they're twenty two. So to me, I think
that was working in their benefit as far as the
star power right and now with in n al. It's like,
all right, I'm making money. There's no rush. Some of
these girls are making more money than they was making
the w NBA. And I think that was the appeal.
Like you knew Pagebackers is at Yukon, right, Uh, you
got you have Asia Wilson is at South Carolina. You
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just knew where to see. Caitlyn Clark was at Ile
Boom boom boom, right, and you knew it. You see that,
you see the team coming up that you know the
star is gonna be playing. Your thoughts are the transfer
porter It's good for the kids. Do you wish you
had it when you were playing ball and the ability
to just go in and everywhere and they won't affect you,
like you didn't have to wait a year and all that.
Speaker 5 (18:26):
No, Man, you know what I I the transfer portal.
I think it works for some people. But for me, man,
I was one that you know, I had that idea
of leaving Louisville after my after my sophomore year. I
mean I went to Louisvee as a quarterback, right, and
so uh the coach wanted me to got a new coach.
He wanted me to move to uh play safety and
switch positions. The first My first idea was to get out.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Of them, out of here, come out.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
I'm going to transfer right and go play quarterback at
Tennessee Tech. Just you know, I'm just throwing a team
out there, just right, annywhere to go play quarterback?
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Right? And my dad was like, no, we you commit
to a place, you stick there.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
You you ride through some of the things that's gonna
come your way, like you're gonna become a man this way.
And so I stayed, and obviously it worked out for me.
And I know it's different for everybody, But I don't
know if it's a good thing. I think having freedom
is a good thing, but I just don't know if
people are these these girls, the guys are making these
decisions based off the right thing.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Yeah, I do like the idea what your your pops
was telling you.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Yeah, I'm not listening.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
It's tough because gone are the days of amateurism.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
When you're sitting there and you know, boy, let me
tell you something.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
It's all about life and understanding everything ain't gonna be
good sometime with the downs and because then it was different, right,
it was you're really doing this for You're getting a
scholarship and maybe you just get education and blah blah
blah blah. Well now and I am you're right. These
kids are like, oh well, they're like how much they
paying over there? I mean, you have some people who
are having amazing collegiate careers at a school, Like the
(19:54):
young lady had Notre Dame, but I forgot her now
Olivia Miles. Yeah, Olivia Miles. And she was like a star.
One of the best ways she He's nice. And they
were like she was like, I'm out, and you're like,
wait what But again, if a school hits you up
and I'm just throwing out numbers and they're like, hey,
we'll give you four hundred thousand and you're only making
a couple hundred there or something like that.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
We got two hundred for you and they're only paying
you fit. You know what I mean. It's hard nowadays.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
So that old conversation with pops or your culture, your
role model that says stick it out and everything ain't
life ain't gonna be what you like, and you gotta
learn a lesson and you gotta understand that the upside
and down to the roller coaster ride of life. And
you're like, but pops four hundred thousand. Yeah, son, it
ain't always about money. And they promised me six hundred
the next year. Go ahead, over there, go go head,
(20:41):
go ahead, I'll pack you back for you. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
So I know, yeah, I know, but it's hard. It's tough,
it is.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
And like you said, that bag is looking really good
to an eighteen, nineteen twenty year old kid to twenty.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
Did you see some of those some of those kids, Oh,
I know what to high school with me and you
carry Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Some of them. I'm like, ain't that. I'm like, oh,
but that's that's Davante.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
And I think that and Kevin, I think that's part
of why there's so much movement then, And it's more
about the money. What that part you just said, like
they're not kids anymore. They're actually they're young men and
young women, you know what I mean. And some of
that part, right, I think you.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
Tru man, some of them are fully vetted into their form.
K I mean, I'm looking like, hold on, dude, ain't
no way. I look at you and I think collegiate
nothing about you, says college Houston.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Game Man Houston.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
I am convinced half of Houston absolutely was They were
freshmen in high school.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
When I was a senior, I convinced, no question. LJ.
Cryer played in nineteen final fours. Man, it's man, all
right as it is. I want to get carried. You
know you are a.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
Dallas Maverick fan and uh, it was a rough night
the other night, and maybe you're a Laker fan now
because that's what it looked like it was in Dallas.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
I want to get your thoughts on that.
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Speaker 3 (22:18):
Are God. Carrie Rhoads is in for Rob today. Carrie,
we Man, what'd you laughing at?
Speaker 6 (22:26):
Man?
Speaker 3 (22:26):
I'm laughing because we.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
Just gotta love our older brother, big brother, uncle Rob, whatever.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
You want to call him, because sometimes I just it's
it's a listen.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
The we were talking about the Dallas Mavericks Laker games
and man, stop laughing like that.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Man, you talk bad, bad, My bad, my bad.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
You're right, You're right, But I think you'll appreciate what
I'm going with this. Rob just went off on Luca.
He said, Luca, those were crocodile tears. As if the
man can't be emotional about the only place he's ever known,
the place he came to as a teenager, left to
literally came across the halfway across the world and you know,
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to play for this team, and Dirk's taking him under
the wing. Mark Cuban took him under the wing and
was literally closing on the home and then got traded.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Out the blue Like, why would he not be emotional
going back?
Speaker 4 (23:18):
And you know this, I told him, I said, look, man,
when guys go back to places they spent years, you
know what, they often get emotional about the stuff that
people don't think about. Seeing the concessions guy that he
saw every day, that always from his favorite diet coke,
you know, seeing that that security guard that they have
a special handshake, you know, seeing that equipment manager that
always got him right, got him the extra tape he
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needed and all that, and those are also things.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
So him being in that building, seeing that, smelling that arena,
why would he not be emotional? But you know, Rob
gonna rob But my point is.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
I told him they're absolutely going to roll out the
red carpet, get him a montage, video, a celebration, the video.
They're gonna go ahead. They had the chairs out there
because it was multifaceted.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
One.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
I think they were trying to do it for the fans, right.
I think they Hey, look, fans, I'm sorry, are bad.
We're gonna do it right. We're gonna get it right. Also,
I think they're trying to do it for the league.
Like everybody thinks this is a crazy trade, but let's
at least do this part right, honoring the man that
we traded, you know what I mean, because that could
have been double You didn't say they didn't honor him.
Right Now they're bashing you for the trade. Now they're
bashing you for how you do. You were disrespectful to
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him and didn't show them any level. And then when
he came back right and and also maybe just maybe
potentially future free agents who would say, man, this is
how y'all treat y'all legends.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
You know, this is how y'all treat your people.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
So but the fans were all in Dallas, Maverick fans
who are fans actually went out and bought Laker jerseys.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
It sounded like a home game for the Lakers.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
You as the resident Maverick fan, yep, I wanted to
get your thoughts on what happened the other day.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Yeah, it was bittersweet.
Speaker 5 (24:46):
I mean, obviously Luca, even though he played for my team,
he wasn't he was never my favorite player. Obviously the
best player, right, So for me, there's that level of I'm.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Rooting for yeah, you know what I mean, like the
best and yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
I'm rooting for my team, want team to win, I
want him to play well, and I want I did
revel in that moment with him. Those are not crocodile tears.
Those are real tiers and real tiers. And you said
it like this guy's from a from a foreign country
millions I mean thousands of miles or what not mean,
but thousands of miles away, right, And you know those
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foreign players and they come in, they do feel like
that's a new that's their second home, right, and so
having that layer of the second home, all the people
you've known since you've been in this country, Like you said,
the concessions people, the tape, the tape guys, tape girls,
video girls, the video women. I don't want to say girls,
the women that are part of the organization that have
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you know, took this eighteen nineteen year old kid to
be a man like those those are real moments, and
those moments are you know, they're not you can't replicate them.
They're they're unique in their moments in that time and
that's what that represents for him. And so seeing it
on the big screen right before a game, powerful man.
And so when he was crying, I was actually hoping
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that he was crying to the point that he would
play bad. Couldn't That was that was the angle I thought.
I think that's the other angle. The Mavericks were trying
to get encompasses well, like have been minutes fielding, so
he doesn't play well. But obviously Luca had a great
game and it was a it was a fun moment
to watch other than the loss.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
Yeah, I do think there's a there was some method
to the madness of if you watch the game, they
played songs all throughout that game. I mean they were
they would never let it die down, because that's where
you would hear the you know fire nicos or you
know Mavericks suck or whatever they might Fans might want
a chant, and fans were serious.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Man. They had some who were in there.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
They couldn't they couldn't bring in signs that would say fire,
Niko or anythink that they would get kicked out. But
people would bring in the F. Then you'd bring in
the I. Then Ryan being in the R and Alex
bringing the E. That's fire, you know what I mean.
And so they would do all that. And and also
the only time you really heard anything was during free throws.
That's the only time arenas are not allowed to play
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music at the free throw line, and that is when
you heard chance fire Nico or you know, Maverick suck
or Luca Luca Luca.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
You know. So it was definitely interesting there.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
But I I mean, I've seen returns, We've all seen
people go back to places. I just had never seen
anything like that where the entire arena was for that player.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
So in turn, they were for.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
The other team, not the initial Yeah we love you
for a minute, Klay Thompson's back in the Golden State cheer,
and then all right, now I'm a Warrior fan. It
was a Laker house throughout the duration of that game.
Laker fans travel you know that, I mean all over
all over the place.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
So no, this was your people. It was your people.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
This was Laker fans traveling, This was kar Rod the roads.
Speaker 5 (27:52):
No, you're right, no, one hundred percent. Some Dallas fans
were definitely wearing Laker jerseys. Yes, that's part of it.
But even when the Lakers would come to Dallas and
in previous seasons, there's gonna be Laker fans in the building, right,
So I just it was a it was a double
team effort.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
It was all Lakers.
Speaker 5 (28:10):
It was a Lakers home game, yes, and I think
it deserved it, to be honest. I mean that trade
as as as crazy as it seems when you see
him coming in the building and playing in Dallas, it
was unique and it was weird.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
So for one night and one night only, it was fine.
It's fine.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
You look tight again, you look like you look like
somebody there you looking like you don't want to vote
for resh c A.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
That's what you're looking, right, We got Hey, it is
what it is. Man.
Speaker 5 (28:41):
I I you know, I hope, I hope, I wish
the wish the best for Luca.
Speaker 6 (28:44):
Man.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
I mean I I feel for him because I know,
I mean, I've been traded, right, I've been traded from
a team that I thought I'd never be traded from
in New York, And.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
So what don't people know about that? Carrie?
Speaker 4 (28:54):
Like, you know we we It's almost like, manuse you know,
people's default answer is what.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Man, shut up?
Speaker 4 (28:58):
You're making millions of dollars year, all right, that's everybody's
default answer. With how we dehumanize athletes or entertainers as
if they don't have a mama, they don't have a wife,
they don't have a dog that they don't have kids
in schools, they don't have best friends, they don't have
neighbors that they become friends with, you know, all all
those good things. You know what, what is something we
don't know that when that happens. It's a couple of things.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
So even just in the Luca trade in general, right,
it's unique in the fact that you got traded to
the Lakers and in the same season you're going back
to play that team in the arena that you were
just in two week three.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Weeks ago, right, Like that's nuts.
Speaker 5 (29:35):
So to say that to think that he's going to
be okay with it, over it in that amount of
time just doesn't make sense. And so you know skip,
you know, go back in time and me being traded
from New York to Arizona. I didn't get to play.
I didn't get to play New York at New York
until like two years later. So the staining's gone a
little bit. But even with the sting being gone, I
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wanted to go in and kill the Jets, right, that's right,
that's just the mentality that athletes have.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
But the sting was gone. It was two years of move.
So just think about that.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
I had to I found out I was traded, not
even through my agent and not through the team, not
through anybody. I saw it on the ESPN and so
I mean I had calls. I just didn't see it.
I didn't have my product with me. I'm watching ESPN.
I see the tickers say.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
No no, no, no, no, no, this jet has flown the coop.
I'm like, what jet?
Speaker 5 (30:20):
And it was me like you know what I mean,
Like people don't understand like we're we're we're humans, And
so you get told that. Now I gotta realize. I
got to figure out I got to sell my house.
Do I keep my house in Jersey, do I sell it.
I gotta find a place to stay in Arizona. I
don't have I can't sleep in my own bed yet
because I don't have a place. I'm staying with Larry
Fitzgerald at the time. Like, it's just so many moving
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parts to it. So it's a lot to get adjusted.
Then you got to go out and perform too.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Man.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
It's hard yep, yeah, so it real quick before we
break Patrick Patterson. We just heard Patrick Peterson getting ready,
you know him obviously talking about the cargos. That's your guy,
just thoughts on his career, is getting ready to call
it called we're hanging him up?
Speaker 3 (30:59):
Oh said he's retiring. Yeah, yeah, he just announced that.
Speaker 5 (31:03):
Yeah, it's it's man, one of the most gifted, gifted
athletes I've played with obviously, I mean one of one of,
and I mean and even more of an athlete than
than than a corner, I mean corner. He played really
well throughout his career, has some good moments, but that's
a pure athlete, man, a really good dude, a really
good leader as well.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
And I wish him well.
Speaker 5 (31:22):
Man, it's time for him to move on and do
something else and I'm excited to see what the next
chapter is here.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
You have it all right, Hey, I want to do
a little music thing. Like I said, Coachella is happening today.
This is first weekend. It's obviously a big festival. And
you're a music person, so I want to throw out
a couple of things. First, go over to line up
there if you're interested in the lineups. And then for Coachella,
and who would be your ultimate headliner? Yeah, I want
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to hear that it is the Odd Couple, Kelvin Washington
carry Rose in for Rob.
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Speaker 4 (32:04):
One more time for the ad Couple Kevin Washington, and
we got Carrie Roose and for Rob. Today, we're coming
to you live from the tire rack dot Com. So so
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Speaker 3 (32:15):
Huh huh.
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Speaker 3 (32:43):
Uh Carrie, so coach teller.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
Hey, the first question is I forgot if you you'd
never been, never been, Nor have I, but I did
think I actually have more shocked that you've never been.
Just knowing your music guy, your colectic taste, you like
all sorts of music, of thought, I thought that'd be
something you're your your bag.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
But why haven't you been? Why why don't you go
just to not just passed it now? Yeah, I'm not
a big crowd guy anymore. Oh yeah, you keep telling
me that maybe I'll remember that one day. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
No, yeah, I just there's too much riff raph for me. Man,
If I got even going into a private section just
to get there to be too much for me. So
I just think it's a little overstimulation for me.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
As it says the guy who's talking to thousands and
thousands of people right now.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
Yeah, but they Yeah, but I'm talking to them, they're
not talking back, so right right right, it's my output,
that little output.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
With that being said, however, you still love music, and uh,
I want you to tell me this lineup but to
interest you any of these artists, and then we're gonna
ask you who would be like who would get?
Speaker 3 (33:42):
All right? You know what?
Speaker 4 (33:43):
I normally don't go, but I'm gonna go because this
team this, I mean, that's team player. Let me start over.
This is sports like a mud This artist, this band
is performing. That's all folks, all right, So Ryan read
some of the artists that are happening, you know, between
today and Sunday.
Speaker 7 (34:01):
Well, tonight Lady Gaga, Missy Elliott Mustard. Some of the
headliners tonight Tomorrow Night is Travis Scott, the original Misfits.
Green Day Wheezer was a surprise edition for Tomorrow on Sunday,
Post Malone, Megan Stallion and a lot of other a
lot of other guys.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
Give me a little bit more. The other ones'll be
just chaboozy, got chaboozy, you got he only got I mean,
I'm only.
Speaker 7 (34:31):
One, yeah, z uh uh uh yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
Ryan's first of all, you're younger than us.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
You're supposed to sound way more hit you over here,
sound like my granddaddy, somebody Carl, Carl Malone, post.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Malone, you want Jack Glam? How about stop ahead? Alex?
Do you know any of these people? Alex? Do you
know any of these I'm just trying to think of
everybody who said, dude, dude, are we all this out
of the loop. I'm definitely at the loop on new artists. Yeah,
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so like the one post Malone.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
No, no, I'm not a post No, I'm not gonna
let you dispect posts like that kind.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
He has to go into a different genre.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
No, listen, I I want to not like post Malone,
but I cannot, okay, because that boy be making some
hits and he got the boys and he's always like
this is it?
Speaker 3 (35:29):
It was White Iverson? How long ago was that? That was?
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Not?
Speaker 3 (35:33):
That was a one in a banker? Carry Yeah, and
don't disrespect that.
Speaker 5 (35:38):
Rock star. What that was a banker? Listen all those
ones you named. I got excited about Missy. Yeah, I mean,
I agree, Missy is iconic. I would I would rock
with a little Green Day and a little Weezer as well.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
Yeah, I have to pick out the certain ones.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
Yeah, buddy Holly, Uh yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
Messed with, like I said, a handful of the people.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
I'm not really obviously, I don't think I'm Meg's target demo,
at least audibly.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
But who would get you out? Carry who? Right now?
Speaker 4 (36:11):
One of your boys called, you know, I'm coming to
La were gon head out to the Coachella the Coachella
Valley and uh, such and such as performing. Who's getting
you out the house?
Speaker 5 (36:20):
There's two artists right now if they were to perform,
I would come out.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
And one of them can't do it because they're not
here with us.
Speaker 5 (36:29):
No, no, give me a living then I'm gonna get
you too. So leta give you two. One one that's
not here and one that's here. Okay, the one that's
not here is Jimmy Hendricks. I would be in the
building the way that he plays guitar right right right out.
I get that. I would have been there for that.
And the other is not even the great singer, but
he's such a great writer and artist. And that's Bob Dylan.
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So those are my two that would get me out
the house to go see Will.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
You talk about two totally different artists? Yes, one would
have been blowing your ear drums out of the guitar,
and the other would just be giving you sometuff to
think about driving home. We get along together. Yeah, I'm
not doing enough of my life. Yeah, that guy I missed.
I missed Outcast. They were like a ten twelve years ago.
Outcast would have gotten me out of the house for sure.
I've seen Jayson. Maybe it's just outcasts at this point,
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I think that might simply be it.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
Carry Man good stuff, Ryan, Alex Fellers.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
Have a great Jason Smith show with Mike Harmon is
coming up next.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
I never miss your radio show.
Speaker 6 (37:25):
I never hear it, so I never miss it.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
Did you hear that