Rob and Kelvin tell is if you can trust past and current NBA players to be objective when it comes to breaking down guys like Tyrese Haliburton and explain why Draymond Green needs a little more self-awareness. Plus, FOX Sports Radio NBA insider Mark Medina swings by to discuss Green’s antics, the biggest reason why the New York Knicks are up 2-0 on the Boston Celtics, if the Oklahoma City Thunder should be considered to be the heavy favorites to come out of the Western Conference and much more!
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thanks for listening to The Odd Couple podcasts. Be sure
to check us out live every weekday from four to
seven pm Pacific seven to ten pm Eastern on Fox
Sports Radio. Find your local station for The Odd Couple
on Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us every
day on the iHeartRadio by searching FSR give this parties.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio our number three. My goodness,
this show is just blowing by. I feel like, uh.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Luka, Doncics out there on defense just blowing by. Okay,
that's a good one. The show gets blue vibby. I mean,
I don't know what's going on. They don't know how
he scored. It is The Odd.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Couple, Rob Parker, Kelvin Washington, right here on Fox Sports Radio,
and right after the show, our podcast will be going up.
Rob g is working on it as we speak. And
if you missed any of today's show, be sure to
listen to the podcast. Just search Odd Couple wherever you
get your podcasts, and be sure to follow and review
the podcast and rate it at least five stars.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
You know what, Kelvin, what's that? We're white it? We
are worth this again.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Just search Odd Couple wherever you get your podcasts and
you'll find today's show and the best version posted right
after we get off there, don't forget coming up in
about twenty eight minutes, Mark Funky Cole Madina, the Fox
Sports Radio NBA Insider, he'll join us as well, talk
some NBA with him with Kelvin's that we're gonna talk
(01:32):
some NBA. Yep, and let's go here, Rob G. Can
you set the table about this? Tyrese Halliburton. There was
a poll, right was that the athletic post was at
that was the athletic player.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
But well, first off, the reason we're talking about it
is because of course the Pacers up to ogetst Cleveland Cavaliers.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
We talked about earlier in this weekend.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Rob Parker found a way to make about Steph Curry
which was impressive even by his standards.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Boy, it was great because that's where we now have
our WAT bubble. It came from that, right, Well, that
was a bad move by me. Yeah, that's what's that
got Thanks.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
So this season, Tyres Halliburton, point guard of the Indiana
Pacers who are currently up to another down now, but
they're up too against Cleveland Cavaliers.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Oh, Cavaliers are putting them on right far.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
He is in the last two minutes of any fourth
quarter overtime on the season, shooting ten for a less
This is including two game winners in the last two
weeks in the postseason, however, you guys alluded to. Near
the end of the season, the regular season, that is,
(02:36):
the Athletic published their annual player poll where they ask
who's the best player, who's the worst player? Bus O
Radi YadA, yad YadA. Most overrated by a considerable margin
was none other than Tyrese Halliburton and uh Rob Parker's
got a big problem with that.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
I do, and I'm gonna do this as a public
service announcement. Turn your radio up, pull them close to you. Okay,
when it comes to hearing about NBA players, is this on?
Do not n ot listen to former players?
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Do not?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
They know the game better than anybody because they're out there.
But guess what, they won't give you an honest opinion.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
They won't.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
They can't.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
They have agendas. You talk about the media have an agendas.
They're friends. They don't want to criticize each other. They'll
go off on people who they don't know even if
it's not factual, you're gonna buy into Shaquille O'Neals, one
of the great basketball players. He puts Steph Courry into
(03:53):
go conversation. Without them, he couldn't even articulate why, because
he can do what I can't do. Exactly like that,
when the NBA allowed players to vote for the All
Star Team, one hundred and twenty players didn't vote.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
For Lebron James.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
How for an exhibition game, Kendrick Perkins said the Joker
was only getting MVPs and votes because he's white.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Has he watched the game? Has he has? He watched
it at all?
Speaker 2 (04:27):
And then the Joker went out that year after he
made a campaign against him, and Joe LMB won the
MVP and then put together one of the greatest postseasons
we've ever seen and he won a championship. This goes
on and on and on. They're not honest with you.
Listen to the podcast. They keep talking the same thing,
(04:51):
and they never pushed back. They let people say whatever
they want. They go and that's the that's what you're
hear in the pocket, like, oh, Okay.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
He said something.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
No, he didn't say anything, Dude, I'm telling you do
they no ball basketball and me on the NB Yes,
because they played in the league. If you want to
get ex'es and o's as the players. If you want
honest opinions about players in the NBA, go elsewhere, Go
to the go to not people who aren't biased. I'm sorry,
(05:31):
I hear it all the time. Their friends, their fraternity brothers,
they have the same representation, their cousins, DAT and their
other like everything, they're in bed with each other. There's
not enough room. They're all in bed together. They can't
be honest with you. I'm telling you, turn it off,
(05:56):
don't listen. It's I just cannot get over it.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Well, I absolutely think there are some who do exactly
what you just said. They're there because they have a name,
because we recognize them from said sport, and they collect
the check.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
However, I don't want to. I'm not gonna rain on
the whole parade.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
I think there are some people that are doing amazing things,
breaking down the game, amazing things, giving insight, amazing things,
giving their opinions. The problem is they're not often the
loudest microphone, right, So sometimes the loudest microphone is the
one that's saying anything that's getting the clickbait, the one
that's doing anything for the likes, and that is now
how they perceive what I have to be. So they
go out and say stuff like yoga shouldn't be VP
(06:37):
because you only get in white votes.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
It's like, all right, dude, have you been watching the game?
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Pretty much after his third year, he's been one of
the best players in the league, if not the best.
You guys are starting to say anything to get anything,
to garnish the followers, to garnish the likes, to get
the notoriety to then create their own platform. That's just
the pathway everybody's doing right now. I don't think that
all of them are. I think there are again some
guys out there doing it right. But specifically when we
(07:01):
talk about Tyreese Halliburton, if I'm just keeping it kind
of on the where we started this, it's not crazy
to think that Tyrese Haliburton was overrated because there was
a lot of concern on where people thought he was
gonna get better. Dearon Fox and him both were really good,
and they're really young, and they became well, who do
you want? You can't keep both of them, so all
(07:24):
of a sudden Tyrese Haliburton goes he gets a huge check,
a max check from Indiana, and you kind of thought,
all right, we're gonna get more from him, and you
didn't for a while, Robin. I think that's why people
were looking saying, all right, if there's a guy that's
savaging like seventeen and at nine, seventeen and ten and
(07:45):
he just got a super max, why am I.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Not getting paid?
Speaker 1 (07:49):
You know, they're looking at the numbers of saying, well,
this guy, what makes him so spectacular? And I think
that played a role into specifically in this instance, why
Tyre's Halliburton. Many people felt that way, you expect more
out of that guy, and then they expect his numbers
to go up. And he has been just extraordinarily consistent eighteen,
(08:10):
twenty one, twenty nineteen assists go from ten, ten, eleven
to nine. That's pretty much what he is, A nineteen
and nine kind of guy. And in today's balloon numbers,
people want to see twenty seven ten.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
I want to see a guy who answers the bell.
And so that's why there's the extra saw.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
This is why I think this what we're seeing from
him was vital because he's going from we know the
name to now he's making some playoff fame and I
think that's up to the Eastern Conference final, right, But
now he's cooking. Now he's making game when it plays.
Now he's the one. And because we're seeing him more
and paying attention more, I think we're acknowledging what he
(08:51):
does more.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
But you're on those those postgame shows, and I get it.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
No, I do disagree with you that. Okay, when you.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Listen to Shack, okay, sometimes you literally.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Like he watched the game? No right, what what alright?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Or if you're working watching the local stuff, Okay, yep,
you know it. I love I turned to watch James
Worthy because he's.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
He's one of the few could keep it real.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
That's why people go look at his YouTube numbers when
they put on for James Worthy. But most of the
guys are too afraid. They don't want to say anything.
Even when we have Eddie House on here. Eddie House,
he's assaulted.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
God mean okay, green yeah, green up pajamas everything, like
he like he's not going to eat green eggs him.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Whatever it takes, right, Like like he still says we
because he played for him. Yeah, he't played for them
in twenty years. He's still saying we because once you
put on that uniform and you don't want to I
said it before, Tiki Barber in New York like like
he's a Giant's mouthpiece. Seriously, and you want to be
invited to the Christmas party, you want the goodie bag,
(09:58):
you want to be invited to the road set right
with the owner. Yes, So you're not gonna be honest,
Tiki Barber. If I'm a Giants fan in New York,
he's not gonna tell me what's going on there.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
He's not.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
And that's what I mean. I think we have a
few who do it right. I just don't think that's
why they hate Charles Hold into the NBA to a
team he will tell. He will tell you how he
feels about Phoenix and he loves he lives in Phoenix,
watches roots for the Suns. He'll even call it my
sons and he'll say my sons are terrible, they're playing
like trash and he needs to go.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
He'll call it how it is.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
How many guys can be on a national broadcast for
a league and say this game is awful.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
I don't even need to do the highlight right, I
wouldn't even watch it for if I was at home.
How many guys would get to do that?
Speaker 1 (10:46):
And the crazy part about it, Rob is you would
think that you would go, oh, it's okay to do that,
because who's more beloved, Who's more you know, a watch
than him when it comes to that, So you would
think that would be something that more people are. I'm
gonn be that brutally, nobody can't be that. Yeah, but
I'm not saying to have the character, the charisma and
the humor. But I'm saying to just simply say, I'm
(11:07):
gonna call it as I see it. So I do
think there are a few handful of people out there
that are trying to do this. But again, I just
think when it comes specifically to Tyre's Halliburton, he kind
of had this. This is his coming out party, and
I think it's done well for him to kind of say, no,
I'm actually better than you think I am. Last point,
specifically with him, I was thinking about this, He's got
(11:27):
a little Steve Nash in them where the numbers are
never gaudy. It's just the way he runs the team
and he gets a bunch of hockey assists and he's
he's changing it to the pace in attempt.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
He's chance to take his team to the easton yep.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
And you have to kind of watch to watch that
to appreciate that, because you can't just check the box
score because you'll go, oh, he had twenty and eight,
that's not crazy. But if you actually watch the games,
you go, oh, he dictated the pace, dictated the speed
of the game. He got the guy who didn't get
assist cause he swung it to him who swung it
to the other guy for three. So he does that
and does that very well. It just doesn't get recognized.
So that's why he got the over run. I mean
(12:01):
the Perkins thing with the djok who was ridiculous, and
I meant what I said about. I do think there's
an element, and I know you hate hearing it, but
you're gonna hear it as long as we're doing the show,
because this is where society is. Me being nuanced, me
being balanced, doesn't do well, doesn't do numbers.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
So I think people it's.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Not about being balanced. I'm not Look, you could have
an opinion, seriously, you can't.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Me we would just talk to you guys are so
I think they're gonna they're looking at SGA. He ain't
better than they're gonna say something crazy, because then you're
gonna be like, all right, wait, hold on what? And
I think guys aren't just being true to what they
really see one because of what you said. Absolutely, I
don't want to diss my old team. I don't want
to upset the fan base. I love it there. I
live there, I visit there in the summer exactly, and
(12:46):
that and that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
So so a lot of times you can't get real
opinions because they're too connected. Oh the agent, Oh that
used to be my coach, he's on the assistant coach
was my coach in college.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Like is, the ties are real, and they don't want
to go back to the country club and see the people.
Hey man, why you crapping on those like that? You
know what Rob g MONTI, Mary even Rump. You know
when you go to like certain fast foodjoints or anywhere,
they got the freestyle? How it that used to be
just like coke, sprite, lemonade, that's it. Now you can
you can create your own drink. You have the movies
(13:19):
that got the freestyle thing. To me, that's where sports
media has become.
Speaker 6 (13:23):
Now.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
It's a freestyle thing where you have to now go
and get and choose what you want. So you want
actual analysts who are breaking down the games, even former
players who are keeping it real, calling it as they
see it. You have that option, but you now have
to do it. It's like music radio. Music radio sucks now,
but you the DJ. You have to be the DJ,
and you can find some hot now man hip hop
(13:45):
is whack. Actually it's not, except you have to go
and do the research and find the good artists now,
as opposed to just turn the radio. So you can't
just turn on the TV and think you're gonna get
great sports analysts. You have to now go find said podcast,
find that particular show like The Odd Couple, and find
these things like a freestyle drink in a movie theater.
You gotta go create it. What do you want, Go
create it, go find it. It's all yours. We have
(14:06):
ample options. You just have to go do it. And
that's what we are now because you can't just click
on the TV and think you're gonna get it.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
I completely agree with that, all right. Eight seven seven
ninety nine on Fox.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
What's your go to, by the way, freestyle drink? Is
it just still die coke? Like, if you go to
the movies, you can get the freestyle.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
I don't do anything else. That's coke? Roger, what's yours?
What's your first? What's yours? I can go Cherry Coke,
Cherry coke? She working, Mary Mack. What you get water
at the movie theater? Yeah? Like, what's your goal to
have the movie theater? So you got candy in her
per Yeah? You bix? Yeah, bigs? NeXT's got any racis what?
That's not racist? I'm not gonna lie. We brought wingstop
(14:42):
to the winkstyle temperware man. Actually yeah, peak black peak black?
Right there? All right?
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven
nine nine six sixty three sixty nine.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Want to hear from you?
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Can you trust past and current NBA players to be
objective when it comes to guys like Tyrese Halliburton. We'll
continue that conversation next with you. It is the Odd
Couple on Fox Sports Radio. On a Funky Flashback Friday,
Rob Parker Kelvin Washington right here on Fox Sports Radio,
Stick and Stay.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
I want to see kissing reporters so they say good
stuff about you on air in the US of A.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple
with Rob Parker and kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm Eastern,
four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
On a fucking flashback Friday, we are the Odd Couple.
Rocket Mortgage is lowering down payments to one percent for
eligible home buyers with one plus And you heard that right,
one percent down on a home with one plus from
Rocket Mortgage. Learn more today at eight hundred and four
Rocket or Rocket dot com. It's Rocket Mortgage, LLC. License
(15:54):
in fifty states, nmlsconsumer access dot Org number thirty thirty.
All right, call about our ex athletes? Can you trust
someonehen it comes to doing sports media? Are they gonna
keep it a buck? Are they gonna keep it real?
So we're asking you eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
We got Daniel in South Carolina.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
You're in the couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up? Daniel?
Speaker 7 (16:19):
Hey, what's happening? Guys?
Speaker 6 (16:20):
Are yall?
Speaker 7 (16:22):
I think, uh, it's just the over inflation, the ego,
you know, when it comes especially with basketball players. I
know Scottie Pippen, you know he always thought he was
you know, I've seen all that stuff. And then like, uh,
I guarantee you if you go and ask Kevin Gardner
or Paul Pierce what they saw the Ray Island, they
brank him like one hundred and third vest right, you.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Know what is another one? Daniel, hang on, don't go anywhere.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
But it's like it's like Paul Pierce saying Lebron James
and it ain't in his top twenty or.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Something like like how can I respect that? Seriously? Daniel?
Speaker 1 (16:57):
You know what I mean, I can't respect that. You
cannot like a guy and keep it a buck.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
You know what I mean? I don't like him, Dude.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
We battled and Lebron James is absolutely top three, top four.
He could have said it like that because maybe he
has respect for Kareem and okay, cool, but it's not
top ten. It's crazy, not top twenty, Like no one
says that, like come on now, yeah, that's why I said,
and we can get some more calls, but that's why
I said.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
It's to me.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Now you have the option to cherry pick, like you
can go find the guys who are actually gonna keep it right.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
And I do like Kevin Garnett.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
I think Kevin Garnett's one of the best you know what,
pot on the podcasters or just analysts right now, just
Kevin Garnett is one of my favor could no, I'm
agree with with eighty five ninety percent of what we're saying.
Kevin Garnett is one of my go tos. I just
like the way he keeps it real and tells great
stories and and just tells where the game is expect him.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
To be journalists.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
But but don't like, don't think I'm a moron, like
like seriously as a consumer, and you think you're pulling
it over the eyes of the fans and that they
don't know what's going on, Like seriously, that's the part
and the same thing for one hundred and twenty NBA
players not to vote for Lebron James and an exhibition
guys craising.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
What does that tell you? That tells you that there's
jealousy and all kinds.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
I'll talk about having an agenda and they say, we
have an agenda. Andre in Massachusetts, you're in the odd
couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
What's up, Dreight, Hey, how.
Speaker 8 (18:22):
You doing well? Listen for me not too much a
fan of players in the broadcast booth making critiques, and
I think it's somewhat generational. I didn't have as much
of a problem and don't have as much of a
problem with people like the late great Bill Walton. I
like what Wolf Frazier does for the Knicks in terms
of their broadcast, but specific to the new place, I
(18:45):
just think here's the thing. You have to be willing
to have takes that are going to pray relationships. It's
a double edged short because a lot of these guys
are proud to be a part of the fraternity of players.
You know, they all they're on the All NBA seventy
five team, so they know these people off the court.
They established those friendships. But we all know what happened
when Charles Barkley had a mild critique of the Charles
(19:06):
Hornets under leadership of friendship calling back to the eighty Okay,
that bridge was burnt instantaneously. You can say the same
thing about Charles Barkley and Dwayne Wade, who as Dwayne
Wade was coming up, coming up, there was a kind
of mentorship relationship and very supportive of Dwayne Wade, but
he had to call it like he saw it, and
when the heat didn't play well, he said it and
then that burned that bridge and then they stopped talking.
(19:28):
So we know, as you said, Rob, they're just all
these professional relationships are on thin ice. And when you
go into that next role of broadcasting and other people
are playing, it just has to be understood that I
have to be objective and I do really I will
call you you know, you do all the journalistic things,
but I have to call it when like I see
it in order to maintain it. And it's just difficult
(19:48):
specifically with this new generation. So bottom line, I think
it's generational. I like more so the older generation who
were more detached, but the newer generation it's just those
lines are blurred and it's difficult. You don't always get
the betake.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
I appreciate Drean, I still I do think too.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
So some of these young folks like like they want
to blow up, So they're coming in hot saying some
stuff that you're like, wait, hold on, what what And
I think they want to blow up with that.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
No, but but it's not about what. It's it's.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
It's being honest. And that's and and and and that's
what I'm talking about, Like like the like the Lebron
James thing, like, seriously, you might, you don't have to like.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Him, but how can I How can I?
Speaker 2 (20:27):
I'm just how can I respect you as a basketball
analyst when you say he's not in the top twenty,
top ten to ten twenty, the all time leading scorer
in the league, and he's won four championships, and you're saying,
how that's crazy?
Speaker 3 (20:43):
How am I supposed to look at you and listen
to anything else? Because now it becomes any other player,
you gotta be for it.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
You're not gonna be honest about any guy that maybe
beat you in a playoffs, gonna be honest with about him?
Speaker 3 (20:53):
What would be the point?
Speaker 2 (20:53):
And that's why you see a revolving door of a
lot of these guys, right because after while, even if
people have hired him, said, this guy says nothing, says nothing.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
All right, let's second now with Monsei to find out
what's trending. Mark Medina on the other side, Hey, Moncy.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in
the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio
dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to
listen live.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Hey, all right, hold when I needed a voice for
mlbbro dot com.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Cause I'll be surprised if you walk these streets and
people come in. Oh my gosh, Oh my gosh. I
listened to MLB bro podcast.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Is that you New Orleans? I heard not a.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Hey, Rogerie, not a single bro ran up on us.
But it was a white lady who ran.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Up on us.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
I love MLB Bro. We were like, am I lyon Rosie?
We were like, oh line, okay, Plinton.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
It was a plan.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
The only thing I will say is I did see
Rob's hand come back like. I don't know if he
slipped her twenty or something.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
I don't know something happened, but that's all I know.
Thank you, MONTI have a great weekend, a great show.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
A little bit later on all right, join now with
Mark Funky Cote Madina, Fox Sports Radio NBA Insider as
we broadcast live from the tire Breck dot com studios.
Speaker 6 (22:12):
What's up, Mark, Calvin, Rob Rob? I got a question
for you. You like these playoffs or I'm sure you have
something wrong to pick a bone about it?
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Right, well, I mean, there have been some really good games,
terrible choke jobs, but but entertaining.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Nonetheless, I'm not how about this.
Speaker 6 (22:29):
The physicality is bad?
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Yeah, I appreciate it a little bit.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Well, well, speaking of that, let's start there, since uh
uh Draymond Green is blamed blaming uh America and being
the angry black man, where he's just going up somebody's upside,
somebody's head, choking. Can people can Draymond stop with this?
I mean, why is this allowed to continue?
Speaker 6 (22:50):
Why it's allowed to continue? It is because Raymond Green
is still important to the Warriors for their success. That's why, bro.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Yeah, but why don't players stop him? I mean what
he did to Rudy Go, I mean, the stuff is
ridiculous that one forever will raise supreme. Have you put
him in a sleeper hole, put him in a sleeper
and none of his teammates socked him?
Speaker 6 (23:08):
Yeah, it's terrible. I think that, you know, the frustration
when the Warriors have with him. It's not enough to
stock him. It's more about the pouting to themselves and
then sometimes having heart to hearts. You know, Steve Kerr
had a heart to heart with him in Game seven
against the Rockets because in Game six he had that
ejection and he owned up to those polities. So here's
(23:28):
usually what happens. Once Draymond crosses a line, he will
own up to it enough to fix it in the
short term. It's just the long term it's never sustainable.
And I think when you're looking at last year, no
one is saying, hey, Draymond, don't be the fiery competitor
and the hard and sold the team still do that,
just don't put a guy in a choke hold, don't
(23:51):
punch a guy in the face. As it pertains to
the Minnesota Timberwolves game yesterday, both things can be true. Yes,
when he was riding the exercise bike on the sideline,
there were racial comments that fans were making the stands.
That's not appropriate, obviously uncalled for, But that doesn't defend
his behavior on the court with the foules Nazrid Okay
(24:15):
basketball play, you know, selling the call, but the reaction
after that, I mean, the officials gave him so much leash.
And so it's a very interesting paradox of Ramon because
I've seen covering him. There are times where his reputation
does take a hit and he isn't given as much
(24:35):
leeway with the officials because he has, you know, tarnished
some of the equity. But then there's other times like
yesterday in a high stakes playoff game, where he's really
pushing the edge and I can't help but think if
it was another player, that player would have been tossed out.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Well, I'll just put a butt on it for me.
We've talked about it.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
I just think using the you know everybody's trying to
pay me on his angry black Man as absolutely dangerous
because there are real instances where people are going through
that on day to day life, and for him to
do that with something that's self inflicted, when you're choking guys,
stumping on some bonus and brought it on yourself, I
just don't like that end of it. Switching gears, though,
I want to go to the series with Boston who
(25:16):
finds himself in a two and o two hol to
the Knicks, even though they've been up twenty twice. Just
your thought of the series and maybe even specifically how
they change you do they just keep going as it
is and say this is who we are and.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
This is what we do.
Speaker 6 (25:30):
Well, there's two things I mean, the next two deserve
CREWD they've been playing.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
They don't quit at all.
Speaker 6 (25:35):
I'm pleasantly surprised because they were good this season, but
their regular season games against the Celis just the Cavaliers.
They weren't even close to either of those opponents. But
the Celtics have gotten in their own way, and I
think the low hanging fruit is Shalen Brown and Jason
Tatum have to show up to perform. I mean, they
haven't shot the ball well at all this series. And
(25:56):
you know, they don't need to make adjustments. They need
their star players to rise the And hear me out
on this. With Jason Tatum, his value isn't always on
the numbers. You know, he has improved as a passer,
improved as a defender. So even if he has games
where he's not having a high scoring load, Okay, that's fine.
They have a lot of offensive depth. But he's got
(26:17):
to shoot the ball with efficiency and he's got to
be aggressive. Good sign that he's at least owning up
to it. Unlike you know the podcast where Lebron James is,
you know, saying, hey, we have eight guys on the floor,
like it's good for a star player to take accountability.
But he's got to do it. And you know, they
were considered one of the favorites to get out of
(26:37):
the East for a reason and now it's put up
for shutup time.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
I agree that podcast again, that was Steve Nash not
pushing you know, he's doing the podcast with Lebron, and
Lebron's talking about, well, there's eight other guys on the team.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
I mean, what about me and Luca?
Speaker 4 (26:52):
What?
Speaker 2 (26:53):
And Steve Nash is sitting there like like golber Pile
from the Andy with a show like you know what.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Like like like what what?
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Like can you say, Lebron, you're one of the greatest
players of all time.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Luca has been out to those exactly you.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Were you were winning in the game, did they like
you got blown out and it was never a contest?
This is what this is My frustration with athletes playing
the roles of reporters, Mark Yeah, is that they don't
push back, they don't follow up questions, they don't make
people explain themselves. For Lebron to say there are eight
(27:33):
other guys on the team?
Speaker 6 (27:35):
Really really one hundred percent rob because what is the
benefit of having these podcasts? Yeah, they can share some
basketball expertise because there's a lot of respect they play
the game, but they're not pressing them when they say
something at landish I would say. The other thing is,
if Lebron James was a reporter like myself, his opinion
(27:57):
is actually right. The team lost the series. The bigger
thing over Lebron and Luca is the fact that they
didn't have defensive depth. Their lack of center position caught
up to them the early you know buzz that they
showed defensively after the Anthony Davis trade, that was fool's gold.
But when you're a leader and a star player of
(28:17):
the team, you don't say those things out loud. What
the media say that if you're a star player of
the team, here's usually the formula. You say you didn't
do enough when they lose, and then when they win
they say, yes, our entire team put in that effort.
It wasn't just me. He reversed that formula the other
way around.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
And lastly for me, at least when we look at
some what OKC is doing. Is this a matter of
the fact that people are saying, hey, have y'all not
seen this is what we did all year? The point
differential all season has been crazy. We'd be good teams,
bad teams, middling teams.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
This is what we do.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
We had a game we should have won game when
we didn't, and then we smacked dever up.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
What do you make of? Ok see and kind of
how we all just kind of going. I gotta see
a deep playoff, Rubbie, believe in them.
Speaker 6 (29:01):
Yeah, I hate to go chalk here, but I think
whoever wins Game three, it will define the series. I
even think whoever wins Game three will win it. But
to your point, I take more validity and the Thunders
blowout game to win over the Nuggets than the nuggets
surprising Game one win over the Thunder. The Nuggets are respectable.
Nicole Jokic MVP can for a reason. The average is
(29:22):
a triple double. They've been resilient, they want to play
well for David Adaman. Jamal Murray has become Jamal Murray again.
But and same thing with Aaron Gordon. But they don't
match up long term with the Thunder. And I think
that when you look at Game one, it was that
common formula in the playoffs of the Rest versus RUSS debate.
I think that the Nuggets you know, were able to
(29:45):
come off the adrenaline rush of a seven game series
against the Clippers. That momentum carried through the Thunder had
a lot of time off. But now I think everything
will settle down and the Thunder will show that they're
the dominant team and they're not. They Oh, we're in experience.
They went through that last year, and roster depth from
top to bottom very complete. Shay is probably gonna win
(30:05):
MVP because he's the best scorer in the league, better passer,
better defender this season, and they have so much wing depth,
Chandelen Williams, Alex Caruso. You go down the line with
other players on that roster, I think Cason Wallace front court,
Isaiah Hartenstein and Chet Holmgreen, great defenders, great pick and
(30:26):
roll partners with Shay. So what I'm getting at is
they have a lot more weapons than the Nuggets, and
we're going to wind up seeing that starting tonight and onward.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
One last thing for me, we got forty five seconds.
I think the.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Celtics should be worried because to me, the Knicks haven't
played a good game yet.
Speaker 7 (30:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
I don't think that they've played.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
A good game, you know, Yeah, and they won that, right,
and they've won two games.
Speaker 6 (30:49):
Mark, Yeah, they should be worried. I would even say
they should be more worried than Cleveland, not just because
Cleveland looks like they're going to win Game three against Indiana,
but some of Cleveland's shortcomings how to do with injuries,
and now they're getting everything back. With Boston, it's been
self inflicted and the Knicks are much more respectable opponents.
So this two to o deficit is very, very real.
(31:12):
And if I had to choose between the two series,
Boston is more likely to lose than Cleveland is likely
to lose.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Well, all right, Mark, Fucky Combedino, appreciate you as always
have a great wing.
Speaker 6 (31:22):
Man, appreciate your shots. A month's a great show coming
up tonight, I hear, yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Never missed that show.
Speaker 6 (31:28):
Oh thank you, Mark, just like Rob never met ten
off of that.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
That's right, y'all. Who owes who? He still owes you?
Eight seven seven.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
That was not even him to come in to give
us cheesecake forks and then I was gonna pay.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
The you got it? Yeah, And that's what it is.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
All right, we'll work it out, Mark eight seven seven
ninety nine, on Fox.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
That's the number to call. We got last call.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
If you'd get to get in you wanted to have
something to say, it is your chance to do so.
It's the aac Cup of Robin Kelvin Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 5 (31:53):
Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in
the nation. Catch all of our shows at Fox sports
Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR
to listen live.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
It is the Odd Couple, Rob and Kelvin on a
fucky flashback Friday. Thank you for hanging out with us
on this Friday as you're getting ready for the weekend.
By the way, before we go forgot shut out to
all the moms out there, Happy Mother's Day to all
of you, Before we forget, Happy Mother's Day to all
of you wonderful mothers out there. You deserve whatever you're
gonna be getting on Sunday. Right now, it's time for
(32:27):
last call. Go all right, last call we got is
sh On from Sacramento. You're in the Odd Couple of
Fox Sports Radio and you are the last call.
Speaker 9 (32:49):
Yeah, my uncle from another mother cousin, Kelly and my
brother's mind the board. First of all, Man, you only
had to cook me like that. You only had to
cook cook me like that on the high seat.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
No, you did your thing, man.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
You know we just had to come wait a good
especially the one you just Isaiah Thomas Shan I would
almost slew up the Sacramento.
Speaker 9 (33:06):
I ain't gonna lie. I'm about to be down there
in La one day to be in the studio with y'all.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Man.
Speaker 9 (33:12):
Hopefully y'all showed me the same grade y'all showed me yesterday.
But look, Draymond, this whole angry black man row team.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
Man.
Speaker 9 (33:20):
Look, we gonna keep a one hundred percent reel up
here inside. We know Draymond pulls this same stuff whenever
Stephan Curry is not in the lineup. Seven out of
fifteen times step has been out due to injury or rejection,
and he has been out the game. What does that
tell me? My man is a bigger batman. I'm sorry,
bigger ribbins to a batman and any other player in
(33:42):
the league, word to land Beer, he cannot do anything
unless steps in the lineup. Stop playing the angry black
man card Man Quinn, using that up, you are doing
a disservice to all of our people. Word to Kelvin,
And the one thing that you need to do, man,
show up when your man is if you really want
to be the second best player on the team and
(34:03):
step up and be that big time that do what
you need to do instead of trying to play that
black card. Man, you're doing everybody else at this service.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Yeah, said Sean, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Yeah, I mean I said it, man, Look and it's
just there's no there's sometimes in life where there's a
gray area right where I don't really I can understand.
I don't see that, but I can. This is the
easiest one, Draymond. You've had locked people, stump people, kick
people like this one ain't hard. Why people think you
have anybody people might be concerned about, I'm dead serious,
why people might be concerned about your anger management, about
(34:37):
taking it too far in the court. Everybody loves tough
everybody and I told you I would love him on
my team. But you can't then also say that you're
shocked when people are talking about you, disappointed or think
there's a concern with you because you're literally choking people,
stumping people and acting dumb.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
That's just not that, dude.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Charles ok And and Robins, you they would lay you
out and be like, yeah, not dumbfound it when it
was like what why what dude? No, you come in
the lane, You're gonna pay.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
For it, and they will be like you got it
all right? Cool.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
He acts as if like he's blown away, that there's
a technical foul or blown away.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
You know what's worse is.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
You know he's he's saying that people may gon have
to be a certain certain kind of way. You've had
two of his peers, one of them a former team
m Kevin Durant like, gay, man, I don't know what's
going on with that guy.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
There's something going on emotion. You gotta worry about it.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
And then you had Joseph Nurkic, who is a clutch
sports Clint know about clutch sports. All those guys hang
out together, they're all friends with each other. He's like, hey,
that brother needs help.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
Draymond, rather than accepting that in a certain way, says,
who are you to be saying that kind of stuff
about me?
Speaker 3 (35:40):
You must not be a real friend.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
If you're gonna say in the media, no, I was
not a trip, But go on his podcast and say
whatever you want.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
If everybody keeps saying you crazy, Maybe you are because
if everybody's saying it, you know what I mean, if
everybody's like, man, I'm just saying bro, it might want
to cool it off a little bit.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
It ain't us at some point, Draymond.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
And if your front can't tell you, nobody can. Supposedly,
if that's your friend, they tell you.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
Look, I'm being real with you, brother, what's concern here?
We might need check?
Speaker 7 (36:07):
You know what?
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Michael Jackson said.
Speaker 6 (36:10):
The man.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Yeah, he said it way better than you. Michael. I
got to hear all your songs. Well, all I'm gonna
say is happy Mother's Day. My mom has passed. One
of the sweetest women. Oh my god. We'll think about
that woman, Mary Parker.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
You can honor her
Thanks for listening to The Odd Couple podcasts. Be sure
to check us out live every weekday from four to
seven pm Pacific seven to ten pm Eastern on Fox
Sports Radio. Find your local station for The Odd Couple
on Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us every
day on the iHeartRadio by searching FSR give this parties.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio our number three. My goodness,
this show is just blowing by. I feel like, uh.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Luka, Doncics out there on defense just blowing by. Okay,
that's a good one. The show gets blue vibby. I mean,
I don't know what's going on. They don't know how
he scored. It is The Odd.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Couple, Rob Parker, Kelvin Washington, right here on Fox Sports Radio,
and right after the show, our podcast will be going up.
Rob g is working on it as we speak. And
if you missed any of today's show, be sure to
listen to the podcast. Just search Odd Couple wherever you
get your podcasts, and be sure to follow and review
the podcast and rate it at least five stars.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
You know what, Kelvin, what's that? We're white it? We
are worth this again.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Just search Odd Couple wherever you get your podcasts and
you'll find today's show and the best version posted right
after we get off there, don't forget coming up in
about twenty eight minutes, Mark Funky Cole Madina, the Fox
Sports Radio NBA Insider, he'll join us as well, talk
some NBA with him with Kelvin's that we're gonna talk
(01:32):
some NBA. Yep, and let's go here, Rob G. Can
you set the table about this? Tyrese Halliburton. There was
a poll, right was that the athletic post was at
that was the athletic player.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
But well, first off, the reason we're talking about it
is because of course the Pacers up to ogetst Cleveland Cavaliers.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
We talked about earlier in this weekend.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Rob Parker found a way to make about Steph Curry
which was impressive even by his standards.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Boy, it was great because that's where we now have
our WAT bubble. It came from that, right, Well, that
was a bad move by me. Yeah, that's what's that
got Thanks.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
So this season, Tyres Halliburton, point guard of the Indiana
Pacers who are currently up to another down now, but
they're up too against Cleveland Cavaliers.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Oh, Cavaliers are putting them on right far.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
He is in the last two minutes of any fourth
quarter overtime on the season, shooting ten for a less
This is including two game winners in the last two
weeks in the postseason, however, you guys alluded to. Near
the end of the season, the regular season, that is,
(02:36):
the Athletic published their annual player poll where they ask
who's the best player, who's the worst player? Bus O
Radi YadA, yad YadA. Most overrated by a considerable margin
was none other than Tyrese Halliburton and uh Rob Parker's
got a big problem with that.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
I do, and I'm gonna do this as a public
service announcement. Turn your radio up, pull them close to you. Okay,
when it comes to hearing about NBA players, is this on?
Do not n ot listen to former players?
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Do not?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
They know the game better than anybody because they're out there.
But guess what, they won't give you an honest opinion.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
They won't.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
They can't.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
They have agendas. You talk about the media have an agendas.
They're friends. They don't want to criticize each other. They'll
go off on people who they don't know even if
it's not factual, you're gonna buy into Shaquille O'Neals, one
of the great basketball players. He puts Steph Courry into
(03:53):
go conversation. Without them, he couldn't even articulate why, because
he can do what I can't do. Exactly like that,
when the NBA allowed players to vote for the All
Star Team, one hundred and twenty players didn't vote.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
For Lebron James.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
How for an exhibition game, Kendrick Perkins said the Joker
was only getting MVPs and votes because he's white.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Has he watched the game? Has he has? He watched
it at all?
Speaker 2 (04:27):
And then the Joker went out that year after he
made a campaign against him, and Joe LMB won the
MVP and then put together one of the greatest postseasons
we've ever seen and he won a championship. This goes
on and on and on. They're not honest with you.
Listen to the podcast. They keep talking the same thing,
(04:51):
and they never pushed back. They let people say whatever
they want. They go and that's the that's what you're
hear in the pocket, like, oh, Okay.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
He said something.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
No, he didn't say anything, Dude, I'm telling you do
they no ball basketball and me on the NB Yes,
because they played in the league. If you want to
get ex'es and o's as the players. If you want
honest opinions about players in the NBA, go elsewhere, Go
to the go to not people who aren't biased. I'm sorry,
(05:31):
I hear it all the time. Their friends, their fraternity brothers,
they have the same representation, their cousins, DAT and their
other like everything, they're in bed with each other. There's
not enough room. They're all in bed together. They can't
be honest with you. I'm telling you, turn it off,
(05:56):
don't listen. It's I just cannot get over it.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Well, I absolutely think there are some who do exactly
what you just said. They're there because they have a name,
because we recognize them from said sport, and they collect
the check.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
However, I don't want to. I'm not gonna rain on
the whole parade.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
I think there are some people that are doing amazing things,
breaking down the game, amazing things, giving insight, amazing things,
giving their opinions. The problem is they're not often the
loudest microphone, right, So sometimes the loudest microphone is the
one that's saying anything that's getting the clickbait, the one
that's doing anything for the likes, and that is now
how they perceive what I have to be. So they
go out and say stuff like yoga shouldn't be VP
(06:37):
because you only get in white votes.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
It's like, all right, dude, have you been watching the game?
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Pretty much after his third year, he's been one of
the best players in the league, if not the best.
You guys are starting to say anything to get anything,
to garnish the followers, to garnish the likes, to get
the notoriety to then create their own platform. That's just
the pathway everybody's doing right now. I don't think that
all of them are. I think there are again some
guys out there doing it right. But specifically when we
(07:01):
talk about Tyreese Halliburton, if I'm just keeping it kind
of on the where we started this, it's not crazy
to think that Tyrese Haliburton was overrated because there was
a lot of concern on where people thought he was
gonna get better. Dearon Fox and him both were really good,
and they're really young, and they became well, who do
you want? You can't keep both of them, so all
(07:24):
of a sudden Tyrese Haliburton goes he gets a huge check,
a max check from Indiana, and you kind of thought,
all right, we're gonna get more from him, and you
didn't for a while, Robin. I think that's why people
were looking saying, all right, if there's a guy that's
savaging like seventeen and at nine, seventeen and ten and
(07:45):
he just got a super max, why am I.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Not getting paid?
Speaker 1 (07:49):
You know, they're looking at the numbers of saying, well,
this guy, what makes him so spectacular? And I think
that played a role into specifically in this instance, why
Tyre's Halliburton. Many people felt that way, you expect more
out of that guy, and then they expect his numbers
to go up. And he has been just extraordinarily consistent eighteen,
(08:10):
twenty one, twenty nineteen assists go from ten, ten, eleven
to nine. That's pretty much what he is, A nineteen
and nine kind of guy. And in today's balloon numbers,
people want to see twenty seven ten.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
I want to see a guy who answers the bell.
And so that's why there's the extra saw.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
This is why I think this what we're seeing from
him was vital because he's going from we know the
name to now he's making some playoff fame and I
think that's up to the Eastern Conference final, right, But
now he's cooking. Now he's making game when it plays.
Now he's the one. And because we're seeing him more
and paying attention more, I think we're acknowledging what he
(08:51):
does more.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
But you're on those those postgame shows, and I get it.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
No, I do disagree with you that. Okay, when you.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Listen to Shack, okay, sometimes you literally.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Like he watched the game? No right, what what alright?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Or if you're working watching the local stuff, Okay, yep,
you know it. I love I turned to watch James
Worthy because he's.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
He's one of the few could keep it real.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
That's why people go look at his YouTube numbers when
they put on for James Worthy. But most of the
guys are too afraid. They don't want to say anything.
Even when we have Eddie House on here. Eddie House,
he's assaulted.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
God mean okay, green yeah, green up pajamas everything, like
he like he's not going to eat green eggs him.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Whatever it takes, right, Like like he still says we
because he played for him. Yeah, he't played for them
in twenty years. He's still saying we because once you
put on that uniform and you don't want to I
said it before, Tiki Barber in New York like like
he's a Giant's mouthpiece. Seriously, and you want to be
invited to the Christmas party, you want the goodie bag,
(09:58):
you want to be invited to the road set right
with the owner. Yes, So you're not gonna be honest,
Tiki Barber. If I'm a Giants fan in New York,
he's not gonna tell me what's going on there.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
He's not.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
And that's what I mean. I think we have a
few who do it right. I just don't think that's
why they hate Charles Hold into the NBA to a
team he will tell. He will tell you how he
feels about Phoenix and he loves he lives in Phoenix,
watches roots for the Suns. He'll even call it my
sons and he'll say my sons are terrible, they're playing
like trash and he needs to go.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
He'll call it how it is.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
How many guys can be on a national broadcast for
a league and say this game is awful.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
I don't even need to do the highlight right, I
wouldn't even watch it for if I was at home.
How many guys would get to do that?
Speaker 1 (10:46):
And the crazy part about it, Rob is you would
think that you would go, oh, it's okay to do that,
because who's more beloved, Who's more you know, a watch
than him when it comes to that, So you would
think that would be something that more people are. I'm
gonn be that brutally, nobody can't be that. Yeah, but
I'm not saying to have the character, the charisma and
the humor. But I'm saying to just simply say, I'm
(11:07):
gonna call it as I see it. So I do
think there are a few handful of people out there
that are trying to do this. But again, I just
think when it comes specifically to Tyre's Halliburton, he kind
of had this. This is his coming out party, and
I think it's done well for him to kind of say, no,
I'm actually better than you think I am. Last point,
specifically with him, I was thinking about this, He's got
(11:27):
a little Steve Nash in them where the numbers are
never gaudy. It's just the way he runs the team
and he gets a bunch of hockey assists and he's
he's changing it to the pace in attempt.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
He's chance to take his team to the easton yep.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
And you have to kind of watch to watch that
to appreciate that, because you can't just check the box
score because you'll go, oh, he had twenty and eight,
that's not crazy. But if you actually watch the games,
you go, oh, he dictated the pace, dictated the speed
of the game. He got the guy who didn't get
assist cause he swung it to him who swung it
to the other guy for three. So he does that
and does that very well. It just doesn't get recognized.
So that's why he got the over run. I mean
(12:01):
the Perkins thing with the djok who was ridiculous, and
I meant what I said about. I do think there's
an element, and I know you hate hearing it, but
you're gonna hear it as long as we're doing the show,
because this is where society is. Me being nuanced, me
being balanced, doesn't do well, doesn't do numbers.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
So I think people it's.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Not about being balanced. I'm not Look, you could have
an opinion, seriously, you can't.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Me we would just talk to you guys are so
I think they're gonna they're looking at SGA. He ain't
better than they're gonna say something crazy, because then you're
gonna be like, all right, wait, hold on what? And
I think guys aren't just being true to what they
really see one because of what you said. Absolutely, I
don't want to diss my old team. I don't want
to upset the fan base. I love it there. I
live there, I visit there in the summer exactly, and
(12:46):
that and that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
So so a lot of times you can't get real
opinions because they're too connected. Oh the agent, Oh that
used to be my coach, he's on the assistant coach
was my coach in college.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Like is, the ties are real, and they don't want
to go back to the country club and see the people.
Hey man, why you crapping on those like that? You
know what Rob g MONTI, Mary even Rump. You know
when you go to like certain fast foodjoints or anywhere,
they got the freestyle? How it that used to be
just like coke, sprite, lemonade, that's it. Now you can
you can create your own drink. You have the movies
(13:19):
that got the freestyle thing. To me, that's where sports
media has become.
Speaker 6 (13:23):
Now.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
It's a freestyle thing where you have to now go
and get and choose what you want. So you want
actual analysts who are breaking down the games, even former
players who are keeping it real, calling it as they
see it. You have that option, but you now have
to do it. It's like music radio. Music radio sucks now,
but you the DJ. You have to be the DJ,
and you can find some hot now man hip hop
(13:45):
is whack. Actually it's not, except you have to go
and do the research and find the good artists now,
as opposed to just turn the radio. So you can't
just turn on the TV and think you're gonna get
great sports analysts. You have to now go find said podcast,
find that particular show like The Odd Couple, and find
these things like a freestyle drink in a movie theater.
You gotta go create it. What do you want, Go
create it, go find it. It's all yours. We have
(14:06):
ample options. You just have to go do it. And
that's what we are now because you can't just click
on the TV and think you're gonna get it.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
I completely agree with that, all right. Eight seven seven
ninety nine on Fox.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
What's your go to, by the way, freestyle drink? Is
it just still die coke? Like, if you go to
the movies, you can get the freestyle.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
I don't do anything else. That's coke? Roger, what's yours?
What's your first? What's yours? I can go Cherry Coke,
Cherry coke? She working, Mary Mack. What you get water
at the movie theater? Yeah? Like, what's your goal to
have the movie theater? So you got candy in her
per Yeah? You bix? Yeah, bigs? NeXT's got any racis what?
That's not racist? I'm not gonna lie. We brought wingstop
(14:42):
to the winkstyle temperware man. Actually yeah, peak black peak black?
Right there? All right?
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven
nine nine six sixty three sixty nine.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Want to hear from you?
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Can you trust past and current NBA players to be
objective when it comes to guys like Tyrese Halliburton. We'll
continue that conversation next with you. It is the Odd
Couple on Fox Sports Radio. On a Funky Flashback Friday,
Rob Parker Kelvin Washington right here on Fox Sports Radio,
Stick and Stay.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
I want to see kissing reporters so they say good
stuff about you on air in the US of A.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple
with Rob Parker and kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm Eastern,
four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
On a fucking flashback Friday, we are the Odd Couple.
Rocket Mortgage is lowering down payments to one percent for
eligible home buyers with one plus And you heard that right,
one percent down on a home with one plus from
Rocket Mortgage. Learn more today at eight hundred and four
Rocket or Rocket dot com. It's Rocket Mortgage, LLC. License
(15:54):
in fifty states, nmlsconsumer access dot Org number thirty thirty.
All right, call about our ex athletes? Can you trust
someonehen it comes to doing sports media? Are they gonna
keep it a buck? Are they gonna keep it real?
So we're asking you eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
We got Daniel in South Carolina.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
You're in the couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up? Daniel?
Speaker 7 (16:19):
Hey, what's happening? Guys?
Speaker 6 (16:20):
Are yall?
Speaker 7 (16:22):
I think, uh, it's just the over inflation, the ego,
you know, when it comes especially with basketball players. I
know Scottie Pippen, you know he always thought he was
you know, I've seen all that stuff. And then like, uh,
I guarantee you if you go and ask Kevin Gardner
or Paul Pierce what they saw the Ray Island, they
brank him like one hundred and third vest right, you.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Know what is another one? Daniel, hang on, don't go anywhere.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
But it's like it's like Paul Pierce saying Lebron James
and it ain't in his top twenty or.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Something like like how can I respect that? Seriously? Daniel?
Speaker 1 (16:57):
You know what I mean, I can't respect that. You
cannot like a guy and keep it a buck.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
You know what I mean? I don't like him, Dude.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
We battled and Lebron James is absolutely top three, top four.
He could have said it like that because maybe he
has respect for Kareem and okay, cool, but it's not
top ten. It's crazy, not top twenty, Like no one
says that, like come on now, yeah, that's why I said,
and we can get some more calls, but that's why
I said.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
It's to me.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Now you have the option to cherry pick, like you
can go find the guys who are actually gonna keep it right.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
And I do like Kevin Garnett.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
I think Kevin Garnett's one of the best you know what,
pot on the podcasters or just analysts right now, just
Kevin Garnett is one of my favor could no, I'm
agree with with eighty five ninety percent of what we're saying.
Kevin Garnett is one of my go tos. I just
like the way he keeps it real and tells great
stories and and just tells where the game is expect him.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
To be journalists.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
But but don't like, don't think I'm a moron, like
like seriously as a consumer, and you think you're pulling
it over the eyes of the fans and that they
don't know what's going on, Like seriously, that's the part
and the same thing for one hundred and twenty NBA
players not to vote for Lebron James and an exhibition
guys craising.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
What does that tell you? That tells you that there's
jealousy and all kinds.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
I'll talk about having an agenda and they say, we
have an agenda. Andre in Massachusetts, you're in the odd
couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
What's up, Dreight, Hey, how.
Speaker 8 (18:22):
You doing well? Listen for me not too much a
fan of players in the broadcast booth making critiques, and
I think it's somewhat generational. I didn't have as much
of a problem and don't have as much of a
problem with people like the late great Bill Walton. I
like what Wolf Frazier does for the Knicks in terms
of their broadcast, but specific to the new place, I
(18:45):
just think here's the thing. You have to be willing
to have takes that are going to pray relationships. It's
a double edged short because a lot of these guys
are proud to be a part of the fraternity of players.
You know, they all they're on the All NBA seventy
five team, so they know these people off the court.
They established those friendships. But we all know what happened
when Charles Barkley had a mild critique of the Charles
(19:06):
Hornets under leadership of friendship calling back to the eighty Okay,
that bridge was burnt instantaneously. You can say the same
thing about Charles Barkley and Dwayne Wade, who as Dwayne
Wade was coming up, coming up, there was a kind
of mentorship relationship and very supportive of Dwayne Wade, but
he had to call it like he saw it, and
when the heat didn't play well, he said it and
then that burned that bridge and then they stopped talking.
(19:28):
So we know, as you said, Rob, they're just all
these professional relationships are on thin ice. And when you
go into that next role of broadcasting and other people
are playing, it just has to be understood that I
have to be objective and I do really I will
call you you know, you do all the journalistic things,
but I have to call it when like I see
it in order to maintain it. And it's just difficult
(19:48):
specifically with this new generation. So bottom line, I think
it's generational. I like more so the older generation who
were more detached, but the newer generation it's just those
lines are blurred and it's difficult. You don't always get
the betake.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
I appreciate Drean, I still I do think too.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
So some of these young folks like like they want
to blow up, So they're coming in hot saying some
stuff that you're like, wait, hold on, what what And
I think they want to blow up with that.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
No, but but it's not about what. It's it's.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
It's being honest. And that's and and and and that's
what I'm talking about, Like like the like the Lebron
James thing, like, seriously, you might, you don't have to like.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Him, but how can I How can I?
Speaker 2 (20:27):
I'm just how can I respect you as a basketball
analyst when you say he's not in the top twenty,
top ten to ten twenty, the all time leading scorer
in the league, and he's won four championships, and you're saying,
how that's crazy?
Speaker 3 (20:43):
How am I supposed to look at you and listen
to anything else? Because now it becomes any other player,
you gotta be for it.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
You're not gonna be honest about any guy that maybe
beat you in a playoffs, gonna be honest with about him?
Speaker 3 (20:53):
What would be the point?
Speaker 2 (20:53):
And that's why you see a revolving door of a
lot of these guys, right because after while, even if
people have hired him, said, this guy says nothing, says nothing.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
All right, let's second now with Monsei to find out
what's trending. Mark Medina on the other side, Hey, Moncy.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in
the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio
dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to
listen live.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Hey, all right, hold when I needed a voice for
mlbbro dot com.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Cause I'll be surprised if you walk these streets and
people come in. Oh my gosh, Oh my gosh. I
listened to MLB bro podcast.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Is that you New Orleans? I heard not a.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Hey, Rogerie, not a single bro ran up on us.
But it was a white lady who ran.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Up on us.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
I love MLB Bro. We were like, am I lyon Rosie?
We were like, oh line, okay, Plinton.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
It was a plan.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
The only thing I will say is I did see
Rob's hand come back like. I don't know if he
slipped her twenty or something.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
I don't know something happened, but that's all I know.
Thank you, MONTI have a great weekend, a great show.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
A little bit later on all right, join now with
Mark Funky Cote Madina, Fox Sports Radio NBA Insider as
we broadcast live from the tire Breck dot com studios.
Speaker 6 (22:12):
What's up, Mark, Calvin, Rob Rob? I got a question
for you. You like these playoffs or I'm sure you have
something wrong to pick a bone about it?
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Right, well, I mean, there have been some really good games,
terrible choke jobs, but but entertaining.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Nonetheless, I'm not how about this.
Speaker 6 (22:29):
The physicality is bad?
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Yeah, I appreciate it a little bit.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Well, well, speaking of that, let's start there, since uh
uh Draymond Green is blamed blaming uh America and being
the angry black man, where he's just going up somebody's upside,
somebody's head, choking. Can people can Draymond stop with this?
I mean, why is this allowed to continue?
Speaker 6 (22:50):
Why it's allowed to continue? It is because Raymond Green
is still important to the Warriors for their success. That's why, bro.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Yeah, but why don't players stop him? I mean what
he did to Rudy Go, I mean, the stuff is
ridiculous that one forever will raise supreme. Have you put
him in a sleeper hole, put him in a sleeper
and none of his teammates socked him?
Speaker 6 (23:08):
Yeah, it's terrible. I think that, you know, the frustration
when the Warriors have with him. It's not enough to
stock him. It's more about the pouting to themselves and
then sometimes having heart to hearts. You know, Steve Kerr
had a heart to heart with him in Game seven
against the Rockets because in Game six he had that
ejection and he owned up to those polities. So here's
(23:28):
usually what happens. Once Draymond crosses a line, he will
own up to it enough to fix it in the
short term. It's just the long term it's never sustainable.
And I think when you're looking at last year, no
one is saying, hey, Draymond, don't be the fiery competitor
and the hard and sold the team still do that,
just don't put a guy in a choke hold, don't
(23:51):
punch a guy in the face. As it pertains to
the Minnesota Timberwolves game yesterday, both things can be true. Yes,
when he was riding the exercise bike on the sideline,
there were racial comments that fans were making the stands.
That's not appropriate, obviously uncalled for, But that doesn't defend
his behavior on the court with the foules Nazrid Okay
(24:15):
basketball play, you know, selling the call, but the reaction
after that, I mean, the officials gave him so much leash.
And so it's a very interesting paradox of Ramon because
I've seen covering him. There are times where his reputation
does take a hit and he isn't given as much
(24:35):
leeway with the officials because he has, you know, tarnished
some of the equity. But then there's other times like
yesterday in a high stakes playoff game, where he's really
pushing the edge and I can't help but think if
it was another player, that player would have been tossed out.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Well, I'll just put a butt on it for me.
We've talked about it.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
I just think using the you know everybody's trying to
pay me on his angry black Man as absolutely dangerous
because there are real instances where people are going through
that on day to day life, and for him to
do that with something that's self inflicted, when you're choking guys,
stumping on some bonus and brought it on yourself, I
just don't like that end of it. Switching gears, though,
I want to go to the series with Boston who
(25:16):
finds himself in a two and o two hol to
the Knicks, even though they've been up twenty twice. Just
your thought of the series and maybe even specifically how
they change you do they just keep going as it
is and say this is who we are and.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
This is what we do.
Speaker 6 (25:30):
Well, there's two things I mean, the next two deserve
CREWD they've been playing.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
They don't quit at all.
Speaker 6 (25:35):
I'm pleasantly surprised because they were good this season, but
their regular season games against the Celis just the Cavaliers.
They weren't even close to either of those opponents. But
the Celtics have gotten in their own way, and I
think the low hanging fruit is Shalen Brown and Jason
Tatum have to show up to perform. I mean, they
haven't shot the ball well at all this series. And
(25:56):
you know, they don't need to make adjustments. They need
their star players to rise the And hear me out
on this. With Jason Tatum, his value isn't always on
the numbers. You know, he has improved as a passer,
improved as a defender. So even if he has games
where he's not having a high scoring load, Okay, that's fine.
They have a lot of offensive depth. But he's got
(26:17):
to shoot the ball with efficiency and he's got to
be aggressive. Good sign that he's at least owning up
to it. Unlike you know the podcast where Lebron James is,
you know, saying, hey, we have eight guys on the floor,
like it's good for a star player to take accountability.
But he's got to do it. And you know, they
were considered one of the favorites to get out of
(26:37):
the East for a reason and now it's put up
for shutup time.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
I agree that podcast again, that was Steve Nash not
pushing you know, he's doing the podcast with Lebron, and
Lebron's talking about, well, there's eight other guys on the team.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
I mean, what about me and Luca?
Speaker 4 (26:52):
What?
Speaker 2 (26:53):
And Steve Nash is sitting there like like golber Pile
from the Andy with a show like you know what.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Like like like what what?
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Like can you say, Lebron, you're one of the greatest
players of all time.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Luca has been out to those exactly you.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Were you were winning in the game, did they like
you got blown out and it was never a contest?
This is what this is My frustration with athletes playing
the roles of reporters, Mark Yeah, is that they don't
push back, they don't follow up questions, they don't make
people explain themselves. For Lebron to say there are eight
(27:33):
other guys on the team?
Speaker 6 (27:35):
Really really one hundred percent rob because what is the
benefit of having these podcasts? Yeah, they can share some
basketball expertise because there's a lot of respect they play
the game, but they're not pressing them when they say
something at landish I would say. The other thing is,
if Lebron James was a reporter like myself, his opinion
(27:57):
is actually right. The team lost the series. The bigger
thing over Lebron and Luca is the fact that they
didn't have defensive depth. Their lack of center position caught
up to them the early you know buzz that they
showed defensively after the Anthony Davis trade, that was fool's gold.
But when you're a leader and a star player of
(28:17):
the team, you don't say those things out loud. What
the media say that if you're a star player of
the team, here's usually the formula. You say you didn't
do enough when they lose, and then when they win
they say, yes, our entire team put in that effort.
It wasn't just me. He reversed that formula the other
way around.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
And lastly for me, at least when we look at
some what OKC is doing. Is this a matter of
the fact that people are saying, hey, have y'all not
seen this is what we did all year? The point
differential all season has been crazy. We'd be good teams,
bad teams, middling teams.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
This is what we do.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
We had a game we should have won game when
we didn't, and then we smacked dever up.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
What do you make of? Ok see and kind of
how we all just kind of going. I gotta see
a deep playoff, Rubbie, believe in them.
Speaker 6 (29:01):
Yeah, I hate to go chalk here, but I think
whoever wins Game three, it will define the series. I
even think whoever wins Game three will win it. But
to your point, I take more validity and the Thunders
blowout game to win over the Nuggets than the nuggets
surprising Game one win over the Thunder. The Nuggets are respectable.
Nicole Jokic MVP can for a reason. The average is
(29:22):
a triple double. They've been resilient, they want to play
well for David Adaman. Jamal Murray has become Jamal Murray again.
But and same thing with Aaron Gordon. But they don't
match up long term with the Thunder. And I think
that when you look at Game one, it was that
common formula in the playoffs of the Rest versus RUSS debate.
I think that the Nuggets you know, were able to
(29:45):
come off the adrenaline rush of a seven game series
against the Clippers. That momentum carried through the Thunder had
a lot of time off. But now I think everything
will settle down and the Thunder will show that they're
the dominant team and they're not. They Oh, we're in experience.
They went through that last year, and roster depth from
top to bottom very complete. Shay is probably gonna win
(30:05):
MVP because he's the best scorer in the league, better passer,
better defender this season, and they have so much wing depth,
Chandelen Williams, Alex Caruso. You go down the line with
other players on that roster, I think Cason Wallace front court,
Isaiah Hartenstein and Chet Holmgreen, great defenders, great pick and
(30:26):
roll partners with Shay. So what I'm getting at is
they have a lot more weapons than the Nuggets, and
we're going to wind up seeing that starting tonight and onward.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
One last thing for me, we got forty five seconds.
I think the.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Celtics should be worried because to me, the Knicks haven't
played a good game yet.
Speaker 7 (30:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
I don't think that they've played.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
A good game, you know, Yeah, and they won that, right,
and they've won two games.
Speaker 6 (30:49):
Mark, Yeah, they should be worried. I would even say
they should be more worried than Cleveland, not just because
Cleveland looks like they're going to win Game three against Indiana,
but some of Cleveland's shortcomings how to do with injuries,
and now they're getting everything back. With Boston, it's been
self inflicted and the Knicks are much more respectable opponents.
So this two to o deficit is very, very real.
(31:12):
And if I had to choose between the two series,
Boston is more likely to lose than Cleveland is likely
to lose.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Well, all right, Mark, Fucky Combedino, appreciate you as always
have a great wing.
Speaker 6 (31:22):
Man, appreciate your shots. A month's a great show coming
up tonight, I hear, yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Never missed that show.
Speaker 6 (31:28):
Oh thank you, Mark, just like Rob never met ten
off of that.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
That's right, y'all. Who owes who? He still owes you?
Eight seven seven.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
That was not even him to come in to give
us cheesecake forks and then I was gonna pay.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
The you got it? Yeah, And that's what it is.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
All right, we'll work it out, Mark eight seven seven
ninety nine, on Fox.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
That's the number to call. We got last call.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
If you'd get to get in you wanted to have
something to say, it is your chance to do so.
It's the aac Cup of Robin Kelvin Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 5 (31:53):
Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in
the nation. Catch all of our shows at Fox sports
Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR
to listen live.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
It is the Odd Couple, Rob and Kelvin on a
fucky flashback Friday. Thank you for hanging out with us
on this Friday as you're getting ready for the weekend.
By the way, before we go forgot shut out to
all the moms out there, Happy Mother's Day to all
of you, Before we forget, Happy Mother's Day to all
of you wonderful mothers out there. You deserve whatever you're
gonna be getting on Sunday. Right now, it's time for
(32:27):
last call. Go all right, last call we got is
sh On from Sacramento. You're in the Odd Couple of
Fox Sports Radio and you are the last call.
Speaker 9 (32:49):
Yeah, my uncle from another mother cousin, Kelly and my
brother's mind the board. First of all, Man, you only
had to cook me like that. You only had to
cook cook me like that on the high seat.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
No, you did your thing, man.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
You know we just had to come wait a good
especially the one you just Isaiah Thomas Shan I would
almost slew up the Sacramento.
Speaker 9 (33:06):
I ain't gonna lie. I'm about to be down there
in La one day to be in the studio with y'all.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Man.
Speaker 9 (33:12):
Hopefully y'all showed me the same grade y'all showed me yesterday.
But look, Draymond, this whole angry black man row team.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
Man.
Speaker 9 (33:20):
Look, we gonna keep a one hundred percent reel up
here inside. We know Draymond pulls this same stuff whenever
Stephan Curry is not in the lineup. Seven out of
fifteen times step has been out due to injury or rejection,
and he has been out the game. What does that
tell me? My man is a bigger batman. I'm sorry,
bigger ribbins to a batman and any other player in
(33:42):
the league, word to land Beer, he cannot do anything
unless steps in the lineup. Stop playing the angry black
man card Man Quinn, using that up, you are doing
a disservice to all of our people. Word to Kelvin,
And the one thing that you need to do, man,
show up when your man is if you really want
to be the second best player on the team and
(34:03):
step up and be that big time that do what
you need to do instead of trying to play that
black card. Man, you're doing everybody else at this service.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Yeah, said Sean, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Yeah, I mean I said it, man, Look and it's
just there's no there's sometimes in life where there's a
gray area right where I don't really I can understand.
I don't see that, but I can. This is the
easiest one, Draymond. You've had locked people, stump people, kick
people like this one ain't hard. Why people think you
have anybody people might be concerned about, I'm dead serious,
why people might be concerned about your anger management, about
(34:37):
taking it too far in the court. Everybody loves tough
everybody and I told you I would love him on
my team. But you can't then also say that you're
shocked when people are talking about you, disappointed or think
there's a concern with you because you're literally choking people,
stumping people and acting dumb.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
That's just not that, dude.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Charles ok And and Robins, you they would lay you
out and be like, yeah, not dumbfound it when it
was like what why what dude? No, you come in
the lane, You're gonna pay.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
For it, and they will be like you got it
all right? Cool.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
He acts as if like he's blown away, that there's
a technical foul or blown away.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
You know what's worse is.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
You know he's he's saying that people may gon have
to be a certain certain kind of way. You've had
two of his peers, one of them a former team
m Kevin Durant like, gay, man, I don't know what's
going on with that guy.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
There's something going on emotion. You gotta worry about it.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
And then you had Joseph Nurkic, who is a clutch
sports Clint know about clutch sports. All those guys hang
out together, they're all friends with each other. He's like, hey,
that brother needs help.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
Draymond, rather than accepting that in a certain way, says,
who are you to be saying that kind of stuff
about me?
Speaker 3 (35:40):
You must not be a real friend.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
If you're gonna say in the media, no, I was
not a trip, But go on his podcast and say
whatever you want.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
If everybody keeps saying you crazy, Maybe you are because
if everybody's saying it, you know what I mean, if
everybody's like, man, I'm just saying bro, it might want
to cool it off a little bit.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
It ain't us at some point, Draymond.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
And if your front can't tell you, nobody can. Supposedly,
if that's your friend, they tell you.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
Look, I'm being real with you, brother, what's concern here?
We might need check?
Speaker 7 (36:07):
You know what?
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Michael Jackson said.
Speaker 6 (36:10):
The man.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Yeah, he said it way better than you. Michael. I
got to hear all your songs. Well, all I'm gonna
say is happy Mother's Day. My mom has passed. One
of the sweetest women. Oh my god. We'll think about
that woman, Mary Parker.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
You can honor her
Hosts And Creators
kelvin washington
Rob Parker
Popular Podcasts
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com
24/7 News: The Latest
The latest news in 4 minutes updated every hour, every day.
Therapy Gecko
An unlicensed lizard psychologist travels the universe talking to strangers about absolutely nothing. TO CALL THE GECKO: follow me on https://www.twitch.tv/lyleforever to get a notification for when I am taking calls. I am usually live Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays but lately a lot of other times too. I am a gecko.