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May 9, 2025 37 mins

Rob and Kelvin explain why they’re both rooting for the New  York Knicks to upset the Boston Celtics in round two, react to the breaking news surrounding Anthony Edwards’ unfortunate ankle injury and take Draymond Green to task for his latest goonish antics.

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the hour last call in case you can't get in
on any of these things will quick Kelvin before we
get to our next topic that we want to get
to is I know, Bears fans, they're so desperate, they

(01:35):
so desperately want to win another Super Bowl. At least
they wont a not Lions fans where have never won one.
They won in nineteen eighty five, right, at least one one.

Speaker 5 (01:45):
Okay, where are we going with this?

Speaker 3 (01:47):
But now on Twitter all over, you know now that
the new pope is from Chicago, the first American pope.
They are just figuring the fix will be in with God.
Now you know that the pope will talk to him
and say, I only love Chicago and you blessed Chicago?

Speaker 2 (02:01):
Right?

Speaker 4 (02:01):
Is that what's going to happen now?

Speaker 5 (02:03):
And you know what else they're doubling down on it.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
Rob They're saying, we're the first to ever have a
President Obama from Chicago and the pope from Chicago. We up,
we lit shy Town forever. I'm gonna say this, that's
what they're saying.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
I'm not so sure the Vatican understands that there's not
a terriff on popes, because I think that's why they
picked one from the United States to avoid the tariff.

Speaker 5 (02:28):
No, I'm just asking, is that what it was?

Speaker 4 (02:31):
The EU was like, EU was like that tame up
with the States.

Speaker 5 (02:35):
What can we do?

Speaker 1 (02:36):
He was like he, no, No, I went to tam
twenty five percent. They were like, how about we give
you a pope. That's right, that sounds even better. I'd
rather it be me, but you can.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
Get him, and they have the first ever American pope.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
Yeah, that's I didn't see that, but I knew he
was kind of the leading candidate.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
But he went he as soon as he became a
clergy guy or pope or not a pope, a priest,
he went straight to Rome, didn't he. I mean, he's
been there for a long time. Only I don't understand.
And that's just me. I'm not trying to rob you
your Catholic right, No, I mean technically, okay, what is

(03:16):
with the hiring of a sixty nine year old? Is
there not any young guys who maybe I'm.

Speaker 5 (03:22):
Asking, I'm asking. So I've interviewed for the last two weeks.

Speaker 4 (03:25):
You know, sixty nine, you're just getting your chance at pope.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
So here's the reason, Rob, So, I just had a
bunch of scholars and fathers and priests and all that
on the show over the last few weeks since his
passing a couple of weeks. The reason is, or at
least part of the reason is their thought process is
why get a guy who's forty five fifty and maybe
we like him, maybe we don't.

Speaker 5 (03:46):
We're stuck with him for thirty years.

Speaker 4 (03:48):
Why can't the but but that so you could be
a bad pope at sixty nine too.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
But Lord Willing, you know you ain't gonna be around
at all, So that I'm telling you that's the large
But why can't a pope retire?

Speaker 3 (03:59):
Why does he have to die to get to lose
his gig like a Supreme Court justice?

Speaker 4 (04:03):
You know what I mean? The ridiculous?

Speaker 2 (04:07):
All right?

Speaker 3 (04:08):
One thing that I love, and I gotta say this, Kelvin,
I absolutely love with a capitol l obe that the
Knicks are beating the Celtics two games to nothing. It
has nothing to do to that. I grew up in
New York from Jamaica Queens and as a kid I

(04:30):
went to Nick games and all that other has nothing
to do with that. I'm rooting for the Knicks to
save the sport of basketball. And you notice, Kelvin it's
a copycat league. Somebody has success with it.

Speaker 4 (04:49):
They're doing it. Steph Curry shooting threes. Everybody, let's shoot threes.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
Hey, the Celtics won up a championship jacket up threes.

Speaker 4 (05:00):
That's the you can do it. You don't have to
worry about anything else.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
And now with the missing threes, missing twenty five of
their one hundred threes, and if they lose and don't repeat,
get knocked out in the second round because of poor
free throw I mean three point shooting, maybe teams will say, guess.

Speaker 4 (05:22):
What, what's that? Maybe you gotta rethink about this.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
Maybe this isn't exactly and it doesn't mean that you
eliminate threes totally, but it can't be the end all
be all that it can be a part of the game,
but not all of the game. And understand aesthetically how
ugly it is to watch right on, we watching some
ugly basketball.

Speaker 5 (05:45):
Fortunately, I have to agree.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
I have to agree because listen, one of the things
you want from the playoffs and from a team is
you want to see heart. You want to see desire,
you want to see passion, and that is what the
Knicks have been providing. And a handful of other teams
throughout this postseason, and when he comes to the Celtics,
their philosophy of.

Speaker 5 (06:06):
Will we shoot threes all season long? That's just what
we do. We did the last year. We want to ring.
Here's my thing. You know what it reminds me of.
It reminds me of Mike Tyson when he was a
champion and he would.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
Come out with the towel, with the snarl and the growl,
and he figured, I'm the champ right now.

Speaker 5 (06:21):
You're already defeated. Because I'm the champ.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
You're scared, you're shoot you would come in, bop knock
you out. Well, even to use his own phrase, everybody's
got a plan until they get punched in the mouth.

Speaker 5 (06:32):
And what the Celtics are doing is coming in, we're
the chance. This is what we do.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
We shoot threes. Deal with the analytics say he's a
good shot, so what will take them. We're getting open
threes and they're getting hit in the mouth and they
don't know how to react rob and they're flustered and
they're scared. And because if threes aren't going in, teams
aren't going away, and they don't have a second move.

Speaker 5 (06:52):
They don't have a second option, and to me, they have.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
That's one of the big things that I've been disappointed
watching them is Okay, you shoot threes.

Speaker 5 (06:59):
That a high clip.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
Mostly you're not this year Jason Tatum is struggling from
the three.

Speaker 5 (07:04):
This wasn't his one of his better years.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
Yet they keep shooting them and they're not having any
understanding of the moment, saying at this moment, we need
to switch it up.

Speaker 5 (07:13):
At this moment, we need to try that.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
And to me, that's what's been disappointing from a current champion.

Speaker 5 (07:19):
It's okay to just rob I promise, it's okay.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
Nobody's saying change your entire game plan before a five
minute stretch.

Speaker 5 (07:27):
It's okay to switch it up. And to your point,
I love to see.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
I talked about it with Denver, right, Denver has guys
who shoot threes. They got a bunch of guys like
a Jamal Murray likes to hit some mid rangers, get
to the hole. Yolkisch will do whatever he needs to do.
You got, obviously when the Clippers worried it. You got
mid range, you got threes, and okay, see a bunch
of threes, a bunch of mit Range SGA is pretty
much the modern day you know, Kobe and my MJ
with the way he shoots the mid Rangers, and so

(07:53):
I love to see that just the guys who nobody's saying,
don't shoot the three. We're ware that this is the
new NBA, but for that to be the only thing
and you're not knowing how to pivot, I think that's
what's been disappointing, and I think that's why people are
refreshing to see a team like the Knicks coming at them,
playing a different way, playing tough, playing hardcore, standing games
and when they're down, and it's been a little bit.

(08:15):
It's been refreshing from a handful of teams throughout this postseed.
To be honest, the Pistons were like that. They shot threes,
but they also were download, they also got rebounds, they
also played hard, and I've enjoyed seeing that as well.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
I'm rooting for the Knicks because I really believe that
if the Celtics come back and win this series and
go on and win another championship, people will stay on
that boat, you know what I mean. They'll say, well,
they had a little bad stretch, it got straightened out. Right,
and they're good to go, and we'll continue to have

(08:47):
this bad looking basketball that no. I just I've been
covering the league for a long time. I was a
basketball for six win since nineteen eighty seven, right, and
it's hard to watch it just is I and I
think that if you have success, people won't go away

(09:08):
with it. And if they really like the Celtics, really
like bomb at this and say they don't improve on
the threes, and it's just you can look at this
and say, you know what, threes are important, but they
can't be the end all be all, and that is
exactly where we are now with the Celtics. That you
could a third quarter where they shot nineteen of their

(09:33):
twenty shots and that was game won, right, nineteen of
the twenty and in the third quarter, which is just
mind boggling that nobody had a you know, a mid
range or a layoff or you know what I mean,
or put back or.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
Our Horford just got some mismatches down there, say just
throw it down to me, or Prazing is obviously he's
been in it out of the lineup, or that Jalen
Brown didn say I don't give a day who's on
I'm one of the best player on the current reigning
in finals MVP, I'm going to put my head down
and for six straight plays, I'm drawing files and I'm
going to the line flat out.

Speaker 5 (10:08):
I don't give a dang for that to not be
the case.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
Again, I think that's what I don't like is the
idea that, well, this is what we did to get here,
and nobody's saying change your entirety of your team. But
for a quarter, for half a quarter, for a few sets,
you just mix it up. For a few sets, you
just run these things. And again, this goes back to
conversation I was having earlier about with Jason Tatum and
even Jaylen Brown. I would love for those guys to say,

(10:32):
I know, my sweet spots here here and here and
for this stretch, I see the Knicks are coming back.
We're starting to fluster, get flustered a little bit and
starting to falter. Get your boy to rock. I'm a
jazz star. Hit this elbow jumper, a few of those,
and get us back in this thing. SGA like, great example.
I know exactly what SGA can do. I know the
shot he wants. Kate Cunningham, he's young, I know the

(10:53):
shot he wants to get. He can get to the elbow,
or he can put most little guards on his back
and post him up. And that's what they have to
find where it can't just be I'm Mike Tyson. This
fight is going great because they're scared of me. I'm
knocking you out and that's what I do. But when
you get into the fight with Lennox Lewis and Evander
Holyfield and Buster Douglas and they're standing in toe to
toe with you and you don't know what to do,
you shook now, and that's to me what they look like.

Speaker 5 (11:15):
This is what we do. We shoot threes. We win
like this. We're the chance.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
And they got punched in their mouth and they didn't
know how to react and now they find themselves down.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
Oh two, And of course Rob g loves it. He
wants the threes to continue. Go ahead, it's young Whooper
Snapper job g.

Speaker 4 (11:30):
Rob, I got more great than you do.

Speaker 5 (11:32):
Right now?

Speaker 4 (11:33):
Well, two things quickly. You've got two kids at home.
I do. I'm stressed about that out and a wife. Yeah,
losing battle at home right now.

Speaker 6 (11:40):
But number one, Boston, if you guys saw a game too,
we watched the game here in the studio. They tried
to do all the things that you want them to do.
They say, hey, we're not gonna shoot as many threes.
Jalen Brown's gonna try to get in the mid rage.
Jason Tatum only took five threes. He try to get
to the rim. The problem is it's so ingrained in
the way that they play that they didn't know what
to do when they got there, and that's why they're

(12:00):
missing a lot of shots they probably would normally take.
Normally make number two. And this is probably the bigger
conversation Rob and Kevin.

Speaker 4 (12:07):
I think you agree.

Speaker 6 (12:08):
You guys are both saying you would much rather for
basketball sake, the Knicks win than the Celtics, because maybe
that means we both see this span three point over
and over. If the Knicks win and they do it
their style of play, you're saying you'd rather see the
one guy dribble the ball for twenty seconds.

Speaker 4 (12:25):
No, because that's how the Knicks play.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
But that's not what I just want to I wanted
to an right, I just wanted to be Rob g
I hear your point. I'm not saying I want the
Knick style over I just want to stop the threes
to stop, do you know what I mean? And let
there be basketball. If there's somebody who has a mismatch,
throw the ball into them. If there's a short mid

(12:49):
range shot, open take it. Don't have to wait and
force a three.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
One hundred threes and two games is crazy in a
postseason when you use a one hundred when you usually
his possession for you know, these possessions matter when when
you're taking care of when you want to get to
the free throw line, you want to get the other
team in foul trouble.

Speaker 5 (13:07):
To shoot one hundred threes and two games is crazy.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
And for that to just be really their norm, meaning
the next two games, they literally could shoot another one
hundred and that wouldn't be crazy for them. They'd be like,
this is just what we do. All we're saying is
to me, here's what I mean. It belittles how good
Jason Tatum really is because he's allowed to just simply settle.
It belittles how good Jalen Brown is because he's allowed
to just simply settle all.

Speaker 5 (13:33):
What was a three and it was open? Yeah it was.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
But sometimes the better shot is for you to get
to that get to the left, layup, get to the
whole draw file, post up, draw, double team, kick it out.

Speaker 4 (13:42):
Like but they tried that. They just couldn't do it.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
No body, no, no, But I'm saying real quick, right,
they're tried it, but you can tell they were unfamiliar
with That's my point.

Speaker 5 (13:52):
They look so they look like you're.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
Saying, to try to get back to a more balanced
NBA baried attack.

Speaker 4 (13:57):
Yeah, that that's all good Denver.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
Denver shoot threes, but they also post you up, They
midrange you, they work the ball around.

Speaker 5 (14:03):
I like the way they put you.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
Look at again, SG Sga is a mys That's he'll
hit a couple threes a game, but he is all
mid range.

Speaker 4 (14:10):
Should a rack, you know, guys.

Speaker 6 (14:12):
The perfect example of this is the team that's credited
with the three point Bonanza. The Golden State Warriors shot
more lamps and mid rangers than any team in the
league for like a.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
Five stre I've been saying, as they scored from all
over the they not cut.

Speaker 5 (14:25):
You, deathy, they backcut you.

Speaker 6 (14:27):
That.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
Everybody thinks the threes, Yeah, like one or two guys
will shoot a little bit. The rest is backcuts. It's
not what the Celtics do right, Yeah, Livsty was the
king of the post up, remember that?

Speaker 7 (14:37):
Ye?

Speaker 5 (14:38):
All right?

Speaker 3 (14:38):
Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven
nine nine six sixty three sixty nine. Kelvin and I
don't agree a lot, but we agree on this, don't
we that if the Knicks win, you got to root
for the Knicks to win because maybe they won't copy
the Celtics because they don't have failure and they wouldn't
have won two championships in a row.

Speaker 4 (14:58):
And people say this is the to win. So where
are you?

Speaker 3 (15:02):
Who are you rooting for in this series? And would
you like to see the three stop? It is the
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Speaker 5 (15:30):
Okay, Mark, Okay, Mark, You ask and you shall receive.

Speaker 4 (15:34):
I'm alright Fromize. Mark. Yeah, he's been around, he's been
doing the show before.

Speaker 5 (15:40):
Wait, what's your what?

Speaker 3 (15:41):
So?

Speaker 5 (15:41):
Brother? Compliment him?

Speaker 1 (15:42):
Non pac Here you go see Lebron says, Aunt, you
got next step in game up.

Speaker 5 (15:46):
I say something to Mark, see look at.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
You boy, Hey rob g can't wait right, Mar, but
watch this Rob Gfi was like, hey, I ain't gonna
lie man.

Speaker 5 (15:54):
That jacket is fly rob oh Man this time? Thank
you man?

Speaker 4 (15:58):
Yeah, no, patronized me.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
I got it at Ross for twenty one to ninety nine,
an official Jordan jacket that probably con.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
Here's the funny part. How do you remember every single
piece of clothing you have in what price?

Speaker 3 (16:13):
I know what I pay for everything that is crazy
and my closet, and when I get rid of stuff,
I know what the expensive shirt was.

Speaker 4 (16:19):
Boy, that's not being left at the hotel.

Speaker 5 (16:22):
I'm gonna need you to start playing pick a ball
or something. We need you.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
We gotta get you a hobby. You out here knowing
exactly how much each shirt was, right well, real quick.

Speaker 6 (16:28):
We got a lot of calls here eight seveneven nine
O Fox before we get to him, though, Rob, I'm
looking at you through the glass in the street.

Speaker 4 (16:34):
I know, Dove, you can see it.

Speaker 6 (16:35):
Bob Parker's got a fresh Outpoyo Loco cup right in
front of him, a place that he's promised to boycott
because they raised the price.

Speaker 5 (16:45):
Did you finally break Rob?

Speaker 4 (16:47):
No, I did not.

Speaker 6 (16:48):
I ordered food. They gave me an extra cup. Rob's like,
let me get that. Well, wait, am I gonna get
these refills? Calling them free fills? Hey Manton, they're free fills.
There's an extra cup. And Rob G forgot to get
my diet coke when he was over there.

Speaker 4 (17:03):
So after the show, First.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
Of all, you don't even drink diet coke anymore, Robers.

Speaker 4 (17:07):
The night is going to be a diet coke.

Speaker 6 (17:09):
So so the question that we have, the etiquette question
we already we already got this point.

Speaker 4 (17:14):
Is the move for Rob to walk right through the front.

Speaker 6 (17:17):
Door to get his refill or is he going to
be a shisty dude and walk through the back that
no one could see him.

Speaker 4 (17:22):
Wait, no, someone's going to see him no matter which
way he entered. Somebody just broke in the back of
the store. It's got to be you going back.

Speaker 5 (17:31):
Don't have any money.

Speaker 4 (17:33):
The only way this works is Rob G goes back in.
I'm gonna go.

Speaker 3 (17:37):
I'm just going and see.

Speaker 5 (17:41):
I got to relate because they would know.

Speaker 4 (17:44):
Because they saw him already. Robb g they know he
purchased something. I thought you were saying that he was saying.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
I thought I did not go there saying that, you know,
maybe he liked the cuisine, is what I thought Monty
was implying. No, because he already went there, he can
go back in have a research.

Speaker 8 (18:03):
Yeah, they would have remembered dude coming in with the
mare jackets. Yes, there was not many of those around him. No, UDEs, short,
Now that's right boy.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
I'll tell you all black dudes short, and we don't
go there for your loco.

Speaker 4 (18:17):
Y'all sweet spots about six one is six to two.
That's right, rob.

Speaker 5 (18:20):
Berner, Ron Parker.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
The best part about it is the whole NBA is
black with a bust of six eight. Dude, All of
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Speaker 5 (18:45):
All right, let's get to these calls talking.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
About the Celtics Knicks, Rob and I agree the style
that the Celtics play, We're over it. We want to
see more of a variety and we don't want this
to permeate anymore in the NBA.

Speaker 4 (18:57):
Who we got, Jerry and Seattle. You're on the up
on Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Jerry?

Speaker 9 (19:02):
How much how y'all doing?

Speaker 10 (19:06):
So it's I mean, I.

Speaker 9 (19:07):
Agree with you guys as far as style of play,
but when you talk about analytics, you know, if you're
shooting thirty five to forty percent from threes and fifty
five percent from twos, you're just never gonna be able
to keep up. I think though, with how big.

Speaker 11 (19:23):
These guys are now and how great all of them
are shooters. I mean, at the end of the day,
the only.

Speaker 9 (19:27):
Thing the league can be able to do ultimately is
make the court bigger and make the three point mine
further out.

Speaker 7 (19:33):
I mean really, no, I get.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
That, but it but you will admit this being a
copycat league. If the Celtics win again, then these three
is an't going anywhere?

Speaker 9 (19:42):
Well, yeah, because if you shoot forty percent from three
point and you shoot fifty five percent from two, over
the court.

Speaker 4 (19:48):
Right, I get the math.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
I get the math, but I'm just saying if they did,
like you could look and say, dude, you have to
have a be a plan B. You can't just keep shoe.
That's what the argument is. Yeah, I got a math,
no doubt. All right, Thanks JF.

Speaker 5 (20:04):
You got to make a Yeah, I appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
All right, Andre in Massachusetts, you're on the couple of
Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 4 (20:10):
What's up, Drey?

Speaker 11 (20:12):
Hey, how you doing?

Speaker 7 (20:13):
Thanks for taking a call. First and foremost, go New York,
Go New York Nation. Those of us have been behind
this team all the disrespecting the Slanders, behind my coach
Tom Thibodeaux. We've kept all the receipts and so we
are very confident. Now We're not getting ahead of ourselves here, okay,
because you know, we know how things can go. And

(20:34):
based on the history that's happened two years ago where
Miami went up three to zero one the Celtics, Celtics
storm back in won game three games in a row,
and then got the breaks bat off of them in
game seven. So these things can swing back and forth.
But two good wins for the next Here's what it
comes down to for me and being in the common
this is this is what I see. Your brain trust matters,
and the Celtics lost very important coaches. Jeff van Gundy

(20:56):
took his talents to Los Angeles. I think Warbucks came
and head hunted him. Charles Lee, who was a top
assistant with coach Bud he's now the head coach with
the Charlotte Hornet okay, and so that made a huge difference.
The coaching staff was much better last year and Brad
Stevens came in. He brought in Jeff Van Gundy late,
which was as as a consultant in the front office,
and I think he was huge just in terms of

(21:18):
strategy and what they were able to do. Joe Mizzoula
had troubled two years ago. We lost three head coaches
in one season. We lost We lost Will they want
to put it m a Will Hardy, and then Damon
Stodomyer went and got a job with Georgia Tech. So
to the Celtics, they don't Joe Miszoo. It's a lot
of pressure on him, but it's not about analytics and

(21:40):
people can disagree. The game is momentum. It's what's going
on in the in the arena. You get punched in
the face and how do you respond? The numbers can't
dictate that, and they need there needs to be a shift.
Tom Sibadeau is a basketball.

Speaker 10 (21:52):
Life from people.

Speaker 7 (21:53):
How much Mounty people on disrespect him. He's a more
experienced coach than Joe Mizzoola, and I think that's playing
a role. The series is from over. The Knicks have
to get at least one in New York to go
up three to one for the Celtics. It's difficult dealing
with these superstar players, and I think you're seeing Joe
Mizules having a little bit of tough trouble dealing with
first ballot Hall of famers.

Speaker 3 (22:12):
Thanks Droy and real quick, let's get Craig in for Houston,
real quick, Craig, you're on the eye couple of Fox
Sports Radio.

Speaker 11 (22:19):
What's up, Craig, Hey, guys, Hey, thanks taking my call. Man,
having a good evening, Yah, yeah we are. Yeah, And
I hear what you guys are saying. Man, and I
know you're not picking the Knicks, and no.

Speaker 4 (22:31):
Thank you.

Speaker 5 (22:32):
I'm not.

Speaker 11 (22:32):
I'm not really, but but my my concern is, man,
as bad as Boston is shooting it, the Knicks have
been down twenty each night.

Speaker 5 (22:41):
That's real.

Speaker 11 (22:43):
So if these boys just started making a couple of threes,
you know, Uh, man, the Knicks are going to be
in trouble, you know. I mean it's it's not U
and I.

Speaker 7 (22:54):
To a degree.

Speaker 11 (22:55):
Uh Bridges. Man, I'm kind of liking some of that
work he's doing.

Speaker 5 (22:58):
On Brown He Yeah, he's that.

Speaker 11 (23:01):
I like where he plays man.

Speaker 5 (23:03):
Yeah, he's making them work.

Speaker 11 (23:05):
Yeah. Another thing, man, big Cat's got to show up, man.
I mean, it's down the stretch man watching Jaylen Brunson
work so hard and big cats just floating around. Man,
he's got it.

Speaker 10 (23:15):
You know.

Speaker 11 (23:16):
He had a decent game in the last game, but
he's got to show up.

Speaker 7 (23:18):
Man.

Speaker 11 (23:19):
They got to get a little man some help, man,
you know, but they got.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
To find a way to have some better Fegus Craig. Yeah,
we appreciate your call, Craig. All right, so we're gonna
continue some breaking news about Anthony Edwards that will have
Monsey tell us here, and then we'll come back and
have more conversation on it.

Speaker 5 (23:34):
Monte Blanos, what's trending?

Speaker 2 (23:35):
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Speaker 1 (23:47):
The Odd Couple Rob and Kelvin on a TV things
on Thursday. Yeah, just hearing about that and at Edwards
injury there. Like I said, I've been able to see
it in.

Speaker 4 (23:56):
Uh you hope you got anything else too to add
to this.

Speaker 6 (24:01):
No, I mean we're still waiting on word from this
hopefully because it's tough time coming up. He can get
taped up and it's not as bad as it initially looked.
That'd be the ideal situation. The problem that we're running
into though in the NBA, and this goes back to
even last year when they instituted the rule that said, hey,
the best players got to play.

Speaker 4 (24:17):
No longer load managing. YadA, YadA, YadA.

Speaker 6 (24:20):
This will now be two consecutive postseasons where superstars are
missing at major action in the postseason. Last year you
had both Yannis and Dame miss games for Milwaukee. Chris
davs Porzingis missed most of the playoffs from the Boston Celtics.
Jimmy Butler missed the series for.

Speaker 4 (24:38):
The Miami Heat.

Speaker 6 (24:39):
I mean, now you go to Dame again, Tears's achilles
Steph Curry missing at least a week with a hamstring.

Speaker 4 (24:46):
Who knows going on that the Edwards.

Speaker 6 (24:49):
I know this kind is sacrilegious, but maybe load management
wasn't such a bad idea Rob Parker.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
No, but I don't think that even with the people
have had old management, there have been injuries, you know
what I mean?

Speaker 4 (25:03):
Like like so I don't think that that is exactly it.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
We talked about it before, not practicing not you know,
uh uh making sure that you're uh maybe maybe sometimes
playing actually can prevent and having people sit out and
and then go in or not like stretch all your
muscles and do everything. I just I haven't seen the

(25:27):
statistics that say if you load manage, you prevent people from.

Speaker 4 (25:32):
Getting injured, you know what I mean? Because Kawai could
never stay health to.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
You be I'm gonna say some other people you think
of load management and George Kyrie Irving, I mean a
lot of the guys you think of Anthony Davis that
they're often banged up and hurt anyway, And this was
a crazy injury because Anthony Edwards is one of those
young guys who's this both been very vocal don't load
manage me.

Speaker 5 (25:56):
I want to play.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
I want to play all eighty two and he and
so if you looked at it was just a freak injury.
The guy landed on his foot and it didn't look
like especially because he didn't he didn't land on it.
Anthony Edwards din't land on Jackson's foot. That's a whole
different thing because it usually you know, twist and you
tweak it more. This was almost like he just kind
of stepped on it and banged on the floor. So hopefully,
and the good thing if you're the Timberwolves is if

(26:19):
you can finish this game with the big lead. That
way Anthony can sit out the rest of this game
and you'd be up to you know, or you'd be
in this series again. And maybe if you need to
miss one more they're missing stuff, you can kind of say,
all right, we got a shot, so hopefully getting this game.
If you're the Timberwolves, you got to win this game.
But I don't I don't actually believe it's the low management.

(26:42):
My theory is this. I think what we have seen
over the last fifteen years or so, maybe even twenty,
is these young guys only playing basketball since they've been three.

Speaker 5 (26:53):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
Ben Simmons number one pick injured, missed a bunch of times,
Blake Griffin in bench. Look at all you number one picks,
Rob Blake Griffin, Ben Simmons, LaMelo wasn't a number one
pickys what number two? Number one pick injured all the time?
Linzo Ball number two pick injured all the time. So
many of these guys are injured all the time. Drop
or Rant injured a lot because they've played nothing but

(27:18):
basketball since they were three.

Speaker 5 (27:20):
And the season ends.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
What they do rob au and in another au and
they playing four games a day in the au literally
playing four five that's and your body is not as
a limited amount of jumps.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
And they also have their personal trainers and all this
other stuff. It's like in the off season a lot,
they don't allow their bodies to heal.

Speaker 4 (27:37):
People used to put on ten pounds of baby of fat.

Speaker 5 (27:41):
Yeah you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
Relax and get in it and exact play other sport
they play. They play tennis, so different muscles.

Speaker 3 (27:47):
I'm swimming, and then as you get ready for the season,
then you get yourself back into playing shape. That's what
training camp used to be. Now training him in the
NBA is two weeks and you're playing games after one
week's training camp.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
They're just basketball, basketball, basketball, basketball basketball. And you talk
to some of the old guys, Man, they used to
Jordan golfing. It's not that they don't work out, but
I'm golfing. I'm doing this, I'm taking family time.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
I remember when baseball players wouldn't even touch weights, they
wouldn't work out.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
You know what, Waits, It's it's just they're doing too
much robbery. I equate it to more to that than
road and management. That's my personal opinion. I think them
overdoing it with the basketball since theyven single specialized sports.
All I do is play basketball from five on all
year round, three sixty five. I think they have cut
off some of the years they were supposed to have.

(28:40):
Meaning if you're supposed to get a twelve year NBA career,
these guys are getting six to seven because they've just
played too much since they've been four or five, six
years old.

Speaker 5 (28:48):
That's my thought on what these injuries coming.

Speaker 6 (28:49):
Okay, so if it's not load management and that you
guys both make great points, what if anything can the
league do to ensure that we don't have another season,
which it seems to have been every season where major
players are missing games, impacting the postseason and we're not
getting the best product on the floor.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
That's a great question, and rob g if they could,
they would figure something out. But I don't know if
there's anything. I really really don't because answer because guys
who are arrested Kawhi how many times you see him,
Let's get Kawhi ready for the postseason. He's been injured
when nobody's even touched him right like he's just running
down the court.

Speaker 4 (29:26):
I just don't get it. And you know, I mean, guys.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
Have always been hurt, don't get me wrong, and I've
been covering the league for a long time, but it
seemed like people get hurt easier now than before.

Speaker 4 (29:39):
It's not even.

Speaker 6 (29:40):
Every team the Celtics players the running championships, someone was hurt.

Speaker 5 (29:42):
Somebody was out.

Speaker 4 (29:43):
Every team very similar to the Warriors.

Speaker 6 (29:45):
Twenty fifteen is one right when Kawhi got his with
the Warriors missing half their starters in the finals.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
I'll say this though, Robbery, one thing we often forget
about is some of those championship runs with your favorite
team in the.

Speaker 5 (29:59):
Eighties and nine a lot of injuries.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
Magic Johnson goes out for most of the series against
the Pistons, Isaiah Twisty.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
But the difference, I don't disagree with you, But people
weren't missing all these like sitting out games during the year.

Speaker 4 (30:12):
People played unless they were hurt, you know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (30:15):
Like, no, I agree it. I mean they weren't missing
during the season.

Speaker 6 (30:18):
Miss games Michael Jordan and his last But what you're saying,
guys will get hurt when they play all the time,
and yeah when they don't play.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
But what I'm saying, and that's partly with you, but
I just I do believe strongly that these kids playing
too much basketball is why we have so many young
stars we're all excited about and they just never are healthy.
Like you're like, oh, this kid's gonna be great because
you've been knowing about him since he was eleven, because
they had a mixtape out, and he've been playing basketball
too much, too long, too three sixty five for fifteen years.

(30:45):
By the time he gets the NBA, his body Like, hey, bro,
I am tired.

Speaker 5 (30:50):
I am tired man, all right.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
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(31:44):
last call? How about Keith in Seattle? You're the last
call here on the Odd Couple? Fox Sports Radio. What's
up Keith?

Speaker 10 (31:53):
Hey, fellas gets peaked, but no worries?

Speaker 3 (31:56):
All right, PTE, Thank you, Thank you, buddy.

Speaker 4 (32:00):
We appreciate the support for real.

Speaker 5 (32:02):
Thank you.

Speaker 10 (32:03):
Oh you guys are awesome. I'll keep it short and simple.
I think you missed the huge, most important factor in
the load management discussion about Okay eating injuries and the NBA,
and it's the fact that it's a totally different sport.
When you get into the playoffs, you've got referees letting
people play. It's a much more physical sport where people

(32:23):
are getting injured. Why are they getting injured more? It's
not fatigue, it's not load management. It's they're letting them
play and they're balling out and that's where the injuries
come in. I think it's that simple.

Speaker 4 (32:34):
Okay, Pete.

Speaker 3 (32:35):
There's definitely a more physical play like it in the
second half. I mean in the playoffs compared to the
regular season, where if you just touch somebody's back softly,
they calling a foul, like you can't touch anybody, and
that what we want, but it.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
Does make it weird if you're the players I don't
win eighty two games allowed to do something that all
of a sudden, Now I'm not.

Speaker 4 (32:56):
A game shouldn't change that much, So I do agree.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
I think they're needs to be and we all understand
that the regular season postseason are being different, but it
shouldn't be such a stark difference. I do think the
league needs to allow a little bit more, you know,
and let him play just a little bit more, not
saying it has to be full on playoff in the
middle of January. But I can see how players are like, wait, oh,
that's that's not a foul out. For six seven months,

(33:22):
I got two free throws off of that, and now
it's not the case. But but I've enjoyed the physicality again.
I saw the Knicks and the Pistons having it. You
saw it with the Nuggets and the Clippers.

Speaker 5 (33:33):
There are a lot of series. Man, Okay, see how.

Speaker 4 (33:35):
About Draymond's elbow in this game? I mean, you know,
what did you see that?

Speaker 7 (33:40):
Like?

Speaker 3 (33:40):
Don't I don't understand if I was a player in
the league, how do you have any respect when a
guy it's always he's always on the end of elbowing
somebody in the face or hitting somebody like it. It's
just out of out of sorts. Why do they allow
him to bully people and do that.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
This is what to our earlier conversations. I love that
he plays Harbors. Somebody was supposed to have been hit
him with a two pieces.

Speaker 4 (34:07):
I agree.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
Literally, somebody was telling you Robert Paris to Bill Lambert, remember,
he just was like I had enough, Bill and was
just like.

Speaker 3 (34:18):
Can I tell you if Charles Oakley was playing or whatever, dude,
that would have happened a long time without a doubt,
guys like that or the or the Davis brothers in India,
and that they weren't having that.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
And again nobody's asking him not to play hard and
not to play you know, right to the line. But
like the other day, I think it was a I'm
trying to remember it was a rocket player or was
it not. I think it was a terrible somebody stripped
them and instead of just being like, oh, I got stripped.
Strip in the air, he punches and like kicks his legs.
He exaggerates whenever the ball gets loose, so he's like,

(34:53):
oh he punches the guy right in the face.

Speaker 5 (34:55):
And he's always like, oh my bad, my back, dude,
that's not that. No one else does that.

Speaker 4 (34:58):
That's not even a basketball.

Speaker 5 (35:00):
What else gets that ball strip?

Speaker 1 (35:01):
And they just like the gage people and balled up fists,
and he does a lot of that stuff where it's
like sneaky, oh oh I'm falling, but I like stumped you,
oh my fall and I've elbowed you because I'm just
trying to go wait WHOA And I.

Speaker 3 (35:15):
Right wall where he stomped, and he looked he looked
right down at him and like.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
Trying to act like, oh, I was just trying to
step over you.

Speaker 5 (35:23):
He slit a hole in his.

Speaker 4 (35:24):
Exactly, you stepped right in his trust some bonus.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
Yeah, yeah, he does that a lot like those Oh
I'm going for the lose ball, and I remember he backhanded.

Speaker 5 (35:37):
Shoot Wuevich was was Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
He he just like straight flailed his arm and fist
hit him right in the face.

Speaker 5 (35:45):
He was like, yo, He's like.

Speaker 4 (35:47):
Oh, trying to get the lose ball.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
Yes, I can't believe nobody just flat out hey, coach,
it's February third, this game dot matter that.

Speaker 5 (35:57):
Much, I'm going to give him.

Speaker 4 (35:58):
I'll tell you this and you'd get a little of that.

Speaker 5 (36:01):
Oh yeah, yeah, he would.

Speaker 4 (36:02):
They were they were they would throw at you and
be like, dude.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
Out of doubt, stop or they're sliding into you trying
to get the second or something.

Speaker 5 (36:10):
Yeah. Yeah, Baseball definitely gonna.

Speaker 6 (36:13):
What's worse with the Draymond thing, him doing this habitually
habitual line stepper or Steve Kerr going out of his
way to complain about the fouls on the.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
Other team ridiculous after every game Steve Steve Kirk.

Speaker 4 (36:28):
It is dramon with that and players needed to handle Draymond.

Speaker 3 (36:31):
But Steve Kerr is like the biggest baby going, like, Bro,
you employ.

Speaker 6 (36:35):
This man and you're gonna complain about on his wrist
when he was trying to get past the screen.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
This guy's swinging on people, stepping on people, punching his
own teammates.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
If I was a rough I'd say, as soon as
you straighten out Draymond Green, come back and talk to us.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
That's what I would say. Yeah, man, Because it's habitual.
Line stepper is the perfect way to describe it. It's
not once every two years, three years, it's all the time,
once a game. And I can't believe other teams enforcers happened,
Like they didn't send you Donnas Haslman back in the
day to give serve them up a two piece.

Speaker 4 (37:09):
No doubt shocked. Well, what's tomorrow?

Speaker 5 (37:13):
Last back Friday tomorrow? They odd couple, no doubt.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
All right, Well, Kevin, have a great night and guy
right back at it.
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