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Here you go take some more?
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and I get that. Would you stop? Please?
Speaker 3 (02:19):
No, I'm not looking at them one and that's why
I they don't show up on my timeline.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
What doesn't what we're talking about? Why I didn't you
hear it? What it was? The drop like rats? Hey, Alex,
the best part about it is all we got to
do is say the word enough because you know they're
listening and it'll pop up. Listen, his Explorer page will
be nothing but splinter from the teenager. My god. But no,
the what we're just saying might talking about rats? Go ahead? No, no, no,
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I'm sorry. I can't remember now, so you got me
all message. No, I'm saying hood rats you know what
I mean. No, I'm saying good yeah, id rat poppets?
Speaker 4 (03:00):
What his name?
Speaker 1 (03:01):
What was that movie that Michael Jackson had been? I
know all the movies I've seen. There was a nightmare
for you. Everybody else thought it was a sad movie.
That was a horror flick for you. Find that song, Alex,
I needed ben from Michael Jackson. Look at you scratching,
your getting nervous and itching. No, sorry, let's get to
the real conversation. We gotta get to why you gotta
do that to me? You find like, Okay, let's get
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to it.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Rats Rats?
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Do you like rats? The best part Alex hit him
with me. Let's go Mike Jackson. Yeah, this was dedicated
to my dead rat. That was my one and only,
my homie. We called him Ben. Oh god, the two
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of us. Who would make a song about a rat?
I like, I like, seriously the best buddy. Why did
everybody love it? I know it was a huge thing,
the movie, the songs. It was a rat, not a mouse.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
You know.
Speaker 6 (04:02):
The best comment on this video the only song that
can make a grown man cry.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
This a rat, a rat, not even Master Splinter. Okay,
thank you, oh God, Steve. They're harmonized over dead rat.
You've got a friend and me. Man whoever was the
drummer on this set was so mad, Alex, I gotta
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drum up this one. I was supposed to be on
the road with the.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
One that was before that was the one that got me,
was Willard. That was the that's another one that that
was the original one. But all right, I'm sorry crying
right now.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
We didn't even see it, and uh, we know you
took up my watch out for the rats. She was
trying to be helping.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Probably would have stepped right on it and it would
have felt like like a pincush.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Now here, we are carrying you back to the hotel
after Robb gr had to feed you fasted out. I
would have stop that you encarriged you back. Oh my gosh, man,
you were just like out of it, just like a
date that I had, a crazy wild date, had a
feed her bread and pancakes and then carry her home.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
You know, my you know, my worst nightmare is you know,
bite it to a hammer stop and a tail snop.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Okay, that's there he goes with extremes. There he comes
with extremes. Let's go, let's get it. Let me just
run it back. The best part about it is my
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first week here was when that bat flew around. You
don't understand the way you can't see you, Rob, You
couldn't see your face, the fear and the best he
was in the middle of And I tell you what,
the lions ain't gonna do nothing. The cheese angle. It
ain't just because I was a bat bite me. I
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don't know what that bat was flying around. I wanted
that ever jump in my lap again? Why are you
in my left defense? Had a pancake? Okay, all right,
can you go to let me get all right there?
Speaker 4 (06:15):
Right?
Speaker 1 (06:15):
So oh god. Anthony Edwards, who does not play for
the Minnesota Rats, but for the Timberwolves. He's been the
guy that the region, the team's not called a rat. Okay,
that's possible. Is no rat? So Anthony Edwards. Many people
say he's the face like he is the now young
new first face of the league, and a lot of
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in the he's your favorite player's favorite player. You know,
he's the older vets there. He's the guy they look at.
He's tough, he talks smack, he's himself, he's authentic and so.
Over the weekend All Star weekend, he was asked, hey, man,
you got the swag, you got this, you know, could
you be the face of the league. Here's what you
had to say. Do you consider yourself the top candidates
to be the next face.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Of the league?
Speaker 1 (07:00):
No, not really.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
That's what they got.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Uh, that's what they got win before. That's what they
got win before. And he went on to say no,
he said what Wimby. Yeah, everyone does know that. It's
Wimby done done, done done.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Everyone knows whim Hey, hey hey.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
He went on to say, this is the worst segment
slash best segment ever. He went on to say, uh,
he's cap because they had They said, man, you got
the bag, you got the swag, and he said, I
got all of that. I'm capable. I just you know,
He's like, I don't know. I just don't want that,
you know, I just want to play ball. I just
want to hoop. Was this point? So the conversation is
the NBA, we know Lebron. You know, at some point
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he's gonna move on, Steph's gonna move on, Kd's gonna
move on. Kind of the old brigade is gonna move on,
Chris Paul, all those guys. So who is gonna be
the next face? And is it their responsibility to accept
that mental So if everybody's saying it's Anthony Edwards, should
it be Anthony Edwards? What I heard right there, Rob
was I like the commercials he's got. The Adidas commercials
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he liked he had the uh I love the Christmas
Sprite commercials he had. Those were great as well. But
I think he doesn't want the responsibility that comes with
it from a being out of the public guy for
negative things. He's had some you know, if you know
his stories and some things out there, some ladies who
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have issues have claimed some things and accuse him of
some things and put out some snapchats and text messages
and all that. I think he knows. I don't want
to be the government politician, official, perfect guy like a
lebron Right or Steph I got the you know, the
beautiful family. Well I got news for him. Yeah, you
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don't get to pick. And I don't think he has
anything to worry about. I think that was all premature.
I get it.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Last year it made for a good story because oh
my god, they beat the Nuggets and that was a shock,
and they wound up getting people thought they will remember
that when they who they play, Uh, they play the MAVs.
Everybody was ready to cry them and then all of
a sudden, right they they didn't. It didn't work out.
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And he didn't play that as well, and the team
didn't play as well, and and that'll just happen. It
ain't something where somebody in some officers saying, hey, you're
the next guy, and it could be Wimby.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
It really could be. Uh.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
But I remember when Shack, before Shack started making the playoffs.
You remember the first couple of years in Orlando, they
didn't make the playoffs. It's hard to be the face
of the league when the playoffs are going on and
you're not in the playoffs. So I don't think he
has anything to worry about as far as being that guy,
because it'll happen where they see you have all the
qualities and they will try to put you to the front,
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try to feature you on some stuff that that would
make you and put you in that thing. But but
it's not like you gotta raise your hand or if
you're doing stuff that is not coming to the league,
or it just won't happen.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
I think what we're looking at, I think Anthony Edwards
will be not as influential, but the Allen Iverson version
of most people. I don't even think he's the same
as he was just a year ago.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
I think last year with that playoff run, people were
all about him. This year, the team's not as good, right,
Cat's not there. It doesn't feel the same to me.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
I agree with that. But he's only him being twenty
three or four. I think that I'm just saying he's
heading still towards this.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
But last year should have been a building step because
Cat's not there, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (10:37):
What you mean, this was your year to be the guy,
and everybody wants to give it to him because he's
the one guy who will say something. He's the one
guy play defense. He says, I want to play every night.
Screw that low management. I want to ball. I want
to play that. He talks smack to the players, but
he also has enough respect. He's arrogant without being copied cocky.
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He's confident. He's the whole baggage. Obviously, he's got the
same build as a Jordan and Kobe that held you know,
six five sixty six. He's got that thing in that regard.
But I feel like he's a little bit more iverson,
maybe a little more rough a on the edges that
you know, the league would like, maybe a little more
baggage outside of the actual game that comes with it.
And I think Wemby, because you saw Wemby mad at
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the All Star Game that his team lost. He cares.
Wemby obviously literally a freak of nature, and how tall
he is and how his game play play. I can
see him being more the statesmen and more of the
you know, Steph Curry a little more were polished, if
you will. Obviously you know speaks French and English as
the second language. But I could see that being the
case with Wemby's that guy, and Edwards is you're sort
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of an Allen Iverson guy. I'm real, I'm raw, I'm me,
I'm out thinking, I'm a cousin. I don't care who
I am what I am.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
And people flocked to the high hopes for for ed
You know what I mean after last year and why
you keep ending it?
Speaker 1 (11:58):
I just do you think it's this? It was no. No,
I'm like, he should have had you build off. I agree,
but I'm saying he's so young. I get it.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
But other guys are coming Like I'm just saying, like
Wemby's getting better, his team is getting better, like that
now that they have.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
From the kids. Darren Fox, Darren Fox, you know what.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
I'm saying, Like, like now that team could be good again,
not bad.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
If Wemby's not in the.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Playoffs like last year, it's hard for you to be
the face of anything.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
I look at it like Jordan. Though Jordan came into
the league, it was Bird's league, Magic's league, Zeke doctor
j was still there, Kareem was still there, and he
was just one of oh yeah, that's the one young
girl that can score. And as he kept getting better,
kept winning, kept getting the highlights, kept finding his you know,
footing in the league. Then he became that guy. And
that's what I'm saying, the oldest thing. I'll just I'm
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not saying he's Jordan. What I mean is he's got time.
Mean he I disagree with this with the Jordan thing.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Yeah, that's why they froze him out the All Star
Game because of as much attention. Even though those guys
were there, there was a there was a resentment already,
is what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
He was coming in torching League game. That's what I said, come.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Here like Michael Jordan for them not to want to
pass the baltimate an All Star Game because they felt
the league was already you know what I mean, Like
he was his airing this.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
I know Michael was Mike, but but you get what
I mean. Eventually came covered to the.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
NBA when I was a beat writer and sitting you know,
off in the in the UH press row watching him
play for real.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
That's like one of the joys of my career. I
never got to see him playing in person. He's one
of these, you know, one of the one of those
dying I wish I was, like, I never got to
see Michael Jackson before and before he passed. You know,
that kind of thing, to see greatness in in in person.
But the question, you know what I mean is is
there was your responsibility as a young up and comer.
Is it earned or is it given?
Speaker 7 (13:51):
Rob?
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Speaker 1 (14:12):
I mean, it's that simple.
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dot Com the way tirebis should be at Edwards Anthony
Edward said, a man, I don't want to be the
face of the lee. Everybody keeps telling him that he
should be the next stub, He's the next guy. He
says no, But he says it should be Winny. That's
what they're setting up to be.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
But we say, everyone knows it's Wimby bump By.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Everyone knows it's whim Should it be Winny? Should it be?
At eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox, Will be
all Right?
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Cameron in Indiana, you're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
What's up Cam?
Speaker 8 (15:46):
Hey, guys, I listen to the show every night. Y'all
do a good job.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Thank you, appreciate you. You know what, that never gets old.
We appreciate that for real.
Speaker 8 (15:55):
Yep, no word, guys. But hey, when he say Earns
goovenim let me just tell you this. I have no
problem with Lebron the player, but if it was not given,
his son would be sitting on the coups at home.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Okay, okay, I hear you. And but we're talking about
the face of the least. But you know we're talking
about the face. Thanks for the Carl appreciated.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
What about John in Nashville, you're on the odd couple
of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
What's up John?
Speaker 9 (16:24):
Philozolvia? Are good doing well tonight? I spoke to you
a few days go about Travis Hunters. I appreciate you
having me back on. I just want to do like,
just like to some core ethics stuff of what it
means to be a good human, a good human on
this earth that we live on, and you've got to
go through trials and tribulations to grab on to what
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you can be and the best human you can be
in the in this sense, the best basketball player that
Anthony Edwards can begin. I'm just gonna make a quick comparison.
Anthony Edwards has his share of off the court ish
you is and some of them to comparing to is
John Morant going through his off court issues. And I'm
going to be an optimist in this situation. And these
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two young gentlemen are going to learn and grow from
what they have been through, and that the next five
ten years for them, these two guys are going to
grow and they're going to become the face of the NBA.
So I think even if he doesn't want it, he
doesn't know it yet because he hasn't quite been through enough.
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But he and John Morant, those are the two that
are going to learn and grow and that they're gonna
be faced.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
That's like I feel you on that too.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Money problem with Jah was after all that went down,
he was right back doing this job.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
I'm just saying they called that man joh Wick. I
didn't I laugh for two weeks straight? Yes, is in
John Wick with the Okay, make sure you knew? Yes, Yes,
I know he's all about But I just you threw
me off for a Secon. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
How about Chili? Tim in Atlanta. You're in the couple
of Fox Sports Radio. What's up Tim?
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Kevin?
Speaker 10 (18:08):
Guys going?
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Man, were great?
Speaker 10 (18:10):
Two quick things if I get to my point. First
of all, Kelvin, that was in Mace's wife. That was
his mama calling down to the basement. Tell them is
trash day tomorrow? You know, So.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Don't do like that, like yeah, the basement line going,
That's why I wouldn't.
Speaker 10 (18:27):
And second ball, I actually have a night basketball signed
by the eighty two Carolina basketball team, James Wordy and
all those guys on there. I've been offered to people
to buy it, but I won't show it. Insurance.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
How much.
Speaker 10 (18:43):
Did they offer you? Figures? I figures?
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Nice?
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Yeah, you know, like what happens to a lot of
people as you get older, you know, people start cashing
that stuff.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
All right, I need to do something. We need some family,
Yeah you know what I mean, Like it's going.
Speaker 10 (18:58):
To have and all my kids, you know, they they're
into their career, so I don't have to worry about college.
Rob not putting girls to college. But it was I
think his play. I think whoever comes out and it
is the best player that sells tickets, because that's what
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it's about. I think they made it about. I know,
people look at Lebron and say, you know, he had
all the you know, and he had the political stuff.
You know, he did all the said the right things,
the right thing. But if he wasn't a good basketball player,
it wouldn't have got the same way with George. He
was a great basketball player, he would have got the Kobe.
You know, Kobe had his off field, off the court
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mean thing. But because they were great players, you know
what I mean. And I think if they become great
players and whoever wins and wins at high clip it
becomes a great player. That's box office that people will,
you know, you pay to go see that. You you
set aside money for you and your kids or your
family to go watch the basketball game that coming. I
think that what he's going to come down to more
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than anything else. Nice.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Thanks such appreciate it. Josh in Orlando. You're on the
odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Josh.
Speaker 11 (20:13):
I'll be real quick with my point. So I'm forty eight.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Okay.
Speaker 11 (20:16):
It's sad, man, It's sad the way the league is now.
It's so soft from what we knew. But my hope
thing is if Anthony doesn't want to be to face
the league, that's fine. It's not about who we should appoint.
It's about who wants it, right. I wish the honest
would want it, because he's he's he'd be perfect for it.
But I mean it's just sad, you know, really, there's
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there's no faith out there and.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
You know what you know.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
And at one point, uh, Josh, people were saying, oh,
a foreign player can't be the face. I know Chris
was always talking about things like that, and I'm not
so sure I'm on that bandwagon anymore.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Because it is about it is it is.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Yeah, it could be wimby because it is about how
great you play and stuff like that. And the perfect example,
uh right now is with the Dodgers. And you can
say whatever you want about show Hay and whatnot not
being from this country. He's the face of baseball and
everywhere he goes they sell out.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
I do think it's different, though, I.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Think hear me out, Okay, I think that you could
be that guy if you I don't play, if you're
a great player, I don't think the requirements are the same.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
The requirements in the NBA are your Shack, your Kobe,
you'r you're a face, you're spoke person, you speak out
about social issues, you do the meet and greets are
funny baseball. If you're just good, that's good enough. You
don't have to be.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
'm gonna tell you why, because we just talked about it.
Who played for the Angels forever and was the best
baseball player?
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Gun Trump? But he didn't have He didn't have that.
And what I'm saying is who's the face of baseball?
That was counter that?
Speaker 3 (21:46):
No, but I'm but I'm trying to say, it's not
show Hay is so different. I agree, Okay, that's what
I'm saying, Like, he's so different that if you, if
you love baseball, you want to know those How do you
not want to see this guy, especially if you want
to go to a ballpark when he's pitching that day
and he's hitting like it.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
So are you. But that's the way. But I'm caring
this conversation after what we got, Adam, let's go it.
Let's do this conversation. We'll come back to well we
could talk about tomorrow. Yeah, we'll do that. Steve the saga,
what's trending?
Speaker 12 (22:17):
Ha lower reminder of the NBA is off until the
Wednesday makeup game or into the Lakes. Most teams return
to play on Thursday at busy nine and men's college
hoops at b YU. Right now, Cougar is leading number
twenty three Kansas twenty five to twelve in the opening minutes.
Also in progress final seconds of the first half on
a f S one at number eleven Wisconsin Badgers ahead
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of Illinois forty seven to thirty nine, and about ten
minutes left in the game. At TCU, the home team
still ahead of number nine Texas Tech fifty to forty nine.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
I was hoping that Doug and his team was going
to go on a winning street. They had a game
not to night.
Speaker 12 (22:50):
Hung Yeah, I look at the top twenty five. I'm
not meaning to be offensive, asked.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
No, no, no, that looks at the top twenty five. You
don't look at the top two high und Collins basketball too.
Speaker 12 (23:02):
He's in I know he's in the Horizon League because
we've talked. There's only one Horizon game and it's Detroit.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Sorry don't catch you today.
Speaker 12 (23:09):
Mississippi State beat number seven texts State m seventy to
fifty four, and there was a Top fifteen matchup at
Michigan State tonight. Spartans beat produced seventy five sixty six.
This sets out the big Friday Night game on Fox TV,
where number twelve Michigan will be hosting number fourteen Michigan State,
and the Spartans are only a half game behind first
place Michigan right now.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
The Blue Jays.
Speaker 12 (23:30):
Failed to sign All Star Vladimir Guerrero Junior to an extension.
The first baseman's deadline was last night. Last month's Toronto
avoided arbitration with Guerrero Junior, so he'll earn twenty eight
and a half million dollars this year. He's been an
All Star for the past four seasons. The Cubs agreed
to sign veteran infielder Justin Turner to a one year deal.
The Cubs and Dodgers opened the regular season in March
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in Tokyo. That'll be on Fox for the first game
and FS one for the second game.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
Next month, The.
Speaker 12 (23:57):
Red Sox invited veteran reliever Adam Outove to spring training.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
He's thirty nine, and.
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The Carolina Panthers resigned quarterback Andy Dalton he's thirty seven,
started five games for him. Last year, Texan's running back
Joe Mixon won his appeal to have a playoff. Fine
rescinded the Browns cut running back nam Hine. Cincinnati gave
punter Ryan Reco a new two year deal.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
The reminder of.
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The PGA tours in Mexico this weekend, and Hockey's Four
Nations Faceoff concludes Thursday in Boston.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
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Speaker 3 (24:55):
Why Wisconsin and Illinois was on that replay game they're
playing the night so that was why they played that game.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
That's what it was. Yeah, okay, makes sense that they
made him like it was a great game or something.
It was a random twenty point blowout. Well they do,
but I do appreciate you staying on top of that.
We're joined now Adam Kaplan NFL Insider Serious XM Inside
the Birds podcast. You can follow him on Twitter, Kaplin
and NFL. Adam, what's up, brother, what's happening. Guy's going
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to talk to you as always always.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Let's uh talk some NFL some stuff. I guess franchise
tag the Bengals. Are they going to be able to
the claiming? Inside and everybody?
Speaker 1 (25:34):
And t Higgins? What's going on with the Bengals and that?
Speaker 3 (25:36):
All right?
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Any money?
Speaker 4 (25:37):
Yeah? Here, here's what's happened.
Speaker 6 (25:39):
I know a lot of people are gonna nothing's official yet,
but it's trending that way.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Here's the deal.
Speaker 6 (25:44):
So they drafted Jermaine Burton out of Alabama, and there
was a thought that he would replace him at the
time of last year's draft, and Burton just didn't mature enough.
And the Bengals have a history of going year to
year by player with players. They They've let a lot
of guys walk at compensatory picks that that that's always
something you look at with the Bengals, but they just
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don't have his replacement. So, by the way, it's a placeholder.
It's only a one year once he signed it, it's
a fully guaranteed deal, but it's only a placeholder. They
were not even close to an extension by July fifteenth,
which which is the deadline every year.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
And it's just just the.
Speaker 6 (26:24):
Way they do business. You talked about money, Rob, their
they're a team that more often than not does not
pay up. It's a mom and pop up. Yeah, it's
why they're not. They're just it's amazing. They've been one
super both Borrow despite the offensive line problems and so forth.
Their team that's not cash rich, they're not. They're they're
bottom ten team of available cash.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
Just the way it is.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
And when people don't even realize they practice outside up
until a couple of years ago, right am, I right out.
Speaker 6 (26:51):
Well I'm going to give another thing, Rob Okay, this
is talking the coaches over the years, so they're personal people.
Mike Brown when he more involved in the day to
day operation of personnel, Mike Brown was so cheap that
the coaches would do most of the scouting, which is absurd.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
They're coaches. He can't be doing that. So but they changed.
Speaker 6 (27:14):
They build a scouting staff over a number of years,
and Bill Tobinson Duke does a great job. He doesn't
have a GM title, but he's the acting general manager
as a personnel director. They actually draft well. They just
they let too many players walk. They don't build a
team the right way, by the way you have to.
They're another team that needs a copy off of what
Philly does. I don't know why it does not start
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with their offensive line. When you have an elite quarterback
like Joe Burrow, why do you not build a great
offensive line. They've never done that with Joe Burrow.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Yeah, I mean there in lies the question, and you
mentioned Philly, Adam, that was the reference that Joe Burrow did.
He said, why can't we kind of operate like them?
Everybody's getting paid over there, and guys seem to be happy.
I must witch gears and stay with another quarterback. Matthew Stafford.
What's happening here? The last couple of seasons. His wife
is chattering. He's trying to compete with us with the
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show he's got a couple of seasons where hey, you know,
maybe he didn't have the greatest expectation, but they got
to the postseason. If it weren't for a fumble, maybe
they're in the NFC Championship. Why isn't he getting the
money he thinks he wants or is he not happy?
Speaker 6 (28:17):
You know, guys, he's a really good football player. He's
still playing at a very high level. They had offensive
line problems. They actually played a young a lot of
young guys on the offensive line. Cooper Cup got hurt.
They're going to move Cooper Cup. Most lucky cut them.
They're trying to trade him. It's going to be hard.
I'll learn more. Went up to Combine next week. But
that's just a situation that they've dealt with now. They
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extended Stafford's contract three years ago. He's due for another
extension or reworking of his deal. They declined to do
it last year. They restructured it. They moved a little
bit of future money to last year. But it's not
going to play Cadum. He's only and I say only,
it's only going to make twenty seven million dollars this season.
That is well below what he should be making. And
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that's the struggle that they have with him and Matthew whose.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
Look, he's an older player.
Speaker 6 (29:05):
We know it at thirty seven years old, which he
just turned last week. They know that they have to
do one way or the other. He's either going to
get extended. They're going to be do with deal, or
he's gonna be traded.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
I can't see him.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
Extending him because last year, you remember, he almost didn't
come into camp and they had to do something right
before that.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
How was the money you're talking about like this.
Speaker 6 (29:26):
They got to do something because he has he only
has two years left. There's zero chance he plays on
twenty seven million, so that again, he's either going to
get traded or going to after you work it. But
here's the problem this is, and we'll talk more about
this in the coming weeks, but I could just give
you a little bit of a heads up the draft
for quarterbacks again, on paper, right now, they're two definitely
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going to go. Jackson Dard of Mississippi might go somewhere
between twenty and thirty two.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
He's got a chance to go in the first round.
He had a good.
Speaker 6 (29:55):
Senior Bowl week I was there, did really well or
that Jayalen Milroe should not touch the first round. I'd
be very he surprised if we went in the first round.
He's a he's a project for INCHC. He's a disaster.
Other than Sam Donald, it's pretty bad. You got Russell
Wilson justin fields. You're not going to make your money.
You're not going to figure out your quarterback situation if
you're the Rams and free agency at the draft right now.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
So they don't have a lot of choices.
Speaker 6 (30:18):
They have to be very very careful that they have
been competitive despite a very young ruster that's not very talented.
The coaching has been great by Sean mcvain's staff, but
they don't have a future quarterback.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
That is a major problem for their football team.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Hobboss speaking of quarterbacks, and you mentioned Sam Donald. If
you're the Vikings, you're not giving him a big deal,
are you?
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Or you right?
Speaker 3 (30:37):
I mean, like those two games really hurt him at
the end of it.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Did it?
Speaker 6 (30:41):
Did it didn't completely screw you know, It's not like
he was never going to be a fifty million a
year player. Like some people are scared people off from him. Well,
here's why, Rob So The thing with him he had
major problems with processing information, like on the field, like
he just would get stuck, he would stare at the
past target. He just never looked like a quality quarterback.
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He's only had one good year and it was terrific
up till the last regular season game, in the playoff game.
And now the Vikings still I'm told they want to
keep them. They might look at a bridge deal. They
like to keep them, but they're just they're having problems
figure out what the money should look like. So you
never say never hear him coming back, but they see
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the JJ McCarthy situation. They spent a first round pick.
Most people don't know this. He actually he looked great
in the game that he got hurt against the Raiders
in the first preseason game. But I'm told the final
two weeks before he got hurt, they felt he made
a big jump and then he had a major knee injury.
Troy Meniscus that he like him, they really do. But
Donald was so fascinating because I could tell you this,
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there was zero Chancellor walking away from Sam Darnold. If
he played lights out and didn't have these two bad games,
we're not having the stocking back. It changed everything. There's
no question it changes the way they look at it again.
They like to have him back. It's going to be hard,
and they have other issues on their roster. They by
the way, they really overachieved. They it was darnold, it
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was bron Flores's absolutely phenomenal.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
The defensive coordinator. They were way better than people thought
they would be.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
And but the scary part, as you go, is he
gonna do that again?
Speaker 6 (32:15):
Or was that just a coaching Yeah, Kevin O'Connell's like
the quarterback westper he he is a really good quarterbacks developer.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Hey, get you out of here on this one real quick, Adam.
I go to the Chiefs and Robin and I. We
don't agree on a lot, but we do agree that
at some point they got to help out Patrick Mahomes.
They got to get him some real But I don't
know if it's a Cooper.
Speaker 6 (32:35):
Come out to pass. The game has been regressing, guys,
It's so what's going on? What do they do to
fix it? Maybe the offensive better than this? Yeah, offensive
line is a pro. Trey Smith is going to stay
one way or the other. He used to tag or
sign toured extension. They don't have a left tackle. They
went through four guys. Joe Toney got handled their left
guard who moved to left tackle.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
That was a mistake.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
That was a mistake.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
Was that was Andy. Look, I'm a huge ani REDF fan,
but it was just not great coaching.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Yeah, and Andy had a bad Super Bowl. Well was
the game planning a big no early on and no adjustment.
Speaker 6 (33:08):
I'll deal with the running game, but that doesn't bother
as much as the problem left tackle. You knew you
knew coming into you had a problem right and then
they stuck with Joe Toooney.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
He was her left guard.
Speaker 6 (33:19):
He hadn't played left tackle since college eight years ago,
and he got handled. And at halftime they're down twenty
four to nothing. You got one more shot. Put in
DJ Humphreys at left tackle. That's what they should have done.
They didn't do it. Their past the games regrets the
last two seasons. Kelsey can't move well anymore.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
They don't want to retire.
Speaker 6 (33:36):
I got to tell you, I talked to someone who
knows him very well, and he said, if he gets
his ear, he's going to tell him to retire.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
Because when you look.
Speaker 6 (33:46):
Like this, when you know you're in your last legs,
your body tells you to retire. But the one thing
that players say they hate going out like that. That
was an embarrassing performance from the Chiefs. They like this kid,
Noah Gray, by the way, who's his backup? Who's look,
he's not close to what Kelsey was in his crime.
And that's a position they have to look at. But
the big thing for them is they they have to
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They have a couple offensive line pieces, by the way,
they need a running back. They have work to do.
Man Brett Fiazure, general manager. They based, Yeah, I have
a hard look. I know they have a long offseason.
Remember folks, the season doesn't start till September. But they've
got a lot of work to.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Do, all right, he is Adam Kaplan. Thank you so much.
Thanks for you fl on Twitter. We appreciate you as always.
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Good stuff, great music.
Speaker 8 (36:22):
Hey, can I give you a quick question and the
quick trash?
Speaker 10 (36:25):
Yes, who's the face.
Speaker 8 (36:27):
Of female basketball?
Speaker 7 (36:29):
Can you give me a name.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Right on?
Speaker 8 (36:34):
That's all I wanted to ask. And the thing about trash.
Speaker 10 (36:37):
The NBA they don't know what to do with.
Speaker 9 (36:39):
The All Star Game.
Speaker 8 (36:40):
You know what they should do?
Speaker 7 (36:41):
Bring it to China since they sold out to them.
Speaker 8 (36:44):
And you could bring that wrestler.
Speaker 7 (36:45):
John Cena and he could be a cheerleader.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Wow, his name is John c Thank you. Hey, we're
gonna get a bonus. Last call, Okay, last.
Speaker 7 (36:56):
Call, Last call?
Speaker 5 (37:06):
Time on the hand light.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
At Brian in Michigan. You're on the couple of Fox
Sports Radio. You're the second last call tonight.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
What's up?
Speaker 7 (37:15):
Hey, what's going on? Fallace? It's been a hot man.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
I know where you've been.
Speaker 7 (37:19):
I've been up here in Detroit minus two degree. But uh,
I want to go back to the to the face
of the n b A and you guys have had
a lot of segments on it. You know, I think
they're in trouble. I as Calvin, you know, some things
are and I test I mean Wemby. He doesn't have
the flair, he doesn't have I just don't think he
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can be the face of the NBA.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
Wait a minute, what you say about Wemby? Hold on,
we want to go ahead, Brian, Bryan called him the
tall guy from now on, so I don't have to
hear that that that song again.
Speaker 7 (37:55):
I just don't think he's got the flair, the showmanship
and that kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
Well, I'll say that. I say this, Bryan. I'll say this.
Everybody was worried when Jordan retired, right because it literally
the by far the boheman face of the league. And
then they found their way, they found their foot. Is
it gonna be Grand Hill? Is it gonna be you know,
this person is an Alan Iverson? And then they found
their way soon enough. So I get his point. But
these things tend to find themselves. They tend to work
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around me. You thought, man, Oh my gosh, Tom Brady,
he's been to Peyton, been the face of the league.
What are we gonna do? And here comes to Patrick
Mahomes And it's great because everybody's not gonna like the
face of the league. You need a little polarization to it.
So what do you what are you doing?
Speaker 8 (38:35):
No?
Speaker 1 (38:36):
No, I got an idea. I was thinking that I
wanted to share with you. Okay, you know, I got time.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
I was thinking about a new odd Couple T shirt. Okay,
and the front should say odd Couple in the back
low going everything in the back and in the front.
I've been covering the league since nineteen eighty seven.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
No, no, no, that you said for us? That is for you?
You that that's for you? No, no, no, no, that is a
huge shirt. And then we could do a shirt with
something that you set. Yeah, then we'll we'll do that
and I would want my own, So that'll be cool.
You've been covering it since nineteen eighty seven, that is you.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
You could say I've been covering the league since twenty
twenty three?
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Is that all?
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (39:17):
Is that?
Speaker 4 (39:18):
It?
Speaker 1 (39:18):
Don't disinfect me like that? In fact, this may twenty
years in the business. Wow, right, twenty years started, as
you know, the clear channel in Detroit, the conglomerates there
with WBS fan channel ninety five. Yeah, right, right, channel
ninety five to five. All that in Detroit is where
it started. Yeah, twenty years. When twenty years starting? Man,
I don't know exact day, but May early May. And
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I still got next year, which I'm celebrating the big
best of forty years in the game. Forty years covering
major League Baseball. Next, you've been covering longer than I've
been alive. Is that crazy? That's wild?
Speaker 3 (39:50):
Forty That is pretty well nineteen eighty six, so it
would be yeah, forty years and you know you're gonna.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
Put something together to where where are you going?
Speaker 5 (39:59):
Now?
Speaker 1 (39:59):
Where are we gonna be a where are you gonna
drag Steve to No, we'll do something, Steve. Are you
going back to the field of dreams or something we're
gonna do that'll be great. I don't know. Forty years
covering one sport? That is crazy. That is great. You
got a Hall of Fame card. You deserve it. Brother, Yes,
look at it. And you say I don't ever saying
thing nice about you? That's right by the way, or
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