November 4, 2024 • 37 mins
Rob and Kelvin provide up-to-the-minute analysis of the Monday Night Football game, discuss the locker room altercation involving Joel Embiid and a Philadelphia reporter and explain why the New York Giants will continue to rue the day they let Saquon Barkley leave in free agency. Plus, NFL on FOX podcast host David Helman swings by to discuss Lamar Jackson vs Derrick Henry in the NFL MVP race, whether Joe Burrow has what it takes to drag the Cincinnati Bengals to the postseason, Jayden Daniels’ breakout rookie season and much more!
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(01:13):
got seven to three, will give you a quick little update.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
You said the baseball game.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
No football game that scores a baseball, Oh, seven to three,
but this is in the Kansas City Royal verse.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
The Rays is going on here right now. But this
is what we talk about all the time. Now is
it seven? I've been riding? Come on, Pat, give me,
I'm trying.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
I don't got your guy daddy on here, Patrick Mahomes,
I'm over here, big upping you come on. Fourteen and
three going in a halftime will look a lot better
than this baseball scored. Is the Kansas City Royals versus
the Tampa Bay Rays right now, it's just.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Seven to three, about eight minutes to go in the half,
and it's a struggle offensively.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
It just is.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
We just saw Tampa score a touchdown. It was ken
the City up three to nothing, and now seven to
three and a Chief.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
You know it's good.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
But you've already seen this playbook, right like, we literally
know what's gonna happen. Wells are gonna score again, but
Baker is gonna do some nice plays. It's gonna come
down in the last five minutes with the Kansas City
Chiefs down five and here comes Patrick Mahomes. Is gonna
do two plays of Travis Kelce one to somebody else
they're gonna win the game.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Like there's a script. This is the script.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
It has been and every game, I think, rob g
every game under six points or whatever, like.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Yeah, and this is yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
And this is why, even though there's seven to zero,
I think I'm still a fan of Patrick Mahomes and
his team, and I still think their defense has been amazing,
clearly holding the Buccaneers only seven almost you know, as
we get inch closer to halftime. But this is where
I am concerned. If you're this is why I like
the Ravens, why I like, of course love the Lions.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Can you just blow somebody out?
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Can you just come in one time and just be
like smack smack smack and just with the final score
be you know, Kansas City thirty one, Buccaneers ten.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
It used to be like this. It is surprising that
they just haven't had that. And I get it. There's
some guys injured. Yeah, they got a bunch of injury,
but they got DeAndre Hopkins. He didn't do much in
his opener. This is got a few passes. Second game, Yeah,
we'll see.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
They got a whole second half and really half of
this second quarter to turn it up some. But yeah,
just to go on on it the days of just
Patrick Mahone's gonna throw for three seventy three, four touchdowns
and one interception, you know right now, But again at
the end of the day, and I do think there's
an element rob that they're everyone's super Bowl. You know,
it's like the Warriors for a while, every time they
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come into your town.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
This is it. Maybe this is our NBA Finals.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
We got to play Stephan the Warriors, and then you know,
you got your best game forward.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Okay, that was amazing.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
That was absolutely amazing about a thirty five yard pass
from Patrick Mahomes and DeAndre Hopkins. And that is why
Patrick Mahomes is Patrickwick. Four times a game. He does
something that very few others can do, like that play
there that makes me.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Still go, well, they're gonna win if.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
They have the ball, they're down, you know, less than
a touchdown, They're gonna win because of plays like this.
Not many people can make the throw he just made
the DeAndre Hopkins and then great catch by DeAndre Hopkins.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
My goodness, yeah, because it was three guys there. It's
unbelievable that he held on to it.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
And this is why they went and got a guy
like this, steady hands, reliable. He ain't DeAndre Hopkins of
five six years ago, but dang it, can I have
somebody with some steady hands that I can believe in
if you're Patrick Mahomes. But they'll probably score here and
again this is when you kind of say, this is
why they're hard to beat. They just they make the
right players at the right time. Defense is great, like spectacular,
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and this is what keeps them in games. And then
again it comes down to the final drive or two.
Who's better than he?
Speaker 4 (04:40):
But I also think that at some point that that
tree will wear out.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
That'll you know, like it'll just take one.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
If you remember when they lost to Cincinnati at home
to get to not to get to the super Bowl,
he threw an interception late in the game and the
Bengals beat them.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Like that the Bengals would be one team for some reason.
Joe Burrow plays them well and they that's the team too.
We both said this too. I'm still not surprised if
somehow they were to whoa SII was hating? Uh if
get out our phone call radio show?
Speaker 3 (05:10):
What is this now? Series? Been doing that lately? I
don't know what's going on, right because I didn't even
do anything. I was just trying to make you now
know what's going on. Steve Jobs is rolling around his
grave with the way Siries been acting lately. All right,
let's let's get here, rob g.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
I want to bring you in on Joe l embiid
and and what's happened uh in Philadelphia because there there's
a storyline here that's not good and the NBA is
going to have to address it, I guess on some point.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Yeah, and I get it.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
And let me tell you, Uh, you know, they questioned
whether or not he wants to play or not, you know,
because he's already kind of put out there that he doesn't.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
He just want to play back.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
To back games and all that kind of stuff. So
there's that part. But then, uh, he got into an
altercation with a reporter, a guy we've had on this
show many times.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Yeah, and a guy who's.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
A he's been around, you know, and it's not like
some guy out of nowhere and some guy who's flying
off to this is like the guy who's there all
the time for them.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
So I think that was part of the problem.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
To go ahead, Rogie, sure, So, as you guys mentioned,
the frustrations have been boiling over for Himbid basically for
months now, because you know, he was taking a lot
of heat in the Olympics for not playing for France.
He was taking a lot of heat here in America
because he was gimpy when he was out there, and
the team was clearly better when he wasn't playing and
ad wasn't playing it instead. Well, flash forward his training camp,
and even though he was not on the injury report
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at all during preseason, the team declared preemptively that he
would miss the first few weeks of the season and
he would not be playing back to backs this season
as part of a ramp up slash load management plan.
So he's been kind of ornery since then. Well, things
boiled over on Thursday, actually is when this column came
out by Marcus.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
A's part of it read here's the quote.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
Embiid consistently points to the birth of his son, Arthur,
as the major inflection point in his basketball career. He
often says that he wants to be great to leave
a legacy for the boy named after his little brother,
who tragically died in an automobile accident. When Embiid was
in his first year as a seventy six er. Well,
in order to be great at your job, you first
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have to show up for work. That quote did not
go over well with Embiid, And as you guys mentioned,
when Embiid saw him in the locker room on Saturday
ran up on him. They had some words. It was
first reported that Embiid punched him, ended up being a
hard shove with one hand. People were separated, and b
(07:46):
had to have security come and escort him out of
the locker room. The security, at one point of quoting
multiple reports, tried to say, hey, would you please not
report this as an incident. Obviously that could not be
done and I had a good public and we'll see
what happens because the league is currently investigating the situation.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Well, I'm gonna say this as a reporter and a
guy who's been doing it for almost forty years, and
I've been in every locker room, every situation as a
columnist in Detroit and New York, and I've had to
write those columns and whatnot. A player can never put
his hands on a reporter. It's just I don't care
what you don't like or you want to have a conversation.
(08:27):
I've had people scream on me and all that kind
of stuff, and I'm fine with that because I'll show
up and I'll be in the locker room in the
clubhouse to deal with that.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
If I'm gonna put my name on it and I'm
going to write about somebody and say they're yay or
nay or whatever it may be, you got to stand
up to that. But physical altercations can never be accepted.
And the NBA will have to suspend him for going
physical because you put a lot of people in jeopardy
and it's just not a good look for the league.
(08:58):
Even if you don't like I can understand whenever you
want to mention somebody in somebody's life, especially someone who's passed,
that's a tough pill to swallow or have to relive
or And maybe he could have still made the point
without going that route. So I'm not saying that that
was the best way that Marcus could have written that
(09:22):
column or whatnot.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
But I still will stand by Marcus.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
That embiid can say, hey, I want to have a
conversation with you. I don't appreciate it. I once had
an incident with Lou Panella when he was the manager
of the Reds where he came out of his office screaming,
calling me every name in a book in front of
everybody in the clubhouse. You know, but he didn't touch me,
you know what I'm saying. And I think there's a
(09:47):
conversation to be had if you're not happy with something.
But never never, ever physical. So I echoed the sentiments
of never physical. But I'll say this, I think, and
he said this, he said the next time. You know,
I'm willing to take whatever consequence comes with it. And
I think two things can be true. And should never
(10:10):
absolutely should never touch a reporter. It's not necessary, it's
not worth it.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
But on the flip side, I think sometimes you as
an individual feel like it's worth it. And like, you know,
like if a fan throws a beer at you, somebody
could say, well, you know, it's come on, it's just
not a fan.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
It's not worth you the player.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
That player may feel like it was worth going in
there smacking a fan. And I'm not saying shit, I
can't get with that, right But listen, I'm not saying you,
but everybody has a thing in their life where they go, Nah,
it's worth it. And when he put his brother in
there with his child, the deceased brother, and I think
(10:47):
it's I think Marcus caught the brunt of everything. I
think Embiad is upset with himself and his body for
giving out on him, that he's always in this injury
prone situation. I think Embid is mad at the fans
because he seems like I've given you all your turning
on me. I think Embiid is mad with the media
for saying these things about them, but he's like, yo,
I give my all, I play out, I play through injuries.
I almost got my face broken twice, Like what more
(11:07):
do you want from me? And Marcus was that final
straw on that Campbell's back that broke it and he
shouldn't attack him. But I think and Bead's mind, I'll
pay the fine one hundred thousand dollars or two games
suspension whatever. It's not to make a point. It's that
you're not gonna talk about my deceased brother. I'm not
saying he should, but I'm saying I think every human
(11:28):
has a thing that they go I'm willing to pay
the fine, the thing suspension for this and we all
have it, you.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Know, whatever it may be, I don't I would never
be physical. I'm just telling you, no matter what you
said to me, really, I'm dead serious, because I don't
think that. Like, like, I've seen guys lose their jobs
doing baseball play by play a physical altercation. They both
lost their jobs in their careers from or at least
(11:55):
hurt themselves and being physical. So I do understand why
there's a breaking point and you might have that conversation
or you might I'm never gonna go and attack you
and come over the table live on.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
YouTube or whatever. I'm just telling you I wouldn't do that.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
But what about the example I gave of, like you know,
and it's not apples to apples because we're talking about
in b situations. But I'm saying, like, you know, if
you're Rob Parker is Ron our test at the time,
this is before he was meta, and you already in
the heated thing and you about it. I'm trying to
be better. Let me go lay down and I'm trying
to be better. I'm trying and a beer comes at you.
Are you that cool? Collect?
Speaker 3 (12:33):
So you're just that individual?
Speaker 4 (12:35):
Because what people never liked the malice at the palace.
What people don't understand when you throw a chair into
the crowd, What if you had a four year old
boy in the head, Like like, I'm dead serious, right, like,
you can never ever cross that barrier no matter what.
I'm dead serious. And I'm talking about now when the
(12:57):
fan came down on the.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Floor tests and here he.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Ron first, yeah, but but that But but now you're
in my domain, you're in my doing.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
You don't climb up into do you see what I'm saying.
What you're saying, I just like to protect yourself. Now
someone's in the court, running towards running towards.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Me, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Okay, that's a that's something that's human nature to want
to protect yourself, not to go up and incite or
or attack someone who's.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
In there, you know what I mean. Like in another domain,
I think I completely get you.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
I think not I think most people would be with you,
But I do just think there's a certain point when
he kind of crosses the line for people that they
have and so him already going through it self inflicted,
his body's giving out all these things.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
The team's playing bad.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
I think they've only won one game, you feel like
you're you're responsible for it. And then you got this
guy who he mentioned, he said, he said, you're always
doing this, so if you don't have a history of
maybe them going at it. And then you mentioned my
deceased brother and you mentioned my child. I just can
I see that happening. Not the right thing to do.
Philadelphia has to suspend him for whatever it is, a
game or two. Uh, the NBA has to come down
(14:06):
and find him and suspend him, because you can't set
this president of Hey, you don't like what a guy
said about you in an article now and then you
go get the.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
And there you go, and that that's exactly what happens.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Is you gotta be careful with this because if he
gets away with it, you are going to open up
a flood.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Jack Wilson and Draymond looking like yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
And and even when you think about it, just be
honest and think about it.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
And I've done it in the very.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
Seldom and forty years of doing this, have I seen
people get physical with a writer?
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Do you see what I'm saying?
Speaker 4 (14:42):
You might scream on them, threaten him, you can throw
all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
But physically like once that's that's crossing the boy. What
was the guy me and Robins talking about this?
Speaker 1 (14:52):
This was the announcer I forgot his name, Big time
baseball announcer who Deion Sanders threw the whole big water
cooler on Tim, the late Tim mccarr. Yeah, the car
was like real classy Dion when he dumped the water cooler.
But Dion didn't hit him over the head with the
water cooler snow. I don't know, would you rather get
would you rather get pushed one time? Or I'm trying
to do my job. I'm talking about this was not
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in celebration celebration, but.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
I'm talking about banging his head like taking a cooler
and hitting them all Deon on that crazy is what
I'm trying to say.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
You wanted to all right eight seven.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Seven ninety nine on Fox, We definitely want to hear
ye hear from you on this eight seven seven nine
nine six sixty three sixty nine. Was Joe elmb justified
for shoving that reporter and what kind of punishment should
he face from the NBA? Moving forward? We'll continue that
conversation on this Magic City Monday. Rob Parker along with
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conversation about Joel Embiid pushing a writer who had some
things to say about uh. The kind of tried to
find a correlation between Embiid's desire to be better, but
also his pat brother who is deceased, and also his
young son who he named after his brother, and there's
(16:51):
when the conflict ensues. He pushes them, how should the
NBA handle it? If at all your thoughts? Eight seven,
seven ninety nine On Fox, we'll talk about it.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Who we asked?
Speaker 4 (17:01):
Uh, let's go with Chili Tim in Atlanta. You're on
the couple a couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
What's up? Tim?
Speaker 6 (17:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (17:08):
What up? What up? Up? What's going on? Hey? Okay,
First of all, let men ask you this. Do you
guys see what happened on game day with Travis Kelsey
and the fan with the phone.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Ke Yeah, we saw that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. People are
wilding out, man, People are willing.
Speaker 7 (17:26):
So that's my point is like sometimes I think, you know,
back in the day, when people you're sitting at Mama's
Basic Babe Spaseman right on blogs, you know, they didn't
come out. But now it's like people are coming out
saying people say a lot of things. And that guy
could have stopped at a point in saying, OK, you
just make your you know, are you living up to
what you're saying you wanted to do? But then he
(17:46):
had to go in and add the next part and
then that made it personal. So like the thing would be.
You can say what you want to say, but then
when you start getting personal and people start feeling like
it's personal. Now, I'm not saying he's just a fact
when he did, but I understand it.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
I just don't.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
There's a conversation. And like I said, I've been doing
this for forty years. People have yelled at me and
not liked what I've written about them. Okay, So I
get that part. Never physical, tim just never physical, and
that is the part that the NBA has to be
careful of.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Yeah, we'll say how to handle it. I think, uh,
it's again one of those things. I think Joel embiid
if you ask him, I think he said he'd do
it again. But also if you're the NBA of the
Philadelphia seventy six ers, however, you.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Gotta be careful too, because you could wind up do
something crazy.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
You could wind up putting the league in a team
also in a trick bag.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
So you know I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
I think I'm just saying if if if they don't
handle it, if they don't handle it.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
They got to because they all got exposed. I think
they're trying to Huh, maybe we can just get married
with this. It got out there too much. One more
call real quick. Who we got MJ in New Orleans?
D on the odd Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
What's up? MJ?
Speaker 7 (18:56):
Going on?
Speaker 3 (18:58):
What's up? Man? We're gonna see you a super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Ton, you better come by Fox Sports Radio down in
New Orleans.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Hold on, MJ.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
You gotta make sure me and Robert trying to gain
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us the best place to eat.
Speaker 6 (19:11):
Oh, no doubt, Professor Rob just s, I'm mena ticket, man,
I'm in there.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
All right, let's do it all. Let make it happen.
Speaker 6 (19:17):
That'd be Magic City limits teper monthy. Yes, hey man,
this was terrible, Like Chuck would say. Mdeed, the self proclaimed.
Speaker 8 (19:27):
Trust the process should now.
Speaker 6 (19:30):
Be known as the ndt DK, the no back to
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weigh will process the process accordingly and swiftly. You guys
have a great show. Man, Thank you all.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
I appreciate you. Be listening to you too long tumping
up all these acronyms. Yes, I can't keep up with
all your the load of the goat motete what in
the hoa? The minisode of the goat of loats man,
you better you are the goats of loats and the
acronisms my good. We'll see what the league ends up
doing and if the seventy six or try, you know how,
sometimes you're trying to handle themselves, so it's not as
bad too.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
Yeah, it's I don't know if they can do it
now once us out there. Yeah, because they have to.
And if you're the writers, the Basketball Writers Association, there's
no way of your presidents to be okay with that. Yeah,
you're gonna be okay with that, and you're gonna make
sure that the league does that. And because you don't
want to set a.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Precedent ToJ you, Russell, Westbrook and Draymond are definitely watching
to see how the league handles this. David Hellman, host
of the NFL on Fox podcast, is gonna join us
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Speaker 3 (20:56):
What's up, David?
Speaker 8 (20:58):
Anytime you all get to be on What's going on?
Speaker 3 (21:00):
No doubt.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
No, we've been having a great conversations all day about football,
and of course with the NFL action that happened this weekend,
you can jump in on this conversation too. We've been
talking about right now, we know the NFL just gives
the MVP to a quarterback pick Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson,
Aaron Rodgers, whoever it is all the time. What do
you think about Derek Henry, who might be sitting here saying,
(21:22):
hey man, I might rush of two thousand, you are
twenty touchdowns. He looks ridiculous right now. Any chance anybody
other than a quarterback, specifically even Lamar Jackson gets it.
Speaker 8 (21:32):
This is really fitting timing because that's actually something we're
talking about on our latest episode of the NFL on
Fox Podcast.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
I felt that, Madam. I felt it tomorrow.
Speaker 8 (21:42):
Yeah, I appreciate that. That's perfect synergy. I think it's
a great question, man, and I do think that is
that's my biggest question about Lamar Jackson's MVP candidacy, because
as good as he was last year, he's blowing all
of his benchmarks from last season out of the water. Yes,
on pace for you know, his first four thousand yard
passing season, his career high in touchdowns, all this good stuff.
(22:05):
But how do you parse out the fact that Derrick
Henry's on pace for two thousand yards and twenty touchdowns
and looks like the runaway offensive player of the year.
I'm going to be curious to see how that goes
because I agree with your premise. I think it's going
to take a lot to take the MVP away from
a quarterback. But you've got this two headed monster in
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Baltimore where, you know, I'm not willing to say that
I think Derek Henry wins MVP, but he's such a
crucial part of taking this Baltimore offense to another level.
And I do wonder if they'll have split votes or
you know, if Derek Henry will attract enough attention that
it hurts Lamar's own MVP candidacy. It's a very interesting
situation to watch, but at the end of the day,
(22:50):
I'm leaning quarterback though.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
Yeah, and the other thing too, is you just talked
about it. Even Lebar last year didn't have like ie
pop in numbers, and then a couple of years ago
with Derek Henry, he didn't even get one vote. You
remember what was that two years back where he was
having a great year and people were making that push
that maybe it's time for a running back to get
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an MVP. It's been since twenty twelve. This is a
quarterback league. I think it's hard for running back to
win it.
Speaker 8 (23:22):
Here's I mean, what would have to happen is Derrick
Henry has to keep doing this and I think he
will for the record, But if Lamar keeps putting up
these numbers, then I mean it's a completely different conversation.
I think it would take a running back having this
type of season as the pure focal point on his
team and also you know, getting to eleven, twelve, thirteen
(23:44):
wins on the year. I think it would take all
of that stuff without having a quarterback who's playing equally well.
And look, I think a big part of it is
Derrick Henry. But man, Lamar Jackson is playing incredible football
right now, Like he's playing the best football of his career,
and he's a two time MVP. That's kind of scary
to think about.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Hey, let me ask you about the Cincinnati Bengals. They
won a big game, but their four and five got
off to a really bad start.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Are they still alive?
Speaker 4 (24:15):
Are they still Obviously that's a tough division because the
Steelers are there, the Ravens, Steelers six and two, raven
six and three, Bengals four and five, and then you
got the Browns, you know, bringing up the rear. Where
are the Bengals are there in lux? I mean in flux?
Or are they still alive?
Speaker 3 (24:31):
To you?
Speaker 8 (24:32):
I think they're absolutely alive. I mean when you have
Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase playing the way they are,
And honestly, again, we did a whole episode about MVP candidates,
Joe Burrow would be in the thick of the MVP
race if the Bengals had come out on the right
side of a couple more games. I mean, it's mind
boggling that they lost to New England to open the season,
and even the first time they played Baltimore, Lamar Jackson
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handed Cincinnati that game on a silver platter in overtime
and they couldn't capitalize on it. It's not hard to
imagine a world where Cincinnati is six and three instead
of four and five. My big question for them is
getting their defense pull it together enough to let Joe
and Jamar drag them to the playoffs, because I think
that's what's gonna what it's gonna take. And you know,
(25:16):
they play in Baltimore on Thursday night. It's a big
opportunity to show that they've grown here over the last
three or four weeks. But I'm gonna need to see
better performance on the defensive side of the ball.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Before I was gonna say that's my issue with the Bengals.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Yeah, I know, Joe has gonna have a couple of
times where he looked at the defenseve hello, are we
trying to win or no? We of course, joined by
David Helpin, host of the NFL on Fox podcast again
David helping underscore on X. I go to a team
and a quarterback that may say, hey, hey, hey, Rob
Kelvin and David, you are just gonna ignore me when
it comes to MVP. But more importantly than anything, he
has his team playing great at seven and two. That
(25:52):
is Jaden Daniels another good game fifteen to twenty two
two hundred nine yards a couple of touchdowns. Obviously, he
rushes for another thirty five more importantly, gets to win
a divisional wagons and MVP. Are you well, I'm saying,
I'm sure he's thinking, if I keep playing like this
throughout the season.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
He looks great.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
I mean obviously great, pretty much runaway rookie of the year.
But what have you seen from him and just this
Commander's team? How real are they?
Speaker 8 (26:17):
You know, as a very proud, obnoxious lsu Alum, I
was a big believer in Jaden Daniels, but I still
didn't see this level of success coming right away. You know,
I thought Jayden would be good. I thought his dual
threat ability would would buy him some time and help
him settle into the NFL. I I'll be honest, I
(26:38):
didn't see him being this efficient, this explosive, this confident,
this early in his career. It's been incredible to watch,
and I think it's a valid point. Like when you
put Jaden's numbers up against Lamar and Josh Allen and
Jared Goff, it sounds premature to say that he's an
MVP candidate, but man, the Commanders are seven and two
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for the first time since nineteen ninety six, their offense
is one of the most efficient in the NFL. I mean,
these guys never punned, and even if the raw numbers
aren't quite as impressive, like Jadon Daniels is putting together
a season where if they keep this going, I think
people are going to be banging the drum loudly for
(27:22):
him to be in that conversation. It's it sounds crazy
because we're just not used to seeing that from rookies.
But I mean, if you tell me that Washington gets
the twelve plus wins and Jayden plays this way down
the entire stretch, he absolutely deserves to be mentioned.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
See here's my issue with this is that if you
have a bad game mixed in with that, you know
what I mean, Like, that's what takes you out a lot.
And Lamar could have a bad game or whatever and
then ridiculous one and then come back with a ridiculous game,
and you're not quick to dismiss him because of his history,
you know what I mean, and his pedigree, And I
(27:57):
think that's where because I saw that last year, I thought,
and stop me, David, if you think I'm wrong. I
thought the last that Christmas Night game where Baltimore went
to San Francisco, right, And in that game, everybody was
talking about Rock Proty as MVP, and he had a stinker.
And I do believe that it was decided that night.
(28:20):
Rock Proty had four interceptions, you remember, and Lamar looked
great and they won that game. And I think for
people who don't have that or have won one or
two bad games, takes you out of that conversation.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Is that fair enough?
Speaker 8 (28:33):
No, I think that's totally fair. And look, the dirty
little secret is that the MVP award, for better or
for worse, it goes to a quarterback, and it goes
to the quarterback who typically wins the most games. Like
you're gonna see this award given out to a number
one or number two seed in the playoffs, right, almost always?
And yeah, and with that in mind, it's about how
(28:54):
you perform in those big window games. Whether it's Monday night,
Sunday night, late on the afternoon, you're gonna play one
or two of those games in front of the entire country,
and for better or for worse, a lot of it's
going to be decided on how you play. And I
think that's a really good point. Jaden doesn't have the
full body of work to fall back, right, So a.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
Bad night, a bad day at the office, will people
will be like, Okay, that's yeah, not yet there.
Speaker 8 (29:23):
Let me let me counter with this though. What if
What if Jaden gets into one of those games and
plays great, and then you've got the groundswell of it
is an incredible story that you know, Washington has good
vibes around it and a winning record for the first
time in so many years. I don't ultimately think this
will happen, but I can picture a world where let's
(29:44):
say Washington goes twelve and five and Jaden plays incredible
the way he did against Cincinnati, if you know, a
couple of months ago, I can see it.
Speaker 9 (29:53):
That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
He's got some big games, guys. Okay, Steelers coming up,
the Eagles twice. He can really make some noise. U.
Let me ask one last thing here, David. We want
to ask.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
I mean, we already know Saquon Barkley put it on
the Giants when back but two weeks ago, remember that, right,
and and had more more yards than the entire Giants offense.
And then we saw what he did yesterday, But then
we flip over to Daniel Jones when the Giants decided
that that was the guy that wanted to sign and whatnot.
And it's just been a disaster with Daniel Jones. And
(30:25):
I'm not blaming it all on him, But how bad
is this Giants team offensively?
Speaker 8 (30:32):
Yeah, I mean I think we're heading for a full
reset with the Giants offense. And I think, yeah, I
felt that way before the season, and the first eight
nine weeks of the season have only emphasized that for me,
and I am I'm curious to see. You know, John Morow,
the owner of the Giants, already came out and said
he doesn't want to fire Brian Dable and Joe Shane,
which means I assume they're going to oversee how this goes.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
How can you not fight a gl I'm dead serious.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
I mean, remember I we played then the owner m
talking about man, if he goes to Philly, this is
gonna be the worst thing. You know, he's our biggest,
our fans of him the most. Hey, David, thank you
so much. We appreciatiate you.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
My man.
Speaker 8 (31:08):
Yeah, anytime, y'all.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Thanks all right.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
David Helman, host of NFL on Fox Podcast. We can
continue that conversation plus last call about just Sakwon Barkley
is rubbing it in the faces of the Giants organization.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
I mean, I mean I jumping over people. That was ridiculous.
I mean I never saw that where I had his
back to a defense.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
You and I have watched all the Barry Sanders runs,
and I think he's the best running back ever and
maybe the greatest highlight of all time.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
But he ain't even Barry. I ain't never even did that.
That was insane.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
That was the craziest thing, all right, eight seven, seven,
ninety nine on Fox Last Call?
Speaker 1 (31:40):
When to get those last calls in? Jump in on
that will take one for that. Also again, if we
talk a little bit more about what Saquon Barkley's doing.
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I set up the Pistons closed plus nine and they
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Wow, I have to get on you right now.
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Look, he's writing out some people mad that they didn't
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Glad? That's been happy. Yeah, I've never been happier that
they didn't win. The Bakers they throw in an extra
donut in the bat. No, we know what it is.
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I'm gonna challenge him at some point. All right, same
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You're on the odd Couple of Hobo and guess what
you're the last call on the odd Couple.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Yeah, you same o.
Speaker 9 (34:11):
Like three weeks ago. Man, I know the show though, Hey,
bro man me or y'all really think like the Giants
always drafts supid man.
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Speaker 3 (34:27):
Right? Oh?
Speaker 9 (34:30):
People, we always draft super I think we could have
been Daniel job right now to day.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Thanks for the same. I appreciate it. Man, No have
some talent ages, aren't there? Not handling things right?
Speaker 4 (34:45):
I just but but that Daniel Jones thing, that was
the first guest.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Everybody knew that they made a mistake, not right and that,
and then Armstrong reached and the general manager comes out, well,
you know, with his charts and telling everybody, well, you
know what y'all at age twenty.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
Seven, they start to deteriorate and go the other way.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Really, if the Eagles key winning, he's in the MVP
candidate conversation, it's not about winning. And my point is
that's how good he's been. This is the guy that, yeah, listen, man,
are running backs as expendable or you know.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
You can get it him running?
Speaker 1 (35:19):
When you see something exceptional, rob you know what I mean?
Like like, yes, quarterbacks mean more, duh, we know that.
But when you see a Derrick Henry, a healthy Christian McCaffrey,
a Saquon Barkley, Uh, what's my man in the colts
right now?
Speaker 3 (35:34):
Jonathan Taylor?
Speaker 1 (35:35):
When you get a few you know, five six seven
backs where you're like, all right, he's different, then you
hold on to that because again you got some guaranteed
for a few years, especially if your quarterbacks Daniel Jones. Now,
if I got to make a decision between Patrick Mahomes
and Lamar Jackson or somebody, Okay, that's a different conversation.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
But Daniel Jones and.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Saquan what the reason Daniel Jones was even halfway I
that season was because of.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Who s quon?
Speaker 4 (35:59):
And no, forget even that year he had fifteen touchdowns
in seventeen games. He didn't blow it away, rob g
what do he beat Minnesota in the playoffs and they
had like the worst defense in the league that it
wasn't again like he was bawling out.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
So yeah, I think, man, sometimes you can outthink yourself,
you know what I mean. You can just try to
be too smart. You trying to be the smartest guy.
I didn't get that. I thought that was ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
And they didn't want to pay Sakuan and then they're
gonna be mad, like Tiki Barber was mad at him
for going to Philly.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
Mad y'all don't want to and it's a disrespect, Like
it's not like we had this grazing six seven, eight
year run and with just you know, I don't even
want to leave. But it's just the way it is
right now, did I get him?
Speaker 6 (36:39):
Like?
Speaker 3 (36:39):
Man, why'd you go to the enemy? Man?
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Y'all want me and y'all want him. Man, I'm out
who want who wants me? In Philadelphia? Look at them
now six and two. They're righting the ship by the way,
getting things going. Nick Sirianni, I don't know. He's still
a little nervous. He's making some man.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
He is thake. He has got the Dan campbellitis right now.
He is man.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
He's making some terrible decisions out there. Man, going for
it fourth and going forward, not kicking field goals and
going for a two point conversions.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
He is making Dan Campbell look like a genius. He's
already set itself up.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
If they have a bad play three weeks playoff, he'll
be He'll be five.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
He knows he's set up. He can he knows. You
can sense by his reactions every time he does something.
Remember his reaction arguing with the crowd, maybe I need
to rethink something. And then now the bad decisions. He
made this call and almost lost in the game. They
were up twenty two to nothing. They had a nerve
to lose this game. If they don't throw an interception,
which just happen. Did you just see the stat they
just put up? The Chiefs have been held scoreless three
(37:34):
straight third quarters in a row, like like the game
is twenty one. Patrick Mahomes rolling around his grave, right,
And I know Travis Kelsey fumbled one more time.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
He got he got it, he kept it for those games.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Trash talking Tuesday tomorrow, I've been trash talking whatever.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
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(01:13):
got seven to three, will give you a quick little update.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
You said the baseball game.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
No football game that scores a baseball, Oh, seven to three,
but this is in the Kansas City Royal verse.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
The Rays is going on here right now. But this
is what we talk about all the time. Now is
it seven? I've been riding? Come on, Pat, give me,
I'm trying.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
I don't got your guy daddy on here, Patrick Mahomes,
I'm over here, big upping you come on. Fourteen and
three going in a halftime will look a lot better
than this baseball scored. Is the Kansas City Royals versus
the Tampa Bay Rays right now, it's just.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Seven to three, about eight minutes to go in the half,
and it's a struggle offensively.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
It just is.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
We just saw Tampa score a touchdown. It was ken
the City up three to nothing, and now seven to
three and a Chief.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
You know it's good.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
But you've already seen this playbook, right like, we literally
know what's gonna happen. Wells are gonna score again, but
Baker is gonna do some nice plays. It's gonna come
down in the last five minutes with the Kansas City
Chiefs down five and here comes Patrick Mahomes. Is gonna
do two plays of Travis Kelce one to somebody else
they're gonna win the game.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Like there's a script. This is the script.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
It has been and every game, I think, rob g
every game under six points or whatever, like.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Yeah, and this is yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
And this is why, even though there's seven to zero,
I think I'm still a fan of Patrick Mahomes and
his team, and I still think their defense has been amazing,
clearly holding the Buccaneers only seven almost you know, as
we get inch closer to halftime. But this is where
I am concerned. If you're this is why I like
the Ravens, why I like, of course love the Lions.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Can you just blow somebody out?
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Can you just come in one time and just be
like smack smack smack and just with the final score
be you know, Kansas City thirty one, Buccaneers ten.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
It used to be like this. It is surprising that
they just haven't had that. And I get it. There's
some guys injured. Yeah, they got a bunch of injury,
but they got DeAndre Hopkins. He didn't do much in
his opener. This is got a few passes. Second game, Yeah,
we'll see.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
They got a whole second half and really half of
this second quarter to turn it up some. But yeah,
just to go on on it the days of just
Patrick Mahone's gonna throw for three seventy three, four touchdowns
and one interception, you know right now, But again at
the end of the day, and I do think there's
an element rob that they're everyone's super Bowl. You know,
it's like the Warriors for a while, every time they
(03:35):
come into your town.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
This is it. Maybe this is our NBA Finals.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
We got to play Stephan the Warriors, and then you know,
you got your best game forward.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Okay, that was amazing.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
That was absolutely amazing about a thirty five yard pass
from Patrick Mahomes and DeAndre Hopkins. And that is why
Patrick Mahomes is Patrickwick. Four times a game. He does
something that very few others can do, like that play
there that makes me.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Still go, well, they're gonna win if.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
They have the ball, they're down, you know, less than
a touchdown, They're gonna win because of plays like this.
Not many people can make the throw he just made
the DeAndre Hopkins and then great catch by DeAndre Hopkins.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
My goodness, yeah, because it was three guys there. It's
unbelievable that he held on to it.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
And this is why they went and got a guy
like this, steady hands, reliable. He ain't DeAndre Hopkins of
five six years ago, but dang it, can I have
somebody with some steady hands that I can believe in
if you're Patrick Mahomes. But they'll probably score here and
again this is when you kind of say, this is
why they're hard to beat. They just they make the
right players at the right time. Defense is great, like spectacular,
(04:35):
and this is what keeps them in games. And then
again it comes down to the final drive or two.
Who's better than he?
Speaker 4 (04:40):
But I also think that at some point that that
tree will wear out.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
That'll you know, like it'll just take one.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
If you remember when they lost to Cincinnati at home
to get to not to get to the super Bowl,
he threw an interception late in the game and the
Bengals beat them.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Like that the Bengals would be one team for some reason.
Joe Burrow plays them well and they that's the team too.
We both said this too. I'm still not surprised if
somehow they were to whoa SII was hating? Uh if
get out our phone call radio show?
Speaker 3 (05:10):
What is this now? Series? Been doing that lately? I
don't know what's going on, right because I didn't even
do anything. I was just trying to make you now
know what's going on. Steve Jobs is rolling around his
grave with the way Siries been acting lately. All right,
let's let's get here, rob g.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
I want to bring you in on Joe l embiid
and and what's happened uh in Philadelphia because there there's
a storyline here that's not good and the NBA is
going to have to address it, I guess on some point.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Yeah, and I get it.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
And let me tell you, Uh, you know, they questioned
whether or not he wants to play or not, you know,
because he's already kind of put out there that he doesn't.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
He just want to play back.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
To back games and all that kind of stuff. So
there's that part. But then, uh, he got into an
altercation with a reporter, a guy we've had on this
show many times.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Yeah, and a guy who's.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
A he's been around, you know, and it's not like
some guy out of nowhere and some guy who's flying
off to this is like the guy who's there all
the time for them.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
So I think that was part of the problem.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
To go ahead, Rogie, sure, So, as you guys mentioned,
the frustrations have been boiling over for Himbid basically for
months now, because you know, he was taking a lot
of heat in the Olympics for not playing for France.
He was taking a lot of heat here in America
because he was gimpy when he was out there, and
the team was clearly better when he wasn't playing and
ad wasn't playing it instead. Well, flash forward his training camp,
and even though he was not on the injury report
(06:37):
at all during preseason, the team declared preemptively that he
would miss the first few weeks of the season and
he would not be playing back to backs this season
as part of a ramp up slash load management plan.
So he's been kind of ornery since then. Well, things
boiled over on Thursday, actually is when this column came
out by Marcus.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
A's part of it read here's the quote.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
Embiid consistently points to the birth of his son, Arthur,
as the major inflection point in his basketball career. He
often says that he wants to be great to leave
a legacy for the boy named after his little brother,
who tragically died in an automobile accident. When Embiid was
in his first year as a seventy six er. Well,
in order to be great at your job, you first
(07:25):
have to show up for work. That quote did not
go over well with Embiid, And as you guys mentioned,
when Embiid saw him in the locker room on Saturday
ran up on him. They had some words. It was
first reported that Embiid punched him, ended up being a
hard shove with one hand. People were separated, and b
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had to have security come and escort him out of
the locker room. The security, at one point of quoting
multiple reports, tried to say, hey, would you please not
report this as an incident. Obviously that could not be
done and I had a good public and we'll see
what happens because the league is currently investigating the situation.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Well, I'm gonna say this as a reporter and a
guy who's been doing it for almost forty years, and
I've been in every locker room, every situation as a
columnist in Detroit and New York, and I've had to
write those columns and whatnot. A player can never put
his hands on a reporter. It's just I don't care
what you don't like or you want to have a conversation.
(08:27):
I've had people scream on me and all that kind
of stuff, and I'm fine with that because I'll show
up and I'll be in the locker room in the
clubhouse to deal with that.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
If I'm gonna put my name on it and I'm
going to write about somebody and say they're yay or
nay or whatever it may be, you got to stand
up to that. But physical altercations can never be accepted.
And the NBA will have to suspend him for going
physical because you put a lot of people in jeopardy
and it's just not a good look for the league.
(08:58):
Even if you don't like I can understand whenever you
want to mention somebody in somebody's life, especially someone who's passed,
that's a tough pill to swallow or have to relive
or And maybe he could have still made the point
without going that route. So I'm not saying that that
was the best way that Marcus could have written that
(09:22):
column or whatnot.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
But I still will stand by Marcus.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
That embiid can say, hey, I want to have a
conversation with you. I don't appreciate it. I once had
an incident with Lou Panella when he was the manager
of the Reds where he came out of his office screaming,
calling me every name in a book in front of
everybody in the clubhouse. You know, but he didn't touch me,
you know what I'm saying. And I think there's a
(09:47):
conversation to be had if you're not happy with something.
But never never, ever physical. So I echoed the sentiments
of never physical. But I'll say this, I think, and
he said this, he said the next time. You know,
I'm willing to take whatever consequence comes with it. And
I think two things can be true. And should never
(10:10):
absolutely should never touch a reporter. It's not necessary, it's
not worth it.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
But on the flip side, I think sometimes you as
an individual feel like it's worth it. And like, you know,
like if a fan throws a beer at you, somebody
could say, well, you know, it's come on, it's just
not a fan.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
It's not worth you the player.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
That player may feel like it was worth going in
there smacking a fan. And I'm not saying shit, I
can't get with that, right But listen, I'm not saying you,
but everybody has a thing in their life where they go, Nah,
it's worth it. And when he put his brother in
there with his child, the deceased brother, and I think
(10:47):
it's I think Marcus caught the brunt of everything. I
think Embiad is upset with himself and his body for
giving out on him, that he's always in this injury
prone situation. I think Embid is mad at the fans
because he seems like I've given you all your turning
on me. I think Embiid is mad with the media
for saying these things about them, but he's like, yo,
I give my all, I play out, I play through injuries.
I almost got my face broken twice, Like what more
(11:07):
do you want from me? And Marcus was that final
straw on that Campbell's back that broke it and he
shouldn't attack him. But I think and Bead's mind, I'll
pay the fine one hundred thousand dollars or two games
suspension whatever. It's not to make a point. It's that
you're not gonna talk about my deceased brother. I'm not
saying he should, but I'm saying I think every human
(11:28):
has a thing that they go I'm willing to pay
the fine, the thing suspension for this and we all
have it, you.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Know, whatever it may be, I don't I would never
be physical. I'm just telling you, no matter what you
said to me, really, I'm dead serious, because I don't
think that. Like, like, I've seen guys lose their jobs
doing baseball play by play a physical altercation. They both
lost their jobs in their careers from or at least
(11:55):
hurt themselves and being physical. So I do understand why
there's a breaking point and you might have that conversation
or you might I'm never gonna go and attack you
and come over the table live on.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
YouTube or whatever. I'm just telling you I wouldn't do that.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
But what about the example I gave of, like you know,
and it's not apples to apples because we're talking about
in b situations. But I'm saying, like, you know, if
you're Rob Parker is Ron our test at the time,
this is before he was meta, and you already in
the heated thing and you about it. I'm trying to
be better. Let me go lay down and I'm trying
to be better. I'm trying and a beer comes at you.
Are you that cool? Collect?
Speaker 3 (12:33):
So you're just that individual?
Speaker 4 (12:35):
Because what people never liked the malice at the palace.
What people don't understand when you throw a chair into
the crowd, What if you had a four year old
boy in the head, Like like, I'm dead serious, right, like,
you can never ever cross that barrier no matter what.
I'm dead serious. And I'm talking about now when the
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fan came down on the.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Floor tests and here he.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Ron first, yeah, but but that But but now you're
in my domain, you're in my doing.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
You don't climb up into do you see what I'm saying.
What you're saying, I just like to protect yourself. Now
someone's in the court, running towards running towards.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Me, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Okay, that's a that's something that's human nature to want
to protect yourself, not to go up and incite or
or attack someone who's.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
In there, you know what I mean. Like in another domain,
I think I completely get you.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
I think not I think most people would be with you,
But I do just think there's a certain point when
he kind of crosses the line for people that they
have and so him already going through it self inflicted,
his body's giving out all these things.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
The team's playing bad.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
I think they've only won one game, you feel like
you're you're responsible for it. And then you got this
guy who he mentioned, he said, he said, you're always
doing this, so if you don't have a history of
maybe them going at it. And then you mentioned my
deceased brother and you mentioned my child. I just can
I see that happening. Not the right thing to do.
Philadelphia has to suspend him for whatever it is, a
game or two. Uh, the NBA has to come down
(14:06):
and find him and suspend him, because you can't set
this president of Hey, you don't like what a guy
said about you in an article now and then you
go get the.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
And there you go, and that that's exactly what happens.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Is you gotta be careful with this because if he
gets away with it, you are going to open up
a flood.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Jack Wilson and Draymond looking like yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
And and even when you think about it, just be
honest and think about it.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
And I've done it in the very.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
Seldom and forty years of doing this, have I seen
people get physical with a writer?
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Do you see what I'm saying?
Speaker 4 (14:42):
You might scream on them, threaten him, you can throw
all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
But physically like once that's that's crossing the boy. What
was the guy me and Robins talking about this?
Speaker 1 (14:52):
This was the announcer I forgot his name, Big time
baseball announcer who Deion Sanders threw the whole big water
cooler on Tim, the late Tim mccarr. Yeah, the car
was like real classy Dion when he dumped the water cooler.
But Dion didn't hit him over the head with the
water cooler snow. I don't know, would you rather get
would you rather get pushed one time? Or I'm trying
to do my job. I'm talking about this was not
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in celebration celebration, but.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
I'm talking about banging his head like taking a cooler
and hitting them all Deon on that crazy is what
I'm trying to say.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
You wanted to all right eight seven.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Seven ninety nine on Fox, We definitely want to hear
ye hear from you on this eight seven seven nine
nine six sixty three sixty nine. Was Joe elmb justified
for shoving that reporter and what kind of punishment should
he face from the NBA? Moving forward? We'll continue that
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conversation about Joel Embiid pushing a writer who had some
things to say about uh. The kind of tried to
find a correlation between Embiid's desire to be better, but
also his pat brother who is deceased, and also his
young son who he named after his brother, and there's
(16:51):
when the conflict ensues. He pushes them, how should the
NBA handle it? If at all your thoughts? Eight seven,
seven ninety nine On Fox, we'll talk about it.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Who we asked?
Speaker 4 (17:01):
Uh, let's go with Chili Tim in Atlanta. You're on
the couple a couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
What's up? Tim?
Speaker 6 (17:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (17:08):
What up? What up? Up? What's going on? Hey? Okay,
First of all, let men ask you this. Do you
guys see what happened on game day with Travis Kelsey
and the fan with the phone.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Ke Yeah, we saw that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. People are
wilding out, man, People are willing.
Speaker 7 (17:26):
So that's my point is like sometimes I think, you know,
back in the day, when people you're sitting at Mama's
Basic Babe Spaseman right on blogs, you know, they didn't
come out. But now it's like people are coming out
saying people say a lot of things. And that guy
could have stopped at a point in saying, OK, you
just make your you know, are you living up to
what you're saying you wanted to do? But then he
(17:46):
had to go in and add the next part and
then that made it personal. So like the thing would be.
You can say what you want to say, but then
when you start getting personal and people start feeling like
it's personal. Now, I'm not saying he's just a fact
when he did, but I understand it.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
I just don't.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
There's a conversation. And like I said, I've been doing
this for forty years. People have yelled at me and
not liked what I've written about them. Okay, So I
get that part. Never physical, tim just never physical, and
that is the part that the NBA has to be
careful of.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Yeah, we'll say how to handle it. I think, uh,
it's again one of those things. I think Joel embiid
if you ask him, I think he said he'd do
it again. But also if you're the NBA of the
Philadelphia seventy six ers, however, you.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Gotta be careful too, because you could wind up do
something crazy.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
You could wind up putting the league in a team
also in a trick bag.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
So you know I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
I think I'm just saying if if if they don't
handle it, if they don't handle it.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
They got to because they all got exposed. I think
they're trying to Huh, maybe we can just get married
with this. It got out there too much. One more
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Speaker 7 (18:56):
Going on?
Speaker 3 (18:58):
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Speaker 1 (19:00):
Ton, you better come by Fox Sports Radio down in
New Orleans.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Hold on, MJ.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
You gotta make sure me and Robert trying to gain
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us the best place to eat.
Speaker 6 (19:11):
Oh, no doubt, Professor Rob just s, I'm mena ticket, man,
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Speaker 8 (19:27):
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have a great show. Man, Thank you all.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
I appreciate you. Be listening to you too long tumping
up all these acronyms. Yes, I can't keep up with
all your the load of the goat motete what in
the hoa? The minisode of the goat of loats man,
you better you are the goats of loats and the
acronisms my good. We'll see what the league ends up
doing and if the seventy six or try, you know how,
sometimes you're trying to handle themselves, so it's not as
bad too.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
Yeah, it's I don't know if they can do it
now once us out there. Yeah, because they have to.
And if you're the writers, the Basketball Writers Association, there's
no way of your presidents to be okay with that. Yeah,
you're gonna be okay with that, and you're gonna make
sure that the league does that. And because you don't
want to set a.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
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to see how the league handles this. David Hellman, host
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on Twitter or x David Man, thank you for joining us.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
What's up, David?
Speaker 8 (20:58):
Anytime you all get to be on What's going on?
Speaker 3 (21:00):
No doubt.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
No, we've been having a great conversations all day about football,
and of course with the NFL action that happened this weekend,
you can jump in on this conversation too. We've been
talking about right now, we know the NFL just gives
the MVP to a quarterback pick Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson,
Aaron Rodgers, whoever it is all the time. What do
you think about Derek Henry, who might be sitting here saying,
(21:22):
hey man, I might rush of two thousand, you are
twenty touchdowns. He looks ridiculous right now. Any chance anybody
other than a quarterback, specifically even Lamar Jackson gets it.
Speaker 8 (21:32):
This is really fitting timing because that's actually something we're
talking about on our latest episode of the NFL on
Fox Podcast.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
I felt that, Madam. I felt it tomorrow.
Speaker 8 (21:42):
Yeah, I appreciate that. That's perfect synergy. I think it's
a great question, man, and I do think that is
that's my biggest question about Lamar Jackson's MVP candidacy, because
as good as he was last year, he's blowing all
of his benchmarks from last season out of the water. Yes,
on pace for you know, his first four thousand yard
passing season, his career high in touchdowns, all this good stuff.
(22:05):
But how do you parse out the fact that Derrick
Henry's on pace for two thousand yards and twenty touchdowns
and looks like the runaway offensive player of the year.
I'm going to be curious to see how that goes
because I agree with your premise. I think it's going
to take a lot to take the MVP away from
a quarterback. But you've got this two headed monster in
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Baltimore where, you know, I'm not willing to say that
I think Derek Henry wins MVP, but he's such a
crucial part of taking this Baltimore offense to another level.
And I do wonder if they'll have split votes or
you know, if Derek Henry will attract enough attention that
it hurts Lamar's own MVP candidacy. It's a very interesting
situation to watch, but at the end of the day,
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I'm leaning quarterback though.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
Yeah, and the other thing too, is you just talked
about it. Even Lebar last year didn't have like ie
pop in numbers, and then a couple of years ago
with Derek Henry, he didn't even get one vote. You
remember what was that two years back where he was
having a great year and people were making that push
that maybe it's time for a running back to get
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an MVP. It's been since twenty twelve. This is a
quarterback league. I think it's hard for running back to
win it.
Speaker 8 (23:22):
Here's I mean, what would have to happen is Derrick
Henry has to keep doing this and I think he
will for the record, But if Lamar keeps putting up
these numbers, then I mean it's a completely different conversation.
I think it would take a running back having this
type of season as the pure focal point on his
team and also you know, getting to eleven, twelve, thirteen
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wins on the year. I think it would take all
of that stuff without having a quarterback who's playing equally well.
And look, I think a big part of it is
Derrick Henry. But man, Lamar Jackson is playing incredible football
right now, Like he's playing the best football of his career,
and he's a two time MVP. That's kind of scary
to think about.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Hey, let me ask you about the Cincinnati Bengals. They
won a big game, but their four and five got
off to a really bad start.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Are they still alive?
Speaker 4 (24:15):
Are they still Obviously that's a tough division because the
Steelers are there, the Ravens, Steelers six and two, raven
six and three, Bengals four and five, and then you
got the Browns, you know, bringing up the rear. Where
are the Bengals are there in lux? I mean in flux?
Or are they still alive?
Speaker 3 (24:31):
To you?
Speaker 8 (24:32):
I think they're absolutely alive. I mean when you have
Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase playing the way they are,
And honestly, again, we did a whole episode about MVP candidates,
Joe Burrow would be in the thick of the MVP
race if the Bengals had come out on the right
side of a couple more games. I mean, it's mind
boggling that they lost to New England to open the season,
and even the first time they played Baltimore, Lamar Jackson
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handed Cincinnati that game on a silver platter in overtime
and they couldn't capitalize on it. It's not hard to
imagine a world where Cincinnati is six and three instead
of four and five. My big question for them is
getting their defense pull it together enough to let Joe
and Jamar drag them to the playoffs, because I think
that's what's gonna what it's gonna take. And you know,
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they play in Baltimore on Thursday night. It's a big
opportunity to show that they've grown here over the last
three or four weeks. But I'm gonna need to see
better performance on the defensive side of the ball.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Before I was gonna say that's my issue with the Bengals.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Yeah, I know, Joe has gonna have a couple of
times where he looked at the defenseve hello, are we
trying to win or no? We of course, joined by
David Helpin, host of the NFL on Fox podcast again
David helping underscore on X. I go to a team
and a quarterback that may say, hey, hey, hey, Rob
Kelvin and David, you are just gonna ignore me when
it comes to MVP. But more importantly than anything, he
has his team playing great at seven and two. That
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is Jaden Daniels another good game fifteen to twenty two
two hundred nine yards a couple of touchdowns. Obviously, he
rushes for another thirty five more importantly, gets to win
a divisional wagons and MVP. Are you well, I'm saying,
I'm sure he's thinking, if I keep playing like this
throughout the season.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
He looks great.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
I mean obviously great, pretty much runaway rookie of the year.
But what have you seen from him and just this
Commander's team? How real are they?
Speaker 8 (26:17):
You know, as a very proud, obnoxious lsu Alum, I
was a big believer in Jaden Daniels, but I still
didn't see this level of success coming right away. You know,
I thought Jayden would be good. I thought his dual
threat ability would would buy him some time and help
him settle into the NFL. I I'll be honest, I
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didn't see him being this efficient, this explosive, this confident,
this early in his career. It's been incredible to watch,
and I think it's a valid point. Like when you
put Jaden's numbers up against Lamar and Josh Allen and
Jared Goff, it sounds premature to say that he's an
MVP candidate, but man, the Commanders are seven and two
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for the first time since nineteen ninety six, their offense
is one of the most efficient in the NFL. I mean,
these guys never punned, and even if the raw numbers
aren't quite as impressive, like Jadon Daniels is putting together
a season where if they keep this going, I think
people are going to be banging the drum loudly for
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him to be in that conversation. It's it sounds crazy
because we're just not used to seeing that from rookies.
But I mean, if you tell me that Washington gets
the twelve plus wins and Jayden plays this way down
the entire stretch, he absolutely deserves to be mentioned.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
See here's my issue with this is that if you
have a bad game mixed in with that, you know
what I mean, Like, that's what takes you out a lot.
And Lamar could have a bad game or whatever and
then ridiculous one and then come back with a ridiculous game,
and you're not quick to dismiss him because of his history,
you know what I mean, and his pedigree, And I
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think that's where because I saw that last year, I thought,
and stop me, David, if you think I'm wrong. I
thought the last that Christmas Night game where Baltimore went
to San Francisco, right, And in that game, everybody was
talking about Rock Proty as MVP, and he had a stinker.
And I do believe that it was decided that night.
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Rock Proty had four interceptions, you remember, and Lamar looked
great and they won that game. And I think for
people who don't have that or have won one or
two bad games, takes you out of that conversation.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Is that fair enough?
Speaker 8 (28:33):
No, I think that's totally fair. And look, the dirty
little secret is that the MVP award, for better or
for worse, it goes to a quarterback, and it goes
to the quarterback who typically wins the most games. Like
you're gonna see this award given out to a number
one or number two seed in the playoffs, right, almost always?
And yeah, and with that in mind, it's about how
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you perform in those big window games. Whether it's Monday night,
Sunday night, late on the afternoon, you're gonna play one
or two of those games in front of the entire country,
and for better or for worse, a lot of it's
going to be decided on how you play. And I
think that's a really good point. Jaden doesn't have the
full body of work to fall back, right, So a.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
Bad night, a bad day at the office, will people
will be like, Okay, that's yeah, not yet there.
Speaker 8 (29:23):
Let me let me counter with this though. What if
What if Jaden gets into one of those games and
plays great, and then you've got the groundswell of it
is an incredible story that you know, Washington has good
vibes around it and a winning record for the first
time in so many years. I don't ultimately think this
will happen, but I can picture a world where let's
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say Washington goes twelve and five and Jaden plays incredible
the way he did against Cincinnati, if you know, a
couple of months ago, I can see it.
Speaker 9 (29:53):
That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
He's got some big games, guys. Okay, Steelers coming up,
the Eagles twice. He can really make some noise. U.
Let me ask one last thing here, David. We want
to ask.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
I mean, we already know Saquon Barkley put it on
the Giants when back but two weeks ago, remember that, right,
and and had more more yards than the entire Giants offense.
And then we saw what he did yesterday, But then
we flip over to Daniel Jones when the Giants decided
that that was the guy that wanted to sign and whatnot.
And it's just been a disaster with Daniel Jones. And
(30:25):
I'm not blaming it all on him, But how bad
is this Giants team offensively?
Speaker 8 (30:32):
Yeah, I mean I think we're heading for a full
reset with the Giants offense. And I think, yeah, I
felt that way before the season, and the first eight
nine weeks of the season have only emphasized that for me,
and I am I'm curious to see. You know, John Morow,
the owner of the Giants, already came out and said
he doesn't want to fire Brian Dable and Joe Shane,
which means I assume they're going to oversee how this goes.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
How can you not fight a gl I'm dead serious.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
I mean, remember I we played then the owner m
talking about man, if he goes to Philly, this is
gonna be the worst thing. You know, he's our biggest,
our fans of him the most. Hey, David, thank you
so much. We appreciatiate you.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
My man.
Speaker 8 (31:08):
Yeah, anytime, y'all.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Thanks all right.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
David Helman, host of NFL on Fox Podcast. We can
continue that conversation plus last call about just Sakwon Barkley
is rubbing it in the faces of the Giants organization.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
I mean, I mean I jumping over people. That was ridiculous.
I mean I never saw that where I had his
back to a defense.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
You and I have watched all the Barry Sanders runs,
and I think he's the best running back ever and
maybe the greatest highlight of all time.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
But he ain't even Barry. I ain't never even did that.
That was insane.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
That was the craziest thing, all right, eight seven, seven,
ninety nine on Fox Last Call?
Speaker 1 (31:40):
When to get those last calls in? Jump in on
that will take one for that. Also again, if we
talk a little bit more about what Saquon Barkley's doing.
It is the odd Couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
It's last call time on the Odd Couple. If you
had a take and couldn't get in a whole show,
where's your shit?
Speaker 1 (31:54):
You call your.
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Speaker 1 (32:14):
Man, you talk about a hip hop all time great
beat man Timberland lost his mind when he made this one.
Fox Sports Radio The Odd Couple Kevin Washington, Rob Parker
on a Magic City Monday, Upset Alert, Steve saying, upset alert,
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Speaker 4 (32:30):
I set up the Pistons closed plus nine and they
beat the Lakers by twelve.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Wow, I have to get on you right now.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Look, he's writing out some people mad that they didn't
win by thirteen.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
You know why? Why is that?
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Because then I could have said they beat him by
a Baker's doesn't broam?
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Glad? That's been happy. Yeah, I've never been happier that
they didn't win. The Bakers they throw in an extra
donut in the bat. No, we know what it is.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Somebody talks about it, all right, he's speaking a baker
When you're gonna get us some cheesecake up in here. Man,
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Speaker 3 (33:21):
Right now at the time for last.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
It's last call, last call time on the odd cover.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Hold on this man, either you hold me much longer
out or he just lost his mind the last car
Let me step back, Jameson, let me, let me get
my let me get my cardio together, and I hate
come back.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
I'm gonna challenge him at some point. All right, same
mo in Maryland.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
You're on the odd Couple of Hobo and guess what
you're the last call on the odd Couple.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Yeah, you same o.
Speaker 9 (34:11):
Like three weeks ago. Man, I know the show though, Hey,
bro man me or y'all really think like the Giants
always drafts supid man.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
And well, neighbors is nice. Neighbors is a good pickup.
Y'all got something there?
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Right? Oh?
Speaker 9 (34:30):
People, we always draft super I think we could have
been Daniel job right now to day.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Thanks for the same. I appreciate it. Man, No have
some talent ages, aren't there? Not handling things right?
Speaker 4 (34:45):
I just but but that Daniel Jones thing, that was
the first guest.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Everybody knew that they made a mistake, not right and that,
and then Armstrong reached and the general manager comes out, well,
you know, with his charts and telling everybody, well, you
know what y'all at age twenty.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
Seven, they start to deteriorate and go the other way.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Really, if the Eagles key winning, he's in the MVP
candidate conversation, it's not about winning. And my point is
that's how good he's been. This is the guy that, yeah, listen, man,
are running backs as expendable or you know.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
You can get it him running?
Speaker 1 (35:19):
When you see something exceptional, rob you know what I mean?
Like like, yes, quarterbacks mean more, duh, we know that.
But when you see a Derrick Henry, a healthy Christian McCaffrey,
a Saquon Barkley, Uh, what's my man in the colts
right now?
Speaker 3 (35:34):
Jonathan Taylor?
Speaker 1 (35:35):
When you get a few you know, five six seven
backs where you're like, all right, he's different, then you
hold on to that because again you got some guaranteed
for a few years, especially if your quarterbacks Daniel Jones. Now,
if I got to make a decision between Patrick Mahomes
and Lamar Jackson or somebody, Okay, that's a different conversation.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
But Daniel Jones and.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Saquan what the reason Daniel Jones was even halfway I
that season was because of.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Who s quon?
Speaker 4 (35:59):
And no, forget even that year he had fifteen touchdowns
in seventeen games. He didn't blow it away, rob g
what do he beat Minnesota in the playoffs and they
had like the worst defense in the league that it
wasn't again like he was bawling out.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
So yeah, I think, man, sometimes you can outthink yourself,
you know what I mean. You can just try to
be too smart. You trying to be the smartest guy.
I didn't get that. I thought that was ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
And they didn't want to pay Sakuan and then they're
gonna be mad, like Tiki Barber was mad at him
for going to Philly.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
Mad y'all don't want to and it's a disrespect, Like
it's not like we had this grazing six seven, eight
year run and with just you know, I don't even
want to leave. But it's just the way it is
right now, did I get him?
Speaker 6 (36:39):
Like?
Speaker 3 (36:39):
Man, why'd you go to the enemy? Man?
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Y'all want me and y'all want him. Man, I'm out
who want who wants me? In Philadelphia? Look at them
now six and two. They're righting the ship by the way,
getting things going. Nick Sirianni, I don't know. He's still
a little nervous. He's making some man.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
He is thake. He has got the Dan campbellitis right now.
He is man.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
He's making some terrible decisions out there. Man, going for
it fourth and going forward, not kicking field goals and
going for a two point conversions.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
He is making Dan Campbell look like a genius. He's
already set itself up.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
If they have a bad play three weeks playoff, he'll
be He'll be five.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
He knows he's set up. He can he knows. You
can sense by his reactions every time he does something.
Remember his reaction arguing with the crowd, maybe I need
to rethink something. And then now the bad decisions. He
made this call and almost lost in the game. They
were up twenty two to nothing. They had a nerve
to lose this game. If they don't throw an interception,
which just happen. Did you just see the stat they
just put up? The Chiefs have been held scoreless three
(37:34):
straight third quarters in a row, like like the game
is twenty one. Patrick Mahomes rolling around his grave, right,
And I know Travis Kelsey fumbled one more time.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
He got he got it, he kept it for those games.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Trash talking Tuesday tomorrow, I've been trash talking whatever.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Tomorrow it
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