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BJ. You've been sitting there, living and dying with every
snap of the Dolphins Falcons preseason game on your iPad
because the NFL overlords that b won't let us just
watch all of them on television, right, you gotta go ahead, Hey,
NFL plus, ID pay at fifteen dollars if you want
to see. But you know these are basically I mean,
(01:29):
I know you keep saying, and I don't mean to
offend your sensibilities, but these are not the football games
that we are used to seeing generally speaking, when we
talk about the football, right, you know, we're looking at backups.
Maybe how many of these guys are gonna make the Rocks. Yeah,
there's what eighty five guys on the team right now,
so little under half will no longer be on set
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team when it's all said and done. We're well familiar
with the concept and prospect of cutting players after watching
years and years of hard knocks, watching this guy on
that last episode when the music, and that's when you
find out if your fan favorite keeps the playbook or
gets the trash bag right. But what it is sometimes
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though the preseason, while at dress rehearsal, it can sometimes
be an audition. And I think we're watching one right
here right now, with about three minutes left in a
two minutes left in the third quarter, as the use
of Texas take on the Pittsburgh Steelers, and that is
the audition of one player who wears.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
Number one justin field or he used to wear number
one rather justin field, and then I'm pulling for him.
I think he should be the starter in this situation,
if you got him there. I just think Russell Wilson
has just passed his time. And I said that two
years ago when Denver made the move to go get him.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
But not a bad day.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
But as as Rob came in here, Rob g came
in doing one of the commercial braces and that he's
just either up here or he's down there.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
And it's very true. He's either up here or he's
down here.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
I think being in Pittsburgh, they have such a great
culture and a great coaching staff. If there's anybody who
I think can really reel this kid in and work
with him and turn it into the starter that I
believe he still can be.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
I think it is right there. Let's hear what in Pittsburgh.
Let's hear what he did tonight justin fields.
Speaker 6 (03:19):
Very efficient five of six for sixty seven yards eleven
point two yards per ten, which is great passer rating
of one thirteen. He also was sacked twice and fumble twice.
Just bottling the snap. It wasn't a bad snap, Just
drop the snap.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
And he's just got to get used to that too, Robberg,
because he's a guy that you know, when he's at Ohio,
the state is RPO. Everything is so spread. Then nowadays,
it's really hard for you know, to bring a guy
into the NFL from college who's been taking snaps from
underneath the center all through college. You just don't see it.
That's no excuse for him. So you gotta you guys
been in the NFL for a ti so years now, absolutely,
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And guess what in Chicago they ran a lot of
a shotgun RPO then, cause you're you're told to fit
your your system around your your quarterback, right, you do
what he does well at But Pittsburgh is a power
running team, right you ha, Naja Harris. You got some
other guys there run the football and it's there. It's
their culture, it's their history. You think about the Steelers
for the last forty fifty years, right yeah, Franko Harris,
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And then it goes there. If you guys remember Barry
Word who was a top rusher in his time, going
battling emittt Smith and Barry Sanders in the nineties, and
then you had the bus Jerome Bettis, and then you
had Le'Veon Bell.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
I'm missing somebody, didn't look?
Speaker 5 (04:33):
Didn't look Garrett Blunt go there and run and run
well for seon or for a moment there. So they
they want to run the football and be more physical.
The best way to do that, in my opinion in
football is to get underneath to send RPO. When I
watch teams run out of the RPO, I'm like, God,
you you don't understand the advantage you're giving the defense.
You really don't. You don't get the advantage you're giving
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them by running everything from the RPO position. So I'm
pulling for him. I think it's, you know, a decent night,
but it is an audition. Now he's been taking most
of the first team reps because Russ had the calf?
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Was it he Russ had the Do you know how
he hurt his calf? No, because I don't care, But
go ahead. You have to be as smart as But yeah,
But so Mike, the fabo we had on uh, what
was it Wednesday?
Speaker 3 (05:15):
It was Wednesday on the couple right as I was
feeling in for Rob Pittsburgh. He was beat writer for
the athletic He says they were pushing a tackling slid.
The conditioning coaches had Russell Wilson pushing a tackling slid,
and that's how he hurt his calf. Now, I don't
know about that.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
No, that's what I mean.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
That's no, no, no, no, no, I don't know about having
Russell Wilson.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
I was about to ask you, when's the last time
he saw Russell Wilson on the lead block.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
Oh uh ever, no, no, no, Russell Wilson need to
push the tackling slip. Well, now, hold on, now, this
is also the same franchise that leaked that Justin Fields
could possibly return.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Kick You're right, okay, I was Jalen Warren on a podcast.
I think that's a little different.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
Well, hey, listen, somebody said it to him and I
said that on our show.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Something he didn't just go. He also just might have
been talking after that.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
Well, true, that happens with a lot of these these
uh these guys careful with the podcast, But you know
it was out there. Even if you're a teammate, Why
would you say that, Why would you say that that
Justin Fields could return? Anybody thinking to put Mike Vick
back at kick return or or a Randall Cunningham at
punt return. No, like, that's not even something you say.
(06:30):
But I thought a decent audition tonight. He is auditioning.
In my opinion, this is not a four gone conclusion
that this is Russell Wilson's starting quarterback job. I think
that this is a legit audition, and I think that
whoever is good if they think can take them into
this season.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
They're in a tough division. They're in a super tough division.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
You're talking three teams that could possibly all make the playoffs. Right,
there's three teams out of this division that can You
got the Ravens, you got the Bagos. Joe Burrow's back,
and he got Cleveland. They get Deshaun back, and they
were in the playoffs last year without Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
So tough division. They got to figure it out.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
I was surprised to see him getting as much burn
as he was until it's like, oh no, he thought. No,
the thought set in, Oh no, they gotta see they
gotta get him out there.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
You can't.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
Why would you play the third guy because Russell's not
gonna play to night, So you're not gonna play the
third guy till later, so you might as well play
the guy that's been getting the one reps, and that's
been Justin Phil.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
So I'm happy with it.
Speaker 6 (07:28):
I got a question for you guys, because obviously you're
both pulling for Justin Field to get the starting job
there in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 7 (07:33):
Yes.
Speaker 6 (07:34):
Our Fox Sports Radio Weekend teammate Karma Vitali said today
on First Things First that with Justin Fields in Chicago,
the issue there was there was no structure around him.
It was an unstable franchise, a lot of chaos. I mean,
he had to navigate through a really tough situation. Pittsburgh
is the exact opposite of that, very structured. They've been
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doing things along the same way for a long time
and it's worked out well for them. But what Carmen said,
and this I want to get your thoughts on, is
the fact that they're so structured is actually what could
end up being Justin Fields undoing because, as you have mentioned, VJ,
something as simple as taking the snap under center he
fumbles it twice. Is that the kind of thing that
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because Pittsburgh is straightforward meating potatoes, we don't need all
the flash and sizzle.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
We just want to play Steeler football.
Speaker 6 (08:26):
Could that actually worked against Justin fields because he has
all the highlight stuff. What he can't do is get
the ball under center, get the snap, complete a seven
yard out route and not throw an interception.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
No, I don't buy that. I don't buy that.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
I think like the centers quarterback exchange obviously the most
important exchange in football. This is game one, preseason one,
and they've been working in russ with the ones as well.
Don't and who knows is this even the starting You
know what I'm saying. So that doesn't concern me right now.
It's something to file away. But if we keep seeing it,
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then it could becomes concerning.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
I don't think. I think it only helps Justin.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
I think it only helps Justin because if you can
simplify a lot of stuff, like you know, drop back,
three step, drop throw it there. If it's not there,
then figures then go like in that structure that Pittsburgh
already has, it's not gonna be.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
He's had how many different offensive.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Coordinators in Chicago, how many different stories of his coaching
getting coaches getting fired or remember eber Flus. I know
now he's got the best odds to win Coach of
the Year, but he was on the hot seat for
the first what six seven weeks of the season until
until he took over the defense and that defense really
turned around. So no, I don't think that there's too
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much structure can hurt a guy who makes of his
most highlight moments out of structure, because if he can
master the structure, he's not gonna forget how to like
bootleg and run out. He's not gonna forget how to
run him with the ball under his arm. So if
he can figure that out, then that'll to me, it
can only elevate his game.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
I went Martin on that and the reason why, all right,
I'll add to this too, they've had guys out of
structure before Big Ben makes things happen. I'll take it
back to the nineties and introduce you all to a
quarterback from the University of Colorado by the name of
Cordell Stewart that was so out of structure that they
nicknamed him Slash because they just didn't know what he
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could do so many different things. And you know, Bill
Kyle said, listen, we're just gonna We're just gonna go
We we have. Let's go to Colin Kaepernick with Harball
and San Francisco structure, right, get it to the tight
end Verdidad turn in hand to Frank Gore. But when
it's time to make something happen, I'm gonna I don't.
I don't forget that part of it. The structure is
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what's going to help the other aspects of his game
that he may not have had or people don't think
that they have. I think this is the perfect situation
for him, and said it when he got traded here.
This works out just fine if he can grabs what
they need him to do. As my partner to the
right always says on our show on Saturdays, Mar's favorite
being what a quarterback does is do what your head
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coach or offensive coordinator asks you to do. So if
they ask him to do this and he can do it,
like he's like Martin said, he's not gonna forget how
to turn into justin fields when it comes time for
justin field. So agree with her on as far as
the structure of helping him, but definitely not being a
detrimental his growth.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Yeah, I mean, if he can sit there and you know,
just figure out the first second third read, which was
part of his problem in Chicago. But if again we're
dealing with an organization here who last year despite I mean,
how many games had it been since somebody threw for
three hundred yards for Pittsburgh. It had been like a
calendar year, you know what I'm saying. If it had
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been so long and he kept going with Matt Canada
and he kept going with Kenny Pickett, this is an
organization that shows if they name you the guy, they're.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
Gonna give you every opportunity to not be it right.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
And Kenny picking at them showing every opportunity that he
wasn't right. So I think if Justin Fields can figure
out how to maneuver that the extra stuff that he
does bring to the table as one of the most
dynamic runners with the football in his hands, that's a
reason why nobody was like, that's a bad The only
reason why it was a bad idea with Jaylen Warrens
that Justin Fields could be back then returning point is
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because he also could play quarterback, but in terms of
speed and ability, he'd be pretty good at it if
they gave him a shot.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
And also to rob fan base, that's Chicago fan base.
Like you said, all the off the field stuff, coach
getting fired out, that's Chicago fan base. This Pittsburgh fan
base they were patient with Picket like this is. They've won, right,
so they're not in a rush to run a guy
out of the door. This fan base, I think, will
embrace him and when he makes mistakes, they're not gonna
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try to run him out of town like in Chicago,
where they ain't one nothing in so long. They need somebody.
That's why people are picking Caleb to go to the playoffs.
The should It's a it's a feeling that they want.
I think the Steelers fan base are like, yeah, we're rabbit,
terrible towbos. We travel better than anybody else in the
NFL other than the Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
But this is our guy.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
We're We're okay, We're not going to hit the panic
button all right quickly.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
You know.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Both Again, very optimistic about Justin Fields.
Speaker 6 (13:07):
Some raw numbers that are not going to help your
case whatsoever. Through week seventeen, before player started getting rested,
Justin Fields was last in the NFL in fourth quarter
completetion percentage fifty one percent, twenty fifth in yards per attempt,
tied for twenty ninth fourth quarter interceptions thirtieth in QBR.
Since joining the league's in twenty twenty one, Fields is
last among quarterbacks with fourth quarter interceptions sixteen thirty six
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and completetion percentage thirty third in QBR and thirty eight
career starts. Fields has her pass two hundred and twenty
five yards six times. Eighteen NFL starters last year averaged
at least two undred and thirty passing yards Chicago. Everything
that you need him to do was to throw the football.
He has not shown his ability to do that at
all at the pro level.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
You know what he was still doing week seventeen though
starting yep, not completely passes.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
That's what he was doing. Shoan Payton. Payton tell Russell
Wilson to kick rocks. That's true that point. You know
what I'm saying. Think about it.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
He paid almost one hundred million dollars and dead cap
space to tell them, Hey, Russ, thanks for the memories.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
When you get paid to go away, that's a song,
That's what I'm saying. That's a song. When you get
paid to go away.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
That's just if guy gets divorced and he's like, listen here,
take half the house, take half the alimone. Here's your alimony,
here's your spousal support, here's a child support. Here's forty
percent on my four one K and half of my pension.
Bye bye, You probably weren't the wife you thought you were.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
You know, just say, just saying.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
The Steelers traded a sixth round pick that could eventually
be a fourth thronged pick. So let's just say fourth
to sixth round pick for Justin Fields.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
What the trade for us?
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (14:38):
That's right, that's right. Yeah, because he was a free
agent and.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Every literally every team in the NFL had the ability
to sign him, and the Steelers are paying him less
than the Lions are paying handed freaking Hooker to pay
their start.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
Got a concussion, he did.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Yeah, But I'm just saying, but like he hedn't you
know what he's doing right now making more money than.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
Than Russell Wilson.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
This from the Steelers, now Russell Wilson's check at the
end of the day, it's gonna be nice.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
But that's all coming from the Denver Broncos. I think
Justin Phils wins this job, bro, I really do. I
think Justin Phil's Week one is the start of here,
and I think that's the smart route to go.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
I think he's gonna win it in camp Oh yeah.
But but but week one, that's why he be the starter.
Speaker 6 (15:20):
I mean, because all of the reporting has been that
it's still Russell Wilson is the guy.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
I think that's to make sure this kid keeps working.
And I think it's a mind game. It's not only that,
it's also why make a story on August night?
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Then we don't have Absolutely, we don't have to make
a story August nice because.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
It makes our jobs easier. That's why.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
But not only right though, but they're the Steelers. They
don't do that. They don't do that.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
But speaking of who's going to be the start of
week one, will this guy even be a backup?
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Highly drafted? Is he gonna know what? I'm just reading
the new. I'm just reading the new, reading the news.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
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(17:02):
JJ McCarthy makes the jump JJ from the University of
Michigan to Minnesota.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
My guy, Now I know it's hard press.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
The only bigger fan of JJ McCarthy that exists on
the planet is Jim Harbaugh and JJ's mother. Yeah, then, VJ, congratulations,
you get the bronze medal.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
There, No, I get third, four, fifth, and sixth. That's
my guy. Softeen n O National champions?
Speaker 3 (17:28):
My god, what did you make of the reports that
came out the other day. I came out earlier today
that JJ McCarthy has quote certain benchmarks to meet in
order to keep the QB two job.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
Okay, So I'm I'm gonna take the fan out of
it and be a real radio analyst.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Right now, I get it, and I don't mind it.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
We just said this about Justin Fields, right we just
he's gonna we think he's gonna be the starter there.
But once again, why make a story on August the
ninth and it's the first night and we only got
three preseason games.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
Make these kids, he's a he's still a.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
Young man, rookie. Don't give him nothing. Make him work
and make hid earn it. I'm coaching now. There are
kids I've watched, and I go, okay, I already know
who I want to play my X receiver. I already
know who to play my wide receiver.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
You know who.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
I haven't told the two kids that I want to
play my X and YE receiver because I want them
to keep working until we really get up until what
we got.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
To announce our starters.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
In my head, I'm already watching the coaches and I
we're already whispering to each other in practice.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
Yet this kid's probably going to be to this or
this kids, right.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
But you don't tell them that right away because you
want them to keep working. If you hand it to
them now and we haven't even scrimmaged yet, then what
do you think we're gonna have when it comes to
kick off our first Friday night kickoff game? And this
kid thinks he's the junk already?
Speaker 4 (18:48):
No counterpoint.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
How many of your starting X and I know you
haven't told them they're starting. Have you told them that
they may not even be the second straight Oh dude,
I've told them they might not make the team.
Speaker 7 (18:59):
All right.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
This is a little beause you talk about high school fotball.
Jay McCarthy's going to make He's gonna make the team.
But point remains, like I hear you and that you
don't want to just pencil a little starter day one.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
But there's a big.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Gap between penciling and starter day one and even what's
happening in Pittsburgh right now to saying that JJ might
not even QB two.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
There's a big gap time I listen, I think in
this story too. I once again I get it. I
want him to keep working, want him to earn it.
If Sam Donald is starting, if Sam Donald is starting
over JJ McCarthy come week one, I don't know what
I'll do. I want eat a piece of paper like markin.
But I'll do something dumb or to the extreme. I'll
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let the fans pick it. Hey, if he doesn't start,
vj's gotta do this and record it and put it
on the social media. I'll do something stupid, ridiculous. I
just think this is smart right now. I don't think
he may not be ready right now, but we have
another full month of reps, preseason practicing, we have another
full month of film study, you know, getting in sync
(19:59):
with everybody now. And I'm gonna be a little bit
of a JJ homer here. If he isn't even locked
in to QB two, then where are all the clips?
Are all these so called bad plays and bad throws,
Because mostly of what I'm seeing that's being put out
is he's dropping dimes with the first and the second
mostly second offense, and his teammates are speaking up for
(20:21):
his coaching stafford speaking highly on I just think this
is one of those things that listen, we ain't gonna
give it to him right away. He still has some
benchmarks he needs to meet. But you know what, I'm
not worried about. JJ's the kind of kid. You have
a degree from the school, you watched every game with
me the last two years, sitting here on Saturday's doing
our radio show. You know, if there's a young kid
that'll go get it, Martin and you put him in
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front of him. He's one of the rookies that'll go
get it if you put it in front of him.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
So I'm not worried about this. I actually like it.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
Once again, make the kid go earn it, man set
some benchmarks for him. I have zero issue with this
at all. I still say I believe Justin Fields is
gonna be starting day one, and I believe JJ McCarthy
will be to Minnesota Vikings starting quarterback come week one.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Well, if you believe that, VJ, then I will tell
you you should go ahead and invest, because right now,
if you have one hundred dollars, you can turn me
into about six hundred and fifty dollars. Right now, Sam
Darnold is the it at DraftKings is minus nine hundred
to start week one JJ six to one.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
Oh okay, so plus it O come. I might go
put some bread on that. Thank you for that? No, no,
thank you, because you know I'm coming up. I'm doing
my bets in my list of stuff.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Thank you for that. When I might go put some
bread on that one. You're very well. That's an early
season payoff right there.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
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of this team.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
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Speaker 7 (22:06):
I'm good, guys. How you guys doing doing well? Dan?
Speaker 4 (22:09):
Well and doing well?
Speaker 7 (22:10):
Awesome? Awesome?
Speaker 3 (22:12):
When you were watching the Team USA Serbia game at
what point, if at all, did you feel like Jason
Tatum needed to be in the game to have an
impact on what was going on.
Speaker 7 (22:22):
I mean, at any point in time when they were
down eleven, when they went down thirteen, fifteen, seventeen, any
one of those points, he could have put him in there.
So there's something else going on there. I've been like
trying to dig in to see because you know, Steve
came out with the you know, saying I'm an idiot
quote unquote, but you know, okay, maybe you are. Maybe
(22:42):
that was sarcasm, I don't know, but now this guy
not playing at all again, it's showing that you are idiot.
Regardless of whether we wow not. It's just the fact
that that's total disrespect. This is the Olympics, Okay, this
is our twelve supposedly our twelve best I don't know
about Derek White, but again, you know, let's say, for
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an argument's sake, it's our twelve best players. Okay, that
man's got to play. Come on, that's ridiculous right now,
what you're doing, that's total disrespect.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
I feel you on the Derek White thing. But I
floated this by VJ earlier and he didn't really pick
up on it. So I'm gonna pass it by U.
See if you if you bite on it real quick.
I feel like Derek White is the only one outside
of the three amigos Lebron, Stephen kd Derek White is
definitely gonna play, in part because of all the noise
that Dalen Brown made when he was added on as
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an addition to the team.
Speaker 7 (23:35):
Well that was ridiculous in itself, but Derek White no
way on God's Queen or Derek White plays more minutes
than Jason Taytum right at any point. I don't care.
So Olympics, World Chimps, I don't care what it is.
That's what I'm saying. This is absurd right now. Okay,
So to me, it's like this, it's comparable. Let's go back.
(23:58):
You know, we can pick any the Dream Redeemed team,
anyone of Okay, that's like one of those guys like
you know, PM alone all of a sudden can't get
on the floor. I'm not saying Jason TAM's calm alone,
but it's it's kind of like equivalent to that because
it's it's some most absurd thing. The man just came
off winning a championship. He's all NBA. I've never seen
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an all NBA player get benched.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
Hold them poling these vj here man, follow your work.
I know you're at the network. Great talking to your
first time talking to you, and I'm I'm the kind
of guy olding that I love talking to former players
because you guys can actually really paint the picture and
put the fan Like, if you want to know about
the game, or you want to know about a guy,
asks the people that competed with him and competed against
him if you want a real answer. So I asked
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you this about Tanner's mentality right now, you're Jason Tatum.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
Has this been just an utter mistake? You even going?
Are you? Are you?
Speaker 7 (24:56):
Are?
Speaker 4 (24:56):
You?
Speaker 7 (24:56):
Are?
Speaker 2 (24:56):
You?
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Pissed off to the highest levels right now?
Speaker 5 (24:59):
I know he's playing being professional, but just mentally as
a player, where do you think he's probably sitting with
this gold medal game tomorrow on the brink against France.
Speaker 7 (25:08):
Listen, I'm gonna say this, and I mean no disrespair,
but I have to say it because this is who
I am. I keep everything one hundred. Jason Tatum got
real corny after they won the championship. Wow, he copied
so many people, uh, you know, and I think that
put a lot of people off because he was not
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original at any point in time. And so to me,
that started the spiraling of his playing time and everything
else because he was already on the team. But I
believe that that had something to do with it. That's
what I'm saying. I got, I got to dig deeper
and get, you know, to my sources. But there's something
else going on outside of basketball. Maybe he sided with
(25:53):
Jailen Brown. Who knows, But there's something going on that
doesn't smell right because none of this has to do
with basketball, because if it did have to do with basketball,
Jason Tatum will be playing.
Speaker 5 (26:06):
It just doesn't make sense, right. Oh, It's just it's
just it makes zero sense.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Got you Olden Polonies here, Fox Sports Radio, NBA analysts
and former NBA vet Olden, Let's move to the basketball
of everything. Can't tell you if Jason Tatum's gonna play
or not in the gold medal game.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
But I know, like you.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Said, Lebron Steph KD, that group will be out there.
Would you see any problem that France could give Besides
I mean, obviously there's one seven foot five guy who
plays for San Antonio that might be a problem. But
do you expect any issue for tm USA and the
gold medal game?
Speaker 7 (26:41):
You know what. The only way I'm seeing issues because
they had a home country and the Whistles might not
blow a certain way.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Honestly, I thought. I've thought about that in the last
couple of days. Can't lie.
Speaker 7 (26:53):
So that's because Japan beat them boys and got robbed.
I've seen it happen with the Whistles, you know, involving France.
But you know, everything being equal, I just don't believe,
you know, they can beat they can beat them, you know.
And it's funny because we were just talking about Jayson
tim like a guy like Rudy gober All defensive player,
(27:15):
he gets sense, but I can see it more with
him because of match of us. That's not the case,
you know, with Tatum. So I just wanted to, you know,
as an aside, bring that up. But I think Gobet
is gonna play because you know, he's I mean, he's
an NBA player, so he's familiar with these NBA guys,
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and I think and we are with him, you know,
I got a little the team that I thought would
give them the most problems with Serbia, and they got
through them. And you know, so now they should win
it with again with the whistles being equal, the US
should win.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (27:53):
Then there's another gentleman on the team that didn't get
a lot of playing time in game two after Steve
Kerr self proclaimed himself to the idiot, and that's Joel Embiiden.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
Then he makes a comment about possibly.
Speaker 5 (28:04):
Playing for Cameroon now while his team is still playing
for the United States of America with a gold medal
game tomorrow as a former player, Odin, you're on this
team and you hear that, you say, and do.
Speaker 7 (28:17):
What Well, it's the Olympics. You know, I played for
the US national team, so I play with them. You know, guys,
you know, people have agendas. But it's different now today
as it was back you know, in the eighties and nineties.
You know these guys. Now everything is pretty much based
on my you know, my contract, my shoe deal.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
You know, michaelmercials, their brand, their brand.
Speaker 7 (28:43):
Their brand basically, yeah, thank you, their brand, So everything
is geared around that. So they're not gonna say too much.
But I'm sure guys are like, whoa wait a minute now,
I mean you're playing for the US now all of
a sudden. I mean we're not even done yet. Yeah,
you always talk about maroon and so to me, that's
a little that's a little whack, you know. But you know,
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nothing's going to happen with it because we've allowed these
guys to be themselves, to be open to you know,
say whatever they want to say. And it's okay. I
mean that's the generation we're in right now.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
Now.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Oh, they're talking about guys saying whatever they want to
say real quick. About a minute on this one, Draymond
Green before last game, was talking about how Steve Kerr
has terrible rotations. In the midst of this game, like
every other American not named VJ. Husky, Draymond was sweating
out what was going to happen and then tweet it
out at the end.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Yeah, see what happened when you scraped the rotations.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
What do you make of Draymond, you know, using his
side job with the social media and podcasting to criticize
his boss at his day job.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
Who is Steve Kirk.
Speaker 7 (29:51):
Well, first of all, he's not his boss. He's a coach,
all right.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
His coach good point, all.
Speaker 7 (29:55):
Right, and so they don't look at none of these
guys as well as they look at him as equals.
And so but again that's been a criticism. Listen. I
said this before and I'll say it again. My daughter
at the time when they won they first satured in
twenty fifteen, nine years ago. My daughter at the time
was thirteen, could have won that championship.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
Wow, okay, Wow, it is goodness.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Bro.
Speaker 7 (30:23):
I'm just letting y'all know. Point Black, I don't give
it that I'm tired of this. Okay, guys are getting jobs.
Guys are, you know, coaching the Olympics. Not because they
good coaches, It's because it's the name. It's like the relationships.
I mean, you got coaches on that team they don't win.
I mean ky Lue for whatever reason, there is a
(30:43):
good coach and all that stuff, but he doesn't know
x's and o's and so to me, it's a lot
of that going on. And so that's what I'm saying.
It's like Draymond has a point. I mean, Steve Curry's
rotations are whack, you know, and there's a lot of
things that go on, but you know, no one's willing
to criticize these guys because we popped them up and
(31:05):
put them on pedal sos. No, if you mess up,
you mess up.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Well we've down it old and we found two people
willing to criticize that, Jason Tatum's mom and Draymond Green
and I got three now old day, don't tell.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
Old and that three old and qualities old.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Thanks for coming on the show, my friend, all right,
appreciate it. Bleat weekend brother, Sorry, yes, sorry you too? Now, uh, VJ,
you weren't necessarily doing this while Team USA was playing.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
You weren't necessarily turning Trader. Let's get into that. Coming
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Speaker 4 (32:14):
That's how we do it on Saturdays, Rob, I've never
heard that before. That was great.
Speaker 5 (32:17):
That's our read on Saturdays. But Mark, lately they throw
in a VJ. Do it like such as are doing
I have to on the fly, do it like you
know whatever he described. Here's an example, like Torell lowans
about his quarterback shortly after.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
The show hour.
Speaker 9 (32:32):
It's my podcast man, and you know, go on like
the best one with Shack, the best one, the best
one I went.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
I ran through it. Okay, yeah, yeah, Kobe podcast.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
I tried to do Inside the the crew of the
Inside the NBA when the Amazon rights, you know, when
it was, you know, essentially now one year left and
VJ is like, no, I'm just gonna do Shack day.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
Earnie a break. He's good, I do. Can you'd give
it Covino a run for his money?
Speaker 6 (33:02):
I thought he was the improditioning guy.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
Maybe we should do that one on tomorrow. Do it
like Compino and Rich.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
There you go, Scott, I'll be I'm sorry, not Scott, Scott.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
We are we are the same height. That's true.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
I feel like when you're coming from down there, you
can say, geez, explain to me how the most prolific
Olympics scorer in NBA history was dunk a history with
dunking on people on the timeline.
Speaker 6 (33:33):
Oh kd had time today and it was at five
am local times. I don't know if he was hadn't
gone to bed or just woken up, But I don't know.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
If you noticed.
Speaker 6 (33:40):
During the Serbia USA game, there was a lot of
ground swell on social media, particularly from Nuggets fans that
were actually rooting for Serbia. They're rooting for the guy,
Nikola Jokic. And it all started with one particular Nuggets
fan saying that the whole country of Serbia should be
proud of their performance.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
Where are you from? Question mark? Question mark?
Speaker 6 (34:02):
And that's smarted a whole line of question eve from
a lot of different fans. Finally, Katie had enough and
he puts out a lengthier tweet that reads like this
to all you Nuggets fans, nobody gives it f who
y'all Lames believe is the best player in the league.
Players got major respect for Yo Kisch. We don't worship
him like y'all do, but most are in all of
(34:23):
his brilliance. Just trolling you cornballs for rooting against us
is part of the game.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
Just deal with it. M hm DJ, Yeah that's Jay.
I listen.
Speaker 5 (34:34):
I love durmp. Hey, dude, d m v PG County.
I just at some point, durm let it go. I
don't have a problem with this because I get it
the minute. It was mad at Nugget fans. Yeah, their
best their player that's won them a championship, plays on
this team. I will flip it you and I Mariy
moved to China and their best player is an American
(34:57):
for the Shanghai Sharks. So but in the Olympics when
they come to play USA, we're over in China, we
go for either whether it's Usually or the Shane High Sharks,
because our favorite player that's here that's American plays for
the China team. I just to me, it didn't I
get why a Nugget fan would be pulling for jo
(35:18):
kiicch especially when Lebron and Steph and Durant three other
Western Conference guys are on the other teams.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
It was nothing to me. This was crazy.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
I mean, I guess I'm the only one here that's
proud to be a red blood of a marri god
and was.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
Rooting for Team USA.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
I was root for like I mean, no, I was
sitting on the edge of my sheet, clapping my hands.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
You thought they might get us stop, get us stop.
I was losing my mind over that game.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
You would have thought, exactly, that's exactly what.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
I want to hear.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
At a time in which we're divided, politically, divided in
what we believe in.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
You know, we could get behind Team USA.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
Except I guess if you're a Denver Nugget fan, you sellouts,
You Betaedic Donald's, you traders.
Speaker 5 (36:04):
Now let me throw this out there because I asked
the question last week.
Speaker 4 (36:07):
Martin was off on vacation.
Speaker 5 (36:08):
I was on with Arnie Spairol Martin VJ, and I asked,
I felt this from the women's side of the team,
because it feels like, because this Kaitlyn Clark d keeps
coming up, there's a contingency of people that wants to
see the women's team kind of struggle or maybe loose
so they could say, see, you should have put I
didn't see this coming.
Speaker 4 (36:27):
Know what they are then? Yeah? Exactly coward, Yeah better
dic darnal, Yeah, jealous, Balley some shirt. I can't do it.
Speaker 7 (36:36):
No.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
I normally say go blue. Now I say go right,
white and blue. Speaking of the vision site, say what
horn is this closed?
Speaker 6 (36:47):
To bite himself of four f one fifty and joining
the NRA, Yeah, he's right there.
Speaker 5 (36:52):
Speaking the division man, Our country is so divide. I
saw a video two cares arguing over a little girl's
lemonade stand. I said, good, gracious, I'm out. You know
what they I'm out from Serbia.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
That's what they were doing better than I hear any
you San Antonio Spurs fans talking about, Oh it's Whimby's
up next.
Speaker 9 (37:11):
Hell no, I'm gonna see it tomorrow though. A golden medal, baby,
that's what we're here for. The biggest and the baddest,
the best.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
They're also over there, they're the rest, Go red, white
and blue.
Speaker 5 (37:23):
How much does USA win by tomorrow? Call it now thirteen.
I think this is a laugher. I think they are
locked in steph coming off that game. This is a laugher.
This isn't close. Give me USA by twenty plus. They
blow this thing open. Tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
I think it'll be a thirteen point game.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
One that kind of feels a little bit closer in
the third quarter, maybe like seven minutes left in the fourth,
But they step on the gas, just like me and
VJ are about to step.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
On the gas and get up out of here. My
bless everybody in this weekend. Next, keep it locked.